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Paul Martin and experts Anita Manning and Kate Bateman unearth some treasures in Milton Keynes: a dazzling art deco ring and a mourning locket.


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I only have to say to you roundabouts and concrete cows

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and most of you will know what I'm on about.

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Today, Flog It is in Milton Keynes.

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Mooo!

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It's hotly debated exactly how many roundabouts there are here in Milton Keynes.

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Some say there's a mere 300.

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Others say it's closer to 1,000.

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But whatever way you look at it, you have to look around and see there are loads of them!

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As for the concrete cows,

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they were a leaving present to Milton Keynes

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in 1978 from the American artist Liz Leyh.

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For works of art, they've had a rough time.

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A couple have been stolen.

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Pranksters have painted pyjamas on them, and some have had to be rebuilt

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after they were beheaded!

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The Mona Lisa didn't have this sort of trouble!

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All of these good people have been queuing patiently outside the venue,

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the Jurys Inn, in the heart of Milton Keynes.

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They're not here to see modern sculpture.

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They're here to chew the cud with our antiques experts Anita Manning and Kate Bateman.

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It's time to get the doors open

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and see what they've got to say.

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Everyone, follow me!

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Inside we go.

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Anita's spotted some plates. But I don't think anybody will be eating off these!

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David, Tina, welcome to Flog It.

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I'm so happy that you've brought us along these wonderful big plates.

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Who do they belong to?

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-Me.

-All right. Where did you get them, David?

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I inherited them from a great aunt.

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She lived in Sweden for 40 to 50 years,

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having taught English to Swedish schoolchildren

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and got the MBE for her services.

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-Ah!

-So these arrived with me about 11 years ago

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in what was a living will.

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I imagine they're Swiss/Italian.

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Could be from the Zizino region of Switzerland

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or northern Italy

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or even a bit further south on the Italian Riviera

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around Portofino, that area.

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-You're very good, David. Are you after my job?

-I like the geography of Europe.

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-Tina, what did you think of them when they arrived?

-I thought they were beautiful.

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I still think that. If we had a high enough ceiling

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and a big enough room to put them in, then we would keep them.

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David, I think you're absolutely right in the geography.

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These are Swiss plates.

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They're from a Swiss factory.

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These would have been the type of items

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that would have been bought by people on their Grand Tour.

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-Oh, gosh.

-They date from the late 1800s to the early 20th century.

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They were made over a reasonable period of time.

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We have these hand-painted scenes in the centre.

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Both different scenes and probably from Switzerland.

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We have these high snow-clad mountains,

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the beautiful lakes

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and we have some little figures in boats.

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They are hand-painted. Not signed.

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They would have been done by artisans rather than artists.

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What I like best about them

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is this wonderful border.

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With these almost asymmetric bands

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of embossed flowers.

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They're big,

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they're bonny,

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they're in good condition.

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They were never fine items. They would be made in large quantities

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as souvenirs.

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-Production-type thing.

-Production-type thing,

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and they still have more quality

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than you would get from production items of today's age.

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So I would like to keep the estimate conservative.

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-OK.

-I would like to put them in

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with an estimate of 150 to 250.

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-That sounds fine.

-I would like to put a firm reserve of 150 on them,

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-with no discretion.

-Right.

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-Now, how do you feel about that?

-OK. They're your plates.

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-That sounds fine.

-Happy?

-Yes.

-Both of you happy?

-Yes!

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-Good. Let's go for 'em. Let's flog it.

-Thank you.

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Next is our new girl, Kate, who's found a glamorous little sparkler.

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So, Sadie and Leah, you've brought in this lovely ring.

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-What can you tell me about it?

-It was my nan's ring.

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I just had it in a jewellery box. My little girl, Leah, used to play in the garden with it.

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In the garden with it? Just to take it out and pretend it's yours?

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Did you ever drop it?

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-Lose it?

-I dropped it and, um...

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-I found it.

-In the garden. We had a tub of flowers.

-Yeah.

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-You are a lucky young lady. So you don't know much about it?

-No.

-You inherited it.

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OK. Well, it's a really nice ring. Art Deco.

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Sort of like a dress ring.

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It's got lots of diamonds!

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Very sparkly, as you can see, and a central oval ruby.

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Date-wise it's about 1920s, 1930s.

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-Have you ever had it valued?

-I took it down to my local jeweller's.

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He just gave me a valuation to insure it

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between two and three.

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But he obviously said

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to take it to a proper auctioneer and let them have a look.

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-So he wasn't interested in buying it.

-No.

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Two to three thousand for an insurance valuation is right.

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You'd normally insure it at twice the price

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-that you'd expect to get at a sale.

-Yeah.

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-And the problem is not a lot of people are going to be able to wear it.

-That's it.

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-It's not something you'd pop down to the shops with.

-No.

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No. Not when I found out it was... I'd assumed it was a dress ring.

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I didn't assume it was real diamonds.

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It didn't look like that when we first had it.

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He cleaned it all up for me.

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-OK. So quite surprising to see it shining.

-Yes.

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That's why you got to play with it! So,

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if we were to put it into a sale,

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you'd probably expect maybe an estimate of 1,200 to £1,500, something like that.

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A reserve somewhere just below that, so £900 as a reserve.

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-Is that the sort of figure you'd sell it for?

-Yeah,

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because it's just sitting in a box.

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What would you do with the money? This is your inheritance, if they sell it.

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-Don't want to inherit it? Rather get the money?

-Yes.

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-We'll get another car.

-Another car. Fair enough.

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-If you're happy, we'll try and get you a new car. We'll flog it.

-Lovely.

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Cliff, it's great to see a drum on Flog It,

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being an ex-drummer. I have a drum kit at home and still love to play,

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but wasn't fortunate enough to have a Ringo Starr drum!

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-How old were you when you got this?

-About nine.

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-Mid-'60s.

-Mid-'60s. This is definitely '64, '66, somewhere around there.

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Did it inspire you to take up drumming?

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Afraid not. I was never a Beatles fan.

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-Rolling Stones.

-Yes.

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Either one or the other. The Beatles were the good guys

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and the Rolling Stones were the rock'n'roll bad guys, got into trouble.

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The only use it really had was me trying to wear out Ringo's face!

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I'm pleased you didn't cos this is the original skin.

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It's got the Ringo Starr signature with his little face on it,

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as you can see.

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-These skins are very good, almost like professional skins.

-Really?

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This is a standard 14-inch snare drum. Although this is made

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completely out of plastic,

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it is actually modelled on a metal snare drum

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which Ringo would have used. This is made by Selco in this country.

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Ringo would have used a metal-shelled version, in chrome,

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with ten tuning lugs. His drum kit was a Ludwig, an American drum.

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Now, what's missing on this

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-is a set of snares.

-I noticed that.

-Wires soldered together on a strap.

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There's about 24 of them that run the length of the drum.

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They're held on with string which goes into those two holes.

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If you do that, it tightens them up

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and pulls the snare wires onto the bottom skin

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and makes it sound as if it's a marching drum.

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Military side drums. It goes...

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I wish we had some drum sticks!

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Tell you what, we've got some spoons.

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I don't know what I can do with spoons, but...

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-See?

-Very impressive.

-You can actually get something out of this

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-and I think this is a good starting-off instrument.

-It's a bit more than a toy.

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It's more than a toy. Now, we've sold Beatles guitars on the show.

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I think one achieved around three or four hundred pounds.

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-Have you any idea what this is worth?

-I was hoping 150 to 200, along those lines.

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I could say I think you're bang on!

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Pardon the pun!

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If this was in mint condition,

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if it had the stand and original sticks and those snare wires,

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museum condition, you'd be looking for 600 to £700,

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-Cos not many have survived.

-I can imagine.

-They really haven't.

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If we put this into auction, we'd put it in with a value of 200 to £400.

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A fixed reserve at 200.

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-Happy?

-Yes, very. Very happy.

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I think it's fantastic and a Beatles fan will love this,

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especially with Ringo there!

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Irene, you've brought in this truncheon. What can you tell me about it?

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Just that my mother owned it.

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It used to be her uncle's, many years ago.

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She just kept it and one day said, "It's something you can have."

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-And I thought, "Ooh! Nice!"

-You were thrilled to have it

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-as a gift.

-It was nice.

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When you were younger, you never asked questions what it was about.

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-Now she's long gone, it would be nice to...

-Wish you'd asked.

-Yes.

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-Was someone in the family a policeman?

-Yeah, my mother's uncle.

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-OK. And was that fairly locally?

-Oh, yes.

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-Round Wolverton, which is in Milton Keynes.

-OK.

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It's a late 19th-century policeman's truncheon.

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Have a look here. It's quite nicely decorated.

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All these hand-painted things on the front.

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You've got a crown

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and a VR for Victoria Regis cipher.

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And you've got constable, for a police constable,

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with a turned fruitwood handle and you have a bit of string here,

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but it would have had a leather strap for the wrist strap.

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So quite a highly decorative thing,

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as well as a highly effective thing if you're gonna hit someone!

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-Do you like it?

-I think it's nice, but it's in a cupboard in a box.

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OK, so it's quite hard to display.

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Sometimes they have wording on them like where it comes from.

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So you'd have the county or something. This just says constable.

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But you've got the VR cipher, so it's Victorian, pre-1910.

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-Price-wise for auction, do you have any idea what it would go for?

-No.

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-No idea?

-Not at all.

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I would think probably for an auction estimate, you'd put 80 to £120 on it.

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-They are quite collectible.

-Good.

-So you want it to sell.

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What would you say to a reserve of £50?

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-Why not?

-And an estimate of 80 to 120.

-Brilliant.

-Great.

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-We'll see you at the sale.

-Will do.

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Let's refresh our memories, with a look at the first batch of items

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on their way to the auction.

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David's hand-painted plates originally came from Switzerland.

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They've got to sell today - they're too heavy to carry home!

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Even Leah agrees that Kate's exquisite Art Deco diamond ring

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is much better off in a sale room than in the garden!

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Beatles memorabilia sells well

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so no reason for me to bang on any more

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about the value of the Ringo Starr drum.

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And the decorative Victorian policeman's truncheon

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is so beautiful, the bidders are bound to find it arresting!

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Today's sale comes from the heart of Woburn

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and today's venue is the Old Town Hall.

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For years, this has been owned by Flog It favourite Charlie Ross.

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It's been taken over recently by Jasper Marsh, also an auctioneer,

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but he's using Charlie's talents today on the rostrum. Let's go inside.

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While Charlie gets ready on the rostrum,

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I'll have a quick chat with Jasper

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about the Ringo Starr drum.

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I fell in love with this at the valuation.

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It belongs to Cliff. It's a Newbeat snare drum.

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It's a cracking bit of Beatles memorabilia.

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You're thinking I've gone mad!

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I think this will sell for around £200, possibly more.

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We've sold the Beatles equivalent guitars,

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little aubergine and orange guitars, 1960s guitars, on the show before.

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If I recall, one went in Cardiff.

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I think we put something like £90 on this little guitar. 60 to £90.

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And it fetched 200 to 300, around there.

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So I'm basing my knowledge on what's gone before on the show.

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I haven't seen another one, Paul. It's more your area than mine.

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Um, but it's kitschy, it's got a look,

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it's been on the internet,

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so fingers crossed.

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But I'm, um...

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PAUL LAUGHS ..dubious!

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I don't blame you! All I could do is go by what we've sold before.

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We've seen plenty of these on the show, a Victorian police truncheon.

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They make cracking money if dated and in great condition.

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This one's condition is superb. We've got 80 to £120 on it.

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It belongs to Irene here, possibly for not much longer.

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-Who have you brought along?

-My husband, Ed.

-Hi.

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Cracking, cracking item.

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How did you come across this?

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It was my mother's uncle's.

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I wonder if someone was in the police force in the family?

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-I wish I knew.

-Let's hope you're right, Kate.

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The condition, as you say, is great.

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So it should sell pretty well.

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You're right, if it had been dated, or a warrant number on it.

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-Or name of a place.

-Name of a place.

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You could attribute it to a local police station.

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-Wow, you're looking at 400 to £500.

-And upwards.

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Lot 577 is a Victorian constable's truncheon.

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Impressed maker's mark, Parker.

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In fantastic condition. £50, I'm bid. Five.

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60. Five. 70.

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Five. 80.

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Five. Your bid. 85 on my left. 90. Five.

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100. And ten.

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120?

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120. 130?

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120. Your bid in the back, standing.

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£120. Selling.

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At one hundred... 30.

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40. 150? 140 in the back, then.

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At £140!

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-That was like a game of table tennis!

-That's really good.

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-Really nice.

-What are you going to put the money towards?

-A holiday.

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-Well, we're going to Norfolk.

-We like Norfolk.

-Right.

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-We take the pets with us!

-What have you got?

-A border collie and a dog.

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-A cat, sorry!

-A collie and a cat. "Border collie and a dog"!

-Sorry!

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Can't take me anywhere!

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-Congratulations.

-Thank you.

-Well done.

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You know those moments when I say credit to our experts, they were spot on?

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Well, it could go horribly wrong now for us.

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We've got Cliff and the Ringo Starr snare drum.

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A lovely bit of retro 1960s plastic.

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But unfortunately, the auctioneer didn't agree with my valuation.

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He didn't know what planet I was on

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and he's too young to understand The Beatles.

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I'm just hoping the room's full of Beatles fans. Spot any?

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There's a lot of bald heads!

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The circle Newbeat snare drum.

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Circa 1964.

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A Beatles promotional drum. There it is.

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Ringo Starr.

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And I'm bid £110. 120, anywhere? At 110.

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And 20.

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130. And 40.

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150 and 60. No.

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£150 now.

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160. It's not your bid.

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At 150. All done?

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At 150.

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Any more bids? All done?

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At £150. One more?

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Come on, one more.

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Can't be done, I'm afraid, ladies and gentlemen. We move on.

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We got it to 150 in the room. Put it in a specialist music sale.

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There were no other instruments here.

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-Just a few old violins.

-I'll take your advice.

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-Smashing.

-Thank you. I'm really sorry it didn't sell.

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Next up, two beautiful hand-painted plates.

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They're quite large, from the 1800s, and belong to Tina and David.

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Great to see you. You look absolutely fabulous!

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-They've been in the family. They were your aunt's...

-Great aunt's.

-Lots of memories?

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-Yes.

-Originally, Anita, we had a valuation of 150 to £200.

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Fixed reserve at 150.

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We decided that at the valuation day.

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Since then, David's done some research.

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He's put the reserve up. It's not 150 any more, it's now 250.

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These plates may well do 250 or more.

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A low estimate doesn't jeopardise the price.

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-It's more of a "come and buy me".

-It encourages the bidding.

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Where did you do your research? How did you come by the price?

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Some of these plates, a lot smaller, are selling for 1,500 US dollars.

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-They're for sale at 1,500 dollars.

-Whether they get that.

-Not selling at.

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You have to be really very careful.

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You think you can do the research on the internet, but it is limited for the private person.

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It's going under the hammer. Good luck!

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A pair of Swiss earthenware chargers,

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each centrally decorated with figures in boats

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on a lake with mountains beyond.

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Within a broad band of floral panels.

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The reverse each signed "Toon".

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And I'm bid

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220 to clear commissions.

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220.

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240, now? 220.

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240.

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240 here. 250.

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260. 260.

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-Well done.

-It's on my right, now. Selling at 260.

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270 elsewhere?

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£260 to my right. All finished

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at £260. Done and selling

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at 260.

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260.

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260. Just over reserve. Well done.

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Sadie and Leah, we've been waiting for this for a long time.

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Is it exciting? Not only a day off school, but a day in an auction room.

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-Have you been in one before?

-No.

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You can't see a lot at your height, but it's all going on at that end.

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Charlie Ross is on the rostrum, selling all our lots.

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Hopefully, this little ruby ring - we've got a value of 1,200.

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-Yes, just over 1,000.

-Just over £1,000 is coming hopefully your way.

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Ruby and diamond ring

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in an Art Deco mount.

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Beautiful lot.

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Bid 650, 700. 50.

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At 750. 800 now.

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At 800. I'll take 20 if it helps you.

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Bid's at 800. And 20 now? Say now.

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At £800.

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You're all out seated at 800. And 20 is it, now?

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At £800. Any more bid?

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All done at £800.

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No more? At 800 it is.

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Can't be sold, ladies and gentlemen, at £800.

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We had a fixed reserve of 900 and I'm pleased you protected it with that.

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-You don't want to give it away.

-No. I don't think the jewellery dealers were here.

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It's a stand-alone piece in the room. There's no other diamonds or gems here.

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-OK, we'll take it home, Leah.

-It's got to go home!

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-I'm so sorry!

-That's OK. Thank you, anyway.

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The good news is that, after the auction,

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Sadie accepted a private offer of £750.

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So she'll be able to buy that much-needed car after all.

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Roald Dahl, what a legend! Is there anybody

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who has grown up over the last 50 years

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who can imagine their childhood without the BFG...

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James and the Giant Peach...

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..or Matilda?

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These are just some of his classic and much-loved children's stories.

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And this big blue building here couldn't be anything else but the Roald Dahl Museum and Story Centre.

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Amanda Concay runs the Roald Dahl foundation

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which is also based here. That's her office by the sign on the first floor.

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She can remember him reading her bedtime stories.

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Sounds absolutely fascinating, so let's have a chat with her.

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Let's hear Amanda tell us her story about Roald Dahl.

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I grew up in the village we are now, in Great Missenden,

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and this is where Roald Dahl lived and spent most of his adult years

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and where he wrote all his children's books.

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As a child, our families were friends.

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I was in the same class as his second child, Tessa.

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Roald did the morning lift to school, my mother did the evening.

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We certainly stayed in each other's houses, had sleep-overs,

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so our lives were pretty interlinked.

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Was he good fun to be with?

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Yes, he was very imposing.

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He was very tall, six foot five,

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so he seemed a giant when you were a child and I think he hoped he was the Big Friendly Giant.

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Do you have any fond memories of him?

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He always wanted to take that bit of childhood fun a bit further.

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So midnight walks are something that children talk about, and fantasise about,

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but generally they don't happen.

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But he would get us up in our pyjamas and say, "We're going for a walk."

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And he would take us down the road to this tunnel

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and he would tell a story under there.

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It could be about anything,

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the stars, witches, foxes, anything.

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So that was just completely magical and different.

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When Amanda started working at the foundation,

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she had no idea what a huge and lasting success

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Dahl's children's books would turn out to be.

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Roald was the first one where there were signing sessions,

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where there were author visits,

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and boy, did the kids like to meet him!

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You're not frightened of me, are you?

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They're all sort of funny and nice.

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Better than the other people's books.

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The amazing thing is, for example,

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Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is Penguin Books' best-selling book of all time.

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You're in publishing yourself,

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so can you sum up why he was such a successful writer?

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It is hard to say what makes somebody take off in this way,

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to become part of the popular culture.

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There's nothing old-fashioned about Roald Dahl. He's contemporary.

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Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was written over 40 years ago,

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but it still feels very contemporary.

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They're nearly all moral tales, in one way or another.

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Um, and the child is generally the hero.

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At least the good children win and the bad children get their come-uppance.

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Talking of Charlie again, what happens to the horrible children?

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They all end up going down the chute.

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The Oompa-Loompas get rid of them.

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But we know Charlie is a good boy.

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Nasty things happen but out of those, people either get punished

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-or good people get rewarded.

-Yes.

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So out of the dark comes good.

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It's hard to think of Roald Dahl without thinking of his long-term working partnership

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with illustrator Quentin Blake.

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I think The Enormous Crocodile just shows how well

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the combination of the two talents worked.

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-Children can identify with that.

-Here is a crocodile that eats children.

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But he has huge teeth.

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But somehow, they're funny. There's something amazing about the combination.

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In this book, Revolting Rhymes, for example,

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here's a great thing when the prince chops off Cinderella's sister's head.

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"What's all the racket?", Cindy cried. "Mind your own biz", the prince replied.

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Poor Cindy's heart was torn to shreds.

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"My prince", she thought.

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"He chops off heads."

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-That is so funny.

-This is a great example, isn't it?

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-Look at her face.

-Yes, her face. It's not ghoulish, it's just funny.

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I can have lots of people killed

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but they won't be killed in a conventional way.

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You can't have them shot

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or chopped up or anything like that. It's just straight.

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I'm quite prepared to have them killed in the most grizzly possible way,

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like having little boys from Eton pulled out of the windows

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and eaten by giants.

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Bones crunched up and everything.

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Or a child falling into a chocolate-making machine

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and coming out as fudge.

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That's fine, as long as there is a whopping great laugh at the same time.

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He always said it's got to be fun. The books have to be funny.

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And that came to him naturally.

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He had the whizz-popping giant

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in George's Marvellous Medicine

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where he describes the granny as having a mouth like a dog's bottom.

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-That's very creative!

-You only have to say that,

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you only have to say it and you laugh, but no-one else would write it. But he did.

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I understand he said, or he disliked anyway,

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beards, museums and speeches.

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What would he have made of the museum downstairs?

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One has to remember he would have been 92 had he been alive now.

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He said those things when museums were quite stuffy places.

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The great thing is, we've been able to create the museum and story centre

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at a time when museums can be really good fun.

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They can be very interactive. I think you'll find when you see the museum

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that it really lives up to him and his books

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and it's a great fun place.

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So that's exactly what I did

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and Amanda was right. The children were having a scrumdiddlyumptious time.

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But the final word should be left to the great man himself

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who'd have been very at home in the museum.

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'Most adults have forgotten how children are thinking.

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'And I certainly see myself totally on the side of children.'

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Back at the valuations, Anita has found some playful Clarice Cliff.

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Clare, Clarice Cliff was one of the leading ceramicists of the 20th century.

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People either love or hate her work.

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-What do you think of it?

-These, I think, are hideous, really.

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That's a word that my father described them as, "hideous".

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Indeed. Tell me, where did you get them from?

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They were given to my grandparents as a wedding gift.

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I think that was in 1936.

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Then my mum's always had them on the shelf in the kitchen.

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That's where I remember seeing them.

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Then Mum and Dad brought them over this time last year

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and said, "Get rid of them. See what you can do with them."

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Well, if we turn them up and look at the back stamp,

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we see the magic name, Clarice Cliff.

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Now, Clarice made a wide range of goods

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and some of them are more collectible than others.

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We have some very rare patterns that go into the four figures

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and are highly sought-after.

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Now, these are not the top-of-the-range Clarice Cliff.

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They're from the series "My Garden" series.

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So-called because you have this wonderful handle

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which is a band of flowers.

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A fairly common, a fairly ordinary pattern,

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it was very popular in its day.

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They were made in the 1930s.

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Because they were popular, they made a large amount of them.

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So they weren't rare, and in today's market, that brings the price down.

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-I would estimate them between 100 and £150.

-OK.

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About £50 each. Now, they might go a little higher

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than the bottom estimate,

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but you're not going to go to 200, £250.

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I would love it to happen!

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I think my dad would, also!

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-So would you be happy to sell them?

-That would be good.

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We'll put a reserve of £100 to protect them

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and we'll hope they'll be very well fancied on the day.

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-I hope so.

-Clare, shall we flog them?

-Go for it!

-Let's go for it!

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So, Steve, you've brought in this bizarre, rather large, animal.

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It's an elephant and a tiger. What do you think about it?

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Um, I like it. It's just gathering dust, really.

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I've had it in the loft. I inherited it from my gran,

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but I've got nowhere to display it.

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And if the little 'un knocks it off, it would be quite upsetting.

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Ah, you've got a young child that might break it into pieces.

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-Does your wife like it?

-Yeah, she likes elephants.

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She'll be sad to see it go, but if it gets broken, she'll be even more gutted.

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Do you know anything about it? The maker, or...?

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It's got on the bottom it's a Beswick. I've nothing else to go on.

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I know it's from my gran's cos I've seen it since I was young.

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Yes, Beswick is the mark, an English maker.

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It's fairly modern, 20th century.

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But they make quite a lot of these animal models - cows, sheep and things.

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They also do a series of wild animals, of which this is one.

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They do this model in various sizes, a small, medium and large, and this is the large.

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You've got a big bull elephant being attacked by a tiger.

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So quite a violent theme to go on your mantelpiece!

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It's really nicely modelled.

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You can see the detail in the hide of the elephant, the face on the tiger.

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Also, Beswick bits always get broken off.

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So whenever I see one, I think, "It'll have a break on the trunk

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"or the tusks always come off.

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"You get chips on the legs or the ears."

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But this is remarkably good condition,

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considering it's been kept in the loft!

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-It didn't cost you anything.

-No.

-Any idea as to value?

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I've got no idea. As far as I'm concerned, it's more sentimental.

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There are lots of Beswick collectors out there.

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But it means nothing to them in terms of sentiment.

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It's, "Is it one of a number that were produced and how rare is it?"

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But the condition's great. For an auction value, you'd put 150 to £250 on it.

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-Better than I thought.

-More than you thought?

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-So for that kind of price, you'd be happy to sell it?

-Yes.

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The estimate for the catalogue is 150 to 250.

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I would suggest a lower reserve of £100.

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But you can make that discretionary so the auctioneer has a chance to sell it.

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-OK with that?

-Yeah.

-OK.

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-So see you at the auction.

-OK.

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Jill, welcome to Flog It.

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And it's lovely to have that gorgeous piece of Victorian jewellery here.

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Tell me, where did you get it?

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My grandmother gave it to me when I got engaged in 1974.

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-Did you wear it?

-I've never worn it.

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-Left in a drawer.

-Did it belong to your grandmother?

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I think so, but I don't know anything about it.

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-No pictures of her wearing it?

-No, unfortunately.

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Why haven't you worn it? Is it not to your taste?

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Because I knew it was a mourning locket

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and it's big and dark-coloured. Although I knew it was beautifully made.

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-So it's a bit sort of sombre.

-Mmm.

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OK, let's just have a closer look at it.

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The case is not marked for gold.

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Very often when a piece was made specially for someone,

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by a jeweller, if it had been commissioned,

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then they would not have hallmarked it.

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But the touch of it, the colour of it, the weight of it,

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all these things indicate to me that it is gold.

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The front of it

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has this beautiful banded agate oval on it.

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And we have a gold and enamelled starburst here

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and a beautiful pearl.

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So it's a lovely thing.

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It's a quality item.

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I like it very, very much.

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Let's open it

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and have a little look inside.

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-Now, do you know who this...

-Afraid I don't, no!

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-He's quite a sombre looking chap.

-He is.

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-Could he have been a boyfriend or a fiance?

-I just don't know.

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-You don't know?

-No.

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And we have the hair whorl here,

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which is typical of mourning jewellery.

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When Prince Albert died, Queen Victoria went into mourning.

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And mourning became a fashion.

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-Right.

-I would date it

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from about the 1860s, 1870s.

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Although these aren't popular as things to wear,

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they are collectible. Price-wise,

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I would put an estimate of 120 to 180 on this locket.

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-Would you be happy with that estimate?

-Yes.

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Let's put it to sale, Jill, but we'll put a fixed reserve

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-of £120.

-Yes, that sounds good.

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-Shall we sell it at that?

-Yes, please.

-I'm hoping it will go much higher.

-Thank you.

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Time to have a final look at what is on the way to the sale room.

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Luckily, not everyone shares Clare's low opinion of Clarice Cliff!

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I'm sure these jugs will soothe a new owner.

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The Beswick collectors will love the condition of Steve's elephant and tiger.

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It's going to be a jungle out there!

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And the Victorian mourning locket may not be the height of fashion,

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but it's quality - and you know what I always say about quality.

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First up, those Clarice Cliff jugs.

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Clare, good to see you again.

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You've brought the kids here?

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I've got Joshua. He's four.

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And Rachel, who's 16 months.

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Wow! First time on TV. Lovely. The jugs, do you...

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-No. Hideous.

-Do you like them?

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I like Clarice Cliff. I think it's very cheering.

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-Yes.

-It's lovely in a kitchen.

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Hopefully, we'll get around 100 to £150.

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-You're flogging their inheritance!

-Not really!

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No? What does Rachel think, I wonder? Hey, Rachel?

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Oh, she's bidding. You just bought something!

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A pair of 1930s Clarice Cliff jugs

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of cylindrical tapering form,

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each decorated with streaked orange and grey glaze

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with moulded floral loop handle.

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Bid 65 to clear commission. 70 I'll take.

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At 65 for the pair. 75. 80.

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Five. 90.

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90 bid. Five now?

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At 90. And five. 100.

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100 elsewhere? Bid's at 95. May I say 100, sir?

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95 is the bid, then. At 95.

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All finished at 95? 100 now?

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At 95, then.

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I'm afraid, ladies and gentlemen, we are one bid away. Not sold.

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I just don't believe that. One bid.

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We just needed a little prayer there. Rachel,

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one bid away. So close!

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-So close.

-But Mum and Dad set the reserve.

-They did, yes.

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We've seen plenty of Beswick on the show before, but nothing like this.

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A tiger on the back of an elephant. It belongs to Steve, not for much longer.

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It's in good company. Have you seen the amount of Beswick in the room?

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-There's a lot.

-I'd say there's about 300 lots there.

-Yeah.

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So the collectors are gonna be here. I think they'll snap yours up.

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-Do you think it'll get top end?

-It'd be nice if it did.

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It's unusual, not the normal thing people go for.

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But I think so, yeah.

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I had a chat with the new owner of the sale room, Jasper.

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He kinda liked it. He said he wouldn't give it house room

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but it will do mid-estimate. So we're pretty safe.

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Lot 65 is a Beswick elephant and tiger.

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Large group. 50 bid. Five. 60. Five.

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70. Five.

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No? At 70. Five now. 75 in two places. 80.

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80. 90, may I say? 90.

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Your bid at 90.

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Make no mistake, I'm selling at 90 in the front row.

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Anybody make it 100? And 100 I'm bid.

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And ten, sir? Pipped at the post. 110.

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120? No? 110 your bid.

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Front row. All done at £110.

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Yes. Nice work, Charlie Ross.

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-£110, Steven.

-Not bad.

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-Good, isn't it?

-Yep.

-Better than something collecting dust

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and breaking in a few weeks' time.

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Who's getting the money?

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Um, I dunno, really.

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Take the girlfriend out for a meal, I suppose.

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-Treat her. Something special.

-She'll hold you to that! It's on camera!

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Let's hope this isn't a sad moment. It's a Victorian mourning locket.

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It's Jill's and has been in the family a while.

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But you've decided to sell this now

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because you want to put the money towards a new addition.

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We've just had our first grandchild, called Isobel.

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It's easier to sell it, because this was a special present to you.

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When we got engaged, my grandmother gave me this, 33 years ago.

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A long time. It's hard to sell things people give you as presents.

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But in this case, selling it because of a new addition to the family, I think is wonderful.

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It's such a lovely thing and it's in perfect condition.

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You haven't worn it. It's been in a drawer.

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I think if you don't like it, it's the time to sell it.

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I think it might be to today's tastes. It's a big chunky piece.

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It's of beautiful quality.

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Does that mean we'll get the top end of the estimate?

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I don't know, Paul. We'll have to wait and see.

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What are you looking for secretly?

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120? 50?

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150 would be very nice.

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But the market will determine.

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Fingers crossed.

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A gold, pearl and enamel pendant,

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circa 1880. Late Victorian pendant.

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I can start that at 85. 90. Five.

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110. 120. 130.

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140. 150.

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-160. 170.

-This is good.

-180.

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190.

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200. And 20.

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240. 260.

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280. 300.

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320. 340.

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-360.

-A lot of money!

-380.

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Are you taking instructions? 380.

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400? No.

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380. You're out on the stairs. 380 in the middle of the room.

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At £380. All done?

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Selling at £380.

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-Yes!

-Excellent!

-Now, quality...

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-..always sells.

-Quality. Condition.

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And I was right. I thought that it might be to today's tastes.

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-And also...

-A big chunky piece.

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-And also a "Come and buy me..."

-Well.

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-"Come and buy me" valuation!

-I can be a bit like that.

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-Excellent!

-Canny lass!

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-I'm really pleased.

-You've got to be pleased with that! Wow!

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I'm feeling hot over that one!

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-Lovely.

-That's gonna be put towards the christening funds.

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-Definitely.

-A bank account.

-Lovely nest egg, yes.

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Fantastic. Thanks for coming in.

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-Well done. That was marvellous!

-Thank you!

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Well done, Anita. What a "come and buy me" that was!

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That's it. What a great day we've had here.

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The auction's still going on behind me

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and all credit to Charlie Ross.

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He's been magnificent as have our two experts today.

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We've had a great time at Woburn. Until next time, cheerio!

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Subtitles by Moira Diamond Red Bee Media Ltd - 2009

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Paul Martin and experts Anita Manning and Kate Bateman are in Milton Keynes. During the day they unearth some real treasures - a dazzling art deco ring and a mourning locket which get the bidders buzzing in the sale room later. Paul also drops in on a local museum celebrating the life and work of famous writer Roald Dahl and talks to a group of very excited youngsters.