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This view can only mean one thing.

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Yes, we are in London but we're not at Canary Wharf today.

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We're the other side of the River Thames.

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We're here at the old Royal Naval College in Greenwich.

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This magnificent building was designed by Sir Christopher Wren and I'm

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rather pleased to say for one day only it's home to our valuation day.

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Hundreds of people have turned up from London and beyond, laden with

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antiques and collectables.

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They're here to see our experts to find out, what's it worth?

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And if you're happy with the valuation, what are you going to do?

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-ALL:

-Flog it!

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Greenwich is renowned for its maritime history and it's world famous for

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the meridian that's used to set our clocks according to Greenwich Mean Time.

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Prior to the late 19th century,

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timekeeping was a local phenomenon.

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It wasn't until 1847 that the railways introduced a standardised time to

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help produce train schedules.

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Today, I'm standing on one of the most historic sites in London.

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There was once a medieval palace here,

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which was a favourite home to the royals.

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Henry VIII, Mary I and Elizabeth I

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were all born here and would have

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played in the grounds as young children.

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In the 18th century, it opened its doors as the Royal Naval Hospital

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and welcomed thousands of retired Navy pensioners

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who lived here in pleasant retirement.

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We'll be finding out more about that later on in the show but

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right now we need to get the doors open to get this massive queue inside

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because they're eager to find out the answer to that all-important

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question, which is...

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-ALL:

-What's it worth?

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Our expert Mark Stacey makes sure everyone knows what his role is in the show.

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-I would like to flog it.

-Oh, well, you see, that's why we're here.

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-Well, flog it.

-Because that's what the show's called, isn't it?

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Although Philip Serrell seems to be shirking his responsibilities.

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I really love a man that gives you a thing like this because look,

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he's done all the work, look.

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Hello, how are you?

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And there's always a bit of drama when these two get together.

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Sorry to interrupt. I've found you a wonderful drawing you're going to love.

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-What's that?

-I can't tell you that.

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But I'll show you later but I am sure you're going to want to film it.

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-All right, that's lovely.

-It's right up your street.

-Thank you. Life's always a mystery with Mr Stacey.

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All the action will take place in the gorgeous painted hall that has been

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described as the Sistine Chapel of the UK.

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So while we're getting everyone in, here's a quick look at what's coming up.

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Mark meets an extraordinary man with a fan.

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You took up running at 62?

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-Yes.

-And then what did you do?

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I did 16 marathons.

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-16 marathons, London marathons?

-Yes.

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And Philip's valuation comes as a bit of a shock.

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GASPS

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They've been stuck in a tin, that's been stuck in a cardboard,

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-on the wall.

-Do you think you'll get more?

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And later on in the show, I'll be finding out more about some of the

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pensioners who lived here, and it seems even these grand settings didn't

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stop drunkenness and bad behaviour.

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The architecture here is fantastic.

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So while everyone is settling in,

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let me show you this view from Queen's House.

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When the architect Sir Christopher Wren

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designed this refuge for retired naval veterans in 1696,

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all the plans were meticulously thought through.

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Everything was perfectly symmetrical.

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However, there was one command from Queen Mary II not to spoil the view.

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So this line was left right down the middle,

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creating a gap between the two towers,

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so the royal household could continue looking at the River Thames.

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And right now it's time to go inside and catch up with expert Philip Serrell

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and enjoy the view on his table as we take a closer look at his first item.

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-Tim, how are you?

-I'm OK, thanks, how are you?

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-And are you local?

-Yes, not far away, yes.

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I was desperate to do this the minute I saw this.

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Yes, I noticed you spotted it, yes.

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-I'm glad you did.

-Well, not because of value.

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-No.

-That's a bit of my childhood.

-And mine.

-Really?

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-Yes, it's my own.

-And have you had that since a child?

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-Yes, I have.

-Muffin the Mule started on BBC television in 1946.

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-Yes.

-And was very much an icon of children's television.

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And Matchbox made this model of Muffin the Mule.

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Oh, I didn't know that.

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Yes. I look back at my childhood and I can remember the black and white

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children's television. Andy Pandy, never really got Andy,

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got on with Andy Pandy.

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I thought Bill and Ben were a bit dull, really.

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Yeah, bit more lively.

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But Muffin the Mule was a great character.

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Used to come home after school, watch Muffin the Mule, great stuff.

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-A good memory.

-What do you think it's worth now?

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Not a lot, I don't suppose?

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I think we put a £30 to £50 estimate on it,

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put a reserve on it of £30 and see where we go?

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-Yeah.

-There is one thing that we need to do before we go any further.

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Oh, have a little play?

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Have a little play.

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Are you ready? One, two, three, up.

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There we are. Look at that.

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We've got to try and walk a bit. We're not going anywhere.

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As puppeteers, this isn't doing it, really, is it?

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He used to sit down, didn't he, like that.

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Look at that. That's good. We've got that going really well.

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-Teamwork.

-We'll finish there.

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-Teamwork.

-You're happy with that, yeah?

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-Good to see you.

-Thanks a lot.

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# We want Muffin

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# Muffin the Mule

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# Dear old muffin, playing the fool

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# We want Muffin, everybody sing

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# We want muffin the Mule! #

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While Philip is horsing around,

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I've made a tactical move towards this chess set.

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Barbara, an incredible chess set.

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I play chess, I love chess.

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My son plays chess as well. Do you play chess?

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-No.

-But you got one of the best chess sets I've ever seen, and it's boxed,

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original box.

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So, how long have you had this?

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-Seven years.

-How did you come by this?

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-In a boot sale.

-Oh, don't tell me you paid next to nothing for it?

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-How much did you pay?

-Well, we paid £30.

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That was quite a lot, we thought.

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It is next to nothing for what it is, though.

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£30, considering it's boxed, and it's all there.

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You know they are made by Jaques, don't you,

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a great London maker that dates to the end of the 18th century,

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like the 1790s, they started making quality games.

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They introduced this Staunton set in around 1846,

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named after the grand chess master Howard Staunton.

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There, look, you see Howard Staunton.

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You can see Jaques on the paper label.

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You can see it's got its original mahogany, Cuban mahogany box,

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original lock, hinges, escutcheon, it's all there.

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There's no damage. The right lining as well.

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That's what the collectors want. That box belongs with that set.

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Have you noticed something when you pick these up?

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Pick one up.

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-They are quite heavy.

-That's boxwood, yes, it shouldn't be that heavy.

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It is weighted with a little bit of lead in there.

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What's the idea with that?

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Well, it stops them from wobbling on the board.

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These have been varnished.

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These have been ebonised, they've been stained to look like ebony.

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I have two Staunton chess sets at home.

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Now, they are not the weighted ones, they are the cheaper version of this.

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Also, they came in a cardboard box, not a wooden box.

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This is the Rolls-Royce of Staunton chess pieces.

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This is circa 1900, 1910.

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There is a bit of age to these.

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I think they are fantastic.

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One of the pawns has been replaced.

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It's not original. That one, there.

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Oh, right.

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Also, on the black bishop, it is missing a little tiny finial, there.

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-Can you see that? It's not the same as that one.

-Oh, I see, yes.

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Also, on the king's crown, the king, can you see that?

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-Yes, the top.

-The crown, half of the crown's missing.

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How much do you think they're worth?

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-I haven't got a clue.

-Well, you paid £30 for them.

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I'd say we put them into auction with a valuation of a minimum of £300.

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Very good.

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Yes. Fixed reserve, 300, with the box.

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I'm going to say an auction guide of £300 to £500, with the box,

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as a complete set.

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Lovely, even better.

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Is it something you're prepared to sell?

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Yes. It's only been in the loft.

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-Shall we put them into auction?

-Yes.

-Can't wait to see who inches it.

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Barbara, you've made my day.

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Now it's time to see how the other tables are shaping up.

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-Thanks for coming to Flog It!

-Thank you.

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You brought in this ridiculous little mannequin.

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-Yes.

-It is wonderful, isn't it?

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-She's beautiful.

-How long have you had it?

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About 20 years.

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Why did you get it?

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Because I wanted something to hang my necklaces on.

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Oh, yes, of course.

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There were too many, they all started falling off.

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-She's got to go.

-You've got too many?

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You'll have to get rid of the necklaces, as well.

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-So, where did you find it? At a market or something?

-Yes.

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Can you remember what you paid?

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-Around about £1.

-No!

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-Yes.

-Gosh, that's a bargain.

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-She's beautiful. For £1.

-I think it's great.

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I can't quite work out exactly what it's for.

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-No.

-It could be,

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the Stockmans are quite well known for making shop mannequins.

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Or mannequins for seamstresses, fashion designers.

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It was a young sculptor, Frederick Stockman, in Paris,

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who made the original mannequins out of papier mache.

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Oh, really?

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I wonder whether it may be a tradesman's sample.

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You know, that a travelling salesman could take along with him and show

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the quality of the stitching.

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It's really nicely made.

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-I think it probably dates from the 1930s.

-Really?

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Cos it's got a nice oak base.

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This is nicely aged.

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They're very proud to put the name on there, they are proud of their...

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-Yes.

-..their items, their stock.

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I think it's great fun. You've had it a long time.

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How much do you think it's worth?

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I have no idea.

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Neither do I, in fairness!

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Maybe more, if I put a necklace on it.

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Maybe, if it was a gold necklace.

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I think, actually, we've got to have a little stab at it, really.

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I think if we put it in at £40 to £60 and see what happens.

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The life-size mannequins can make hundreds of pounds.

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I think somebody would really like this.

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I think if we put £40 to £60 on it, but put a £40 reserve, fixed.

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But I think it will make a bit more than that. I think it's wonderful.

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-Let's give it a go, shall we?

-Yes, please.

-Thank you, Anne.

-Thank you.

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Well, the atmosphere is certainly buzzing.

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We're having a fantastic day here.

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Hundreds of people are enjoying these impressive surroundings and

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our experts have worked flat out so far.

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They've found their first items to take off to the saleroom.

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I've got my favourites, you probably got yours.

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But, right now, it's going to be down to the bidders to decide.

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Here's a quick recap of all the items going under the hammer.

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Let's hope this Muffin the Mule puppet

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will pull someone's strings at the auction.

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I've made a brave move in valuing this lovely chess set that Barbara

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brought in. Let's hope we can win on the day.

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And she's used to being on display,

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so let's hope we find the right fit for Anne's mini mannequin.

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Our auction destination today is along the River Thames,

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to West London, in the district of Chiswick.

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Chiswick is a village turned desirable suburb,

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with attractive period properties and generous green space.

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Just up the road at Chiswick Auctions,

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William Rouse is putting our desirables to the test.

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Remember, you will be paying a seller's commission to the saleroom,

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which here is 15% plus VAT.

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Now, if I said Muffin the Mule,

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I bet that brings back memories to many of you.

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I've just been joined by Tim and Philip, our expert,

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who put the value on this.

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-It's great to see you.

-Good to see you, too.

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I can remember, as a young lad, playing with one of these.

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I can remember seeing it in black and white on TV.

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Did you watch Muffin the Mule?

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I loved Muffin the Mule. It's one of my favourites.

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I can't remember any kind of storyline or anything like that.

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I can just remember the mule dancing up and down and the puppeteer with

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all the strings. It's iconic telly.

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That was early BBC.

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Good luck with that. Here we go, this is your lot.

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321, Muffin the Mule.

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A 1950s cold painted metal puppet.

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What's it worth to start me, £30?

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It's got to be worth that. £30 for it.

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30 is bid.

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32 in the room.

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35, 38.

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40. 42. 45. 48.

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50.

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Are we all done, then? £50 it is then.

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That's good. You were spot on, Philip. Are there many left?

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I think there can't be that many left,

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because that's why the ones that are make £50 a time, really.

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That was yours as a young lad, wasn't it?

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Do you feel a little bit sad?

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-I would be.

-I think perhaps I've grown up since then.

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I haven't, nor has he.

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We definitely haven't, have we?

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Let's hope Muffin the Mule will live on for few more years to come.

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Now, I wonder how our next lot will shape up?

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Hopefully we can turn £1 into around £40 or £50.

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That's what Anne would dearly love, wouldn't you?

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Our little mini mannequin cost £1 about 20 years ago.

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You've been hanging your necklaces on it for the last 20-odd years.

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£40 - £60, I agree with that.

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Good quality, good condition, good make.

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I think it might make a bit of a profit.

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People like those quirky things.

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-They do.

-They're very good to buy.

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Anyway, let's find out what this little one makes.

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It's going under the hammer right now.

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381, a miniature mannequin.

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I have not seen one of these before.

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I'm straight in at 40

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and I'm bid £40, 45... I'm bid £50.

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-£50.

-15?

-55 in the room against me.

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55, 60, 65,

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70, 75, 80.

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80 is very good.

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At £80 to my far left.

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Are you all finished? £80 for you, madam.

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-£80.

-And it's going home.

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Thank you very much.

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-Thank you, we enjoyed that. We thoroughly enjoyed that.

-I loved it.

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-Thank you so much.

-It's a good decorator's item.

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And if you've got anything like that, we would love to flog it for you.

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Bring it along to one of our valuation days and fingers crossed we'll be

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coming to a venue near you soon, so dust them down and bring them in.

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Details of the venues are on our BBC website or the BBC Facebook.

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Check it out and join in.

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Anyone for a game of chess?

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Barbara, the big day is now upon us.

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We are here in the saleroom in Chiswick.

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We're talking about the Staunton chess set.

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It's fabulous, I love it and I'd love to buy it,

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but I tell you what, I bet 3-5 on this.

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Remind us, how much did you pay for this?

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£30.

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You're going to be in the money.

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She's going to be in the money. I'd like 550.

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I'd like the top end of my estimate, that's what I'd like.

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-Just that little bit more.

-I'd like that as well!

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I bet you would. Well, let's keep our fingers crossed, OK,

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because it's an auction and anything can happen and that's why they are such great fun.

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And this chess set is going under the hammer right now.

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401 is a Staunton chess set and,

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goodness me, lots of interest in this.

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Lots of interest and a phone bid.

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Straight in at the reserve of 300 and 320.

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I'll take elsewhere, with me at 300.

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340, 360, 380,

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380. 400 on the telephone, 420 with me.

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440, 460, 480, 500.

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550, 600, 620.

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No, I've got £600 and the next bid is 20 if you want it.

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At £600 it's a commission bid.

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With me, then, 600, all done and finished.

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Yes, 600!

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You see, that's quality, a great name, beautiful weight,

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beautifully modelled pieces. What are you going to do with that £600?

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There is commission to pay, everyone has to pay that.

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We'll probably go on a holiday.

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OK? And thank you so much for coming in.

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-It's been a real pleasure because that item was dear to my heart.

-Thanks so much. Yes.

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300...340 in the room.

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Well, that's it, that's our first lots under the hammer.

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We are coming back here later in the show, so don't go away.

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We could have that big surprise. Meanwhile,

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back in Greenwich at the old Royal Naval College, I had the opportunity

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to visit the painted hall and find out more about the pensioners who once lived there.

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So, just before the valuation day I took a guided tour,

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but this was no ordinary tour.

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This was an 18th-century tour with the artist as my guide.

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King William III granted this site as a refuge for old and wounded naval veterans.

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He wanted a Royal Hospital for seamen to be built in memory of

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his late wife Queen Mary II who strongly believed that the country

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owed a debt of gratitude to the sailors who had served.

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Sir Christopher Wren's grand design would show the nation's true appreciation.

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Oh, hi, thank you very much.

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There's your money. Thank you.

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This is just spectacular.

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Look at this!

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Wow! It's breathtaking.

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Imagine a life at sea.

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It's dangerous, it's rough and ready,

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and then you spend your retirement here.

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Originally, this was intended as the dining hall for naval pensioners but

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it was rarely used as one.

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When Sir James Thornhill created his masterpiece on the ceiling there and

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on the walls, everybody just wanted to come in here and look at it.

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I don't blame them because it's jaw-dropping.

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So this quickly became Greenwich's first tourist attraction and many of

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the pensioners that lived here became tour guides.

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The first naval pensioners arrived in 1705

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before building work had even been completed.

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Many of the residents who lived here would have literally seen this room

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take shape and watched Thornhill while he worked.

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The lower hall was finally completed in 1712 and opened to the public

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a couple of years later.

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Now, upon entry, you would pay sixpence for the tour and be given

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a printed booklet.

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I have a copy of one.

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It was produced by Thornhill and it gave a wonderful explanation

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of his work and I'll read you a little bit.

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"Out of all that is given for showing these halls,

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"only three pence in the shilling is allowed to the person that shows it.

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"The rest makes an excellent fund for the yearly maintenance of 140 poor boys

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"who are the sons of mariners that have either been slain or disabled

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"in their service to the country."

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And it goes on to say how this fund keeps "the boys", as he calls them,

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clothed and fed.

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Now, I like that.

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Well, I've paid my sixpence and now I'm meeting with curator Will Palin

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who will explain a bit more about the 18th-century tour.

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So, Will, if I came here as a visitor, let's say, back in 1714,

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is this exactly what I would see?

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Well, you would have had a lot of scaffolding here

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because James Thornhill had just finished the first phase.

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I mean, it is quite impressive, isn't it?

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It really is. There's a lot of detail up there.

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A huge amount of detail and if you stand here and look and spend time

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unravelling the imagery here, you can be here for hours.

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The fact that he produced this little printed booklet - that meant a lot to him.

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He needed to explain what was going on?

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Absolutely. I think people imagine that at the time all this imagery

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would have been easy for the average visitor to understand,

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but of course it wasn't.

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So he thought it was very important to make sure

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that the visitor was armed with a guide so he could decipher and penetrate

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some of the complex allegories and mythology in the painting itself.

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In the booklet, he talks about peace and liberty.

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That's right, the centrepiece shows William III and Mary II,

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who were the founders of the Royal Hospital, under a canopy of state,

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surrounded by the virtues

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and he is trampling on a figure of arbitrary power and tyranny

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and that is Louis XIV,

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so we have William and Mary bringing peace and liberty to Europe and

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triumphing over the Catholic monarchs

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and the tyranny they represent.

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So it's more of a political statement going on up there?

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Absolutely. And of course it's interesting reading between the lines.

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It's a show of confidence and also there's an element of insecurity

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because we were in the ascendancy in Europe,

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certainly in terms of our naval power,

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-but there were still big threats...

-Sure.

-..from Spain, from France.

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So this is asserting a certain world view that we hoped would come to fruition.

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At a staggering 5,683 square feet, the painted hall ceiling was,

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and still is, the largest figurative painting in the country.

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This was Thornhill's greatest achievement

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and he was given a knighthood for his work.

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We know that when he wrote the booklet

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there were around 140 live-in naval pensioners.

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By 1820, there were more than 3,000 residents.

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Let's talk about some of the pensioners who lived here

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and who possibly became tour guides.

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Sure. It must have been a funny thing if you arrived here

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as a sort of naval veteran, a decades-old seaman...

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-Rough and ready.

-..and see this palace.

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It must have been completely overwhelming and slightly absurd.

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But they inhabited these buildings and they lived here,

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quite a boring existence at the time, there was very little to do.

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They were kept going with a very large beer ration.

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There was one particular individual called John Worley who lived until

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-he was 90-plus.

-That's a ripe old age, isn't it?

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Absolutely. He was a real troublemaker

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and he caught Thornhill's eye

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and Thornhill thought this mischievous man was rather amusing

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-and he painted him into the ceiling.

-Did he?

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So, you see the figure with the white beard representing winter.

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That is John Worley himself.

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So it's a nice reference to the pensioners themselves.

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-I think it was the booze that kept him going.

-I'm sure it was.

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In 1824, the painted hall became the National Gallery for Naval Art.

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Paintings covered Thornhill's painted walls, and pensioners

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could earn extra pocket money by giving tours.

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All of these naval paintings are now held at the National Maritime Museum.

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This is a print of an oil painting by Andrew Morton,

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titled United Services 1845.

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It shows us the Chelsea army pensioners in their familiar red coats

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with the Greenwich naval pensioners with their blue coats on.

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But it also shows us a veteran black sailor here, look, Deman,

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who served with Nelson in the West Indies.

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As a boy aged around 13, he came to England and joined the Navy

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and he served in Admiral Lord Nelson's fleet on various ships

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and it's believed he was injured at the Battle of the Nile.

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Being unfit for active duty, he entered Greenwich Hospital

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around the turn of the century, where he gave tours.

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Deman's death was recorded in 1847,

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two years after this painting was displayed at the Royal Academy.

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It really is quite surprising that during the 1850s more than 350 of

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the seamen that lived here came from overseas, including Europe, Africa,

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Asia and the Caribbean, all of whom served Britain in battles at sea.

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Applications to the hospital fell rapidly during the 19th century,

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thanks to a long period of peace

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after the victory in the Napoleonic Wars.

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The hospital closed in 1869.

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The buildings were then taken over by the Royal Naval College for

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officers' training until 1998.

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Although the pensioners are long gone,

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the doors have been opened to the public

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and it is free for all, for everyone

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to come and look around and gaze in wonder at this incredible hall.

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That was yesterday. Today, the hall is packed with people enjoying

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the lovely backdrop and waiting for valuations,

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so we had better get on with it.

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Let's see if Philip is on the right track.

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-Rob, how are you doing? All right?

-Yes.

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So you've come by train today, have you?

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-Not exactly, no.

-So, was this yours originally?

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Yeah, it was mine.

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This box was the first present and every Christmas I'd get another box

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-with bits and pieces added.

-If we pick it up,

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it's got the name that you want to see, hasn't it? Hornby.

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What's interesting for me is that this was bought for you in the '50s.

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You can kind of work out

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that you must be somewhere between 63 and 67.

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-Yes, spot on.

-Good detective work, eh?

0:27:060:27:10

And is this something that you've always treasured?

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Yes, I enjoyed it for years and years and years. I played the living

0:27:120:27:15

daylights out of it and that's why it's in such a rough state.

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Played with it and played with it.

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-Yeah.

-We've got to say that this isn't all of it.

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We've got a box over here with a lot more in it.

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-Tonnes of track.

-Tonnes and tonnes of track.

0:27:240:27:26

So, what's your background?

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Have you always been around here?

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-Where have you been?

-No, I come from here,

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but I've travelled the world a few times.

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-Really? A few times?

-Yes.

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-How many?

-I just got the travel bug.

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I've been around two or three times.

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-And how long were you away for at a time?

-Years, decades sometimes.

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I spent years in America, India, Australia.

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You've been bought this, you've played with it

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and then you've been away for ten years at a time

0:27:480:27:50

but you still kept this.

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It must have had a real thing for you.

0:27:510:27:53

When my parents sold their house

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when I was out of the country my brother rescued it.

0:27:550:27:59

-Really?

-And kept it for me.

-Really?

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-Yes.

-He must have known it was something special to you.

-Yeah.

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What makes toys valuable is when people don't play with them.

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-I know.

-And when they're in the original box.

0:28:070:28:10

-I know.

-You have got reams of tape holding this lot together.

0:28:100:28:14

I should never have opened it.

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Absolutely right, but then it would have been dull, wouldn't it,

0:28:160:28:19

and boring? But this is all tin plate

0:28:190:28:23

and here's the track.

0:28:230:28:25

I'm guessing most of these are sort of O-gauge,

0:28:250:28:27

but it's just a bit of fun, isn't it?

0:28:270:28:29

It's not going to make a huge amount of money because of its condition.

0:28:290:28:32

Have you ever given a thought as to what it might be worth?

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No, I'd like it to be worth something

0:28:360:28:38

but, you know, what can you do?

0:28:380:28:40

I think you need to put this in with an estimate of £60-£90,

0:28:400:28:44

put a fixed reserve on it of £50.

0:28:440:28:47

-Are you happy with that?

-Yeah.

0:28:470:28:49

Could you make it 60 minimum?

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If you want me to, I could happily do that for you.

0:28:510:28:53

So that's a first-class ticket for £60.

0:28:530:28:55

-Thank you, sir.

-Thank you very much.

0:28:550:28:57

With that sorted,

0:28:590:29:01

let's exercise our minds and bodies over on Mark's table.

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Charles, it's lovely to see you.

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-Nice to be here.

-Before we talk about your item I want to learn a bit about you.

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You said you weren't terribly energetic as a youngster.

0:29:110:29:14

-No.

-But you took up running at 62.

0:29:140:29:18

-Yes.

-And then what did you do?

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I did 16 marathons.

0:29:210:29:23

-16 marathons? London Marathons?

-Yes.

0:29:230:29:25

From the age of 62?

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-Yes.

-Good Lord.

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That's why you look so young and healthy!

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Because how old are you now, John?

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-90.

-90?

-Yeah.

0:29:330:29:35

Do you know that's very nearly an antique?

0:29:350:29:38

HE LAUGHS

0:29:380:29:39

I am, yeah. I've been told that.

0:29:390:29:41

-But you have brought a genuine antique in.

-Yes.

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A charming fan.

0:29:450:29:47

How long have you had the fan?

0:29:470:29:49

Oh, just over 11 years.

0:29:490:29:50

And was it in your family?

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No, I inherited it from a friend.

0:29:520:29:55

So it's been in their family, maybe, for a long time?

0:29:550:29:58

I don't know how long, no.

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It actually comes from China.

0:30:000:30:02

They are generally referred to as Cantonese carved ivory fans.

0:30:020:30:05

Because they were largely exported from the port of Canton.

0:30:050:30:09

You've got this beautiful carving here.

0:30:100:30:13

These are known as brise, because each of the spokes is individual.

0:30:130:30:17

So when you open it, it's individual spokes, all so delicately carved.

0:30:170:30:23

It's absolutely wonderful. Very elegant.

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And you can imagine a very elegant Victorian or Edwardian lady,

0:30:260:30:31

in the summer, using this to keep herself cool, can't you?

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-I can, yes.

-Somewhere like here, at a ball.

0:30:350:30:39

-Yes.

-Well, we're having a ball, aren't we?

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We are indeed, yes.

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In terms of the date, we're probably looking at the late 19th,

0:30:430:30:47

early 20th century.

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So, around 1900.

0:30:480:30:50

It's well over 100 years old.

0:30:500:30:52

-Even older than you, Charles.

-HE CHUCKLES

0:30:520:30:56

-Thank you!

-But it is wonderful quality.

0:30:560:30:59

The condition is very good.

0:30:590:31:00

There are a few little breaks that you can spot along there.

0:31:000:31:04

Considering the delicacy of it, I think it's in very good condition.

0:31:040:31:09

Now, we are safe to sell this,

0:31:090:31:10

because it's before 1947 and it's all beautifully carved.

0:31:100:31:14

-Charles, have you thought about the value?

-No, I've no idea.

0:31:140:31:17

I think we've got to keep it realistic in this market.

0:31:170:31:20

So I would suggest £150 to £200.

0:31:200:31:23

-Great.

-Something like that.

0:31:230:31:26

We'll put a reserve - we can have a fixed reserve of 150,

0:31:260:31:30

or a discretionary reserve.

0:31:300:31:31

-Which one would you prefer?

-I think a fixed reserve.

0:31:310:31:33

We'll put a fixed reserve of 150.

0:31:330:31:35

I think a lot of collectors would want this.

0:31:350:31:39

What would you do with the money if you did make a lot of money?

0:31:390:31:42

I'm going to give it to one of my charities.

0:31:430:31:46

-You're going to support one of your charities?

-Yes.

-That's wonderful.

0:31:460:31:48

-Let's hope it really makes a lot of money.

-I hope so.

0:31:480:31:51

-Thank you so much, Charles.

-Thank you very much.

0:31:510:31:53

It's been a pleasure.

0:31:530:31:54

Before we go back to the valuations,

0:31:560:31:58

I want to share with you a recent discovery

0:31:580:32:01

about the painting on the back wall.

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A few years ago, the ceilings and the walls in the upper hall here

0:32:050:32:09

underwent conservation and cleaning.

0:32:090:32:12

It was a test, really, to see if it could be done

0:32:120:32:14

throughout the whole of the lower hall, and it did work.

0:32:140:32:18

They wanted to make the image brighter, more vibrant and crisper.

0:32:180:32:21

You can see, with a lot of due care and attention

0:32:210:32:24

it was cleaned off gradually.

0:32:240:32:26

The colours are more vivid and there is clarity there.

0:32:260:32:29

In the next few years, they're going to carry on

0:32:290:32:31

doing the rest of the hall.

0:32:310:32:32

But what the conservators didn't bank on was finding one or two new discoveries.

0:32:320:32:37

I'll just quickly tell you about them.

0:32:370:32:39

Now you can see the dome up there, it looks slightly squashed down.

0:32:390:32:43

But you can also see, now it has been cleaned,

0:32:430:32:45

an outline of an earlier dome that was drawn in

0:32:450:32:47

which is slightly higher.

0:32:470:32:50

Why that one was lowered nobody knows.

0:32:500:32:53

The one I like is just here.

0:32:530:32:55

There's a very faint image of a hand.

0:32:560:33:00

It's just there, you can see the fingers and the thumb.

0:33:000:33:04

It is possible this whole image has been raised up

0:33:040:33:07

so everybody in the lower hall can see it.

0:33:070:33:10

But the conservators also have another theory.

0:33:100:33:13

Thornhill asked George I if he would like his wife painted in the image.

0:33:130:33:19

Now, George I had his wife in prison for adultery.

0:33:190:33:22

So when Thornhill said, "Can I represent her in the picture?"

0:33:220:33:26

he said, "I don't care what you do.

0:33:260:33:27

"You can paint her under the carpet for all I care."

0:33:270:33:31

So, this could be George I's ex-wife's hand.

0:33:310:33:35

How funny!

0:33:370:33:38

Now, Philip's bagged a special treat with some cards by one of Britain's

0:33:380:33:42

best-known and most sought-after painters.

0:33:420:33:45

Christine, these are lovely. You've made my day with these.

0:33:450:33:48

-Have I?

-Well, Mary Fedden,

0:33:480:33:50

she's one of the iconic 20th-century artists.

0:33:500:33:54

-Yes.

-So, your mum and Mary were great mates?

0:33:540:33:58

Yes. Mum used to go and visit Mary

0:33:580:34:00

and sometimes take me as a child over to see her.

0:34:000:34:05

-So you knew Mary Fedden?

-Oh, yes.

0:34:050:34:07

Did you realise what a sort of iconic person she was?

0:34:070:34:11

Not really, because...

0:34:110:34:12

She was just your mum's mate?

0:34:120:34:14

-Yes.

-Mary was a Bristolian, wasn't she?

0:34:140:34:16

And she taught at the Slade.

0:34:160:34:18

She taught at the Royal College of Art.

0:34:180:34:21

Wasn't she the first lady to teach at the Royal College of Art?

0:34:210:34:24

-I believe so.

-I think that, in time to come,

0:34:240:34:28

people will look at Mary Fedden as being sort of a mover and a shaker

0:34:280:34:33

of the 20th-century art world, really.

0:34:330:34:35

Well, let's just establish what we have got here.

0:34:350:34:38

-We've got a watercolour here, typical Mary Fedden.

-Yeah.

0:34:380:34:42

It's a birthday card.

0:34:420:34:43

-We've almost got this still life of fruit and flowers.

-Yeah.

0:34:430:34:47

What I love about this, because I had a peep earlier,

0:34:470:34:50

-"Happy birthday dear Ina," - that's your mum?

-Yeah.

0:34:500:34:53

"Lots of love, Mary."

0:34:540:34:56

That's just brilliant. Here we've got another little card,

0:34:570:35:01

-typical Mary Fedden cat.

-Cats, yeah.

0:35:010:35:04

And here we've got a little engraving.

0:35:040:35:06

-Mary's just added that blob of colour there.

-Yeah.

0:35:060:35:10

What makes it so personal is all these things you've got here.

0:35:100:35:14

-Yes.

-I think what I would do is I would put that as one lot,

0:35:140:35:19

and I would put this here as another lot.

0:35:190:35:21

Let's just say what we're not going to do is sell these bits, are we?

0:35:210:35:25

-No.

-So we've got one lot of the cat and the engraving.

0:35:250:35:29

Another lot of the watercolour. What do you think they might make?

0:35:290:35:32

-You must have some idea?

-I haven't got a clue.

0:35:320:35:35

The two together, you should get

0:35:350:35:38

-about £1,000.

-SHE GASPS

0:35:380:35:40

They've been stuck in a tin.

0:35:420:35:44

That's been stuck in cardboard on the wall.

0:35:440:35:47

In fact, I think you'll get more. We're going to put this one at £800-£1200.

0:35:470:35:50

-Oh, my God.

-With a reserve of £700.

0:35:500:35:53

And these two here, we're going to put at £600 to £900,

0:35:530:35:56

with a reserve of £500.

0:35:560:35:59

Or you can take my £100 now.

0:35:590:36:01

-I can't believe that.

-I think that's a no, then, isn't it?

0:36:030:36:06

We'll have an estimate on this of £800 to £1,200,

0:36:060:36:08

-fixed reserve at 700, right?

-God...

0:36:080:36:10

And on these two, we will have an estimate of £600 to £900,

0:36:100:36:14

fixed reserve of £500.

0:36:140:36:16

I nearly didn't bring these.

0:36:160:36:18

Well, let's keep our fingers crossed

0:36:180:36:20

and let's hope we've got every Mary Fedden fan in the world at the auction.

0:36:200:36:24

-You know what? I think we might have.

-Yeah.

0:36:240:36:27

Thank you for bringing these. You made my day.

0:36:270:36:29

I can't believe that.

0:36:290:36:31

Well, that's it. What a day and what an honour to be filming here

0:36:380:36:42

in such an historic setting.

0:36:420:36:44

I know hundreds of Londoners have thoroughly enjoyed themselves today

0:36:440:36:48

and so have the entire team.

0:36:480:36:50

Sadly, it's time to say goodbye to the old Royal Naval College in Greenwich,

0:36:500:36:54

as we go over to the auction for the very last time for some unfinished business.

0:36:540:36:58

Here are the three final items that are going under the hammer.

0:36:580:37:02

Let's hope there'll be light at the end of the tunnel

0:37:030:37:06

for this Hornby train set.

0:37:060:37:08

And if it gets too hot,

0:37:110:37:12

we can use Charles's Cantonese fan to cool us down.

0:37:120:37:15

And these Mary Fedden cards

0:37:190:37:21

will definitely draw in the art collectors.

0:37:210:37:24

We're back at Chiswick Auctions and William Rouse is on the rostrum.

0:37:290:37:33

Now, we're just about to sell Robert's Hornby train set.

0:37:330:37:36

I like this. I had a Hornby train set, I bet you did.

0:37:360:37:39

Why are you selling this, Robert?

0:37:390:37:40

Well, I gave it to my son, he played with it and...

0:37:400:37:43

He's finished with it now? So pass it on?

0:37:430:37:46

-While it's still there in one piece?

-That's right.

0:37:460:37:48

-OK.

-There's a lot of it.

-There is.

-It takes up a lot of room.

0:37:480:37:51

You had a chat to the auctioneer, didn't you?

0:37:510:37:53

-You've dropped the reserve?

-I took away the reserve.

0:37:530:37:55

-I didn't want to carry it home!

-The pressure's off, OK?

0:37:550:37:58

But I think we'll still do that within estimate.

0:37:580:38:00

I think it's a cracking lot. Hopefully we're going to find

0:38:000:38:02

someone that's going to be chuffed to bits with it today.

0:38:020:38:04

-This train is going to be on time.

-It is.

0:38:040:38:06

Let's find out what the auctioneer thinks and what the bidders think.

0:38:060:38:09

It's going under the hammer right now.

0:38:090:38:10

Lot 331.

0:38:100:38:12

A Hornby Meccano clockwork train set, with all the accessories,

0:38:120:38:17

lots of bits and pieces here.

0:38:170:38:18

There we go, what's it worth? Start me...£50 for this lot.

0:38:180:38:21

It's got to be worth that. 40, then?

0:38:210:38:23

40 is bid in front of me.

0:38:250:38:26

45.

0:38:260:38:27

£50?

0:38:270:38:29

£50 here.

0:38:290:38:31

At £50. Are you all done?

0:38:310:38:33

At £50, it's going.

0:38:340:38:35

-Sold.

-It's gone within estimate.

0:38:370:38:39

-You said 50.

-You did. Spot on, Philip.

-It's something.

0:38:390:38:42

-Someone to enjoy it.

-I hope so, yes.

0:38:420:38:44

I did.

0:38:450:38:46

It's the ivory fan next, and I want to reiterate

0:38:470:38:51

that because it was crafted well before 1947,

0:38:510:38:55

it is legal to be sold.

0:38:550:38:56

I have to say, I'm also a fan of the owner.

0:38:580:39:01

Charles, your fan is just about to go under the hammer,

0:39:020:39:05

the Cantonese ivory fan.

0:39:050:39:07

I've got to say, you look very dapper.

0:39:070:39:09

You look absolutely fabulous.

0:39:090:39:12

Thank you very much.

0:39:120:39:13

And you're 92, are you?

0:39:130:39:15

-90.

-90 - don't stretch it.

0:39:150:39:16

I was bigging you up, then.

0:39:160:39:19

Only 90.

0:39:200:39:22

Well, you look absolutely fantastic.

0:39:220:39:24

-And that's because you used to run, didn't you? You've done a lot of marathons.

-Yep.

0:39:240:39:28

-It's never too late.

-Oh, thank you!

0:39:280:39:30

It's never too late! Come on, get fit.

0:39:300:39:32

He's pulling his tummy in.

0:39:320:39:33

Trying to, it's not working.

0:39:330:39:35

I know the feeling. Anyway,

0:39:350:39:37

you were given this fan by a friend about 12 years ago, 11 years ago.

0:39:370:39:41

The condition is good.

0:39:410:39:42

Yes, a tiny bit of damage on some of the fronds.

0:39:420:39:45

But basically it's in jolly good condition.

0:39:450:39:48

Let's put this fan to the test.

0:39:480:39:50

It's going under the hammer right now.

0:39:500:39:52

Lot 291 is a Cantonese fan.

0:39:520:39:55

With me I'm bid £100.

0:39:550:39:57

100, 110, 120.

0:39:570:39:59

300 on the internet.

0:39:590:40:00

300?

0:40:000:40:01

320 on the telephone.

0:40:010:40:03

320 on the telephone, is that it?

0:40:030:40:05

We all done? Got there very quickly at...

0:40:050:40:08

340 in the room.

0:40:080:40:09

360.

0:40:090:40:11

Thank you, sir. 360, still on the telephone.

0:40:110:40:13

All done at 360?

0:40:130:40:16

£360!

0:40:160:40:18

Oh, thanks!

0:40:180:40:20

-Thank Mark, he picked it up.

-Thank you.

0:40:200:40:22

-Lovely thing.

-It's been wonderful meeting you.

0:40:220:40:24

-It really has.

-That's very kind of you, thank you so much.

0:40:240:40:27

A good result, wasn't it?

0:40:270:40:28

Well done. Well done, boys.

0:40:280:40:30

Now it's the Mary Fedden cards.

0:40:330:40:35

I'm so excited, so excited these came in.

0:40:370:40:40

-It's just brilliant.

-Every now and then you see something on "Flog It!"

0:40:400:40:43

that makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end.

0:40:430:40:45

Here we go. Mary Fedden, under the hammer, on "Flog It!".

0:40:450:40:49

And start me... £500 to start me.

0:40:490:40:51

500 is bid. I've got one more, 550.

0:40:520:40:55

Yours for 600?

0:40:550:40:57

650.

0:40:580:41:00

700.

0:41:000:41:01

On the telephone at 700.

0:41:010:41:03

Selling for 700.

0:41:030:41:05

700?

0:41:050:41:06

Gone.

0:41:060:41:08

That's the cat and the boat done.

0:41:080:41:10

Now I wonder how this watercolour will do.

0:41:100:41:12

It's valued at £800 to £1,200.

0:41:120:41:15

I think this is the best of the lot.

0:41:170:41:19

I want a big surprise on this one.

0:41:190:41:21

OK, Lot 505.

0:41:210:41:23

Mary Fedden.

0:41:230:41:24

Goodness me, there's been lots and lots of interest in this picture

0:41:240:41:28

over the last couple of days, on the viewing.

0:41:280:41:30

I'm straight in at £1,000.

0:41:300:41:33

-1,100, 1,200, 1,300.

-£1,000, straight in!

0:41:330:41:36

-With me at 1,300.

-1,300.

0:41:360:41:38

-SHE GASPS

-Oh, my God!

0:41:380:41:39

1,400 is the next bid.

0:41:390:41:41

1,400 on the telephone.

0:41:410:41:43

-1,400.

-1,500.

-1,500.

0:41:430:41:44

1,600.

0:41:450:41:47

Now I've got 1,650.

0:41:470:41:48

-Oh, yes!

-1,700?

-1,650.

0:41:480:41:51

At £1,700, beats me.

0:41:510:41:53

That beats the commission bid.

0:41:530:41:55

£1,700.

0:41:550:41:57

-This is great.

-1,800 seated.

0:41:580:42:01

1,900.

0:42:010:42:03

1,900...

0:42:030:42:04

It is, then, standing at 1,900. You all done?

0:42:050:42:08

-Selling... 2,000 seated.

-Oh!

0:42:080:42:11

2,100.

0:42:110:42:13

2,200.

0:42:130:42:15

Christine!

0:42:150:42:17

2,200 seated it is. At 2,200.

0:42:170:42:21

Anybody else?

0:42:210:42:23

2,200, then, it goes.

0:42:230:42:26

£2,200! And you're crying.

0:42:260:42:29

That's a lot of money. Was that exciting?

0:42:300:42:33

-I'm just gobsmacked, gobsmacked.

-What an end.

0:42:330:42:36

That was in a tin, I kept it in a tin.

0:42:360:42:38

Good for you, it was in immaculate condition, wasn't it?

0:42:380:42:41

-I think you can have another look in the tin.

-Yeah!

0:42:410:42:43

What a name to end with.

0:42:430:42:44

Christine and Mary Fedden, under the hammer.

0:42:440:42:47

Join us again soon for many more surprises.

0:42:470:42:49

Until then, from Chiswick in west London, it's goodbye.

0:42:490:42:53

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