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Today, we're bringing you a special edition of "Flog It!"

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from all over the UK.

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We're travelling east to west, north to south,

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revisiting some of the historic venues from the series.

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And, as ever, we're searching high and low for fascinating antiques

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to sell at auction, and I'll be here at Knightshayes in Devon...

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..a house built thanks to the ingenuity,

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determination and spirit of one man, and his name was Sir John Heathcoat,

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and he single-handedly transformed the lacemaking industry.

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Later on in the programme, we'll be finding out about his achievements

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and putting values on your items.

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Welcome to "Flog It!".

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Knightshayes is an extraordinary Victorian country seat,

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set in acres of parkland.

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It was owned by the Heathcoat Amory family

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and it reflects the success they achieved in the lacemaking industry.

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Only three generations of Heathcoat Amory family lived here

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before the house was handed over to the National Trust in 1972.

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And what a house it is. Just take a look at this.

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It really is quite fabulous.

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Today, you can wander around the exquisite gardens,

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you can indulge in the medieval-inspired interiors

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and you can hear the story of how the family started off as farmers

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and rose to landed gentry in just two generations.

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It really is quite a tale.

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And more of that later, but first,

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let's see where we're heading on today's show.

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We're at one of the finest castles in the whole of the UK -

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Herstmonceux in East Sussex.

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And Catherine Southern's found some boots made for walking.

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My grandfather was a saddle maker

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and he decided to make his young two or three-year-old daughter

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a pair of boots, and there they are.

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At Althorp in Northamptonshire,

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we're surrounded by priceless works of art,

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but there's nothing buttoned-up about Charles.

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This, what appears to be a fairly mundane button, reveals so much.

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At Reading Town Hall, Anita Manning's fallen in love

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with some heavy metal.

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Every bit of this pot is beautifully decorated

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-by this master of metalwork.

-Gee whizz.

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That's all for later, but first,

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we're landing at Herstmonceux Castle in Sussex.

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Built in the 15th century, it was, at the time,

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the largest private home in England.

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James Lewis isn't putting up a fight

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when it comes to valuing this incredible collection.

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Margaret, tell me about these.

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Tell me about your family and what you know about them.

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Right, to start with, there was my grandfather, Alfred Harry Cole.

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-He went to France and he was at Mons.

-Ah.

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And the first battle,

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the Kaiser named the men who fought at Mons,

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-"This little contempt... Little contemptible army."

-Yes.

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And they adopted that name and everybody who fought at Mons,

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they decided that they would call themselves the Old Contemptibles -

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-hence the badge.

-OK, so for that,

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-what we're talking about is this set here and the badge here.

-Yes.

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-OK, so who's next?

-My father, Alfred John Cole.

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-This is the Second World War now.

-Second World War, sorry, yes.

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We've got the Africa Star here. Whereabouts was he?

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-He was in Egypt in the desert.

-Ah, the Desert Rats.

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And I can tell you a funny story.

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Apparently, whilst they were in the desert,

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they were issued with clean clothes but were told they couldn't change

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into the clean clothes because Montgomery was coming to see them

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-a few days later.

-Ah.

-And my father disobeyed.

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He said, "It's my time to put my clean clothes on", so he did.

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-Good for him.

-And for that,

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he had to march for hours with a full pack in the desert.

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Very stubborn, my father.

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And these are my father's brother, Kenneth Claude Cole.

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-He was in the bomb and mine disposal.

-OK.

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Let's start with your grandfather.

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He obviously joined the army right at the very beginning.

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-And we know that because he has the 1914 medal.

-Mm-hmm.

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So, the first year of World War I.

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And we also have the bar that says, "August 22nd to November, 1914",

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which indicates he was actually fighting during that period.

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So, we've got the 1914 Star,

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we've got the War Medal and we've got the Victory Medal

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-and we've got the Military Medal.

-Yeah.

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Now, the Military Medal was awarded

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for those people who weren't commissioned officers,

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-so what rank was he?

-He was just a sapper.

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-He was promoted to a sergeant but he said, "I don't want it."

-Really?

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And my father did exactly the same.

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Well, a lot of people say to be awarded that as a sapper,

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you would have had to be even braver

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than to be awarded as a commissioned officer.

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So, we've got the three that everybody knows -

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Pip, Squeak and Wilfred, the common names,

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named after cartoon characters

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that were contemporary to the First World War.

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Then, the Second World War medals.

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Until recently, there hasn't been a great demand

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for Second World War medals,

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but they are becoming more sought after.

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Then, finally, we have these two.

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Now, the General Service Medal is an interesting one because of the bar.

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-Yes.

-And it says here, "Bomb & Mine Clearance, 1945-'49",

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so it's post-World War II.

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The war's finished and he's involved

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in clearing all of the unexploded bombs -

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-one of the most dangerous jobs in existence.

-Yes.

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-I couldn't do it.

-I certainly couldn't!

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I wouldn't want to, so an incredible person who's been incredibly brave.

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There will be people at home, watching this,

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who will be saying, "Why are you selling your family medals?"

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And I used to think the same thing.

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But the medal collectors will buy these,

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they will find photographs of your grandfather

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and your father and your uncle and they won't be sitting

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in somebody's chest of drawers any more.

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They will be framed up with all of that research

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and their story will live on.

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That is what is so good about medal and military collectors.

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-It's the history.

-It's all about what they did.

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It's very rare, as well, to see a whole family together,

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so I think we should sell them together, as one set.

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And do you know, I've gone through all of that

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and I've even forgotten what I'm meant to be doing

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-and that's putting a value on them.

-We got carried away.

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Well, it almost seems insulting

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to put a value on something so incredible, but we have to.

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Now, Pip, Squeak and Wilfred - those three on their own,

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without the Military Medal, are worth between £70 and £100.

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Then we've got the Military Medal as well.

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That's worth another £200 to £300.

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Then we've got these two. Let's add another £300 there - £650.

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Another £100 there - £750.

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I think we've got between £700 and £900, something like that.

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I'm amazed! I really am amazed.

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-I'd no idea that they'd be that value.

-All right.

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-A little bit stunned.

-Great. Well, I enjoy giving good news.

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What a wonderful collection of medals,

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which recognises the Cole family's heroic military efforts.

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Stately homes, like Knightshayes,

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played their part in the war effort too.

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In the First World War, Knightshayes gave its entire ground floor over

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as a military hospital, giving 75 beds to war-wounded soldiers.

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In World War II, Knightshayes accommodated

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both British and American soldiers, where they convalesced

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and had a bit of well-deserved leisure time to boot.

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But tragedy would also hit Knightshayes at the end of the war.

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When the pilots left Knightshayes and returned to the airfield,

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there was a custom to fly low over the house to buzz it,

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in order to cheer up their wounded comrades, and it certainly did.

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But tragically, one pilot flew his P-47 Thunderbolt

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a little bit too low.

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The wings clipped the top of the tree

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and it landed in the woodland over there.

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Tragically, the plane hit the ground and, sadly, the pilot lost his life.

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But the lady of the house at the time, Joyce Heathcoat Amory,

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was determined to grow good out of bad,

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so she planted up the crash site area into a woodland garden

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and, as you can see today,

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it still remains an area of outstanding natural beauty.

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The next stop on our tour is 75 miles north, in Northamptonshire.

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Althorp House, home to the Spencer family for 500 years,

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provided a spectacular backdrop for our valuation day.

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But Charles Hanson's fancy was taken by something rather more subtle.

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MUSIC: Let's Face The Music And Dance by Irving Berlin

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I saw you earlier in the queue and it was almost trouble ahead,

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because this, what appears to be a fairly mundane button,

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reveals so much. I'm really intrigued,

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before we get to that story - how did you acquire it?

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It was in an old button collection of my aunt.

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She died in 1982 and I was allowed to choose things from the house

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-and I'm just fascinated by buttons.

-Are you?

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-And so I just chose that.

-Why do buttons take your fancy?

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What do buttons give you, as a collector?

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I don't collect them, particularly,

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it's just that there's such history with it.

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You can imagine - in fact, you can see things.

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A button that was on your granny's dress

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when you were, perhaps, three or four, and you recognise it.

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-And you can't beat that, can you?

-No, not at all.

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The sentiment of that object which you just visually remember.

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-That's right.

-Like this.

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And what's really interesting is what's on this button.

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Obviously, we can see Manchester Church, which today,

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-we know as being...

-Manchester Cathedral.

-Correct.

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And it's inscribed "Church & King Club".

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And what we know is that the first meeting of this new club

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-happened on 13th March, 1790.

-That's right.

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-And this button was worn by uniformed members of this club.

-Mm.

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-Fascinating.

-Yeah.

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-At a time when there was unrest.

-Yeah, political party.

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-At a time when England was unsure where its future was going.

-Mm.

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-We were only a year after the French Revolution.

-Mm.

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We were concerned what might happen over the Channel in 1790.

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-It was only 15 years before the Battle of Trafalgar.

-Oh, golly, yes.

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-So, it really speaks history.

-Yeah.

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But, of course, this button also has a link to Northampton.

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Well, Spencer Perceval was the only Northampton Prime Minister

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and, as many people know,

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he was the only Prime Minister to have been assassinated.

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-And he was related to the Compton family at Castle Ashby.

-Yes.

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And I think that's my connection.

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I think that's why I found it in my button box,

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because my, oh, great-great-uncle lived at Castle Ashby at that time.

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-Isn't it wonderful that a button can colour so much social history?

-Yeah.

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And it's wonderful because you can see how, maybe, hands and grease

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and grime, over the years, have removed some of the gilt coating.

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-Mm.

-And you can see, obviously, on the back,

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-what a crude button it is, in that regard, with a single loop.

-Mm.

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Fascinating. I think it's a really interesting object.

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I think it's fairly rare too.

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-It is rare.

-Yeah.

-I've never seen one before.

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I've seen a couple retail, do quite well but, of course,

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auction, in that market,

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it's something which almost needs that line, "Political interest".

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-Yes.

-I love it.

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-And you're thinking it's time to unbutton and go to auction?

-Yes.

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-What's it worth?

-Oh, not very much, I shouldn't think.

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-Have a guess.

-I don't know. Um, tenner?

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-I would say times it by three.

-Oh.

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And if we get the right people, hopefully behind it,

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for Queen and country today,

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I hope we can guide it at between £30 and £50.

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-That's not bad for a button.

-And I truly feel, for what it represents,

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we ought to protect it with a reserve at £20,

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-to prevent any unrest from you to me.

-OK.

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Buttons today just don't have the charm, do they?

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Now it's back down south,

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where the stunning Victorian town hall in Reading plays host

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to hundreds of "Flog It!" followers.

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But it's pot luck what our experts will find,

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as Anita Manning is discovering.

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Betty, welcome to "Flog It!",

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and it's wonderful of you to come along.

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And it's even more wonderful

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for you to have brought along this beautiful pot.

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-Tell me where you got it.

-My auntie's place.

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When she passed away, it was left in the toilet, of all places.

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I said to Raymond, my cousin whose mother had died,

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"You left a pot in the ladies' toilet."

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"You can have it," he said. So, I had it

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-and brought it home.

-ANITA LAUGHS

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-Oh, that was a very nice thing to happen.

-Yeah.

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-Tell me, did you like the pot?

-Yes and no.

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I brought it home and put some cones in it and I had a pot plant in it.

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In the end, it went up on the shelf.

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I forgot all about it then, until I saw "Flog It!".

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I saw a lady bring one in, very small, with a fish on.

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I thought, "John Pearson - haven't I got that on my pot?"

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And got it and it was "John Pearson", and I thought,

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"Perhaps it's a forgery, but perhaps it might not be a forgery."

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-It was important to bring it in and to have it checked out.

-Yeah.

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Have you had it for a long time?

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Must be 10, 15 years ago my auntie's been gone now.

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Well, it's wonderful to have this turning up in Reading.

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Now, this comes from the late 19th century.

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We had the Industrial Revolution,

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where things had gone from being handmade

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-to being machine-made and mass-produced.

-Ah, yeah.

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And there were people who felt

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that they wanted to bring back

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the skills of handcraft.

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Now, this movement was loosely called the Arts and Crafts Movement.

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And if we look at the base of your pot,

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we can see the signature of John Pearson.

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Now, John Pearson was a very, very important figure

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in the Arts and Crafts Movement.

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In fact, he was one of the founder members

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of the Guild of Handicrafts with Charles Ashbee.

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-Oh.

-Now, he made his way down to Newlyn.

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That was a very famous area for Arts and Crafts,

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-but it was also renowned for its copper metalwork.

-Oh.

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And John Pearson made this pot in Newlyn

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with the copper from that region.

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-Oh.

-So, it's quite an important thing.

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If we look at the pot, everything has been hand-done,

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where we have leaves and flowers,

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-with a hand-hammered decoration...

-Oh.

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..so that every bit of this pot is beautifully decorated

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-by this master of metalwork.

-Gee whizz.

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So, it's really an absolute joy to see.

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-That's great.

-Selling it - would you be sorry to leave it go?

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I don't know. In one way, I suppose I would be,

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but I don't think it would interest my son.

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I'll see what it does at the auction.

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This is the interesting thing. If it was coming to me,

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-I would put it in at £500 to £800.

-Yeah.

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This is a conservative estimate.

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Now, would you be happy to put it in at £500 to £800?

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Yeah, I'm going to leave it to you.

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-But we will make a firm reserve of £500.

-OK, yeah, all right.

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-Let's hope it flies.

-I hope it does.

-I'm sure it will.

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I hope it goes to someone who'll appreciate it.

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-Thank you for bringing it along.

-Thank you.

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Let's hope the Arts and Crafts collectors take the bait.

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That's our first three items valued by our experts

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and here they are again, just to jog your memory.

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The medals, reflecting two generations of military history.

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There could be a fight over these in the saleroom.

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A tiny button with a big story to tell. Will a collector snap it up?

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The Arts & Crafts planter is by a celebrated maker,

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but will it raise a pot of gold for Betty?

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Our first auction comes from the market town

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of Wokingham in Berkshire.

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Like all auctions, Martin & Pole charges commission,

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so factor that in if you're buying or selling.

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Right, the John Pearson pot is up for grabs.

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Now, this is quality.

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It's signed as well, yes. Why are you selling it?

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Well, I might as well say it.

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-I'm going to give it between me and my son, half each.

-Ah, that's nice.

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OK, well, you know I love it and, fingers crossed,

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phone lines are bought, people are online, ready for this,

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and it might find its way back to Cornwall.

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We're going to find out now. It's going under the hammer.

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-Good luck.

-Yeah.

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The nice Arts & Crafts copper planter by John Pearson.

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Start this with me at £420. 450 anywhere? With me at £420.

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-Betty, we're at 450.

-Any more?

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450 on the internet. 480 with me.

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At £480. Any more?

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-500 on the internet.

-Ah!

-Thank you. £500. Any more?

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At £500. Any more on the internet?

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Tell me now. At £500.

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-All done?

-HE BANGS GAVEL

0:18:280:18:30

-It's gone. £500.

-500, oh, we just made it.

0:18:300:18:34

Only just made it.

0:18:340:18:35

-Are you happy with that, Betty?

-Yes, I am.

-Oh, good.

0:18:350:18:39

-Look at that big smile. We just got it away, didn't we?

-We did.

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Hopefully, it's gone to a museum somewhere,

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so everybody can appreciate the skill of Pearson,

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because that was just lovely.

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Our next auction is two hours' north

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in Market Harborough, Leicestershire,

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where Gildings are in charge of the sale of the special little button.

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Going under the hammer right now, a George III uniform button

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belonging to Gillian, who's right next to me. Good luck with this.

0:19:010:19:05

-Thank you.

-Great to see you again.

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-It's not a lot of money, is it, though?

-No.

0:19:060:19:08

-Interesting object, socially.

-And a correlation to Northampton as well.

0:19:080:19:11

-Absolutely.

-So, it's got local interest and, fingers crossed,

0:19:110:19:14

we're going to find a bidder right here, right now.

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Let's put it under the hammer.

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The Manchester Church & King Club. Nice little button here. Gilt metal.

0:19:180:19:23

-And bidding only £8.

-Oh!

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-8, I'm bid. Here, at £8. At 8.

-It's a great curio.

0:19:260:19:28

£10. £12.

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£12, I'm bid at £12. £15.

0:19:300:19:32

£18. £20, I'm bid now.

0:19:320:19:35

-You've sold it.

-Yeah, come on.

-With the online bidder now, at £20.

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-Online as well. Come on.

-It's £20.

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-Selling away to the internet at £20.

-HE BANGS GAVEL

0:19:410:19:44

It's selling. That's a good thing to buy online.

0:19:440:19:46

They can put that in an envelope and post it, can't they? Well done.

0:19:460:19:49

Well done, both of you.

0:19:490:19:50

-It's a beauty.

-It's a bit of fun,

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but we've all learnt something, that's the main thing.

0:19:520:19:54

-It was lovely taking part in

-"Flog It!". Ah.

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For our third auction, we're heading to the south coast,

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to Rye Auction Galleries in Sussex,

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as the military medals go into battle.

0:20:020:20:05

Margaret, we are just about to sell your father's,

0:20:050:20:08

-your uncle's and your grandfather's medals.

-Yes.

0:20:080:20:12

-There's a lot of family history here.

-Certainly is.

-Ready, Margaret?

0:20:120:20:15

-Yes.

-It's going under the hammer now. This is it.

0:20:150:20:17

This is a selection of World War I and World War II medals.

0:20:170:20:21

And I can start it at 500. At 500.

0:20:210:20:25

Do I see 520? 520.

0:20:250:20:27

540. 560. 580.

0:20:270:20:29

600. 620.

0:20:290:20:31

640. 660. 680.

0:20:310:20:34

700? 680 here.

0:20:340:20:37

-Another bidder? 700.

-Come on, come on.

-At 720.

0:20:370:20:40

At 720 now. Do I see 740?

0:20:400:20:43

-You were spot-on, James.

-At £720 now. At 720.

0:20:430:20:45

It's on the net. Are we all done and finished

0:20:450:20:48

-at £720?

-HE BANGS GAVEL

0:20:480:20:50

-Great! Good.

-720, well done. Well done. Spot-on.

0:20:500:20:54

Hard thing to put a price on. Are you going to treat your husband?

0:20:540:20:57

-We're going to go on a cruise.

-Oh, good for you, good for you!

0:20:570:21:00

That's our first trip to the saleroom complete.

0:21:000:21:03

We'll be back later for more auction action.

0:21:030:21:05

Now, it's back to Knightshayes in Devon,

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to discover how the Heathcoat family's lace business

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transformed the local area.

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Look at that! Isn't that stunning?

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This is the view from the back of Knightshayes,

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and the Devon countryside just opened up in front of you.

0:21:240:21:27

But the gardens have been designed in such a way

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that your eye is drawn to one particular building,

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and there it is, look, right in the middle.

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That's Heathcoat Fabrics, and without that building,

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this one wouldn't exist,

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and without the lead of one extraordinary man,

0:21:400:21:42

a whole town may not have survived

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one of the harshest periods in British history.

0:21:440:21:47

The story starts some 200 miles away in Loughborough, Leicestershire,

0:21:490:21:53

when Britain was in the throes of the Industrial Revolution.

0:21:530:21:57

A farmer's son, named John Heathcoat,

0:21:570:21:59

was making waves in the lace industry.

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At the age of just 25, he had invented the bobbinet machine,

0:22:020:22:06

a device that would change the course

0:22:060:22:09

of the lacemaking industry forever.

0:22:090:22:11

Heathcoat took the most beautiful and difficult thing

0:22:150:22:18

human hands were creating in lace,

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and made a machine that could do it for them

0:22:200:22:22

in a fraction of the time at a fraction of the cost.

0:22:220:22:26

The Industrial Revolution brought massive change

0:22:320:22:35

and not everyone welcomed labour-saving inventions,

0:22:350:22:38

like Heathcoat's bobbinet machine.

0:22:380:22:40

If progress continued,

0:22:400:22:42

would the skilled man not be replaced by machine?

0:22:420:22:47

One group of men took the answer into their own hands.

0:22:470:22:50

They called themselves the Luddites

0:22:500:22:52

and they made it their business to attack factories

0:22:520:22:55

and destroy the equipment they saw destroying their livelihood.

0:22:550:22:59

The Luddites attacked John Heathcoat's factory

0:23:000:23:02

with axe and hammer,

0:23:020:23:04

destroying 55 lace machines and putting 200 men out of work.

0:23:040:23:09

And it's said the air was filled

0:23:090:23:11

with the stench of burning lace for days.

0:23:110:23:13

So, what was John Heathcoat to do?

0:23:160:23:18

His business and his equipment was destroyed,

0:23:180:23:20

his trust in the people of Loughborough was ruined,

0:23:200:23:24

and the lace industry was facing a depression.

0:23:240:23:27

Remarkably, the young industrialist bought a factory

0:23:300:23:33

on the other side of the country in Tiverton, Devon -

0:23:330:23:36

a small, deprived town, but one with a history of textiles.

0:23:360:23:40

Heathcoat's tenacity and ambition drove him on,

0:23:420:23:44

like the very wheels of industry, and with him were his loyal workers,

0:23:440:23:49

who had walked 200 miles from Loughborough to Tiverton -

0:23:490:23:52

a journey which would have taken around two weeks on foot -

0:23:520:23:56

to start anew.

0:23:560:23:57

Heathcoat may have lost his machinery, but he retained something

0:23:570:24:01

that proved just as valuable - his people.

0:24:010:24:04

With his established skilled staff,

0:24:060:24:08

he was able to get the business going immediately,

0:24:080:24:11

and offered employment to hundreds of local people,

0:24:110:24:14

many of whom had been living in abject poverty for years.

0:24:140:24:18

As the factory grew, it attracted workers from all over Devon,

0:24:180:24:22

and Heathcoat provided them with the amenities they needed to survive.

0:24:220:24:26

The town of Tiverton was transformed.

0:24:260:24:29

To tell us more, I'm at Tiverton Museum

0:24:310:24:34

to talk to museum director Pippa Griffith.

0:24:340:24:37

Can you tell me what impact the Heathcoat factory had

0:24:410:24:44

on the town of Tiverton in the mid-19th century?

0:24:440:24:46

The arrival of the factory meant people could continue their work

0:24:460:24:49

in the textile trade, in the lace factory.

0:24:490:24:52

It was a huge employer for the town.

0:24:520:24:54

At least around 20% of the population

0:24:540:24:56

had direct employment from the factory itself.

0:24:560:24:59

The factory also had a big impact on housing in the town.

0:24:590:25:01

As soon as John Heathcoat arrived, he started purchasing houses

0:25:010:25:05

and those houses were quite high-spec for their time -

0:25:050:25:08

piped water and so on - and by the later period,

0:25:080:25:11

they even had indoor toilets as well, which was a great luxury.

0:25:110:25:14

What kind of thing were they making in the factory and for who?

0:25:140:25:17

The bobbinet lace is used as the basic lace

0:25:170:25:20

that could then be embroidered or appliqued upon.

0:25:200:25:23

All of that fabric would have been used

0:25:230:25:24

for a number of different purposes - for dresses,

0:25:240:25:27

wedding veils were a very well-known product. And, in fact,

0:25:270:25:30

the factory has a long history of supplying veils for royal weddings -

0:25:300:25:34

Queen Victoria's right through to our own Queen Elizabeth,

0:25:340:25:37

when she was Princess Elizabeth, and Princess Diana as well.

0:25:370:25:40

John Heathcoat, with his very early machine designs,

0:25:400:25:44

which he kept on refining, he learnt French and Italian,

0:25:440:25:46

so he could do business abroad. He was always one step ahead.

0:25:460:25:50

Throughout the mid-19th century,

0:25:520:25:54

Heathcoat led the factory and the town from strength to strength.

0:25:540:25:57

He even became MP for Tiverton in 1832. The people loved him.

0:25:570:26:02

When he sadly passed away, in 1861, the town's grief was universal.

0:26:060:26:10

The shops put up their shutters and for two miles in the street,

0:26:100:26:14

as a mark of respect, black cloth was laid,

0:26:140:26:16

from his house where he lived in Bolham,

0:26:160:26:19

here to St Peter's Church in Tiverton, where he is buried.

0:26:190:26:22

He was succeeded by his grandson, John Heathcoat Amory.

0:26:260:26:30

The factory continued to prosper into the 20th century

0:26:300:26:33

and it was the lifeblood of the town, right up until the 1960s.

0:26:330:26:37

Bernard Vickers and his father worked there

0:26:370:26:39

for a total of more than 100 years.

0:26:390:26:42

It was my life.

0:26:450:26:47

I was born, literally, within about 100 yards of the factory,

0:26:470:26:52

in one of the houses that Heathcoat had acquired.

0:26:520:26:55

People that lived in Tiverton,

0:26:550:26:57

the first place you looked for a job was at THE factory.

0:26:570:27:01

In my dad's day, it would have been very long hours.

0:27:010:27:04

They worked from six till six and then,

0:27:040:27:07

if they couldn't read or write, which a lot of them couldn't,

0:27:070:27:10

they were expected to go to night school

0:27:100:27:12

to learn to read or write in the school

0:27:120:27:15

that John Heathcoat had set up.

0:27:150:27:18

I was one of those that ran about with little pieces of paper.

0:27:180:27:22

It was very friendly, I think.

0:27:220:27:24

Families worked there, and it was really a pleasant place to work.

0:27:240:27:29

Today, the factory at Tiverton is still in the textiles business,

0:27:310:27:34

but it's no longer owned by the Heathcoats.

0:27:340:27:37

It was John Heathcoat Amory who built this house in 1869.

0:27:370:27:41

His grandfather built a town on lace

0:27:410:27:44

and he continued the business in the spirit of John Heathcoat,

0:27:440:27:48

an inventor, a businessman and a benefactor.

0:27:480:27:51

And what better way to do it than from a big, grand house,

0:27:510:27:54

with your factory just visible in the distance?

0:27:540:27:58

Back on our trip around the country,

0:28:050:28:06

we're touching down again at Althorp estate,

0:28:060:28:09

which covers 13,000 acres of woodland, pasture,

0:28:090:28:12

and it even has its own deer park.

0:28:120:28:14

Christina Trevanion, however,

0:28:140:28:16

has no idea who this little sparkler belongs to.

0:28:160:28:19

-So, Jill, is this your watch?

-No.

-No?

-No.

-It's not your watch?

0:28:210:28:25

-Whose watch is it then?

-Well, it was a mistake.

0:28:250:28:28

Oh, really? It's the best-looking mistake I've ever seen!

0:28:280:28:33

Mm, I was walking past my favourite jewellers

0:28:330:28:36

and I saw it in the window and thought,

0:28:360:28:38

"I've never seen anything like that before. It's really nice."

0:28:380:28:41

-Yeah.

-"I know somebody that might like that."

0:28:410:28:43

-But I wasn't with Jill at the time, I was with someone else.

-Mm.

0:28:430:28:47

-And I bought it, gave it to her.

-And she said,

0:28:470:28:50

"It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, thank you!"

0:28:500:28:52

-No?

-She just took one look and said, "I like it but..."

-Oh!

0:28:520:28:58

Which is why Jill's now on the scene, you lucky man.

0:28:580:29:00

CHRISTINA LAUGHS

0:29:000:29:02

Quite probably, actually. Yes, quite probably.

0:29:020:29:05

Well, I think, as a gift goes, a) it was incredibly thoughtful,

0:29:050:29:09

and b) incredibly beautiful. Carl, what was it that you loved about it?

0:29:090:29:14

-I just thought it was dainty. It looked very pretty.

-Mm.

0:29:140:29:18

And I thought the person I was buying it for would appreciate it,

0:29:180:29:22

-but...

-How wrong can you be? Have you learnt your lesson now?

0:29:220:29:25

What I learnt was quite an easy lesson -

0:29:250:29:28

-you can't choose for a lady.

-CHRISTINA LAUGHS

0:29:280:29:31

-A lady needs to choose for herself.

-Her own.

0:29:310:29:34

Very, very wise words there, Carl. If you'd bought this for me,

0:29:340:29:38

I would have been absolutely delighted

0:29:380:29:40

because I think it's an absolute stunner and I would have said,

0:29:400:29:42

"Thank you so much, that's a wonderful gift."

0:29:420:29:44

Let's take it out of the box.

0:29:440:29:46

Looking at it, it just screams art deco, doesn't it?

0:29:460:29:49

It screams that 1920s, 1930s era, that opulence.

0:29:490:29:52

It's got this wonderful canted, rectangular face,

0:29:520:29:55

set with diamonds and these wonderful zigzags

0:29:550:29:57

and then the diamond-set strap again, going down there.

0:29:570:30:00

And, actually, stamped on the back of this case, it says "Platinum".

0:30:000:30:03

Now, platinum, obviously, is one of the most expensive precious metals

0:30:030:30:06

that you can buy, so it really is the best of the best.

0:30:060:30:08

It's a lovely thing. Little manual-wind lady's cocktail watch.

0:30:080:30:12

You can imagine going for cocktails, can't you? Very smart.

0:30:120:30:14

At auction, they are popular as dress pieces.

0:30:140:30:19

It's a very collectible era and it's a very wearable thing still.

0:30:190:30:22

-How long ago did you buy this?

-About 15 or 20 years.

0:30:220:30:25

15 or 20 years ago, OK. I think, at auction,

0:30:250:30:28

we're probably looking somewhere in the region of maybe £250 to £350,

0:30:280:30:33

bearing in mind the diamond weight that's in there

0:30:330:30:36

and, obviously, the platinum weight as well.

0:30:360:30:38

What's your thoughts about that?

0:30:380:30:39

It's fine by me because it's not something I own,

0:30:390:30:42

it's something I bought for somebody else but she didn't want it

0:30:420:30:44

or appreciate it, so I just kept it.

0:30:440:30:46

Adding it to a collection of crystal that I've got,

0:30:460:30:48

-it doesn't really suit a collection of crystal.

-No, quite.

0:30:480:30:51

-It should be in a watch collection or, preferably...

-Or being worn.

0:30:510:30:54

-Being worn.

-Jill, would you wear it?

-I would if it fitted.

-Does it?

0:30:540:30:59

-But it doesn't.

-Oh.

-I've got rather large wrists.

0:30:590:31:02

Oh, I'm sure we could find a piece of string, maybe, or something.

0:31:020:31:06

So, would you like to sell it then, chaps?

0:31:060:31:08

I would because I think that I would like to give Jill something,

0:31:080:31:13

but not this, because this was for somebody else and so...

0:31:130:31:16

So, put the money towards something that...

0:31:160:31:19

Towards something that Jill would like.

0:31:190:31:21

Such as possibly a visit down to see her lost son

0:31:210:31:25

-that she hasn't seen for 46 years.

-Oh, my goodness, wow-ee.

0:31:250:31:28

That sounds like a very, very worthwhile thing to put it towards.

0:31:280:31:32

-So, if we say estimate £250 to £350, with a reserve of £250?

-That's fine.

0:31:320:31:37

-Is that all right?

-That's fine.

-Fantastic. Wonderful.

0:31:370:31:40

Thank you so much for bringing it in. It's a lovely thing.

0:31:400:31:43

Isn't that a beauty?

0:31:430:31:44

On "Flog It!", we travel all over the British Isles

0:31:460:31:49

and we're privileged to meet thousands of you

0:31:490:31:51

and value your antiques. But it's not just items you bring us.

0:31:510:31:55

You share your stories and your memories,

0:31:550:31:57

and here's one of my favourites from Herstmonceux in East Sussex.

0:31:570:32:01

Take it away, Catherine Southern.

0:32:010:32:02

Tony, I cannot tell you how much I adore these boots

0:32:040:32:08

that you've brought along to "Flog It!" today.

0:32:080:32:11

But the big question is, where do they come from?

0:32:110:32:14

Well, my grandfather was a saddle maker

0:32:140:32:18

and he decided to make his young two or three-year-old daughter

0:32:180:32:21

a pair of boots and he lived next door to a boot maker,

0:32:210:32:25

with whom he was great friends.

0:32:250:32:27

They obviously got chatting and the boot maker gave him instructions

0:32:270:32:31

how to make a pair of boots, and there they are.

0:32:310:32:34

And my mother wore those boots

0:32:340:32:35

when she was, what, two or three years old,

0:32:350:32:38

and they've been in my family ever since my mother died

0:32:380:32:40

and I inherited my mother's things.

0:32:400:32:42

And I think they're pretty little boots

0:32:420:32:44

but they're a bit too small for me.

0:32:440:32:46

You mean to say you haven't tried them on?

0:32:460:32:49

Let's have a look at your grandfather first of all,

0:32:490:32:52

because I think this is such a wonderful photograph.

0:32:520:32:55

What is he making here? Is this actually a saddle?

0:32:550:32:57

No, it's not a saddle. It is a horse collar

0:32:570:32:59

and horses were, of course, used extensively on the farm

0:32:590:33:02

in both world wars.

0:33:020:33:04

And it's lovely to see that you've got all the tools here

0:33:040:33:06

in the background. There's his bench.

0:33:060:33:08

You can imagine how these boots were actually made in this workshop,

0:33:080:33:12

-can't you?

-I can, yes. He had everything there to make them with.

0:33:120:33:15

He clearly had the skill at leather-working in making the boots.

0:33:150:33:18

And it would have been wonderful for him to make something like this

0:33:180:33:23

for his children - something to be really proud of.

0:33:230:33:25

Making things for the horses is one thing,

0:33:250:33:28

but to actually make something like this wonderful pair of boots

0:33:280:33:31

would be something completely different.

0:33:310:33:33

But these, we think, probably date from the First World War.

0:33:330:33:36

These date from just after the First World War.

0:33:360:33:38

I would say 1918 or something like that, 1920.

0:33:380:33:42

The craftsmanship that's gone into them is quite super.

0:33:420:33:45

There is a little bit of wear on them.

0:33:450:33:47

-She probably hardly wore these.

-Yep, before she grew out of them.

0:33:470:33:50

And it's lovely to think that you've looked after them.

0:33:500:33:53

It's not something that you've just thrown away.

0:33:530:33:55

And these other two odd boots, which I guess were also made for your...?

0:33:550:33:59

Yes, unfortunately, I don't have the other pair to them

0:33:590:34:02

but they were also in the same container that I got from my mother.

0:34:020:34:05

OK, I think, had it just been the boots,

0:34:050:34:07

they wouldn't be as important,

0:34:070:34:09

but the fact that you've got that wonderful story and the picture

0:34:090:34:12

of your grandfather, it really is just fantastic.

0:34:120:34:15

Well, I'm reluctant, in some ways, to part with them,

0:34:150:34:17

but I've now had to, myself, downsize from a large house.

0:34:170:34:22

I don't have the space for them any more.

0:34:220:34:24

My children don't have the same association with my grandfather

0:34:240:34:28

that I had, so I think it's time to pass them on to someone

0:34:280:34:31

who will value them and be interested in them,

0:34:310:34:33

-as you and I have been.

-Absolutely.

0:34:330:34:35

Well, I think a collector will be interested in them.

0:34:350:34:38

-They're a little bit of history, aren't they?

-They really are,

0:34:380:34:41

and super that you have the photograph of your grandfather.

0:34:410:34:43

Yes, he looks a bit like Einstein, a bit, doesn't he?

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He does, actually, doesn't he? Well, he was pretty smart, making these.

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He was a pretty smart man.

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It's hard to put a value on something like this,

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because I think they're worth £1,000.

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They're wonderful, sentimentally.

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But in terms of what they are really worth

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to somebody else at auction, it's a difficult one.

0:35:020:35:05

I think that we should probably put an estimate on

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of around £40 to £60, which isn't an awful lot.

0:35:080:35:12

But I think, if we sell them all together

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-and if we can actually copy that photograph as well...

-Yes.

0:35:140:35:18

..I think that will really enhance them.

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I really hope they will go to a collector,

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somebody who can really appreciate the craftsmanship

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and the history behind them.

0:35:260:35:27

-Yes, thank you very much indeed.

-Thank you.

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You have really, really made my day.

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The "Flog It!" trip has nearly come to a close,

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and hasn't it been a great ride?

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Just time for one last valuation from Reading Town Hall.

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Off you go, Nick Davies, the clock is ticking.

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Two very similar pocket watches.

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They look identical but they're a little bit different.

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Tell me how you came about them.

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Well, this one belonged to my father, and that was my uncle,

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-his brother.

-What did your uncle do for a living? Can you remember?

0:35:530:35:56

-No, but he had a good job.

-He had a good job. Was he very important?

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-He was a bit important, yes.

-A bit important.

-Mm.

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And would he have worn his waistcoat with his pocket watch and chain?

0:36:030:36:06

-Oh, absolutely.

-And your dad - what did he do for a living?

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-He was a hairdresser.

-A hairdresser.

-A barber.

-A barber.

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Well, talking about these watches, similar, as I said -

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but, believe it or not, they come from

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completely different sides of the planet.

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This one's from the good old USA and this one's from Switzerland.

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We'll start with the Waltham -

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Massachusetts, and exported pocket watches

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and wall clocks over to the UK in their droves.

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They used to send a lot of the movements

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over to the jewellery quarter in Birmingham,

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where they'd put them in cases.

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Some gold cases, some not gold cases. This is a gold-plated case.

0:36:400:36:43

-So, that was your dad's. American, mass-produced, gold-plated.

-Mm-hmm.

0:36:430:36:48

Your uncle's come from Europe and this is by a very famous company

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and I know you know who it is,

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cos you told me when you first came here.

0:36:530:36:55

-It's by Rolex.

-Yes.

-So, similar, but very, very different.

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The mechanisms are more or less the same.

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I'm just going to turn the watches round, OK,

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so they can have a look at home. There we go.

0:37:040:37:07

This is a gold case as well.

0:37:070:37:09

You tend to find, with better quality items,

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not only do they take time with the item itself -

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whether it be furniture or ceramics or glass -

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anything that goes around it, the bases are decorated.

0:37:160:37:19

And this has a nice gold case to go round with it.

0:37:190:37:22

The dates are very similar. This one I can hallmark and date accurately.

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This is 1927. Exactly the same sort of period.

0:37:250:37:29

Now, at the front, we've got the gold chain,

0:37:290:37:32

which I suspect goes with the gold watch?

0:37:320:37:35

-Yes, I think so.

-Yeah, I think so.

0:37:350:37:37

So, those two go together and rather handsome they are too.

0:37:370:37:41

And as you can see from the front,

0:37:410:37:43

-there's not much to pull between them, is there?

-Not really.

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Both with Roman numerals, both white enamelled dials.

0:37:450:37:48

Obviously, that's got "Waltham" on it

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and that one's got the Rolex name on it.

0:37:490:37:51

-Shall we talk about a price?

-Yes.

-The difference in price.

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Absolutely, yes.

0:37:550:37:57

The Waltham, as I said, mass-produced.

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You see a lot of them. Also, if you look on the outside,

0:37:590:38:02

you can see the gold-plating that's worn.

0:38:020:38:04

Another giveaway. That's worth about £20 at auction.

0:38:040:38:08

Your Rolex - it's got a little dink in the case there

0:38:100:38:13

but, apart from that... I'm being picky, I know. It's my job.

0:38:130:38:16

Got to be picky. Apart from that, it's in really good order.

0:38:160:38:19

They're both running, they both work.

0:38:190:38:21

-That one's probably in the region of £250, £350.

-As much as that?

0:38:210:38:26

-As much as that. Big difference, isn't it, between the two?

-Yes.

0:38:260:38:30

And, of course, you've got the gold chain on top,

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which is probably worth another couple of hundred pounds.

0:38:320:38:35

So, all in all, you're talking that little group there - £400 to £500.

0:38:350:38:41

£20.

0:38:420:38:44

But I suspect that's got more sentimental value

0:38:440:38:46

-than that will ever have cos it was your dad's.

-That's right, yes.

0:38:460:38:50

Really nice thing, and nice to have the two of them together

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and show the difference between the two.

0:38:520:38:54

We'll put them together as a group.

0:38:540:38:56

I think an estimate of £400 to £500. Happy with that?

0:38:560:38:59

-Yes, that sounds good.

-What do you think you'll do with the money?

0:38:590:39:02

Well, I've got five grandchildren.

0:39:020:39:04

Five grandchildren, so shall we try and get them £100 each?

0:39:040:39:06

-That would be good.

-That would be good, wouldn't it?

0:39:060:39:08

-It would.

-Then you've got no favourites.

-That's true.

0:39:080:39:11

Time's up for all our items,

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as we take our final trip to the auction room.

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And here's what we're taking with us.

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Diamonds weren't Jill's best friend,

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but they're sure to make someone else happy.

0:39:220:39:24

Less Puss in Boots, more Mum in Boots.

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Will anyone walk away with these handcrafted boots?

0:39:300:39:33

And we've just got enough time on our hands

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to put these two pocket watches to the test.

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First, it's back to Gildings in Market Harborough

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to see if the bidders want those diamonds forever.

0:39:460:39:49

We're all ready now, aren't we? It's great to see you and you, Christina.

0:39:500:39:54

Are you ready for this? We've got a lady's diamond watch.

0:39:540:39:56

It is stunning. It's so typically 1930s.

0:39:560:39:59

But also, on the valuation day, I think I valued the watch

0:39:590:40:01

at £250 to £350, or £300 to £500, I can't remember.

0:40:010:40:04

But there's been an amended estimate.

0:40:040:40:06

-The auction room's been in touch with you, haven't they?

-Yes.

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And they've put that up now to a fixed reserve of £500,

0:40:090:40:11

so we're looking at around £500 to £750, £800. Who knows?

0:40:110:40:15

It could go even higher. Good luck with it. Here we go.

0:40:150:40:17

The art deco diamond-set cocktail watch here.

0:40:170:40:20

-And the telephones are waiting to come in.

-Oh, good.

0:40:200:40:22

-Telephones are waiting.

-That means it should go with the estimate.

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At £400. At £400. 420.

0:40:260:40:30

440. Here at £440. 460.

0:40:300:40:33

-On the telephone - good.

-Telephone bid at 460.

0:40:330:40:35

480. 500.

0:40:350:40:37

-Hit your reserve. Well done, guys.

-At £500.

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Telephone bidder. We're out in the room.

0:40:410:40:43

-At £500.

-HE BANGS GAVEL

0:40:430:40:45

-That was short and sweet. Hit that reserve.

-Yeah.

0:40:450:40:48

Well done for putting the reserve up.

0:40:480:40:50

-£500. That's good.

-That is good.

0:40:500:40:51

-That's exactly what you wanted.

-Yeah.

0:40:510:40:53

-And, hopefully, you can use that money wisely.

-Yes.

0:40:530:40:55

Next, we're going east to Rye Auction Galleries,

0:40:570:40:59

and those charming handmade boots are stepping up to the test.

0:40:590:41:03

Just been joined by Tony and our lovely expert, Catherine,

0:41:030:41:06

and I'm surprised, actually, that you're selling them,

0:41:060:41:09

because I know they're only around £40 to £60.

0:41:090:41:11

Well, the children are not keen on them and they're too small for me.

0:41:110:41:15

Well, fingers crossed, we're going to find a new home for these shoes.

0:41:150:41:18

They're going under the hammer right now.

0:41:180:41:20

A nice selection of leather boots. There we go.

0:41:200:41:23

Start them at 32. 32 we have.

0:41:230:41:25

At 32. Do I see 35?

0:41:250:41:27

They're very decorative. 35. 38. 40?

0:41:270:41:29

40 on the net. At £40. It's on the net at £40.

0:41:290:41:33

Do I see 2? At £40 then. I will sell them.

0:41:330:41:37

-At £40 then.

-HE BANGS GAVEL

0:41:370:41:39

-Sold, £40. You were right.

-On the internet. They sold on the internet.

0:41:390:41:42

Hopefully, they've gone to, let's say,

0:41:420:41:44

a shoe shop or an old cobblers,

0:41:440:41:46

where they can use them to display in the window.

0:41:460:41:48

-Exactly, attract attention.

-And everyone can enjoy looking at them.

0:41:480:41:51

And our final auction is at Martin & Pole in Wokingham,

0:41:510:41:54

where the classy pocket watches are out of time.

0:41:540:41:58

Lesley, it's good to see you,

0:41:590:42:01

and we've got some real treasures going under the hammer.

0:42:010:42:04

This is quality. We've got two pocket watches and an Albert chain,

0:42:040:42:06

and one of the watches is Rolex. I'm quite excited about this.

0:42:060:42:09

-Why are you selling them anyway?

-Well...

-Just in a drawer?

0:42:090:42:12

Nobody wears them.

0:42:120:42:13

Nobody wants to inherit them later on, somewhere down the line?

0:42:130:42:16

-Possibly.

-Let's find out what they're worth.

0:42:160:42:18

They're going under the hammer right now, as one lot. Here we go.

0:42:180:42:20

The Rolex nine-carat gold full hunter pocket watch

0:42:200:42:23

and the Waltham pocket watch and an Albert. Three items in this lot.

0:42:230:42:27

Absentee bids on this one. I'll start with me at £400.

0:42:270:42:31

420 anywhere? With me at £400.

0:42:310:42:34

420. 450. 480. 500.

0:42:340:42:37

550. 600.

0:42:370:42:39

At £600 now. With me at £600 and selling.

0:42:390:42:43

-Any more? All done, at £600.

-HE BANGS GAVEL

0:42:430:42:46

-And the gavel's gone down.

-That's really good.

-£600.

0:42:460:42:48

-We're happy, aren't we? You're happy.

-Yes.

0:42:480:42:50

I can see it in your face.

0:42:500:42:52

You can split the money between the grandsons now, can't you?

0:42:520:42:54

-Split the money.

-Mm.

-Yes.

-And treat yourself.

-Ooh, I don't think so.

0:42:540:42:58

Oh, come on!

0:42:580:43:00

Well, what a great result for Lesley.

0:43:030:43:05

I do hope she treats herself to some of that £600.

0:43:050:43:09

Sadly, we're coming to the end of today's show.

0:43:090:43:11

We must say farewell to Knightshayes,

0:43:110:43:13

a magnificent house and gardens, with wonderful stories to tell,

0:43:130:43:17

which plenty of people are enjoying today.

0:43:170:43:20

If you've got any unwanted antiques and collectibles you want to sell,

0:43:200:43:23

come along to one of our valuation days.

0:43:230:43:25

Details of up-and-coming dates and venues

0:43:250:43:27

you can find on our BBC website, so dust them down and bring them in.

0:43:270:43:30

Until the next time, it's goodbye.

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