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Experts Charlie Ross and Philip Serrell peruse possessions in Tenby, while presenter Paul Martin finds out about the age-old Welsh tradition of making love spoons.


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We've got sun, sand and sea here in Tenby and hopefully plenty

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of surprises, so welcome to Flog It!

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This pretty little town is in South West Wales and not only is it

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a magnet for the tourists, it also has its own small fishing industry.

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The tourists began to flock here in the early Victorian period,

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when its stunning beaches and invigorating sea air

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were considered the ideal cure for many ailments and diseases.

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Well, I wish I was here to relax, but today's experts,

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Charlie Ross and Philip Serral are probably already dipping the cue

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looking for the best antiques to take off to auction

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and not letting me have a look in.

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I bet, so I think I'd better get over there and join them and start

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looking for some seaside souvenirs of my own before they run out.

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# We want the new traditions

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# Woah, oh, woah, oh, oh

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# It's like a revelation

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# Woah, oh, woah, oh, oh

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# We live on... #

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And first to the table in the De Valance Pavilion is

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Charlie Ross and it looks as though he's found something rather special.

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Deanne, I think we can undoubtedly give you the prize

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for the oldest thing on Flog It today,

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-if not ever.

-Me or this?

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THEY LAUGH

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Well, not unless you were born in 1648,

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1648 this is, how did you get it?

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I had an elderly neighbour who I used to do her garden for her,

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and she'd owned an antique shop in London.

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-Really?

-In the 1920s.

-Do you know where abouts?

-In St Christopher Place.

-Right.

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And one day she said to me, would you like this?

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So I've had it since then and it's been in a trunk in

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my house for the last 30 years and when I saw you were here today, I thought, I'll take that.

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-A chance to get rid of it. Have you ever read it all?

-I have.

-Yeah, what's it about?

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It's about bronzing a coat of arms for this,

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I think it's Coiland Sinclair.

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I think it's Coland, I've been looking at that. I think it's Coland Sinclair.

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-I think that is a C, although very fancy.

-It is.

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It looks like a curtain doesn't it, coming around here. Coland Sinclair.

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-And it's the granting of a coat of arms to him, that family.

-Yes.

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What I think is really interesting is the date, which is 1648.

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One year,

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in fact it was January 1649, that Charles I lost his head

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because it says in the form of 20th year the reign

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of our Sovereign Lord, King Charles of England.

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I'm absolutely sure it's authentic.

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It's definitely on vellum,

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which is a calf skin, you can feel the texture of it.

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Secondly, the decoration is real.

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I mean, it isn't printed on, any other shape or form.

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It's actually painted on.

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And this, presumably, if we had time to look it up, would be the Sinclair coat of arms.

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-I would have thought so.

-Which would still be going today, no doubt.

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When you dug it out of the box it was in,

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did you have an idea of what it might be worth?

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No, no. Because I've moved house, it's actually in the garage,

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-in the trunk.

-So it's not doing any good in the trunk is it?

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-No it isn't.

-My view is that it is worth 50 to £100,

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but it's a bit of a guess.

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Certainly not worth hundreds of pounds, but it must have a value because of its age

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and its relative quality,

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so 50 to £100 and we'll sell it without reserve?

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I know Paul gets very cross when I sell things without reserve.

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No, I don't want to upset Paul.

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Bother it, we'll upset Paul. Let's sell it without reserve.

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SHE LAUGHS

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-So it's Angharad and Barth, where does that come from, then?

-From Kosovo.

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Kosovo, right. So you've brought mum along today, have you? Has she behaved herself?

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We think so!

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-So, you brought this along to sell?

-Yes.

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I'm going to need a bit of help here,

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because I'm not sure I can manage this on my own, what is this made of?

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-Leather.

-Leather, and what would you have kept in there?

-A gun.

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Excellent, what a man, what a man.

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We'll go into a bit more detail but leave that to me.

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This is called a leg-o-mutton and it's a leather gun case

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and you would keep a 12 bore shotgun in here and if you

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can imagine a 12 bore shotgun, the bit of wood in front of the

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trigger, called the fore-end, you take that off, then open the gun and take the barrels off.

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The stop part of the trigger would go in this bit

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and the barrels would go in that bit and you would shut it up

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and off you'd go, carrying your gun around and in your leather, leg-o-mutton gun case.

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-Have you had it long?

-No, a few months.

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A few months? Why only a few months?

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Just bought it at a local sale, thought it was nice,

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I liked the leather and condition of it.

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-What did you pay for this?

-Erm, would have worked out at £17, two for 34.

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-Well, I had a word with my colleague earlier, didn't I, and what do we think this is worth?

-50.

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£50, yeah, I think that's probably what we thought.

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-We think this probably worth £50, but we're going to put an estimate on it of 30 to £50.

-Yeah.

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And we'll put a reserve of about £25,

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but I think we'll it'll sell quite well, are you happy with that?

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-Yeah, that'll be great.

-Who gets the money?

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I think Barth can have the money.

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And what will he spend the money on?

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Chocolate probably.

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Fingers crossed, can you do that?

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Well done, matey. Funny man, this television man isn't he?

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Francis, there's one thing missing.

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-What's that?

-A nice bottle of wine.

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Oh, my goodness!

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THEY LAUGH

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You were thinking, what's dropped off?

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-I feel like a nice peppery Bordeaux right now.

-Do you?

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So, I gather you're a bit of a corkscrew collector?

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I like corkscrews, they've given us a lot of fun, my wife and I have

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been to many, many corkscrew collectors meetings.

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-How many have you got?

-About 100.

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I bow to your knowledge, if you've got over 100 you must have done lots of research?

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Yes, I have and I've enjoyed the whole research on corkscrews, it's been great.

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This is surplus to my requirements, really.

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So you're flogging off something from the lower end of the collection? Always trading upwards.

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-Always trading upwards, that's it.

-You know the score, don't you? Always buy the best you can afford.

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I'm looking for a maker's name, it's not signed.

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-Sadly not, no.

-That's where the value is in a corkscrew.

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It would've been made, probably in Birmingham,

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there were lots of factories in Birmingham in the 1830s, 40s, 50s, making this type of thing.

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As you know, it's a Thomason type, with this mechanical working.

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Yes, invented by Sir Edward Thomason.

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Typical nice steelwork and that does all the work.

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You can see it's survived the years.

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Great quality, Victorian quality at it's best.

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-It looks 1820s or 30s with that handle, which is a detail you will find.

-That's nice, isn't it?

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-It's a nice turned-bone handle.

-Very nice.

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Dusting-off brush which adds a bit of value.

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You can have a drink and a shave at the same time. Why not!

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THEY LAUGH

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It's of brass construction, I like the armorial that's the coat

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of arms of Queen Victoria, so this dates this around about 1840.

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That sort of era, yes.

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It's beautiful, it's a nice thing to hold, it is a gentleman's toy.

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Yeah, it's a very nice thing, this is what first attracted me

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to corkscrews, very nice, tactile things and associated with wine...

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-Which is what you love!

-Exactly!

-THEY LAUGH

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I must admit, I'm with you on that one.

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-Are you?

-Yeah, if we could attribute this to a maker, that's where

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the value is, it'd be worth in the region of two to £300. But we can't.

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I still think it's worth in the region of 130 to £150, somewhere around there.

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But put a reserve on at 100.

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-100, OK, fine.

-Fixed reserve at 100.

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-Happy with that?

-Yeah, I'm happy.

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Richard I know what should be in there and I'm certain it is,

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because I've lifted it up. I know the weight of it. Where did it come from?

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Well, it was found in my father's house, he died about 10 years ago.

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My wife and I were sorting around his stuff and she found it at the bottom of a cupboard

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under a lot of linen and I had never see it before and we really know nothing about its history.

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Right, well we can tell you all about it. Have you used it all?

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Oh, yes, it works reasonably well.

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I had it on my desk for a couple of years and then it started to lose

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time and I got a bit fed up of it so I put it in its box and hid it away.

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I'm expecting to find a carriage clock in here, I'm sure I will.

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There is a little button that releases the top.

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What you can do is leave it in its case and still have the benefit of the clock itself, carriage clock as

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it is, by just pulling that panel up there

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and a slot in the back to put it in. Isn't that neat?

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-Very nice.

-Let me just pull it out.

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Ah, now this is a very special carriage clock.

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It's got three wonderful panels.

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We'll come to those in a minute.

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Now, the case itself is brass.

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I expect the case is made in England.

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I expect the movement to be French

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and the panels, that I mentioned briefly, are petra dura,

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hard stone, literally translated from the Italian.

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They are panels from Italy.

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And it's a miniature carriage clock and I think it's absolutely sweet.

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I can see that there is a little bit of damage on the back panel here.

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That is an expensive job to do.

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Somebody doing this will need to repair that, otherwise, bit by bit,

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the pieces of stone will fall out and you'll be left with nothing.

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But, the side panel is absolutely perfect.

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-Did you think about the value of it while you had it tucked away?

-Well, it's a nice looking thing.

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I would say that it has value because it's pretty,

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but I know that it is not in terribly good condition.

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It's just that last panel, that back panel of petra dura.

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I think it's worth, well it would be worth

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three to 500 all day long in perfect condition.

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I really think two to 300 is the right estimate,

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reserve at 200 and the auctioneer should work hard

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on this because I think it will certainly be, even if there's

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-six carriage clocks in his sale, it'll be the best carriage clock at his auction.

-Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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And before we head off to auction, it's time for a little reminder

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of what we are taking with us.

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The document is certainly old,

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but will its age be reflected in the price?

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I hope the gun case makes the £50 as Barth predicted.

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He could be an auctioneer of the future.

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The corkscrew is a lovely item, so let's hope

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someone in the saleroom agrees and wants to add it to their collection.

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I've got high hopes for Richard's carriage clock

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at two to £300 this could be the time to buy it.

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We've left sunny Tenby behind and we've come here,

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to Carmarthen to Peter Francis Auctioneers,

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where I hope the sun is still shining on our expert's valuations

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and our owner's items, as they go under the hammer.

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We have two auctioneers taking the rostrum for us today, Nigel Hodgson and Jeff Thomas.

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Something for the purists. This is the oldest thing in the show.

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Possibly one of the oldest things we've ever had.

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Dated 1648, the King Charles I parchment

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and it belongs to Deanne here, and hopefully for not much longer.

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-Well, it's going to sell, there is no reserve on this.

-That's true.

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And guess who got that in?

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-I can't possibly imagine.

-THEY LAUGH

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Who likes sneaking those in?

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Lot 659 is the 17th Century parchment

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or perhaps vellum document and dated 4 July 1648.

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-Some interest here.

-Oh, good.

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I have two bidders which start me at 160.

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Wow! That's good.

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£200 I'm bid, £200 I'm bid with me,

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at 200, can I say 220 anywhere else?

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Selling it then, all happy?

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-Selling at £200!

-Yay!

-Wow!

-Extraordinary!

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I didn't think it would sell.

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-That was short and sweet, wasn't it?

-I know, but even so...

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No reserve you see, so it kind of puts you in a down mood to start with.

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-He said you'd be annoyed if he put no reserve on it.

-Yeah.

-I said I don't want to annoy you!

-Oh, oh!

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It's now time to introduce you to Angharad and Barth. Hi, there.

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He is our youngest valuer on the show.

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You know what, I think he's going to be good when he grows up.

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-How much is this going for?

-£50.

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£50!

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Well, it's leather gun case, the leg-o-mutton, isn't really, by virtue of its shape?

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We did a valuation of around 30-£50.

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That's what Barth told me and I think he's probably right. I think it'll do very well.

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-Do you?

-He's promised me a high five at the end.

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Has he? Well, let's hope we get a big high five £50 for this.

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It's now all down to the auctioneer and he's over there on the rostrum.

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43 is a mid 20th century, leather, leg-o-mutton gun case.

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£50 start me, 50?

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50, 30, £30,

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20 to go, no-one wants it, surely. £20, 20 I have.

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At £20, I bid 30, at 30, £30, 40,

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at 30 then, goes then at £30.

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-Yes! Well done, spot on, Philip.

-It's five, but not a high five.

-Yeah. A high 30.

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OK, now it's my turn to be the expert.

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Remember that lovely little corkscrew? The Victorian one.

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Well, it's going under the hammer. I've been joined by Francis, its owner.

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-Thank you, Paul.

-Hopefully we'll get the top end of the estimate.

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-I hope so.

-There are a couple of other corkscrews here.

-I know.

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-Competition.

-But that's good because it brings in the dealers. There is a few for them to choose from.

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-Good, good.

-And obviously if we get that top end, then you are going home with a bottle of wine.

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I would hope so. I'm going to trade wine for wine on this occasion. THEY LAUGH

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458, an early 19th century, Thomason patented,

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telescopic brass and steel corkscrew.

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-9 inch, fully extended.

-It's a nice thing, it's a gentleman's toy, this.

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-Indeed.

-And very practical as well.

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And it could tell a few stories I suspect.

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100 to start me, 100? 80?

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-£80, £50, £50. As low as that?

-Come on.

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At 50, £50, 60 surely now, at 50, £50 I bid, 60, £60.

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-Struggling, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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£70 bid, at 70, 80, do I hear now?

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-At 70, £70, are you all done then?

-Oh, dear, never mind.

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At 70, bit disappointing. At 70, you all done?

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At £70, well I'm very sorry, we have to pass it.

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-Oh, well.

-There we are.

-We got all excited for nothing.

-Yes.

-Oh, dear.

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That's unusual because I had a chat to the auctioneer and he said

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no problem because they normally mention things if there's a problem.

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If he thinks they're not going to sell, he knows the market,

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he'll say, "Paul, I think it's going to struggle."

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-Right.

-But he didn't say anything.

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He agreed with the valuation, I guess.

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-Fair enough.

-There were no wine lovers here, like us!

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No. THEY LAUGH

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This lot has got a strong continental flavour. It belongs to Richard.

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A small carriage clock that packs a big price.

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We've got £200-300 put on this by our expert, Charles, here.

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-Spot on.

-Yes, and we're all hoping for that top end, £300.

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-I could see it creeping over the top, actually.

-Yes, so can I.

-He said, hopefully.

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Well, this is what it's all about. This is where the excitement is! Pressure building right now.

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We're bigging this up but you never know what's gonna happen,

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so watch this, because it's going under the hammer now.

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And lot 291, which is the pretty little late 19th century

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gilt brass carriage clock.

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-Absolutely stunning.

-Very pretty little clock and significant interest with me here.

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-Well, good.

-Great.

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The lowest commission bid is £500.

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-What?

-500, 600, 700.

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£750 is what I have with me.

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May I say £800?

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Is there 800 in the room? Any more?

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With me and to be sold, then, happy at £750.

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Straight in and straight out. Blink and you miss it.

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-£750, Richard.

-I can't believe it!

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Well, do you know, it just goes to show how individual that little clock was.

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-There's tears in your eyes, nearly.

-I know. I want it back!

-THEY LAUGH

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One of my great passions in life is wood.

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I love it in the sort of living, organic form.

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But also in its cut and felled form.

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It's incredibly versatile.

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It's beautiful to look at and also wonderfully tactile.

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Not only is it useful for making practical items like tables and chairs,

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you can also make wonderful sentimental items

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like this love spoon which was made right here, just outside Tenby.

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The tradition of making love spoons is believed to have originated in Wales

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and dates as far back as the 17th century.

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Spoons were given as a token of engagement or betrothal.

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And the tradition has lived on.

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And the man who's keeping the tradition very much alive is Kerry Thomas.

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Kerry, thank you very much for meeting up with us today

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and obviously letting me have a go.

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How did you get into this?

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I first heard about the tradition back in 1969 when I was courting.

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I'd heard about the tradition of the love spoon, that it was a token of an engagement.

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And I thought it would be a good idea to make a love spoon to save myself having to buy an engagement ring.

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-Simple as that.

-As simple as that.

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So in fact, the first spoon I ever made was this simple one here,

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and once I carved the spoon, offered it to my girlfriend,

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she accepted it, and that became our first engagement spoon. 1969.

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Your workshop here, it's just wonderful.

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It's good being surrounded by items of folk art.

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I think it's good for your soul.

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It's a lovely material.

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Wood is such a lovely material to work with and I'm privileged, really,

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to be able to make my living from such a lovely material.

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-You've made hundreds of thousands, which I want to talk to you about a little later on.

-OK.

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But can I have a go?

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Can you talk me through it, because I want to make one for my wife,

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so I think this would be a good opportunity to try my skills out.

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-Yes, yes. Let's start.

-With your expert advice.

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I really like that kind of love spoon, which...

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It almost reads like a love letter for the intended.

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-Oh, yes, there's a message.

-There's a message in there.

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We want to try to get a little bit of a message in your spoon, if we can.

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Every spoon is unique.

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The symbols carved on them have specific meanings.

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Often the interpretation and the message

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are relevant only to the recipient.

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Well, it looks a bit rough.

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I've drawn it straight out on a blank of oak here.

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-I hope you approve of this, Kerry.

-Oh, it's excellent.

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I've got nice raised back panel,

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which for me, looks like a piece of furniture.

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There's my hole, I want to hang this on the wall, because I'm very proud of this.

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Well, hopefully I'll be proud of it!

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That's my short "P" for Paul, "C" for Charlotte.

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I've used this motif, I'm going to obviously put a hole in there

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and cut this out with a fretsaw.

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Now that's a soul motif that the ancient Egyptians used.

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I've got keys, that's the key to my heart and also the key to my house.

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I've put an escutcheon so hopefully we can live together

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and hopefully she'll fall in love with that and cherish it.

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I'm sure she will, I'm sure she will.

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-It did the trick for you, didn't it?

-Yeah.

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There, now this hopefully should look something like it. Ah!

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-I'm happy with that. Are you happy?

-Yeah, definitely.

-Is that OK?

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-So far so good, almost there.

-Humble origins. It's getting there.

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It just needs a bit more love and a couple more stages.

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Obviously a smoothing plane on that and lots of sanding.

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You make a spoon every year which is very personal to you.

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It not only records events that are going on in your life

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but also world events.

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-That's correct.

-Can you show me some examples?

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Yes. I obviously started with out engagement spoon

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and from there, we went on to our wedding spoon,

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-and from there we go to 1977.

-Children.

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Various ways to record the birth of a child on a love spoon.

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-With the little balls.

-You can have a link, the name, the seed.

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This is very clever because this is made out of one piece of wood.

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How long did that take you to do?

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Guessing about 60 hours, maybe, at the time.

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-That's a lot of work.

-Yes, at that time.

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1984, this one here records a little bit of what was happening in '84.

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Now that's different.

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You have a picture of a sun, a picture of the rain, on a balance.

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Because in 1984, Bob Geldof started BandAid and LiveAid the following year.

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What we were saying is how fortunate we are, in our country to have a balance of sun and rain.

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Does this open up?

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The word "Grace" interprets god's riches.

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How do you receive god's riches?

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You simply open your heart.

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Isn't that lovely?

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It plays Amazing Grace. You have the dove of peace set inside.

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Well, that's so sweet.

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Shall we have a look at some more you've made over there?

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Yes, fine.

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These caught my eye. The keys.

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That's one of my favourites, actually.

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My wife actually designed this one.

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-Did she?

-And it goes back to 1986.

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The space shuttle, Challenger, unfortunately exploded,

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so the design is, "What is the key to life?"

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Does the answer lie in space? Is that where the key to life is?

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Is it your hobby?

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Is it money? Is it stardom?

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Being famous. Being on TV.

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Or is it music, being a pop idol, maybe? Is that...

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Is it your family? Children?

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Before we get to the last one, Is it self?

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Is that the key to life, self? Or is it the cross?

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We're fortunate we have the freedom in our country

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to choose the key to life.

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That's what that spoon is all about.

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That's really incredible. A work of art. Do you know what?

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Talking about works of art, I can't wait to finish my little love spoon.

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Have you noticed, I haven't put it down? It's...

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This is really dear to me.

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Can we go and finish it off, sand it off,

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put a smoothing plane there and finish the bowl.

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Yeah, yeah. That's the next job.

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I've thoroughly enjoyed my visit here with Kerry.

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It's been so inspirational.

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He is a craftsman, keeping a tradition and a spirit well alive here in Wales.

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And if you get a chance to pay him a visit, please do.

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You'll get a one-off spoon made for you.

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And I was lucky enough to make my own with his expert guidance.

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It's my design... it only took three hours.

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It's slightly naive, but there's a lot of heart and soul and integrity

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and that's what it's all about with folk art.

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I absolutely love this and I hope my wife does too.

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Back at the valuation day, Philip's found a couple of fellow dog lovers.

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Steve and Kathy. The Deerhound Club.

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-That's correct.

-You're dog mad.

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Absolutely.

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-I've got a lurcher.

-Have you?

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Mad as a March hare.

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-They're lovely.

-How long have you been in deerhounds?

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Been in deerhounds 18 years.

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-18 years.

-And we show them, breed them and I judge.

-Really?

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-Yes.

-So do you do Crufts, and...

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We do. We got a first at Crufts this year.

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Really? My dog's more scruffs rather than Crufts.

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-They're all wonderful.

-Yeah, how many have you got?

-Four.

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Four. There is a nice link here, isn't there?

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Because we've been talking about dogs and we've got Rover. You like that?

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-It's lovely.

-Just seamlessly, you moved to it, seamlessly.

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This is a car mascot that I think came off a Rover motor car,

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but if you look there we can just see, this is the radiator cap.

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And so that would have just screwed on

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to the front of our radiator... a bit like a car that Siegfried Farnon has

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on All Creatures Great and Small. Did he have a Rover?

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-Yes, I believe so.

-I think so.

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-And it's all elegance of an age gone by, isn't it?

-Yes.

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It's a load different from the plastic badges we get now, isn't it?

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-Is this something you picked up at a car boot, or...?

-No, through the family.

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It was my grandfather's,

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and I believe it had been his father's before that.

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As I understand it, between the two wars and we had the car as well,

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-when the Rover was a prestigious car.

-You're absolutely right, yes.

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And they kept the radiator cap when the car went.

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This has come down the family since 1920-something.

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-Yes, I believe so.

-Now you want to sell it.

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-We do.

-Why?

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We're not collectors of car memorabilia.

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We don't really display it and I believe someone that does have an interest in automobiles

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would have a great deal of joy out of it.

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-That's a real good reason for selling something.

-I think they would.

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A real good reason. You're passing this on so someone else can enjoy it.

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-Can appreciate it, yes.

-You haven't asked what it's worth yet.

-Not yet.

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It's not worth a fortune. It's probably going to make, at auction,

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in the order of £30 to £50.

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I think you need to put a £20 reserve on it that's fixed.

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And people... there are avid collectors of car mascots,

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indeed some of them can make thousands,

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or tens of thousands of pounds.

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Good luck with the dogs. What's the... Do you have a kennel name?

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-Gazeawhile.

-Gazeawhile.

-Yes.

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Your dogs are Gazeawhile something.

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That's correct. Gazeawhile Lyric is the name of one of our dogs

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and Gazeawhile Song is another name.

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-Where does that come from?

-"Gaze awhile" is from the Fields of Gold song by Sting.

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-Oh, right.

-And gaze also because they're gazehounds.

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They're sight hounds, so all linked together.

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I'm going to put in a special request now.

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-Yes.

-A real special request. You're going to sell this for £20 or £30.

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-Yes.

-Hopefully.

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Let's put this towards a collar or something for your new puppy,

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and let's call it Gazeawhile Flog It.

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So everybody at home, when they watch Crufts in, what three years' time?

0:28:550:28:59

-Indeed.

-They can see Gazeawhile Flog It as supreme champion.

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That would be good, wouldn't it?

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Agreed. It's a done deal.

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Thank you.

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Before we talk about the plates, I have to tell you that my director

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thinks that you remind her of Robert De Niro.

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-Jolly good.

-That's a good start, isn't it?

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It's a good start if I had his bank balance.

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Perhaps that's why your wife married you.

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Not for the bank balance, so she tells me.

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Right. What can you tell me about these plates?

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I only know that I bought them about 40, say 40 some odd years ago.

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-Did you?

-In an auction.

-And what took your eye?

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-I thought they were marvellous.

-Yeah.

0:29:490:29:51

-My wife is not that keen.

-She's not that keen?

-No.

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But she'll have the money.

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Most of it.

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-Twas ever thus, Gerald, twas ever thus.

-Yes.

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What struck me, and before we turn them over,

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I sure you know who they're by.

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Yes, yes, they're Worcester.

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Yes, they're Royal Worcester.

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They're a bit of an anathema.

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They are hand decorated, very well hand decorated.

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-Very clever.

-Yes.

-Whoever had a brush there, did a marvellous job.

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-The brush strokes are tremendous.

-Lovely.

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They are. Aesthetic movement, typically Worcester,

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bold brush strokes onto a bit Japanesey background,

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sort of peony background.

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I personally don't think that they particularly go well together

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and I think that's going to affect them commercially.

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-Yes.

-We'll turn one over.

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-You can't get better marks.

-No.

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-They are as crisp as you like.

-It's very clear, isn't it? Yes.

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Absolutely crisp Worcester mark and the kite mark which will date them.

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They're certainly pre-1882, so they're 120, 130 years old.

0:30:520:30:58

Yes.

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-And what about value?

-I don't know. I'm going to leave that to you.

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I'll tell you what I think they should be worth,

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which will be be rather different to their commercial value.

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You'd think any hand-painted Worcester plate must be worth

0:31:090:31:13

-£20 or £30, wouldn't you?

-Yes.

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Which would put the six of them at £120-£180.

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I don't think they're worth anything like that. Sadly, they're just not very commercial.

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I'd like to put £100-150 on them.

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Perhaps the old Flog It! adage of £80-120 would be better.

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If you start reserving them with much more than £60 or £70, we could have a struggle on our hands.

0:31:330:31:39

I would have like to sort of thought about something like £70.

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Tell you what, we'll settle at £70.

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-£70.

-Sold to the man in the corner.

-Sold, right.

-Right.

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You might well find two people really like them.

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I think with the different styles, possibly will put people off.

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I can't wait to be proved wrong. Thank you for bringing them in.

0:31:540:31:57

So we have got Lisa and Selina. How are you?

0:32:070:32:10

-OK.

-Good. Come far?

0:32:100:32:12

Yeah, about an hour and a half.

0:32:120:32:15

Do you often take you mother out with you, or not very often?

0:32:150:32:18

-Yeah.

-When she's well behaved.

-Yeah.

0:32:180:32:20

-What time do you have to get home? Early?

-Any time.

0:32:200:32:23

Yes, we have to look after her.

0:32:230:32:24

-Difficult thing with elderly parents, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-I know.

0:32:240:32:28

I know just how you feel. Who's is this?

0:32:280:32:30

-Is this yours or mother's?

-Mother's.

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-Mother's.

-It is. Yeah.

-Lisa, this is just absolutely lovely.

0:32:320:32:36

-I've always liked it.

-Do you know what it is?

0:32:360:32:39

No, I'm afraid there's not much history on it at all.

0:32:390:32:42

-Where does it come from?

-From my grandfather.

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It was left to him in a will from a lady that he used to board with before and during the war.

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He looked after her a bit as well and always admired the picture.

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This is what my mother told me. When she died, she left it to him in her will.

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This is a painting.

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-I think so, yes.

-It is and it isn't.

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-Right.

-Right, because it's a porcelain plaque.

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-Right.

-The best porcelain plaque manufacturer is KPM,

0:33:070:33:12

which is something like Konigliche Porzellan, whatever.

0:33:120:33:17

-Yes, right.

-But it's the king's porcelain manufacturer in Berlin.

0:33:170:33:20

OK? So let's move it over then.

0:33:200:33:22

So now,

0:33:220:33:24

we have here this really wonderful 19th century painting on a porcelain panel,

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and it's of a sort of young girl looking quite wistful

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with this landscape beyond and it's...

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The detail is glorious. You can just see a little ring on her finger here.

0:33:360:33:40

-Her eyes are stunning.

-Yes. That's always drawn me to it.

0:33:400:33:43

-Almost like she's looking at you.

-Yes.

0:33:430:33:45

This sort of veil here is wonderful.

0:33:450:33:49

The mark that we're looking for,

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and I know is there, because I looked earlier, is KPM.

0:33:500:33:54

-That's the sceptre mark, you can see in the porcelain.

-Right.

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And that is the best.

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We're going to turn to you now, Selina. Do you like it?

0:34:000:34:03

-It's very pretty, isn't it?

-If she was yours, would you sell her?

0:34:030:34:07

-Yes.

-You would?

0:34:070:34:08

-All about money, yes? If she made lots of money, you'd sell her.

-Yes.

0:34:080:34:12

Good stuff. Good on you, girl.

0:34:120:34:14

What's your view, Mum. Is yours the same?

0:34:140:34:16

Well, I'm torn really. You know, because it is a family heirloom.

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I remember this at my grandfather's house when I was a child, so...

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And I know he always liked it and cherished it, but...

0:34:230:34:25

-Have you had it valued?

-No, not at all before.

0:34:250:34:28

I've always thought about it, and never done anything until...

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If this were to make £100 to £200 at auction, that would be good.

0:34:320:34:36

I wouldn't sell it for that. I'd rather keep it,

0:34:360:34:38

because it's more sentimental value.

0:34:380:34:41

-What about sort of £300-£500. Is that sort of...?

-No, no.

0:34:410:34:45

So £600-£900, is that getting closer to it?

0:34:450:34:48

-No, I'd still keep it for that.

-You're absolutely right.

0:34:480:34:51

You're absolutely right. I think at auction that you could estimate it

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at probably £1200-£1800.

0:34:550:34:57

Yes, I think it's worth that because she's so nice.

0:34:570:35:00

I have to tell you that if she went and made 2,500 or £3,000,

0:35:000:35:05

it wouldn't overly surprise me.

0:35:050:35:07

So what I want to know is, if this makes £2,000,

0:35:070:35:12

Selina, what are you going to spend the money on?

0:35:120:35:15

A horse.

0:35:150:35:16

A horse. Is that a definite horse?

0:35:160:35:18

Or a maid or a day out shopping in New York.

0:35:180:35:23

A day out shopping in New York?

0:35:230:35:25

-Yeah, so you don't want much, really, do you(?)

-No.

0:35:250:35:28

If it goes really well, you could have a maid and a horse and a day out shopping.

0:35:280:35:33

Well, let's keep our fingers crossed.

0:35:330:35:35

It's now time to head off to the auction,

0:35:350:35:38

so let's hope the beautiful plaque sells at the top end of its estimate

0:35:380:35:42

so Selina can get her horse, a maid and a shopping trip to New York.

0:35:420:35:47

Kathy and Steve unfortunately don't have the car, just the mascot.

0:35:470:35:51

I wonder if the two will ever meet again once it goes under the hammer.

0:35:510:35:55

Finally, Gerald's plates aren't the typical Worcester we usually see,

0:35:550:35:59

so I hope there's a market out there for these.

0:35:590:36:02

Back to the auction, but before we get selling again,

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I'll have a quick chat with auctioneer, Nigel Hodson, about Lisa's porcelain plaque.

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Now this is real quality, I think.

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-That's what you expect from a Berlin plaque.

-Yeah.

-Stunning.

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It's got everything about it and I think the price is spot on, £1200-1800.

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It is a very beautiful thing, and these are always exquisitely painted

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and the expression on this young woman's face is just something to behold.

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-Angelic.

-Stunning. Angelic is a great word.

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Could it break through the £2,000 barrier?

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It's got to be thereabouts. £1,200 to 1,800.

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It's certainly worth more than £1,000, let's see what happens.

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Is it the sort of thing you'd love to have on your wall?

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I think it is, but I don't think I can afford it, to be honest!

0:36:480:36:52

Well you know what they say, if you want to travel in style, get yourself a car mascot.

0:37:020:37:06

We've got one right here, right now, up for sale, belonging to Kathy and Steve. I love it. I love it.

0:37:060:37:11

It's a Viking, it belongs at the head of the car, as a radiator cap.

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There you go, you know, so individual,

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and this had been on the family car for a long time, hasn't it?

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It was my great grandfather's.

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Why are you selling this?

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We don't collect, it's something we don't display.

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We're hoping someone who appreciates motoring memorabilia would enjoy it.

0:37:270:37:31

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they will enjoy it, because they are quite rare.

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Let's hope we get the top end anyway. This is it, going under the hammer!

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Lot 452 is the Rover car radiator mascot,

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the form of a bearded Viking warrior, as you'd expect.

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There we are, what do you say for that? In your hands entirely.

0:37:450:37:49

Little bit of interest. What can I start at?

0:37:490:37:51

£50 away on that? For the car radiator mascot.

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50, 30...

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30, 40 at the back.

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40, 50, at 50, 60, at 60.

0:38:000:38:04

-Very good.

-65 is with me, in fact. At 65, 70 at the back of the room.

0:38:040:38:08

At 70 now, at 70 at the back of the room. In the room at £70. All done?

0:38:080:38:12

-£70.

-Good.

0:38:120:38:15

-70 quid. Fabulous!

-Wonderful.

0:38:170:38:20

Fantastic. Thank you very much.

0:38:200:38:22

Six Worcester plates up for grabs.

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They belong to Gerald, with a valuation of £80-120

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according to our expert, Charlie here.

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The classic cliche. Well, good luck, both of you.

0:38:370:38:41

They're going under the hammer right now. This is it.

0:38:410:38:43

Lot 593 is a set of six Royal Worcester porcelain tea plates.

0:38:430:38:49

Hand painted with autumn leaves.

0:38:490:38:51

What do you say there? About £100 away.

0:38:510:38:53

I would have thought so.

0:38:530:38:55

50's all I'm bid.

0:38:550:38:56

At 50, 60 do you want now? At 50 only. At 50 only.

0:38:560:39:00

60 may I say? At 50 on the Worcester tea plates there at 50 only.

0:39:000:39:04

-We're not getting any action.

-At 50.

0:39:040:39:05

At 50 only. No interest further?

0:39:050:39:08

Not to be sold, I'm afraid.

0:39:080:39:10

So sorry. We gave it our best shot.

0:39:100:39:12

It just wasn't really your day.

0:39:120:39:14

-Never mind.

-In another sale room on another day I'm sure they'll reach their price.

0:39:140:39:18

The buyers weren't here today, it's as simple as that.

0:39:180:39:21

You win some, you lose some.

0:39:210:39:23

Well, it's got the impressed marks of KPM, which means quality.

0:39:300:39:33

We've all seen this at the valuation day, that Berlin plaque belonging to Lisa and Selina here.

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I must say you both look fantastic.

0:39:390:39:40

Lovely pinks going on here.

0:39:400:39:43

It's all colour-coordinated.

0:39:430:39:44

That little plaque was so beautiful.

0:39:440:39:46

We've seen them on the show before.

0:39:460:39:49

Philip's seen them as well,

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but not with such an angelic face as this woman's, captured so perfectly.

0:39:500:39:55

-They are normally older ladies and older men.

-Yes.

0:39:550:39:58

Older men and older ladies ain't quite so commercial.

0:39:580:40:01

Not so good to look at, are they?

0:40:010:40:03

Full of character, but not so good.

0:40:030:40:05

Yeah. You liked this so much you actually put a reserve up.

0:40:050:40:09

We had a fixed reserve at 1,200.

0:40:090:40:10

It's now been put up to £1,400. Yes. I don't blame you.

0:40:100:40:15

Had a chat with the auctioneer just before the sale started.

0:40:150:40:18

-We all think it's going to sell for around £1,800-£2,000.

-Hopefully.

0:40:180:40:22

I mean, a lovely fairy tale ending would be sort of plus 2,000.

0:40:220:40:26

We'd all like that, wouldn't we?

0:40:260:40:28

Yes, what would the money go towards, eh?

0:40:280:40:31

-A horse.

-A horse!

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And you wanted to do something as well, didn't you?

0:40:330:40:37

Go shopping to New York.

0:40:370:40:39

Oh, wow. Oh gosh, what a thing to do at your age,

0:40:390:40:41

it would be absolutely wonderful if you could do that.

0:40:410:40:44

I seem to remember there was a maid involved somewhere.

0:40:440:40:47

Yeah, what's the maid?

0:40:470:40:48

A maid round the house.

0:40:480:40:50

A maid for around the house. Get the horse. Get the horse.

0:40:500:40:54

The horse will love you and you'll love the horse and you'll grow with it,

0:40:540:40:57

especially if it's a little pony to start with.

0:40:570:41:00

-Yeah.

-You could love the maid.

0:41:000:41:01

No, no, no!

0:41:010:41:03

Lot 566 is the very beautiful 19th century KPM porcelain plaque.

0:41:050:41:12

What may I say for that to start me?

0:41:120:41:14

What do we say, about £1,500 to start me?

0:41:140:41:16

£1,500 to put me in? £1,000 somewhere then.

0:41:160:41:19

To get on, £500 at the back, at £500, the lady's bid.

0:41:190:41:23

At 500, may I say 600 now? At £500, £600, £700,

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£800, £900, £1,000.

0:41:280:41:31

1,100 the lady, 1,200 all in the room. 1,300, 1,400.

0:41:310:41:37

1,400 the gentleman's bid.

0:41:370:41:39

-It's sold, isn't it?

-1,400, 1,500.

0:41:390:41:42

1,500 may I say? 1,500 with Mervyn.

0:41:420:41:45

1,600 at the back.

0:41:450:41:47

1,700 you want now. 1,700 with Mervyn.

0:41:470:41:49

1,800 in the room. £1,800, 1,900.

0:41:490:41:55

Oh, Selina, oh yes!

0:41:550:41:56

2,100 now? 2,100 with Mervyn.

0:41:560:42:01

I think we'll have the maid and the horse!

0:42:010:42:03

2,300, 2,400, 2,500?

0:42:030:42:09

2,500, 2,600 in the room.

0:42:090:42:13

2,700 on the phone? 2,700.

0:42:130:42:15

2,800. Still there in the room.

0:42:150:42:18

-This is great. This is great. They absolutely love it.

-2,900.

0:42:180:42:22

3,000 bid. 3,100?

0:42:220:42:25

At £3,000 in the room.

0:42:250:42:27

Against you, Mervyn, at £3,000.

0:42:270:42:29

You can buy a thoroughbred now.

0:42:290:42:31

Last call against you. Selling at £3,000 then.

0:42:310:42:35

Bang! That hammer has gone down!

0:42:350:42:38

£3,000!

0:42:380:42:40

Philip, that was real quality.

0:42:400:42:42

What a wonderful moment. We've got tears.

0:42:420:42:45

Because it was my grandfather's.

0:42:450:42:46

Oh dear, I thought I was going to take it home.

0:42:460:42:49

We're selling your inheritance.

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Putting your money towards a horse, a shopping trip in New York

0:42:510:42:54

and possibly, well, a maid, maybe, for the odd weekend.

0:42:540:42:58

-Sorry, sorry.

-What a wonderful moment.

0:42:580:43:01

Congratulations to both of you.

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We've all enjoyed watching that being sold under the hammer.

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We've loved talking about it, it's real quality.

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Selina gets a horse, we've all had a great day.

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Wonderful surprises on Flog It!.

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Join us for many more to come.

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0:43:380:43:41

Today's programme is from Tenby. While experts Charlie Ross and Philip Serrell peruse the locals' possessions, presenter Paul Martin finds out about the age-old Welsh tradition of making love spoons. He even attempts to make a spoon for his wife. At the auction there are definitely some timely suprises!