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Flog It visits many places which are described as market towns -

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Chesterfield certainly fits that bill.

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There are around 250 stalls here,

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which makes it one of the largest open-air markets in the country.

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And market day is every Monday, Friday and Saturday.

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On Thursdays, there's an antique and farmers market combined.

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So there's not much you can tell the good people of Chesterfield about value for money.

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We're certainly going to have a work cut out today convincing them that our estimates are right.

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And this is where it all starts, and quite literally so, because it is the beginning of the queue.

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All the people of Chesterfield are here to get their antiques and

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collectables valued by the best in the business, our Flog It experts Nigel Smith and Charlie Ross.

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And if they hear favourable news, well, they might just decide to flog it, and that is what it's all about.

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So let's get straight down to business. What's Charlie found?

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This has taken my eye. I haven't got a clue what it is, but you can tell me.

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-No, I've no idea.

-You have no idea what it is?

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-It's got a little cutter inside, that's why I brought it, to see what it was.

-I know it's a poodle.

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I know it's a poodle!

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-But its tail is unusually long.

-Yes.

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I'm hoping it's silver.

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Aha, I can see what it is.

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It's a cutter. It is a cheroot cutter, it's not big enough to be a cigar cutter.

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-Quite obviously this is not for a masculine...not for cutting a Havana cigar.

-No.

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Besides, you would think the chap was a bit strange if he took this out of his pocket.

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You would say hello, hello, hello! So it's a very female object.

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I think we'll find a collector. I think the auctioneers will find a collector for this.

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I'm not finding a hallmark, so it's silver plate.

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-Right.

-So we're not going to be selling it to silver collectors,

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-but we are going to sell it to cheroot cutter collectors.

-Ah, good.

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It's splendidly modelled. I think the wackiest thing is the tail. SHE LAUGHS

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But I think this is one of those golden Flog It moments

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where I've fallen in love with something that isn't worth much!

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But I don't think that matters.

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I think it's splendid. I think it's worth about £50.

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-Oh, nice.

-I think with your permission we'll get the auctioneers

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to sell it without reserve, if you're happy with that?

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-No, that's fine.

-I think we will get plenty of interest, and if people think it's there

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-to be sold, which it is, I think we might get a pleasant surprise.

-Nice.

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It won't provide you with a huge amount of money,

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but it'll provide a collector with something that they've got to have, they've got to have.

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-Thank you for bringing it along.

-You're welcome.

-I love it.

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-Geoff.

-Yes.

-Thank you for struggling in with this marvellous array of trains.

-It's OK.

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-It's mainly Hornby, isn't it? Nearly all Hornby.

-Hornby and Triang, yes.

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-Are you a train enthusiast?

-No, it's a dream I've always had, of course.

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-Really?

-Yes, but we belong to the Staveley Methodist Church and one of our members...

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while we were fund-raising for refurbishment work...

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..donated all this equipment that used to belong to her husband

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to sell on behalf of the church.

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-How wonderful! It was very generous.

-Yes.

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Some of these aren't terribly old. I think they date from the 1970s most of it, really.

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-Yes.

-But some of them are quite good quality die-cast engines, and others are plastic-cased ones.

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An awful lot are in the original boxes, which is what the collectors like.

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Nice little set there.

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It has the original price on there.

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In addition to this, we have an extensive collection of track

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and all sorts of paraphernalia. We've got a bridge here.

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And some very smart Pullman coaches. I've had a look through the collection.

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I think if we put a broad estimate of 100 to 200 on the lot,

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-that's where we're going to be, and we'll sell them for you.

-Good.

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But the railways stuff is still very commercial, very saleable, a lot of enthusiasts and collectors out there.

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-I don't think we'll struggle to get you a reasonable price for this.

-Good.

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-Let's hope we make a lot of money for the Staveley Methodist Church.

-Yes.

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Diana, this is something for the purists.

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-It's possibly the oldest thing we've had on the show for a long time.

-Oh, right.

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-It's from the 18th century.

-Really?

-Do you know what it's called?

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No. It's a leather blackjack, or sometimes they're costrels.

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They would be for carrying beer or wine.

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You've got two holes here, which would take a rope. You can hang it on the side of a cart.

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You can put it over your shoulder, or just take the rope off and use them in the house.

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-And you could use it as a pitcher.

-Mm-hm.

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And the leather is absolutely rock hard.

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They get the leather this hard by tanning it in water.

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It's steeped in a hot mixture

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of water and bark.

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It's taken out, and they then tan the leather

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by putting it into fresh running water and getting a couple of really flat stones and literally beating

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-the hell out of the leather.

-Quite a process, then.

-Literally.

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And once the leather has dried out, it absolutely goes rock hard.

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Where did you come by this?

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It was in the house. We bought an old property 20 years ago, and the lady who was selling

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the house had quite a few pieces, and this was one of them.

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-And you just acquired it?

-Yeah. I didn't know what it was.

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Where has it been in the house?

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It's been in...

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-the toilet.

-Has it?

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In the children's toilet.

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And they put their marbles down there or something.

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Yeah, marbles, sweeties, pennies, and I don't know what else is in there.

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These are real decorator's item.

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Country furniture and oak dealers absolutely love them, and they look

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at their best when you get them three or four in a group together

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of varying different sizes, and they look great on an old Welsh dresser or court cupboard.

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And it definitely is 18th century.

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-Gosh.

-It's that early.

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Look at the wonderful stitching. The stitching has survived the passage of time.

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Look how thick it is.

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I just love

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-that's rusty, crusty look.

-Mmm.

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It's grotty, that is.

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Well, yes, that's its charm. It's got its own little personality.

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I could see that on the side of a hay wagon, something like that.

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It's gorgeous. Any idea of value?

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I haven't got a clue, actually. A few hundred pounds?

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Yes, it is actually. You're spot-on. A couple of hundred pounds.

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On a good day in the right sale, maybe £250 to £300. I love it.

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-I absolutely adore it. Shall we flog it?

-Yeah.

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Let's put it into auction with a value of £200 to £250.

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-OK.

-OK?

-Mm-hm. You think that's a fair price?

-I think that's a fair price.

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And if it gets £300, then we're laughing.

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Cos it would have done £300 a few years ago.

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Karen and Jane, hunting in a pack today, I see. Not just one of you. Why have you both come along?

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Not that you shouldn't, of course.

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Because we've both got an interest in these chairs and where they're going to go.

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-Right.

-And we couldn't carry them...

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And we couldn't carry them...one of us couldn't carry them ourselves.

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-How many have you brought along?

-Two.

-Two. And how many have you got?

-Six.

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-And are they all in the same condition?

-They are, yes.

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And you inherited them?

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Yes, our other sister in Newcastle passed them on to me.

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-Right. Does your sister know you're selling them?

-Yes, she does.

-She does, you're sure?

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-The first thing she won't see is you on telly raking the money in?

-No, she knows.

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I presume you know how old they are?

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-Yes, we think they date back to about 1860.

-Yeah, I would think that's pretty well spot-on.

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You've been told that, or have you worked it out yourself?

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We were told that they will balloon backs dating back to 1860 and made from walnut.

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Well, you're absolutely right in every regard there.

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They are walnut, they are balloon back and nicely carved front cabriole leg.

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A delicate cabriole leg.

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They are...WERE...

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a very, very popular design of chair.

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Quite often, they were made as part of a salon suite.

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You might have six chairs -

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a lady's chair, gent's chair and a chaise longue of the same sort of format.

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The problem with walnut is it's a very soft wood and invariably gets the dreaded worm.

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I'm going to turn them upside down now.

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And see the worm, which...

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-Not a single hole.

-No.

-Good.

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-Have you ever looked underneath?

-Yes.

-And it's amazing.

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And the brackets, the strengthening brackets at each corner are, I'm sure, the original ones?

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-Yes.

-With the original screws.

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This is about to the original as you can get from a Victorian chair.

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It's astonishing. And it's got a stamp on it here.

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It says "R Robson, Newcastle".

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I have to say, sadly, I don't know who R Robson was, but he made a damn good bit of furniture.

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Had you come along years ago, I would have been giving you

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a much different figure to the figure I give you today.

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And I'm going to ask you what you think they're worth.

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-We don't really know.

-No, we don't.

-You must have a...

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You can't have brought them along thinking they're worth a fiver or 5,000 or...

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-I think they're sort of like, erm...

-Have a go.

-About £350 for the six of them.

-Yeah.

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-£350.

-That's right.

-You're agreed with that?

-Roughly.

-I think that's pretty good.

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I think I would estimate them at 300 to 500.

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If we could put a reserve of...let's say £300, give the auctioneer a bit of discretion in case he gets close.

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-Right.

-Would you be happy with that?

-Yes.

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So if we can turn them into a few hundred pounds, who's having the money? Your sister?

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-Yes... No, no, definitely not.

-You're having it to go and see another sister.

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You're having it. What are you going to do with it?

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Me and my family are going on holiday to Australia at Christmas.

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Fantastic!

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Great. Well that will get one of you halfway there!

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It certainly will.

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Well, it's now time for our first visit to the auction room,

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and an owner's quirky poodle-shaped cheroot cutter is certainly unusual.

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But will it catch somebody's eye?

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Are the Hornby trains on track to make a decent donation to the church restoration project?

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The girls' balloon back walnut chairs are in great condition

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and could fund a trip Down Under.

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And finally, it's my favourite. The leather blackjack pitcher.

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For our auction today, we've come to Bamfords auction house in Matlock.

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It's one of my favourite auction rooms. On the rostrum is our good friend, James Lewis.

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I wonder what he thinks of some of our valuations.

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I absolutely love this. I've fallen in love with it.

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Belongs to Diana. Not for much longer.

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This is going to sell, definitely. I put £200 to £250.

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I've seen them do a lot more. It's a shame it's not dated.

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-It'd be up there in the £1,000 sort of value.

-Yeah.

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It's a lovely blackjack, leather, English, 17th century -

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-says it all, doesn't it?

-Yes, it does. Do you know, I unwrapped that and I knew exactly who'd had that.

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I knew you'd valued it, I knew you'd picked it. And I love it.

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-It's fantastic.

-It's so rare! Not many of these things come in, I've got to stress that.

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We don't get a lot of purist things. This is folk art at its very, very best.

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And whoever buys this, I'm sure they'll have a collection, cos they'll understand it.

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A lot of people don't understand this. It's like the leather fire bucket.

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It's, "No, I wouldn't give you £300 for one of those," but they're worth every single penny.

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It's a purist. If you have a 17th- century interior,

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or an early 18th-century Derbyshire farmhouse, this will look fantastic amongst the oak...

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and the copper and...oh, fantastic!

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Love it. If I was allowed to bid, I would.

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Well, let's get straight on with the auction and first up it's Anona.

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What's the history of that name?

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-Believe it was North American Indian.

-Yeah.

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-In the name books now, it's classed as Latin.

-Classed as Latin.

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Beautiful, isn't it? First time I've ever come across that

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and it's the first time I've seen a little poodle dog modelled as a cheroot cutter.

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We've got £50 on this.

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It is absolutely charming. It is razor sharp, isn't it, as well.

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-But you're flogging it. You don't want to keep it.

-No, it's just been in a drawer, so it might as well go.

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Well, I know it caught the eye of our expert, Charlie Ross here. ..It's very nice.

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It's a nice little thing and we're selling it without reserve, so...

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It's bound to go. There's no pressure, is there?

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Good luck, Anona. It's going under the hammer, right now.

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Lot 120

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is this very pretty little cheroot cutter -

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there it is in the form of a poodle.

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I've got a single bid on commission

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and I'll start it at £40 on commission. 40 and two. 42. 45.

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48 and 50. At £50 with me. And 2? Are we all done, 52 anywhere?

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At 50, and selling.

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-Bang, yes, well done.

-About right.

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What a great valuation! You said £50. That was a spot-on valuation.

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That was a proper value, for once.

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For my poodle.

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It's not a great deal of money. I guess, have a meal, a few bottles of wine.

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That's for the children - donkey rides, ice creams on holiday.

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Exactly. Thank you very much for coming in.

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Thank you very much.

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I've just been joined by Geoffrey and Barbara.

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We've got some Hornby trains with a lot of rail in original boxes, up for grabs.

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£1 to £200 we've put on this.

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-Now, the money is going towards the church, isn't it?

-Yes.

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Tell me all about it. What church, where and what are you doing?

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It's Staveley Methodist Church.

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The train set has been donated by an elderly lady.

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In the last few years, we've had to have some new windows.

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-What church is this?

-Staveley Methodist Church.

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-Whereabouts is this?

-Near Chesterfield.

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This is it. Good luck, you two.

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For 490, the Hornby railways.

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There we are. Quite a lot of this.

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Again, interest. We've got one internet bid.

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We've got one absentee bid, and I can start it at £85. 90.

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95 anywhere? 95 front row.

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95. 100. 110. 120. 130.

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140. 150 has it.

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160 new place. 170.

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180. 190. 200. Shakes his head at 200.

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190 still at the front. At 190.

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Yes, hammer's gone down.

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£190, Barbara. Got to be pleased with that.

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Yes, yes.

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A little more would have been welcome.

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-At least we almost made it to the 200.

-Exactly.

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They're a great group of people, mostly elderly members now, but they're very supportive

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and generous, and we were hoping we'd have good news to tell them when we went on Sunday.

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You'll have to organise some more church fetes.

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-You can flog your things down there.

-Yes.

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-The money's going to a great cause anyway.

-Yes.

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Are you sitting comfortably? You would be if you were on one

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of Karen and Jane's balloon back chairs, stamped in Newcastle, "Robson".

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We've got a value of £300-£500 on these.

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-Let's hope we get that top end, shall we?

-Definitely.

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They're just about to go under the hammer. ..Charlie?

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I hear you've revised the estimate slightly.

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I haven't revised the estimate. I think the estimate 3-5 should be right.

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But the ladies do not want to take them home, so they said, "What about no reserve?"

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I said, "I can't!" But 200 we've settled on.

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If they don't make 200, I'll shoot the auctioneer.

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Right, we've got 200 fixed reserve.

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Let's see what they do. It's going under the hammer now. This is it.

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Lot 430. This very pretty set of walnut balloon back salon chairs.

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There we are. 200 I can start them at on commission.

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At £220. 220 do I see?

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At 200. Letting them go at £200, it's a single bid.

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Gosh, they'd have made so much more two years ago.

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At £200. 220 do I see? 220 anywhere?

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No. At 200. Going to go, though.

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No mistake, they are selling. At 200.

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Blink and you'll miss it. That was quick.

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Straight in at £200. That was our fixed reserve, and he sold on £200.

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Someone got a good deal, but you're happy with that, aren't you?

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-Yeah.

-I know you didn't want to take them home? It's a lot of chairs.

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-Mmm. Absolutely.

-Cracking chairs. They're going to last another 50 or 60 years, easily.

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Robson. Good maker. They're made right the way through the 18th and 19th century.

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It was Robert Robson who made these chairs.

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It's a silly price in my opinion, but thank goodness we put some reserve on.

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If we hadn't had any reserve, they might have made 40 quid!

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Next up, my favourite item. This was my valuation.

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Diana's late 17th-century, early 18th-century leather bombard.

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It is a wonderful, wonderful vessel. It's survived the passage of time, and I absolutely adore it.

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It's my favourite item I've seen possibly all year. Unfortunately, I can't find Diana.

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We've got a packed sale room. I don't know where she is.

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It's just about to go under the hammer and in fact, it's going under the hammer now.

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This is it. I don't know where she is.

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Hopefully, she'll join me in a minute.

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What a fantastic lot.

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Look at that. It's brilliant. It really is a good thing.

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Early 18th-century English leather jack.

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Wonderful, so rare to find them.

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190 starts it. 200. 220.

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240 on the steps. 260. 280.

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300. 320. 340. 360.

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360 on the steps. At 360. 380 now.

0:19:240:19:29

380 on the phone. 400. 420. No?

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At £400. On the steps at 400.

0:19:320:19:36

I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

0:19:360:19:38

Hang on, this is your lot.

0:19:380:19:40

-GAVEL GOES DOWN

-Did it! £400!

0:19:400:19:42

-Fantastic!

-Where were you?

0:19:420:19:43

-Moving the car. I'm really sorry.

-It's a nightmare out there, isn't it?

0:19:430:19:48

-I know that.

-That's brilliant, though. I'm really pleased.

0:19:480:19:51

-Are you happy with that? 400 quid?

-Yes. Really pleased.

0:19:510:19:54

I thought you were going to miss that for a moment.

0:19:540:19:56

What will you put £400 towards?

0:19:560:19:59

My youngest son wants a guitar.

0:19:590:20:01

Does he? There's a Gibson for sale in this very auction!

0:20:010:20:05

It's about lot number 500, and I know our expert Nigel Smith fancies it.

0:20:050:20:10

-Thank you so much for coming in. That was just so beautiful.

-Really pleased.

0:20:100:20:13

Well, how about that? Some great results.

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And there's plenty more auction action later in the show.

0:20:200:20:23

We've just seen the leather blackjack sell, and what a great result.

0:20:230:20:26

It's a survivor from the 17th century, due to the tanning process.

0:20:260:20:30

I've just been told there's a tannery using traditional methods in Chesterfield,

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so let's go and find out what it's all about.

0:20:350:20:37

About 1 in 10 people in this country don't eat meat for various reasons. I'm one of them.

0:20:410:20:46

I'm a veggie, but I do wear leather shoes and I've got leather belts. I love leather.

0:20:460:20:51

Almost all of us rely on the casing that the meat comes in, the pelt of the animal, if you like.

0:20:510:20:56

So I've come to one of Britain's last remaining working tanneries

0:20:560:21:00

to find out exactly how good quality leather is made.

0:21:000:21:03

I know I've come to the right place, because I can smell it.

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Let's go inside and find out.

0:21:060:21:08

Joseph Clayton set up his tanning business here in Chesterfield in 1840.

0:21:090:21:14

There was a growing demand for leather products in rapidly industrialising Victorian England.

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And the arrival of the railways swelled the demand for leather for upholstery, and the factories

0:21:200:21:25

and mills needed miles and miles of leather drive belts for their new machinery.

0:21:250:21:30

Tanning itself was becoming an industrial process.

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And Clayton's was at the forefront.

0:21:330:21:36

OK, so how is it done? I'm going to give it a go.

0:21:420:21:44

Hope you're not feeling squeamish, but you have to get your pelt.

0:21:440:21:48

This would arrive from the slaughterhouse,

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either fresh, like this lot here - look, there's a whole herd here - or it dried and salted.

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The skin of the cow would have been cut in such a way

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to produce the most desirable piece possible,

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so this meant you had to cut the sides, the back and the rear end

0:22:000:22:06

to produce one whole piece.

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Then it's got to be heavily soaked.

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Afterwards, it's scraped with a very sharp blade, on one side to remove

0:22:220:22:27

the remnants of flesh, and on the other to get rid of all the hair.

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It's the bit we don't like thinking about.

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It doesn't smell, it absolutely stinks!

0:22:340:22:37

We've soaked the skin, we've cleaned it on the back and the front.

0:22:420:22:46

It then goes through a lengthy process of being dipped in a series of tanks

0:22:460:22:50

which you can see here - look at them all - and they're very deep.

0:22:500:22:53

Once the skin is immersed in that, it will then stabilise it, give it its strength.

0:22:530:22:59

-I've just been joined by Barry Knight, who's been working on this shop floor for 25 years, yes?

-Yes.

0:22:590:23:04

Now you're flogging leather all over the world, so you've worked your way up.

0:23:040:23:09

What is in these tanks, and is it dangerous?

0:23:090:23:12

It's only dangerous if you fall in it. It's a mixture of tree bark, that's extracted, and we produce

0:23:120:23:18

a liquor out of it which we use as the basis for the tanning.

0:23:180:23:21

That is a good example of what it looks like when we get it.

0:23:210:23:25

This one is called quebracho.

0:23:250:23:26

-So that's the ground-down bark?

-Yes.

0:23:260:23:29

This is a South American hardwood, its translation is axe breaker.

0:23:290:23:33

-Because it was so hard?

-Yes.

0:23:330:23:36

So that also gives it a bit of its colour.

0:23:360:23:39

Absolutely. The colour of natural leather is determined by the tannage.

0:23:390:23:44

-This is the most popular colour.

-Absolutely.

0:23:440:23:47

As you can see here, this is a piece of pelt that has been in tanning liquor for just one day

0:23:470:23:52

and, over a series of pits and a short length of time,

0:23:520:23:55

the leather is tanned through.

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It's full of fibre. Those fibres toughen and augment,

0:23:570:24:02

-do they?

-That's right, it's cross linking,

0:24:020:24:04

from a technical point of view, it is referred to as cross linking.

0:24:040:24:08

How long will that process take?

0:24:080:24:10

You start in one tank, and keep moving it from tank to tank?

0:24:100:24:13

Yes. You start off two or three days in the first pit, and the tans become

0:24:130:24:18

increasingly stronger. They'll spend approximately a week in the second pit, and so on.

0:24:180:24:24

-And after about eight or nine weeks, the leather is struck through.

-Right.

0:24:240:24:28

Have you ever fallen in there?

0:24:280:24:30

Yes. When I was working on the tan pits, yes, many times.

0:24:300:24:35

What happened? Straight into the shower?

0:24:350:24:38

In recent years, yes, but back in the old days

0:24:380:24:41

-we'd fill up a process drum with cold water, you get in, quick scrub, back on the job.

-You're joking!

0:24:410:24:47

-Seriously.

-Eugh!

0:24:470:24:51

By the end of the 19th century,

0:24:510:24:53

Clayton's had more than 400 tanning pits in daily use,

0:24:530:24:57

and the site had expanded to cover three acres.

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With the demand for leather so great, America was driving the search

0:25:000:25:04

to discover a faster tanning process.

0:25:040:25:07

Traditionally, it's believed that it would take exactly one year and one day

0:25:120:25:17

to successfully tan leather in those big vats of soup full of oak bark.

0:25:170:25:21

As you would expect, the Americans wanted things done a lot faster. And they got their way.

0:25:210:25:26

They did lots of experimenting and they finally came up with chromic chloride,

0:25:260:25:31

and this reduced the whole process down to exactly one month.

0:25:310:25:34

But the problem was the quality control.

0:25:340:25:37

It wasn't as good as the traditional methods using that oak bark.

0:25:370:25:42

Only in the 20th century did Clayton's embrace chrome tanning,

0:25:430:25:47

and they maintained their vegetable tan yard alongside the new chemical process, and this paid dividends.

0:25:470:25:53

Clayton's are now exporting to more than 50 countries worldwide.

0:25:560:26:01

Barry, what is Clayton's leather famous for?

0:26:010:26:03

What are you making or supplying?

0:26:030:26:05

OK, that's a good question.

0:26:050:26:07

-We're bespoke leather makers, so...

-You can make anything?

0:26:070:26:11

We'll make anything, for example, saddlery.

0:26:110:26:14

We're making the leather for the saddle flap as well as the saddle straps.

0:26:140:26:19

So what percentage of the business goes to the equestrian field?

0:26:190:26:22

Around about 30% of our business goes to equestrian.

0:26:220:26:25

-That's big, isn't it?

-Yeah, very much so.

0:26:250:26:28

We then come onto the fashion leathers.

0:26:280:26:30

-OK.

-We're supplying the world with great fashion leathers, very much en vogue at the moment.

0:26:300:26:36

Will it make handbags as well, boots and purses?

0:26:360:26:39

This is chiefly for waist belts.

0:26:390:26:44

Industrial use - what's that?

0:26:440:26:46

Well, this is used for polishing razor-blades and stainless steel.

0:26:460:26:49

I'm told that a bank of discs made of this leather would polish and sharpen

0:26:490:26:54

approximately 22 million razor blades without being changed.

0:26:540:26:59

-Wow.

-Great piece of leather.

0:26:590:27:00

-That's tough.

-Very, very tough.

0:27:000:27:02

And also, contemporary floor tiles, I see.

0:27:020:27:04

This has been a great success over the last three or four years.

0:27:040:27:08

Very much en vogue and, again, we're winning design awards worldwide with it. Designers love this stuff.

0:27:080:27:14

What would flooring cost per metre of, let's say, that sort of thick,

0:27:140:27:18

aged leather like that...

0:27:180:27:20

OK, you're talking around about £150 a square metre.

0:27:200:27:24

-That's a lot of money, isn't it?

-It sure is.

0:27:240:27:27

-I bet your house is full of it, isn't it?

-Certainly not leather floor tiles!

0:27:270:27:31

They also do a fantastic range of red leather, and you're probably thinking,

0:27:380:27:42

"What do they use that for?" Well, I can tell you.

0:27:420:27:45

If you're ever watching a game of Test cricket anywhere in the world,

0:27:450:27:49

you can be sure that the ball is made of Clayton's leather.

0:27:490:27:52

How's that?

0:27:520:27:54

So it's back to the Winding Wheel for more valuations.

0:28:000:28:03

We've already taken some great items to auction, so let's see what other treasures we can find.

0:28:030:28:09

-Angela?

-Yes.

-What a great teddy bear.

-Yeah, he is.

0:28:100:28:13

-He's probably the best condition teddy bear I've seen in a long time.

-He's been well preserved.

0:28:130:28:17

-He's been well looked after.

-Yeah.

0:28:170:28:20

He's got his original felt pads...

0:28:200:28:22

-Yeah.

-All his fur's there, all his stuffing's there.

0:28:220:28:25

-He's got his lovely snout, and he's got his eyes.

-Beautiful eyes.

0:28:250:28:29

He's not been very well loved up till now.

0:28:290:28:32

-He has, but he's been kept in the cupboard.

-That's not fair.

-Away from the children with his moveable bits.

0:28:320:28:38

-You don't want to be in a cupboard, do you?

-Not really.

0:28:380:28:41

Tell me how you got him, anyway.

0:28:410:28:43

About 20 years ago, I was working with an old lady who had him stuffed in a box in the cellar.

0:28:430:28:49

I collected teddy bears at the time, I decided to take him home and I've had him ever since.

0:28:490:28:55

-Oh.

-I think he's probably about 50 years of age or something more.

0:28:550:28:59

-I would say probably something, probably, a bit more.

-Yeah.

0:28:590:29:03

-I think he's English, probably Chad Valley.

-Yes.

0:29:030:29:06

-And he's still got his growler?

-Yes, he has.

0:29:060:29:09

It's a very short one and very faint, but you can try it.

0:29:090:29:13

-How...?

-Take him forward and then bring him back.

0:29:130:29:17

-FAINT GROWL

-You can hardly hear it.

-It's very faint, but it's there.

0:29:170:29:20

He's got a little burpy growler.

0:29:200:29:22

-I think it's fantastic.

-You love him, don't you?

-I love him.

-Yeah.

0:29:220:29:27

Price - I think cos he's such good condition, I think he's gonna make at least £200 to £300.

0:29:270:29:33

Probably been a bit conservative.

0:29:330:29:35

I think I would recommend, certainly, a fixed reserve of 200.

0:29:350:29:39

-Yes, I think so.

-I think somebody's gonna fall in love with him

0:29:390:29:42

-and pay nearer 300, probably a touch more.

-Probably, yes.

0:29:420:29:45

-Are you going give the money away to your two bruising sons?

-No, on the contrary.

0:29:450:29:51

I need to spend my own inheritance to do what I want to do.

0:29:510:29:54

I like travelling and I might just buy a holiday home and put it towards the fund for that.

0:29:540:29:59

Right. I often think these are better if they've got names.

0:29:590:30:03

Yeah, we just called him Mr Growler, because he growls.

0:30:030:30:07

We'll put that in the catalogue - Mr Growler.

0:30:070:30:10

I think he'll sell extremely well for you.

0:30:100:30:13

-Thank you.

-Thank you for bringing him in.

-Yes, thank you. Pleasure.

0:30:130:30:16

Hi, Joe. Hi, Chris. What have you got there?

0:30:240:30:27

-It's a Chesterfield Transport ticket machine...

-Oh, local interest!

0:30:270:30:31

This is what we always want.

0:30:310:30:33

I remember those!

0:30:330:30:36

That reminds me of, sort of, Reg Varney in On The Buses.

0:30:360:30:39

-"I'll have you, Butler."

-Yeah, that's it.

0:30:390:30:41

This was a Chesterfield Transport one belonging to Richard Leslie Bramley.

0:30:410:30:45

He was the actual driver, yeah.

0:30:450:30:47

They carried these round. When they got on a bus, clicked it into place.

0:30:470:30:51

-They used it to issue the tickets.

-So we're talking about 1960s,

0:30:510:30:55

-1950s, '60s?

-It's possibly as early as '50s, but it's largely '60s and '70s, yeah.

0:30:550:31:00

So what is the interest with ticket machines? Are you a bus driver?

0:31:000:31:05

-Yes, I am, yes.

-There you are!

0:31:050:31:07

So you know the streets like the back of your hand?

0:31:070:31:10

Oh, yes. I've been driving round them for 18 years.

0:31:100:31:13

18 years? Crikey. I think that's a nice piece of history you're keeping.

0:31:130:31:18

-Thank you for bringing it in.

-Thank you.

0:31:180:31:20

Marjorie and Bob, lovely to see you here, with quite a collection.

0:31:240:31:29

I hope you wrapped it up well.

0:31:290:31:30

-Oh, yes.

-No damage?

-Not that we know of.

0:31:300:31:34

We'll have a look. Not that you've done! Oh dear, that sounds ominous.

0:31:340:31:37

Where did you get them from?

0:31:370:31:40

-It was my grandma's.

-Your grandma's?

0:31:400:31:44

Which was passed down to my dad.

0:31:440:31:45

-Yeah.

-And then my dad died, then my mother died.

0:31:450:31:49

This was the one thing I wanted out of the whole house.

0:31:490:31:53

You know what it is, I suppose? Yeah?

0:31:530:31:55

Cranberry glass. Have you had it displayed at home?

0:31:550:31:58

It's been in a glass cabinet.

0:31:580:32:00

In a glass cabinet? It looks good.

0:32:000:32:02

I think any cranberry looks good in quantity.

0:32:020:32:05

It looks nicer, the more you've got of it, really.

0:32:050:32:07

Each shade is slightly, slightly different.

0:32:070:32:11

And it's Victorian. If you pick up a piece,

0:32:110:32:15

and we'll pick up this very, very pretty little jug,

0:32:150:32:19

-and you run your finger over the bottom... Have you done that?

-Yes.

0:32:190:32:23

-Yes.

-And that's the pontil mark on the bottom where they blew it and then they broke it off.

0:32:230:32:28

So you know it's not modern because if you go to a modern piece, reproduction, A, they haven't

0:32:280:32:34

really been able to replicate the cranberry colour. It's a bit reddish, it's a bit garish.

0:32:340:32:39

B, one quick flick of the finger along the bottom

0:32:390:32:42

and you'll find out that it hasn't got that pontil mark.

0:32:420:32:47

I don't think I've seen a pair of jugs of that size before.

0:32:470:32:52

-No.

-They're lovely. Have you ever used them as jugs?

0:32:520:32:55

-No.

-No. They look as though they ought to pour all right.

0:32:550:32:59

Before we come on to value, why do you want to sell them?

0:32:590:33:02

Well, they're just stuck in the cabinet for 21 years.

0:33:020:33:06

-You're fed up looking at them?

-Yes. I've two sons

0:33:060:33:09

-and I wouldn't split them.

-Oh, right. Value.

0:33:090:33:12

-I think if we're going to sell them, the best way is to sell it as a collection.

-Yeah.

0:33:120:33:17

I think you've got a total value of about a couple of hundred pounds here.

0:33:170:33:21

We could pitch the reserve at 150. Would you be happy with that?

0:33:210:33:24

-Yeah.

-We'll bump the old estimate at 200 to 300 and put the reserve at £150.

0:33:240:33:32

-Yeah.

-Who has the money, Marjorie?

0:33:320:33:34

-You or Bob?

-We share.

-You share it?

0:33:340:33:36

-Yes.

-Right. So we've got to get 200 readies

0:33:360:33:39

-so you can have 100 each.

-Yes.

-So what will you do with your hundred, Bob?

0:33:390:33:43

-Well...

-Perhaps you'll give it to Marjorie!

-Holiday.

-Holiday.

0:33:430:33:47

-We're going next week.

-You're going next week?

0:33:470:33:49

-Yeah, to Devon.

-Well, don't spend the money in anticipation!

-No.

0:33:490:33:54

-We might not sell them!

-OK.

-Then you'd be in a pickle.

0:33:540:33:57

Thank you very much indeed

0:33:570:33:58

-for bringing them along.

-OK. Thank you very much.

0:33:580:34:01

-Gerald?

-Yes, sir?

-Now, you know I'm a porcelain man, don't you?

0:34:090:34:13

That's a cracking thing, isn't it?

0:34:130:34:15

It's very, very nice, yeah. It's one of the...

0:34:150:34:18

We do have quite a bit of it and that's one of the stars.

0:34:180:34:21

-You've got quite a bit of it?

-Yes.

-You collect it?

0:34:210:34:24

We did do for quite a number of years.

0:34:240:34:26

It's held its value, I think.

0:34:260:34:28

Well, I hope it's held its value but I haven't told you

0:34:280:34:31

what I think it's worth yet, have I?

0:34:310:34:33

It's a lovely ewer, it's very much in the classical style

0:34:330:34:36

and it's very typical of Royal Vienna.

0:34:360:34:38

Think of the work that's gone into producing that,

0:34:380:34:41

the different ground colours, the gilding, it's a fantastic thing.

0:34:410:34:46

-Date wise, I would think around 1880, something like that.

-Yeah.

0:34:460:34:49

That's my guess. It might be a touch earlier.

0:34:490:34:52

I'd have thought, originally, probably one of a pair or one of a garniture.

0:34:520:34:56

-We didn't see the pair.

-You've only ever seen the one?

-We've only ever seen the one.

-Right.

0:34:560:35:01

Now, what are we gonna say about it in terms of price?

0:35:010:35:04

I would think, 400 to 600.

0:35:040:35:06

-Brilliant.

-Would that disappoint?

0:35:060:35:08

-No, that'd be fine.

-Good, cos I'm gonna try and squeeze you down on the reserve now.

0:35:080:35:13

350? We'd be happy with 350 as reserve?

0:35:150:35:19

Yeah, cos we didn't pay 350 for it.

0:35:190:35:21

I wish you'd told me that before.

0:35:210:35:23

-No!

-How long ago did you buy it?

0:35:230:35:25

1986.

0:35:250:35:27

Right, OK. Well, that's quite a while, that's 20 years ago.

0:35:270:35:31

Well, we've had 20 years of pleasure.

0:35:310:35:33

What are you going to do with the money?

0:35:330:35:35

Well, I'm just going to try and recoup my losses.

0:35:350:35:38

-Right.

-And if there's any spare, the granddaughter's twisted my arm

0:35:380:35:42

slightly and she would like a new phone.

0:35:420:35:45

A new phone?

0:35:450:35:47

Depending how well you do is depending how well she does with the phone.

0:35:470:35:51

A bit of pressure on it for a new phone.

0:35:510:35:53

Piece of lovely 19th-century Royal Vienna

0:35:530:35:56

is converted into a mobile phone.

0:35:560:35:58

-Yes.

-Sad really, isn't it?

0:35:580:36:00

It is. It is sad, isn't it?

0:36:000:36:02

Well, our first lots did well at auction so let's try and do it again. Here's what's coming up next.

0:36:020:36:09

Dorothy's got her eye on a holiday home, so let's hope

0:36:090:36:12

this cute and cuddly chap raises more than an "ah" with the bidders.

0:36:120:36:16

Bob's grandmother's Victorian cranberry glassware

0:36:160:36:19

has been stuck in a cabinet for 20 years, so they're keen to flog it.

0:36:190:36:25

And finally, it's old for new.

0:36:250:36:27

If we can get the right price for this 19th-century Royal Vienna ewer,

0:36:270:36:31

one lucky granddaughter will get her new mobile phone.

0:36:310:36:34

It's now time to up the tempo.

0:36:420:36:45

It's auction time.

0:36:450:36:47

Angela's Chad Valley teddy bear is about to go under the hammer.

0:36:550:36:58

We are looking at £200 to £300.

0:36:580:37:00

Great make. A good English make.

0:37:000:37:03

Was he yours as a little girl?

0:37:030:37:05

No, he wasn't. I acquired him about 20 years ago from a cellar,

0:37:050:37:09

-an old lady's cellar in a box.

-You gave him love, though.

0:37:090:37:12

-Absolutely.

-Does he have a name?

0:37:120:37:14

-Yeah, Mr Growler.

-Mr Growler.

0:37:140:37:16

-He was a growler.

-He does growl.

0:37:160:37:18

Yeah, he caught Nigel's eye.

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I think that's a spot-on valuation. You have a Chad Valley yourself.

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I've got a 1958 Chad Valley. That's given the game away.

0:37:240:37:27

-Not as nice as this one, but it's my favourite. I'd never part with mine.

-Well, no, but...

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But as it wasn't yours as a little girl, that doesn't count. You can flog him.

0:37:310:37:35

Lot 330, there he is.

0:37:350:37:38

What a wonderful, cuddly bear.

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Needs a loving home and £200, he's gonna get one.

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We've got a bid starting at two.

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At £200 and 10, do I see?

0:37:450:37:47

At 210, sir? 220? 230? Are you sure?

0:37:470:37:51

One more?

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-Come on.

-230?

0:37:530:37:55

-Come on, James.

-240. Keep going!

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At £240, it's with me.

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Near the pillar, it's against you. At 240 is with me. Are you sure?

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At £240, absentee bid at 240.

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We will take that. Mid-estimate.

0:38:080:38:11

-Yeah, between the posts.

-That's not bad.

-240 quid.

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What is £240 going to go towards?

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-Well, it'll have to go towards a holiday home in Turkey.

-Sounds good, doesn't it?

0:38:160:38:21

-Why Turkey?

-It's a lovely place. I've been there many times.

-Fallen in love with it?

0:38:210:38:25

-It's lovely, it's an underestimated country.

-OK.

0:38:250:38:28

Marge and Bob's family heirlooms -

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they've been in your family a long time, the cranberry glass.

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It's just about to go under the hammer.

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We had a valuation of £150, £250, with a reserve at 150, but I think

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-you've actually dropped that now.

-Yeah.

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I didn't think you needed to, cos there's a lot of it.

0:38:510:38:54

Erring on the side of caution. You don't want to take it home.

0:38:540:38:57

We're gonna find out right now what they are worth.

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-They're just about to go under the hammer. Good luck.

-There we are,

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lot 475,

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this huge lot of cranberry glass.

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Mainly 19th century, it's a nice lot.

0:39:090:39:11

We've got one, two, three, four bids, and the lowest bid is £170.

0:39:110:39:18

-Oh!

-And the under bidder...

-See, no pressure.

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Didn't have to reduce the reserve.

0:39:210:39:23

220? At 210.

0:39:230:39:26

220, Sir, by the stairs. 230? 240?

0:39:260:39:29

240? 245 with me and 250 has it.

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In the room at 250.

0:39:320:39:35

-260, now?

-This is great, Marge.

0:39:350:39:37

To the left at 250.

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Anywhere else at 250?

0:39:390:39:42

Yes! Sold. Top end.

0:39:420:39:44

-Can I uncross my fingers now?

-£250. Bob, brilliant news, wasn't it?

0:39:440:39:49

-Yes.

-Yes, it was.

0:39:490:39:51

We brought bags to take it home again!

0:39:510:39:54

Oh, fear not. They have gone.

0:39:550:39:58

-The cheque will be in the post in about three weeks' time.

-That's wonderful.

0:39:580:40:02

What will you put the money towards?

0:40:020:40:04

Well, we like coach holidays in this country. It will go towards one.

0:40:040:40:07

-Towards a holiday.

-Ah. Where do you fancy going?

0:40:070:40:10

-Well, we...

-Anywhere in this country. Anywhere in this country.

0:40:100:40:14

This is a lovely little item.

0:40:210:40:22

It belongs to Gerald here, a Vienna ewer. We've got £400 to £600 on it.

0:40:220:40:27

You've got quite a few of these.

0:40:270:40:29

Gerald's testing the market, because he wants to flog the lot.

0:40:290:40:33

-So this is just like a little sample going out, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:40:330:40:36

-It's a good idea, not selling them all at once. If you flood the market, that's them cheap.

-Yeah.

0:40:360:40:41

And, of course, the more you collect, the more you push the price up as well.

0:40:410:40:46

-True.

-Cos you're buying them all up!

0:40:460:40:48

Why have you decided to flog the lot?

0:40:480:40:50

Well, we're retired now and we'd like to put the money to some other use.

0:40:500:40:54

We've got two grandchildren who are very demanding.

0:40:540:40:58

-You wanna treat them?

-Yes.

0:40:580:40:59

The expert that put the 400 to 600 on is our very own Nigel Smith.

0:40:590:41:04

-A great valuation, Nigel.

-Well, I hope so.

-I think you're spot-on.

0:41:040:41:08

It's a quality thing. Quality will always sell, I think. I think you'll do well.

0:41:080:41:12

Lot 290

0:41:120:41:14

is this very nice Vienna ewer and stand.

0:41:140:41:18

I've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 bids on it.

0:41:180:41:24

-11 bids!

-And we've got 350,

0:41:240:41:27

390, 420,

0:41:270:41:30

440, 460, 470,

0:41:300:41:34

490, 510,

0:41:340:41:37

525 and higher. So 530.

0:41:370:41:40

We're in at £530.

0:41:400:41:44

540 in the room? 540, yes, sir.

0:41:440:41:46

By the pillar. 550, 560?

0:41:460:41:49

570, 580? 590?

0:41:490:41:52

-600?

-I love it when this happens.

0:41:520:41:55

600, nodding. 610. 620?

0:41:550:41:56

620. 630, 640?

0:41:560:41:59

640 has it. At 640, this time.

0:41:590:42:03

At 640, are we all done? At 640 and selling.

0:42:030:42:07

-Cracked.

-Brilliant.

0:42:070:42:09

-Very good.

-£640.

0:42:090:42:12

I think that's tested the market absolutely perfectly.

0:42:120:42:15

-You'll be flooding the market next.

-How many have you got?

-One or two.

0:42:150:42:19

One or two? How many is one or two?

0:42:190:42:22

About 30 pieces.

0:42:220:42:23

-30!

-32 pieces.

-32.

0:42:230:42:25

What's 30 times 640?

0:42:250:42:28

-A very rich Gerald!

-Get the van!

0:42:280:42:31

Not all of that quality.

0:42:310:42:33

Very nice.

0:42:330:42:35

Thank you so much for putting a big smile on our face.

0:42:350:42:38

-It's brilliant.

-And a big one on mine.

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Well, that's it. It's all over for our owners

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and I think it's safe to say everybody has enjoyed themselves.

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As you can see, it's been a mixed day.

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Doing those valuations isn't an exact science, so all credit to our experts.

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Join me next time when we put lots more theories to the test.

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So, until then, it's cheerio from Bamfords auction rooms in Matlock.

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