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Today's programme is on the northwest coast, welcome to Flog It! for the first time from Lancaster.

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Later on in the programme, we'll be finding out more

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about the fascinating story behind this incredible structure.

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But now it's time to get your antiques valued, at the Town Hall,

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which, incidentally, was commissioned by the same man.

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# Imagine all the girls Ah ah-ah ah ah-ah-ah-ah

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# And your boys Ah ah-ah ah ah-ah-ah-ah... #

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These Lancastrians are keen to find out if their antiques and valuables,

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family heirlooms, are really worth something.

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So, rummaging through the bags and boxes of this massive queue today,

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looking for the best items, we've got our experts,

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Mr Philip Serrell and Anita Manning!

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What have you two found so far?

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-Oh, this is going to be a good day...

-Some plastic bags!

-Bubble-wrap!

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And as you can see, the hall is filling up.

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First at the tables Philip Serrell, who's found something rather mysterious.

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Dorothy, this is interesting, where's it come from?

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I bought it at a bring-and-buy sale about 30 years ago.

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I hadn't been particularly interested in it when I saw it,

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but when the stalls were being packed up, I heard somebody say,

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"Shall we throw this dirty old thing in the bin

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"because nobody wants it?"

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So I paid a pound for it.

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It's a crying shame to think that all that work

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is going to be confined to the bin, isn't it?

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-That was what I thought.

-So it was really bought out of the sympathy vote?

-Yes.

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Why has it taken you 30 years to decide to sell it?

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I don't know, it got put in a cupboard,

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and I really forgot about it most of the time.

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As I say, it was very dirty,

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I've tried to brush it a little, but you can't do a lot with it.

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I mean, all this lovely bead work, this lovely mellow sort of patinated,

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which is another way of saying dirty, but in the middle...

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-Yes!

-..there is a bright, shiny...

-Modern pin.

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..modern pin. Is that you, Dorothy?

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Yes, I did, I thought it needed something in the middle.

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Well, it does a job there, so we'll just leave that as it be.

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It's a Victorian love token, really.

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-Oh!

-And this would have been done by someone in the Forces but I think

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-this particular one has been done by a sailor for his sweetheart.

-Yes.

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And you can just, can you see these anchors?

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-The anchors, yes.

-So, we've got the anchors and the hearts.

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Ah! Are those hearts?

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Yes, and it's been done as a real,

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-in the literal sense, as a labour of love, as a present for someone.

-Yes.

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It would date, I would think, to the last half of the 19th century.

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So it's a Victorian sailor's love token.

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And I think it's really sweet, it's become quite collectable. Any idea what it's worth?

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No, no idea at all.

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Well, I think... It's not big bucks, particularly for the amount of work

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that's in there, but I think that's gonna make between £30-£50.

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If you have a bit of luck it might make a bit more.

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So you've been to your bring-and-buy, now it's your take it and flog it!

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-Yes.

-Let's hope it does really well at the auction.

-Yes.

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Dorothy, this was the best-looking bird in the queue!

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-What a lovely object, what a wonderful thing.

-She is pretty.

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Tell me, where did you get her?

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It belonged to my mother-in-law, and it was left to her

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by a Polish gentleman, and they were friends,

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and she had nursed his wife,

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and he left it to her, and she left it to us.

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Now, Edna, tell me, what do you think of her?

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I think she's really tactile.

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You want to touch her all the time.

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Did you think of giving her to your sister?

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Erm, I love her but not that much!

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Let's have a look at her. Now, she's made of alabaster,

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the period that she was made was say between 1910 and 1920.

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I thought initially she may be French

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but I think she is, erm, Hungarian-Austrian,

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so that may fit in with the fact that it was given by a Polish gentleman.

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Right, yes.

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Now, if we look at the back...

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we can see the artist's signature here.

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Now, we can't make it out at this point or find any information on him,

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-but when he goes to auction, your auctioneer will have time...

-Right.

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..to perhaps identify the artist.

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That will be interesting, mmm.

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And if we look underneath,

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we have this brass stud here,

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and this stud tells us where it was made and which foundry made it.

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Right.

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Now, what I like most about her is the overall beauty.

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We have this lovely young maiden, with this interesting garment,

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it's a dress made from the wings of a dragonfly,

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isn't that a romantic idea?

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-It is, yes.

-She's a lovely item,

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she will be very popular, have you had it valued before?

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No, I haven't, no.

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The estimate I would put on it would be in the region of £300-£500.

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Would you be happy, Dorothy, to sell it at that price?

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Yes, that's absolutely fine.

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Well, let's put it to auction,

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we'll put a reserve of £300, with a little bit of discretion.

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And I'm sure that she will be fiercely competed for.

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Cedric, this has got the look,

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those dogs are flying through the hedgerow, such movement!

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Tell me all about this.

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I literally rescued it from a skip.

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Where and when?

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Going back 35 years.

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-35 years?

-I've had it.

-You've had it 35 years, OK.

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And I was working at the Customs House on Lancaster Quay.

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-And they were just...

-Clearing it out.

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..clearing everything out,

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throwing stuff away which probably was of value.

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-Yeah.

-I like greyhounds, whippets.

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-Yes, do you have one?

-No, I might get one one day.

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And I just thought, it's a real shame to see it thrown away.

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Exactly, and someone was gonna literally chuck that.

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Just throw it away.

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So I asked if I could have it and they said, "By all means, take it."

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-That was a bonus on top of your wages, wasn't it?

-It was, wasn't it?

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Yes. I'm hoping it is anyway.

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-And you've had it on your wall for the last 30-odd years?

-30-odd years.

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Can I take it off and have a good look, do you mind?

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By all means, yeah.

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I absolutely love it, I think it's typical of the 1830s, 1840s.

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Have you done any research on this?

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Erm, first of all the name came up, Abraham Cooper.

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Well, he did sporting dogs.

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And he flourished in the 1830s, he did paint dogs just like this.

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Unfortunately, there are no signatures,

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we can't attribute it to him without a signature,

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it's certainly in the style of.

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-This was painted on card.

-Card, yes.

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And it's been laid on plywood, quite a thick piece of plywood.

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Have you had any work done to this?

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Because this certainly is not 1830s, this is sort of marine ply,

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-you know, from the 1930s.

-I had it restored.

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And regardless of the price of having it restored,

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I thought, to me, it's worth it. I just like the picture, full stop.

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-You fell in love with it.

-Yeah.

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How much did you pay for restoration?

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-300.

-Right, so, the picture owes you £300, basically.

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I've got to say,

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I do think it's been over-restored.

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Right, yes.

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I think it's been slightly treacled up, and I think it's been cut down.

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Was it always this size?

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-Always, yes.

-Whoever painted this, if it was Cooper,

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he would have painted that...

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-You would have seen the full...

-You would have seen the full dog,

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you would have seen that dog ready to leap, there would have been

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something else going on here,

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and there would have been more foreground interest here.

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And in this corner, hopefully it would have been signed

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"Abraham Cooper", you know, 1840, or something like that.

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-It would have been nice.

-It would have been very nice,

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-then you would have been looking at £2,500.

-Shame, still, it's nice.

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Value-wise, it's a hard one

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cos I want you to make as much money as possible.

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I think if we put this into auction with £600-£900 on it,

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I don't think we're gonna get a sniff.

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I think we've got to tempt people in.

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Are you happy with £400-£600?

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-We'll try it.

-And I'd like to put a fixed reserve of £400 on this,

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so you're not gonna lose any money.

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And hopefully we'll get the £400-£600,

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and we'll get that top end.

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-It's about time it moved on, yeah.

-OK. That's fine.

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-How are you doing, James, all right?

-Fine, thank you, you?

-Yep.

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-How long have you had this, then?

-My father had it in about the 1940s.

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When I was about five years old.

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-I remember it.

-You've just told everybody how old you are now!

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I know, it's not a problem.

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-Did he enjoy a drink?

-Yes.

-He did.

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So what would he have kept in here?

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Three different sorts of malt?

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-He probably would because he used to have pubs as well.

-Really?

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Do you know what this is called?

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A tantalus.

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-Why's it called a tantalus?

-I've no idea.

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-Cos it tantalises you and you can't get the booze out.

-Right.

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But it's interesting cos there's more going on in this one

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than you'd normally expect to find.

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So if we open it up, clearly,

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these cupboards here form the locking device because when they're shut,

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you can't get the decanters out.

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So let's just open it up...

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And now, of course,

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out your decanter comes out.

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-But there's a lot more going on here, isn't there?

-Oh, yes.

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This is quite interesting. That is for lighting a cigar.

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Possibly, yeah.

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And this little beast here,

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that's a cigar-cutter.

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You put the end of your cigar in there, and then bang.

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And let's just pull this draw out here and have a look...

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Look at that!

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Now, we've got a pegging board there, look,

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-that's quite nice in its own right, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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Playing cards would have fitted in here.

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And quite what would have gone there, I'm unsure.

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So, it's a tantalus, with a games compendium here as well.

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You fall between two stalls a little bit really, because this is oak.

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Early tantaluses in mahogany or rosewood

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are much more sought-after than the oak version.

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A normal oak version might only be £80-£120,

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but the very fact that this has got all of this going on,

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and our games compendium as well,

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I think that's going to lift that up to possibly £200-£300,

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perhaps a little bit more.

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And I think you need to put a fixed reserve on it,

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-of about 180. How does that sound to you?

-That's fine.

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-So it's gonna go?

-Yes.

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And if it makes 200 quid, what are you going to spend that on?

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Probably give it to my daughter.

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What will she do with it?

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-She'll soon find a way to get rid of it.

-She's a spender, is she?

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Well, yes, handbags.

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-Handbags?! Oh, my life! So this is going for a handbag.

-Or two!

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Absolute travesty, absolute travesty!

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-That's the way it is.

-Let's just hope it sells really well.

-OK.

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Now it's time for our first visit to the saleroom,

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so let's remind ourselves of what we're taking.

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Dorothy's canny £1 buy should see a great return at auction.

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And I'm sure there will be plenty of bidders

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whose decor will suit Dorothy's beautiful statue.

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And it's amazing what you can find in a skip these days.

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So I'll be hoping for the right collectors in the saleroom

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on the day to buy Cedric's painting.

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And finally, because it's functional,

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James's oak tantalus should do very well.

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I can feel excitement in the air, tension is building,

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have our experts got their valuations right?

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We're just about to find out,

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because it's auction time on the rostrum,

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we have two auctioneers today, Kevin Kendall and David Brooks.

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First, I wonder what Kevin Kendall

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thinks of Cedric's canine composition?

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I like this a lot. I took this painting in, I'm a dog lover,

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and thank goodness the dogs are in chase, they haven't got to the kill.

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I'd have said, "No, don't want that, I don't think it's gonna sell!"

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It belongs to Cedric,

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a great story behind this because he found it in a skip...

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-Right.

-..on a building site some 30-odd years ago.

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He's looked after it, he likes looking at it,

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recently he had it restored and paid £300 on restoration.

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I personally think they've over-restored it,

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they've mounted it on the wrong kind of plywood, it's far too thick.

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And they've kind have taken the love out of it, for me.

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But he wants his money back,

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so we're gonna try and get him £400-£600 for this.

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Yeah, I think we could struggle.

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It's catalogued in the style of Abraham Cooper.

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If it had been an original Abraham Cooper,

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then we're talking several thousands,

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but I think we'll struggle to get several hundred.

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It's pretty typical, naive style, and could be painted by anybody.

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Exactly. It's got something about it though,

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that sort of linear look.

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I mean, when you look at it to start with, it looks like a sort of 1930s,

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it looks like that, but it is earlier.

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But it has been cut down from a larger painting.

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And he's adamant he wants 400 quid, so...

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It's a nice subject,

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-so with the wind behind it, we could just about get there.

-I hope so.

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With Kevin Kendall weaving his magic on the rostrum,

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and this guy is so good, they named the town after him,

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it's got to sell!

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From £1 hopefully to £50,

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that's what we're hoping for with Dorothy's little pin cushion.

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A nice little love token. I love the anchors and the hearts.

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You found this, didn't you recently? You'd forgotten you had it.

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It was in the cupboard, yes.

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I did buy it quite a while ago.

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About 30 years ago.

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That was a good spot though.

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-Yes.

-Mind you, £1 was a lot of money back then,

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-but it's gone up considerably.

-£1 a year.

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Hopefully, if we get the top end, a little bit more.

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-£1.50, £1.80.

-Now we're talking!

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-That would be rocking, flying away!

-That would be very good.

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-It'll do well.

-It should do.

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Lot 60, a very nice lot, the Victorian sailor's memento cushion.

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No pressure.

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A very nice lot. Some old romantic would have made this as a gift.

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And we have interest in it. Romance isn't dead.

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We start the bidding, with me, at £40. £40 bid.

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45. 48. £50 now. 50, bid.

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£50. Are we all done this time?

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We sell away this time.

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At 50.

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-I make that a good profit.

-Yes.

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You're not bad at this, are you?

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I should be on the rostrum, shouldn't I?

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-I tell you...

-You ought to be on the telly!

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Next stop, a beautiful, Art Nouveau, alabaster maiden

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with little butterfly wings.

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Value - £300 to £500.

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Brought in by Dorothy and Edna, here, also,

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equally as beautiful, aren't you both?!

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I think this is going to sell well, up here.

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I know I'm tempting fate, anything can happen.

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This is what keeps us going. This is where the tension is.

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We're experiencing it right now.

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Good luck. It's been a long wait.

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We've got lots of bidders here though and they're keen to buy.

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This is it.

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Lot 353 is the alabaster figure bust.

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The young maiden with the dragonfly dress. 500, surely.

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500, somebody will.

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5. We'll start at 250 bid then. 250.

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280. 280. 280. 300 on the telephone.

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300 bid. 300 bid. 300 bid.

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300 bid. That wasn't a bid, was it?

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No? 300. 300.

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300. 300 is on the telephone.

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No further interest, we'll sell then at 300.

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Well, they've gone, that's sold.

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Do you know, there was a guy on the telephone,

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he'd be prepared to push that bid possibly to the £400 mark.

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But there was no-one in the room to bid against him.

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-I think he was keener, you know...

-I'm quite pleased with that.

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Well, we sold it anyway, didn't we?

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OK, it's my turn to be the expert now.

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Remember the dog chase, well, time is up.

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Hare today, gone tomorrow, let's hope that rings true!

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That's all I can say. £400 to £600.

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I've had a chat to Kevin just before the sale started.

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He thinks it might struggle, but you just don't know with auction rooms.

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I understand why you want a fixed reserve at 400.

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It means a lot to you. You've enjoyed it. You've had it 30 years

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-and you spent money on it.

-Well, if no go, it's going back home.

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Makes me feel a lot better anyway,

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cos it's an awful moment if things don't sell.

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But fingers crossed this one will. Here we go.

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Lot number 409, the oil on board, in the style of Abraham Cooper,

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not signed, still a nice painting all the same.

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600, somewhere.

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Six, four, start lower then, start sensible, £300 bid.

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£300 bid. 300 bid.

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300 bid. 320. 320. 320. 320, now.

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We're stuck on 320.

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320. 40, yes? 340. 340.

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350 now. 350, all done?

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350. At 350, I'm afraid that's reserved, we can't sell that today.

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Not quite.

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-Three bids away.

-Oh, well. It's the way it goes, isn't it?

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Yeah. It's going home. At least you can enjoy it.

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Yes. Try again some time.

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-And it's had an airing on telly.

-When the dogs are back in fashion!

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That's the spirit!

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# Dankeschon Darling, Dankeschon

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# Dankeschon... #

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James, this is an absolutely cracking tantalus.

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Remember the tantalus Philip spotted at the valuation day?

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It's about to go under the hammer.

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We've got £200 to £300 valuation put on this,

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but it really is a Rolls-Royce version.

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It's got the lighter, it's got the cigar cutter,

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it's got everything going for it.

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I think it will be well sought-after.

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You don't see too many with all of those fittings to it,

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-so it should do very well.

-All of the bells and whistles.

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-Do you enjoy a drink, James?

-Yes,

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but I don't have a dining room any longer, so it's nowhere to stand now.

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Some one that does drink in excess is our Phil.

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THEY LAUGH

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Erm...I'm not sure I'm in a position to argue with that one,

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Paul, but that was rather hurtful, actually.

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75 is the tantalus, with the cigar cutter and the games drawer,

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so you've got smoking, drinking and gambling.

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The recipe for a good night!

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We'll start the bidding with me at 150. 150. 160.

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For somebody with a lot of vices.

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180. 190, I'll take. 190. 200. 200.

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200. 200. 200, we're going to sell-on commission.

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220 at the back. 220.

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220 we're selling at this time, at 220.

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Very, very odd, because that was quality.

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Could have done more, but it didn't.

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That's auctions for you, some days they're cracking,

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other days they're a little bit disappointing,

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but we've got £220 on the hammer. I think that's a good result.

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Thank you. Thank you very much.

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Looking at this soaring building

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with its domed roof and its lofty towers, you'd be forgiven

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for thinking we'd travelled to India, but we haven't.

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We're in Lancaster. And this is the Ashton Memorial.

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It's known to the locals as the Taj Mahal of the North.

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In keeping with the romantic story of the original Taj Mahal,

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this fine Edwardian edifice was built to commemorate a family tragedy.

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James Williamson, Lord Ashton, built it between 1907 and 1909

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on this highest point above Lancaster City, here in Williamson Park.

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Now, who would have thought that this modest, unassuming-looking figure

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could have been capable of such a grand romantic gesture?

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Lord Ashton had originally planned a statue of Queen Victoria on this very spot.

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But after losing two wives, Jessie and Margaret and a daughter, Maud,

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he decided instead to have this incredible building built in memory of them all.

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CHORAL MUSIC PLAYS

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So, let's go and find local historian, Sue Ashworth,

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who's going to tell me a little bit more about Lord Ashton and his touching story.

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So, Sue, what can you tell me about Lord Ashton?

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What sort of chap was he?

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Well, as a businessman, fantastically astute.

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-Was he?

-Hard-hitting.

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Made an awful lot of money.

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By the time he'd died, he'd made £10.5m.

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Oh, that's a lot of money.

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-My word!

-As a private man, we know virtually nothing.

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He kept very much to himself.

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And even where he was giving buildings and statues to the town,

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he wouldn't have a ceremony to unveil them.

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-Wouldn't he?

-No, they were all unveiled privately.

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Who designed this extraordinary building behind us?

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-A fantastic building.

-Incredible.

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Lord Ashton was very happy to go to London architects and artists to help with his grand designs.

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After all, he did have a London house.

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So, he brought in Sir John Belcher, who was president of the Royal Institute of Architects.

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So do you think it may have been inspired slightly by the Taj Mahal?

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Well, it could be. It's certainly linked with, as far as we know,

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losses in his family, so there's a personal and maybe a romantic link.

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Hard to know how romantic he was, but that would be a lovely idea.

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It's slightly reminiscent of St Paul's Cathedral, with the big domed roof.

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Indeed, certainly, Belcher was working in that Edwardian, baroque, very confident style.

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And yes, I think that's quite close to the mark.

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But it's very dramatic here, overlooking this wonderful landscape.

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Yes, it's a fantastic piece on the landscape, and everybody sees it from miles away.

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A great backdrop, isn't it?

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For Sir John Belcher, it turned out to be the biggest challenge of his career.

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And the result was much admired by his contemporaries.

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They couldn't believe he'd been given free rein

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to design the most sumptuous building of his career -

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a grandiose folly with no obvious function.

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It was built by Gillows, the famous Lancaster firm,

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renowned for its cabinet making with exotic hardwoods.

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You couldn't get any further away from that, could you? Just look at this.

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In the past, the local press described this as a poem built in stone,

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and I think that's such a fitting tribute.

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To me, it's like a cathedral, floating in the sky -

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beautiful, symmetrical proportions.

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The gleaming facades are of Cornish granite and Portland stone,

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painstakingly brought up from the West country, hundreds of miles away.

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And the main steps to the building are all of Derbyshire limestone.

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In the two-and-a-half years it took to build this, it's recorded that 300 tonnes of worked stone

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was delivered each week by the Ashton Road Yard.

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In 1907, the total cost of the build was £87,000.

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Now that's an incredible amount of money.

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In today's standards that works out as £6.5m.

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While Lord Ashton's memorial to his loved ones may have been seen as somewhat extravagant at the time,

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the local community also benefited greatly from his Lordship's wealth.

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He was a great philanthropist and his legacy can still be seen in the city today.

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He built Lancaster Town Hall and erected a Queen Victoria monument

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next to it, and founded many other public buildings throughout the city including this beautiful palm house

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opposite his great memorial, which you can still visit today.

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Whatever we think of Lord Ashton today, he built beautiful structures just like this one and the memorial.

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And I tell you what, it really is good for the soul in here.

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There are butterflies fluttering everywhere.

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He employed over a quarter of the city's population,

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spent well over £400,000 on the region,

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which is a great deal of money.

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It works out to be round about £30m in today's standards.

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He gave the city of Lancaster great prosperity, redevelopment and hope.

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Look at those beautiful little things.

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It's now time to get back to the valuation day at Lord Ashton's town hall,

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where Anita has found something from his era.

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Cynthia, welcome to Flog It!

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-Thank you.

-This is a lovely wee item. Tell me, where did you get it?

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I got it from my aunt.

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It was left to me when she died, quite a good few years ago.

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It was a present to her from her husband when she first got married.

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So it was a loving gift at that time. And a loving gift again.

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But, tell me, have you worn it?

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-No, I haven't.

-Why not?

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Because I don't think it's my style at all.

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It's probably for somebody a little bit more delicate, I'd say.

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-Well, that's the thing about jewellery, it's such a personal thing.

-It is.

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There are some people who like nice, big, chunky pieces.

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Other people who like things that are a bit more delicate.

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And this is a very delicate and bonny wee thing.

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If we just have a wee look at it, it's made of nine carat gold

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and we have two very light-coloured aquamarine drops and a little seed pearl drop,

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-so it's a very gentle, delicate sort of thing, and I can imagine a young person wearing that.

-Yes.

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I think it would be more suitable for a young person than for someone more mature, like me and you!

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But it's lovely.

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This was, this is an Edwardian pendant, it was made somewhere

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between 1900 and 1910, and has a slight flavour

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of the Art Deco when you look at this round motif here.

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But I think it's pretty.

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Now, price, it's just a very, sort of simple, straightforward type of pendant.

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And I'd say, probably 60, in the region of 60, 70,

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and even then, I may be pushing it a wee bit.

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But if we put 60 to 80 on it.

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Yes, that would be fine.

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A reserve of 50. Now would you be happy with that?

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-Yes, I think so, yes.

-OK.

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I'll be holding your hand at the auction.

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-We'll hope that it's really well fancied there.

-Let's hope so.

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And we'll enjoy the day. Thank you for bringing it along.

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Thank you. It's a pleasure.

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Sandra, Martin, how are you doing?

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-All right, thank you.

-Locals?

-Yes.

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-Lancastrians?

-I was born in Lancaster, yes.

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-Oh, right. It's nice round here.

-Lovely.

-Great building.

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What I love is, people bring these things along

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and that could be 101 different things in there.

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It could be a little empty box, it could be a rouge box,

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it could have a seal in there, and we've got no idea.

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When we look at it from the top, initially it looks like it's made out of yew wood.

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You have very light flecks in yew wood occasionally,

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but I am absolutely convinced that's boxwood, rather than yew wood.

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There's only one way we're going to find out what's inside.

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Yes.

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Let's take the lid off.

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Oh, wow.

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So this is a compass. Yes?

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-Yes, I'm sure it's a compass.

-It's not.

-Oh.

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-Right.

-Right!

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It's a compass sundial, OK?

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So you put this down and it's actually self-orientating

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so that it finds north.

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And then the sun casts a shadow, and the shadow tells you the time.

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-Right.

-But what's interesting is in different times of the year you've got to make adjustments.

-Yeah.

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And here we can see we've got a table for all those adjustments.

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-Yeah.

-These things were popular, I would think, in the first half of the 19th century.

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I think it's a great little thing. How did you come by it?

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My grandmother died about 27 years ago and my mother said, "What do you want?"

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Ornaments, and... I presume Martin said, "I'd like that."

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-Why would your grandmother have a sundial?

-Don't know.

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Was it just one of those things in a box and no-one knew it was there?

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-I think she had it in a display cabinet.

-She knew what it was.

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She treasured it.

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-Yes.

-It wasn't stuffed in a drawer?

-Oh, no.

-And one of you two chose it and you don't know why.

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No. Just liked it.

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I think it's absolutely lovely.

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Do you think it's worth a lot?

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I wouldn't like to say. 80 or £90?

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You're not far off the mark. I think we ought to put a 120-180 estimate on this.

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It might do a lot better than that.

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We'll put a reserve on it of £100.

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I just think it's a nice thing.

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-Are you happy with that?

-Absolutely happy.

-Let's hope that time flies at the auction.

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Let's hope so.

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Angela, thank you for giving me this opportunity to talk to you about this picture.

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When I saw it earlier on, I was drawn to it.

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I love this industrial landscape.

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When I looked to see who the artist was, and it was Trevor Grimshaw,

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I hadn't heard of the artist.

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We did a wee bit of research and I do believe that his work is coming up in auction now.

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But I would be delighted if you could tell me a bit about him.

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Right, well, Trevor...

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I knew Trevor when I was a teenager.

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He went to Stockport Art College before I did.

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He was about five years ahead of me. My mother thought the gang he hung around with was very racy

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and the reason she thought they were racy was because he didn't wear any socks!

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I was told, "Don't have anything to do with them.

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"They'll get you into trouble." I got into trouble without any help at all from Trevor Grimshaw.

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What he did was he always did Northern scenes and he always did them in pencil.

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-Is this all the one area?

-No, this is different areas.

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It was Ashton-under-Lyne, Dukinfield, and Hyde, and some in Salford, that he'd worked on.

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-He brought all these elements together to put into one work?

-Yes.

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Even the North of England hasn't got that many mills in that much space.

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I love art and Trevor would say, "I've got this.

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"Do you want it?" I would say, "Oh, yes, please."

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My husband never had to do any decorating because the walls were full of pictures.

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That's absolutely marvellous.

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So what we have is this large drawing here and we have two smaller ones.

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And this wonderful portrait.

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This is a wonderful portrait.

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Which I would never part with. The others, yes, but this one I couldn't possibly.

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-Do you know who it is?

-I seem to remember it was T S Eliot.

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Trevor, this was the only portrait he ever did,

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and he said he would never do another one,

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despite all this work, because that one took so long for him to do.

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It was so precise and it took so long and it was never right.

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Why do you want to sell these works, Angela?

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I started off with a big house and now I'm in a small house

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and now I'm moving into an even smaller house and I need a new kitchen.

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We'll do our best. What I suggest, Angela...

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-You want to keep the portrait.

-Yes.

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I suggest we put the big one in at £400-£600. Would you feel happy at that?

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As long as it's got a reserve for 400, I'm fine.

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We could put the two little ones in at 150-250, with a reserve of 150.

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It doesn't matter at all if they don't sell, I'm quite happy.

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It's very Northern and this is where we are.

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You know, it's part of our past that we're never going to see again.

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-It's part of our history.

-Yes.

-Thank you very much once again for bringing them along.

-Thank you.

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It's now time for our second visit to the auction rooms,

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so let's remind ourselves what's going under the hammer.

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Kay's pretty Edwardian pendant should attract plenty of bidders in the saleroom.

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Let's hope the weather is fair for Sandra and Martin's unusual sundial.

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And finally I'm confident that Angela will be able to start

0:35:590:36:02

her new kitchen with the proceeds of Trevor Grimshaw's painting.

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Perhaps she'll also be able to run to a pair of socks for him!

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Cynthia, any regrets? We're right here in the saleroom.

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There's no turning back. This was your aunt's necklace.

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-It was.

-You don't wear it?

0:36:220:36:25

-No, I don't.

-You'd rather have the £60-£80 in cash?

0:36:250:36:28

Yes, I'm going to buy some jewellery.

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Are you? Sell some jewellery to buy some jewellery.

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Someone who would like this... is our Anita.

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It's kind of understated.

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I like it very much.

0:36:370:36:40

I love that period.

0:36:400:36:42

It's the beginning of the 20th century, looking towards Art Nouveau, maybe a wee glance at Art Deco.

0:36:420:36:48

It's very pretty, very simple, and I hope it does well.

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Lot 244. Yellow metal pendant set with aquamarine and seed pearl.

0:36:520:36:56

Pretty thing.

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I've commission interest. I can start the bidding with me at £30.

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-35, 40.

-We're in at 30.

-45, 50.

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55. Commissions are out.

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-55 in the room now. 60, fresh bid.

-It's gone.

-It's against you.

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65. With the gentleman now at £65.

0:37:110:37:14

-Bit more.

-I'm selling, make no mistake.

0:37:140:37:17

It's gone.

0:37:170:37:19

-£65.

-Not bad.

0:37:190:37:22

-That's not bad, is it? Spot-on.

-I think it's fine.

0:37:220:37:25

We're gonna point you in the right direction now because I've just been joined by Sandra and Martin

0:37:300:37:36

and this is absolutely divine. It's a little sundial.

0:37:360:37:39

You've got to find north but then you can tell the time.

0:37:390:37:42

Do you know, if this was mine, I wouldn't be flogging this.

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This is a keeper.

0:37:460:37:49

-But it's got to go, hasn't it?

-It has.

0:37:490:37:51

We're raising funds. What for?

0:37:510:37:53

Our daughter's wedding.

0:37:530:37:55

Congratulations.

0:37:550:37:56

-What's her name?

-Zara.

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-And what's the lucky guy?

-John.

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So is this going to be a new hat or is it going towards the cost?

0:38:000:38:04

The cost of the wedding, the reception.

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Philip, this could do a little bit more than your top end.

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-I have to say that I'd miss a course at the reception and keep this.

-So would I.

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Good luck. We've both enjoyed looking at this.

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I'm sure it's going to find a collector here and make lots of money. For the big day.

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Right now, this is your big day.

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-Good luck.

-Now we have lot 94 which is the 19th century pocket sundial.

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I'll start the bidding with me at £90 only. £90 bid with me. 90 bid.

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100. 100. 110, sir? 110. 110?

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110 only this time. At 110.

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Oh!

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I was expecting 200 quid for that.

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We aren't allowed to bid on things

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but of all the things I see on Flog It! that's one thing

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I would have loved to own and I would have loved to bid on that.

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I don't think that's...

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You could argue, why didn't I put more money on it?

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I think you have to put an estimate of 100-200 to sell it.

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I think it's worth that sort of sum and then you get the competition of the auction room.

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But I think that was disappointing.

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Well, it's better than nothing.

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It's gone. And it's going towards that big day. Good luck, Martin.

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-Good luck as well.

-Thank you very much.

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I love this next lot.

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There's two of them, Trevor Grimshaw paintings. Monochromatic.

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Both belonging to Angela.

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You went to art college with the guy.

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He went a little time before I did.

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-But you were there!

-I was there.

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I saw the guy. I knew him very well.

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-Mr No-Socks.

-I wondered if you had socks on today.

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It's a lovely little collection you brought in. I like the portrait. You hung on to that one.

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That was gorgeous. The larger one, that's a mill-scape, that's really nice.

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400-600, and there's two in the next lot.

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We've got a conservative estimate.

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We could punch through the roof on these.

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We could. I've done a little bit of research since the valuation day.

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This artist is doing well in auction.

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He had a retrospective exhibition in Stockport Art Gallery in 2004.

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His works are coming onto the market and they are reaching good prices.

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The sale will be on the internet so let's hope they pick up that name.

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Exactly. This will have a worldwide audience.

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As Anita said, anybody that understands art and knows about art,

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the next name to buy for is always the big catch.

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Buy at the right time, sell at the right time.

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-Maybe this is the right investment.

-Crossed fingers then.

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Let's hope we get more than £600.

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-Super.

-It would make your day, wouldn't it?

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-It would!

-Gosh. You've got a lot more at home.

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-This is it.

-Don't tell anyone!

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396 is the first of the Trevor Grimshaw lots. Signed and dated.

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What can I ask for a start on this lot? 500, surely.

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Four? Start me at 300 bid. £300. £300 on the bid. 320 at the back.

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320. 340.

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360. 380.

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400. 400.

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20 on the phone if you can? 420.

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-440.

-It's creeping up.

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-It is.

-460 on the phone. Are we going to sell?

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Have you all done this time? At 460.

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Yes. Mid-estimate. That's OK.

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Good start. Here's the next one.

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Lot number 397. Again, Trevor Grimshaw.

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A pair this time. Yes. I have bids on the book as well

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as the phone and I have to start at £150.

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Straight in at 150.

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-160. 170. 180. 190.

-They're keen.

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200. 200. I'm going to sell.

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If you're all done this time at 200...

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Yes! Sold.

0:41:460:41:48

-That's excellent, Angela.

-Yes.

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-£660.

-Well worked out, very quickly.

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I always work money out!

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The owners always do!

0:41:540:41:56

-That's a good result.

-Super.

-You've got to be pleased with that.

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I am, I'm really pleased with that.

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There's commission to pay on this, it's 15% here but anything over £500, it's 10%.

0:42:020:42:07

That's good. Oh, but...

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I don't know how you stand because you sold in two separate lots

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but I'm pretty sure they might do a favour for you.

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That would be good.

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What will you put the money towards?

0:42:160:42:18

I could tell you it's going to a kitchen but it's not.

0:42:180:42:21

I need some new bumpers for my car.

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-Do you? Have you been parking badly?

-I'm not a very good parker.

0:42:230:42:28

I sort of abandon but somebody reversed into me so I need two new bumpers, front and back.

0:42:280:42:33

-That'll sort that out.

-Just about.

0:42:330:42:36

Yeah. Just about.

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Very unromantic, isn't it?

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Everyone else is going on holiday and I need two new bumpers!

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That's it. It's all over for our owners and what can I say?

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It has been a tough day but our experts did extremely well.

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We've had some highs and some lows.

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But the high for me definitely had to be tempting everybody's palate with the Trevor Grimshaw paintings

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belonging to Carole selling for a staggering £660.

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Something worth investing in. Look out for his name.

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