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I'm in a small town with a lot of attitude, like the president of its football club, Elton John.

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It's a small town with a massive heart and a huge, big queue.

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Today I'm in Watford.

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Elton John's been associated with Watford FC for more than 30 years

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and there's still a great bond between him and the town,

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but we've got our own Rocket Man, expert Mark Stacey,

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and the beautiful Candle In The Wind, Catherine Southon,

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who'll help me sort through this massive queue today.

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We really have our work cut out, so let's get on with it.

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# Like a lusty flower

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# Running through the grass for hours

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# Rolling through the hay, oh

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# Like a puppy

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# Like a puppy child... #

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-Good morning, Bertie.

-Good morning, sir.

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Now, I love this claret jug. Can you fill us in on the history of it?

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Well, I had it left by a very dear friend of mine

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who died a few years ago,

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and I think it had been in the family for quite a number of years.

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When I received it, it was pretty well blackened - you could hardly realise what it looked like.

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But I worked on it hard, and that is the result of what you see today.

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So you spent a lot of time polishing all this silver up to get the detail out.

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Yes, I'm very interested in all this kind of thing and...

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Are you a claret drinker yourself?

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-Reasonably.

-You like a drop of claret?

-Yes, I do.

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Well, it is lovely, and I think if we look at the piece,

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we've got this lovely cut-glass base with these rather nice little sort of panels of birds and flowers.

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-I see.

-That's the first indication that it's very Victorian.

-Hm.

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We've got a hallmark here,

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which shows that all these pieces on here are silver,

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and the hallmark is for London, 1883.

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-1883.

-So it's well over 120 years old.

-Yes.

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What I like, if we look closely, Bertie,

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we've got these lovely little panels here with the diamond band there,

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and a space here to put your initials or family crest on

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and this rather nice metalwork handle here with the nice scroll.

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And as we turn it around, when we come to the lip of the jug,

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we've got this rather nice mask head going across the top there.

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And it's a lovely-looking piece. And what made you come and see us today?

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I've been watching your shows, and I was rather interested, and then I heard somebody

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-telling me that it was coming to Watford, so...I thought about bringing it along.

-Fantastic.

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I'm glad you did, because it is a very commercial piece.

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If we were putting this into auction, I think we'd put it in with a sensible estimate

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of something like...£600-£800 with a £600 reserve

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and let those claret drinkers out there have a bit of a fight for it.

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And we'd certainly make between those two figures

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-and maybe even a little bit more on a good day.

-Yes.

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Now, would you be happy for us to do that?

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Yes, I think I would, yes, because I'm 84 now...

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Gosh, you don't look it, Bertie.

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My years are coming to an end, and I'm not married,

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so I've got no-one to leave it to, really, only my brother,

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but, um...I don't think he would be interested

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in the claret side of it quite so much.

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-Thank you for leaving it with us. I look forward to seeing you at the auction.

-Yes.

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Let's hope we'll raise a glass afterwards and toast the success.

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-Good idea, I'll take you up on that.

-Thank you, Bertie.

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Lourdes, this is fabulous, absolutely beautiful,

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it really jumped out at me in the crowd.

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So where did you get this beautiful vase?

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I inherited this about 11 years ago from a friend of mine.

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-Right, lucky you.

-Yes.

-Now, when I first saw you, you said, "This is a piece of Moorcroft that I've got,"

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but it is actually Morrisware.

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Now, the reason we know that, if we just turn it over...

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we can see on the bottom, it's actually stamped here Morrisware,

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which is a type of style that was done by Hancock and Sons.

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Now, Hancock and Sons were founded in the late 19th century,

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but this particular piece would date to probably early 20th century, so sort of 1910, something like that.

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If you can see there, that's the signature of the designer,

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which was George Cartlidge.

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It is a really beautiful piece, I just love the colours.

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Wonderful stylised tulip design.

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It's very much in keeping with Arts and Crafts, and William Morris.

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-Why do you want to sell this lovely item?

-I don't want to break it

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because I'm going away to settle down.

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-Where are you going to?

-I'm going to Sri Lanka.

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-Not something you want to take with you?

-No.

-It can break very easily.

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Have you any idea how much it's worth?

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Well, maybe £300.

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I would say I'd probably put an estimate on of about £300-400, but I really hope

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there's a lot of people like me in the crowd at the auction

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that go mad for it and it makes a lot more. You want to sell it?

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-I do, yes.

-So I think we should probably put a reserve on of about 250, how does that sound to you?

-OK.

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-All right?

-Yes.

-Let's put 250 on.

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-I hope they illustrate it in the catalogue, and I really hope it runs away.

-OK.

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-Good luck.

-Thank you.

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Grant and Sarah, thanks for bringing the piece of furniture in today.

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It's made my day, anyway. It's very important to you, this piece.

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-It's been in your family a long time?

-Yes, it has.

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It...got given to my nan, and then my nan passed down to my dad, and my dad gave it to me and Grant.

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It was for our house, but we don't have a house yet, so hopefully the money will go towards the wedding.

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-So that's gonna get you down the aisle?

-Yeah.

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I've heard a lot of reasons why people want to get rid of antiques. That must be the best.

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It's an occasional tea table, did you know?

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No, we thought it was a card table.

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Very much like a card table, but a card table would have baize inside as you open this the leaf up,

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which I can show you now, because it's got a lovely gate-leg action.

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The two back legs swing back, and if I open this up,

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you can see...now you've got an occasional tea table for four people.

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It's a really functional, practical piece of kit. It would have been built for...

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let's say the town houses, where space was slightly smaller

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and you needed to bring something out when you had a few guests in.

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Right, the construction of the table.

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The legs are all turned in solid Cuban mahogany.

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And they're beautifully turned with this decorative spiral,

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but the construction of the table is made out of a softwood. It's a pitch pine.

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So all the mahogany you see, all the satinwood and all the ebony,

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which is here, is just a veneer

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which has been glued to the softwood, which is very common,

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because pitch pine was plentiful, and it's a cheap wood.

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This has all been imported, the hardwoods.

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It's quite expensive, so rather than use it in the solid form,

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they cut it down and used it in very fine sheets, in a veneer form.

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And here we've got ebony, here you have a satinwood,

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and here you have two mahogany leaves.

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I mean, it is, in fact, a very tidy and practical piece of kit.

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-OK, value.

-Yeah.

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Well...I think this should sell for around about £500-600.

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Brilliant. We're raising money for the church. It'll cost us about £600 to pay for the church,

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so if we sell the table, job done.

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If somebody only bids £550, would you be willing to take that?

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-I think we'd be willing to take that.

-Yeah?

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-OK, we'll put a fixed reserve of £550 on this.

-OK, then.

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-Hopefully we'll get the £700 mark.

-Brilliant!

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It's freezing!

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Sue, thank you for bringing along this rather attractive meat dish.

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Where did you get it from?

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My aunt died last year, and we had to clear out her bungalow,

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and we found it hidden away in the back of the loft.

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We thought it was slightly unusual, so we thought

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-we'd bring it here.

-What did you think was unusual?

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-Well, the fact that it had got a rather deep dip there.

-Right.

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It's called a well and tree dish, rather than just meat dish,

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because we've got this little well and all these indentations

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which is where your juices would run down from the meat

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and then all collect in this well at the bottom.

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Making me feel a bit hungry, just thinking about that!

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It's a very typical pattern.

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It's a copy of a Spode pattern called the Italian pattern, which they did in around 1818,

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but I think this is probably later.

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It's gonna be circa 1830, something like that.

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-Quite old.

-It is quite attractive, with these wonderful blues here.

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The Spode would have been a lot paler, but this is a lot deeper,

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the colours here are a lot deeper. Probably made in Staffordshire.

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But it is an attractive piece. It needs to be hung on a wall.

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-It's got the things on it.

-Not to be put in the back of a loft.

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It's rather too big for me, I think.

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It doesn't go with a modern house, I felt.

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-So you've never used it for your Sunday roast?

-No, no, no.

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Why are you wanting to sell something like this?

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Well, it's part of an inheritance several of us have got to share,

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so we'll sell it and share the money out, I think.

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-Have you any idea how much it would be worth at auction?

-Not a clue.

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It's not going to be a huge amount of money.

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It is a very common pattern.

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I would say it would be worth something in the region of £60-80,

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-with a reserve of 50, and if it makes more, then we'll be happy.

-Yeah, that's brilliant.

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This type of traditional pottery is still popular with the bidders,

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so let's get it straight off to the auction room, along with the more modern Morrisware vase,

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Bertie's claret jug and the stunning tea table,

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which should set wedding bells ringing for Sarah and Grant.

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Doing the honours today at Tring Market Auctions is auctioneer

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Stephen Hearn, and I can't wait to find out what he's got to say.

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This is an interesting lot. It belongs to Lourdes.

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A bit of Morrisware, early 20th century, sort of 1910, somewhere around there.

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£300-400, and it's in really good condition.

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Yes, it's a great example.

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Good piece of Hancock and Son, becoming even more popular.

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-It's been popular for a number of years.

-It is lovely.

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-It is a lovely piece.

-Is that the sort of thing you'd like to own?

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I would, yes, I think it is.

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-It's big and bold.

-And that's what everyone wants nowadays.

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-That's what they're looking for, and not only here - it's a big seller in the States.

-Is it?

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-Could you see this going to America?

-I certainly could, yes.

-Is that a grin on your face?

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-Does that mean there's interest from the States?

-There is interest from all over.

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-So we've got global warming!

-Global warming on the very big piece.

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So what do you think, then?

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-Double estimate.

-Double?

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Six to eight.

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-And that's going overseas.

-I think there's a fair chance it will, yes.

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He's being bold about something, very bold.

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Who says we never dress up on Flog It?

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Just look at Bertie, look at that!

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That is fantastic, you put me to shame.

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-Doesn't he look smart?

-Incredibly smart, and he did on valuation day as well, you know, Paul.

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-You need to smarten yourself up a bit.

-I know, I'm a bit scruffy, ragged around the edges.

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What a claret jug, though.

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It is a nice one, isn't it?

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Why are you flogging it? It's too good to... It's too good to flog.

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I'm 84 now, I'm a bachelor.

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I haven't got any children, so I've got no-one to leave it to.

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Now, one of my researchers told me you were in a movie.

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Oh, yes, I was, but how did you know that?

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Ah, see, our BBC researchers, they're good at their job.

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-What was the movie?

-In Which We Serve.

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And who was in that?

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-John Mills...

-John Mills, wow.

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-Noel Coward.

-Noel Coward?

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Yes, Noel Coward.

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-He's mixing with all the big stars, aren't you?

-Only the best, you know.

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Did you get an Oscar?

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Oh, and I was dressed up as a German officer and things like that,

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but I think I said one word, and that was, "Fire the gun,"

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or something, but that was about all.

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Wonderful, what an experience.

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-Yeah, rather nice.

-You've loved this claret jug, cos you've polished it a lot.

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Yes, I've got feelings for it.

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I think this is going to do the top end plus - it's quality.

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It's very good quality, and I would love it to do the top end.

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I would love it to make about 1,000, actually, but, you know, we'll see.

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What about this one? Victorian and etched 1883.

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Are we going to start at £500 for it?

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500? 400? Yes, at 400, we are there.

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400 I am bid, then. 450 I'm bid, at 450.

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500, at 500 bid.

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At 500...and 50, at 550.

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At 550... At 550, 600 we're bid.

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At 600 we're bid now. At 650 bid, at 650...

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At 650...and seven now.

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At seven bid for it. At 750, is it?

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At 750... At 750 I'm bid, 750.

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780 now, 780.

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-Good, steady...

-780.

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At 780... At 780...

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Surely one more... 800, there you go.

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At 800 I'm bid for it now.

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I'm feeling nervous for Bertie.

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820, I'm bid, 820... And 50?

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Are you finished?

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At 820, you're all out down here?

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I'm selling away from you. It's sold, then. I'm selling for £820.

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-Happy?

-Yes, very happy.

-Oh, lovely.

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I hope somebody appreciates it.

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-I'm pretty sure they will.

-Yes.

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-I'm pretty sure they will.

-Yes.

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-It's been loved by you, and it'll be loved by them as well.

-Thank you.

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Sue's Staffordshire meat dish is under the hammer now.

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This was retrieved from the corner of a very dark loft.

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-Absolutely.

-How long had it been stuffed up there?

-Forever, I think!

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-It's a whopper, isn't it?

-It is, you'd need a large piece of meat on there.

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A hell of a big bit. We're looking for £60-80, I think we're gonna get that.

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Hmm, it might be a bit difficult, but you should be all right.

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-Oh, Catherine, come on, think positive!

-I know, I know.

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-We don't want to put it back in the loft.

-Definitely not.

-It's going under the hammer.

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Now we've got this little Italian pattern meat dish with the well.

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I think we ought to get £70 for it.

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50, then, to start? Shall we do 30?

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-We're happy with that.

-..40 I'm bid, then.

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45, your turn at 50.

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-Blue and white has taken a bit of a duck right now.

-Has it?

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At 70 we're bid, at £70...

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Are we stopping? At £70...

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-Well, that's good.

-No more?

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At 70, then, I'm selling, for £70.

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Fantastic, the hammer's gone down.

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-He started at 70, and we've ended on 70, mid-estimate.

-Very good.

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What's that 70 quid going towards?

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I've got to share it with the family, so it'll be a curry, I think.

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Sarah and Grant have been looking forward to this moment for the last four weeks.

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It's now auction time.

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-Feeling a bit nervous?

-Very.

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Yeah, so am I, I put the valuation on this.

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It's a lovely bit of brown furniture, as we call it in the trade, but it's a gorgeous Scottish occasional table.

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-We need this money for the wedding.

-Pay for the church.

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-£600 will pay for the church, won't it?

-Yes, it will.

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Let's hope we can get a bit more.

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It's going under the hammer now.

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Cross-banded mahogany fold-over card table,

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possibly Scottish table, and a nice one too.

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What about 600 for it? 600, 500, 300 bid for it.

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At 300 we're bid for that little table, at 300 we're bid for it.

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At 320 I'm bid for it, 350 bid?

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380 bid, yes, at 380. 400? At 400 bid...

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Oh, come on, I'm so nervous.

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At 450 bid for it. Yes? 480 I'm bid for it. 500?

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500 I'm bid for it.

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520 we've got bid for it.

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At 550, and 80 is it? No more?

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-At 550, then... At £550.

-HAMMER

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-Oh...so close. We did it, didn't we?

-Well, it's gone.

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It's gone. Not the top end,

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but we've sold it. That will help.

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That will help immensely.

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-Good luck on the big day and congratulations.

-Thank you.

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Forget Moorcroft, you should buy this one. If you're not in the room right now, it's too late.

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We're flogging a little bit of Morrisware that belongs to Lourdes.

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I had a word with the auctioneer earlier.

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He thinks this might be the little surprise of the whole day.

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We've got £300-400 on this, haven't we?

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Which will come in very useful if you're moving to Sri Lanka.

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Why are you going to Sri Lanka?

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-To settle down there.

-Yeah? Had enough of...

-Had enough of UK.

-Had enough of Tring!

-Yes.

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-Really?

-Yes.

-What do you do here?

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-I work as a nurse.

-You work as a nurse.

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Will you retire in Sri Lanka?

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-Yes, definitely.

-And what part of Sri Lanka?

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-Colombo.

-Colombo, the capital?

-Yes.

-Oh, I envy you!

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-Thank you.

-And I wish you all the best with this bit of Morrisware.

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It is lovely, a beautiful design, I really hope it does well.

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It needs two people to bid this up to that sort of money, and we're going to find out right now.

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Fingers crossed!

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Good piece this is, very popular at the present time.

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There you are, where do we go on this one?

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Are we going to get towards for £500 for it? 500, 200...

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Starting at 200, are we?

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And there's a phone line that I can see next to the auctioneer's rostrum.

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-Oh, right, OK.

-At 280 I'm bid for it, 300 we're bid.

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-At 320, I have it at 350. At 350...

-Up, up, up.

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380 I'm bid, at 380.

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400 I'm bid, at 420.

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-450, 480...

-He's got a strong bidder on the phone.

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500 I'm bid, then.

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At 500 bid, at 520... 550 bid.

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580, is it? At 580...

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-600 we're bid now.

-Wonderful, it's wonderful.

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It's like ping-pong, backwards and forwards.

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This is getting exciting, I love it.

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At 620... At 650, give them time, no?

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-At 650...

-650.

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680 I've got it, at 680 it's left.

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He's missing a bid over here.

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-Come on!

-At £700.

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-I want it to go faster!

-At 720, surely? At 720 I'm bid.

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-720!

-At 740.

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750. 780. At 780 on the right, £780.

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I'm selling. In the room at 780.

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-It's going for £780.

-That's fantastic.

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-Well done.

-£780! I think that's between your estimate and his!

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-Yeah!

-So we'll settle for that.

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-Well done!

-A lot more than you were expecting!

-Yes.

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-Definitely.

-What's the first thing you'll do when you get there?

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-Spend it!

-Spend it!

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I'm leaving Hertfordshire and travelling into London itself.

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One of my favourite parts is the East End.

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It's always been a vibrant place of great cultural diversity.

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That's still true today. But another East-End custom has stood the test of time -

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and that's boxing!

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There's a great tradition of Cockney kids using the ring to make their fame if not the fortune.

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It goes back to the days of England's bare-knuckle boxing champs,

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like Jack Broughton and Daniel Mendoza in the early 1700s.

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Then, bouts lasted several hours and the winner was the last man standing.

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It became obvious that these fighters needed more protection during these brutal prize fights.

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More rules were needed and mufflers were introduced

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as a forerunner to the boxing glove, to protect the fighter's hands.

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So take it away, go on!

0:21:160:21:19

MUSIC: "Eye Of The Tiger" by Survivor

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300 years later, the art of boxing is still being taught to youngsters in the East End,

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instilling discipline and offering them a sense of purpose and inspiration.

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I'm here in England's most famous boxing club.

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It's the Repton Boxing Club in the heart of the East End.

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It was founded in 1884 for underprivileged boys to develop their boxing skills.

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Since then, it's bred many champions, among them, world welterweight champion John H Stacy

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and gold Olympic medallist Audley Harrison.

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But the East End doesn't only produce great boxers.

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In the 1930s, it also produced England's most successful boxing promoter - Jack Solomons.

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And that chap is very well known to Chas Taylor who, when he's not driving black cabs around London,

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is busy collecting boxing memorabilia.

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-Hi, Chas.

-Hi.

-So what can you tell me about Jack Solomons?

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Well, Jack Solomons came from the East End.

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He was a fishmonger but he loved boxing.

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And he became Britain's premier boxing promoter.

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He was the main man, without any shadow of doubt.

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What I want to know is, what's in the box that says "Jack Solomons" on it?

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Well, nothing's in the box at the moment, but that was Jack Solomons' glove box.

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And that was part of boxing history before TV took over boxing and kind of spoiled it.

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And a lot of people have ideas!

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The tradition was at title fights,

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the gloves were carried out to a fanfare of trumpets

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and the gloves were in the box that was carried into the ring

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and the two different trainers would come up,

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select the gloves, and then they would take them

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and take them back and glove the fighters up in the ring.

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And the atmosphere was building up in the arena as the boxers

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were putting their gloves on and lacing them up.

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And that was the atmosphere then.

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-You can feel the tension now, you describing it!

-That's how it was.

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And so many British title fights and world title fights,

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the gloves were carried out in that box.

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-Sugar Ray Robinson and Randolph Turpin's gloves were carried out in that box.

-Wow!

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It's a battered old box, but it's got history to it.

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-And it's probably one of your top pieces, I would imagine?

-Yes.

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What else have you got here? Lots of programmes and books.

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First, tell me about the belts, because they've caught my eye.

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-They're early English middleweight belts.

-OK.

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Middleweight championship belts.

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The first one there was won by a man called Ted White.

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He was the British middleweight champion in about 1884.

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And this other one was also for

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the British middleweight championship in the 1880s,

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won by a very good boxer from Birmingham

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called Anthony Diamond - Tony Diamond.

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-These are pretty rare, aren't they?

-Extremely rare, yes.

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If I had to win one of them, I'd like to win the early-Victorian one.

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-That's very ornate, isn't it?

-It is, isn't it? It's all solid silver.

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-Gosh!

-Fantastic.

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Tell me, have the gloves changed much throughout history?

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Oh yeah, they've had to change. If you look at these early gloves,

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I mean, there's nothing of them, compared with today's gloves.

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These had horsehair in them.

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And this pair of gloves was worn by Bruce Woodcock

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when he fought Tammy Mauriello in Madison Square Garden.

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-When was that?

-1946.

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Gosh, a bit before my time, that one!

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I know Henry Cooper and Muhammad Ali and Joe Bugner!

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-Whose gloves are these?

-That pair of gloves, they were worn by Bruce Woodcock as well

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when he fought for Jack Solomons' version of the Heavyweight Championship of the World.

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-When he fought Lee Savold.

-And here's the programme!

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That's the programme. In 1948.

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Joe Louis retired and so Jack Solomons said,

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"That's all right, I'll promote a heavyweight championship myself".

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And he had Bruce Woodcock fighting the American Lee Savold.

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-Bruce lost, unfortunately.

-Are these programmes collectible?

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-Very collectible, yeah.

-Just like football programmes?

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Oh yeah, yeah. Probably more so.

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When you collect, you just collect everything.

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-Even, that is a book of matches from Jack Dempsey's restaurant.

-Oh!

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-In New York?

-Yes.

-But what's this?

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-The shoe polish there?

-This is a tin of white shoe polish with Muhammad Ali promoting it!

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This is very valuable now. These go for about £100 a tin!

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-Really?

-..For one of these.

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I was waiting to get his autograph one day outside a hotel in London.

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I took two books down for him to sign and I waited outside this hotel for three hours.

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And he finally came out, Muhammad, and I politely went up to him

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and said, "Would you mind signing these two books for me, please?"

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He signed them both and then I said, "I'm a big fan of yours," I said,

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"I've just got this tin of shoe polish..."

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He looked at it and smiled with that glint in his eye, you know?

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And cos this was a white tin he went,

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"You know," he said, "I got paid twice as much to promote that white tin of polish

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"as I did for the black!"

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And everybody around him was laughing, you know?

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Is this getting harder to collect as the years go by?

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Yes. There's more people collecting and we're all trying to get it.

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But it makes it exciting and interesting and you meet a lot of friends through doing it.

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And you swap stuff and you boast about what you've just found, obviously!

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-Have you got a houseful now?

-I've got a house full! Absolutely!

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Thanks very much for showing us just a small part of the collection.

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Back at the valuation day, our experts have been busy hunting down some more fascinating collectibles.

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-Hi, Suzanne.

-Hello!

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What a wonderfully Gothic object you brought in. Where did you get it from?

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I inherited it in 2001 when my mother passed away.

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It was in a tea chest wrapped in newspaper

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with other objects that I remembered from my childhood.

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But I have no recollection of this at all.

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We think that it may have been my grandmother who bought it.

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She used to go to sales, large country house sales,

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after the Second World War and pick up curiosities.

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And perhaps it was something that she bought.

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What happened to all these objects you inherited?

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Well, the ones that I was sentimentally attached to, I've kept and they are at home on display.

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But the majority of them went into Bonhams in 2002 and we got rid of them.

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And did you try this at that time?

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We did, and we didn't get a single bid on it!

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-Nobody was interested in it!

-Nobody at all?

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I wonder why? What sort of estimate was on it at the time?

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-I think it was 500.

-About 500?

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That might be the reason why.

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It's a very interesting object.

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Its German, in actual fact.

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It's actually by quite a well known designer called Berthold Muller,

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who specialised in these sort of novelty items of silver,

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often copying things from the Renaissance,

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miniature versions of Renaissance pieces of art.

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When we look at this piece,

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we can actually see that the top comes off and slides off like that.

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And the wings actually open.

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-And it's really quite a sort of Gothic monstrosity, isn't it?

-Mm.

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Here we've got a full series of German hallmarks,

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as well as an import mark for Chester around about 1906.

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Oh, right!

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-So it's 100 years old!

-Although, I think it was probably made 20 or 30 years earlier than that.

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-So maybe 1880, something like that.

-Right.

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You've got this sort of half-bird, half-creature.

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A sort of griffin's head here, serpent's tale,

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sort of phoenix body and then this classical beauty on the top.

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So I suppose you could keep anything you want in it

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or it is just a decorative cabinet piece, I suppose.

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There are collectors for this sort of thing.

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And if I was putting it into sale today,

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I would probably suggest something around the £300 to 400 mark.

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And put the reserve at the low end

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-with a bit of discretion for the auctioneer.

-OK.

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-And let's just see if it flies on the day.

-OK. OK.

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And if we got a good price for it, what would you do with the cash?

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We're making a retirement move to Wales within the next few months,

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so something for the new house.

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Wonderful! I look forward to seeing you at the auction.

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Let's hope we don't scare the bidders away with it!

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I hope not! Thank you.

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So tell me about these?

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Where did they come from?

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An aunt of mine had them. She died and left them to my mother

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who died and left them to my brother.

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And then my brother died and left them to me!

0:29:510:29:55

I understand why you want to get rid of them pretty quickly!

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-That's right.

-I think they're cursed, don't you?

-I do!

0:30:000:30:03

Oh dear!

0:30:030:30:04

Now who's this lovely little pussy that you brought along today?

0:30:080:30:12

-My pussycat!

-Your pussycat. Where does he come from?

0:30:120:30:15

He came from my Aunty Alice.

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-You were given him when you were...?

-Two years old.

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-It looks like he's been very well played with.

-He has, yes.

-Or she? Is it a he or she?

-Oh, he's a he.

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-He's definitely a he?

-He's definitely a he.

-What's his name?

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He hasn't really got a name.

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-He's just my cat.

-And he's been really loved?

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-Yes.

-And played with.

-That's right.

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D'you know anything about him?

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-Not really, no.

-You knew who he is by?

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-The maker?

-He's Steiff, yes.

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We know that he's by Steiff

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because he's got the infamous button in the ear.

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We see lots of teddy bears coming on the market and of course,

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they did make other sort of cuddly toys.

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I haven't seen a cat before.

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And then when you move his tail of course...

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his head moves as well.

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Oh look! He's a little moving cat!

0:30:570:31:01

Oh, he's lovely! What a sweet little pussycat!

0:31:010:31:03

When did you actually receive him?

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-1933, actually.

-1933.

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-So it was probably new when your aunt bought it.

-Oh it was, yes.

0:31:080:31:11

-She wouldn't...

-She wouldn't have bought you a second-hand cat.

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Oh no. She was very particular.

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D'you know anything about Margaret Steiff,

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-the maker of these bears?

-No.

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Margaret Steiff began producing bears from the early 1900s.

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And in 1903 we see the very early cuddly toys

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with a button in the ear.

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But they had a little elephant symbol,

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a little elephant emblem rather than the name Steiff.

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Then later on, she began to actually put the name Steiff on the button.

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This actually does have the name Steiff,

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so we know of course that it's later.

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Another clue is that these eyes here are actually glass.

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So that dates it to post-First World War.

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Because the very early ones have the black boot button eyes.

0:31:500:31:53

-Now do you have any ideas on value for this?

-Not a clue. Not a clue,

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being it's a cat, you know.

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This is in quite poor condition.

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But I think we should probably put around £100 to £150.

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But I really hope he makes a lot more than that.

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I mean, Steiff is a fantastic name.

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It's recognised all around the world.

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If it's illustrated in the catalogue

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and a lot of people see it, let's hope it does more than that.

0:32:150:32:18

-But we should ask...

-It's unusual.

-He is unusual.

0:32:180:32:21

-You love him, don't you?

-I do!

-Why are you selling him?

-Well, there you are.

0:32:210:32:25

-The children are not interested in him so, you know, he might go to a much better home.

-He might well.

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I hope he does. I hope he's loved as much as you love him.

0:32:310:32:34

-Hi, Robin.

-Hello, Mark.

0:32:380:32:40

I love this! I'm having a real sort of Gothic day today, actually.

0:32:400:32:44

And this is another sort of Gothic-inspired piece, really.

0:32:440:32:47

Give us the history of it.

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Well, I bought it at a charity auction about three years ago.

0:32:490:32:53

I've loved it from day one, but my wife absolutely hates it!

0:32:530:32:56

So I've decided, you've come to town, I'll get rid of it.

0:32:560:32:59

So tell me why you were attracted to it?

0:32:590:33:02

I just fell in love with it.

0:33:020:33:04

It's unusual and I've never seen a piece of Doulton

0:33:040:33:07

-with a handle like that on it!

-No, quite right!

0:33:070:33:10

I mean, when you see pieces like this, the first person you think of

0:33:100:33:15

is Mark Marshall who was a designer for Doulton

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who did a lot of these grotesque animals as handles,

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big serpents going around the vases, that sort of thing.

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There were other designers who did similar work,

0:33:240:33:26

but he's the main protagonist for this type of ware.

0:33:260:33:29

We've looked at the marks.

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The marks underneath don't correspond to any one we know.

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It's worth looking just at the body.

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We've got this nice sort of ovoid body. And these sort of cherubs.

0:33:370:33:42

And I've never seen them looking so butch!

0:33:420:33:45

They must go to the gym every day!

0:33:450:33:47

But it's a very, very interesting piece.

0:33:470:33:49

Made probably around about 1880, something like that,

0:33:490:33:53

give or take 10 years.

0:33:530:33:55

Are you interested in selling it?

0:33:550:33:57

Oh yes. I will sell it.

0:33:570:33:58

And if we got a good price for it, would you put the money towards another collectible?

0:33:580:34:04

No. I've just bought a new fishing rod, and I need a new reel.

0:34:040:34:07

Something very practical for you?

0:34:070:34:09

-Yes.

-So you paid £210 for it.

0:34:090:34:12

You paid about the right price, I think.

0:34:120:34:14

I would say, if we were putting it in for auction, 250 to 350.

0:34:140:34:20

But it will be with this note of caution -

0:34:200:34:23

if two people really want this, then it could go a lot higher.

0:34:230:34:27

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of competition,

0:34:270:34:31

that it didn't make £400 or £500.

0:34:310:34:33

That would be lovely. You'd get a very expensive reel for that, I should imagine!

0:34:330:34:37

I look forward to seeing you at the auction.

0:34:370:34:40

And let's hope there's a few more Goths out there!

0:34:400:34:43

Mark's certainly been attracted to the Gothic items today,

0:34:480:34:52

with the Doulton jug and the odd German box catching his eye.

0:34:520:34:55

And I'm sure some lucky bidder will pounce on the adorable Steiff cat.

0:34:550:35:00

So now it's time to get straight back to the auction room in Tring.

0:35:030:35:07

Now, I want to give you a few tips on buying an oak coffer.

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This is a very good example because it stands high off the ground.

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It's built on styled legs. Now originally,

0:35:160:35:19

in the 18th century, this would have sat on a very damp stone floor.

0:35:190:35:23

The legs would rot, they get cut down over a period of time and evened up.

0:35:230:35:27

But this is an excellent example. It stands really high off the ground.

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Tip number two -

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lift the lid up and examine the hinges.

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This has got split-pin hinges which literally go through the back frame and through the lid

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and the pin opens up and you separate it like a staple to hold it fast.

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Tip number three - they would always have a candle box.

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Here is the little box.

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You keep your candles in there and it's the tallow from the wax which repels all the moths.

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Because this would have been a blanket chest, full of linen,

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and the moths would love to eat that.

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And lastly, it's not been over-polished.

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This is its original patina.

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It's got a lovely sort of dry look to it that will take a good polish.

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And the patina will just shine.

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It's from the 18th century. It's English.

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And if you can pick this up for 500 quid, that is a fantastic investment.

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Robin, you brought some quality in today.

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A bit of Royal Doulton - it never lets us down on Flog It!

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We're looking at 250 to 350. I love what you are selling this for.

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You want to put the money towards some fishing equipment?

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-I certainly do!

-I think that's a very good exchange, Mark Stacey, don't you?!

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I'm a fisherman, he's a fisherman...

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He's a Royal Doulton lover!

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I don't... I'm not into fish, Paul!

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I don't go fishing at all.

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Well, you're missing out! Where do you fish?

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-The Tawe in Carmarthenshire.

-Biggest fish you've caught?

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-12 pounds seven.

-I bet that put up a fight!

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It certainly did! On a trout rod.

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Wow! Let's hope we get top money for you today, 350 plus.

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It's a great name. It's in good condition.

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And there is a band of dedicated collectors here, so I'm hopeful.

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Will it get the top end today?

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I hope so, Paul. It should do. It's a good piece.

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Fingers crossed! This is it.

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Now we've got 2012, this Doulton Lambeth ewer.

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Got the Dragon handles with it.

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And that very unusual cherub decoration to it.

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Where do we go on this one? Are we going to get 250 for it?

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200 then? 150? 150 I'm bid, am I?

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150 has got it. Thank you. 150 I'm bid, then. 150 bid.

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160. 180. 200 I'm bid.

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220 I'm bid. At 220. And 50 is in.

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At 250 now. At 250 I'm bid. At 250.

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At 250's bid.

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At 250. 80 now? No more.

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250 then. You're out front.

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Sold and done. Right then, going.

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I'm selling. For 280. At 280.

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At 280.

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-300.

-Right at the very end!

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-300.

-The phone's come in.

-At 300 then, yes or no? No?

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I'm selling then at £300.

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That put up a fight, didn't it?!

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Not as much as a 12 pound salmon, but it will get the reel.

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Yes, it certainly will.

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-Well done, Mark.

-I'm pleased, right in the middle of the estimate.

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Very, very good. Well done.

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They took the bait!

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Bert and Betty are now in place to see what, your childhood memories just flutter away!

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I've got to give you a tough time over this.

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You've had this Steiff pussycat since you were two years old.

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-That's right.

-Why are you flogging it?

-I've grown out of it!

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I know you've grown out of it! But that is your childhood memories!

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It's been with you all your life. It's probably the one item

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-that you've had longer than anything.

-It is.

-Yes, it is.

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-You're right.

-And now it's going!

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-You know more about me than I do!

-What d'you think, Betty?

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-I think he can get rid of it!

-You've given him permission?

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Yes, this is it. If it had been perhaps a lady's cat.

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But a man thinks, well,

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-get rid of it.

-The thing is, have we got the estimate right?

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Is it purr-fect?!

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-Oh no!

-They get worse!

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They do, don't they? Let's hope we get the top end - £150 to 200.

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It's going under the hammer now!

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We have a Steiff soft toy cat, 1930.

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There you are, 1689, the soft cat.

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These are always desirable.

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There we go, what about £100 for it?

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-Yes, £100 straight in.

-We've done it.

-Straight in.

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120. 130. And 40.

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-And 50. 160.

-It's really going up!

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Great make. I mean, it's as good as you are going to get.

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It's going to go mad, isn't it?

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220 I've got now. At 220...

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At 230.

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He wants a very good home. £240.

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It is a lovely cat.

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-250.

-He's on the phone.

-260 I've got, 270.

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Is it going to be £280? You've got plenty of room for it...

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Yes, £280!

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£290 to bid. At £280, one more?

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No? At £280, then.

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Yes, you have a new cat.

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At £280, then.

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-Perfect!

-Oh, that's really good.

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-£50 we thought!

-You thought you were going to get 50 quid?

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Aw, what a lovely surprise!

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That's fantastic, I'm so pleased.

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I'm pleased it made a good result. There are a lot of memories there.

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-Yes, well...

-280 quid, there's a bit of commission but what are you going to spend that on?

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New set of bowls. Green bowls.

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-Oh, you go bowling, do you?

-Yes.

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-You both bowl?

-Yes.

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-Aww...

-So I might get a set as well!

-Good, I hope you do!

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I've been looking forward to this, Suzanne. Have you?

0:40:460:40:48

-Yes, quite excited about it.

-Now is the moment.

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We got some German silver going under the hammer,

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with a valuation of £300 to £400, put on by Mark Stacey.

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I had a look at this earlier, it reminds me of the roadrunner.

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It could be a Victorian version of the roadrunner. Beep beep!

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-Sort of!

-Couldn't it? Sort of?

-It's a bit odd.

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It is a very odd thing.

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Very Gothic. But I like it, I think it's got a charm.

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I like it, it's quirky and that's why it's hard to value, I think.

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I know it's been in auction before, it failed to get the £500 mark.

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Mark's put £300 to £400 on it.

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Let's hope we get that because she's moving to Wales, my favourite part of the world!

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-Yes, that's right.

-What part of Wales are you going to?

-Near Carmarthen.

-Oh, how pretty.

0:41:250:41:30

-Let's get you there. This is it.

-OK.

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There it is, nice interesting piece.

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A good Victorian talking piece.

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What about this? Where're we going to go?

0:41:360:41:38

£400 for it. Nice little interesting piece.

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£400? £300?

0:41:400:41:41

-Yes! At £300, thank you.

-£300 there.

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Yes! It's good! Yes.

0:41:450:41:46

300 I'm bid. 350 I'm bid.

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They're bidding next to you.

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...£400, higher bid? £420 I'm bid for it.

0:41:500:41:53

-At £450, yes, £450...

-Gosh!

-£480...

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-Terrific.

-At £480, £500 is bid...

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-It's done its £500.

-Absolutely.

0:41:590:42:01

Oh, that's wonderful! It's terrific!

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-..£550. £580.

-Look, someone's on the phone.

0:42:030:42:07

-Yes, I can see.

-..£620 now, no?

0:42:070:42:09

-£620, I've got it.

-Oh, gracious!

0:42:090:42:11

You lose it. At £620, then.

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At £680, gonna be £700 bid.

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£720 bid.

0:42:180:42:21

-Oh, another one!

-At £750...

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They are fighting over this.

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At £780.

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-Yes! £780!

-Absolutely fantastic!

0:42:280:42:32

I'm over the world! It's terrific!

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Oh, I'm ever so pleased.

0:42:340:42:36

Did you see how quick that hammer went down on the last bid?

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-Doosh!

-Straight down.

-It just goes to show, doesn't it?

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Couldn't get £500 a year or two ago.

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That's right. And now we got £780. That's terrific!

0:42:440:42:47

-That'll help towards the move.

-It will, buy something nice with that.

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-Plant something up in the garden maybe.

-Absolutely.

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Watch it grow. Think of Flog It!

0:42:530:42:55

-Absolutely.

-Terrific, thank you.

0:42:550:42:57

What a marvellous day we've had here at the Tring auction rooms.

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Lots of high flyers.

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My personal favourite had to be the Steiff pussycat,

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he was so worn out and tatty but he reached the purr-fect figure of £280.

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Burt was very happy to sell him.

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Personally, I would have kept him for the rest of my life.

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Join me for lots more surprises next time on Flog It!

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