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We're in the heart of England for today's Flog It.

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We're at the National Motorcycle Museum in Solihull.

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The West Midlands has been the home of British motor manufacturing throughout the 20th century,

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although sadly the glory days have now passed.

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This museum stands as a tribute

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to that once-great industry, which dominated the world

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for many decades.

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These wonderful, gleaming bikes are a fitting tribute

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to the sheer brilliance of the British engineering achievement.

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Hello there. What have we got in there?

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Today, our experts are the brilliant Will Axon and James Lewis.

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It's now 9.30.

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Let's get the doors open, get everybody inside and kick-start the show.

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And it looks like Will has already spotted something interesting.

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This is wonderful. Tell me more about it.

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When I saw it in the queue, I thought perhaps you'd come on your motorbike and left your helmet in the bag

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or perhaps a part-time astronaut.

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Cos this is a great piece of post-war design. How did you come by it?

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It's actually my sister's. She and her husband got married in 1968.

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So I assume they bought it shortly after they were married.

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I think it dates from towards the early '70s, that sort of period.

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-Yeah.

-And does she use it?

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-Has she used it or is it?

-They used to use it.

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They don't use it now. Haven't for a long time.

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No. Well, I think it's great.

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It's actually... Obviously, we've got the name of the maker on it, JVC, a Japanese firm

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who in the sort of '70s, early '70s, they were taking their sort of design influence, shall we say,

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from the space race. You know, everyone was trying to, you know, going up to the moon,

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conquering, putting satellites out in orbit and so on.

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Which is where this TV gets its nickname. It's known as the Sputnik.

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-Is it?

-Yeah, the Sputnik, after the Russian satellites that were blasted into orbit.

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You've also got the original instruction leaflet here.

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-Yes.

-So if I just open up these instructions, they're wonderful in their own right.

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And it's even got these rather handy illustrations here, which are a sort of self-diagnosis of the problem.

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Figure five looks like it's in a bit of trouble. If it goes like that, it's ready for the bin.

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Let's look at it value-wise. I just noticed here...

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You see these two little chains that are popping out the top?

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They would have been a chain loop. Because the alternative for this...

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You could have it on the stand as it is here, which is again a multi-swivel stand.

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Or you could hang it from the ceiling from a chain, which would look great.

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Imagine this orange, ball telly just hanging down.

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-So like I say, bearing the condition, I would say a sensible estimate of £200-£300.

-Really?

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Yes. Is that more than you thought it would be worth?

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Much more.

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-Really? Um...

-I thought about £50.

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Really? No, that would be a good buy at £50.

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In the right shop, you could see it retailed at sort of 500 plus.

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So at auction, you should be looking at £200-£300 certainly.

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-OK.

-So if we say 200-300.

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Put a reserve on it at £200, bidder discretion.

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OK. My sister actually said she didn't worry about the reserve.

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No reserve. Excellent. So £200-£300, no reserve and hopefully we'll do very well for you on the day.

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Albert, when I first saw this, I saw it from behind and I thought it was a little desk watch.

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Then I thought it was a picture frame.

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And then I thought it was a desk weight.

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And the thing is, they're all three in combination.

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So it's a really neat, little thing for somebody's desk.

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Now tell me, it's obviously Continental.

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It's got a German or Austrian scene on the front there.

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Looks like somewhere... Rhine Valley, I should think.

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And if we turn it over, it's inscribed in Swiss at the back.

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So it's a Swiss-made thing probably for the German market.

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It's a little picture, painted on ivory,

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and the clock tower actually has a working little timepiece in there.

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On a solid marble plinth.

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-Now is that something you picked up on your travels?

-No.

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It belongs to the wife's mother.

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So tell me, how does it come to be in your house?

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Well, it was off the mother, but apparently the story was

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it was brought back from Germany just after the Second World War.

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-OK, as a tourist souvenir?

-As far as I know, yeah.

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I mean, it's a neat little thing, but obviously you don't use it.

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-No, no, no.

-I reckon that's going to go to somebody just as a little bit of fun.

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Um, so therefore, it's not a lot of money.

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It's not going to be worth a fortune.

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Um, having said that, it's nice quality.

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It's gilt brass. It's solid marble.

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It's watercolour on ivory.

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Nice little Swiss watch movement in the back.

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What shall we say? £40-£60.

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-Fine, yeah.

-£30 reserve.

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-You happy with that?

-Fine.

-Fantastic. Let's see how it does.

-OK. Thank you.

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Kathleen, thank you for bringing this in.

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Is this your concertina?

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No, it was my husband's.

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-It's what's affectionately known as a squeeze box.

-Yes.

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-So it was your late husband's?

-Yes.

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How long had he had it, do you know?

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He must have had it 50 years.

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-And did he ever learn to play?

-No.

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Well, let's have a look at it.

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The first thing to check is the maker's name.

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Lachenal. London maker. It's a quality instrument.

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These date from round about 1820. Popular throughout the Continent.

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Mainly in France. The first thing to look for are the bellows action.

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Now if I open this right out, the fabric does tend to split open

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and that's why you see lots of them taped up.

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But looking at all these cards, the linen over them is in perfect condition.

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-So that's a good start, isn't it?

-Yes.

-It really is.

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The important thing to look for are these little bone buttons.

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There's 15 of them.

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And we've sold them on the show before with 23 or 24 buttons and they've reached £300-£400.

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I personally think this one, even though it is fantastic quality, it's probably worth £200-£300.

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-Right. I've been offered a lot more than that.

-Have you?

-Yes.

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What were you offered?

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Many years ago he was offered 800.

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£800! How long ago was that?

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Oh, about four years ago.

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From someone who sells...

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I hope it is worth that.

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-If you want, you can put that into auction with a fixed reserve of £700.

-Right.

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And it doesn't sell for £700, you can take it home and sell it

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-to the person that offered you that sort of money. Shall we do that?

-Yes. It's doing no good at home.

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Exactly.

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-All we can do is give it a go.

-Yeah.

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All right. Let's go right through to the auction with this

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and please prove me wrong!

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John, I have to say, when I saw you in the queue earlier today and I saw one of these volumes,

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my immediate thought was, "Oh, no, you've only got one."

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But you had all three. But you had to go all they way back to get them, all the way home.

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Yes, that's right, yes.

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So whenever we're looking at a leather-bound book of this size,

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the size alone tells us it's a pretty important book.

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They're either important books or company ledgers that you find in this size.

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So let's open up and have a look.

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And as soon as you turn to the frontispiece,

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one of the most important names ever in botany - William Curtis.

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This edition. Except we've got Roman numerals here,

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1777.

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Absolutely fantastic. First edition.

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-That's right, yeah.

-So you've got one of the most important botanists,

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the first-ever edition, all three volumes.

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And you've got other works linked in.

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Tell me, how do you come to have these?

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Well, they've been passed down through the family.

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He is, in fact, my great-great-great-great grandfather.

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-William Curtis is?

-William Curtis, yeah.

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-Fantastic!

-My father was really proud of his ancestry

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and, of course, I've known about this all my life.

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But I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it now that it's in my custody.

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Gosh! Well!

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It's probably been in your family since the day it was published.

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This could even have been HIS copy.

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-That's right, yeah. That's what we think.

-Oh! I mean, what a provenance.

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Look at these.

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It's interesting, if you look back in history,

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he was said to have a microscopic eye and didn't even use lenses to look at the plants that he was sketching.

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And each one of these plates would have been hand-coloured at the time the books were made.

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So these aren't later coloured. These were done at the time. Look at that.

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That thistle is just marvellous. OK, it's a very good book.

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Now of course, for any botanist this was the...

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the fun thing to produce.

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But the bread and butter was this, his botanical magazine

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that was produced literally every couple of weeks.

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Here we have Curtis's Botanical Magazine or Flower-Garden Displayed.

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And these are dated, here we go MDC... 1822. So look at those again.

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Lots of coloured plates.

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-Yeah, beautiful illustrations.

-They're lovely.

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OK. We need to come up with some ideas of value for you.

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They have made as much as £6,000 in mint condition.

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I reckon we should put an estimate of 2,500-3,500 on them.

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They may make more. They've got all the plates there, so that's important. Need to put a reserve on.

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I would say £2,500. All right?

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Now obviously you've discussed it with your family.

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Yes.

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They've got to go somewhere.

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They can't stay in my loft for ever.

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These would look so wonderful back in a major library somewhere in one of the big country houses.

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They are such an important set.

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They're going to be well loved and well looked after and I'm sure they'll go to a great home.

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Before we go to auction to sell those family heirlooms,

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I'm going to take a quick journey back through history.

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Welcome to the ruins of Kenilworth Castle, home to one of England's most determined romantics.

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Noble families used to build castles to entertain kings and queens as they travelled around the country.

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And in 1575, Robert Dudley, the Earl of Leicester, was expecting a very important guest.

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And that guest was the object of all his affections.

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And when she arrived, she had an entourage of 400 people.

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It was none other than Queen Elizabeth I, who was very fond of travel.

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In fact, it was the Queen's fourth visit to Kenilworth, and Robert, well,

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he wanted to make it her most memorable.

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Dudley had been pursuing the Queen for 16 years and hoped

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during this visit, to finally tempt Elizabeth into marriage.

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His efforts to woo her were very impressive.

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He even had poetry and plays commissioned especially for her.

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And the prose often contained thinly veiled pronouncements of love.

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"The lake, the lodge, the Lord are yours to command."

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The most lavish expense was the construction of grand, luxurious apartments in homage to the Queen,

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to make her stay as comfortable as possible.

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And to find out a bit more, I've come to talk to John Ducker of English Heritage.

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-Hi, John. Thanks for talking to us.

-No problem.

-It's got the wow factor, hasn't it?

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-It certainly has.

-You've got to use your imagination, but my word!

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What expense did Dudley go in preparation for the Queen's stay?

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Money was no object.

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Lavish banquets, commissioning of tapestries and paintings.

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All the sorts of elements of theatre to introduce these magnificent apartments to the Queen.

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-But what about refined architectural detail? Obviously, fireplaces, windows.

-It was all about light.

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The upper floors would have had huge windows to let light in,

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so the Queen could see the tapestries and the paintings.

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Dudley did lots of work throughout the castle.

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Turning it from a defensive fortification really to a palace for entertainment.

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It's all about theatre and show.

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He's trying to impress the Queen.

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-Can we go through here?

-Certainly.

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Oh, look at that.

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Where we're now stood, this would have been the Queen's wardrobe area,

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where the belongings that she brought with her would have been.

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Then we'd have gone up in importance. These levels here would have been for entertaining.

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The third level would have been the Queen's apartment,

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where only the most close in the court would have been allowed.

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And of course she gets lovely views as well.

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She gets lovely views as well!

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And right on the top floor would have been this grand ballroom.

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-Lots of dancing and...

-Really, on the top floor?

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-Yeah.

-Gosh, you think you'd be exhausted getting up there before you start dancing.

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From here the Queen would have been able to look out, as you've mentioned. The landscape.

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And also when she was here, The Coventrymen,

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-they performed a play outside, so she could lean out the window...

-Panoramic view.

-Exactly, yeah.

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Live here, good Queen, live here.

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You are amongst friends.

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Their comfort comes when you approach and when you part, it ends.

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The Queen and her courtiers stayed 19 days, making the most

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of the lavish hospitality offered by Robert Dudley.

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He proposed to her and after a long consultation with her advisers, Elizabeth turned him down.

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Dudley was devastated.

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However, this isn't as heartless as it sounds.

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Elizabeth was reported to be deeply upset when she'd heard

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that Robert Dudley had married Lettice Knollys three years later.

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And she was quoted as saying...

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"I love him and will love and regard him all my life long."

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And it appears that she did.

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After the death of Elizabeth in 1603, 28 years later,

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a letter was found in a wooden box she kept by her bed.

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It was a love letter from Robert Dudley.

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Back at the valuation day,

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let's look at what we'll be selling at the auction.

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I loved this '60s Sputnik telly.

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I can really see it taking off for June at auction.

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Kathleen is so optimistic about her concertina, she's upped the reserve from 700 to £800.

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These beautifully illustrated botany books will do well providing the right people know about them.

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I personally think we've found some real gems here.

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And finally, Brian's charming '40s clock will wind up with a well timed profit at auction.

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We'll just need the bidders to be in the mood.

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We're at Bigwood's Auction House in Stratford with Christopher Ironmonger on the rostrum.

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I want to find out what he thinks about the botanical books.

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Owner John is so confident he's upped the reserve to £3,500.

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Remember these? Well, you remember John as well, the owner. They've been in his family

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for a long time.

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-Now let me get this right, great-great-great-grandfather.

-Amazing.

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I don't know why he's flogging them, but obviously he needs the money.

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And we've got a valuation of £2,500-£3,000 on them.

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I know he's put the reserve up now.

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-Hmm.

-He's upped it to £3,500.

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So maybe they're going to stay in the family.

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Well, I'm optimistic. We've certainly had good interest so far.

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-I think we've got a couple of telephone bids booked.

-That's a good sign.

-That is.

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-We'll be working hard at it.

-Can't wait.

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Whatever you do, don't go away.

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Watch this space, because Chris is going to get on the rostrum and weave some magic right now.

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Well, Kathleen and I want to make sweet music.

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We want to end in a crescendo with this lovely, little concertina.

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It's got a value of £800-£1,200.

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I had a chat to the auctioneer earlier.

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He said, "I thought it was a little bit punchy to start with, Paul, but

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"we've got a couple of telephone bids booked." So that's a good sign.

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It's a gorgeous instrument.

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It's quality as well. This is it. It's going under the hammer now.

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It's been a long wait, hasn't it?

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442. 19th-century, Lachenal and Co, patent concertina.

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I can start with bids on the book at 800. On the book at 800.

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We've sold it.

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Is it 850?

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850, anywhere? 850. I've got 900.

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-950.

-950? Yes, sir.

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-950. 950.

-Oh, go on.

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Is it 1,000? I've got 960 here. 980.

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Go 980? Yes, sir.

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980. It's with you and I'm out now.

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980, with you. £980.

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That's very good, isn't it?

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On the telephone at 980. Is it 1,000?

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The bid's on that telephone at £980.

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And we're selling. Yes!

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Well done, you. £980.

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You knew its value.

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Gosh! What are you going to do with that money?

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New fencing in the garden.

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New fence in the garden!

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Ah, thank you so much for coming in.

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I thoroughly enjoyed that.

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-It's been a long wait for that one, hasn't it?

-Yes.

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We did it! We did the business!

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Right now, time is up for Albert's desk weight.

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It's got a little clock in and it's an image of the Rhine.

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And we've got what? £30, £40, hopefully £60 on this.

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-Let's get James' top end of the estimate.

-It's not a lot, is it?

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No, but it was the mother-in-law's, wasn't it?

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-Yes.

-Did you get her permission to sell it?

-Yes.

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He's laughing his head off.

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-The wife's permission.

-The wife's permission. That's more like it.

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Why do you want to flog it? Has it been on a desk?

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No, it's just been in the cupboard.

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-Doing nothing?

-Yeah.

-Sick of it now?

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-Yeah.

-Want to flog it?

-Yeah.

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We'll do our best. Fingers crossed.

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This is it. Good luck.

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The 1930s desk paperweight.

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Rhine Valley. Eight-day mechanism.

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A little clock there in it.

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Rather nice. Blue John moulded plinth as well.

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£20, start me. £20, I've got.

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Five. £30, sir? £30. Five, is it? At 30, at the back.

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Five. 40. Five. 45...

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-This is good.

-..50. Five. 60.

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60 and five. 70, at the back.

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70 and five, sir. 75. And 80.

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At 80 and five. 85. And 90...

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-They love it!

-95. 100. 100.

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Go 110. 110. 120...

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-Gosh, I'm pleased you brought this along now. Bet you are too.

-Yeah.

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140. 150. 145, all right. 150.

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155. 150, right at the back. At 150.

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It's going to be sold. You all done?

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£150. He said Blue John.

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Maybe that's what put the price up.

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Well, there we go.

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-You've got to be impressed with that, haven't you?

-Brilliant.

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I said earlier I won't ask you what you'll spend the money on if it sells for 30 quid

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because there's a lotting fee of £7.

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By the time you take the commission away, you don't go home with much.

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-But you're going to go home with quite a bit now.

-Yes. Well pleased.

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What are you going to do with that, £140-odd?

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Probably buy a bit of jewellery.

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A bit of jewellery. Lovely.

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-What a good day out.

-Brilliant.

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-Is she here?

-No, no, no.

-Oh!

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-Working.

-She's working.

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-Where I should be.

-You should be, yeah.

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Do not adjust your TV sets, especially this one.

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It belongs to June. It's the Sputnik. It's the JVC.

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And I think this is iconic. This has got the look.

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In bright orange, £200-£300 put on by Will, our expert.

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Why are you flogging this? This is a design icon.

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You should keep hold of this one.

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-It's not mine, it's my sister's.

-Oh, is it?

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-That's why she's flogging it.

-And they're moving and they don't want to use it...

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-They don't use it anyway, but...

-Cos it works still?

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-Yes, it does.

-Well, let's hope we get the top end.

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Let's hope we get that £300. I know there's no reserve, is there?

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No. It's here to go, isn't it? Again, living on the edge. We like this.

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Once you've decided to sell something, usually when you go to auction,

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things are making their best price on their first outing.

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Once you don't sell something and then re-offer it in another sale, people, they've seen it.

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They know it does the rounds.

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-Exactly. So really let it go first time out.

-It'll be interesting to see.

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Yeah. We're going to find out right now, because this it, it's going under the hammer.

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Lot 300 is the JVC VideoSphere, black and white, manual television.

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There we are. I can open the bidding at 100.

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Here on the book at £100.

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-Gone.

-Is it 120?

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At £100, I'm going to sell it. 120.

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140? 120, at the back. And I'm out.

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120. 140?

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I'll take 130 if it helps anybody. 120, it seems reasonable to me.

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But it's going to be sold.

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£120.

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Are you done? Are you sure?

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-Hammer's gone done. £120.

-Not bad.

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No retro collectors here today.

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-It got the lower end.

-It's worth 200 quid.

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-You think so?

-But the sale, it's tricky.

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-You know, um...

-We got it away, that's the main thing.

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-You decided to sell it, we sold it.

-With no reserve. Bit of a risk.

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Yeah, there is a risk and bearing in mind the salesroom

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and the people who are here, that's a good price, all bearing in mind.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thanks.

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I've been waiting for this moment for the last six weeks since I saw at the valuation day

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John's botanical volumes. Three of them, absolutely stunning.

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They've been in the family a long time. Great-great-great- grandfather.

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This is a very exciting and a very sad moment, John.

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-You must have butterflies right now.

-I do.

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But first it's time to flog John's three botanical magazines.

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We've got a valuation of £150-£250 on these, put on by James Lewis, our expert.

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418. Now we're on to the Curtis's Botanical Magazine.

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Quite a bit of interest in it.

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Who's going to start me for this lot? Three volumes here and another.

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Ought to be a couple of hundred, I should think. Start me at 150.

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100. 100, I see. 100. 120.

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140. Is it 160? At £140. 160. 160?

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160. On that phone at 160. 180?

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180. 200? 220, sir? 220.

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240? 240. 260. 280? 300.

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320? 340?

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340. And 60? 360.

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380. 380. 400.

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420. 420. 440. 440. 460?

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He's got the butterflies. This is your family heritage.

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480, 500...

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It's sad and exciting, I bet. Yeah?

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-It is.

-..550, 600. 650.

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This is good.

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600, down there on the floor.

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600. 50 on the other phone? Yes, 650. 700. He says, "No."

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650 on that phone. At 650, and it will be sold, make no mistake.

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Any advance on 650?

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It's with that phone at 650.

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700, sir? 650.

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Yes! That's a great result. £650.

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-One more lot to go.

-Yeah, that's right.

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The three big volumes. I just hope that we get well over 3,500.

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And I'm pleased you've raised the reserve.

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I don't know if you know this, James.

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Originally, you said, "Yes, £2,500-£3,500."

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-We had a reserve at 2,500.

-Raised it to 3,500?

-We've raised it to 3,500.

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I think you've done exactly the right thing.

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Because there are no other books in the sale.

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It's right to protect them with that.

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And if they'd have been mine, come to the sale, only lot of books, I'd have done what you've done. Good move.

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Nice lot we're coming to now.

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Really rather special, ladies and gentlemen.

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We've got three volumes, the three volumes of it.

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I'm sure you've all had a good look. What am I going to ask you to bid?

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3,000, surely. 2,500.

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2,500, I'm bid. At 2,500. 2,5.

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2,6. 2,8.

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3,000. 3,2.

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3,4. 3,4. Is it 3,6? 3,6.

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-Good man.

-3,6, I've got over there. Yes, sir, 3,8. 3,8. 4, sir? 4,000.

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-4,2. 4,4. 4,6. 4,8.

-Now we're climbing.

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This is more like it.

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-4,8. 5,000. 5,2?

-Go to 5,2? Yes.

-5,2. 5,4. 5,6.

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5,8. 6,000?

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-At 6,000?

-Yeah, 6,000. 6,2.

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-6,4?

-Go to 6,400?

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-6,4. 6,6. 6,8? 7,000. 7,2...

-Worth every penny.

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-Fantastic.

-7,2. 7,4. 7,6.

-Go to 7,6?

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-No.

-7,400. Below the stairs here at 7,4.

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7,6, anywhere else?

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At 7,400, you're out? At 7,400.

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Hammer's gone done. £7,400.

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-Worth every single penny.

-Fantastic.

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John, I'm so pleased you put the reserve up and you protected them.

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-You did the right thing.

-And credit to the auction room, cos they marketed them well.

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They got on the phone to the right people. Two telephone bids.

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They've done a really good job here and you've done really well.

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What are you going to put £7,400 towards, less the commission, of course?

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What are you going to do with that? That's a lot of money!

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-Unfortunately, it's not all mine.

-It's all spent.

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No, it was given down through the family and I've got five brothers, well, four brothers and a sister.

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-So it will be shared?

-It needs to shared.

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But I can see a good holiday in there.

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There's a big grin on John's face.

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I hope you've got big grins on your face watching at home.

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We thoroughly enjoyed ourselves here at Stratford upon Avon.

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So until the next time, it's cheerio.

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