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Wrexham is the principal town of North East Wales.

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It was at the forefront of the Industrial Revolution.

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That was due to John "Iron Man" Wilkinson,

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who founded the Bersham Ironworks in the late 18th century

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and they produced cannon for the British Army

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and also cylinders for James Watt's first steam engine.

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Chugging along nicely today are our two experts Kate Bliss and Philip Serrell.

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They're quite nice.

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-Salt of the earth.

-They'll be picking out the best antiques for our owners to take to auction.

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Whatever you do, stay with us until the end of the line!

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Where Philip Serrell has certainly found a very unusual collection to start the show.

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Bernadette, one word springs to mind.

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Why?

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I'm fascinated by it.

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SHE LAUGHS Fine, yes...

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Especially the frogs.

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-I love frogs.

-Do you?

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I was interested in the development of the frog from the egg to the frog itself.

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-That's why I have them.

-There's a maker's name here, which is T Gerrard & Co.

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They're in Pentonville Road in London.

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They produced models, chemicals and appartus.

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-These would have been produced for school laboratories?

-Yes.

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And what we've got here are all sorts of things...

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We've got a section of the development of a fowl embryo.

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We've got your lovely frogs, haven't we?

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-Yeah.

-We've got mussels.

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I tell you what - moules mariniere will never seem the same again, will it?

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How old are they? I guess '50s?

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-I would imagine so.

-1950s. They're made of plaster, aren't they?

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I believe most of them are plaster of Paris.

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How did you come by them?

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I work in a school and, some years ago, we were clearing a few things out.

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-These were for the skip, really, so I decided I would keep them.

-Right.

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Strangely... I think there is a market for them.

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This would be great for a museum or someone who collects medical things.

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Provided it's advertised properly and promoted properly, which I'm sure they will be,

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-the marketplace will decide the value.

-Right.

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Erm... I'm really guessing here.

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I think we've got to estimate them at £80-£120, that sort of region.

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I think that we can put a reserve on them of around the £60 mark.

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Erm... But I really wouldn't be surprised...

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if they did go and make a lot more,

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because from my point of view, it's just really guesswork. Why are you getting rid of these?

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-I've got nowhere to put them.

-OK.

-I'm fascinated by them, but I've nowhere to put them.

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-Which is your favourite one?

-I love the frogs.

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These are good, too. I like the insides of...

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-Helen, why have you brought this pot along today?

-I'm fed up of it!

-Are you?

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-Yes.

-Why is that, then?

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I've had it a while. I liked it when I bought it,

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but like me - I get fed up of things easily -

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and my daughter died two years ago of a brain tumour,

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so I thought I'd give some money to the cancer Macmillan Fund.

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-What a lovely idea.

-In order to do that, that's gonna go.

-OK, so where did you buy it from?

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-A car-boot sale.

-Car-boot sale? OK, you've got a good eye, haven't you?

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-How long ago was that?

-About two years.

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-Right, and what did you pay, dare I ask?

-£10.

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-£10?

-Mmm.

-Did you think that was good at the time?

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Yeah, I did. I didn't really look.

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I liked the colours, so I got it.

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-Did you know what you were buying?

-I knew it was Doulton. Apart from that, nothing else.

-Right.

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-You're right, the colour is the best thing about it, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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And the shape. It's called Doulton's flambe range

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and it harks back really to Japanese porcelain.

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This very blurred red colour is rather like what the Japanese

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called sang de boeuf - literally ox blood.

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The flambe glaze was first discovered by a chap called Bernard Moore,

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who worked at the Doulton factory

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and I think this particularly shows off the effect well.

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It's almost got this flame-like pattern around the frieze, hasn't it?

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If we turn it up, we can see that flambe's stamped on the bottom.

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You've got the Doulton stamp and then "flambe".

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-It actually says "veined", doesn't it?

-Yeah.

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Which describes it well. What do you think of this pitied effect?

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-It looks like honeycomb.

-Yeah.

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-It gives it a bit of a three-dimensional effect, really.

-It's a nice piece.

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-It was quite expensive to produce, this flambe ware.

-I imagined it was.

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And it was produced by putting very small amounts of copper oxide into the glaze

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and then releasing, in a very controlled environment,

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small amounts of oxygen into the kiln while it was fired.

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-It's still produced by Doulton today. It is a popular range.

-Yes.

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I see a few pieces up and down.

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What about value? You paid £10...

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-Just over 50?

-Just over 50?

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If I'm lucky!

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Well, it's not actually an old piece.

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I wouldn't call it antique.

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This flambe range came in in the earlier 20th century,

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but looking at that piece, I'd probably say it's 1970s in date.

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Because of that it's fairly usual, in fact, it's not a very rare piece.

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-That affects the value. I would think we're gonna be more than your £50.

-Good.

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-I would hope, at auction, we're going to get between 100 and 150 for it.

-That's fine. Great.

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-Lovely.

-That's got to go.

-That's got to go, all right.

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-Let's hope we can shift it for you.

-OK, thank you, Kate.

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Pauline, thank you so much for bringing in a piece of furniture

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you know we don't get a lot of. This is exceptionally smart.

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-It's a little Sheraton work table.

-Sheraton?

-Sheraton, yes.

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Not actually made by his hands, he was the designer.

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Why are you bringing this in and I want to know its history to you?

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My husband's inherited it within the last few months from his aunt.

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-Right.

-She's had it in her family for years.

-A long, long time.

-Yes.

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Obviously, you want to flog it, you don't like it, then?!

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It's beautiful, but we've nowhere to put it.

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I have an ordinary sewing box, I wouldn't use it,

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-and I'd rather have some money.

-OK. It's beautifully proportioned.

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It is what you would expect of Sheraton.

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Earlier part of the 19th century, born in the late-18th century.

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He lightened a lot of Chippendale's designs.

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If you had anything that was overworked or heavy,

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he made thing much more elegant and demure - a slenderness.

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It's very elegant.

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The legs just tell you it's Sheraton straightaway.

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It really is quite defined, isn't it?

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He also worked with lots of veneers and lots of inlays

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and we've got a lovely little shell inlay here which has been burnt off.

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Beautifully done.

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It is made of Cuban mahogany. It's got a lovely, tight, reddish grain.

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-I like the front.

-I do.

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That's a Serpentine front - that's a lot of craftsmanship.

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That's where the value comes in.

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OK. It's got a lovely cross stretcher with a diamond lozenge just to hide the joints.

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It's had a break on that joint. I looked.

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There's a little metal strap which is holding the cross stretcher together.

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Let's look at the interior.

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So you've, basically, not even used this?

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No, I left all that was in, because I didn't know how old the things were.

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-It's got one or two things wrong. I don't think these handles are original.

-Oh?

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No. They're slightly too big.

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-The hinges have been changed.

-Yes. My son said that.

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And you got a little bit of this inlay missing.

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-Do you see the stringing detail?

-Yes.

-That's missing.

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If this was 100% right, I think we'd be looking at 800 to £1,200.

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-Seriously.

-But it's not?

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It's not. I'm gonna put an auction valuation of 300 to £400 on this.

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-That's still very nice.

-Are you happy with that?

-Yes.

-OK, OK. Let's do it, then!

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Alan, this is quite an imposing portrait.

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-It is, yes.

-Some might say she's got quite an intoxicating beauty, really, hasn't she?

-Yes, she has.

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Why have you brought her along today?

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It was me mother's and she's had it for 60 years.

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She bought it from Morton Hall, before it was pulled down, in Burnley.

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She's 90 now, me mother, and in a nursing home.

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She said, "You can do what you want with the painting."

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-That's why I brought it along.

-Don't you want to hold onto her?

-No. She can go, I'm afraid.

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Let someone else have a look at her.

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-You're certainly not intoxicated by the sound of things!

-No.

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Well, let's have a look at the signature,

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because she is signed, isn't she, down the bottom left-hand corner here.

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This is an artist known as Aurelia Della Corte Szvatek.

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We know little about her, actually.

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We can say that she was Italian.

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She was active certainly around 1900-1910.

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And looking at the canvas here, I would certainly say this dates

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from probably circa 1900.

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In Europe, post 1908,

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painting was very much influenced

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by the huge hit Picasso and Braque were having in Paris.

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Enormous influence, which was really the start of Cubism.

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A completely different art style.

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This shows no sign of Cubism, whatsoever.

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In fact, it's very much in a Romantic vein.

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She's very suggestive, really, in the way

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that she's just slightly revealing herself

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and she has her hand held up to her chest.

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The actual style of the painting itself - there's a certain amount of impasto, the oil is built up

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in layers, so it stands up almost in peaks on the canvas.

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It's more suggestive of the Impressionist style,

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late 19th-century, rather than this more modern vein

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that was happening in Europe in the early part of the 20th century.

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We've got signs of mildew or mould growing here. And here.

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And again, there's another patch here.

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That's going to affect the price, just slightly.

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I've looked up this artist and, in fact, the only other pieces

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that are recorded at auction are water colours.

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I know that a pair of water colours, much smaller in size, were sold at auction in about 1990.

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They sold for roughly £1,500.

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I would say at auction, certainly,

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I can see her making between £2,000 and £4,000.

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I would like to put a reserve certainly of 2,000.

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-Yeah, that's fine.

-If two people really want her, it may take it up even further.

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That's fine, yes.

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It's a good price is that.

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-Are you happy with that?

-I'm really happy with that, yes!

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A great range today, from 19th-century furniture,

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through to 20th-century pottery and an unusual set of medical models to intrigue the bidders.

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But it's Alan's painting, which is causing auctioneer

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Anthony Parry some concern at his saleroom in Mold.

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What do you think of this one? This is an oil on canvas,

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A Szvatek, I think that's how you pronouce it.

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Kate has put £2,000 to £4,000 on this oil painting. It's beautifully painted.

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It's put on with a pallet knife and with brush. It's got texture.

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The condition is perfect. The frame is absolutely stunning.

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The whole thing is a bit of a mystery.

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It's shrouded in an enigma.

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There are two A Della Corte Szvatek.

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One was Aurelia and the other was Aranka.

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Is Aurelia a man's name or a lady's name?

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Were they two sisters or was it husband and wife?

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-Could be.

-In 1910, one of them did exhibit in the RA.

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-The Royal Academy. That adds some weight to the value, really.

-There's a bit of quality there.

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We've checked our sales index and there hasn't been any sold in the last few years.

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-The last one was about ten years ago and it only made £500.

-Really?

-Yes.

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If it had come in here, I would only have put £800 to £1,200 on it. I don't know about you.

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£800 to £1,200 is about right, I can see it doing that.

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-I'd love to see it do the £4,000.

-I certainly would.

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I'd love to see Alan's face and see him go home with that sort of money.

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Yes. We've had interest in it, but not that much interest.

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What's your gut feeling?

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-I don't think it'll do it.

-You don't think it'll do it?

-No.

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Well, in a moment, our items are just about to go under the hammer. So watch this space.

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So a mystery wrapped in an enigma. That could unsettle the buyers, but let's keep our fingers crossed.

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First under the hammer is the Doulton flambe vase,

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spotted by eagle-eyed Helen at a car-boot sale.

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-Kate's put a good price on it.

-Yeah.

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-Why did you get it so cheap?

-I dunno, lucky, I guess.

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You're just lucky. You have the gift.

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Well, I wouldn't say that, but...

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I wish I had that sort of luck. Have you been to a car-boot and bought something like that?

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-No, they all know me!

-Yeah, it gets worse, doesn't it?

-They all pop their prices up!

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It's not fair, is it? We'll have to go incognito, in disguise.

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This is it. This is our lot. Good luck, both of you.

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170, a rather nice flambe vase now.

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Another Royal Doulton piece.

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The flambe one... 50, I'm bid. £50...5...55...60...65...70.

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5...80...5.

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90. 90. Five is a catalogue right behind you, sir. 95. 100? £100.

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105...110...

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115, the catalogue. 120.

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125. 125, the lady's winning now.

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130's a fresh bidder.

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135...140...

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145, changes his mind.

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150, sir? 150. Another five?

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-This is good.

-155...160...

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160. All done at £160? Are we finished?

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-Well done.

-Thank you.

-What will you put the money towards?

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-Part of it will go to Macmillan.

-The cancer research?

-Yeah.

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There's a bit missing... Oh, there's a bit missing on me hall table now.

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-Your bit's missing. Helen's bit's missing. What's missing?

-I'm not telling you!

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-Good luck with your bit.

-Thanks. ..Thanks.

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-A pleasure, well done, you.

-What a great result.

-Yes, great.

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I've just been joined by Alan and we've got that oil painting going under the hammer

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with Kate's valuation of £2,000-£4,000.

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We did a bit of background history. It was very vague.

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I'd value that at around £600 to £1,200 and that's what Anthony the auctioneer said.

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This is not putting Kate down at all, because it is relative.

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I hope that sells for £2,000.

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The only research we've got of items that have gone to auction by the artist are only water colours.

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They're works on paper that, generally speaking, make a lot less than oils.

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Those are making £700 to £1,000.

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So going on that basis, something of this quality ought to be in that region.

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I've stuck my neck out on this one. This is the one I'm worried about.

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But Alan has come to me and said, "Look, Kate, how much interest has there been?"

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I said, "Not as much as I'd hoped before the sale, but you never can tell."

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He said, "I don't want to take it home with me."

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What have you done, Alan? Tell me.

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-I've reduced the reserve on it.

-Reserve?

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-To how much?

-To £1,800.

-You've dropped it a couple of hundred quid.

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I... I hope it sells.

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I just hope it sells. I don't think you've dropped it enough.

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I just hope you prove me wrong.

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445...

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is A Delle Corte Szvatek - an oil on canvas.

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-There's been a lot of interest.

-Oh!

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Perhaps it's last-minute interest.

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What shall we say for it? 500, thank you. £500.

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£500, it's a start, isn't it? £500.

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600...700...

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-800.

-We're going in the right direction.

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-We are, aren't we?

-£800.

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£800. 900, is there? £900. £900. £900.

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All finished at £900?

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-Alan, it's going back in the car.

-Going back in the car, yeah.

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-You like it, though?

-Yes, it's a nice painting.

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That's a plus factor. It can go on the wall and you can enjoy it.

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Yeah, I can put it in another sale.

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You know the value, you know it's got nine in the room.

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-When he said there's gonna be lots of interest, I thought...

-I had high hopes then.

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No, we got that one wrong, I think.

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It depends who's here on the day. Give it a rest and you never know.

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Yes, we'll try to get... We'll see what we get for it.

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I still think we ought to get over the thousand for it.

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-Are you ready for this, Pauline?

-Yes.

-So am I, I'm a little nervous.

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We've got £300 to £400 riding on this Sheraton sewing table.

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It's a gorgeous bit of Georgian furniture.

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Everyone's saying right now, there's never a better time to buy brown furniture for an investment.

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He says, fingers crossed.

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What shall we say for the inlaid mahogany sewing table?

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Pretty little cabinet.

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£100, I'm bid. £100...125...150...

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175...200...225...

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250. 250.

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260.

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270...280... 290, is it?

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290's over there. Five?

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295, thank you. 295...300...

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Can I squeeze another fiver out of you? No.

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£300 is this side. All done at £300?

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-Are we quite sure at £300?

-GAVEL BANGS

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-A little bit of pressure.

-There was. It was slow at the beginning.

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What will you do with the £300?

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We've three children. We'll share it with them.

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-Oh, that's easy to divvy up, isn't it?

-It is.

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Thank you very much for bringing furniture in, because it makes my day.

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-I love talking about it.

-You do. It was obvious that.

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I've waited a long time for this moment, a good three or four weeks.

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The most unusual lot I've seen on Flog It! in four years.

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It's Bernadette's 49 medical parts.

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You've got to laugh at that, surely!

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-You salvaged these.

-Yes, I did.

-From a skip.

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I know Philip has done a great valuation.

0:20:210:20:24

-80 to 120.

-The auctioneer's friend.

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The auctioneer's friend, which we both agreed with,

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because we've not seen anything like it.

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Hats off to you, Philip, cos it's a brilliant choice to pick.

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It's so unusual. He's stuck his neck out.

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The thing is, if Anthony's got them on the internet

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-and contacted specialists, they'll make their money.

-There's a phoneline booked.

-Excellent.

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Which means someone's serious, so we just need one other person.

0:20:450:20:49

Well, what do you say about these things?

0:20:490:20:51

Good gracious me! A collection of 49

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various painted plaster of Paris models of anatomical parts.

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I think we've got the life-cycle of the tadpoles and the frog.

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We've certainly got two that look very much like ET.

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LAUGHTER

0:21:080:21:10

-I'm lost for words.

-Yeah, I bet he is.

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£20 I've got to start.

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£20...30. £30...£40...£50...

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£60.

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-£65...70...

-In the room now.

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Five. 80?

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£80...85...90...95...

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100...110...

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120.

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125.

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130. Five.

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140. Five.

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150...155...

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160. Five.

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170.

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Five. 180.

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185, thank you. 185. 190?

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190. Have five. 195? 195?

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Yep. 195.

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200.

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Anybody else? Missed no-one?

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-Come on, Martin, 210.

-AUDIENCE GASPS

0:22:160:22:20

210...220...230....

0:22:210:22:25

240. No, that'll do. 240 over here.

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Can we persuade anyone else to put them on the mantelpiece?

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-All done at 240, then?

-GAVEL BANGS

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-240 quid! That's so good, isn't it?

-Yeah, thank you.

0:22:350:22:40

Well above top end. Good diagnosis from Dr Lot here.

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It's great when you see things like this, isn't it?

0:22:440:22:47

That's what makes the programme - when you have a good bit of fun.

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Yeah. It's so unusual and we want to see more stuff like this.

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If you've got stuff like that, bring it in to one of our valuation days.

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Details of the venues you can find on the website.

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Just click onto the website. We'll see you there.

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I'm here at St Giles Parish Church, the largest in Wales.

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Throughout its history, it's always been a centre for music with a very fine choir,

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a superb organ and a particularly fine set of bells.

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For centuries, the sound of church bells has been evocative of a very British way of life.

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Whether calling the faithful to worship, celebrating victories at sea or lamenting somebody's death.

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There's around 5000 towers in this country, each containing five or more bells.

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Each week they're run by a dedicated band of enthusiastic volunteers.

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There's around 50,000 bell-ringers in this country,

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whose full impact was heard recently at the dawning of our new millennium.

0:24:070:24:11

All ready? Treble's going.

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She's gone.

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BELLS RING

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Three treble.

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It's only in Britain that bells of different sizes and tones are rung

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in sequence to produce structured music known as change ringing.

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Although it's a highly complex art form,

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bell-ringing can be engaged at different levels.

0:24:370:24:40

-To talk me through the ropes is tower captain and head bell ringer, David Spalding. Hi, David.

-Hello.

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Before we start, how did you get involved in bell-ringing and how long have you been doing it?

0:24:460:24:51

Well, I started about 15 years ago.

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My eldest daughter went to wanted to learn to ring and I came along to keep her company

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and got called in and enjoyed it ever since.

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-Do you have to have an aptitude for it?

-I don't think so.

0:25:000:25:04

I think you have to be prepared to learn

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and I think you have to be prepared to practice but that said, most people can ring.

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It usually takes a few months to learn to ring reasonably competently...

0:25:110:25:15

-With practice.

-OK. One final question, what chance have I got?

0:25:150:25:19

-I'd really like to have a go. Could I?

-Certainly.

0:25:190:25:22

Right, when we start with a new ringer, the first thing

0:25:250:25:31

-is I have to instruct them to let go when I say so.

-OK.

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There are two parts to bell-ringing.

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One is called hand stroke, which is where we pull on the sally.

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The other is called tail stroke, where we pull on the tail.

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We'll start with you pulling the sally, but you must remember to let go when I say so.

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-OK.

-The first thing is reach up, don't pull it yet.

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Pull and let go now. That's it.

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Whoops, don't catch it.

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You pull very hard.

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-Strong.

-Yes.

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-So not too hard.

-It's finesse really.

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Wait. Now bring your hands up.

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Got it. It's catching it.

0:26:110:26:13

-Did you feel you can pull that?

-I can do it now. Watch.

-Go up. You got it?

0:26:130:26:17

Yeah.

0:26:170:26:18

Catch and pull. Let go. That's it.

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And catch, pull and let go.

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Right, let me take it. I'm gonna stand it this time.

0:26:260:26:30

RINGING STOPS

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-Now, that's hand stroke, so do you want to have a go at the tail stroke?

-Yes.

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With this one, you hang on to the rope

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-and I'll look after this bit.

-OK.

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What will happen with the tail stroke is that we'll start off with me pulling the sally,

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so the rope will go up and you'll have to bring your arms up with the tail.

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-Then pull...

-Then pull down. Not too hard.

-No.

0:26:550:26:57

-That will bring the rest of the rope inside down. Are you ready?

-Yeah.

0:26:570:27:01

-It doesn't matter if you make a mess of it. Are you ready?

-Yep.

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Here it goes. Don't forget to let you get arm go up with the rope.

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Off she goes. And pull.

0:27:100:27:12

Not too hard. That's it.

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Let it pull your hand up, because your hand is going up before the rope is going up.

0:27:140:27:18

Now pull.

0:27:200:27:22

-Here she comes.

-Yeah.

0:27:220:27:26

-It keeps you fit, this, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

0:27:270:27:30

The art of bell-ringing is when we change the position of the bells as we're ringing,

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sometimes we have to let the bell go all the way up.

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Or you cut them short.

0:27:380:27:41

'If you think that looks tricky, try putting the two together.'

0:27:420:27:46

First of all you need to take the tail in your left hand.

0:27:460:27:50

Then reach up onto the sally with your left hand, put your right hand above it.

0:27:510:27:57

This time, when you pull, remember you let go of the sally, but you don't let go of the tail.

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-OK. Down.

-Let go.

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Both hands up. Here she comes. Both hands. That's it.

0:28:050:28:09

-Let go. Good.

-Got it.

-Bit scary, but it's good.

0:28:100:28:15

All right?

0:28:210:28:23

-You do feel like there is a really

-big responsibility resting on your shoulders by doing this.

0:28:230:28:28

-You do. If you look up, it's actually...

-It's worse.

0:28:280:28:31

It's worse, yeah.

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Away you go.

0:28:330:28:36

You're doing it.

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And pull.

0:28:370:28:39

-Fantastic.

-Brilliant.

0:28:410:28:43

I've got it.

0:28:430:28:45

David is certainly a great teacher and here in Wrexham,

0:28:540:28:58

the bells themselves are valuable antiques in their own right.

0:28:580:29:01

I had to come up to the bell tower to take a look at these bells.

0:29:010:29:05

They're huge and LOUD! Thank goodness they've stopped ringing!

0:29:050:29:09

They were cast in Gloucester in 1726 by Britain's foremost bell caster, Abraham Rudhall.

0:29:090:29:14

He's as good as you're going to get, believe me.

0:29:140:29:17

It's really rare to see five of his bells in any one church.

0:29:170:29:20

Wrexham, well, they've got ten of them!

0:29:200:29:22

Of course the best way to hear the bells ring is on the outside of the church

0:29:290:29:33

and not on the inside,

0:29:330:29:35

so I'm going to leave you in the comfortable hands of David Spalding and the St Giles ringers.

0:29:350:29:40

BELLS RING

0:29:400:29:42

And they're still queuing up for us at the valuation day. So it's time to get back to the tables.

0:29:500:29:56

-Betty, how are you?

-I'm fine.

-Fine.

0:30:030:30:06

-Tell me about this.

-It was given to me by my aunt,

0:30:060:30:10

about six years ago. I'd always liked it as a child,

0:30:100:30:14

so she said, "Before anything happens to me, I'll give it to you now,"

0:30:140:30:18

and that's why I have it. But my two sons don't like it.

0:30:180:30:22

-But you like it.

-I like it.

-What do you reckon, Neville?

0:30:220:30:25

-I reckon we'd enjoy the money more.

-The money!

0:30:250:30:28

Right, so what is it?

0:30:280:30:30

-It's a clock.

-Where's it come from?

0:30:300:30:32

-France.

-How do you know that?

-I was told.

0:30:320:30:36

And it was on the back of the clock.

0:30:360:30:39

"Le Roy et Fils" it's got written on the back,

0:30:390:30:42

who were good French clockmakers. I reckon it's probably about...18...

0:30:420:30:48

1860, 1880.

0:30:480:30:51

It hasn't got a glass dial on the front, has it?

0:30:510:30:54

-Never had.

-Why's that?

-No idea.

-I'll tell you what I think.

0:30:540:30:57

I don't think this has ever had a glass dial,

0:30:570:31:01

but what it would have done is probably sat under a glass dome,

0:31:010:31:04

which has probably been broken.

0:31:040:31:07

This would have been raised slightly off the ground, on a wooden plinth.

0:31:070:31:10

-Yeah.

-And I also think that, either side of this,

0:31:100:31:14

would have been two candelabra or...

0:31:140:31:18

um, vases, and it would have been a clock garniture.

0:31:180:31:22

That's all I ever remember is this. Nothing else.

0:31:220:31:25

It's quite nice.

0:31:250:31:28

You've got these little panels...

0:31:280:31:32

and that's repeated with a figure down here. In my opinion,

0:31:320:31:36

it's one of those things that looks more valuable than it is. It looks quite expensive.

0:31:360:31:42

I think an estimate on this would probably be in the £300-400 region.

0:31:420:31:45

And we'd put a reserve on it of £250.

0:31:450:31:49

-Are you happy with that?

-Fine, yes.

0:31:490:31:52

Are you going to get the money or are the kids?

0:31:520:31:54

-I'm going to get it.

-What will you do with that?

0:31:540:31:57

Probably towards a holiday.

0:31:570:31:59

-Are you being left out or are you going to take him on holiday?

-She'll take me.

0:31:590:32:02

You'll take him. Every cloud's got a silver lining.

0:32:020:32:07

Things are looking up.

0:32:070:32:08

-We do everything together.

-I'm very pleased to hear it.

0:32:080:32:11

-I hope it gets sold otherwise you won't have a holiday.

-No.

0:32:110:32:15

Fingers crossed.

0:32:150:32:17

Oh, look at these. These look a little bit of fun.

0:32:280:32:30

Let's have a look.

0:32:300:32:31

Do you like them?

0:32:310:32:34

-No!

-That's why you're here flogging them, is it?

0:32:340:32:37

I think they're worth 60 to £80 of anybody's money.

0:32:370:32:39

Right, thank you.

0:32:390:32:41

-Each!

-Each?

0:32:410:32:43

It's not often we have twins on the show.

0:32:480:32:50

Pretty identical twins as well.

0:32:500:32:53

So I don't get you muddled up, we've got Jill and Jackie.

0:32:530:32:57

-That's the right way round, isn't it?

-Yes.

-Got it.

0:32:570:33:00

You've brought really different things in.

0:33:000:33:02

Tell me about this lovely little pendant.

0:33:020:33:05

My mother gave it to me many years ago.

0:33:050:33:08

I think it's a beautiful piece of art really.

0:33:080:33:12

If we hold it up carefully, we can see that it's painted on ivory,

0:33:120:33:16

a portrait of a young girl -

0:33:160:33:18

a very commercial subject as opposed to an older lady or a gent.

0:33:180:33:21

Then it's covered in a rock crystal -

0:33:210:33:24

rock crystal being very hard to protect it,

0:33:240:33:27

in a gold surround and, I would say, the late part of the 19th century.

0:33:270:33:32

-It's got no marks on it, has it?

-No.

0:33:320:33:34

And no signature, but the quality of the painting is lovely.

0:33:340:33:38

Yeah, it's very pretty.

0:33:380:33:39

It's a real collector's piece. I would think realistically

0:33:390:33:44

-we're looking at 100, 150.

-Oh, wow!

0:33:440:33:46

I'd certainly say the top end of that.

0:33:460:33:48

-So this was from your mother?

-Yes, it was.

0:33:480:33:51

-And you've got something very different.

-Indeed I have.

0:33:510:33:54

-Is this from your mother as well?

-Yes.

0:33:540:33:56

This is my Belleek. My mother, Irish and so I wanted to collect something

0:33:560:34:01

and she recommended that I collected the Irish Belleek.

0:34:010:34:05

Belleek is commercial both in Ireland and in the UK at auction.

0:34:050:34:12

What we can see here is an example of what they specialised in -

0:34:120:34:17

these beautiful open-work baskets.

0:34:170:34:20

The Belleek factory specialised in Parian, but also this very thin-bodied porcelain.

0:34:200:34:27

It's so light, isn't it?

0:34:270:34:29

Particularly this one. Very fine work.

0:34:290:34:31

What do you know about Belleek? You must know a little.

0:34:310:34:35

I think I realised this is what they call a two-strand basket, so this one may be the rarer of the two.

0:34:350:34:41

That's right, because if we look very closely,

0:34:410:34:43

this is not only two strand in the base, but also twisted.

0:34:430:34:48

-Yes, all the way round.

-And we've got this really quite dense

0:34:480:34:52

encrusted border of what looks like convolvulus plant.

0:34:520:34:57

-And so light and fine.

-Perfect condition, even the little round strands.

-Even the twirly bits.

0:34:570:35:03

-You've obviously kept it very carefully.

-In a cabinet, yes.

0:35:030:35:07

What about this one? Let's have a close look at this one.

0:35:070:35:11

-The larger of the two.

-This one, I notice has the three-strand...

-Yeah.

0:35:110:35:17

..woven basketwork in the bottom. Slightly heavier and larger.

0:35:170:35:21

Not quite as fine work. We've got beautiful lily of the valley on this one.

0:35:210:35:25

What about value? What did you pay for them?

0:35:250:35:28

I think it was round about £100 each.

0:35:280:35:31

Right and that was how long ago?

0:35:310:35:33

Just over 20 years.

0:35:330:35:35

I would say...

0:35:350:35:37

this one, although the larger of the two,

0:35:370:35:39

is going to be of slightly less value,

0:35:390:35:43

I would suggest 2 to 300 for this one at auction.

0:35:430:35:47

But this one I would hope would certainly make 300

0:35:470:35:51

and I'd put an estimate of 3 to 400 on it.

0:35:510:35:54

This is particularly fine and the twisted work is rarer.

0:35:540:35:59

I think that's realistic.

0:35:590:36:02

So why do you want to sell them, Jackie?

0:36:020:36:05

We're... I'm going to get a new puppy and with this in the house,

0:36:050:36:09

very vulnerable. I'll sell these and buy the new puppy.

0:36:090:36:15

OK, what kind of puppy are you looking for?

0:36:150:36:17

-A setter.

-Oh, lovely.

-Jill has one already.

0:36:170:36:20

-So you have dogs to match as well.

-I've never thought of that.

-No.

0:36:200:36:23

So it's back to the auction, where we're taking

0:36:270:36:30

Betty and Neville's French Gothic clock.

0:36:300:36:32

And our twins, Jackie and Jill, have given us a pair of Belleek baskets

0:36:320:36:36

and a rock crystal pendant.

0:36:360:36:38

They'll be replaced by a little four-legged friend.

0:36:380:36:41

Time's up. It's now time to flog that French timepiece

0:36:430:36:46

belonging to Betty and Neville.

0:36:460:36:48

What are we hoping for?

0:36:480:36:50

-300?

-Plus.

-400, well, let's hope we do get that sort of top end.

0:36:500:36:55

If you want a French timepiece of quality

0:36:550:36:58

then clock this because it's definitely for you.

0:36:580:37:00

It's wonderful but why are you flogging it?

0:37:000:37:03

-It's working still, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:37:030:37:06

We tested it out earlier.

0:37:060:37:08

You just want to get rid of it.

0:37:080:37:10

-It really doesn't go with...

-The decor.

0:37:100:37:14

We've got more of a modern house and it's come from a cottage.

0:37:140:37:17

Let's hope it does get the top end, Philip.

0:37:170:37:20

It's a good decorative thing. It will grace someone's drawing room.

0:37:200:37:24

I hope the bidders are here today. Fingers crossed.

0:37:240:37:27

365, nice little clock now.

0:37:270:37:30

£100, 100, 25...

0:37:300:37:33

150...150...

0:37:330:37:35

The clock, 150, what's the matter with that?

0:37:350:37:37

150, 175...

0:37:370:37:39

200, 200...

0:37:390:37:41

Any more? 210...

0:37:410:37:43

220, 230...

0:37:430:37:46

240, 250... Squeeze a tenner out of you.

0:37:460:37:50

250's close to me.

0:37:500:37:51

All done at £250, then.

0:37:510:37:54

-Dead on 250.

-That's it. Dead on.

0:37:540:37:58

A bit of luck there.

0:37:580:38:01

Didn't it freeze up for a second, then all of a sudden...

0:38:010:38:04

Four bids in a row, and we got £250.

0:38:040:38:06

-It's gone. The memories are still there, though.

-Oh, yes.

0:38:060:38:10

-Can't flog those, can you?

-We've got photos.

-Yes.

0:38:100:38:13

It's now Jill's turn. We've got that lovely pendant going under the hammer.

0:38:190:38:23

Painted on ivory, portrait of a girl. It's absolutely stunning.

0:38:230:38:27

Kate has put a value of £100-150 on it.

0:38:270:38:30

-How long's this been in the family?

-Not long. About ten years.

0:38:300:38:34

-Why are you flogging it?

-Well, I like to wear more chunky jewellery.

0:38:340:38:39

That does suit you - that really does look lovely. Let's see if we get the top end of the estimate.

0:38:390:38:44

I think we'll get 100. To make a little bit more money,

0:38:440:38:48

you need a signature on there of one of the fine miniaturists.

0:38:480:38:51

But it's a commercial subject. It's not an old lady or a gent,

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-it's a young girl.

-I didn't realise it was ivory.

-Yes.

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A lot of portraits were painted on ivory, little miniatures.

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This is a nice lot. 50 I'm bid. 50.

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£50. 60, 70,

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80, 90, 100. £100.

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And 10 for you. 120.

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5, Mr Cooper? ..120 there, then.

0:39:120:39:16

Anybody else? All done at 120?

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-Bang on with the estimate.

-Well done! Thank you.

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120 quid! I think you're the second pair of twins we've had

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-on the show.

-There we are!

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And there's more to come for Jackie and Jill.

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Great item - the most amazing Belleek I've seen for a long time.

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-Kate, our expert - another gorgeous lady with us...

-You're surrounded by us!

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-Cracking bits of Belleek.

-They are superb.

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-The quality is there.

-Lovely items. They're whiteware items. They're not coloured at all.

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And they're not the nautical, shell motif that you often get in Belleek.

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-With the scallops.

-Yes. We've just got flower decoration here.

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-Very fine work. And the condition is fantastic.

-It's unbelievable.

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We've got two lots. The first is £300-400.

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Lovely latticework weaving on that. The second - again, with the same sort of weaving -

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-£200-300. That's a lot of money.

-It is.

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Did you ever get confused by your mum or your mum's friends?

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We got more confused, because we thought we were called This and That.

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-Is that what your mum called you, as a nickname?

-When we were tiny,

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Mum used to say, "You feed this one, and I'll feed that one."

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And for years, we thought we were called This and That!

0:40:330:40:36

That's brilliant! That is brilliant. This is it - this is your lot. Good luck, This and That!

0:40:360:40:42

This is rather nice. Porcelain basket.

0:40:420:40:44

100 I'm bid. £100. £100.

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120, 140, 160, 180...

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-They like it.

-180, 200... £200.

0:40:510:40:54

220, 240, 260,

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280, 300. £300.

0:40:570:41:01

310. 20 for anyone? All done at 310, then?

0:41:010:41:06

He's sold it. £310. No messing about there.

0:41:060:41:10

Next one now.

0:41:100:41:11

220, another nice piece of Belleek.

0:41:110:41:14

A larger basket this time. 100 I'm bid. £100.

0:41:140:41:17

100, 100. And 10,

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120, 130, 140,

0:41:200:41:22

150, 160, 170, 180,

0:41:220:41:26

190, 200...

0:41:260:41:28

210, 220, 230,

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240, 250, 260,

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270, 280...

0:41:350:41:38

290, 300...

0:41:380:41:41

-Oh, they like this one.

-That's better.

-320.

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330...

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340...350...

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-360.

-Looking promising now.

-370...

0:41:490:41:52

-380, still with the catalogue. 390, 400...

-Oh, wow!

0:41:520:41:57

410, 420 at the back,

0:41:570:42:01

430... 430. 440, sir?

0:42:010:42:04

440. 450?

0:42:060:42:09

450.

0:42:090:42:10

450. 450. Any more than 450, then?

0:42:100:42:14

Are we finished?

0:42:140:42:16

-Hammer's gone down. £450!

-Well done! Very good!

0:42:160:42:20

What a good result!

0:42:200:42:23

-That WAS the one they wanted. It was the rarer one.

-I got it the wrong way round.

0:42:230:42:28

-It doesn't matter!

-It just goes to show that the first one, which was much finer work,

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but that second one - a larger piece, not quite so fine -

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had that rarer three-strand weave in it, and that's what they liked.

0:42:370:42:42

-That's what the collectors wanted.

-Very good.

-Good for you, for collecting them.

0:42:420:42:46

I'll look for some more! Thank you.

0:42:460:42:49

Lovely.

0:42:490:42:50

The bells really rang out for us today - only one no-sale, and that was Andrew's oil painting.

0:42:570:43:02

But at least he knows its real value now.

0:43:020:43:05

As you can see, all the lucky bidders are queuing up and paying for their lots.

0:43:050:43:09

What caught their interest today was Bernadette's medical parts, nearly doubling its original estimate.

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Can't be bad! Unfortunately, that's all we've got time for.

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It's time to sally forth to our next location,

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and I hope you can join me there. See you next time on Flog It!

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