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Today I'm at Margam Country Park, near Port Talbot.

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Now, over the years, this castle and its magnificent grounds

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have required an army of staff to keep it running,

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from housekeepers to maids, gardeners to butlers.

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But one of them met a very grisly end

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and he's said to haunt this place.

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More about that later. Welcome to "Flog It!".

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Creating this impressive estate has taken centuries of hard graft.

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The Victorian Gothic revival castle took ten years to build

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from locally sourced materials, and was home to CRM Talbot,

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a wealthy landowner and industrialist.

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The impressive Georgian orangery is the longest in Britain and was

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carefully crafted by specialist artisans.

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Behind that lie the remains of a Cistercian abbey

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founded in 1147.

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The monks were pioneers of coal mining and the wool trade in Wales.

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So this place has been a hive of activity for centuries.

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And today is no exception.

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Well, the crowds have already started to gather here,

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hundreds of them, laden with antiques and collectibles.

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Who knows what's hidden in these bags and boxes?

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I know they're eager to get started and there's only one question on

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everyone's lips, which is...

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-ALL:

-What's it worth?

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Stay tuned and you'll find out.

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Our "Flog It!" team is ready to start today's valuations.

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We have our own army of researchers and behind-the-scenes valuers

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and our busy cameramen and sound recordists are here to capture everything.

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Today's experts are the highly industrious Catherine Southon...

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Saucy!

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We love a bit of sauce on "Flog it!".

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And Charles Hanson,

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who can truly be described as an artisan of the antiques world.

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In those immortal words, what's languishing in that bag?

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Everyone is keen to get started, so here's a glimpse of what's coming up.

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Charles is considering an alternative career.

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I always think I would make a good Redcoat.

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You would have no bother.

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Catherine finds an unexpected star of the show.

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This is wonderful! Oh, I'm so pleased.

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And can pigs really fly?

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-Here it goes.

-I can't believe it.

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I really can't believe it.

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Let's get straight over to the valuation tables and join up with Catherine Southon.

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And Catherine's found a piece of Welsh social history.

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Patricia, this is a lovely sampler you've brought along.

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I'm always interested in samplers.

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I'm always interested about how they were done.

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And they were often done by children, young girls, of such a young age,

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who would make these wonderful pictures up,

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often with letters of the alphabet or numbers or pictorial scenes.

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This one has been done by a lady called Mary Perrott.

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Who was Mary Perrott?

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She was my great-great-grandmother.

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How wonderful. So this has been handed down through the generations?

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Yes, well, it came to me through my aunt.

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My aunt died about 20 years ago.

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-OK.

-I inherited it from her.

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And was it framed?

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It was framed, but the frame was in such a poor state,

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it was full of woodworm. We had every intention of reframing it,

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-but of course, it never happened.

-Never happened, OK.

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Well, it's quite...

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I'm amazed at the condition of it, because so often,

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these get so badly faded and the threads are very loose as well,

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so they might come out.

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It's lovely to see that we've got the house here, we've got birds,

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we've got flowers, we've got some animals going down here.

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And what's this at the bottom?

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-Is it a church?

-A chapel, I think.

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A chapel. You don't know where that is?

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Well, she lived in Ebbw Vale, so whether it is local to Ebbw Vale...

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-Right.

-..I really don't know.

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Well, we can date it precisely because we've got the date, 1847.

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I love the cat and the dog.

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Of course, yes, the little cat and dog.

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-Very sweet.

-The more you look at it, the more you see.

-The more you see.

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Do you actually have this on display at home?

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It's been on the top of the wardrobe for 20 years.

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Has it really?

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-Yes.

-But you are happy to sell it?

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-Yes.

-Because it is a family piece.

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It's a family piece. The children don't want it.

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And we've got to the age now, we've got to get rid of some stuff.

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Got to move on.

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-I think if we put an estimate on of perhaps £60 to £100...

-Yes.

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-..with a reserve of £50 and then hopefully it will make towards the top end.

-Yes, that's fine.

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It's such a shame that's been on top of the wardrobe,

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so it's time to find it a new home.

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And talking about time, Charles has spotted a very impressive clock.

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Margaret and Sue, I feel like saying ding-dong.

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-Bell.

-Ding-dong, and what a belle you are, Margaret, and what a handsome clock.

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-Absolutely.

-Whose is it?

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-Mine.

-And you're Mother?

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-Yes.

-Margaret, how many years have you had this clock?

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Oh, gosh, 60, probably 70?

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Yeah. Long time.

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I like it a lot, because we don't often see what we call tavern clocks.

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And if there's ever a clock which is the more commercial today,

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it's the tavern clock.

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-Oh, good.

-I also like this mahogany veneer,

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which is rich and quite deep and well patinated,

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within this really nice cushion moulding.

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And you can see the level of age by the dirt within the crevices.

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It's clearly late 18th or early 19th century.

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OK? What concerned me were these square veneer pegs here.

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To me, it's a country-made tavern clock.

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Because these square pegs here actually support the pillar movement within.

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It may have been played with a bit, because, to me,

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these ought not be too obvious on the actual face of the clock.

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Right. Mind you, I think it does give the clock character.

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It gives it a life, yeah.

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What I like is this minute finger, which is weighted -

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that's original,

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and I believe this finger, too, is probably original.

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And of course it's something, Margaret, which, in its heyday,

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with your husband, you had to wind up every day?

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-Every day.

-Yeah. So it's a fairly simple 30-hour single train movement

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and, looking at the movement back here,

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what excites me is these little bobbins to support the train

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are a treen, or a turned wood, rather than being metal, so, to me,

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if I was to date this,

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I would suggest it's circa 1790, as late as 1815.

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And the giveaway to date is this ivory escutcheon.

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That would be about 1810.

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So, I like it. It needs some TLC.

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So I feel, realistically, we ought to put a fixed reserve on at £400,

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and put a guide price on of between £500 and £700.

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And I hope that meets your approval.

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Yes. It needs to go to a good home.

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Yeah. Shall we shake on it?

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And say, five to seven, reserve at four,

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we'll be going, going, gone.

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That's a great item.

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It makes me think about how many people have looked at this clock

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over 200 years, and kept time by it.

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But while the valuations continue, I'm off to explore the Margam estate.

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In its heyday, the estate ran to some 34,000 acres,

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and gamekeepers were essential outdoor servants.

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They maintained the pheasant and partridge stocks,

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but they also had to deal with poachers who came on to the land

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to find rabbits, hare and deer.

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On one occasion, that led to tragedy.

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On the 8th June 1898,

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a young gamekeeper named Robert Scott went up onto the hills

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overlooking the estate to investigate some suspicious gunshots.

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He was accompanied by an under-keeper and a constable.

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Scott was unarmed.

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As he tracked down the poacher,

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the poacher disappeared through a hole in a stone wall

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and, as Scott approached,

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the poacher fired at him and he got him in the face.

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He then fired a second, fatal shot before disappearing without trace.

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Now, I've found a report in a local newspaper archive that tells the story

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of the dreadful events and the outcry it caused.

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And here is a copy of the newspaper.

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If I flick across, look, that is an artist's impression of the gamekeeper.

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There he is, Robert Scott.

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But here is the poacher. Here is the murderer, and his name was Joe Lewis.

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Now, he could have got away with this,

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but he started bragging and boasting to friends about the events that happened that night.

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They obviously shopped him.

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He was arrested and sentenced to hang in Swansea prison.

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And here is an image of Swansea jail, look,

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with a great big crowd gathering as the black flag was being raised.

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But before he died, he wrote a letter to Scott's widow,

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and here is a copy of the letter.

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It says, "Dear Mrs Scott,

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"I want to say to you that I sympathise with you

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"in the sorrow I cause you to be in.

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"What I did, I did in self-defence, and I am praying for him,

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"and I hope you will forgive me.

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"Yours truly, Joseph Lewis."

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No-one lives on the Margam estate any more.

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But it's said that the ghost of Robert Lewis now haunts this place.

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What a dreadful story and a dreadful waste of a young life.

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I've not spotted any ghostly figures amongst our crowd today,

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but Catherine has spotted a very intriguing vase.

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-It's Mark.

-It is, yes.

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And you brought along this lovely Longwy vase.

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And where did you get this one?

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-It's through my family.

-It's a jolly nice vase.

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The colours are really superb.

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Lovely finish to this.

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What strikes me first of all is this crackle finish

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that we've got throughout,

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which is very similar to a lot of the Oriental vases that you were getting of a similar period.

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This probably dates to about early 20th century.

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So the 19th-century vases that you had

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had a very similar finish

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but they were often cloisonne enamel vases.

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So the vases that you had, the Oriental vases, in Japan,

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they had this Oriental cloisonne finish.

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And this French vase, this Longwy vase, has taken inspiration from that

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and almost recreated, not with enamel,

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but they've recreated that sort of finish, that cloisonne finish.

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And the lovely crackle panels to the side.

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It's lovely. But what I like here is this.

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That really sells it to me.

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This beautiful peacock on the side.

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Yes. Lovely.

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Super colours. The way that the tail trails behind,

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you can see all those lovely colours.

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One of the reasons why we know it's Longwy, apart from the decoration

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which is so typical of the French factory,

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-is the impressed mark underneath.

-I didn't see that.

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It's so faint but you can just about make out the L and the O for Longwy.

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Longwy and go right back to the 17th century,

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when the factory was east of Paris.

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Unfortunately, this piece doesn't go back quite that far.

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We are looking more early 20th century, so perhaps 1910,

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something like that. Now, price.

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You've had enough of it on your mantelpiece?

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It hasn't been out. It's been wrapped up.

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-Has it?

-In the garage, so...

-In the garage?

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Oh, right, so it really is time to move it on.

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Well, I think we should put about £80 to £120 on it at auction,

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perhaps with a reserve of about £70.

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-How does that sound to you?

-Fine.

-Are you happy to sell it at that?

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-Yes, thank you, yes.

-This really is a stunning piece

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and the peacock on it just does it for me.

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Well, there you are. Our experts have been very busy.

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They've now found their first three items to take off to auction.

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But before we do that,

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I want to tell you about another worker who was very busy here on the estate.

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In 1802, Lord Nelson came to visit

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and it was the responsibility of the duty gardener

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to show him and his party around the orangery.

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Nelson had such a marvellous time,

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he gave the gardener a three-shilling tip.

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Now, that was a lot of money back in the day.

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Let's hope our owners have as much luck as we now go off to auction

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for the first time.

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And here's a quick reminder of all the items that are

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going under the hammer.

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Patricia's hand-embroidered sampler has taken hours of painstaking work.

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It's time, gentlemen, please, for Margaret's tavern clock.

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And Mark's Longwy vase has been liberated from the garage

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and is bound to make an impact in the saleroom.

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We're heading to Cardiff for today's auction.

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Its wealth was built on its busy port,

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but Cardiff Bay has undergone a huge makeover in recent years

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and it's now an important cultural centre.

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Well, the sun's shining. I've got a good feeling about today.

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It's going to be a good day. We could have one or two big surprises.

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We are putting our valuations to the test

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right here at Rogers Jones & Co,

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one of the oldest auction rooms in Wales,

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and it's a family run business.

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We're going inside to catch up with our owners,

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and let's get on with the action.

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There are plenty of potential bidders milling around,

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and Ben Rogers Jones is on the rostrum,

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so let's crack on with our first lot.

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It's the sampler, beautifully hand-stitched

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by 12-year-old Mary Perrott almost 170 years ago.

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-Oh, do you feel sad for selling this?

-A little bit.

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A little bit. But it's something you want to do,

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because it's been on top of the wardrobe?

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-Yes.

-And no-one else in the family wants it?

-No.

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That's not your fault, is it?

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Isn't that lovely that we've got Patricia here,

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-and it relates directly to her family?

-It's going under the hammer right now.

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A good sampler here.

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Straight in I go at 50.

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-60, online.

-Oh, good, if it's online.

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70 in the States on the phone.

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80 online, 90, 100.

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I'm so pleased. You've got a phone bid on it.

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110, 120. 130 on the phone.

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140 online.

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50 online...

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They might be your distant relations buying it!

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70, 80, 90, 200.

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-220.

-This is really good.

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-240. 260.

-They're bidding in the States.

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Lovely sampler. 280, second thoughts online.

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280, come on, come on.

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-Push it a bit more.

-£300.

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Yes!

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This is wonderful. I'm so pleased.

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-This is wonderful.

-Last call at 300.

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Hammer's going down. Well, at least we didn't give it away.

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-£300.

-Thank you very much.

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Because sometimes they can be a bit iffy,

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but what's nice about that one is the pictures, the animals.

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It had everything, didn't it?

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And now it's gone.

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I feel sad. I'm more upset than you are!

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That was five times what we expected,

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and it's heading for a new home in America,

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where it will be given pride of place.

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Next is the quirky vase with the very distinctive decoration.

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It belongs to Mark.

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Not for much longer, at 80 to 120.

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It's a come and buy me, isn't it?

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Yes, it's got everything going for it.

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Why are you selling it?

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I can't put it out anywhere, because it's just too small, the house.

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-Oh, is it?

-I've only got a bungalow, so...

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-Right, so you are kind of decluttering a bit.

-Yes.

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OK, right, it's got to sell.

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We're going to put it under the hammer. This is it. Good luck.

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Wonderfully decorated Longwy faience ware vase.

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-I'm straight in at £50.

-50...

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And 60, and 70, and 80 and 90, 100.

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-Oh, good!

-110.

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-Oh, lovely!

-At 120, 120.

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In Belgium. 130, 140, 150, 160...

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It's the handles, Paul.

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OK, Belgium, you're out. 170.

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The UK has it online at 170.

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Is everybody done at 170?

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Here we go, at 170.

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And the hammer's up.

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-£170.

-Yes!

-Well done.

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Well done, you, Catherine, as well.

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Thank you for bringing that in, Mark.

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Well, I think the elephant handles swung it.

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Now it's the tavern clock.

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These were also known as Act of Parliament clocks,

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after a tax levied on clocks by William Pitt,

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the Prime Minister in 1797.

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I've just been joined by Margaret and Susan, mum and daughter,

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and our expert, Charles.

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We're putting that lovely Act of Parliament clock,

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the tavern clock, under the hammer.

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And the value was 500 to 700.

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-Indeed.

-The auctioneer has reduced that value.

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He thinks it was a little bit too high.

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-He's put 400 to 600.

-Indeed.

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With a reserve at 400, still, but you've upped the reserve to 450.

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So it's gone backwards and forwards and backwards and forwards,

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all for the sake of £50, and I'm pretty sure this will sell.

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-I hope so.

-I reckon we'll all be right at the end of the day, don't you?

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-I hope you're right.

-OK, here we go, ding-dong, this is it.

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I've got to start, it starts with me at £300.

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At 320 online, 40, with me, 60, 80, 400, and 20.

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We're going to sell it.

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-Ding-dong.

-440. 460 on the phone.

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-Yes, we've done it!

-480 online.

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-Right, here we go.

-500 on the phone.

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Anybody in the room now?

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550? 600.

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I'm taking two first.

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OK, I won't forget you, sir. 650.

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-700.

-700!

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It's all ticking. It's all ticking.

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800. And 50.

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-Brilliant!

-900.

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-And 50.

-Make it the big one.

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-Yes, £1,000!

-£1,100.

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The phone is out. £1,100.

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Before it goes, then, all done?

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-£1,100.

-£1,100.

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That gavel went down, and that was a sold sound.

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And that's the beauty of an auction.

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-That's why we love them!

-Yes!

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I don't think any of us were expecting that.

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It made more than twice its estimate.

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Hopefully someone has the right place to show it off.

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Well, there you are - so far, so good.

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That's our first three lots under the hammer.

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I just love auctions.

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You know, it's not just about the value, it's not the price,

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it's about the stories behind all of these items.

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Each one has a unique story.

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Before we find some more antiques,

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there's something I want to show you. Just down the road from here,

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there's a place called St Fagans National History Museum.

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It's unique because it doesn't just focus on the great and the good,

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it focuses on ordinary people.

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And that's what I love.

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Since 1948,

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buildings of special interest from all over Wales have been carefully

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taken apart and reassembled on this site near Cardiff.

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Every brick, slate and piece of timber is numbered so it can be

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reconstructed exactly as it was.

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The oldest domestic buildings here date back to the 15th century,

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like this traditional Welsh farmhouse from mid-Wales,

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which gives us a glimpse of how people lived in rural communities

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some 500 years ago.

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But the buildings that I've come to see today give us an insight

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into our industrial past.

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Merthyr Tydfil in south Wales

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was a boom town of the Industrial Revolution.

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In 1800, a new terrace of houses was built at Rhyd-y-Car

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for the town's ironworkers.

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But by the early 1980s, the terrace was derelict and facing demolition.

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The National History Museum stepped in to rescue part of the original

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terrace for a unique project.

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The idea was to use the fabric and interiors of these buildings

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to shed a light on the lives of the people who had lived in them.

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What made this so special was the history spanned almost 200 years,

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from the early 1800s when they were first built, right up to 1985.

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Six houses, numbers 17 to 22, were carefully reconstructed here.

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The interior of each house represents a specific year in its history,

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and the first one dates to 1805.

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It has one multipurpose room, a small rear bedroom and one upstairs.

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I like this. I like this place a lot, actually.

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It's got a good feel about it.

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What strikes me about it is, it's very rustic, yet it's in an urban setting.

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So the couple that originally lived here came from the countryside.

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They moved to the area to find employment in the ironworks,

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like many other people.

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So the furniture they brought with them was traditional Welsh furniture.

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It's all handcrafted. It's beautiful.

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It's a multifunctional room.

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Everything in here has a purpose.

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Now, the fireplace, not only a focal point in this little room,

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but it keeps you warm.

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That's your source of central heating for the whole house.

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You did your cooking on there and you boiled up the water to make a cup of tea

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in that massive, great big old iron kettle.

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And if you wanted a bath, well, you had a tin bath.

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That would be hanging up on the outside wall, out back.

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You plonked it down there, filled it up with water,

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heated it up and jumped in it.

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'At this time, the windows of the houses didn't open.

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'The lack of ventilation meant that disease quickly spread.'

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Now, a local newspaper article at the time said that the streets were in a state of disgusting filth,

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abounding in fermenting and putrefying substances,

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equally offensive to decency and injurious to public health.

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Now, due to the lack of sanitation, and overcrowding,

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cholera struck in Merthyr Tydfil in 1849.

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Now, sadly, in Rhyd-y-Car Terrace alone, five people died.

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It says here, in the surrounding area, 884 people also lost their lives.

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The third house in Rhyd-y-Car Terrace

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shows the impact of the Industrial Revolution on people's lives.

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Now, this house dates to 1895 and, as you can see instantly,

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it's completely different.

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It's absolutely full of things.

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This is the Victorian age.

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The era of mass production.

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Industry moving at full tilt.

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And it's the first time that working-class people could afford things.

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Not just practical, functional things, but decorative things,

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as you can see here, look.

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Loads of jugs hanging up, polished brasses,

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Staffordshire flatback figures, all the rage back then.

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Country pottery. It's all very, very homely.

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But I'd like to hear about the actual people who lived in these houses,

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with the person responsible for the project,

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former director of the museum, Dr Eurwyn William.

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What sort of people lived here?

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Well, the houses were originally built for ironworkers,

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and they were the creme de la creme of the working class, if you like.

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Dangerous occupation but very well paid.

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But from about 1850 to 1860,

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the majority of the men worked in the coal mines.

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So, you know, lower paid, so it was a quite difficult lifestyle, I think.

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Now, you've got some photographs of people that lived in the original terrace.

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Can you talk me through some of them?

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Yes, surely. These are two sisters, Bessie and Letitia Thomas.

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These are studio photographs from about 1900.

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-So this is 1900?

-This is 1900.

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And they lived next door but one to each other, in the terrace,

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for the whole of their lives.

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Oh, that's lovely! So they looked after each other?

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Yes, Bessie, number 18, Letitia, number 20.

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And here they are again in 1945.

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Oh, look at that!

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This is Bessie, and this is Letitia,

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celebrating the end of the Second World War.

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And these two lived next door but one to each other all their lives.

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-Don't they look alike?

-They look exactly the same.

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-Isn't that lovely?

-But one of them, Bessie, in fact,

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she was one of the last inhabitants of the terrace and she was still

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living here in her 90s, in the 1970s.

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-Oh, how sweet.

-Yes.

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This chap, Tom Davies, from number 17, 9st in weight,

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and he was a professional wrestler and a strongman.

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-Oh, I see!

-Yes, he was professionally known as Saldo.

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My favourite of all the many dozens, perhaps hundreds,

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of photographs we have gathered is this one.

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These are the children of Rhyd-y-Car

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in front of one of the tips which surrounded the terrace.

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That's a lovely group shot.

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This is late Victorian.

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And the donkey is significant,

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because there were so many donkeys used for transport and so on

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in the terrace that, to the rest of the inhabitants of Merthyr,

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Rhyd-y-Car was known as Donkey Town!

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Oh, was it? How sweet!

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Look at all those people together.

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One community, looking after each other.

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Yes.

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By 1955, Britain was rebuilding itself as a modern post-war nation.

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In Merthyr Tydfil, heavy industry was replaced by manufacturing,

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and the terrace reflects this modern era.

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The outdoor shed is now a kitchen with practical, modern furniture,

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which means the sitting room can be used for relaxing and socialising.

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Long gone are the traditional pieces of Welsh furniture, all handcrafted.

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What we have here, mass-produced pieces of furniture.

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Still in oak, but lightened up and softened in style.

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Not so heavy. Here is the fireplace, look.

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Not that pretty.

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No longer the focal point of the sitting room.

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That space now belongs to this, ta-da!

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The TV set. That is the future.

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The final house in the terrace dates to 1985, which isn't that long ago,

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but it really shows how much this community had changed.

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It doesn't look remotely Welsh.

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We're not in Merthyr Tydfil any more.

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This could be anywhere in the UK.

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Look at this. It's full of things you could buy

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on any high street in Britain. We could be in Basildon in Essex.

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Look. Fish and chips on the G Plan furniture.

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My mum and dad had an electric fireplace just like that

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with a couple of bars, and if it was really cold, you put both bars on.

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Yeah, this is familiar,

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but there's something rather special in the kitchen I want to show you,

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so come through here.

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Right, here we are.

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The fully fitted kitchen.

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Something we're all familiar with.

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But this is the piece de resistance. This is what I wanted to show you.

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Are you ready for this?

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Here we go.

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Ta-da! Look at that.

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No longer do you have a bath in the front room in an old tub.

0:27:200:27:23

You can now have a bath in the kitchen!

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So you can sit in there, saying, "Mum?

0:27:260:27:28

"Make us a cup of tea!"

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She hasn't got far to bring it.

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This terrace could've been knocked down and lost for ever.

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I'm so glad it was saved.

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Now, compared to a castle or a magnificent stately home,

0:27:410:27:45

it may seem insignificant and uninteresting,

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but the fabric of these buildings,

0:27:480:27:50

the items inside them and the people who lived here

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all have a fascinating story to tell.

0:27:530:27:56

It goes way beyond this terrace.

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These homes are about the story of all of us.

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What a fantastic place.

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It's exactly the kind of history that fascinates me.

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So time to return to the valuation day

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to see what other stories and items our experts have uncovered.

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And it looks like Charles is in the mood for a holiday.

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Sometimes, to me, a happy holiday is finding something that just has that

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within its make-up. And these badges have that, don't they?

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-Tell me about them.

-Yes, well, I was a Butlin's Redcoat in 1967.

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I collected a few badges on the way

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and at the end of the season I had 96 different ones.

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So, back in the '60s, you were a Redcoat at Minehead.

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I'd always dance.

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And I did magic, so put that down on my form, and they said start May 21.

0:28:500:28:55

And these badges are part of your story.

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And it's a lovely collection.

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I can see Skegness Butlin's.

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There's only one of Blackpool, which is very rare.

0:29:030:29:06

And then we've got three Christmas ones.

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And then we've got Scottish ones

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and Ayr, Ireland.

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When was the golden age for Butlin's?

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'60s, early '70s.

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But then people started feeling they had jobs, they had the car,

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they had the money and in came the foreign holiday and then...

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I always think I'd make a good Redcoat.

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-You could do, yes.

-Would I pass?

0:29:270:29:28

-You would have no bother!

-Thanks a lot, yeah.

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-Thanks a lot. And that wasn't pre-prepared, was it?

-No.

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Thanks a lot.

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There's another badge here

0:29:350:29:37

which was a benefit of a second week at Butlin's. I mean, what a luxury.

0:29:370:29:42

How many badges are here?

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There's 96 different ones.

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96. My value with a view to auction would be between £50 and £80.

0:29:450:29:51

-Is that OK with you?

-Yes, fine.

-Fantastic.

0:29:510:29:53

I think we'd put a reserve on of maybe, say £40,

0:29:530:29:57

just to protect them, and hopefully we'll see a good sale.

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What an unusual collection.

0:30:010:30:02

It's a real slice of nostalgia.

0:30:020:30:05

So let's hope it brings back memories for the bidders in the auction.

0:30:050:30:08

And it looks like Catherine has found something equally quirky.

0:30:080:30:12

Linda, you've got a charming pair of little clockwork toys here.

0:30:140:30:18

Tell me where you got them from.

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My sister and I had them when we were children,

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so they are about 65 years old.

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And we had them as a gift from my uncle,

0:30:260:30:29

who was in the Merchant Navy, and he used to travel around the world,

0:30:290:30:33

and wherever he went, he used to bring us a little something back.

0:30:330:30:36

-He used to bring you a little gift?

-Yes, and he brought us these.

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Because these date back to the '50s.

0:30:400:30:43

About 1950.

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So you were given them as a child.

0:30:440:30:47

-That's right. Yes.

-Shall we have a little go and see if they work?

0:30:470:30:50

Let's try him first.

0:30:500:30:51

Oh, look at that.

0:30:560:30:57

He does move, actually. I think it's because of the velvet that he's not.

0:30:570:31:01

Well, we won't let him walk.

0:31:010:31:03

We'll let him just play his drums.

0:31:030:31:05

And do you remember playing with them as a child?

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Because they are in lovely condition.

0:31:110:31:13

They are in lovely condition and that's probably because we weren't

0:31:130:31:16

allowed to play with them as a child.

0:31:160:31:18

-You weren't? You were given them and then they were put away in the cabinet?

-In the cabinet, yes.

0:31:180:31:22

But we did have them out now and again and played with them and we really

0:31:220:31:25

-enjoyed playing with them.

-So, which one belonged to you?

0:31:250:31:29

Mine's that one, with the violin.

0:31:290:31:31

My sister had the one with the drum.

0:31:310:31:33

Right, OK.

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Well, they're lovely and they are made by Schuco, a German factory,

0:31:350:31:39

founded in 1912 in Nuremberg.

0:31:390:31:42

And these are made out of tin plate, but they're clockwork.

0:31:420:31:46

But the clothes are absolutely immaculate, these wonderful felt clothes.

0:31:460:31:50

In lovely condition.

0:31:500:31:52

Schuco carried on producing toys throughout the years.

0:31:530:31:57

They stopped in the '70s when they went bankrupt,

0:31:570:32:00

but have then come back into fashion

0:32:000:32:02

and they are still actually producing toys today.

0:32:020:32:04

Oh, I didn't realise that.

0:32:040:32:06

Still producing toys today. It is a good factory.

0:32:060:32:08

Now, this one hasn't got its key.

0:32:080:32:11

No. So they have to share the key.

0:32:110:32:13

They have to share the key. So they need to stay together.

0:32:130:32:15

-Yes.

-So, it all comes down to price.

0:32:150:32:18

And we want to keep them together.

0:32:180:32:20

I would suggest an estimate of about 80 to 120

0:32:200:32:24

with a reserve on of £80.

0:32:240:32:26

Are you happy with that?

0:32:260:32:28

I'd like to put it up a little bit more.

0:32:280:32:30

-Do you think that would...

-I'm very happy to do that.

0:32:300:32:34

What sort of price would you like?

0:32:340:32:35

90 or 100 for the two?

0:32:350:32:37

Shall we say 100 to 150

0:32:370:32:40

with perhaps a £90 reserve?

0:32:400:32:42

Are you happier with that?

0:32:420:32:43

-Yes.

-Right, OK.

0:32:430:32:45

Right, let's give his little friend a little go.

0:32:450:32:48

I think this is the nicer one, actually.

0:32:480:32:50

I think you got the better deal.

0:32:500:32:52

-There he goes.

-They're cute, aren't they?

-Very cute.

0:32:540:32:58

They're nicer than the toys we get today, aren't they?

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And let's hope they cause lots of amusement at the auction.

0:33:010:33:05

I hope so.

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While the valuations continue in the shadow of Margam Castle,

0:33:090:33:12

we're actually lucky to have this as a backdrop

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because on 4th August 1977,

0:33:150:33:17

the castle hit the headlines in a very dramatic way.

0:33:170:33:21

While work was being carried out on the house,

0:33:210:33:24

the lower-ground floor caught fire.

0:33:240:33:26

The flames spread rapidly and, within minutes,

0:33:260:33:29

engulfed the entire house.

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And in amongst our research area here,

0:33:330:33:35

within this part of the old ruin,

0:33:350:33:38

we have one of the firefighters, Mike Osborne.

0:33:380:33:40

Pleased to meet you. Thank you for coming in today.

0:33:400:33:43

So, how bad was the fire that day?

0:33:430:33:45

When we arrived, the ground floor was well alight.

0:33:450:33:48

It had gone through the ceiling, through the upper floors.

0:33:480:33:51

That was quite spectacular because flames were coming out the window

0:33:510:33:54

and licking up the outside walls.

0:33:540:33:57

Eventually it went through the roof,

0:33:570:33:59

which collapsed into the fire.

0:33:590:34:01

The heat must have been intense.

0:34:010:34:04

Very much so. Because you had the smoke, the heat,

0:34:040:34:07

the hot embers coming up with the heat.

0:34:070:34:10

In addition, you had the steam from the water application.

0:34:100:34:14

All this represented difficulties in seeing what was happening.

0:34:140:34:19

Once you got the fire under control and it was sort of smouldering,

0:34:190:34:23

what was it like seeing this historic building in such a state?

0:34:230:34:27

It was so sad to see this piece of local history, culture, heritage

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going up in smoke, as it were. That was sad.

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All firemen, as far as I'm concerned, are heroes.

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You risk your lives to save other people's lives and you've partly saved this building, which is great.

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-So thanks to you.

-Glad to be of help!

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While I've been talking to Mike, our valuations continued.

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We need one more item to take to auction

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and Charles has found a wee pig that is far from home.

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Sharon, I often wonder, what is a Scottish pig doing here in Wales?

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Ah, mystery.

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-I wouldn't know.

-How did you acquire him?

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I bought him in a church fair for £4 about two years ago.

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-Really?

-Bargain!

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-You saw him and you thought, ah, I know.

-Wemyss.

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-Hopefully.

-That magical word.

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The factory began in 1882,

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when Karel Nekola and Robert Heron got together and they put this factory together.

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The name was based on the local big family,

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the Wemyss family at the castle.

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By 1930,

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they had stopped and the rights to these pigs had been sold to a factory on the south coast.

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So, hello, pig.

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Let's have a look at you.

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What I love about him first of all is, the ears are in good condition.

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There are a few minor little signs of wear on the tips.

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I love what appear to be almost clovers.

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And I look in the crevices to make sure there's a level of wear

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to suggest this pig's been around 125, 130 years.

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And the body is good, but there's no tail!

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-No.

-There's no tail.

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-Sorry about that.

-What happened?

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It was like that when I bought it.

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And just in the crevice down here, you can barely see,

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-have you found it yet?

-My husband found it but I find it hard to see.

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But there is a number as well and it looks like a double-S on the end.

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Yeah, that is your Wemyss mark.

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So, in that regard, I'm quite happy it does come from the Fife factory.

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And if I was to date him,

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I would say that your Wemyss pig would date to around 1900 -

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1910 at the very latest.

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I like him. How much do you like him?

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Well, I like him, but, you know... I'd like to sell him!

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Is it time he goes to a Welsh market?

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Yes, I think so.

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We can ask that question, how much is that pig in the window?

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With our problem, he's without the...

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-Waggly tail! ALL:

-Waggly tail!

-Exactly, I like that a lot, yeah, yeah.

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I think the tail will affect value.

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But even so, he is commercial.

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And my instinct would be between 150 and 250.

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-Right.

-Put the reserve at about £120.

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-Yes.

-Does that figure meet your approval?

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Yes, it's more than £4, so it's fine!

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It just... It just shows, doesn't it, what you can still find.

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But he isn't the one with the...

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-ALL:

-Waggly tail.

-Thank you very much.

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Lovely.

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If anyone spots that missing tail, do let us know.

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Will that hold the Wemyss pig back?

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We'll find out soon.

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You've just seen them -

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our experts have now found their final items to take off to auction.

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Let's hope it's going to be a productive day.

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We need top money in the saleroom right now.

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And here's a quick recap of all the items we're taking with us,

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as we say goodbye to our magnificent host location.

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But right now, we've got some unfinished business to do in the auction room.

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Donald's collection of Butlin's holiday camp badges

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from all over the UK.

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Linda and her sister's pair of German clockwork toys.

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And this decorative Wemyss piggy is heading to market.

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Back at the auction room,

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Ben Rogers Jones is holding the fort on the rostrum.

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It's been a hectic sale today, so let's crack on with our first lot,

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the Butlin's badges.

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This is a first on "Flog It!".

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We've never sold a collection, or had a collection,

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of Butlin's badges on this show.

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They belong to Donald, who is right next to me.

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Did you get into collecting badges because you were a Redcoat, then?

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Well, yes.

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I didn't know I had so many until the end of the season

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when I put them together, and they've been in a tin ever since.

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And now you want to sell them. OK.

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They capture a moment.

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They do. Not a lot of money, but here we go.

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This lovely Butlin's... Wonderful collection.

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I'm straight in at £70.

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A bid, sir? Five, I've got £80.

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Five, and 90.

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Five, 100.

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£100. Is there ten?

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110, your bid.

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Before you, 120, 130, 140, 150.

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-£150...

-This is fantastic.

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Wonderful.

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Yes. I won't forget you, sir. At 180.

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-Get that coat back on.

-200. 220.

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220!

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240, 260. 260.

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At 260 online.

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Just a happy facet of history,

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but the public... The sun's shining on us.

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Yes, and it's still going strong.

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At 280, 280, 300.

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-300.

-Wonderful!

0:39:350:39:37

Is there 20? At £300.

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At £300.

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Yes!

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-£300.

-Well done.

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That was a great price. I mean, there were a lot of badges there.

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And good on you for collecting them. Good on you.

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It's great to see Donald's collection fetch such a good price.

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It's obviously brought back holiday memories for someone.

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And now it's the pair of quirky tinplate toys.

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These are great fun and in mint condition.

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We've got two of them right now, belonging to Linda.

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One was your sister's and one was yours.

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-That's right.

-And you're selling them together,

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which I think's really nice because, whoever buys them,

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hopefully will keep them together.

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They will be lonely without each other, won't they?

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We want them to go together.

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And who have you brought along with you today?

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My granddaughters and my daughter.

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They're over there, look, give us a wave.

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Lots of moral support!

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These are great, aren't they?

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Really good.

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You must have hardly ever played with these because they're in such good condition and working.

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They're going under the hammer now. This is it.

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These wonderful Schuco clockwork felt-covered figures.

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-This is it.

-70 to start?

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At £70, is there five?

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At 75, 80, five, 90, five, your bid.

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95, 100 bid.

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-Is there ten?

-110 now.

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Is there 20 online?

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-110.

-You can get sentimental now.

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At 110, here we go.

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110. They've gone.

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£110.

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Hopefully they're going to stay together and go to a good home.

0:41:040:41:06

-Yes.

-I think so.

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And thank you for bringing them in,

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because we've had hours of fun with those at the valuation.

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I think it's the condition of these that has paid off.

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That's exactly what collectors want.

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Now it's the turn of the Wemyss pig.

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No-one has turned up with his tail yet, so will that put the bidders off?

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Why are you selling your Wemyss pig?

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It's not that I've gone off it, it's just sort of, you know...

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I'm waiting to build a wall, and the funds will go towards it.

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Right, OK, and that's a really good starting point.

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I tell you what, picking that up for four quid is a bargain,

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-even with a bit of damage. You don't care.

-It's a great find.

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Well, OK, let's try it, shall we, Charles?

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Here we go. This is it.

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This charming Wemyss pig.

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-Bids all over the place, from all over the country.

-Hold tight!

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I'm straight in at £700.

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-Unbelievable!

-Is there 50?

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At 750, at 780, 800 or nine?

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At £800.

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Would you like 50?

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50 on the phone.

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850. 900.

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£900. 950, new phone now.

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-At 950.

-950.

-I can't believe it.

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I can't, actually. Considering the tail is damaged.

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-Would you like 11?

-Very good spot for £4.

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-At £1,100?

-I can't believe that.

0:42:250:42:27

Is there 12 now? At £1,200.

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Why not? What's £100?

0:42:290:42:30

-Yeah, why not?

-£1,300, at £1,300 for the little pig.

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What did you put on this, Charles?

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-It's a lot of money.

-What did you put on it?

-100 to 200.

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Because the condition is wonderful.

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At £1,400, have we all done?

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At £1,400, here it goes.

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I can't believe it.

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I really can't believe it.

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-What did you put on it?

-100 to 200, and it had legs.

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-Literally.

-Amazing.

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What do you think about that?

0:42:570:42:58

-I'm shaking.

-That is fantastic!

-Well done.

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Thank you so much.

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Oh, wow, what a way to end today's show.

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What a surprise. We never saw that coming.

0:43:060:43:09

I didn't see that coming either.

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I was with you on that value.

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You never know. We can never stop learning on this show.

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And I hope you don't, too.

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Join us again for many more surprises but, until then, it's goodbye.

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