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I'm on top of Powderham Castle in Devon, and it was built in a

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commanding position for a very good reason.

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Overlooking the Exe estuary,

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you could see potential invaders for miles around and mount a defence.

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Also, you could keep a watchful eye over the estate below.

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And today, we can keep a watchful eye over all the antiques and

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collectables arriving for our valuation day.

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Welcome to "Flog It!".

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The castle is set in 3,500 acres, with a deer park that runs down to

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the River Exe, with three miles of foreshore, which include moorings.

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Despite its fortification, this is very much a family home.

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The Courtenay family have been in residence for the last 600 years

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and it's one that welcomes visitors.

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So we're here to make the most of the day and it looks like the

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"Flog It!" crowd is making itself comfortable.

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Well, they won't be waiting much longer because there's plenty to do

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inside the building.

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This massive crowd are eager to get in there.

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Our experts are eager to show off their knowledge.

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They want to wax lyrical.

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Shall we test their knowledge?

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What's the question you want to ask them?

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-ALL:

-What's it worth?

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Stay tuned and you'll find out.

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Keen to answer that question is auctioneer Will Axon.

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Oh, it's a bit early for that, sir!

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And joining him is Mark Stacey.

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I love the frog.

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I, I like him a lot, actually.

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So, it's time to lead our queue to the entrance and on to the

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dining hall and the sumptuous rooms beyond.

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As they settle in and unpack, our experts gear up.

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Here's a preview of what is coming up in today's show.

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Will finds his sea legs.

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Well, I tell you what, Betty, land ahoy!

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A leather case has Mark excited.

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Let's open the item.

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It's always nice when you see leather cases or boxes,

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it's rather intriguing to see what's in there.

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A clock by a Devon maker ticks all the boxes at the auction house.

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You're in the money.

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And we are taking to the high seas

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to explore Devon's maritime heritage.

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And from here, you can see why Plymouth has a global reputation and

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is a port with a future.

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And all that's for later.

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This balcony was designed to enhance the medieval feel of the building.

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And in days gone by, musicians would have sat up here,

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entertaining the diners below, just down there.

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And it's a great vantage point for me because I can see everybody

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arriving with their antiques and collectables.

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So, now that everybody's safely seated, it's time to make a start.

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Are you ready, everyone?

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-ALL:

-Yes.

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And it's Will who's first off the mark and the items on his table

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could have come straight from a tall ship.

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Betty, tell me - who had the sea legs in your family

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and have you inherited them?

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Well, I hope so.

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But not with sailing boats.

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-No?

-But I'm hoping to go on one near Christmas.

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A cruise ship, is it?

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No, it's...

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-The...

-Wow, one of the tall ships?

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-Yes.

-Amazing. So you'll be scrabbling up that mast to the crow's nest,

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-will you?

-Yes. I don't think!

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-Attached by a rope.

-LAUGHTER

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Well, listen, I love what you've brought in today.

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We've got a couple of...

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Sawfish rostrums.

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Exactly right.

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We've got to stress that these are 19th-century examples, aren't they?

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-Yes.

-I've got a telescope here which, again,

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I'm loving the sort of maritime connection there.

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And this is the Mizpah.

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The Mizpah, yes.

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And what's the relevance of that ship to these items?

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It belonged to my great-grandfather.

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-No!

-Yes.

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The telescope was Great-Grandfather's,

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so it was on the ship.

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And they used to take, apparently, the wife,

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and gradually up to, I think, about eight children.

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Really? Well, those long old journeys, there's not much to do.

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No, somebody must have been fishing!

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Yes, exactly, because as you say, these are sawfish rostrums.

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And they are strange creatures, aren't they?

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Almost mythical in the way that they look.

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Amazing. We used to sword fight with them as children.

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You're joking... Well, I was going to ask you.

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-There's a few... One of these needs to go and see the dentist.

-It does. Yes.

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-You never got hit by one, though, did you?

-Well, I don't think so.

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Now, the telescope I like.

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I'm just going to have a look to see if there's a maker's...

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There is a maker's name there.

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Blackford & Imray of London.

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Day or night, as you say.

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Well, I tell you what, Betty, land ahoy!

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Look at that! Well, it does work.

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-Oh, good.

-And I love the fact you've got this magazine with the actual

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picture of the ship on.

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It all ties in really nicely.

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Now, what about value?

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Well, I have no idea of the value.

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OK. Listen, I think the telescope is what we would call a working model.

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It's not going to be the finest engineered piece in the world that the

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collectors are going to go crazy for.

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The magazine, it's really just an aside.

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Yeah, what's interesting is the provenance between the ship, there,

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that's illustrated. And then the sawfish rostrums,

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to make good money, they tend to have to be the very large ones,

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which become more of a focus point,

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a bit of an interior designer's piece.

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So, we should probably look at each piece,

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50, 100, 150,

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how does that sound to you?

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-Sounds fine.

-Yeah?

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-Yes.

-Well, listen, can I be cheeky and say let's put that 150 as the

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top end of my estimate?

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-Yes, that's fine.

-And we'll estimate them at 100-150.

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Do you want a reserve on them or are you happy for them to go?

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Well, I suppose there ought to be a reserve, but I have no idea.

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Do you want me to give them an even better chance of selling and say

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-£80 reserve?

-Yeah, that's fine.

-Are you sure?

-Yes.

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-Thank you for bringing those in.

-Thank you very much.

-And, well, set sail to the auction.

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-Right.

-Aye-aye, captain.

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Yes. See you there.

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In the music room, Mark's also

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uncovered a gem with a maritime connection.

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David, you've brought a rather intriguing item to show us today.

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Before we reveal it, can you tell us a little bit of the history of this?

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I'm not sure of the history of it, when it was being used.

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But it came into my father's hands back in the 1960s, I believe.

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1960s? OK.

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And I inherited it from him when, in 1980, when he died.

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So you don't know whether he purchased it or someone gave it to him?

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No, I don't have any clue to that.

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And there doesn't seem to be any family connection.

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Right, OK. Well, let's open the item.

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It's always nice when you see leather cases or boxes.

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It's rather intriguing to see what's in here.

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When we open it up, we find a little compass.

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And it's intriguing because it looks like a military compass to me.

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And actually, when you look at the leather box,

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it does say Captain H Joyce Phillips, RM,

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which I presume is Royal Marines.

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-I would think so.

-On the back, it has the word "patents, 1915".

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So, obviously, it fits in with that Great War period.

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But the company themselves were quite prolific makers.

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They were based in London, in Clerkenwell.

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And they used to retail through the firm on the front of the case,

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which is JH Steward of the Strand.

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Normally, when things have a military connection,

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when they've been bought specifically for military purposes,

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they are stamped with what is known as a little crow's foot.

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This doesn't have that on there but it does have the military case.

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So it's got that historical connection.

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We do have a few problems, don't we, I think.

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It's been dropped at some point or something.

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I would imagine so, because it is probably inaccurate now.

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Yeah, so it's just really a sort of collector's item rather than a

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-usable compass, I think.

-Yes.

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The quality of the manufacture, you just don't get that these days,

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-do you?

-It's very well-made.

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Very well-made. With this sort of blackened case and the brass work

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showing. Now, I think there will be some interest at auction.

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I don't think it's going to make a huge amount.

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-I understand.

-You know, it's a bit of fun, really.

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If we put it in for, say, £30 to £50, and no reserve, is that all right?

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I'm very happy with the auctioneer's discretion.

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That's wonderful. And will you be able to find your way to the

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-auctions or do you need a compass?

-No, I don't need a compass.

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I know the A38, thank you.

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-See you at the sale.

-Right.

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I've slipped away from the hustle and bustle of the valuation day

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to show you the china room. It may be small but what a collection.

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And I love the fact that it's painted in Wedgwood blue.

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Now, the story goes, one of the ladies in the Courtenay family

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came down to the kitchen one evening to prepare the supper menus,

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and she caught the servants using the best bone china.

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Now, of course, it all had to be taken off them and put in a safe

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position, hence this room was created.

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And the great thing about this collection is it's all catalogued,

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identified and dated during the

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early part of the 20th century by Venetia, the Countess of Devon,

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and Queen Victoria's granddaughter, Princess Marie-Louise,

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who spent time here in Devon during her summer holidays.

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Many of the pieces are considered desirable, exotic and expensive.

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Back to Will now. And he's making me jealous.

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Well, Belinda, I'm just having a look round, in case Paul's watching.

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To be honest, if he sees me valuing these, he's only going to get upset,

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isn't he? Because we all know he loves a bit of Troika,

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which is exactly what you've brought in.

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These are fantastic pieces.

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-Where have you got them from?

-We bought them at auction.

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You say "we", who's that?

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-My husband and I.

-I mean,

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did you always like this sort of Modernist decoration?

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Were you always quite forward-thinking in your tastes,

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-you and your husband?

-I like them.

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My husband preferred them, to be honest.

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-You like them, he loved them.

-Yeah.

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So, what drew you to them?

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-Because they're not everyone's cup of tea, are they?

-Abstract design.

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That's what you like. See, that's what I was...

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-Anything abstract.

-Really?

-Like your good self.

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Oh, thank you very much.

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I've been called many things but never abstract.

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Well, Troika, as we know on this programme,

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set up 1963 by Benny Sirota,

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amongst others.

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Why I mention Benny Sirota is because this one is by him - was designed by him,

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wasn't it? They call them what, the Thames Fish Plaque, is it?

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The Thames Fish Plaque With Outer Buildings.

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Interesting, isn't it? Real sort of of the time, very cutting-edge,

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forward-thinking.

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Then, this one, I think, is called the...

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-Calculator.

-Well, for obvious reasons.

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That would be one calculator, wouldn't it,

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to pull that out of your pocket?

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-Would you carry it?

-No, I wouldn't.

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-No, neither would I.

-I'd only end up breaking it.

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You say you bought them from auction.

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How long ago? Was it fairly recently?

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-15 years ago.

-15 years ago.

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-Do you remember what you paid for them?

-Yes.

-Oh, dear.

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-Go on, then.

-£1,778.

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£1,700?!

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HE GROANS

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Well, listen, I think, you know, at the end of the day,

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it's down to what the collectors are prepared to pay nowadays,

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aren't they? I'm afraid I'm going to be a bit more realistic in my

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estimate. I think probably on the calculator plaque,

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around the £400-£600 mark.

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Fix a reserve at 400.

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On the Sirota piece, because of the connection with him,

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one of the founder members,

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I would say 600-800 on that.

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I think offer them as two separate lots.

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But if you add the two estimates together,

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you're looking at around maybe 1,000, 1,500.

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On a good day, we might go some way towards getting your money back,

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which would be a bonus, wouldn't it?

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-It certainly would.

-Belinda, it's been a pleasure.

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Thank you very much for calling me abstract, I think.

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Yeah, but you are, so...

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You know?

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-That's a nice end to your day.

-I'm not having this...

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No, no, no.

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Well, the first library here is certainly providing great inspiration for

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our hard-working team.

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Just look at the amount of books here!

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It's considered there are around 10,000 of them at Powderham Castle,

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which reflects the status of the Courtenay family.

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The more books you had, the more wealth you had,

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and the better-read you were.

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Well, our experts have certainly been putting their knowledge to the test.

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They found their first three items to take off to the saleroom.

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This is where it gets exciting.

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Don't go away. Anything could happen.

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We're going to leave you with a quick rundown of all the items we're

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taking with us.

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Straight from a ship, a telescope and a swordfish rostra.

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The military compass with a Marine stamp.

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And not one but two Troika plaques, a calculator design...

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..and the River Thames scene.

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We're heading south-west to Plymouth,

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a city with an impressive maritime heritage.

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We'll be exploring this later, but for now,

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we're dropping anchor as we pay our first visit to the saleroom.

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On the rostrum today is Anthony Eldred.

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And first under the gavel is the military compass.

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Well, the waiting's nearly over with, David.

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-Are you ready for it?

-I think so.

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Let's hope our next lot points in the right direction.

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I'm not talking about north, south, east or west,

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I'm talking about that way - it goes skywards.

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The roof's the limit on this one.

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-Well...

-Well!

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I'm bigging it up.

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-You are bigging it up.

-Surely, it's got to be worth more than £30.

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Well, I don't think it's working properly, but it's a

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nice relic of what it is.

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There are lots of people who like scientific instruments.

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That's why we put a bit of fun estimate in.

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And a slight maritime connection - Royal Marines.

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-Absolutely.

-So, we're in the right place.

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-Ready for this?

-I'm ready when you are.

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Let's do it. Let's put it under the hammer. Here we go.

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Next is lot 163,

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which is the little brass and black enamel prismatic compass.

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I'm bid £38 for it.

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It's a phone line coming in.

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Five, eight, 50.

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At £50 here, on my left.

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At £50.

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Standing against the wall.

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-Come on.

-Sell it for £50.

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-£50.

-That's all right, isn't it?

-That's good.

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-A lot better than 30. Yeah.

-I'm very pleased with that.

-Top end.

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-So am I.

-I'm glad it might go to a good home.

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I'm sure it will. There are lots of collectors...

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Somebody who'll enjoy.

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I'm a fan of our next lot, but is my passion going to be shared?

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Belinda, thank you for bringing in some Troika.

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-You know, it's one of my favourites, it really is.

-You're welcome.

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It sums up that rugged Cornish coastline.

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I'm a big fan of Benny Sirota and the team that put Troika together,

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as we know. We've got two plaques, we've split them into two lots.

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We've got the River Thames fish plaque.

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-Interesting.

-Interesting.

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I've not seen one of these come up for sale for a long, long time.

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And we have possibly your favourite plaque.

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The calculator one. I'd prefer that, myself.

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The abstract-ness of it.

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But right now we're going to try with the Thames plaque.

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-OK.

-Originally,

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Will put a value of £600 to £800 on the Troika with the River Thames design.

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But Anthony and Belinda had a discussion.

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It's now been reduced to 400 to 600.

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This is it. Here we go. Let's see if we can get that £600 mark.

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Next lot is the Troika pottery River Thames fish plaque.

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There it is. £350 for that.

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-At 350.

-350.

-£350.

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At 370. 380. 390. 400.

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And ten. At £410.

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420.

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At 420 now.

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-Bidder in the room.

-430, then.

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In the room. At 430.

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Last chance, then, at 430.

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That's 430 for the first lot.

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We just got that away, didn't we?

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Fingers crossed we get a bit more for the second.

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-Fingers crossed.

-This is it.

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Here we go. Let's see if we can get that £600 mark.

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Here's another Troika pottery plaque.

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A calculator pattern this time.

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£350 for it.

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At 350. At £350 against you all.

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At 350.

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Against you all. Including the internet.

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-At 360. 370. 380. 390.

-The internet's coming now.

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-One more.

-400.

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At £400 here.

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Online. At £400.

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Are you all done, then, at £400?

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-Last chance.

-That's surprising, isn't it?

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£400, I'll sell it.

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£400. We just got that away.

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-Oh, never mind!

-Wow!

-Never mind.

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-Not to worry.

-You'd think we'd get top money for it down here,

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wouldn't you? You really would.

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There was bidding online. Obviously, it had been spotted.

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Sometimes you've just got to accept that maybe they've found their market value.

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Of course. They're gone now.

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Hopefully gone to a good home.

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I do hope it has.

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Now the items from the high seas.

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Going under the hammer right now is some maritime memorabilia

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belonging to Betty. And we like this story.

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Originally taken in as one lot by our expert, Will,

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we've separated the single-draw telescope, early 19th century,

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and the swordfish rostra.

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It's a shame about the damaged teeth.

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The natural history buffs are real purists and they like things to be

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perfect, as it sort of should be, in a way.

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Wait till she tells you why they've got teeth missing!

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We had a lot of fun sword-fighting with them as children.

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-Sword-fighting, can you believe it?

-As kids.

-Yes.

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-What fun!

-We were the third generation to do it, I think.

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Do you know what, that is fun really, isn't it?

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Until you get hit by one.

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They're sharp. What about Great-Granddad's telescope?

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-Why are you selling that?

-It's been in the drawer for about 125 years.

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Definitely sees no ships in there.

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LAUGHTER OK, let's find out what the bidders think, shall we?

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-Yes.

-Going under the hammer right now.

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This is it. Here's the first of the lots.

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The single-draw brass telescope.

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By Blackford & Imray in London.

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Several bids. I'm bid exactly £60 for it.

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Two bidders. 65. 70. Five. 80.

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Five. At £85 now.

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-At £85 on the left here.

-Wow.

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You all finished at £85?

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Done, then?

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-£85.

-Wow.

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Good result. Good result.

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Right, the swordfish rostra.

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Here we go.

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There they are.

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I'm bid several bids.

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Again, they're all about the same.

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I'm bid £65.

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-That's better.

-70.

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I'm bid 80. Five.

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-At £85. 90.

-That's good.

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-They're going to stay together.

-110.

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120. 130. 130 here.

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Another fiver, if you like. At £130.

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Quite finished, then, at £130?

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That was a great result, considering the damage.

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-That's amazing!

-That's brilliant, isn't it?

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-It is.

-Thank you for bringing them in and looking after them and being

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-such a fun character.

-Looking after them?

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You were. In a way.

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So, £215 for those two lots.

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Not bad at all. And the age of the rostra, which predates 1947,

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means they could be sold at auction.

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So, three lots down and three more to come later on in the programme.

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But before we return to Powderham Castle to find some more treasures

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to put under the hammer, I've been exploring Plymouth's impressive

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maritime history. Along its 30-mile stretch of coastline,

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it boasts a fishing port, a naval dockyard and, of course,

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we can't forget the famous Elizabethan sailor,

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Sir Francis Drake.

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Plymouth, home to the largest naval base in Western Europe.

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Fishing boats have landed their catch at these quays for centuries.

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The harbours launched early navigators,

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who built Plymouth's reputation as one of the greatest maritime cities

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in the world.

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Despite modernisation,

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there's a great story to be told about its seafaring past.

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Before the Blitz, which devastated much of old Plymouth during

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the Second World War, many of the streets in the Barbican looked like this one.

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The city prospered during the Elizabethan period,

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thanks to the exploits of sea captains, merchants,

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fishermen and privateers, who armed their ships

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to fight Britain's enemies.

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In fact, business was so brisk,

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this new street was developed to house those

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whose livelihoods were based around the harbour.

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This is the Elizabethan House and it's one of just a handful of Tudor

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properties that survived the bombing raids of the German air force during

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the Second World War.

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The mayor, back in 1584, called for these new homes to be built.

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He came from a family of merchants and was a close friend of

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Sir Francis Drake. The Devon-born navigator was one of the most famous seamen in the

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Elizabethan era. It would be here in houses like this that captains and

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merchants would plot the safest and the most profitable trade routes.

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Just a stone's throw from the merchants' houses are the Mayflower Steps,

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named after the vessel which took the Pilgrim Fathers to North America,

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to begin a new life in 1620.

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So, Plymouth has a long and illustrious claim on the maritime map.

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But what has made it such a launchpad of global navigation?

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I'm taking to the water with historian Dr Harry Bennett to find out.

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So, what made Plymouth so capable of seafaring endeavours?

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Plymouth Sound is one of the best natural anchorages you could possibly

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hope for. It's a wonderful, wide expanse.

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Problem is, in storms, it gets a little bit hairy.

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So what happens in the early 19th century

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is they build the Plymouth Breakwater.

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It takes them decades to do that but as soon as you've got the

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Plymouth Breakwater, it then provides you with protection from the Westerlies and

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south-westerlies in particular...

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Plymouth Sound is just the ideal anchorage.

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It's a great naval port, a great place to call in out of the storms.

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It makes Plymouth a central location for the projection of British sea power.

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So, this must have been ideal for the Royal Navy.

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How was that developing at the time?

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During the 1500s, following the Armada,

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there's a realisation that Britain's relations with France and Spain are

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increasingly problematic.

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So, in the 1600s,

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it's actually decided it's necessary to build a dockyard somewhere in the

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west to enable the Crown to actually cope with the threat from France and Spain.

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What is the evidence of that legacy?

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Throughout Plymouth Sound,

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we can see fortifications everywhere, from the Tudor period to

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literally the period of the Cold War, and right up to today.

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Plymouth has got so much maritime heritage.

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Some of it is being redeveloped for civilian purposes because, of course,

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as the military have downsized, it's left a legacy of military buildings,

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which are now being used.

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The Royal William Yard is a classic example of the way in which military

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buildings and infrastructure can be reused.

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So that maritime identity, that maritime heritage,

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is absolutely vital to Plymouth's sense of itself

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and its place in the future.

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If you look over there...

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-Yeah.

-You'll see the hole in the wall there.

-I can, yeah.

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The tunnel there. That was used for loading and unloading cattle,

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which will be driven into the Royal William Yard,

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where they would be processed to be turned into salt beef.

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-Gosh!

-And then they'd come back the other way,

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to be loaded on the Royal Navy ships to serve as provisions anywhere around the world.

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Sure. You've got to feed the guys.

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Absolutely! And it's a big enterprise by the 19th century.

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It's a big navy.

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And this is a stunning legacy to the days when Plymouth supplied

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Royal Navy ships on an industrial scale.

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The very impressive Royal William Yard.

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It really says it all about Plymouth's maritime status.

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And I love the architecture, I love that big clock up there,

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which regulated and dominated the lives of the people who worked here.

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Look at this! This is the Royal William Victualling Yard,

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a self-contained food and drink manufacturing complex.

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It was completed in the mid-1830s.

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The 16-acres included a mill, bakery, brewery, and a slaughterhouse,

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capable of dealing with 100 animals each day.

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A workshop for making wooden storage barrels, and homes for officers.

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The large basin could accommodate up to six vessels.

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Now we know the name Samuel Pepys, famous for his diaries,

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writing about life in the 17th century.

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But he also did a lot to improve the Royal Navy,

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working his way up to become Secretary to the Admiralty in 1673.

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And he described the English sailor as loving his belly above anything else.

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For the Navy, success in war and peace depended, to a huge degree,

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on a good supply of food and drink.

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So, this kind of facility was absolutely vital.

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The Royal William Yard proved its worth throughout the 19th century.

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But gradually, its role changed.

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Instead of making pots and pans,

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the buildings were increasingly used as storehouses.

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The yard boosted its staff during the First and Second World Wars and

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luckily survived the Blitz in 1941.

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In 1992, the Royal Navy left.

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Since then the yard has been redeveloped.

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Cattle are no longer brought in through the sea wall and the barrel makers

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are long gone. The Royal William Yard is finding a new role.

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Where the ships once loaded, there is now a marina.

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The yard is a lasting legacy to Plymouth's maritime heritage.

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And where that big clock once dominated workers' lives,

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there's now time to reflect and ponder over what was once a

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vital powerhouse in Plymouth's naval influence.

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Welcome back to Powderham Castle, where everything is shipshape.

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And Captain Mark is at the valuation table.

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Heather, where did you get such a beautiful clock?

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Well, I inherited it from my mum

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but she inherited it from her mum and dad.

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Gosh, that's going back a bit, isn't it?

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We've tried all sorts on the internet to try and find out more about it,

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but we can't find out anything.

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And if we look underneath here, we can see the trademark,

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and Watcombe Pottery mark.

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When I first saw it, I thought it was actually some sort of granite,

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or marble. Because I like what they've done with the pottery.

0:28:030:28:07

They've decorated it to simulate a marble, or granite of some sort.

0:28:070:28:12

It looks like it's actually been carved rather than produced in a mould.

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Then they've painted these wonderful flowers all by hand -

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and all over the back as well.

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The factory was founded in about 1869.

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They employed an artistic director by the name of Charles Brooks,

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who brought the factory up.

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It's a very well-known factory.

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Right throughout the West Country, we've had interest in pottery,

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from Devon right down to Cornwall.

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I think most people would know Watcombe as producing those sort of

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holiday souvenirs. You know, with the little flowers and cottages,

0:28:410:28:45

and funny little sayings on it.

0:28:450:28:47

-We see a lot of those.

-We've got a few of those.

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Have you? Those aren't terribly valuable.

0:28:500:28:52

Not like your clock!

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I love these cherubs on the side.

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They look really happy, don't they?

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-Yes.

-The whole thing sits very comfortably.

0:28:590:29:03

Is it in fashion today?

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-Not really.

-Well,

0:29:050:29:06

I don't think the Victorian period is in fashion but I think this might

0:29:060:29:10

buck the trend a little.

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Because it's Watcombe and because it's an unusual piece by Watcombe,

0:29:120:29:16

this could well have been made for the London market and overseas market.

0:29:160:29:20

I think there'll be collectors around the world who might like it.

0:29:200:29:23

-Oh, right.

-You've got a key, as well, which is nice.

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Does the clock work?

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It did work.

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Whether it's been over...

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That'll be a no, then.

0:29:310:29:33

Not at the moment.

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LAUGHTER

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I think, hopefully,

0:29:360:29:38

it will be a minor piece of work that needs to be done to the movement, but I can

0:29:380:29:43

see people bidding on this,

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so I'd like to try an estimate on it of around £200 to £300.

0:29:440:29:49

-Lovely!

-You like that?

-Yes.

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We'll put a reserve of 200.

0:29:510:29:53

-Lovely!

-I think there might be collectors.

0:29:530:29:55

It's quite an important piece of Watcombe ware, I think,

0:29:550:29:58

and I really like it.

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Well, time will tell.

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It's off to auction, I think, isn't it?

0:30:020:30:04

Yes, yes.

0:30:040:30:06

-Thank you, Heather.

-Thank you, Mark.

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In the grand dining room, Will's uncovered a collection dating back years.

0:30:090:30:14

Well, Jean, I must admit,

0:30:140:30:17

cigarette cards aren't my speciality or passion of mine but I must say

0:30:170:30:21

I've got to be impressed by your collection here.

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Cos as well as what we have on the table,

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you've also brought a bag full of little albums.

0:30:260:30:28

They're all completely full, aren't they?

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-Yes.

-Tell me, have you spent your life collecting these, or...?

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Not me. My husband's cousin collected those.

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The ones in this album here?

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Yes. And all the rest, my husband collected.

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If you imagine that each one of these cards is a packet of

0:30:420:30:45

cigarettes, was he a smoker?

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No, not at all. He never smoked at all.

0:30:460:30:48

He never smoked at all but collected the cigarette cards.

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Well, he must have had a lot of friends that did.

0:30:510:30:53

I think he must have done, yes.

0:30:530:30:55

Well, in those days, it was the done thing, wasn't it?

0:30:550:30:58

Did you share his passion for cigarette cards?

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Did he leaf through them of an evening?

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No, no. He collected all of those before we were married.

0:31:030:31:06

-Oh! Did he?

-Yes.

-And then he had better things to do.

0:31:060:31:09

-Probably.

-Ha-ha!

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-He had another distraction in his life.

-That's right.

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You came along.

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Well, he's held on to them...

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He held on to them all that time.

0:31:170:31:20

I've picked a few out here that are my favourites.

0:31:200:31:23

Here we've got some Chinese...

0:31:230:31:26

characters in traditional costume, carrying out traditional roles.

0:31:260:31:30

Here we've got a farmer.

0:31:300:31:32

Here we've got... I think that's someone who's been a bit naughty.

0:31:320:31:35

He's in the Chinese version of stocks.

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This chap with his sword looks like he's a very important,

0:31:380:31:41

perhaps imperial bodyguard.

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Again, all of these beautifully created, beautifully printed.

0:31:440:31:48

Moving on to something completely different,

0:31:480:31:51

we've got these sailors and seamen, all with their various titles.

0:31:510:31:55

We've got a captain, a surgeon.

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There we are, a bosun as well, with his whistle.

0:31:570:32:00

These as well. Of course, you know,

0:32:000:32:02

everyone likes a motorbike and an aeroplane.

0:32:020:32:05

Look at that! Miss England, off she goes.

0:32:050:32:07

And some battleships

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as well as some of the liners as well, some well-known ones here,

0:32:090:32:13

I'm sure. The market is quite strong for this sort of thing at the moment.

0:32:130:32:17

-Oh, right.

-Do you have any idea of value?

0:32:170:32:19

No idea at all.

0:32:190:32:21

No. Well, I'm going to offer the collection as a whole.

0:32:210:32:24

I think 100 to 150.

0:32:240:32:27

Bearing in mind the album is included,

0:32:270:32:30

would you be happy with £50 as a reserve?

0:32:300:32:32

No, I think a little more.

0:32:320:32:34

-A little bit more. How about 70?

-Uh-hm.

0:32:340:32:37

Yes, I think that'll be fine.

0:32:370:32:38

As long as you're happy with the reserve at £70,

0:32:380:32:41

I'll fix the reserve at £70.

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Hopefully, this collection is going to find a new lease of life,

0:32:430:32:45

a new home, and perhaps it will be leafed through every evening from

0:32:450:32:49

-now on.

-Lovely.

-Jean, it's been a pleasure talking to you.

0:32:490:32:52

-Thank you for coming along.

-Thank you.

0:32:520:32:55

Now, a mysterious object's been brought in and I want to try and

0:32:550:32:58

work out what it is.

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What do you think this is?

0:33:010:33:03

Have a look at that.

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It's heavy.

0:33:060:33:08

Who do you think used that and what was it used for?

0:33:080:33:11

I would say a carpenter.

0:33:110:33:12

-Yes. Chair maker.

-You've got the right action.

0:33:120:33:16

We all got that right action.

0:33:160:33:18

One of our experts said, possibly, it's a shipwright's tool,

0:33:180:33:21

for maybe sort of drawing, like a draw knife on the keel,

0:33:210:33:25

the side of the hull - because there's a blade there and a blade there.

0:33:250:33:28

-Can you feel that?

-Yes.

-Is it a tanner's tool?

0:33:280:33:31

Yes, yes, it is.

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It's a tanner's tool. It's a fleshing knife.

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So, you would put the hide over a log and you would draw this and you

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would draw it and you'd keep turning it and then it could be called leather.

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That's what it is. This dates to around 1860, 1870.

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This is something from bygone days when everything was made by hand.

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It's a lovely thing. So, there you go.

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You got it. Congratulations!

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There you go. You get a handshake.

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Join the team.

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In the music room, Mark's discovered something that would have kept

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sailors busy on long voyages.

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Tony, now I'm not an expert in these, but I think this might be a cribbage board.

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-Correct.

-I mean, it's beautifully made, that's the first thing.

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I don't think I've ever seen a double one.

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Do you think that's for keeping your cards...

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It could easily be, I think. Yes.

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..you know? Can you tell me where you got it from?

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In a mixed lot in an auction.

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I paid something like £7, £10.

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£7! It looks handmade to me.

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-Yes.

-I think the way whoever's turned this brass work,

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it's beautifully done. And I like it.

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I like cribbage boards.

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-They're very collectable. Do you collect them?

-I do, indeed.

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-Yes.

-Do you?

-One of probably 250.

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Are you mad?

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Other people do think so.

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200? Where do you keep them all?

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In my bedroom, in a display cabinet.

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They were made out of every conceivable material.

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You know, you get 17th-century, 18th-century, 19th-century ones...

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There's no end to a cribbage board.

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I think the biggest price made is something like £20,000.

0:35:110:35:14

Good Lord. I hope you're not imagining...?

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I'll get that out of the way straight away.

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No. The interesting thing I like about this is, if we turn it over,

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we've got some scratched writing underneath.

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I can't quite make it out.

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-Have you?

-Yeah.

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I think it's Endecott.

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RN. Royal Navy.

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-And he's a deep-sea diver.

-Indeed.

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And apparently, somewhere in Scotland.

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-Inveraray, Scotland.

-Yeah.

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He dived 300 feet.

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In 1931.

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So, do you think he made this as a

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-ceremonial...

-No doubt.

-..thing?

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"You know, I've got to commemorate this."

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It's made of naval material.

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-It is, isn't it?

-Brass and copper.

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I think it's wonderful.

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But how much is it worth?

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I would have thought between 40 and 60.

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Do you know, I can't believe this.

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If all clients were like you.

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That's what I was thinking. 40-60. 50-70, maybe.

0:36:100:36:13

It's an interesting enough piece.

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Good collecting fields.

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Not only people who collect cribbage boards but also people who collect

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marine items, or maritime history.

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And even people who collect things to do with divers.

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So, we've got quite an interesting collecting group there.

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I suppose we ought to think about a reserve.

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What's the highest score we can have in crib?

0:36:310:36:33

I think it's 31.

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A bit of an odd number for reserve, isn't it?

0:36:350:36:37

-What do you think?

-I think 25.

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Let's put 25 on it, shall we?

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I think it might surpass that.

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In fact, I know it will surpass that.

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It must do. Lovely, Tony. Thank you for bringing it in.

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And I look forward to seeing you at the auction.

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Thank you very much indeed.

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This is where it gets exciting.

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Don't go away. We could have that big one we're promising.

0:36:580:37:01

Anything can happen, you know that, in an auction.

0:37:010:37:03

Have you had a good time, everyone?

0:37:030:37:05

-Yes!

-Well, that's the main thing.

0:37:050:37:06

Without you, we could not make the show work.

0:37:060:37:09

Right, we're going to leave you with a quick reminder of all the items

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we're taken with us.

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There's an ornate clock from local makers Watcombe.

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The varied collection of cigarette cards.

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And the cribbage board with Royal Naval connections.

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As we return to the saleroom,

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it's all eyes on the auctioneer as our item that once belonged to a

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deep-sea diver tests the market.

0:37:350:37:38

Why are you selling this one?

0:37:380:37:40

Well, I looked at the collection and I thought this is different.

0:37:400:37:43

I knew you were coming to Plymouth with its naval base.

0:37:430:37:46

So, this had a naval interest so I just thought it might sell well down here.

0:37:460:37:50

Good correlation, good link.

0:37:500:37:51

We like that. I haven't got a clue how to play cribbage.

0:37:510:37:55

I haven't...

0:37:550:37:56

No. No idea at all.

0:37:560:37:58

But I can see the fascination in collecting because they are

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made out of every conceivable material.

0:38:020:38:04

At the valuation day, we had an estimate of 40-70.

0:38:040:38:08

And now we have a valuation of 30-50 with a reserve of £30.

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So, we need to get £30.

0:38:130:38:15

It's got to do that, hasn't it?

0:38:150:38:18

We're going to find out right now.

0:38:180:38:20

Bronze and brass cribbage board.

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There it is.

0:38:240:38:25

£20 bid for that. At £20?

0:38:250:38:27

£20. Two if you want it.

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Two, five, eight, 30.

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Two. £32.

0:38:300:38:33

Take five, at £32.

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35 online.

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38.

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At £38.

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In the room now.

0:38:410:38:42

All finished at 38?

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Last chance at £38.

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38, the hammer's going...

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Well, there we are. It's over the reserve, isn't it?

0:38:490:38:52

Will there be another cribbage board coming now, with that sort of money?

0:38:520:38:55

-I think there could well be.

-LAUGHTER

0:38:550:38:59

Well, look, I hope you get lucky, OK.

0:38:590:39:01

I really do.

0:39:010:39:02

I'm sure he will.

0:39:030:39:05

And fingers crossed now for our next lot.

0:39:050:39:07

Going under the hammer right now we have that wonderful collection of

0:39:090:39:12

cigarette cards belonging to Jean.

0:39:120:39:14

We have our expert, Will, right here.

0:39:140:39:16

Sadly, Jean can't be with us today, but she is such a big "Flog It!" fan.

0:39:160:39:19

You know, she came all the way from Kent to Powderham Castle.

0:39:190:39:23

She was on holiday at the time. She tied it in with that, really.

0:39:230:39:26

-To come and see us.

-Good idea.

0:39:260:39:28

It's a long way to come to the auction.

0:39:280:39:29

It's too far. So, thumbs up.

0:39:290:39:31

We wish you all the best with this lot.

0:39:310:39:34

Here we go. Putting it to the test.

0:39:340:39:35

It's going under the hammer.

0:39:350:39:38

Here's a little collection of tea cards, and footballers,

0:39:380:39:41

and all sorts in that lot.

0:39:410:39:43

Quite a lot of it. Several bids but I'm bid £55.

0:39:430:39:47

At 55. 60, if you want them. At £55.

0:39:470:39:50

Against you all in the room. At £55, then.

0:39:500:39:53

-They're struggling here, Paul.

-At 55.

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-They struggled.

-Not a sniff of a bid.

0:39:570:40:01

No, right. You're the expert.

0:40:010:40:04

I think you know what is needed now.

0:40:040:40:06

To get on the phone and talk to Jean.

0:40:060:40:08

I will. Well, actually, I'm not far from her.

0:40:080:40:10

-Maybe I could take them back with me.

-That's a good idea.

0:40:100:40:13

-Drop them in.

-And apologise.

-Yes!

0:40:130:40:16

LAUGHTER

0:40:160:40:17

What a shame. Jean, look out, Will's on his way.

0:40:170:40:21

Hopefully, our fortunes will turn

0:40:210:40:23

with the next lot, which should appeal to the local market.

0:40:230:40:26

Well, that's it. Time's up. No, it's not the end of the show.

0:40:260:40:29

Don't go and disappear and make a cup of tea.

0:40:290:40:31

Stay watching. We could have a big surprise.

0:40:310:40:33

Time is up for Heather's gorgeous Victorian clock.

0:40:330:40:36

Which has been mounted in Watcombe pottery.

0:40:360:40:38

South Devon clay and it's beautiful.

0:40:380:40:40

-So over the top, isn't it?

-It's completely Victoriana.

0:40:400:40:43

Weird. Yeah.

0:40:430:40:46

Cherubs, crocuses. Lovely. And it's unusual.

0:40:460:40:48

-I've never seen one.

-No.

0:40:480:40:50

So, we've put 200 to 300 on it.

0:40:500:40:52

And it's a stab in the dark, really.

0:40:520:40:53

See if it's going to fly.

0:40:530:40:55

And if it is going to sell, it is going to sell here down in the West Country where it belongs.

0:40:550:40:59

Let's face it.

0:40:590:41:01

We're going to give it a go for you.

0:41:010:41:03

Ready? Here we go.

0:41:030:41:05

Lot 267 is a Watcombe, South Devon. Glazed terracotta mantel clock,

0:41:050:41:11

unusual thing. And two bids.

0:41:110:41:14

-Great!

-I'm bid £220 for it.

0:41:140:41:16

Always so good. 220.

0:41:160:41:18

£220.

0:41:180:41:20

I'm bid 220, 230 now online.

0:41:200:41:23

At £230.

0:41:230:41:25

240.

0:41:250:41:27

There's some chap in the room...

0:41:270:41:29

260. 270. 280.

0:41:290:41:33

-This is good.

-290. 300.

0:41:330:41:36

And ten. 320.

0:41:360:41:38

330. 340. 350. 360.

0:41:380:41:43

-Yes, he is here.

-370.

0:41:430:41:45

380.

0:41:450:41:48

In the room at £380.

0:41:480:41:50

-380.

-At 380. 390.

0:41:510:41:54

Fresh bidding. 400.

0:41:540:41:57

410. 420. 430.

0:41:570:42:00

440. 450.

0:42:000:42:01

-You're in the money.

-460.

0:42:010:42:03

470. 480.

0:42:030:42:05

490. 500. And ten. 520.

0:42:050:42:09

It's going very well.

0:42:090:42:11

530. 540. 550.

0:42:110:42:14

560. 570. 580.

0:42:140:42:18

590. 600. 620.

0:42:180:42:22

630. 640. 650.

0:42:220:42:25

Oh, my God!

0:42:250:42:27

670. 680.

0:42:270:42:30

690. 700.

0:42:300:42:33

At £700.

0:42:330:42:35

Seated. I'll sell it at 700.

0:42:350:42:37

Heather! £700.

0:42:390:42:41

Brilliant!

0:42:410:42:43

Well, we didn't really do anything.

0:42:430:42:46

He did.

0:42:460:42:47

He found me...

0:42:470:42:49

-at the castle.

-Well, no, you turned up.

0:42:490:42:51

It was all about you turning up. We've all learned something here.

0:42:510:42:54

You see, we've not seen one for sale before and that's exactly what

0:42:540:42:57

they're worth. If you've got something like that,

0:42:570:43:00

we want to flog it for you. Heather, enjoyed it?

0:43:000:43:02

Yes, I have. Absolutely fabulous.

0:43:020:43:04

Can't speak.

0:43:040:43:06

And I hope you have as well.

0:43:060:43:08

Sadly, that's all the time we have but what a way to end.

0:43:080:43:11

And what a surprise. And we don't stop learning, that's the joy of this programme.

0:43:110:43:14

And hopefully, you carry on learning.

0:43:140:43:17

Join us again for many more surprises but, sadly, from Plymouth,

0:43:170:43:19

we have run out of time. It's goodbye.

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