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We're off on our travels again,

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crisscrossing Britain as we help you to discover the history and value of

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your unwanted antiques.

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And that's not all.

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Today, I'm at Coughton Court in Warwickshire.

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This house played a key role in the notorious Gunpowder Plot of 1605.

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Today, there's going to be fireworks.

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Welcome to "Flog It!"

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Coughton Court was implicated

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in an attempt to blow up the Houses of Parliament

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and, with it, the King.

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It was from within these walls of the gatehouse tower that a group of

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radical Catholics watched and waited

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for news that could change the course of British history forever

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or seal their death warrants.

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We'll be finding out more about that and the house

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later on in the programme.

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But before that, we have some travelling to do.

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We're off on a trip around Britain to revisit some of our stunning

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locations from this series.

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It's another chance to see those great venues

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and discover some of your treasures, brought in for our experts to value.

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Come on, everyone.

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Wolverhampton Art Gallery proved a wonderful backdrop

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for our valuation day.

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But David Harper discovered some people

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have strong feelings about colour.

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I don't like blush.

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I like the other Worcester.

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In Morecambe, Lancashire, we spent the day at The Platform building,

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once part of the town's old promenade station.

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And Charles Hanson was in the mood for waxing lyrical.

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They really capture an age of sophistication,

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when eloquence in dress was at the height under Victorian England.

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And we were thrilled by the response we got in Grimsby,

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our valuation day in the Minster.

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Christina Trevanion discovered what gave a diamond ring its sparkle.

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Did you leave that in a washing-up bowl overnight?

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Yes, yes! Yes!

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And in the magnificent cathedral in St Albans,

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Jonathan Pratt discovered a unique item.

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I'm not even sure what it is. I thought it was very unusual.

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-I'm not wrong there, am I?

-You're not wrong about that, no.

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And that's where we're heading first.

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But for now, James Lewis is chatting to Pam

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and it looks like he's in need of refreshment already.

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Well, Pam, it's time for tea.

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I wish it was, you know!

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I think it's time for my Pinot Grigio.

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I would just like a few scones...

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I don't need scones. That's the last thing I need.

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Oh, no, no. Actually I can make scones, I could make you some.

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I should have brought some today.

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Oh, dear, but they say, you know, that tea drinking is coming back.

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Ten years ago, you would never have believed it.

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No, no, no. It's Downton Abbey, you realise.

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It's got to be something to do with it.

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-Definitely Downton Abbey, yes.

-But this is a lovely teapot, isn't it?

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-Is it a family thing?

-Oh, very much so.

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It's been passed down from my mother to me and I'm lucky enough to have

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another silver teapot, and one is enough for me.

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Exactly, you only need one, don't you?

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-Only need one, yes.

-Blimey, OK, well, let's have a look.

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So, what we've got here is a Chinese figure on the top.

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There were various times in which Chinese figures were popular.

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18th century and the Chinese Chippendale period,

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then again in the 1840s with the Chinese Chippendale

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or Rococo revival, and you look at its shape,

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you look at the fact that it's embossed with flowers,

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which can sometimes be done later.

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-Yes.

-So we should be looking somewhere between 1830 and 1850.

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-Right.

-OK, so, let's turn it over.

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We've got a lion, lion passant,

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everybody knows that means it's silver.

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The leopard's head is the mark for London.

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-Right.

-He hasn't got a crown.

-Oh.

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The leopard lost his crown in 1821, so we know it's after then.

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-Then at the bottom here we've got the head of Queen Victoria.

-Right.

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So we now know it's after 1837.

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And we've got the mark for Joseph and Albert Savory.

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They started making around 1835, but we've got a date letter,

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gothic E there, upper case, and that's for 1840.

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So, it's London, 1840.

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So, there we go, so it's a good thing.

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What's it worth?

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Silver prices have plummeted,

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but tea drinking has become more fashionable

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and I'm hoping that this will survive the melting pot...

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But if you'd sold it five years ago, it would have been melted,

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because it would have been worth more as a lump of silver

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-than as a teapot.

-Oh, yes.

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I think now it's worth £100 to £200.

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-Right.

-And I think it'll end up making around 160.

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Right, so that's that reserve you want me to have?

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What would you like as a reserve? Your teapot, I want you to be happy.

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-I know, but I need to be guided by somebody like you.

-OK.

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If we put 150 on it.

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-Yes.

-We could put 150 to 200, it's more of a natural estimate.

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-Right.

-Would you be happy with 150?

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Well, I would be, yes. I mean, I'd like more, obviously.

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Of course, yes, so would I, I hope it will make more.

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Yes. Well, somebody will have pleasure

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pouring afternoon tea in that.

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They will.

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If it doesn't make that then take it home and make a pot of tea.

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Drown your sorrows with some Earl Grey.

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I love that teapot. Hopefully, it will sell well.

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Now we're travelling to Wolverhampton Art Gallery,

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where David Harper is excited about a pot.

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Well, I tell you what, Brian and Pauline,

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-this museum is a place of contrast, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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We've got this massive, modern structure behind us

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and then your wonderful piece of Worcester right in front of us,

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which I think, Pauline, feels quite at home

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here in Wolverhampton Museum, doesn't it?

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-Yes.

-Tell us about it.

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I don't know where I got it from. I've had it many years.

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I don't like blush.

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I like the other Worcester, Stinton and all those, really.

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Right, so you're a bit of a Worcester man, then, are you, Brian?

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-40 years.

-40 years?

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40 years picking up bits and pieces

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-all over the Midlands.

-Wow.

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Off people when they used to give it away.

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-How many pieces does he have at home?

-Oh, crates full.

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We cover Worcester on these programmes vary often.

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-Of course you do.

-I mean, it's such a big brand in this business.

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-Yes.

-Founded in, as you know, 1751.

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Ancient company, and if we look at this piece, this is the blush ivory.

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Let's see if there's any damage and see how it rings, Pauline.

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-Rings well.

-I'm sure it will.

-Does it?

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-You're looking worried.

-I'm sure it will. Yes.

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-OK, here we go. Ready?

-Yes.

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POT RINGS CLEARLY

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-Perfect.

-Nothing wrong in that.

-No, nothing at all.

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A good ring, that is very good, no big cracks or damage.

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We spin this over and we can see it's marked Worcester, England.

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So we know that England

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was introduced to pottery and porcelain in 1891,

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so it doesn't predate that.

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-We've got ten dots underneath the England.

-That's right.

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Add that on to 1891, this was made in 1901.

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-The end of the Victorian reign.

-Mm-hm.

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But the height of the British Empire.

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You'll find these in Australia, in Africa, in India,

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all over the place,

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because Worcester was a big moneymaking machine.

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But I bet you this hasn't moved very far away.

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It's probably remained in the Midlands, I guess.

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I should think so, yes. I should think so.

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Well, listen, you're the expert here.

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You've been doing it for 40 years.

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What's it worth in today's market?

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I should think three, but I've been told less than that.

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-Ooh, I think less.

-Yeah.

-What do you think, Pauline?

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I'm not really sure, not really sure at all.

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OK, well, I reckon if we're going to be sensible, we'd go 200 to 250.

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-OK.

-And I'd like to really give it a bit of discretion as well,

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so maybe reserve it at 180.

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-Yeah.

-OK, we'll go there.

-Are you happy with that?

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-Yes.

-Are you sure?

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No!

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Hey, listen, you never know, the way the market is,

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get yourself 180 for this

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and buy something in the auction that is going UP in value.

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Yes, of course. Yeah, yeah.

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And if you know what that is, you will let me know, won't you?

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Yes, I will, yes!

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Let's hope the jardiniere

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does really well when it comes up for auction.

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Now, time to take a quick break from our valuation days,

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as I want to show you something special I found on my trip

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to Coughton Court in Warwickshire.

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Religion is very much at the heart of the Throckmortons

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and it always has been.

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A number of the women in the family took holy orders,

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including Elizabeth Throckmorton,

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who lived here in the early part of the 16th century.

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She became the last Abbess of Denny in Cambridgeshire

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and she held position until the convent closed

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during the Dissolution of the Monasteries.

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This little oak panel is from the door of the abbey itself.

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It's what's known as a dole gate.

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The word dole is still used today and I'll explain what it is.

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You see this panel here, it's hinged, it would open up.

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Loaves of bread and other food would be passed out to the needy

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and this is where we get the expression on the dole,

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people who have fallen on hard times and need a charitable hand-out.

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I think this is a priceless piece of our social history

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and indeed the family's history.

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The outer panels here are beautiful and are carved with the Tudor rose,

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the Sacred Heart and the Beaufort portcullis,

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representing Margaret Beaufort, mother of Henry VII.

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The Latin panel on the hinged central doors can be translated as,

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"May God preserve Dame Elizabeth Throckmorton, Abbess of Denny."

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Elizabeth and two other nuns moved back to Coughton

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to live with her nephew.

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It's not really known for sure

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what she brought back from the convent.

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This dole-gate panel was found in a cottage nearby and brought

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back to the court.

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Well, from something so simple and humble to something very grand now.

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We're going straight over to Grimsby to catch up with Christina,

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who's talking to a lady called Linda.

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Now, Linda, that looks very promising.

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Look at that! Wow!

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-It's beautiful, isn't it?

-Oh, it's just a stunner.

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Look at that!

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Beautiful sapphire and diamond ring.

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-Yes.

-Now, tell me, where has this come from, Linda?

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Well, about 30 years ago on my birthday,

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I had a card from my great-aunt

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and in the card was this wrapped up in a little piece of tissue paper,

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inside the card through a normal post.

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-No?!

-Yes, about 30 years ago.

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So, when you opened the card and you saw that, what did you think?

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Well, it didn't look like that, it was very dirty,

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obviously very well-worn, and she'd put in the card that

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it no longer fitted her finger, would I like her sparkle?

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And something about it...

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I just dropped it into a cup of washing-up water

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and the next morning it came out and I thought, "Oh, that is pretty."

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-You left it in a washing-up bowl overnight?!

-Yes, yes!

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-But something...

-Linda, that's fantastic.

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Yes, and so I took it to the jeweller's to have it made bigger,

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because it was so pretty, and the jeweller just said to me,

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"You do realise it's real?" And I'd got no idea at all that it was real.

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It is an absolute stunner, I mean, look at it sparkling in this light,

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it's got these wonderful three graduated diamonds

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and then it's got this wonderful surround

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of individually cut sapphires,

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which are all calibre-cut, or square-cut sapphires,

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which have all been cut to go in that surround there, and then,

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even better, we've got another surround going round the outside.

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I would say it might be French.

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-Right.

-There are no marks on the back, sadly, so we can't tell,

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-because I think the marks have been worn away.

-Worn off, yes.

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I mean, to me, it just screams

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Art Deco.

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It's 1920s, 1930s, incredibly stylish.

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-Right.

-And very in vogue right now,

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and what's absolutely magic for me is that if we turn it over,

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this carved gallery on the back here,

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and you just don't get that on modern workmanship.

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This has all been hand-carved, it is just stunning.

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And honestly, I want to melt, I really, really do.

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It's beautiful.

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And I think at auction it would be very, very popular.

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Very popular. There are two things that we need to consider.

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We've got a little sapphire missing here.

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-Yes.

-And the second thing is the hoop at the back, as you can see,

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is very thin.

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Whoever buys it will have some maintenance work to do on it.

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-Yes.

-But I think if you were to sell it,

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I would expect an auction estimate of £1,000 to £2,000.

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-Right you are.

-Now, we want to protect it with a reserve.

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-Yes.

-And I would suggest a reserve of £1,000.

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-Is that all right?

-Yes, that's fine.

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-Thank you so much for bringing it in.

-It's a pleasure, thank you.

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That little gem of a ring is the last of our first batch of items

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and now it's time to find out if they make our owners any money

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when they go under the hammer.

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At St Albans, Pam brought in a stylish silver teapot.

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Pauline and Brian have fallen out of love

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with their Royal Worcester jardiniere,

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which they brought to the valuation day at Wolverhampton Art Gallery.

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And finally, at our valuation day in Grimsby Minster,

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Christina loved Linda's sparkling diamond ring.

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We've travelled to Tring Market Auctions in Hertfordshire,

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where Pam's teapot is up for sale, and Stephen Hearn's our auctioneer.

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150, 60, 70...

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Remember, whether you're buying or selling,

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at every auction there is always commission and VAT to pay.

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Right, it's time for tea.

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No, don't disappear to the kitchen,

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we're selling Pam's silver teapot, and what a beauty it is, isn't it?

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-Oh, it's beautiful.

-Why are you flogging it, then?

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Because my daughter...

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My lovely daughter's getting married next year

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and she wants me to have a hat and an outfit.

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Right, so it's going towards the wedding fund.

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-I think so.

-And it haemorrhages money for mums, doesn't it?

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-You're going to be paying for everything, darling.

-It does!

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Yes, I know, look, good luck, though. It's going to be a great day.

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Let's find out what it's worth, shall we?

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It's going under the hammer now.

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There we are, nice one, ought to be 180, you know.

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150 for it?

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120 I've got.

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130 I've got.

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140. 150, is it?

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Yes, 150.

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160.

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You're out, then.

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At £150.

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It's gone. And I've got to say how wonderful you look.

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And I'm sure you'll look very glamorous on the wedding day.

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-I will.

-With your new hat on and shoes!

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-Thank you very much.

-Hats and heels.

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It's been a lovely experience, thank you very much.

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-Thank you.

-Pleasure.

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90 I have now. £200. And ten.

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From Tring, we're heading 140 miles north-west

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to a former clock factory,

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now Trevanion and Dean Saleroom in Whitchurch, Shropshire,

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where Aaron Dean's holding the gavel.

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And selling at 150, there's no advancement at 150.

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Pauline and Brian, you are big Worcester collectors, aren't you?

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You know your stuff, 40 years, yeah. How many pieces have you got?

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-Too many.

-Too many.

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-OK, we're selling your lovely big jardiniere here today.

-Yes.

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Right now. Why are you selling this?

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Why do you want to get rid of this if you're still collecting?

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-Because we've downsized in property.

-OK.

-So the big stuff's got to go.

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But we're fortunate because there's two small pieces here by Stinton,

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so that one may pay for the other, you see.

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Ah, reinvesting, always trading upwards.

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So, we need £200 right now.

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Here we go, let's do it.

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Very good example here.

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160 to start there, please. At 160, please, at 160.

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160 we have. 170.

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-Come on.

-180.

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At 180, on the telephone, it is at 180.

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At 180, thought it might have made more.

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Against you all in the room, it is at £180, 180.

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Sold at 180, then.

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180, little less than what we thought.

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Disappointed, but never mind.

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-Is that enough?

-Yes.

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-You can make the difference up.

-It has to be.

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Finally, we're travelling east to Golding, Young and Mawers

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in Lincoln, where auctioneer Colin Young's in charge

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of selling Linda's ring.

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Right now we're going to make the saleroom sparkle with an Art Deco ring.

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It's diamond and sapphire, belonging to Linda.

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I love this. It's a lot of money and I love the story,

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it arrived in the post, didn't it?

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-Yes, yes.

-Wrapped up.

-Yes, in my birthday card.

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And no-one knew how much it was worth!

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-Great birthday present, though.

-Well, I know!

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Well, good luck with it.

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-Hopefully you're going home with over £1,000.

-Best of luck.

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Let's hand the proceedings over to Colin Young on the rostrum.

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You just need to look at the image

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-and see what a fabulous ring we're selling here.

-Oh!

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Who's going to start me at £1,000?

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Good build-up.

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800 to go then, 800. Five if we must, then, five's over there.

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Right, we're in.

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£500 bid. At 500. At 550 now?

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At £500 bid. On the right at 500.

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550. 550, 600.

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600. 650. 700.

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650 bid.

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700. 700. 750 now.

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750. 800.

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850. 900.

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950. 1000.

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-We've sold it.

-At 1,100 bid.

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1,200 anywhere else now?

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At 1,100, are we all done?

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Selling in the room at £1,100.

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Yes, £1,100.

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How do you feel, darling?

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-Is that all right?

-Oh, a bit upset.

-I know!

-Bless you!

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It's gone, it's gone.

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-You didn't wear it, did you?

-No, no, I didn't.

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It was too precious, it was in the safe at home all that time.

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It was, it was.

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But I loved owning it, I really did.

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And thank you, Auntie Kay.

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Ahhh!

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We'll have more auctions later, but before that,

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I want to take you back to Warwickshire

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to look at how one family's faith

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shaped their fate and fortune for generations.

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Coughton Court has been home to the Throckmorton family

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for over 600 years and their Catholic religion

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has always been very important to them,

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so much so that there's not one but two churches here on the estate.

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And these two churches tell a remarkable story

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of the family's struggle to maintain and be true

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to their religious beliefs throughout the darkest of times.

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This is the Anglican church of St Peter's.

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The church used to be Catholic, as did the country, but in 1534,

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King Henry VIII became head of his own Church and everything changed.

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St Peter's became part of this new Church of England

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and was confiscated from the family.

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Things got even worse when Henry's daughter was crowned Elizabeth I.

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She reigned with a firmly Protestant fist and it was on her watch that

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being a Catholic became a dangerous game indeed.

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Under Queen Elizabeth, Protestant worship was law.

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Disobeying this law was punishable by hefty fines, or even prison.

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Catholicism had been the religion of the people,

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but now it could only be practised in private.

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Families like the Throckmortons became enemies of the state.

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And it was here in the tower of Coughton Court

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that the Throckmortons would hold their Mass in secret,

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keeping a watchful eye over the countryside beyond,

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looking out for anybody trying to catch them out,

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practising the forbidden faith.

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And here in the tower is this huge painted canvas,

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the Tabula Eliensis.

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This was a protest document which displayed the shields of Catholic

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families imprisoned by the Government

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when religious persecution was at its height.

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It would have been dangerous to have owned something like this,

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let alone have it on display.

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It's a bit faded now.

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You can just make out some of the armorials and coat of arms

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and faces and if you look closely along here

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you can see the coat of arms of Thomas Throckmorton,

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who spent long periods of time in and out of prison.

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But the risks of actually preaching Catholicism were far greater.

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Any priest caught saying Mass was almost guaranteed a grisly end.

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So Catholic families like the Throckmortons

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would have to make sure they were hidden

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when the Queen's men came knocking.

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And here's how they did it.

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Here's Coughton Court's priest-hole.

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Follow me and I'll show you down here. This is rather clever.

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When the alarm was raised, evidence was hidden

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and the priest led here and lowered into the priest-hole.

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This is clever because it's a double-height priest-hole,

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so if the Queen's men were searching around and they saw this,

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they lifted the hatch up and the chamber was empty,

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hopefully they wouldn't search any further.

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Because there's another trap door underneath this one,

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and that's where the priest would be hiding.

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Now, the punishment for sheltering a priest could be death.

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Now, luckily enough, Coughton's was rather expertly done.

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That wasn't rediscovered for another 200 years.

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They found not only bedding down there, but a folding leather altar.

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Thankfully, no skeletons.

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The Throckmortons went further than just refusing to be Protestants.

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They actively plotted to replace Queen Elizabeth

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with her Catholic cousin, Mary, Queen of Scots.

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For which Francis Throckmorton was put to death.

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But it was another more explosive plot

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that really put Coughton Court on the map.

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On the morning of the 6th of November 1605,

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a messenger on horseback came thundering towards Coughton Court

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from London to deliver the news that a plan

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to blow up the Houses of Parliament had failed.

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The message was from Robert Catesby,

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the ringleader of the Gunpowder Plot,

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who was now fleeing for his life.

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So what role did Coughton play in this catastrophic conspiracy?

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After the death of Elizabeth,

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the new King James III had promised

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to be more tolerant towards the Catholics.

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However, when he actually took the throne he was anything but.

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Feeling betrayed, the Catholics decided

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the time had come to take action,

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and so the potting began.

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Coughton Court was to play a big part in the plan.

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Robert Catesby was born into the Throckmorton family,

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and with the help of his friends, plus a few Throckmorton cousins,

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they planned to spark an uprising.

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The idea was to blow up the Houses of Parliament

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on the day of its opening in 1605,

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killing King James and the ruling classes,

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and then kidnap the King's daughter,

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bring her back here to Warwickshire,

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where she would be proclaimed Queen of England,

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and the Catholics would seize control.

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Coughton Court was rented by one of Catesby's men,

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under the pretence of holding a hunting party.

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But his actual purpose was to oversee the royal kidnap.

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Coughton would then be an important Catholic stronghold

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in the rebellion to come.

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The cellar under the House of Commons was packed with explosives,

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in preparation for the 5th of November.

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But the fuse was never lit, because a certain Guy Fawkes,

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who was guarding the gunpowder, was discovered.

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Here in the drawing room, an anxious group were waiting.

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Some of the most prominent Catholics in the country,

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all hoping the King would fall,

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so they could restore a Catholic monarch to the throne.

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But these dreams were soon dashed.

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When the news reached Coughton,

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a priest in the group exclaimed, "We are all utterly undone!"

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The plotters were eventually rounded up and either killed on the spot

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or captured to be executed later.

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New laws were passed. Catholics no longer had the right to vote.

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They weren't allowed to become Members of Parliament.

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These laws would remain in place for over 200 years.

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As a result of the Gunpowder Plot,

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public opinion turned against the Catholics more so than ever.

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They were traitors to King and country.

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And things got worse for the Throckmortons in the years to come.

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In 1688, King James II was overthrown

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by the Protestant William of Orange from Holland,

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and anti-Catholic riots swept the country.

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Coughton was caught up in the violence,

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being targeted by a local mob.

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The entire east wing was set on fire,

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and the family chapel was burned to the ground.

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But the Throckmortons were undeterred

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and they continued worshipping,

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creating a chapel here in the saloon.

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The family would participate in the service from up here in the gallery,

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while the rest of the household were below.

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Slowly but surely, things changed for the better.

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By 1829, Catholics could worship freely once again.

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Sir Robert Throckmorton took his seat in the House of Commons,

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as the first English Catholic MP for 200 years.

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The ban was lifted at last.

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Now, the family could finally display the relics of their faith

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that they'd been forced to keep locked away for so long.

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But it's here we see just how far

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the Throckmortons' religious journey has come.

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In 1855, Sir Robert Throckmorton built this church,

0:26:170:26:21

the Catholic Church of St Peter, Paul and Elizabeth.

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So, 300 years after being kicked out of St Peter's by Henry VIII

0:26:250:26:30

and having to pray in private to keep their religious beliefs alive,

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the family could once again pray in a church.

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And they still do to this very day.

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So, we're back where we started

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and we can see how the Catholic fortunes of the family

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have come full circle.

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We'll be popping back to Coughton later on,

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but for now we're returning to St Albans Cathedral,

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where the crowds are still packed in

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and Jonathan Pratt's found a first for "Flog It!"

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Well, this is a bit of an oddity, John, isn't it?

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It is, yes. I'm not even sure what it is myself.

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Where's this come from?

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Well, I went to an auction about 30 years ago

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and I wanted to buy one thing, but that went over my price limit

0:27:180:27:21

and I came away with that instead,

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because I thought it was very unusual.

0:27:230:27:24

-I'm not wrong there, am I?

-You're not wrong about that, no.

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Just out of chance, do you remember what they catalogued it as?

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Yes, it said a coronation plinth, possibly for the coronation in 1837,

0:27:300:27:35

but there's no proof of that.

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No. As an auctioneer, as a valuer,

0:27:370:27:39

you have to look at these things and try and look at what the evidence is

0:27:390:27:42

and then work out what the materials are and put them together.

0:27:420:27:44

-Yes.

-You've got the crown and the sceptre, Holy Bible there,

0:27:440:27:48

sitting on a little cushion.

0:27:480:27:49

Need to try and understand what this material is that it's made of.

0:27:490:27:53

-I thought it was wood, but...

-Well, I don't think it's wood.

0:27:530:27:57

We've got a chip on here,

0:27:570:27:58

which suggests this is like a plaster or something.

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You know, under here, you see, where all this paper is,

0:28:010:28:04

this looks right for sort of late 19th century or so...

0:28:040:28:09

It's very dry, sort of like a gouache-type paint,

0:28:090:28:12

and it's been sort of veneered to decorate that.

0:28:120:28:15

And then the other thing would be to look underneath at the bottom.

0:28:150:28:18

This looks like a fairly seasoned piece of wood,

0:28:180:28:21

which might be 19th-century.

0:28:210:28:23

The gilding on the foot... This looks...

0:28:230:28:25

This is what gilding should look like and that looks all right.

0:28:250:28:28

This painting here on the crown, starting at the top,

0:28:280:28:31

it's very much like gold paint, so it's, you know...

0:28:310:28:33

-Right.

-It's not gilding.

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I'd say it's been restored at some point.

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It has, I think, its origins in the 19th century,

0:28:370:28:39

not at the early part of Victoria's reign, but middle to late.

0:28:390:28:43

-OK.

-I think once upon a time

0:28:430:28:44

it was all gilt like this and it had a glass dome

0:28:440:28:47

-and was all very special, and for what purpose I don't know.

-OK.

0:28:470:28:49

But then I think that's really what my job's all about.

0:28:490:28:52

Half the time, there are things that you find that,

0:28:520:28:54

without a crystal ball, you're never going to know.

0:28:540:28:56

Today, the market is led by curiosities

0:28:560:28:58

and it's led by decorative objects.

0:28:580:29:00

-Right.

-If I were to say to you... I think the value, go this way...

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I think the value of it now is probably,

0:29:030:29:05

looking at the condition and things I'm uncertain about...

0:29:050:29:08

-Yes.

-..I think probably it's worth between £80-£120 at auction.

-OK.

0:29:080:29:12

Well, that's double what I paid for it, so that's fine.

0:29:120:29:14

Right. Well, that's not a bad return.

0:29:140:29:16

-That's good.

-I think 80-120.

0:29:160:29:17

Which is what we call auctioneer's favourite, but I think £80 to £120,

0:29:170:29:20

maybe a £70 reserve, and...

0:29:200:29:23

-Someone will love it.

-Someone will love it.

0:29:230:29:25

-Did you love it?

-Yes, I had a copy made of it,

0:29:250:29:26

so even when it's gone, I've got a copy. So...

0:29:260:29:29

And who made the copy?

0:29:290:29:30

My father made it, he used to work in a film studio, so...

0:29:300:29:33

-OK.

-..he got the property department to make me a copy, a bit bigger.

0:29:330:29:36

But it hasn't got a crown and sceptre.

0:29:360:29:38

So probably with the money...

0:29:380:29:39

I'll sell it, I'll buy a crown and sceptre.

0:29:390:29:41

-What more could you want?

-What more could you want?

0:29:410:29:44

What an unusual item.

0:29:460:29:48

Let's hope it gets the bidders intrigued at auction.

0:29:480:29:50

But before that, we're heading to Morecambe,

0:29:530:29:55

where Charles Hanson is being his usual charming self.

0:29:550:29:58

Isabel, you look a lady who likes to dress well.

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-Am I correct?

-Well, yes, but I've never worn those.

0:30:040:30:07

-Why?

-Because I didn't know they existed until about ten months ago.

0:30:070:30:11

-You just found them?

-I found them under my mum's bed.

0:30:110:30:13

You didn't!

0:30:130:30:15

-What do you think of them?

-I like them, I think they're very pretty.

0:30:150:30:18

-What are they?

-Buttons?

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Yes, they are, and they really capture

0:30:200:30:22

an age of sophistication.

0:30:220:30:24

When eloquence in dress and etiquette was at the height

0:30:240:30:29

under Victorian England.

0:30:290:30:30

If you look closely, they are pressed silver.

0:30:300:30:34

We know they were made in Birmingham in 1900 because

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they are so well defined in the metal,

0:30:400:30:42

I need not put my eyeglass to them.

0:30:420:30:44

There's an anchor. And this carries date letter A.

0:30:440:30:48

-Right.

-And A defines the year 1900.

0:30:480:30:52

You've also got the mark here R&W, for Reynolds & Westwood,

0:30:520:30:57

and the all-important lion passant, which means the alloy of silver

0:30:570:31:02

is 92.5% within copper.

0:31:020:31:05

-So it's a very high purity of silver.

-Good.

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And when it comes to silver generally across the world

0:31:080:31:11

English silver is the most pure.

0:31:110:31:14

And what I like about them is the fact that they are in

0:31:140:31:17

what we call the Neo-Rococo style.

0:31:170:31:19

-Right.

-The Victorians revived styles,

0:31:190:31:21

and if you look closely you'll see all these C scrolls.

0:31:210:31:26

They're pierced as well.

0:31:260:31:28

If I hold it like that, you'll see the rays of light going through.

0:31:280:31:34

They're frivolous.

0:31:340:31:35

They're fanciful.

0:31:350:31:37

They were almost black when I found them.

0:31:370:31:38

-They weren't!

-They were.

0:31:380:31:40

I polished them, but only the once.

0:31:400:31:42

Yeah, and that's why they've kept such clarity and detail.

0:31:420:31:44

Yes, probably. Yes.

0:31:440:31:46

Because the more you rub silver, the more you rub hallmarks away.

0:31:460:31:50

And of course the weight and the detail, which collectors look for.

0:31:500:31:55

I'd like to place a guide price on them, with your blessing,

0:31:550:31:58

of between £60 and £90.

0:31:580:32:01

-OK, yeah.

-And I'm fairly fixed in my opinion,

0:32:010:32:05

but we can place a reserve on at £60.

0:32:050:32:09

-Good.

-So, with your blessing...

0:32:090:32:10

-Yeah, that'll be fine.

-They're not sewn on there, are they?

0:32:100:32:13

-No!

-They can go to auction.

0:32:130:32:15

I'm sure somebody might have the perfect outfit.

0:32:150:32:17

-Mm.

-Thank you very much for coming in today.

-Thank you.

0:32:170:32:21

Those buttons were quality items.

0:32:210:32:23

Hopefully, they'll do well.

0:32:230:32:24

Finally, we're off to Grimsby Minster,

0:32:270:32:29

where Michael Baggott has spotted a rodent in the building.

0:32:290:32:32

Doreen. You've brought me a rat on a hat.

0:32:360:32:38

-I certainly have.

-Where did you get your rat on a hat?

0:32:380:32:42

Well, my dad brought it home after the war.

0:32:420:32:45

And he brought it home

0:32:450:32:46

because it reminded him of me because I was a little girl,

0:32:460:32:49

he used to call me Mouse.

0:32:490:32:51

Oh, right, right, I see.

0:32:510:32:53

What we've got is a little bamboo hat,

0:32:530:32:56

or a little rush hat tied up.

0:32:560:32:58

Mr Rat's got to it and he's been gnawing through the top of it.

0:32:580:33:03

Now, we don't particularly like rats in this country,

0:33:030:33:07

but in Japan, if you've got rats, you've got rats because you're

0:33:070:33:13

abundant with crops, so actually they're a sign of good luck.

0:33:130:33:16

-OK.

-Now, if we turn it over, it's beautifully carved out of ivory,

0:33:160:33:21

and we've got this beautiful cord,

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and a little retaining ring for the hat,

0:33:230:33:26

and what's clever there is we've got that ring

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and then we've got a space where it lifts there,

0:33:290:33:32

which is effectively giving us two holes,

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and that's a clue as to what this is for.

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And it's what we call a netsuke.

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Now, if you were in Japan prior to 1874,

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when they banned feudal dress, you would be wearing your costume.

0:33:440:33:49

-Yes.

-Pocket-less.

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Tied together with a big sash.

0:33:510:33:53

So where did you put everything?

0:33:530:33:55

You had little... And they're called sagemono, or hanging things,

0:33:560:34:01

that you would tuck under your belt.

0:34:010:34:04

-Yes.

-On a cord.

0:34:040:34:06

And they're all secured when they come through with a toggle.

0:34:060:34:10

And the cord has to pass through that toggle through two holes,

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and that's what this netsuke does.

0:34:140:34:16

-Oh.

-It's carved anywhere between about 1820 and about 1860.

0:34:160:34:23

-Really?

-So, as a piece of ivory,

0:34:230:34:25

we know there are legislations with ivory.

0:34:250:34:27

This is 100 years within those legislations.

0:34:270:34:32

-Yeah.

-And also it's a beautiful work of art.

0:34:320:34:35

There is one downside, though.

0:34:360:34:38

Had you noticed before today?

0:34:380:34:40

-No.

-At some time, Ratty's had a blow.

0:34:400:34:44

Cracked along there and he's been glued back on.

0:34:440:34:47

Now, for most pure collectors of Japanese works of art

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that's a complete no-no.

0:34:510:34:53

That spoils it.

0:34:530:34:55

But he's absolutely charming.

0:34:550:34:57

Have you any idea what it might be worth?

0:34:570:34:59

-Not really.

-At auction, if we were to put £100-£150 on it...

0:34:590:35:05

-Oh, really?

-And a fixed reserve of £100.

0:35:050:35:08

Because he's super quality.

0:35:080:35:11

-Yes.

-I mean, the sad thing is, I think he's so charming

0:35:110:35:16

that in perfect condition everybody would have wanted him,

0:35:160:35:19

and he might have been...

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£500, £600, £700.

0:35:210:35:24

But condition with Japanese works of art is everything.

0:35:240:35:27

-I see.

-But it's still a beautiful thing, and I hope the little...

0:35:270:35:32

the little rat which was a mouse to you and your father,

0:35:320:35:35

-we'll find him a good home. Promise.

-Thank you.

0:35:350:35:38

Well, that's it for our last lot of items

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and we'll see how they fare in auction shortly.

0:35:490:35:51

But before that, I wanted to show you

0:35:510:35:53

this rather stunning Kingwood Cabinet.

0:35:530:35:55

It's known to the family as a Mass cabinet.

0:35:550:35:58

We already heard that the family were unable

0:35:580:36:01

to celebrate Catholicism publicly,

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they had to do so in secret for some 200 years.

0:36:030:36:07

Now, if I open up this cabinet

0:36:070:36:09

and look deeper, there's more to it.

0:36:090:36:11

You can see the beautiful book-match Kingwood veneers.

0:36:130:36:16

And look at this, a wonderful fitted interior.

0:36:160:36:19

There's another door to open.

0:36:190:36:22

And this takes you virtually into another world.

0:36:220:36:24

Look at this. This mirrored interior here,

0:36:240:36:27

which looks a lot deeper than it actually is.

0:36:270:36:30

There's an illusion in there, which is wonderful,

0:36:300:36:32

it makes you actually travel deep into this cabinet.

0:36:320:36:36

Now, this could be used as an altar.

0:36:360:36:38

And let me show you something in the fitted interior.

0:36:380:36:41

If I just take a couple of these little tiny drawers out.

0:36:410:36:46

Now, that one is that deep.

0:36:460:36:48

If I pull this one out...

0:36:480:36:50

Look at the depth of that one.

0:36:500:36:52

That tells me something.

0:36:520:36:54

That tells me that if I pull something in here...

0:36:540:36:59

Look at that, there's a little tiny box on a slide.

0:37:010:37:05

That went behind that draw.

0:37:050:37:07

There you could hide away religious artefacts and reliquaries

0:37:080:37:12

to use for Holy Communion.

0:37:120:37:14

I think that is rather stunning.

0:37:140:37:18

The condition is superb

0:37:180:37:19

and these wonderful book-match veneers, as you can see,

0:37:190:37:22

all of these are just cross sections of small branches, all hand-cut.

0:37:220:37:27

Planed down by hand to a thickness of around about 1.5 millimetres,

0:37:270:37:32

and then glued precisely to mirror and echo each other.

0:37:320:37:36

And it speaks volumes of the craftsmanship.

0:37:360:37:39

Back in the day, that would have cost a great deal of money.

0:37:390:37:41

Today, it's probably worth a small fortune.

0:37:410:37:44

And right now we're going to find out

0:37:440:37:45

exactly what our pieces are worth over in the auction rooms.

0:37:450:37:48

And here's a quick recap, just to jog your memory,

0:37:480:37:50

of all the items going under the hammer.

0:37:500:37:52

At our valuation day in St Albans Cathedral,

0:37:580:38:00

John's regal plinth baffled everyone.

0:38:000:38:02

Charles loved Isabel's silver buttons

0:38:040:38:06

when he spotted them in Morecambe.

0:38:060:38:08

And finally, Doreen has big hopes for a little Japanese netsuke,

0:38:080:38:13

valued in Grimsby Minster.

0:38:130:38:15

Remember, it's old ivory, so perfectly legal to sell.

0:38:150:38:18

So, it's time to sell.

0:38:270:38:29

And first we're returning to Tring Market Auctions

0:38:290:38:31

for John's unusual plinth.

0:38:310:38:33

Two of you want it. 50...

0:38:330:38:36

Auctioneer Stephen Hearn's still on the rostrum.

0:38:360:38:39

Going under the hammer now, one of my favourite lots of the day.

0:38:400:38:43

I fell in love with this coronation plinth.

0:38:430:38:45

It's a proper decorator's lot.

0:38:450:38:47

-And I know you won't miss it.

-No.

0:38:470:38:48

Because you've had a copy made of it.

0:38:480:38:50

Well, I loved it so much I had a copy made, yes.

0:38:500:38:53

Dad's done that, look. Oh, it's gone.

0:38:530:38:55

-It's over there.

-It's over there.

-Oh, there it is. It was behind me.

0:38:550:38:58

Yeah, my father worked in a film studio,

0:38:580:38:59

he got the property men to make it out of spare bits of wood.

0:38:590:39:02

-Yeah.

-So now I've got that forever for me.

0:39:020:39:04

Good, good luck. It's going under the hammer right now.

0:39:040:39:07

Here we go.

0:39:070:39:08

How about 100 for it?

0:39:080:39:09

50 for it? 40?

0:39:090:39:11

Five. 50. Five.

0:39:110:39:13

60. Five, sir?

0:39:130:39:15

At £60, then, going...

0:39:150:39:17

Surely one more? No.

0:39:170:39:19

-Are you sure?

-It's amazing.

0:39:190:39:20

Down, then, for £60.

0:39:200:39:23

Leave that one, thank you very much.

0:39:230:39:25

No, he's not going to sell it.

0:39:250:39:26

He was asking for 60, he said we'll leave that one.

0:39:260:39:29

OK. That's fine.

0:39:290:39:31

I can love it for a bit longer.

0:39:310:39:33

Do you know what? I'm shocked. Absolutely shocked.

0:39:330:39:36

Well, look, now you've got two.

0:39:360:39:37

I've got two now, yeah. I was thinking of making that one into a coffee table.

0:39:370:39:40

That's a good idea. That's big enough.

0:39:400:39:42

-And then you can put the other one on top, you see.

-That's it! Yes.

0:39:420:39:46

Next we're travelling to Silverwoods in Clitheroe,

0:39:490:39:52

where auctioneer Wilf Mould's the man of the moment.

0:39:520:39:55

90 is on the books. 95 in the room.

0:39:550:39:57

He is about to sell Isabel's buttons.

0:39:570:40:00

I never thought I'd say this, but the next lot I absolutely adore.

0:40:000:40:03

I really do, believe me, and I'm not a button person.

0:40:030:40:06

-Would you wear them, Paul?

-No, they're not for a guy, are they?

0:40:060:40:10

Unless you went back in time to sort of, you know, the late 1600s.

0:40:100:40:13

They've got that Rococo style to them, nice and fussy,

0:40:130:40:16

but I think they're brilliant. Absolutely... Yeah.

0:40:160:40:19

And I tell you what, if I was a girl I'd buy these.

0:40:190:40:22

-Good.

-And I'd sew them onto a jacket or blazer or something.

0:40:220:40:24

Because I think they're fun. So who's going to buy these buttons?

0:40:240:40:27

Let's find out. There's not many women in the room, is there?

0:40:270:40:30

-No.

-Hopefully they'll go online to a collector.

0:40:300:40:32

We're going to find out right now. This is it.

0:40:320:40:35

Right, this set of six silver buttons.

0:40:350:40:37

Who'll start me at, what, £70 for these?

0:40:370:40:39

£70? Or 60, then?

0:40:390:40:41

-Come on.

-60, and be quick.

0:40:410:40:42

35. 35, 38, 40, £40.

0:40:420:40:44

£40. 42. 45.

0:40:440:40:47

45. 48 and 50.

0:40:470:40:49

£50. 55. 60 this time.

0:40:490:40:51

£60 is in the room.

0:40:510:40:54

-Good.

-£60 from the lady.

0:40:540:40:56

65 from anybody else.

0:40:560:40:57

Who wants these? I'm selling away at £60.

0:40:570:41:02

That's a good round figure, isn't it?

0:41:020:41:03

£10 a button, everyone's thought.

0:41:030:41:05

-We're pleased, aren't we?

-That's fine. Yes.

-They've gone.

0:41:050:41:07

-Yes.

-And it was a pleasant find, wasn't it?

-It was.

0:41:070:41:10

I think Isabel was happy with that.

0:41:120:41:14

Now, for our final item, we're returning to Lincoln,

0:41:140:41:17

but this time John Leat is wielding the gavel,

0:41:170:41:20

and hoping to make a good price for Doreen's little netsuke.

0:41:200:41:23

It may be small, but it's extremely beautiful.

0:41:250:41:28

I'm talking about Doreen's netsuke.

0:41:280:41:29

It's going under the hammer right now.

0:41:290:41:31

Not a lot of money, around £100-£200,

0:41:310:41:34

but did you hear what Michael said?

0:41:340:41:36

In good condition maybe 600.

0:41:360:41:38

-Yeah.

-That was cruel, wasn't it?

-That's a tease.

-Twisting the knife.

0:41:380:41:41

That is a tease, but do you know what?

0:41:410:41:43

The carving, the rope work is superb.

0:41:430:41:45

So, fingers crossed. Ready for this?

0:41:450:41:47

-Yes.

-I'm going to enjoy this.

0:41:470:41:48

Let's hope for top money on this, because it's exquisite.

0:41:480:41:51

It's going under the hammer now.

0:41:510:41:54

Nice little quality carving, this one, and I'll start it at £80.

0:41:540:41:57

At £80 here with me. £80, on the commission with 80.

0:41:570:41:59

90. 95. 100.

0:41:590:42:02

And ten. 120.

0:42:020:42:03

130.

0:42:030:42:04

140.

0:42:040:42:05

150.

0:42:050:42:06

160 on the internet, 160. Anybody else that wants it?

0:42:060:42:08

150 on the internet.

0:42:080:42:11

180 now. 180 on the net. Anyone else...?

0:42:110:42:13

180, yes, come on.

0:42:130:42:14

On the internet, 190.

0:42:140:42:16

At £200 on the internet.

0:42:160:42:17

Anyone else at two? At 220 now. At 220 on the internet.

0:42:170:42:20

Anybody else at 220? At 220?

0:42:200:42:21

Are you all done? I'm going to sell it.

0:42:210:42:23

£220, all done, then?

0:42:230:42:25

-Yes, £220.

-Fabulous.

-And that was a real work of art.

0:42:250:42:29

It's a brilliant price, but I still think that was a bargain.

0:42:290:42:32

But that's just the market, the way it is.

0:42:320:42:34

I'm thrilled with that.

0:42:340:42:36

Brilliant. Brilliant.

0:42:360:42:37

Oh, good, and thank you for bringing it in, as well.

0:42:370:42:39

Thank you.

0:42:390:42:40

Well, that's it for today's show.

0:42:500:42:52

I've had a marvellous time here at Coughton Court,

0:42:520:42:54

learning all about the house and the family's ups and downs.

0:42:540:42:58

And we've also had our downs and ups

0:42:580:43:00

in auction rooms across the country.

0:43:000:43:03

I was particularly pleased with Doreen's Japanese netsuke.

0:43:030:43:06

That was a little gem that did particularly well.

0:43:060:43:08

If you've got something like that,

0:43:080:43:09

bring it along to one of our valuation days.

0:43:090:43:12

So, until the next time, it's goodbye.

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