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We've set our valuation tables up

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inside the stunning, the magnificent St Albans Cathedral and Abbey

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in the city that shares the same name,

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in the county of Hertfordshire.

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This church was named after a local man,

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a brave man called Alban, who sacrificed himself

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to save a Christian priest over 1,700 years ago,

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and from that day onwards, people have been coming here to worship.

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It's the oldest place of Christian worship in the country.

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Now, we can only hope that somebody here in this magnificent queue

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has brought along an antique that dates as far back as that.

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Well, we live in hope, don't we? Welcome to Flog It!.

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St Albans Cathedral and Abbey stands on the site

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where Alban gave his life towards the end of the third century AD.

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Inside, the cathedral houses a medieval shrine in his honour,

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and pilgrims still come to worship and pray by it today.

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The building itself has evolved over the centuries,

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which is reflected in its mix of architectural styles,

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from the Saxon period to the Normans,

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through to its great Victorian restoration,

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and the building of a 20th-century chapterhouse.

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Well, this happy crowd seem eager to get inside to learn more

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about the history of this magnificent building,

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and, of course, to meet up with our experts, to pick their brains,

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to ask that all-important question, which is...?

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-ALL:

-What's it worth?

-And if you're happy with the valuation,

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-what are you going to do? ALL:

-Flog it!

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Right, let's get inside. Come on, follow me, everyone.

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Our experts are already hard at work,

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and we haven't even got through the cathedral doors yet,

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but James Lewis is already imparting his wisdom.

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-Lovely shape, isn't it?

-It is.

-Yeah.

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China is doing very well at the moment. Very well.

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And it looks as though Claire Rawle may have spotted her first item.

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That's quite an unusual cribbage board marker, isn't it,

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with the little soldiers in it?

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Don't think it's terribly old, is it?

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It's quite nice, though, isn't it? It's quite fun.

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So, is it round one to Claire, or is James still a contender?

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Hello, James. What have you got there?

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It's a boxing programme, Anglo-American.

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-Oh, wow.

-All signed.

-OK. Boxing, hey?

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-Is this going to turn into a fight, do you think?

-It already has.

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-HE LAUGHS

-Oh, OK.

-Do you want to find your own lot? Go on.

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Yeah, all right, I'll go up here, shall I?

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Whilst everyone pours into the breathtaking nave

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of St Albans Cathedral and Abbey and makes themselves comfortable,

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let's take a look at what's coming up later.

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James comes across an unusual picture...

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-Sand pictures.

-Are they sand pictures?

-Yeah.

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Just feel that.

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Oh, yes!

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..and one owner gets some great news.

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-Were you surprised at the valuation?

-Extremely.

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I thought they might have been about £100, or something.

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Something along those lines.

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And I'll be paying a visit here to Knebworth House,

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a magnificent Grade II Tudor stately mansion,

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probably best known for hosting its rock concerts.

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I'm here to uncover a little-known story

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about one of its bravest inhabitants,

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Lady Constance Lytton,

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who put her own wellbeing aside to stand up for her beliefs.

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But before that, fortune is smiling on our crowd today

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because they get to queue

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here in the nave of St Albans Cathedral and Abbey,

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and this nave is spectacular, isn't it? It's 85m in length,

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it's the longest nave in the country,

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and that is some view.

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I'm in awe of this building. Not just its history,

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not just the tales of bravery I hear,

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but also looking at the images -

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the wall paintings telling a story of Jesus's sacrifice,

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many images of the Crucifixion

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on all of these wonderful Gothic columns.

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James Lewis gets our valuations off to a great start

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with a tale of derring-do.

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Alison, I have to say, you don't strike me as being a pipe smoker.

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Let's have a look. Give it a go.

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-HE LAUGHS

-No, it's not you, is it?

-No.

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-Why have you got a pipe?

-It belonged to my grandfather.

-OK.

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He was a pipe smoker and he had a collection of pipes.

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-So, only one left in the family?

-Well, yes.

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-Nothing as carved as this. Just ordinary pipes, but...

-Yeah.

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-Why did he have this, do you know?

-No idea. No, no.

-OK.

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-Do you know who he is?

-No, I've no idea.

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Well, it looks like an explorer.

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That sort of woollen wrap around his head and the big goggles.

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This guy, I think, is a chap called Frank Wild.

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Now, Frank Wild was a great explorer.

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He went on some of the biggest expeditions in British history.

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The first one was on board Discovery with Scott in 1901 -

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Scott's first Antarctic expedition.

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Then he went with Shackleton in 1908.

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-Luckily for him, he didn't go with Scott in 1912.

-Right.

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Otherwise, he may well have never returned.

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But what he did do was go back on the trans-Antarctic journey in 1914,

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and that was, of course, the expedition where

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the ship was caught in the ice and they were out there for two years.

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-Total disaster, but he made it back.

-Right.

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-So, that's who we think he is.

-Mm.

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I've done a bit of research. What do you think to him?

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-Wow.

-That's Frank Wild.

-Wow.

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Yeah, he had a beard rather than a moustache.

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I guess, if they're going to do an image of him,

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-they would have him wearing all the kit...

-Smartened up, yes.

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-..but they would smarten him up.

-Yes, yes.

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I think that's probably why we're looking at that.

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-But I think that image is uncanny. I think it's got to be him.

-Yes.

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I've never seen a pipe like it.

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In terms of value, if I said £40 to £60,

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-would you be happy with that?

-Mm, a little bit more.

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-HE CHUCKLES

-OK.

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-Well, what are you thinking?

-50 to 80?

-Yeah?

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-With a reserve of 50.

-Are you happy with that?

-Yes, that's fine.

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-Do you know, I wouldn't be surprised if it made £100.

-Right.

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But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't sell at all.

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-HE LAUGHS

-It's one of those things that,

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-in the right sale...

-Yes.

-..I think it would do very well.

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-Let's take it along and see if it's the right sale.

-OK.

-Fingers crossed.

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What a wonderful story.

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Now, remember those charming games that Claire spotted in the queue?

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It's time to take a closer look.

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Richard and Barbara, it's lovely to see you today

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in this magnificent, holy place.

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And what have you brought in? Gambling items of vice!

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My goodness, I hope we're not struck down in here.

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Cribbage marker boards and some dominoes.

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So, you tell me a bit about them. How did you get hold of them?

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We got them in a car-boot.

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We sometimes go to car-boots just to have a look around.

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And we like quirky things, and it's just caught our eye.

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So, how long ago did you find these?

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About three-and-a-half, four years ago.

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-What did you pay for them?

-£20.

-Oh, OK. Reasonable. Well done.

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And do you play crib or dominoes? Have you used them at all?

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-We do, sometimes, yeah.

-Oh, OK. So, you understand crib, do you?

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-Not crib, but dominoes.

-Yes, I can do the dominoes!

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-So, you've decided now you're going to part with them, or...?

-Yeah.

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-Yeah, yeah?

-We've redecorated.

-OK.

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They don't really fit in with the decor any more, so...

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-Oh, dear!

-I know, everybody says it, but it's time, perhaps,

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to move them on to somebody who really will enjoy them.

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They've been cast off. They are very collectable.

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Cribbage, as a game, has been around since the early 1600s.

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It's an old game. Dominoes was more a sort of 18th-century game.

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So, both games, actually, have been around for centuries,

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and very, very widely played still today.

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But these don't date, actually, from quite that early.

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You're looking at, I think, a set that was probably made in the '70s,

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late '70s, that sort of period.

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The dominoes are made out of a type of plastic.

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But what I really like are the little military figures...

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-Quirky.

-..because they are painted die-cast...

-Yes.

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-Right.

-..like the Britain soldiers.

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And I think they probably were made to be used with this set.

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And, of course, these little chaps are the markers.

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With crib, you have to move them up and down the board, don't you?

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That's right, yes.

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And then the person that gets back to the beginning is the winner.

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So, I think they are actually quite collectable items.

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But how about you, Barbara?

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What do you think they might be worth?

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I think we were thinking somewhere about £40 to £60,

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-maybe, for them, hopefully.

-OK, OK.

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-Well, that seems quite sensible.

-Yeah, yeah.

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It's not a million miles away from what I was thinking.

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I was pitching it a little bit lower -

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maybe sort of 30 to 50.

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Would you want to put a reserve on them to protect them on the day,

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-do you think, perhaps?

-I don't think so, no.

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If someone will buy them at a reasonable price,

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-and they'll go to someone who'll enjoy them.

-Yeah,

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they will go to a collector. That's very sensible of you

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because I think they'll find their own price on the day at the auction.

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I mean, that's what auctions are all about.

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So, if we go forward with that estimate,

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but perhaps leave them without a reserve?

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-That's fine, yeah.

-Excellent. It's been a pleasure seeing them,

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and I look forward to seeing you at the auction.

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Now, James has found a decorative piece that is just as pleasing.

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We are here in this magnificent building,

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surrounded by some of the earliest sculptures in stone,

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with wonderful carving everywhere,

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and you've brought your own little bit of wonderful carving,

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and I love it!

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-There's one thing about this, Rosemary.

-Mm-hm?

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The combination of bronze and white marble

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that tells us a particular date.

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-Any ideas?

-I thought it was late 19th century.

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-I think it's slightly later than that.

-Is it? Oh, right.

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Looking at her, the way her hair is, her features, I think she's 1920s.

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Oh, right. Fair enough, yeah.

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When I see marble and bronze together,

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I think it's a wonderful, wonderful combination.

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This came from my grandmother.

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-When I was a little girl, I absolutely loved her...

-Right.

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..cos I thought she had such a pretty face and lovely hair,

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and she was very tactile.

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-When she died, it was left to me.

-Oh!

-Yeah.

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So, she knew you loved her, at that time?

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Yeah, absolutely. Very, very pretty. Very, very pretty little woman.

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Have you had a good look over her for a mark, a signature?

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Yeah, I can't find any marks or anything on her at all.

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-How long have you had her?

-1963.

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Ah. Well, there's a signature.

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-Good grief!

-HE CHUCKLES

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And it says G Merlin,

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and he's signed it on the marble base,

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which was something that was very fashionable

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in the 1920s and '30s, especially in France.

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And it's an artist that does come up in the salerooms occasionally,

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but comes up in various forms and various sizes.

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Whenever you're looking at a female form from this period,

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bearing in mind the '20s was quite a risque time,

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they were making lots of nudes and nude dancers, scantily clad,

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the odd bit of material here and there,

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hardly concealing anything.

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Those, as I'm sure you can imagine, are the most popular of all of them.

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So, as soon as you've got a bronze and marble combination like this,

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where she's almost pensive,

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and, as you say, could almost have been 19th century...

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-Yeah.

-..in her pose,

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-then they're not worth such a lot.

-Oh, right.

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So, the same artist can command different prices.

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And in terms of valuation, these figures, these busts make,

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week in, week out, £200 to £300, something like that.

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Occasionally, they sort of fall at 150,

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-but I wouldn't want to see her make that.

-OK.

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-So, if we said £180 firm reserve...

-Right.

-..would you be happy?

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-Absolutely, yes.

-Sure?

-Yeah, positive.

-Great, let's do it.

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Yeah, that's great. Lovely. Thank you very much.

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A Flog It! valuation day is a great experience.

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Why not come along and find out what your items are worth?

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Now, it's over to Claire's table.

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Well, Alan, we're in this ancient historical site

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and what do you bring in? Science fiction!

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-Wonderful! So, were these yours?

-They were my son's.

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-Right.

-And they come from... In the '70s, I bought them.

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-Does he know you're here?

-He does now.

-Oh, OK.

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THEY LAUGH

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-Have you got a lot more of these at home?

-Yes, a loft full.

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Oh, right, OK. I have a sneaking suspicion, though,

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-you actually quite like them yourself.

-I do, actually.

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The thing is, with toys, they're a very nostalgic thing,

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so people tend to buy into things they remember playing with.

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It does also make you feel rather old

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when suddenly toys you played with

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become collectors' items, I can tell you.

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Now, with robots, they really started making robots in the '50s,

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so it's the '50s ones that make far more, whereas you say this is 1970s.

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-Yes.

-He's Japanese made, which a lot of them were.

-Yeah.

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-Battery operated, and he does work.

-Yes.

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-So he wanders forward. Quite fun. Ooh, I say, he's flashing.

-Yes.

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But the nice thing is, you have the box.

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-Now, the box - not looking too good.

-No.

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-But you've got the box and it's complete.

-Yes.

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There are people that collect robots and people that love Doctor Who.

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So, here we have Doctor Who game,

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and you obviously looked after it well because, hey presto,

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-it's pretty well complete, isn't it?

-Oh, yes, it is, yes.

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So, we have our silver Daleks and our gold Daleks,

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-all with plungers attached.

-Yes.

-OK.

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No bits missing, presumably all the counters and things.

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And I assume that you just parade them round the...

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-Yes, you go round there.

-..round the track.

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And Doctor Who has been such a cult show for so long.

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I mean, I remember watching it when I was quite small, a long time ago.

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So, there is a big collecting market for Doctor Who

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so, again, a very collectible item.

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-You've obviously decided to sell them.

-I have.

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-I think we need to talk value.

-Please.

-OK, so the robot.

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He's a little bit later, so he's not going to be hundreds of pounds.

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-I think £60 to £80, £50 reserve.

-Mm-hm.

-Is that good?

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-Yes, that's fine.

-Excellent.

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However, Daleks, I think this is actually quite unusual.

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I haven't seen this game before and I certainly haven't seen

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anything so complete as this and, again, it's Doctor Who.

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-I think this will be a bit more.

-Oh, right.

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-I think it's going to be £80 to £120.

-Good God.

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And I'd put a £70 reserve on it. Is that good?

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-That's fine, yes.

-Excellent. Right, well, I can't resist it.

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-Shall I set him going again?

-Go on.

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-He gets a bit excited.

-He does, yes.

-Argh!

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SHE LAUGHS

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I'm glad you're having fun, Claire!

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Before we head off the auction,

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there's something I'd like to show you.

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The ancient Romans improved the quality of life for many Britons

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by introducing luxuries and comforts, such as central heating,

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but they also brought lively entertainment too,

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in places such as this theatre.

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Verulamium's Roman theatre,

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the remains of which are in St Albans today,

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was built around 140 AD and is unique in Britain,

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as it's the only one of its kind to have a stage.

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All others are amphitheatres.

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Roman performers strutting around the stage would have worn masks

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very much like this one. However, that's not an ancient Roman mask.

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It is Romanesque in style,

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but it's a modern creation made by a local theatre company,

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here in St Albans, called Trestle, who have adopted

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the ancient practice of mask-wearing into their performance.

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They've made it their own, they've made it unique.

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Trestle is over 30 years old.

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It was formed in 1981 as a touring theatre company

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who worked with masks and other forms of physical theatre.

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Nearly 20 years later, they gave up their nomadic existence

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when they moved into this converted hospital chapel in St Albans,

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which they named the Trestle Arts Base.

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Trestle are one of the first touring theatre companies

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to create their own home, and they've been here ever since.

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I'm meeting artistic director Emily Gray

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to find out more about the company

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and, hopefully, get my hands on some of their extraordinary masks.

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So, tell me, how do you incorporate

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the ancient performance of mask-using in your work?

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Masks were obviously used right back at the beginning of theatre,

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so the Greeks used masks. They used them to seem bigger than life,

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-so people could play gods, men could play women.

-Sure.

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Massive amphitheatres, you could see the characters.

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Then the Romans used them. They took them from the Greeks

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and they started making much more stock characters of masks,

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so you'd start to recognise the hero character or the villain

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and that then developed into the 16th-century commedia dell'arte.

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-Sure.

-So, the half-mask characters,

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and they became terribly popular across Europe.

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When we use our masks,

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they're also very, very strong characters that come in.

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And the whole idea of the performance is, it's very immediate.

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It's about engaging your audience. There's no fourth wall there.

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It's the audience and the masks,

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so it's all about eyeballing that audience, improvising with them.

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I like this chap. He's a mohican, sort of, a punk. Look at that.

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-This is Maurice the Mohican. Get his mohican to stand up properly.

-Ah!

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THEY LAUGH

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And he is one of our oldest masks, so he's from the early '80s,

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-of course the era of punk.

-He's brilliant.

-He's brilliant.

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He was in a show called Hanging Around,

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which took place on a park bench

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and it had your punk and your Boy Scout and your mod.

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It was very '80s.

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These masks here are from the older shows

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and from the performances, where there's huge detail

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in the character in these.

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These ones are more for our educational work.

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There are eight of these masks, the basic masks,

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-and they're very clear expressions, almost cartoon.

-They are.

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We all know that this guy is happy.

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And then you get the slightly more complicated set,

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the intermediate ones, who have a bit more going on in them,

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-a bit more expression in there.

-There's a worried look there.

-Yes.

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Then we get to the advanced masks,

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so these are more like the show masks.

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-That's a bit more getting towards a human face.

-I can see that, yeah.

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The most recent ones we've created are actually these ones.

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-These ones talk to you, you see. Ha-ha!

-Oh, yes!

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So, that's a devil, that's the devil mask.

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I'm pleased you did that, not me.

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For years, we didn't speak as a company, you see.

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-It was completely mimed, then?

-Yeah, completely. No sound.

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Which meant we could travel anywhere and people understood us

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anywhere we went. There was no basis in language.

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But with these half masks, we can look at Shakespearean archetypes,

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we look at the Greeks, we can do storytelling more,

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so these are very fun

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-cos they obviously bring in the voice.

-They do.

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Alongside Trestle's professional performances

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and their educational work, the company also makes sets of masks

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from their studio in the Trestle Arts Base,

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which are then sold all over the world.

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Joseph, who works in the studio, is showing me how they are made.

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We take this resin mould and we put it in the vacuum former.

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So that gets lowered in. Then we take a piece of plastic...

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..heat it up...

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PAUL LAUGHS

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-Then give it a knock on the head so...

-Sure.

-..the mould falls out.

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And then we'll go over here and cut it out.

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So we do the eye holes and then the elastic holes

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and then that's it done for this...

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-And then you get creative.

-Mm-hm.

-Come on, let's do it.

-OK.

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Talk me through what happens next.

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What we do next is cut these out

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cos they've not really got a good shape at the moment.

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That's very quick.

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-That's taken off all the rough edges there.

-Who do you sell these to?

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We primarily sell to schools and drama groups and things like that.

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-All over the world.

-All over the world, yeah.

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We send internationally as well as the UK.

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-And how many of these do you make a day, then?

-A day?

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-The record's probably about 100 masks in a day.

-I'm very impressed.

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-Right, I want to decorate one. Can I decorate one?

-Sure.

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OK, this is the mischievous mask in the basic set

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-and this is what it will look like when it's finished.

-OK.

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A bit more blue.

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-How's that?

-It looks good.

-Is that all right?

-Yeah, it looks good.

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It's nearly there, isn't it?

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The only thing now we need to do

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is put some elastic on it and it's ready to go.

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Right, here's my mask. It's nearly dry.

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I think, before I leave here,

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I should give it a test drive, don't you?

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And Emily has kindly agreed to run through one of her workshops.

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So now it's time to dim those lights.

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I'm going to pop this on you.

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You're going to look at me, not look at the audience yet.

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Here's your hat. Here we go.

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Great. Round I go. And let's see you. Hello!

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Ha-ha! Are you going to say hello to everybody?

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Look at all your audience here. There we go.

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How are you feeling today? Show me in your body how you're feeling.

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Oh, look who's here. Look who's here.

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Um, so you have been very naughty, haven't you? I know.

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You've really upset her. Are you going to say sorry?

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Oh, look, he's going to say sorry to you. Is that...?

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Do you believe him? No.

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You need to apologise, show us that you're really, really sorry.

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And I want to see you being really true to...

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Oh, are you going to have a hug? Oh. Oh, how lovely.

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They could be together. Happy? Good. Oh, you're excited now.

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Really happy! Really happy, great, great.

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Let's see you together in a final pose.

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Looking happy together!

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Oh, careful of him. Careful there. There we go. Hoorah! Well done.

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We've had a brilliant day so far.

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I've got my favourites, you've probably got yours.

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Let's find out what the bidders think.

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While we make our way over to the saleroom,

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here's a quick recap, just to jog your memory,

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of all the items we're taking with us.

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James believed that Alison's wooden pipe

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may have been fashioned on the intrepid polar explorer Frank Wild,

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but what will the bidders make of it?

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Will the domino and cribbage sets, with their die-cast soldiers,

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march away at the auction room?

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Rosemary's always loved her 1920s marble and bronze bust,

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but now it's time for this pretty lady to find a new home.

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Dragged out of the attic, Alan's 1970s robot and Daleks board game

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are sure to exterminate some bids in the saleroom.

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We are staying in Hertfordshire for our sale,

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but are relocating to the small town of Tring,

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which borders the Chiltern Hills.

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As well as attracting visitors

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who want to explore the nearby countryside,

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this pretty market town has another draw -

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the beautiful Victorian Tring Natural History Museum.

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Hopefully, the bidders will find our lots as enticing

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as the nearby attractions,

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as we head over to Tring Market Auctions,

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where Stephen Hearn is on the rostrum.

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Remember, whether you're buying or selling, at every auction,

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there is always commission and VAT to pay. Here, sellers pay

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between 10% and 15%. First under the hammer

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is the 1920s bust.

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Rosemary, good luck. I love Rosemary's lot. It's so pretty.

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It's a combination of marble and bronze.

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It's a beautiful, beautiful little bust.

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Now, will we get that £200 to £300, and why are you selling it?

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I'm selling it because, if it sells,

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I'd like to put money towards an antique cat.

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-An antique cat?

-I like cats. I collect cats.

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Ooh, a bronze cat? Something like that?

0:25:090:25:10

Possibly. Depending.

0:25:100:25:12

-Do you have real cats, as well?

-Oh, I have real cats.

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-You're a cat lover?

-Oh, yes.

-Oh! Well, good luck.

-Thank you.

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-Good luck.

-Thank you!

-It's going under the hammer now.

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That's a bit different, that one, isn't it? It's a rather nice one.

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Inscribed by Merlin. There it is.

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Alabaster, probably 1920s, something like that.

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A couple of hundred pounds for it? 200 for it? 150 for it? Yes. Surely!

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Yes? 60? 70?

0:25:370:25:39

80? 90 now.

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Yes? 190, we've got.

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Are we going to be...? That's 200, we're bid now.

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200, thank you. 210, yes or no? 210, I have.

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220, is it? At 220.

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-Getting there. Crawling.

-Come on, Rosemary.

-And 30?

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And 40? Is it 240?

0:25:560:25:59

And 50 now. Is it going to be 60?

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Sure? 250 has it, then.

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-Brilliant, brilliant!

-Good.

-And you are out. £250, then.

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-Yes! £250.

-Brilliant.

-Mid-estimate.

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Do you know, that was beautiful, wasn't it? It was quality.

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-And as we always say on the show, quality always sells.

-Mm.

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Well done, you.

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That result should go a good way towards an antique cat for Rosemary.

0:26:230:26:28

Next, let's see if we can make a decent profit

0:26:280:26:31

for Richard and Barbara on their cribbage and domino games,

0:26:310:26:34

which they bought for £20 at a car-boot sale.

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Fingers crossed we get these away top end of the estimate.

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You see, the thing is, there's no reserve.

0:26:400:26:42

I know they're going to sell,

0:26:420:26:43

but I really like to see things with reserves,

0:26:430:26:46

and I know it's an auctioneer thing.

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-You're confident, though, aren't you?

-Yes, yeah.

0:26:470:26:49

Well, they're just quirky items, unusual.

0:26:490:26:51

-If you like playing games, it's great, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:26:510:26:54

We're walking a tightrope here. You know that, don't you?

0:26:540:26:57

Let's hope we get to the other side.

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Here we go. It's going under the hammer now.

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Right, now we've got a domino stand. Rather nice, those.

0:27:010:27:05

And a cribbage board with the guardsmen.

0:27:050:27:08

Are we going to get 60 for it?

0:27:080:27:09

Or 50? Or 40?

0:27:090:27:11

-We've got 40 for it.

-Yes!

0:27:110:27:14

-40? Excellent!

-Have we got 50? Yes?

0:27:140:27:17

-50? I've got 50. And five now, then.

-Great.

0:27:170:27:21

If there's no more, then, at £50, then it's going. The room's out.

0:27:210:27:25

It's going down and I shall sell it for the £50, then.

0:27:250:27:28

Thank you very much.

0:27:280:27:29

-£50. Brilliant. Well done.

-That's great.

-We got the top end.

0:27:290:27:33

Who was worried about no reserve? THEY LAUGH

0:27:330:27:36

What a great profit on a car-boot bargain.

0:27:360:27:39

Finally, remember that pipe

0:27:390:27:41

which James thought might be the explorer Frank Wild?

0:27:410:27:44

Well, it's time for it to go under the hammer.

0:27:440:27:47

-It was your grandad's or your dad's?

-Yes, Grandad's.

0:27:470:27:50

-It was Grandad's. He collected pipes, didn't he?

-Yes.

0:27:500:27:52

-You don't want it any more? You're decluttering?

-Yes.

-OK.

0:27:520:27:54

Anyway, look, good luck, both of you.

0:27:540:27:56

This is going under the hammer now.

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A pipe, the wooden bowl carved as an explorer.

0:27:590:28:03

Is he one of the Arctic explorers? There you are.

0:28:030:28:06

Are we going to get to £100 for it, or £50?

0:28:060:28:09

Yes, we'll get to 50, won't we?

0:28:090:28:11

Yes. 50, I'm bid, then.

0:28:110:28:13

And five for you? And 60? And five? And 70?

0:28:130:28:17

And five? At £80, we're bid. 85? 90? Five? 100?

0:28:170:28:22

£100, then. 100, I'm bid.

0:28:220:28:24

-Well, this is good.

-Yes.

-110? And 20?

0:28:240:28:27

110's got it, then.

0:28:270:28:29

£110. Thank you.

0:28:290:28:32

-Yes! Hammer's gone down 110.

-Yeah.

0:28:320:28:34

-I was thinking around 70 to 80.

-I think that's a great price for it.

0:28:340:28:36

-100 - top price, top price.

-Very good, yes.

0:28:360:28:38

Right, our next lot - well, we've got two lots coming up -

0:28:410:28:44

will suit all you modern-day collectable enthusiasts.

0:28:440:28:47

It's 20th-century modern. We've got a robot, 1970s robot,

0:28:470:28:50

and a Daleks board game belonging to Alan, who can't be with us.

0:28:500:28:53

Grandad's not here, but we've got the grandchildren,

0:28:530:28:56

Anya and Ashley.

0:28:560:28:57

-Yes.

-OK, I'd be playing with this robot, if I was you.

0:28:570:28:59

I'd be thinking, "Grandad, I want that robot for later on in life,"

0:28:590:29:02

-because that will look great...

-No...

0:29:020:29:05

-Didn't want a robot?

-No, I don't want a robot.

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I'd go for the robot and not the Daleks game. What about you?

0:29:070:29:10

Definitely Daleks. I'm a massive Whovian.

0:29:100:29:13

Right, it's going under the hammer right now.

0:29:130:29:15

We're going to find out what everyone thinks of the robot.

0:29:150:29:17

Here we go.

0:29:170:29:19

A battery-operated super robot.

0:29:200:29:22

How about that? £100 for him? 100?

0:29:220:29:24

Or 50? Yes. 60. 70. 80.

0:29:240:29:28

Let's go like a robot.

0:29:280:29:30

90. 100. And 10. And 20.

0:29:300:29:32

-Wow.

-30.

0:29:320:29:34

130 for him, then. He's going for £130.

0:29:340:29:37

GAVEL BANGS

0:29:370:29:39

-That went quickly.

-Yes!

0:29:390:29:41

One down, one to go. If this one doesn't sell, I will exterminate.

0:29:410:29:45

There you are. War of the Daleks.

0:29:470:29:49

40 perhaps? 30 perhaps?

0:29:490:29:52

Yes! 30 I'm bid for the Daleks. At 30 we're bid now.

0:29:520:29:55

Are you going to be 5, sir?

0:29:550:29:57

And 40. And 5. We close at £45. 50 perhaps?

0:29:570:30:02

No? At £45, then.

0:30:020:30:05

-Ah! No Doctor Who fans here.

-I thought it would have done more.

0:30:050:30:08

But you said you'd like that one.

0:30:080:30:11

Yeah, I wish I'd brought money with me now.

0:30:110:30:14

But, hey, you can take it home with you.

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Thank you anyway for standing in for him.

0:30:160:30:18

Well, there you are.

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We're coming back here later on in the show, so don't go away.

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We could have that big surprise.

0:30:240:30:26

But before I head back to the valuation day,

0:30:260:30:28

while we're here in the area,

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I took a trip to the beautiful Knebworth House,

0:30:300:30:32

which is about 20 miles from here.

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Knebworth House is an architectural masterpiece.

0:30:440:30:46

It dates from the Tudor period,

0:30:460:30:48

though you'd be forgiven for thinking it was built much later,

0:30:480:30:51

as the original 16th-century red brick

0:30:510:30:54

was concealed beneath turrets, domes, gargoyles

0:30:540:30:57

and stained glass in the 19th century,

0:30:570:31:00

which turned this stately home into a Gothic Victorian fantasy.

0:31:000:31:05

But however fascinating the architecture is,

0:31:100:31:13

Knebworth is best known

0:31:130:31:14

as one of the country's premier concert venues.

0:31:140:31:17

Over 100 major artists have played here

0:31:170:31:20

since the estate threw open its gates in 1974,

0:31:200:31:25

with kings and queens of pop and rock topping the bill,

0:31:250:31:28

such as the Rolling Stones, Ella Fitzgerald and Queen.

0:31:280:31:32

But I'm not here to admire this architectural treat

0:31:320:31:36

or delve into Knebworth's past rock history.

0:31:360:31:39

I'm here to learn more about a story of one of its past residents.

0:31:390:31:42

In the early part of the 20th century,

0:31:420:31:44

Lady Constance Lytton put her own health at risk

0:31:440:31:47

to stand up for what she passionately believed in -

0:31:470:31:50

the right for women to vote.

0:31:500:31:52

During the second part of the 19th century,

0:31:550:31:58

women in the United Kingdom began campaigning for women's suffrage,

0:31:580:32:02

the right of women to stand for electoral office and to vote.

0:32:020:32:07

Lady Constance Lytton, who spent her formative years here

0:32:070:32:10

in the sumptuous surroundings of Knebworth House,

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played a vital role in the movement.

0:32:130:32:16

To find out more, I'm meeting Clare Fleck,

0:32:160:32:18

who has been Knebworth's trusted archivist for over 20 years.

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What type of person was Lady Constance?

0:32:220:32:26

Well, she was born into an aristocratic family,

0:32:260:32:28

so very privileged lifestyle.

0:32:280:32:30

And some of the things she'd done would have been quite conventional

0:32:300:32:33

for a young lady, such as her watercolours.

0:32:330:32:35

She did watercolour art.

0:32:350:32:37

She was also very musical. She was a sensitive soul, very shy.

0:32:370:32:41

Didn't like the public aspects of her upbringing.

0:32:410:32:44

She played the piano beautifully,

0:32:440:32:46

would loved to have been a professional pianist.

0:32:460:32:48

There's some lovely cartoons by her brother-in-law,

0:32:480:32:52

Edwin Lutyens, of her playing the piano here.

0:32:520:32:54

And she loved doing ordinary things.

0:32:540:32:56

She liked to do what she calls in her diaries "house-maiding".

0:32:560:33:01

She loved cleaning, she loved flower-arranging,

0:33:010:33:03

doing the accounts, mending hats, mending her clothes.

0:33:030:33:07

She was a very practical person.

0:33:070:33:09

She didn't like the posh side of life.

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How did Lady Constance get involved in the suffragette movement?

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In 1908, she met the suffragettes

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through helping with the girls' club that she was helping to run

0:33:190:33:22

with a little inheritance of her own,

0:33:220:33:25

and she was invited to go with them to a seaside house for a holiday.

0:33:250:33:28

There were two strong suffragettes there who suggested she join them.

0:33:280:33:33

But she didn't just willy-nilly say, "Yes, that's for me."

0:33:330:33:37

She went away, she read the literature

0:33:370:33:39

and made a conscious decision that, yes, this was a very valid cause

0:33:390:33:42

and that she would join the suffragettes.

0:33:420:33:45

There were two different lines of attack

0:33:450:33:47

in the fight for votes for women.

0:33:470:33:49

The first was represented by the National Union of Women's Suffrage,

0:33:490:33:53

which used only peaceful means of protest,

0:33:530:33:56

whereas the Women's Social and Political Union

0:33:560:33:59

used militant and sometimes even violent means

0:33:590:34:03

to get its message across.

0:34:030:34:05

So, she decided to join the cause,

0:34:050:34:07

but it was a while before she actually signed up

0:34:070:34:09

to the Women's Social and Political Union,

0:34:090:34:11

which was the militant side of the cause.

0:34:110:34:13

Con decided that the militant way was the way she could make her mark.

0:34:130:34:17

But she was never violent in a serious way.

0:34:170:34:21

She'd throw stones at a car or break a window -

0:34:210:34:23

minor violence just to attract attention

0:34:230:34:25

-and ultimately get arrested.

-And she did.

-She did.

0:34:250:34:28

The first demonstration she went on took her by surprise

0:34:280:34:31

cos it was a very violent business.

0:34:310:34:33

She was pushed and shoved and squeezed by the police,

0:34:330:34:36

and she was not strong herself.

0:34:360:34:38

She had a weak heart and never had strong health,

0:34:380:34:41

so it was really a traumatic experience for her,

0:34:410:34:43

but this is what she wanted.

0:34:430:34:45

She wanted to be involved with the ordinary suffragettes.

0:34:450:34:47

-Did she spend time in prison?

-Oh, certainly.

0:34:470:34:50

Altogether, she had four imprisonments.

0:34:500:34:52

The first time, in 1910, she went to Holloway

0:34:520:34:54

and she wasn't treated as an ordinary suffragette.

0:34:540:34:57

-She was Lady Constance Lytton...

-Yeah.

0:34:570:34:59

..so she had preferential treatment, her health was checked,

0:34:590:35:02

so her heart - her weak heart - was identified,

0:35:020:35:05

and she was put on the hospital wing, which she didn't want.

0:35:050:35:08

She had two imprisonments like that,

0:35:080:35:09

and for her third occasion, she took drastic action.

0:35:090:35:12

She went well away from London,

0:35:120:35:14

disguised herself as a working seamstress, as Jane Warton.

0:35:140:35:17

She even rejoined the WSPU as Jane Warton.

0:35:170:35:21

So, when she was arrested there,

0:35:210:35:23

-Jane Warton's health wasn't checked.

-Mm.

0:35:230:35:25

She was an ordinary prisoner, a third-degree prisoner,

0:35:250:35:28

and went on the ordinary wing. So, when she went on hunger strike,

0:35:280:35:32

she was then brutally force-fed, as the suffragettes were.

0:35:320:35:36

That's what she wanted, but it was a brutal process.

0:35:360:35:39

She had ill-health afterwards, but went on working for the cause.

0:35:390:35:42

She worked in the headquarters of WSPU, went on lecturing.

0:35:420:35:45

Even though she felt she was a very poor speaker,

0:35:450:35:48

she really inspired people through her lectures and talks.

0:35:480:35:51

So, how did Constance's story end?

0:35:510:35:53

Did she know that she made a big contribution and a big difference?

0:35:530:35:58

I think she appreciated her part because she wrote a book,

0:35:580:36:01

a very moving book called Prison & Prisoners.

0:36:010:36:03

We've got a copy, which is an account of, it says here,

0:36:030:36:07

"Some personal experiences by Lady Constance Lytton

0:36:070:36:10

"and Jane Warton, spinster."

0:36:100:36:12

-She's got both sides.

-Absolutely.

-Yeah.

0:36:120:36:14

It's the story of her part in the "votes for women" cause,

0:36:140:36:18

her prison experiences. It also tells us a lot about her.

0:36:180:36:21

The book, which was very popular -

0:36:210:36:23

the first 2,000 edition was sold out within a week,

0:36:230:36:26

and it was published internationally...

0:36:260:36:28

And, again, it shows us not just prison conditions.

0:36:280:36:31

She can see the best side of anything.

0:36:310:36:33

Well, she died relatively young, in her 50s.

0:36:330:36:36

Yes, she was only 53, and I'm sure that the fight that she took part in

0:36:360:36:41

contributed to her ill-health and her early death.

0:36:410:36:43

Was she alive to see women get the vote?

0:36:430:36:46

To some extent. She died in 1923.

0:36:460:36:49

In 1918, women over the age of 30 had got the vote,

0:36:490:36:52

-so she did see that.

-Yes, yeah.

0:36:520:36:53

In fact, in her book, there's a very touching piece

0:36:530:36:56

written in her own hand, and she says,

0:36:560:36:58

"February 1918. By the Representation of the People Act,

0:36:580:37:02

"about six million women of 30 years of age

0:37:020:37:04

-"obtained the parliamentary vote."

-That's brilliant.

0:37:040:37:07

But full suffrage didn't come to women till 1928,

0:37:070:37:09

and, of course, she'd been dead five years by then.

0:37:090:37:11

A sad story, but a wonderful story and a wonderful woman.

0:37:110:37:14

The casket holding Lady Constance's ashes

0:37:160:37:19

rests here in this mausoleum on the Knebworth family estate.

0:37:190:37:23

And from everything that I've learned about Constance today,

0:37:230:37:26

I think the epitaph written here is rather apt.

0:37:260:37:29

Just listen to this. "A celestial sense of humour,

0:37:290:37:32

"boundless sympathy, a rare musical talent.

0:37:320:37:36

"She devoted the later years of her life

0:37:360:37:38

"to the political enfranchisement of women

0:37:380:37:40

"and sacrificed her health and her talents

0:37:400:37:43

"in helping to bring victory to this cause."

0:37:430:37:47

Today, Constance is still remembered

0:37:480:37:51

because every year, in March, on International Women's Day,

0:37:510:37:54

a group of women make the journey here

0:37:540:37:56

to pay tribute to Constance's bravery

0:37:560:37:59

and contribution towards the suffragette movement.

0:37:590:38:02

Back at St Albans Cathedral and Abbey,

0:38:080:38:10

our valuation day is still in full swing

0:38:100:38:12

with hundreds of people queueing to see our experts.

0:38:120:38:16

And we're not finished with the suffragette theme just yet,

0:38:170:38:21

as Claire has come across a pair of mementos from the cause.

0:38:210:38:25

Helen, I love these.

0:38:270:38:29

Now, we've actually seen a lot of religious figures here today,

0:38:290:38:33

but these are from a totally different movement, aren't they?

0:38:330:38:36

-Oh, yes.

-So, tell me a bit about them,

0:38:360:38:39

-what you know about them.

-Well, all I know is that

0:38:390:38:43

my mother-in-law gave them to me about 15 years ago.

0:38:430:38:48

I can't say that I really like them

0:38:480:38:50

cos they're not particularly attractive,

0:38:500:38:53

and I can't find a use for them,

0:38:530:38:55

but I do know that they are meant to be suffragettes.

0:38:550:38:59

They're actually hallmarked Chester 1908,

0:38:590:39:03

which is not long after Emmeline Pankhurst founded

0:39:030:39:05

the suffragette movement in 1903.

0:39:050:39:08

So, very, very much of the period.

0:39:080:39:10

They're made by a very interesting firm

0:39:100:39:12

called Saunders and Shepherd,

0:39:120:39:14

who actually originally mounted mourning jewellery.

0:39:140:39:17

-Whitby. The old Whitby jet.

-Oh, yeah, yeah.

0:39:170:39:19

-And they're little novelty salt and pepper shakers...

-Yeah.

0:39:190:39:23

..in the form of two suffragette ladies.

0:39:230:39:25

-They're made of silver.

-Yeah.

-Solid silver.

0:39:250:39:28

And then you've got like little panels front and back,

0:39:280:39:30

wearing the poke bonnets,

0:39:300:39:32

and the little holes are made in the back of the bonnets

0:39:320:39:35

for the salt and pepper to be shaken from.

0:39:350:39:37

-And then you've got some rather unattractive faces in there.

-Yes.

0:39:370:39:40

Yes. Very simple arms and rather shapeless figures, as well.

0:39:400:39:43

Suffragettes, at that time, were depicted in illustrations,

0:39:430:39:47

postcards, anything, as rather ugly, manly women.

0:39:470:39:52

Not the sort of feminine, attractive woman

0:39:520:39:54

that would look after her home and her husband

0:39:540:39:56

and not be bothered about things like voting.

0:39:560:39:59

You know, they were depicted as ugly. They were ridiculed.

0:39:590:40:02

They had to go through all that.

0:40:020:40:03

And the boards, front and back,

0:40:030:40:05

actually did have lettering on them, which you can just see.

0:40:050:40:09

-But you know what it says, don't you?

-Yes.

-Yes.

0:40:090:40:11

The salt has "votes for women" written on,

0:40:110:40:16

and the pepper has "I can make it hot for you".

0:40:160:40:20

-I mean, obviously, you've got the pepper making it hot.

-Yes.

0:40:200:40:23

But also, it's a reflection on their feeling,

0:40:230:40:26

"Yes, we can make it hot for you. We'll make it difficult for you.

0:40:260:40:29

"We'll make you give us the vote." Because it was a huge struggle.

0:40:290:40:33

So, these ladies represent something

0:40:330:40:35

-that was amazingly important, really, in history.

-Yeah.

0:40:350:40:38

However, we need to talk about value.

0:40:380:40:41

They are very collectable.

0:40:410:40:43

They're novelty condiments and there are people who collect them,

0:40:430:40:46

but it's the fact they're suffragettes

0:40:460:40:47

-that's going to give them their value.

-Yeah.

0:40:470:40:49

I think, easily, we should estimate them

0:40:490:40:52

at 1,000 to 1,500 because the singles will make 700 or 800.

0:40:520:40:58

-Fair.

-I think that's a very conservative estimate,

0:40:580:41:00

if you're happy with that.

0:41:000:41:01

And I would certainly put £1,000 reserve on them,

0:41:010:41:04

-perhaps with a bit of discretion.

-OK.

0:41:040:41:06

-It's so unusual to find the pair.

-Yeah.

0:41:060:41:08

And they're in good condition

0:41:080:41:10

and they're just so beautifully collectable,

0:41:100:41:13

-I really, really think. So, do you think that's good?

-I do.

0:41:130:41:17

-Worth getting them out of the box for?

-I'm surprised.

0:41:170:41:19

-Are you?

-Very surprised, yes.

-Oh, OK.

0:41:190:41:20

Well, that's always nice when it works that way.

0:41:200:41:23

-Well, let's hope they do something.

-I'm sure they will.

0:41:230:41:26

Over on James's table, it looks as though he's in for a surprise too.

0:41:260:41:30

-Now, Lesley, this is a real first for me on Flog It!.

-Is it, James?

0:41:310:41:34

Because what generally happens is,

0:41:340:41:36

I go out in the lines first thing in the morning

0:41:360:41:38

and we look at everyone queueing outside

0:41:380:41:40

-and we delve into people's bags. And I saw you in the queue...

-Yes.

0:41:400:41:43

-..but I didn't see this.

-No.

-I have no idea what's in this.

0:41:430:41:48

"Miss Clarissa Crancher, June 1844."

0:41:480:41:52

Wow!

0:41:520:41:53

-Oh, look at these. Sand pictures.

-Are they sand pictures?

-Yeah.

0:41:530:41:58

Just feel that.

0:41:580:42:01

Oh, yes!

0:42:010:42:02

Now, this would have been so fashionable at its time.

0:42:020:42:06

What is this? "Shanklin Chine."

0:42:060:42:09

"Bonchurch Church."

0:42:090:42:11

OK, now, sand pictures were made fashionable

0:42:110:42:15

by a chap called Zobel, who would paint these massive pictures of,

0:42:150:42:19

a lot of the time, farm scenes, cattle, out of sand.

0:42:190:42:22

It's literally, as we did when we were kids,

0:42:220:42:25

get a piece of paper, put some glue on it

0:42:250:42:27

and sprinkle some coloured sand on.

0:42:270:42:29

-And that's exactly the way they did these.

-Ah.

0:42:290:42:31

-Aren't they brilliant?

-Mm.

-Right, OK.

0:42:310:42:34

There was a huge fashion for these scrapbooks

0:42:340:42:37

from the late 18th century.

0:42:370:42:42

-Tell me, what's the family history?

-None.

0:42:420:42:45

-My mother bought it at a boot sale.

-Really?

-Yes, about 20 years ago.

0:42:450:42:50

And this, she would have loved it.

0:42:500:42:52

She did love it and, you know, it was right up her street.

0:42:520:42:56

One of the interesting things about these

0:42:560:42:58

is that we look at them today with a very different eye,

0:42:580:43:02

and we look at that and think, "Oh, isn't that amazing?

0:43:020:43:05

"What a wonderful hand."

0:43:050:43:07

But, of course, in the 18th century and the 19th century,

0:43:070:43:10

almost every member of the middle classes was taught how to paint...

0:43:100:43:14

-Oh, right.

-..and how to sing...

-Oh.

-..and how to draw.

0:43:140:43:17

It wasn't till the 1920s and '30s, when we had radio,

0:43:170:43:21

that that sort of skill was lost.

0:43:210:43:23

And, of course, today, it's the computer game and telly,

0:43:230:43:27

-so we haven't got very many skills left at all.

-No, I'm afraid not.

0:43:270:43:30

-Not in this way, anyway.

-No.

0:43:300:43:32

-Any idea of value?

-None at all. None at all.

0:43:320:43:36

A lot of these are split up and sold as individual objects,

0:43:360:43:41

individual sand pictures.

0:43:410:43:43

But I have to say, in the last sort of ten years,

0:43:430:43:45

there's been a change and an appreciation of this

0:43:450:43:48

as an actual object, so I'm hoping that somebody will buy this

0:43:480:43:52

and actually love it for what it is. In terms of valuation,

0:43:520:43:56

I think there's a lot in there that's really nicely done.

0:43:560:43:59

There are quite a lot of also-rans, as well.

0:43:590:44:02

So, I think, let's concentrate on the good,

0:44:040:44:06

and I think, if we add those up,

0:44:060:44:08

I think that's going to be worth an estimate of 100 to 150.

0:44:080:44:13

May well make 200.

0:44:130:44:15

But I think, if we put a reserve on it,

0:44:150:44:17

-the reserve is going to be £100.

-That's fine.

0:44:170:44:19

-That's what I'd recommend, if that's OK with you.

-Absolutely fine.

0:44:190:44:22

-Lovely.

-Yes, very pleased with that.

-Thank you.

-Thank you, James.

0:44:220:44:24

Here's another interesting item with Claire.

0:44:240:44:28

-Well, Fran, Martinware - it's not everyone's cup of tea, is it?

-No.

0:44:290:44:34

-But I think this is actually quite pretty.

-I love it.

0:44:340:44:36

And I do have to correct myself - it's not actually a teapot.

0:44:360:44:39

-I think it's a coffee pot.

-Right.

-However...

0:44:390:44:41

-So, are you a collector of it?

-No, we're not.

0:44:410:44:43

We collect Lambeth - Doulton Lambeth.

0:44:430:44:46

But my husband bought me this about 20, 30 years ago

0:44:460:44:49

because it was very pretty, because it's lovely,

0:44:490:44:51

-because it's got birds on it.

-Ah.

0:44:510:44:53

-So, you're a bird person, are you?

-A bird lover, yes.

-Oh, right.

0:44:530:44:56

And, actually, the colour of the glaze isn't that dissimilar, is it?

0:44:560:44:59

-No, it's quite soft.

-Yes, yes. It's quite a nice piece.

0:44:590:45:03

Do you know much about the Martin Brothers?

0:45:030:45:05

I don't know anything about them at all,

0:45:050:45:07

-except that there were lots of them.

-There were four.

0:45:070:45:09

-Very eccentric.

-Yes? Ooh!

-Extraordinary potters, really,

0:45:090:45:13

and working at a time where art studio pottery

0:45:130:45:15

was really quite in vogue.

0:45:150:45:17

Although this is a fairly conservative item for them

0:45:170:45:21

because they're better known, perhaps,

0:45:210:45:24

in the world of sort of exciting antiques,

0:45:240:45:26

-for the big wally birds.

-Big, chunky birds.

-Huge birds,

0:45:260:45:29

great beaks, which actually were supposed to be caricatures

0:45:290:45:32

of prominent people at the time,

0:45:320:45:34

although it's not always easy to discern who they are.

0:45:340:45:36

-So, it's made by Martin Brothers.

-Yes.

0:45:360:45:38

You can tell that from decoration, but actually,

0:45:380:45:40

it's very clearly marked underneath.

0:45:400:45:42

-They always incised the base in the clay when it was still wet.

-Right.

0:45:420:45:47

So, we have a lovely signature there of W Martin,

0:45:470:45:50

and also the date - very clearly dated, actually -

0:45:500:45:53

28th April '82,

0:45:530:45:55

-so there's no doubt about when it was made.

-Yes.

0:45:550:45:57

Yeah, very, very nicely marked.

0:45:570:46:00

-Worked in salt-glaze stoneware.

-Right.

-Stoneware is -

0:46:000:46:03

well, as you know, if you collect the Doulton Lambeth

0:46:030:46:05

-because that's the same - it's very hard, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:46:050:46:07

And then they throw salt into the kiln

0:46:070:46:09

to give you this sort of overall,

0:46:090:46:11

almost like a luminescent effect on the glaze.

0:46:110:46:13

-It's very beautiful.

-It's nice, actually, isn't it? I do like it.

0:46:130:46:17

-Now, the important thing, always, with pottery, is condition.

-Yes.

0:46:170:46:21

And, sadly, this does have a hairline crack in the base,

0:46:210:46:26

which, if anybody collecting... The first thing they ask you

0:46:260:46:28

when they want to buy a piece of pottery, "What condition is it in?

0:46:280:46:31

"Has it got any chips or cracks?"

0:46:310:46:32

So, the minute you mention a hairline crack,

0:46:320:46:34

they'll be a little bit, "Hmm, OK."

0:46:340:46:35

Perhaps not quite so excited about it.

0:46:350:46:37

But having said that, you don't see that many pieces on the market.

0:46:370:46:40

They weren't that prolific.

0:46:400:46:42

They really were quite an extraordinary bunch.

0:46:420:46:44

-So, we need to speak a bit about value.

-Yes.

0:46:440:46:47

It's always difficult with something with a hairline crack.

0:46:470:46:50

I have sold items before that have been damaged

0:46:500:46:52

and they've done extremely well,

0:46:520:46:54

but I always err on the side of caution

0:46:540:46:55

and just try and keep the estimate sensible.

0:46:550:46:59

-I'd estimate it about 150 to 250.

-Ah.

0:46:590:47:02

-Does that sound good?

-That sounds lovely. No, that sounds good.

0:47:020:47:05

I think, perhaps, we pitch the reserve just under the 150,

0:47:050:47:08

or maybe 130. Fix the reserve at that? Is that all right for you?

0:47:080:47:12

-No, that's fine.

-That's excellent.

0:47:120:47:14

I shall look forward to seeing you. Thank you very much indeed.

0:47:140:47:18

Next up is James, who has come across a great little collection.

0:47:180:47:21

Probably the most common thing that is said to auctioneers

0:47:240:47:27

and valuers up and down the country is,

0:47:270:47:30

"It's got to be worth something, it's old."

0:47:300:47:34

And I have to say, the two things don't always go hand in hand.

0:47:340:47:39

You can have something very modern, like a Banksy sketch,

0:47:390:47:42

that can be worth hundreds of thousands,

0:47:420:47:45

and then you can have something that's thousands of years old

0:47:450:47:48

-and worth very little.

-OK.

0:47:480:47:51

You've something here, Annie, that is incredibly early,

0:47:510:47:55

but the question is, what's it worth? What do you know about these?

0:47:550:48:00

All I know is that these three bottom coins are all Roman.

0:48:000:48:04

They belonged to my second cousin, as did the other two,

0:48:040:48:09

and I inherited them all when he died.

0:48:090:48:12

I found them amongst his things.

0:48:120:48:14

Somebody told me that the Roman ones were pre-invasion

0:48:140:48:18

which, if that's true, I find quite interesting.

0:48:180:48:22

The oldest is the one that I've never seen before and it's that one.

0:48:220:48:26

-A-ha.

-So, that one there is Augustus and Agrippa.

0:48:260:48:31

Now, this was struck after 10 AD.

0:48:310:48:35

Let's turn it over.

0:48:350:48:37

-Have you worked out what it is on the back?

-No.

0:48:370:48:40

That is a crocodile standing in front of a tree.

0:48:400:48:44

These are more common in Britain. Maximians. This one and this one.

0:48:450:48:51

They would be 286 AD to 305 AD.

0:48:510:48:57

Both are beautiful castings, really lovely condition.

0:48:570:49:02

Next one, Elizabeth I.

0:49:020:49:05

-It's 1,300 years later than these.

-Yes.

0:49:050:49:11

Solid silver and it's what we call a struck groat,

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so it's just been banged, OK.

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And then above her, we have this one, and that's a George III coin,

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1797, known as cartwheel because of the thickness of the coin.

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So, value. We've got £10 there,

0:49:280:49:32

bit less there.

0:49:320:49:34

£15 there,

0:49:340:49:36

£50 to £70 there

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and £6 to £10 there.

0:49:390:49:41

All right? So, in terms of an action lot,

0:49:410:49:44

I'd put them all together

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and I would put £70 to £100 on as an estimate.

0:49:460:49:49

Are you happy to sell the lot, cos I know that you were saying

0:49:490:49:52

that there was one there that had a bit of sentimental value,

0:49:520:49:56

so would you like to just take the one?

0:49:560:50:00

-Yes, I'm sorry to mess you up.

-Go on.

-I'm going to keep that one.

0:50:010:50:05

Can I ask why that one?

0:50:050:50:07

Because when I was clearing all of my cousin's stuff,

0:50:070:50:10

I'd got a huge drawer and I just picked up the drawer

0:50:100:50:14

and stood it up vertically and I heard the ch-ch-ch-ch,

0:50:140:50:18

and it was this that had fallen down the inside of the drawer.

0:50:180:50:22

I remember it from 14 years ago when I was doing it,

0:50:220:50:25

so I just want to keep it, really.

0:50:250:50:28

I think, for the sake of £10, it's worth keeping it

0:50:280:50:31

but, having said that, I still think we should keep the same estimate -

0:50:310:50:36

£70 to £100, with a £50 fixed reserve, OK?

0:50:360:50:40

And I'm sure they'll do well and, hopefully,

0:50:400:50:43

these little coins will make you a few more pennies

0:50:430:50:46

to buy something else.

0:50:460:50:47

I can't believe how low the estimate is for those coins,

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as they're steeped in history.

0:50:500:50:52

Well, there you are, that's it. Our work is nearly done here.

0:50:540:50:57

Our experts have now found their final items to take off to auction,

0:50:570:51:01

so we have to say goodbye to St Albans Cathedral and Abbey.

0:51:010:51:04

But I tell you what,

0:51:040:51:06

-it's not easy putting a value on an antique, is it? ALL:

-No!

-No.

0:51:060:51:09

-Our experts are pretty good, aren't they? ALL:

-Yes!

0:51:090:51:12

But anything can happen in an auction room, and you know that.

0:51:120:51:15

Right now, we're going to put those valuations to the test.

0:51:150:51:18

Here's a quick recap of all the items

0:51:180:51:20

that are coming with us off to auction.

0:51:200:51:22

Helen isn't very fond of her suffragette salt and pepper pots,

0:51:240:51:27

so will be happy to see them sell.

0:51:270:51:29

The Victorian scrapbook is crammed full of different illustrations,

0:51:330:51:36

including those interesting sand pictures.

0:51:360:51:39

Let's hope the hairline crack

0:51:420:51:44

on Fran's Martinware coffee pot doesn't deter the bidders.

0:51:440:51:48

Finally, the age of Annie's coin collection spans an impressive

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1,300 years. Fingers crossed all that history

0:51:550:51:58

will attract the bidders.

0:51:580:52:00

We're back at the saleroom in Tring,

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where auctioneer Stephen Hearn is still hard at work.

0:52:080:52:10

First up, it's that Martinware coffee pot.

0:52:100:52:14

Fran, I want to say good luck, but at the same time,

0:52:140:52:18

I want to say I don't want you to sell it.

0:52:180:52:20

-Why, why, why are you selling this?

-Because my husband said

0:52:200:52:23

he would like us to come and do something like this.

0:52:230:52:25

-On Flog It!?

-On Flog It!, and do you know, he's just done something.

0:52:250:52:28

-Oh, you could have found something else!

-I know, I know.

0:52:280:52:30

This is it. It's going under the hammer.

0:52:300:52:33

200, I have. 210 for you, sir?

0:52:330:52:35

220? 230? 240, I have.

0:52:350:52:39

-250?

-Let's get 350.

-60?

0:52:390:52:41

270? 280? 300, he said. No?

0:52:420:52:47

At £300. At 310. 320 now. 330?

0:52:470:52:52

Don't often get a piece. It's going down.

0:52:520:52:55

I sell for £350, then.

0:52:550:52:58

-You got top money - £350.

-Wonderful.

0:52:580:53:00

-It's a good result.

-Yes.

-Thanks for being such a brilliant sport.

0:53:000:53:03

-Thank you very much.

-Because quality, quality, quality.

0:53:030:53:05

-Martin Brothers - great London makers.

-Yeah.

0:53:050:53:08

Next, let's hope the collectors are in the saleroom

0:53:080:53:11

for that jam-packed sketch book.

0:53:110:53:13

-Leslie, it's great to see you again.

-Thank you very much.

0:53:140:53:17

I love the little sketchbook.

0:53:170:53:18

We're just about to sell Leslie's little sketchbook.

0:53:180:53:20

-Leather bound, it's got some wonderful watercolours in it.

-Yeah.

0:53:200:53:23

-Oh, it's fabulous, isn't it?

-It really is delightful.

0:53:230:53:25

-And Mum got this?

-From a boot sale, yes.

0:53:250:53:27

-About 20-odd years ago?

-20-odd years ago.

-Great.

0:53:270:53:30

OK, fingers crossed we get that top end.

0:53:300:53:32

This is going under the hammer right now.

0:53:320:53:34

There it is. 150.

0:53:350:53:37

Make it 60? 70? 80 now?

0:53:370:53:41

At £70. Are you going to be 80?

0:53:410:53:43

90? 100? £100.

0:53:430:53:47

Surely one more, sir. No?

0:53:470:53:49

Madam's going to have it, then. I shall sell away from you.

0:53:490:53:52

It's going for £100, then.

0:53:520:53:55

-Sold.

-Great.

-Well done. Well done. We're all happy.

0:53:550:53:58

-Yes, that's good. Yeah, yeah.

-Lovely.

-Phew!

0:53:580:54:00

-Job done, James.

-Good. Well done.

-THEY LAUGH

0:54:000:54:03

It's time to find out if the Roman enthusiasts are in the room.

0:54:030:54:08

Right now, we're going to flip. Will it be heads or tails?

0:54:080:54:10

Because we've got that coin belonging to Annie.

0:54:100:54:13

There's about four coins here going under the hammer.

0:54:130:54:15

-Why are you selling the coins?

-Because I don't display them

0:54:150:54:18

and I don't really know the history of them,

0:54:180:54:20

so I thought it was time to let them go.

0:54:200:54:22

Surely it's got to be a couple of hundred pounds.

0:54:220:54:24

They're going under the hammer right now.

0:54:240:54:26

If you're not here, you can't buy them, so hard luck. Here we go.

0:54:260:54:30

There you are. There's three Roman, I believe,

0:54:320:54:35

and one Elizabethan shilling. What about those?

0:54:350:54:37

Ought to be £100 for those.

0:54:370:54:39

50, 60, 70, 80, 90.

0:54:390:54:41

100 now, surely? 100, I have.

0:54:410:54:44

And 10 for you, sir?

0:54:440:54:46

110. And 20 perhaps?

0:54:460:54:48

Yes. And 30? No more?

0:54:480:54:50

120 then, I'm selling. You're out. It's going.

0:54:500:54:54

Yes, it is. You can have another 10.

0:54:540:54:56

Ah, 130, there you go, see.

0:54:560:54:58

At 130. I'm awfully sorry. 40?

0:54:580:55:01

No? At 130, then.

0:55:010:55:03

-I'm selling at £130.

-GAVEL BANGS

0:55:030:55:06

-Brilliant! Better than 70 quid, wasn't it?

-Yes.

0:55:060:55:08

Still, not a lot of money for a lot of history.

0:55:080:55:11

-And you've been the proud custodian of these.

-Indeed, yes.

0:55:110:55:15

How fascinating! That's real history in your hand. If only it could talk.

0:55:150:55:20

Now for our final lot of the day,

0:55:210:55:23

and it's Helen's suffragette salt and pepper pots.

0:55:230:55:26

Great to see you again, and what a find at the valuation day.

0:55:260:55:30

You spotted them. You zoomed straight in.

0:55:300:55:32

-Were you surprised at the valuation?

-Extremely.

0:55:320:55:35

I thought they might have been about £100, or something.

0:55:350:55:38

-Something along those lines.

-Gosh.

0:55:380:55:40

-That must have been a big surprise.

-It was.

0:55:400:55:42

Hopefully, we'll get that £1,500. Hopefully, get a bit more.

0:55:420:55:44

-Yeah, hope so. It's quite scarce to find a pair.

-Yes.

0:55:440:55:46

They often come up singly. Well, not even that often,

0:55:460:55:49

-but you see them singly.

-Good luck.

0:55:490:55:50

-This is exciting, isn't it?

-It is.

-This should be our star lot.

0:55:500:55:53

This is the big one we've been waiting for!

0:55:530:55:55

It's going under the hammer right now.

0:55:550:55:57

Suffragette peppers.

0:55:580:56:00

They're the right date. I am bid £700 for them.

0:56:000:56:04

720 I have. 750 is bid for it.

0:56:040:56:07

780? £800?

0:56:070:56:10

820, we've got. 820.

0:56:100:56:13

850? 880?

0:56:130:56:16

900, we've got. At £900.

0:56:160:56:19

920? 950, is it?

0:56:190:56:21

980? At 980, they're going to be sold.

0:56:210:56:25

At 980, then, they're going to be sold.

0:56:250:56:27

They go down at £980.

0:56:270:56:31

-Oh!

-Oh! It wasn't bad, was it?

-But I tell you what,

0:56:310:56:33

-it's better than 150, isn't it?

-It is. It is.

0:56:330:56:36

-HE LAUGHS

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:56:360:56:38

-They were rare.

-They were. It would have been nice to see the 1,000,

0:56:380:56:41

-but that's not a bad price, is it?

-No.

-That's pretty good.

0:56:410:56:43

-That's not a bad price.

-It's fine.

0:56:430:56:45

-Thank you so much for bringing them in.

-Oh, you're welcome.

0:56:450:56:47

Well, there you are. That's it. It's all over for our owners.

0:56:510:56:53

We've had a marvellous time here.

0:56:530:56:55

And if you'd like to join the show, we'd love to see you.

0:56:550:56:58

Check out our up-and-coming dates and venues on our BBC website

0:56:580:57:01

or our Facebook page, or check the details in your local press.

0:57:010:57:03

Come on, dust them down, bring them in,

0:57:030:57:05

we'll flog them in another auction room.

0:57:050:57:07

But until then, it's goodbye from Hertfordshire.

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