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Today we've headed out to the coast in a county famous for mariners

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like Sir Francis Drake and Sir Walter Raleigh, and writers like Agatha Christie.

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Welcome to Flog It! from Devon.

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The Barbican here at Plymouth

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lies at the heart of the city's rich and colourful heritage.

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Although large parts were destroyed during the war, the spectacular Barbican area survived,

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preserving its medieval street layout and many fine Tudor dwellings.

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The Barbican was also once home to the studio of this chap,

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Robert Lenkiewicz, possibly one of the most prolific artists of the 20th century.

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Later on in the show we'll be taking a look at his life and his work.

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Whilst Plymouth is the location for our auction,

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we've headed just up the road to Torquay for our valuation day.

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The Victorians named Torquay Queen Of The Riviera

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and we've taken residence at the Palace. Well, the Palace Hotel!

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Our two experts are Philip Serrell and new boy David Fletcher

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and they're already hard at work rummaging through the people's bags.

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So, it looks like Philip has already spotted something a little puzzling.

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-How are you doing?

-Fine, thanks.

-Are these yours?

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-Yes, they are.

-When did you get these?

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-I had them every year as a Christmas present as a child.

-As a child?

-Yes.

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-How old are they, then?

-They're probably... I don't know.

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-You're not going to tell me.

-I'd like to say 30 years.

-30 years old. Right.

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-Yes.

-So... Right, OK, fine.

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-A little bit of artistic licence there.

-Of course!

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Because I think these are probably actually...1960s?

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-Yeah, you could...

-Could be right!

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-Could be right.

-I would never, ever discuss a lady's age.

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Which was your first one?

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I think the Alice In Wonderland was the first one.

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-So, you had one of these...?

-Yes, every year.

-Every year.

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And so the idea of this is you have to get the blue on the blue.

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-Yes.

-The red on the red.

-Yes.

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-The green on the green and the black on the black.

-That's right.

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-It's hopeless, isn't it?

-I haven't got the patience for them now.

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This is one of those... This is a forerunner of those game...

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Nintendo-jobbie things, isn't it?

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If we look at this one here we can see that they're English made

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by Journet of London.

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Always good to have a London maker, isn't it?

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Helen, I know a particularly sad bit of information about you,

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-because you memorised the verse on the back, didn't you?

-Some of it, yes.

-Go on, then.

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Popular portable puzzles proving positively perplexing and perpetually pleasing posers...

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-And that's as much as I can remember!

-How bad is that?

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-You really need to get out more, you know. Honestly.

-Yeah, that's sad, I know.

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I think they're lovely. They're not going to be worth a fortune.

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-No.

-How many have you got? Two, four, six, eight, ten, twelve of them.

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I think you could put a £20 to £40 estimate on them, but I just think they're great fun

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-and they're a great memory of your childhood, aren't they?

-Yes.

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-So let's hope they do really well for you.

-Lovely.

-Good stuff.

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So, I love Moorcroft, so it's really good to see these.

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Tell me how you came by them.

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Well, I work at our local hospice, the Rowcroft Hospice in Torquay,

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and it's before my time, I think about 20 years ago...

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-Right.

-A gentleman kindly donated them after his wife died in the hospice

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and they've been sitting on our mantelpiece in day services and somebody suggested that

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-they could be valuable and maybe, as we needed income, we would sell them.

-That's lovely.

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It's great to know they're going to a good cause and I think you're very wise to sell them by auction

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because you know the market will be tested

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-and we can guarantee we'll get you the best price.

-Yes.

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I've done a little bit of research on the patterns.

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I shall have to be careful really because my mum collects Moorcroft

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and if I get this wrong she'll be very cross with me.

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-I'm pretty certain that this is Clematis.

-Right.

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And that these two are each Anemone.

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-Oh, right.

-They're decorated, as we can see, on a green ground

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and each one bears the printed paper label

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which tells us that Moorcroft was potter to Queen Mary.

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Walter Moorcroft, who took over the factory in the mid '30s,

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was very proud of this Royal endorsement

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and his wares bore the labour mark well into the '40s, until after the war in fact,

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and I think we can safely date these after the war.

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So, they're relatively late, but they're charming.

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-Can I ask what would be put in this one because it's got the cork on top?

-A very good point.

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This is a table lamp base, so it is possible to run a wire through the base,

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up to this attachment here, so I think it will one day be used again as a table lamp base...

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-Oh, that would be lovely.

-..rather than as a vase.

-Yeah.

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Have you any idea what they might make?

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No, no. Somebody just said they knew Moorcroft and, yes, they may be worth a few pound.

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Well, Moorcroft is very collectable.

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The market goes up and down.

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It has been higher than it is now,

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but I'm confident if we sold these in one lot

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we would get in the region of £200 for this

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and, say, £80 for each of these, the tarts and the oval dish.

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That makes, my maths isn't very good, but round about £350.

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I would have thought, if we offered them with an estimate of 350 to 450,

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-subject to a reserve of £300.

-Yeah.

-Does that sound OK to you?

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-That would be really good for the hospice.

-Jolly good.

-Thank you.

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-We'll go ahead on that basis.

-Thank you.

-Thank you, Sue.

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-Alistair, how are you doing?

-All right, thank you.

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-You're a collector?

-Yes, I am.

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These are a real collectors' lot. Don't tell me yet, cos I'm trying to work out what they are.

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We've got little silver... When you pick them up first,

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they look maybe Chinese silver, but they're not?

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-English hallmarks on the bottom...

-Yes.

-..which we'll look at in a minute,

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and there's a hole in the top which can suggest a whole host of things.

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I've seen bougie boxes and wax jacks that have been altered look like that,

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and I've also seen bigger lignum vitae barrels with a hole in the top where strings come through.

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-Yes.

-Am I getting close?

-Well, yes, I think you are. I think you're well on the track.

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So go on, tell me.

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Well, I think I know what they are. I think they're cotton-reel boxes.

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So you'd drop your cotton reel, you'd pull the cotton out, thread it through there...

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And then you don't have any trouble.

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-Pop that on there and then you just pull your thread out?

-Yes.

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Ah, right. So are these something you've bought or...?

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No, they belonged to my first wife's family.

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Her grandfather, so I think they're 1870s or 1880s.

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Let's just have a look at the mark.

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They're certainly late 19th century.

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The maker's stamp is A & J Zimmerman,

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and the anchor tells us that they were assayed in Birmingham.

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So why do you want to sell these?

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Well, they belonged to my wife's family and I've got quite a few

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mementoes of my wife, and I think I can pass those on and use the money to go and collect something else.

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Eyes on anything in particular?

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Well, I have. I'm sure that one exists somewhere.

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I've got one or two English-hallmarked ring boxes...

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-Yeah.

-..which I like to collect, and I'm sure I have never seen one...

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There's a gold one somewhere.

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Start saving, start saving!

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Well, I might pay the money if I can find one. I haven't found one yet.

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I'd better bring you back down to earth sharpish, hadn't I?

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As far as the value of those.

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I think, at auction, these...

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-We can estimate them at £50 to £80. Is that all right?

-Yes.

-We'd need to put a reserve.

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We can put that at £50. If you want to give the auctioneer 10% discretion, you can.

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-Yes.

-Or you have it fixed at £50.

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-I'll fix it at 50, thank you.

-We'll estimate them at £50 to £80 with a fixed £50 reserve, and if you have

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a bit of luck, they might even creep up towards the £100 mark.

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I love these valuation days, but sometimes talking to so many people

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can take its toll on my voice, but just take a look at I've found here.

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-So, let me get this right, Barry and Malcolm?

-Yes. That's right, yes.

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-Brothers?

-Brothers, yeah.

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-And this was Mum and Dad's?

-Yes, it was, yes.

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-OK, it's a family heirloom.

-It is.

-Who's been looking after it, then?

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Well, it's just been in Mum and Dad's house, you know? And now we've decided to...

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-Sell it.

-To sell it, yeah.

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-Do you know much about it at all?

-No, we don't know much about it.

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-We know that, we think it's French...

-Yes, it's definitely continental.

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And it's a Tantalus, but more than that we don't really know.

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It's the most stunning Tantalus I've seen for a long, long time and it's exotically inlaid

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with different veneers and it's just beautiful, absolutely beautiful.

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-I mean, it's a cabinet-maker's dream, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-It is, yes.

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The whole construction, actually, is mahogany and then the face sides have been veneered.

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-Yeah. So it's made out of real good wood, then.

-It's made out of good wood.

-Yeah.

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Look at the inlay for a minute, on the face side obviously you've got some ormolu here,

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sort of inlaid boulle work, which tells me it is definitely French.

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-OK.

-Right.

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It's bordered here, cross grained with a tulip wood,

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but it's amboina on all the face sides with this wonderful boulle.

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Very thin sheet of metal cut and inlaid into the wood.

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And what is the metal, is it brass?

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It is brass, yes.

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This is the beautiful thing about this, though,

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when you reveal what's inside here

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because this quite cleverly just lifts here,

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doesn't it, to reveal the featured interior?

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But this face side actually drops down.

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-Yeah.

-Yes.

-So now, on view from this angle, this becomes decoration.

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-How clever is that?

-Yeah.

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And then the business end of the interior.

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I'm sorry, I was responsible for...some of the glasses broke when I was younger.

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-Oh, were you now?

-So this...

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Unfortunately, there is a bottle missing, isn't there? There's a little decanter missing.

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-It's down to me.

-But looking at the glass, it is all original and the stoppers are original, as well.

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They're not loose. They fit beautifully and you've just missed a few shot glasses then.

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Why do you want to sell it, though? It's a family heirloom.

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Well, 30 years ago we were pro musicians.

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Oh, were you? What did you play?

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-I played guitar.

-And, Barry?

-Keyboard and vocals.

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So we thought, we've been writing songs and getting started again

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about three years ago and we're ready to record some numbers.

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Right, so we need to raise money for the studio fees, basically.

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-Yeah, yeah.

-Not only are there are collectors of Tantaluses, it's a fantastic decorator's piece.

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So, let's put it into auction with a value of 250, OK? To £350.

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-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-Give it that sort of price range,

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-put a fixed reserve on at £250.

-OK.

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Because we're not going to let it go for anything less.

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-That's a good surprise.

-Yeah, yeah.

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But hopefully, look, this could fly away.

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Yeah, yeah. Buy us more studio time.

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-And it's more studio time.

-Yeah.

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-Hello, Barry.

-Hello.

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This is a real eye-catcher, isn't it?

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-It is.

-I think this is great fun. How did you come by this?

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It belonged to my mother-in-law.

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She was the chief cook in this small hotel just outside Chagford on Dartmoor.

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-Right.

-And when she retired several years ago

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-the American owners gave her this...

-Right.

-As a parting gift.

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Right. What was the hotel called, can you remember?

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-It was the Easton Court.

-Oh, right.

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OK. Interesting you should say that it was American owned because that's the key to this item, really.

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It's marked underneath S Kirk & Son Co,

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and beneath that, and this is important, 925/1,000,

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which tells us that it's 925 parts per 1,000 pure silver.

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Now, if it were English it would be hallmarked.

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It would have a set of full hallmarks, they would tell us

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that it was 925 parts per 1,000 without stating that.

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It's the American practice to mark things 925 and that's what we have here.

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As I say, it's a maker called Kirk, who were American,

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they had a workshop in Baltimore,

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but whose descendants were 18th-century English silversmiths.

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The jug itself was made in about 1900

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and I note that it's monogrammed.

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Well, the people that gave it to my mother-in-law were called Cobb

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and the monogram looks to be several Cs in there,

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so I should imagine that it was their family monogram.

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-That makes sense. And they were the people that owned the hotel, were they?

-That's right, yes.

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Good. So, that cements the American connection, which is nice.

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-It's decorated, isn't it, with cherries? There are bunches of grapes.

-Cherries, grapes, all sorts.

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And strawberries. I love this shell motif just beneath the rim

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which just gives it that extra bit of class, really.

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Why have you decided to sell it?

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Well, it's just sitting in the cupboard. The children don't want it.

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-No.

-So, we thought, well, if it's...

-And it's just another thing to clean.

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It's just another thing to clean, that's right.

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And I must say, I think when this is cleaned up,

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and it will clean up very easily, it will look a million dollars.

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It's a very imposing item.

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We need just to think about what it might make.

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I think American silver, generally speaking, is worth slightly less

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than English silver, we've got to be mindful of that.

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I would suggest an estimate of 120 to 160, and a reserve of £100.

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-That would be a fixed reserve of...

-A fixed reserve of £100, but with luck it'll make more than that.

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-That's fine. That sounds fine.

-OK, Barry. Thank you very much.

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-We'll do our best for you.

-Fine. Lovely.

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Before we head off to auction, here's a brief reminder of the great items we're flogging today.

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Popular portable puzzles proving positively perplexing

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and perpetually pleasing posers, and that's as much as I can remember!

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How sad is that? You really need to get out more, you know.

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Yeah, that's sad, I know!

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Helen's tongue-twisting abilities leave Philip puzzled.

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How will her collection of children's puzzles fare at auction?

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We're selling on behalf of a local hospice, but how will the saleroom react to Sue's Moorcroft collection?

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And I love this lot, a pair of silver cotton-reel boxes.

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Philip is confident he can pull in the bidders

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with an estimate of £50 to £80,

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and Alistair is hoping to use the money to buy his dream ring box.

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-It's a cabinet-maker's dream, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-It is, yes.

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Barry and Malcolm, brothers and re-formed band musicians,

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are taking this beautiful mahogany Tantalus to auction,

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but will it be a hit or a miss?

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And Barry hopes his American silver fruit jug

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is going to make top dollar when it goes under the hammer.

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OK, so now it's time to put our first batch of items to the test.

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We've left Torquay and moved along the coastline

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to Eldreds Auction Rooms in the heart of Plymouth,

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so let's go inside.

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And on the rostrum today, the man with all the local knowledge, is auctioneer Anthony Eldred.

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First up, Helen's children's puzzles.

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Well, Helen's been decluttering and this next item is certainly a lot

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that will keep you amused for hours on end. Well, it did you, didn't it?

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-Oh, yeah. I loved them.

-We've got 12 puzzles and they're great fun, aren't they?

-Yeah.

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-I saw Philip playing with them at the valuation day.

-Without success.

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It takes a long time to get the hang of each one of those.

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-Yeah, yeah. But I haven't seen these around for a long, long time.

-I think they're great fun.

-Yeah.

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-Great fun.

-They've been sitting in my loft for so many years now so I might as well.

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The condition's very good. We've got £20 to £40 on them,

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so hopefully someone's going to buy them. Good luck.

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Next is lot 350, which is 12 puzzles. There they are.

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-Fingers crossed, Helen.

-Hours of fun with those,

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and I'm bid a tenner for them.

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At £10. 12 if you want them. At £10.

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Against you all at 10. 12. 15.

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18. 20. At £20.

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22. 25. 28.

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In front here at £28 now.

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Quite sure at 28?

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Spot-on, Philip, mid-estimate.

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-Yes.

-£28. They've gone.

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-It's a manual computer game, isn't it, really?

-Somebody's bought hours of fun with those, haven't they?

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-Yes.

-Hours of fun.

-A good investment.

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£70. Anyone in the room at 300?

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Quite sure, then.

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I think this is a super thing.

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I love this silver fruit jug.

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It's American. We've got a valuation of £120 to £160 put on by David.

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It's embossed with little shells.

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-It's... It's got the look, hasn't it?

-Yeah.

-Yeah. It really has.

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-Why are you selling this?

-Well, we thought whatever we get

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we'll probably put into Premium Bonds and see what happens from there.

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I think you stand a good chance of winning on the Premium Bonds,

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-better than on the Lottery, that's for sure.

-Certainly better than the bank at the moment.

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-Yeah. This should do well, shouldn't it?

-I hope so.

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It's quality. And it's unusual.

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It's got a shell motif, we're by the sea,

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hopefully there's a little bit of a maritime connection which might help it get away.

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We're going to find out right now.

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Next is lot 445, which is a 19th-century American silver jug.

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There it is, a lot of bids for it.

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I'm bid at £190 for it.

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Against you all at 190. 200. And 10.

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220. 230. 240. 250. 260.

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£260. Finished then at 260? 270.

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-Oh, brilliant. They love it!

-280.

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290. 300.

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At £300. At £300 I'll sell it.

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Yes! £300!

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-What a great result.

-I'm very pleased.

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-That's quality for you.

-I'm delighted.

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-That was rare, wasn't it?

-It was rare. A nice thing to bring out to show off to your friends.

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Yeah. Well, there is commission to pay here, but that's a lot of money and that's a lot of Premium Bonds.

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-It is.

-Yeah. I hope you win!

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Well, got as good a chance as anybody else.

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You do, exactly. Yeah, you've got to be in it to win it.

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Next up are these lovely cotton-reel boxes.

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Alistair, cracking lot. My favourite lot of the day, I think, these two little silver cotton-reel holders.

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-Really?

-They may be tiny but, for me, they are a big lot and at £50 to £80.

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I think I'd pay £50 to £80 for one, so buy one, get one free.

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Had a chat to the auctioneer earlier.

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You don't know this, Alistair.

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We both kind of waxed lyrical over them, thinking, "Aren't they lovely?"

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And we thought they'd probably only be worth sort of 50 quid if they didn't

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have the hole in the top that you poke the cotton through, but they're so special, they're so different.

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-I think they are.

-We were sort of thinking, "Well, surely they've got to do £200."

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I mean, that's what I'd like to see, but I don't know.

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-Maybe I'm bigging this up, but I would be prepared to pay £200 for them.

-Are they scarce or rare?

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They're going to really appeal to sewing collectors,

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so if you've got two sewing collectors...

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They're more for that market, really, rather than the silver collector.

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Let's hope they get well over £150, shall we? Here we go.

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It's a little pair of Victorian embossed cotton-reel holders.

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I'm bid £70 for them. Against you all in the room at 70.

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At £70, against you all. And five and 80,

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five and 90, five, 100 and five. At £105, ten if you want them.

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At £105 at the back there.

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All done at 105?

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Yes, £105!

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Not quite what I was hoping for.

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-I was hoping for a bit more, but that's a good price.

-Yes.

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110, 15...

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Well, Barry and Malcolm, now the moment of truth.

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The Tantalus is just about to go under the hammer.

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We're hopefully buying some recording studio time.

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-Hopefully, yes.

-Now, do you need a drummer? Because I know one.

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We do, yes. It's funny you should say that, we do.

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Well, I'm a bit rusty, but I'll give it a go.

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Good luck, guys, anyway and hopefully you can get in that recording studio

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and we might have a big hit on our hands.

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We certainly might get one right now. Here we go.

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Next lot is lot 75, which is

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the Victorian walnut and brass bounded liqueur Tantalus

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and £210 starts that. At 210. 220.

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230. 240. And five. 250.

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-At 250 now in the room.

-Come on.

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Quite sure then, at £250?

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I'll sell it at 250.

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It's gone. Tantalisingly close.

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-Yeah, tantalising.

-But we got rid of it.

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-Yeah, well, that... That'll buy some time, wouldn't it?

-Yeah.

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-Yeah, yeah.

-It will.

-Yeah.

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-Knock out three or four songs.

-Yeah, yeah.

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-Well, send me a copy, won't you?

-We will, definitely.

-Good luck.

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Next up, we've got some real quality.

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It's Moorcroft just about to go under the hammer and all the money is going to charity.

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-So, Sue, tell us which charity.

-I'm very proud today. I'm here for Rowcroft Hospice in Torquay.

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OK. Now, we've got a couple of lots because they've been split up.

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Originally, David, you valued the lamp base and two bowls.

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-Yes, exactly.

-Yes.

-Three items.

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Three items. So, the auctioneer has put the first lot as the lamp base with a lower end at £150,

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-and also the two bowls at a lower end with a reserve at 150.

-Yeah.

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-So it still makes up the same value, but he thinks they'll sell better separately.

-Yeah.

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-OK.

-I'll take his advice.

-Yeah.

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-So, we're going to find out.

-We are.

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Next, lot 203, which is a Moorcroft bottle-shaped table lamp base.

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There it is, decorated fuchsias, and £130 for it. At 130.

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40, if you want it. At £130, then.

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Against you all in the room.

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Are we finished then at 130? 140.

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-Five.

-Oh, good.

-At 145. 150.

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Five. 160 now, behind.

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-That was a sticky start!

-It was.

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At 160, then. Sell at 160.

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£160. The first one away. Now the two bowls.

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The next lot is lot 204, which is the Moorcroft circular Tazza,

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this time decorated with clematis.

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Two pieces in this lot and £150 bid for it. Five if you want it.

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-That's good.

-£150 against you all in the room.

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At 150. Five anywhere? And 155. 160.

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Five. At 165 there, seated.

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Are you all finished at 165?

0:23:010:23:03

-Yes, that's £325 to charity!

-Yeah.

0:23:030:23:05

-Brilliant.

-All going to our hospice.

-Happy with that!

0:23:050:23:08

-Thank you very much.

-That was a good donation, wasn't it?.

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Your maths is better than mine, I couldn't work it out that quickly.

0:23:110:23:14

Lovely, all money for the hospice. Thank you very much.

0:23:140:23:17

Coming up, someone gets overexcited.

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-Where's Margaret gone?

-I can't believe it!

0:23:230:23:26

Come back here, Margaret.

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-Back here. Come back here.

-I can't believe it.

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Gosh, what an exciting moment. That's what auctions are all about.

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I was going to throw it in the bin!

0:23:330:23:34

Come back here, Margaret.

0:23:340:23:36

The Barbican here in Plymouth is home to numerous bars, restaurants,

0:23:430:23:48

cafes and warehouses, but it was also home once to the studio

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of one of Britain's most prolific, but unrecognised,

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painting talents of the 20th century, Robert Lenkiewicz.

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Just 100 yards from the harbour you can find, tucked up on the corner of a warehouse wall,

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a 3,000 square foot mural Lenkiewicz painted in the early 1970s.

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As you can see, it's all clad in wooden batons now, holding it together

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and it's been seriously eroded and weathered by the elements over the years,

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and all that crumbling paint, well, that really is a sad reflection of its former multicoloured glory.

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Finished in 1973, the mural took an Elizabethan theme.

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Notorious for his self-portraits, Lenkiewicz also included himself in the painting.

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Complete with begging bowl, the picture reflects the fact

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that his efforts for this stunning piece of art went unpaid.

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Lenkiewicz's love for painting began at an early age.

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Born in London in 1941 from refugee stock,

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his parents ran a Jewish hotel

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whose residents included survivors of the concentration camps.

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He attended St Martin's College of Art.

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From there he moved on to the Royal Academy, but found the conformity

0:25:050:25:09

too inhibiting and he was expelled for non-attendance.

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He had a studio in Hampstead, but moved to Plymouth in 1969.

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As one of Britain's most eccentric artists, during his lifetime

0:25:160:25:20

his work was never really accepted by the art establishment.

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In fact, not one of Lenkiewicz's paintings hangs in a national or regional gallery.

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However, here at the Plymouth Museum and Art Gallery,

0:25:280:25:32

his work has been given a temporary exhibition

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and it's the first since his death in 2002.

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And to find out more about the man,

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I caught up with Francis Mallett from the Lenkiewicz Foundation.

0:25:400:25:44

Why was Robert dismissed by the art world?

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Well, it's something I've thought about for quite a long time

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and I've come to the conclusion there are probably two main reasons.

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The first is, if you think about his work,

0:25:530:25:55

it really has very little connection with the rest of what was going on

0:25:550:25:59

in the art world in this country at that time.

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From the '60s onwards, if you think about the British art scene

0:26:010:26:04

you have abstraction, you have pop art, photography, conceptual art,

0:26:040:26:08

-installation art and video art, and Robert was a painter that painted in a much more traditional manner.

-Yeah.

0:26:080:26:14

His influences were very different.

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Was he upset by that at the time?

0:26:160:26:18

No, I think the other thing about Robert is he really couldn't care less about that

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and that was one of the great things about him.

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He really was an anti-establishment figure.

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He was very much a thinking painter.

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His subjects were often sociological observations

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of other people, and then later on, more personal observations about his own relationships.

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Tell me a little bit more about the subject matter.

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Yes, well, the first project was vagrancy, but then Robert went

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on to areas such as mental handicap, death, addictive behaviour.

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This was a study into human behaviour at its most basic level.

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And the other side of his work, which covered more personal relationships,

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he used himself as a guinea pig,

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looked at his own responses to the relationships that he was in

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to draw conclusions about human behaviour and psychology.

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Robert Lenkiewicz was drawn to the underprivileged and was fascinated with vagrants and street alcoholics.

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A compassionate man, in the early 1970s he would provide shelter for up to 170 tramps a night.

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Lenkiewicz's treatment of one in particular was to prove highly controversial.

0:27:240:27:29

Well, this tramp was called Diogenes, nicknamed Diogenes by Robert.

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He came across him living in a barrel

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and Robert became very fond of him and nicknamed him Diogenes

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after the Greek philosopher Diogenes who lived in a barrel.

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-Long before Damien Hirst embalmed a shark in resin, Robert embalmed Diogenes, didn't he?

-That's right.

0:27:470:27:53

What was the meaning behind that?

0:27:530:27:55

Well, it was a long-standing agreement

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apparently between Robert and Diogenes

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that when Diogenes died that that's exactly what Robert would do.

0:28:000:28:05

-So it was a little pact.

-It was, but it was also around the time

0:28:050:28:09

that Robert was featuring death predominately in his projects.

0:28:090:28:13

After Diogenes died, Robert explained his views on death.

0:28:130:28:17

One is always strangely compelled by the total presence of the body

0:28:170:28:20

running parallel with the complete absence of the person.

0:28:200:28:23

I don't know if you've witnessed death, but if you see that,

0:28:230:28:26

and I have many times, you'll see there's an interesting association

0:28:260:28:29

and cross reference with witnessing birth.

0:28:290:28:31

A very strange, haunting atmosphere

0:28:310:28:32

and I want to become more familiar with that.

0:28:320:28:35

It's entirely personal.

0:28:350:28:36

Could it become part of the exhibition in the future?

0:28:360:28:38

Well, certainly in the context of perhaps one of Robert's themes,

0:28:380:28:42

either Death or Death And The Maiden,

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or the project that he did called the Diogenes Con Show.

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I don't see any reason why it couldn't be exhibited.

0:28:470:28:50

Robert Lenkiewicz was certainly an unusual character, unconventional.

0:28:510:28:55

He never really endeared himself to the press,

0:28:550:28:59

understandable when you learn that in 1981

0:28:590:29:02

he actually faked his own death to coincide with his Death project.

0:29:020:29:07

Why did Robert fake his own death and what exactly did he do?

0:29:080:29:12

Well, I think Robert really, partly was frustrated.

0:29:120:29:15

He had an exhibition on that wasn't gaining as much attention as he thought it should.

0:29:150:29:20

Was it a PR stunt, then?

0:29:200:29:21

Well, partly, but as with everything with Lenkiewicz

0:29:210:29:25

it also had a much more serious purpose

0:29:250:29:27

and he was beginning his interest in the project on death

0:29:270:29:31

and the thinking behind it was he could never know what it was like to be dead,

0:29:310:29:35

-but he could know what it was like to be thought to be dead.

-Right, OK.

0:29:350:29:40

So, his brother, John, placed a very small low-key obituary

0:29:400:29:45

in a London newspaper

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which got picked up on very quickly in the south-west

0:29:470:29:50

and suddenly it was all over the local press.

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All of Plymouth was mourning and,

0:29:550:29:57

from a lack of recognition for this artist,

0:29:570:30:00

suddenly he was the greatest painter in the south-west.

0:30:000:30:03

Unfortunately, I think the stories got picked up on by

0:30:030:30:07

the national tabloid press and Lenkiewicz became more known for those exploits

0:30:070:30:15

than for the serious and skilful painter that he was.

0:30:150:30:20

Controversial as he was, the art of Robert Lenkiewicz continues to attract divided opinion.

0:30:200:30:26

Sadly, when he died in 2002 from a serious heart condition,

0:30:260:30:31

150 paintings had to be sold off to help cover massive debts.

0:30:310:30:36

The Lenkiewicz Foundation's aim is to open a permanent collection

0:30:360:30:40

of Robert's remaining work in the near future

0:30:400:30:42

and if he was alive today he'd probably shudder at the term The People's Painter,

0:30:420:30:47

but in effect that's exactly what he's become,

0:30:470:30:50

proving that art can be genuinely concerned with social and domestic issues,

0:30:500:30:55

and to that end, he remains one of the serious contemporary painters of modern history.

0:30:550:31:01

Now back to the Palace Hotel in Torquay for more valuations

0:31:080:31:13

and Philip has spotted a rather nice necklace.

0:31:130:31:17

-Lynn, are you local?

-No, I'm a... I'm from Essex.

-You're an Essex girl?

0:31:170:31:20

-No, I wasn't born there, I was born in Lancashire.

-Oh, right.

0:31:200:31:23

-You've got around a bit, haven't you?

-Yeah.

0:31:230:31:26

-I married someone from the south.

-Yeah.

0:31:260:31:28

-And when did you come to Torquay?

-I bought a holiday home ten years ago.

0:31:280:31:33

-Yeah.

-And I've been visiting ever since and I heard the other day that the Flog It was on...

-Yeah.

0:31:330:31:38

And I decided to travel down yesterday so I could come today.

0:31:380:31:41

Good girl. So, you're not a Devonian, you're an interloper!

0:31:410:31:44

Yes, I am afraid.

0:31:440:31:45

-Where's this from?

-This was given to me on my 18th birthday by my mother.

0:31:450:31:50

-Not long ago.

-Not long ago, no.

0:31:500:31:52

-Yeah.

-Doesn't seem it.

0:31:520:31:54

And I wore it a lot, when I was given it, to dances.

0:31:540:31:57

I asked my mother whether it was emeralds because emerald was my birthstone.

0:31:570:32:01

-That would be nice, wouldn't it?

-But she said she couldn't afford that.

0:32:010:32:05

-Yeah.

-So, we thought it was peridot.

0:32:050:32:08

-Peridot.

-Yes, peridot.

-Yeah.

0:32:080:32:10

And that's what I've always assumed they were, yes.

0:32:100:32:14

Well, I think this was made round about 1890, 1900

0:32:140:32:17

-and I think it's lovely.

-Yeah, it is pretty.

0:32:170:32:20

I cheated a little bit because before I looked at it

0:32:200:32:24

I got one of my colleagues, who's a jewellery expert,

0:32:240:32:27

to look at the stones and she tells me that they're not peridots,

0:32:270:32:31

but they're in fact glass.

0:32:310:32:32

That's a bit disappointing, isn't it?

0:32:320:32:34

-Well, a little bit, yes.

-But...

-I enjoyed wearing it though, so...

0:32:340:32:38

There's two things about looking at that automatically that I would question.

0:32:380:32:42

-The first thing is have you noticed that little, little circle loop just on the bottom there?

-Yeah.

0:32:420:32:47

-Well, that would have had a dropper on the bottom.

-Yeah.

0:32:470:32:50

-So, it's incomplete from there.

-Yeah.

0:32:500:32:52

-And the other thing that really amazes me is that you said you used to wear this often.

-Yes, I did.

0:32:520:32:58

Well, does it not... Do you not think that's just for a very, very small neck?

0:32:580:33:02

-I was very slim and I had a tiny neck.

-Because, I mean, that is just... It's almost...

0:33:020:33:08

-It was like for a... I know, it was for a young girl, you see.

-Well, I'm not sure it was for a young girl.

0:33:080:33:13

-What I think has happened is that this chain has been reduced in length.

-Yes, probably.

0:33:130:33:18

-So, we come to the disappointing bit now.

-Yeah.

-Because as a...

0:33:180:33:23

-As peridot and gold, it probably would have been £300 to £500.

-Yes.

0:33:230:33:28

I think now you're probably going to be looking at £100 to £150.

0:33:280:33:31

It might go and make a little bit more because it's so decorative, but are you happy to sell it?

0:33:310:33:36

Yes, I am, yes. She gave me quite a few things.

0:33:360:33:39

-Really?

-And some of them I wear.

0:33:390:33:41

-Oh, that's good.

-But I've never worn this now for about 30 years.

0:33:410:33:44

-So, we're going to get it flogged, are we?

-Yes.

0:33:440:33:47

What are you going to spend the money on? The trip back to Essex!

0:33:470:33:50

-Coming back and forward to Devon!

-Well, you've got to come back now to the auction, haven't you?

0:33:500:33:54

-Yes, I have, yes.

-Right, fingers crossed it'll do well.

-Thank you very much.

0:33:540:33:58

-Jennifer.

-Yes.

0:34:040:34:06

My friends will laugh when they see this because I'm the most unmusical person in the world, I'm afraid,

0:34:060:34:12

but I do know that it's a euphonium and we know, too, don't we,

0:34:120:34:17

-that it was made by Boosey & Co?

-Yes.

0:34:170:34:20

Who are well-known makers of musical instruments.

0:34:200:34:23

-Yes.

-And indeed publishers of sheet music.

-Yes.

0:34:230:34:28

This must have been manufactured before Boosey became Boosey & Hawkes.

0:34:280:34:33

-Yeah, we've traced the serial number back to 1920.

-1920. OK, that's good.

0:34:330:34:39

-It has, as it tells us here, compensating pistons.

-Right.

0:34:390:34:43

Which is just an extra sophistication

0:34:430:34:45

which makes it just that little bit more interesting.

0:34:450:34:48

But I must say, I think its value really lies in the fact that it's a bit of fun.

0:34:480:34:53

I mean, there will be people who will be interested in buying this as a musical instrument.

0:34:530:34:57

-It has a sort of sculptural quality, doesn't it?

-Yes, it does, yeah.

0:34:570:35:00

-It's quite pretty.

-Have you ever played it yourself?

-No.

-No.

0:35:000:35:04

I'm not sure I'd have enough puff.

0:35:040:35:05

If Charlie Ross were here, sadly he isn't today, he would undoubtedly play it or at least try to play it.

0:35:050:35:11

-Try to!

-And he would scare everyone off. He would very quickly clear the room.

0:35:110:35:15

-But it would be rather fun to hear someone play it.

-Yes.

0:35:150:35:18

-I'm not going to do it and obviously you're not.

-No.

0:35:180:35:20

-How did you come by it?

-Well, my husband's younger sister used to be in a brass band.

0:35:200:35:25

She plays the trombone, but they needed a euphonium player

0:35:250:35:29

and I'm not quite sure how compatible they are,

0:35:290:35:32

-but she used to play it in the brass band.

-And why...

0:35:320:35:36

Why do you want to be rid of it?

0:35:360:35:38

Well, it's just taking up space that we haven't got at the moment,

0:35:380:35:42

nobody uses it, so it needs to go to a good home.

0:35:420:35:45

-Now, in my view, this is going to make between 60 and £100.

-Right.

0:35:450:35:50

I think it will be sold, actually, to someone who will use it,

0:35:500:35:54

perhaps someone who has a son or a daughter who wants to learn to play the euphonium.

0:35:540:35:58

There is a possibility that someone will buy it, you know,

0:35:580:36:02

-as a bit of a joke really to show off to their friends.

-Yes.

0:36:020:36:05

I'm tempted to think in terms of turning it upside down and putting flowers in it,

0:36:050:36:10

-but that's probably stretching one's imagination just a little bit too far.

-Yes.

0:36:100:36:14

-So, if we went ahead at 60 to £100 with a reserve of £50?

-Yeah, that would be fine.

0:36:140:36:19

-You'd be happy with that, would you?

-Yes, yeah.

0:36:190:36:21

OK, well, we'll do our best for you, and perhaps when it gets to the sale room,

0:36:210:36:25

-there'll be someone there who can play it for us.

-That's it, yeah, to see if it works.

0:36:250:36:29

Margaret, how are you doing?

0:36:330:36:35

-I'm very well, thank you.

-Very well.

0:36:350:36:38

That is not a local accent, is it?

0:36:380:36:39

-I'm from Glasgow.

-Glasgow.

-Originally from Glasgow.

0:36:390:36:41

-I moved down here when I got married.

-You got married.

0:36:410:36:44

Got married to Alec in 1962. How long ago was that?

0:36:440:36:47

-Oh, don't go there, don't go there.

-I can't remember.

0:36:470:36:50

And what... And what did he do?

0:36:500:36:52

-First of all, we moved down here, he was in the building trade.

-Yeah.

0:36:520:36:56

Then he, many years after the building trade, he self-taught himself to dive.

0:36:560:37:01

-Really?

-Three of them went out...

-They were professional divers?

0:37:010:37:05

-Professional diving.

-And what was that for, for shellfish?

0:37:050:37:08

Shellfish, scallops, crayfish, big lobsters and they made a really good living.

0:37:080:37:12

-What about sunken treasure? Did he ever find any sunken treasure?

-Oh, they found loads of stuff.

0:37:120:37:17

So this, presumably, is from one of his expeditions?

0:37:170:37:20

It was. He was diving and...

0:37:200:37:23

It's unbelievable, a glint of the sun through the water

0:37:230:37:26

-and a corner, just a corner of that, was on the seabed.

-Right.

0:37:260:37:33

And he scooped it away and there it was and he brought it up,

0:37:330:37:37

and 30-odd years I've had it now, we've had it.

0:37:370:37:41

Where did he find it, then? Was he diving off the coast here?

0:37:410:37:44

Off the coast of Torbay, way out.

0:37:440:37:46

So, we've got here a brass plaque.

0:37:460:37:48

-Yes.

-OK, and it's got 355. I'm not sure what...

-I don't know.

-Not sure what that's all about.

0:37:480:37:53

-No.

-Palmers.

-Palmers shipbuilding.

0:37:530:37:55

-Shipbuilding & Iron Company Limited.

-Newcastle upon Tyne.

-1877.

0:37:550:38:00

-Yes.

-So...

0:38:000:38:02

And presumably this is your research?

0:38:020:38:05

-Yes. I wrote to Palmers.

-Yeah, who don't exist.

0:38:050:38:09

Well, I didn't know that. And then, months after, I got this letter

0:38:090:38:14

saying they'd passed the Palmers letter to Vickers shipbuilding.

0:38:140:38:19

-Yeah.

-And the chief Admiral, whatever he's called, sent me this letter.

0:38:190:38:23

I think he's the chief architect, my love! He's not an admiral!

0:38:230:38:26

-Oh, whatever.

-You've promoted him well!

0:38:260:38:28

And then they sent me this print of the ships they use to build.

0:38:280:38:32

-So, if we just look at this here.

-Yes.

0:38:320:38:34

-He says, "I am interested to hear of your husband's find and would like to know more about it."

-Yeah.

0:38:340:38:40

-"Was there any indication as to the vessel from which the plate could have come?"

-No.

0:38:400:38:44

"Palmers started building ships in 1852 and had built some 350 by 1877."

0:38:440:38:51

-Having looked at that, we've got 1877 here.

-Yeah.

0:38:510:38:56

-I wonder if that 355 is, perhaps that's the 355th ship they built.

-It might be. I've no idea.

0:38:560:39:02

I think at auction with this information allied to it,

0:39:020:39:05

and I think it would be good to give that with it.

0:39:050:39:09

-Yeah, you can.

-I think we can put a cautious estimate of, sort of, 80 to £120 on it.

-Right.

0:39:090:39:14

-We'll put a reserve on it of £60.

-Right.

0:39:140:39:16

-I have sold a name plaque from a ship for the thick end of £1,000.

-Yeah.

0:39:160:39:20

So, it wouldn't surprise me if this really did take off,

0:39:200:39:23

-but I think the fact that it's sort of lower down the level...

-Yes, yes, that's fine.

0:39:230:39:27

-It might be of interest to somebody.

-Yeah. Why do you want to sell it?

0:39:270:39:31

-I don't want it.

-You don't want it?

-I don't want it, no.

0:39:310:39:33

What will you do with £100 if it makes it?

0:39:330:39:35

-I don't know. Spend it. Spend it!

-On that note...

-Spend it!

0:39:350:39:38

-Let's put it in the auction and spend it, shall we?

-Yes, spend it!

0:39:380:39:42

-Well done, you.

-What the heck.

0:39:420:39:43

-Hello, Heather.

-Hello, David.

-I love this.

0:39:470:39:50

We have two for the price of one.

0:39:500:39:53

If you like pocket watches, there's a pocket watch.

0:39:530:39:55

If you like wristwatches, there's a wristwatch.

0:39:550:39:58

Tell me a bit about it.

0:39:580:39:59

Well, I inherited it from my mother, who in turn

0:39:590:40:03

-got it from her great-aunt Julia who always wore quality jewellery.

-Right.

0:40:030:40:08

So it came as the two pieces, but my mother used to wear that piece

0:40:080:40:13

just on a gold bow as a brooch that she used to wear most times that she went shopping.

0:40:130:40:19

-So she used it every day?

-Yeah.

0:40:190:40:21

I think what's happened here is that,

0:40:210:40:24

conscious of the fact that pocket watches

0:40:240:40:27

were going out of fashion,

0:40:270:40:29

somebody has made this bracelet mount to match the pocket watch.

0:40:290:40:35

Pocket watches became unfashionable at the end of the 19th century.

0:40:350:40:40

-The pocket watch is in an 18-carat gold case, which is French.

-Yes.

0:40:400:40:48

The movement is Swiss and the dial is enamel.

0:40:480:40:52

The bracelet itself is English, marked 18-carat, and the two have

0:40:520:41:01

been, as I say, married together to the extent that the detail here...

0:41:010:41:06

the winder and the loop...

0:41:060:41:07

have actually been copied on the mount, which I think is fascinating.

0:41:070:41:11

So the whole thing is symmetrical.

0:41:110:41:14

-Why do you want to sell it?

-Well, in this day and age, you can't really wear it.

0:41:140:41:19

It's not suitable or practical, so I'd rather see it go to someone

0:41:190:41:23

that could enjoy it and have the lifestyle...

0:41:230:41:25

And you can buy yourself a nice, practical watch.

0:41:250:41:28

-Well, I'd like to buy a nice piece of jewellery that I could wear every day.

-Something that's wearable.

0:41:280:41:35

Wearable, quality and small.

0:41:350:41:37

I quite agree. That's a lovely thought.

0:41:370:41:39

I consider these together, and of course they should

0:41:390:41:43

be sold as one lot, to have a value in the region of £200 to £300.

0:41:430:41:48

-Right.

-I would suggest a reserve of just under £200.

-That would be fine.

0:41:480:41:52

-Say 180.

-That would be fine.

0:41:520:41:55

Here on the South Devon coast, just along the shoreline from Torquay,

0:42:140:42:17

is the Babbacombe Cliff Railway which was built in 1926.

0:42:170:42:22

The need for this funicular railway grew out of Torquay's booming tourist industry

0:42:220:42:26

as visitors flocked to enjoy the town's beaches and holiday attractions.

0:42:260:42:31

This railway starts at the top of the cliff here and goes all the way down the bottom to Oddicombe Beach,

0:42:310:42:38

and Oddicombe is one of the most popular beaches in Torquay.

0:42:380:42:43

There are only 27 cliff railways in the United Kingdom.

0:42:470:42:52

The one here at Babbacombe is one of only two in Devon.

0:42:520:42:55

The other is at Linton, on the north coast.

0:42:550:42:58

Now the Babbacombe Cliff Railway has recently broken new ground because it's the first cliff railway

0:42:580:43:03

to be fully modernised in the last decade, making way for others to follow in its wake.

0:43:030:43:09

I'm here to meet a chap who's a massive fan of funicular railways and he's responsible

0:43:110:43:16

for modernising this one and his name's David Cooper.

0:43:160:43:19

Hi, pleased to meet you, and thanks for talking to me today.

0:43:190:43:22

How did you get involved with the Babbacombe Railway?

0:43:220:43:24

I got a phone call in 2003 to say there'd been an incident down here

0:43:240:43:28

and they needed a chartered engineer to inspect it,

0:43:280:43:31

and then I've been involved ever since.

0:43:310:43:33

This particular cliff railway is called a funicular railway.

0:43:330:43:36

They're not all called that, and what does it mean?

0:43:360:43:38

-Well "funicular" in two terms is actually a Latin word and it means "of rope".

-Right.

0:43:380:43:45

And so even an ordinary traditional lift is a funicular.

0:43:450:43:48

Many people think it's because they're inclined, but that's not the case.

0:43:480:43:51

There's various different types. Over at Padstow there's a rack and pinion one,

0:43:510:43:55

the one you've already mentioned at Linton is a water-balance one,

0:43:550:43:59

no electricity involved in that one at all, and some are drum-drive,

0:43:590:44:02

so just like a crane and the ropes go round the drum.

0:44:020:44:05

Well, let's get down to the nitty-gritty.

0:44:050:44:07

Can you explain to the layman, like me, exactly how this one works?

0:44:070:44:10

Yes. This is an electrical traction one, so we've got a motor downstairs

0:44:100:44:15

so we need to go down into the depths below the station and I'll show you how it all works.

0:44:150:44:19

-Brilliant! Follow you.

-Thank you.

0:44:190:44:22

Although the principal design hasn't changed since the 1920s

0:44:230:44:26

the motor has been replaced to make it safer and more energy-efficient.

0:44:260:44:31

I'm quite surprised, because it's a small engine. Is this it?

0:44:360:44:40

This is it.

0:44:400:44:42

Most of the stuff goes on outside on the track in terms of signalling.

0:44:420:44:45

So talk me through how the separate components work.

0:44:450:44:48

OK. This is the motor and it takes signals from the track,

0:44:480:44:52

from the position switches and the encoder on the end of the motor here

0:44:520:44:56

and that controls the speed of the lift.

0:44:560:44:58

It accelerates it to make its speed and then it decelerates it into the station.

0:44:580:45:03

This here is the brake and the brake holds the lift when it's in a station.

0:45:030:45:07

The motor drives it to a stop and the brake holds it, just like a parking brake, or handbrake on your car.

0:45:070:45:12

Yeah.

0:45:120:45:13

Down here we have the gearbox and what that does is that takes this high-speed shaft which is rotating

0:45:130:45:18

at 1,100 revs per minute and gears it down.

0:45:180:45:23

It literally is just a gearbox and that in turn turns the traction tube over there.

0:45:230:45:27

I can see that... Which drives that wheel as well.

0:45:270:45:30

Indeed, through a double-wrap arrangement, then go up to the diverters and then out to the track.

0:45:300:45:35

-Yeah.

-To the end of the cars.

0:45:350:45:37

Very simple. Very, very simple.

0:45:370:45:39

I was expecting so much more!

0:45:390:45:41

Well, if you think about it as well, with an ordinary passenger lift,

0:45:410:45:44

the whole of the weight is taken by the gearbox and the motor

0:45:440:45:47

whereas here, cos we're on an angle,

0:45:470:45:49

a lot of the weight is taken downwards into the ground

0:45:490:45:52

so, therefore, it's not as big as you might have been expecting.

0:45:520:45:56

But it wasn't just the motor that was modernised.

0:45:560:45:59

From 2005, David and his team also replaced the carriages and the track.

0:45:590:46:04

So you actually oversaw all the restoration project.

0:46:040:46:07

-How long did it take?

-It took us two years, over two seasons.

0:46:070:46:10

We took it out for the first season, then put it back in

0:46:100:46:13

and then completed the works during the closed season.

0:46:130:46:16

I see, so you kept it open all the time over the two years?

0:46:160:46:19

During the summer, during the season when Torbay required it to be open.

0:46:190:46:23

And what was the reception like? Was it a really nice opening party?

0:46:230:46:26

Yeah. On...

0:46:260:46:28

It was the 1st of April 2006, we all met here

0:46:280:46:31

and we replicated the opening from the 1st of April 1926,

0:46:310:46:36

so it was 80 years and in fact one of the ladies who rode on the lift car on that first date was here!

0:46:360:46:41

Oh, brilliant! How lovely! Well, I can't wait to have another go.

0:46:410:46:45

-Shall we get inside?

-Yep, let's go and have a play.

0:46:450:46:47

So how many people can fit in the carriage?

0:46:530:46:55

This is a forty-person carriage.

0:46:550:46:57

-Actually, it's quite a smooth ride, really, isn't it? How fast does it go?

-Two and a half metres a second.

0:46:570:47:02

And what sort of angle are we going down at?

0:47:020:47:04

The incline is actually 22 degrees on this one.

0:47:040:47:07

It looks steeper when you look in reverse, actually!

0:47:070:47:10

-A trick of the eye!

-Yeah.

0:47:100:47:13

What a fantastic view!

0:47:130:47:16

-This has got to be a great way of coming down the cliff!

-Absolutely!

0:47:190:47:23

There's obviously another operative, in here, yeah?

0:47:230:47:25

Yes, we have two down here, we have a person operating the doors and a person taking your money!

0:47:250:47:30

-Oh, right! We pay at this end?

-You do!

0:47:300:47:34

Lovely sea air!

0:47:380:47:41

Gorgeous, gorgeous beach!

0:47:410:47:44

I can see why it's important to keep this open.

0:47:440:47:47

It's an absolutely stunning beach and it does get quite full.

0:47:470:47:50

They sometimes see 100,000 people a year down here, but in its heyday -

0:47:500:47:54

obviously the British holiday seasons back in the '50s and '60s -

0:47:540:47:58

-it was regularly seeing a quarter of a million people down here.

-Yeah.

0:47:580:48:01

When you're up at the top, you know the flags are sort of blowing in a breeze up there and you think,

0:48:010:48:07

-ooh, it's going to be quite gusty down here, but it's not at all, is it?

-No, far from it.

0:48:070:48:10

Because it's so enclosed with all this sandstone, it has its own little microclimate down there.

0:48:100:48:15

Do you have to alert people on the beach because... When do they know it's the last car?

0:48:150:48:20

What actually happens down here is we have a bell.

0:48:200:48:22

-I saw that. A ship's bell?

-It's an old ship's bell from a ship called Talca.

0:48:220:48:27

Well, it's now quarter to five.

0:48:270:48:29

-In that case, you may as well ring the bell.

-Shall we?

-Absolutely!

-Let's alert them.

0:48:290:48:33

This is like last orders, isn't it?

0:48:330:48:35

-Give it a good old go.

-Give it a good old go.

0:48:360:48:39

BELL RINGS

0:48:390:48:41

No time to build a sandcastle!

0:48:450:48:47

Here's a quick reminder of what's heading off to auction.

0:48:470:48:52

Lynn is hoping she'll be lucky and find a golden price for her necklace.

0:48:560:49:01

My friends will laugh when they see this because I'm the most unmusical person in the world.

0:49:010:49:05

David makes an admission, but can Jennifer's euphonium blow the buyers away in the saleroom?

0:49:050:49:11

And finally, will the bidders fall for Heather's gold pocket watch,

0:49:110:49:14

which David thinks is a real bargain?

0:49:140:49:17

Will it be anchors aweigh for Margaret's brass plaque?

0:49:210:49:25

But before it goes under the hammer I found a few minutes

0:49:260:49:29

to sit down with Anthony, who's done a bit more research for us.

0:49:290:49:33

There's a lovely story we've uncovered here, Anthony.

0:49:330:49:36

It belongs to Margaret, this brass plaque.

0:49:360:49:39

Now, her husband, whilst diving off Torquay, found this on the seabed

0:49:390:49:42

and we've got a value of £80 to £120 put on this.

0:49:420:49:45

-80 to 120? Yes.

-A bit of a come and buy me.

0:49:450:49:47

It doesn't sound a lot, does it, for a piece of maritime history?

0:49:470:49:51

I think the added interest to this, not only do we know which vessel it came from,

0:49:510:49:57

but the company itself has a lot of history and it was sold in 1933,

0:49:570:50:02

sold on and then closed down, subsequently.

0:50:020:50:05

And the closing of this company was credited as part of the reason for the Jarrow March

0:50:050:50:11

because so many people were made redundant at the time.

0:50:110:50:14

Surely, we've got to do a lot more than 80 to 120.

0:50:140:50:16

Has there been much interest?

0:50:160:50:18

We've had a bit of interest in it, certainly. And I...

0:50:180:50:21

My initial reaction when I saw it was probably 200 to 300,

0:50:210:50:24

something like that, but I think it will do even better than that.

0:50:240:50:28

-Oh, thanks, Anthony. Well, this is certainly the one to watch later on in the show.

-Indeed.

0:50:280:50:32

That item could do really well, but before we see it auctioned off,

0:50:320:50:36

let's see how we get on with the gold pocket watch.

0:50:360:50:40

Heather, this is a super item. I know it was your mum's.

0:50:400:50:42

It's the watch mounted into the bracelet, and she wore it a lot.

0:50:420:50:45

We've got £200 to £300 on this, put on by David, our expert.

0:50:450:50:49

It's rare and it's unusual.

0:50:490:50:51

-Yes.

-I can understand why you want to sell it.

0:50:510:50:53

It's not that practical, is it?

0:50:530:50:55

It's not practical but it's gorgeous.

0:50:550:50:58

Your mother used to wear this as a brooch.

0:50:580:51:00

Yes, most days she'd wear it on a suit...

0:51:000:51:03

-Oh, bless.

-..and she loved it.

0:51:030:51:05

You could wear it either way, showing the clock or showing the back with the scrolling.

0:51:050:51:09

She had real style, then, didn't she? Oh, I could just imagine it.

0:51:090:51:12

-It is a good piece.

-Yeah, absolutely. I love it.

0:51:120:51:15

Well, let's find out what the bidders think. Here we go.

0:51:150:51:18

It's a ladies' 18-carat-gold, cased, half-hunter keyless pocket watch.

0:51:180:51:23

I'm bid £200 for it exactly.

0:51:230:51:28

-Straight in.

-210, 220, 230, 240, 250, 260, 270.

0:51:280:51:35

At £270. 280, 290.

0:51:350:51:38

At 290, still in the room.

0:51:380:51:41

300. And 10. Against you seated.

0:51:410:51:45

320, 330, 340, 350, 360, 370, 380, 390, £400, and 10.

0:51:450:51:58

At £410 now.

0:51:580:52:00

Bidding's standing at £410.

0:52:000:52:03

Last chance, then. All done at 410?

0:52:030:52:07

That's a good sound.

0:52:080:52:09

-A solid whack of the old gavel.

-I didn't expect to get that much.

0:52:090:52:13

I thought I'd get maybe a couple of hundred and I'd buy some Premium Bonds. It's something I've never had.

0:52:130:52:19

Well, treat yourself. Treat yourself, pamper yourself to a nice

0:52:190:52:22

-little long-weekend break.

-That'd be lovely.

0:52:220:52:24

We're just about to sell Lynn's necklace and she's had it in a drawer for an awful long time

0:52:300:52:35

-and you were given this when you were 18 years old.

-That's right.

0:52:350:52:38

-Gosh.

-A long... No, not long...

0:52:380:52:40

Not that long ago, was it? No, no, not really. I know we're looking for £100 plus, aren't we?

0:52:400:52:46

It would be nice if it broke through that barrier. It just depends what people think it is, doesn't it?

0:52:460:52:50

Yes, yeah. Why do you want to sell it now?

0:52:500:52:52

-I know it's been tucked away in a drawer.

-Yes.

0:52:520:52:54

-Well, it won't really fit. It won't fit me any more. It's a very small chain.

-OK.

0:52:540:53:00

-And it's really for a Victorian maiden, probably...

-Yeah.

0:53:000:53:03

-Who had a slender neck.

-It's late 1800s, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:53:030:53:07

But it is lovely. I like this.

0:53:070:53:09

We need a lady with a slender neck in the saleroom.

0:53:090:53:12

Let's hope there's plenty out there.

0:53:120:53:14

-It sounds like a giraffe.

-It does actually, doesn't it?

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Here we go, let's find out what it's worth.

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Next is lot 506.

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It's a green paste set necklace in its box and I'm bid £110 for it.

0:53:210:53:26

-Straight in. It's gone.

-120.

0:53:260:53:27

-130. 140. 150.

-And there's more.

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-150. 160. 170.

-I can't believe it.

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-180.

-It's still going.

-180 now.

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At £180. I'll take five if you like?

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All done at £180.

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-180!

-Top job.

0:53:400:53:42

There was, wasn't it?

0:53:420:53:45

How about that? That's very good.

0:53:450:53:47

-Yeah. I wasn't quite expecting that, really.

-No, nor was I, actually.

0:53:470:53:50

What a great result and I know that's covered all of Lynn's travel costs today,

0:53:500:53:54

-because you've come down from Essex to see us.

-Yes.

0:53:540:53:57

Well, have a safe trip back as well, won't you?

0:53:570:53:59

And it's been worth every moment seeing my favourite men.

0:53:590:54:02

Ah!

0:54:020:54:04

£70.

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In the room at 300.

0:54:080:54:09

And now something for all you brass-band enthusiasts.

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We've got a euphonium, belonging to Jennifer here, with a value of 60 to £100 put on by our expert, David.

0:54:140:54:21

Now, it's made by Boosey before they joined with Hawkes, isn't it?

0:54:210:54:24

-Yes, it is.

-I like the sound of brass bands.

0:54:240:54:26

I think they are great. There's not too many down south, unfortunately.

0:54:260:54:30

-No, not that I'm aware of.

-Which is a shame, isn't it, really?

0:54:300:54:33

-Yes.

-But it's a good thing, though. Good thing.

-I liked it, yes.

0:54:330:54:35

The condition is there as well, so hopefully...

0:54:350:54:37

Hopefully there's some brass bands in Plymouth and they might just want a euphonium.

0:54:370:54:41

We're going to find out right now.

0:54:410:54:43

Next is lot 152 which is a plated euphonium.

0:54:430:54:47

There it is. And £40 starts that.

0:54:470:54:49

At £40. At 40. Two anywhere? At 42. Five. Eight. 50.

0:54:490:54:53

-Two. In front there.

-That's good.

0:54:530:54:55

£52. I'll take five now. 55. 58.

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At £58 in front.

0:55:000:55:03

All out before. At £58 I'll sell it.

0:55:030:55:06

-£58.

-Good.

-And the money is going to your son?

0:55:060:55:09

Son, yeah. He's just turned 17

0:55:090:55:11

and he wants this, that and the other for his guitars, so...

0:55:110:55:15

-It costs a fortune!

-I wish him luck, I wish him luck.

0:55:150:55:17

-Is he playing in a band?

-Not yet.

0:55:170:55:19

Him and his brother are trying to get one together, so they're working on it.

0:55:190:55:23

That's the fun of it, isn't it?

0:55:230:55:24

You can't really play a euphonium in a rock band, can you?

0:55:240:55:27

No, it doesn't quite fit.

0:55:270:55:28

You know, I think you're brass ship's plaque is going to cause

0:55:330:55:36

-a right old stir, Margaret, I really do.

-Good.

0:55:360:55:39

80 to 120, Philip's put on this.

0:55:390:55:41

A bit of a come and buy me. But I had a chat to the auctioneer

0:55:410:55:45

and we thought two to three, possibly more, even.

0:55:450:55:48

I said on the valuation day, I've sold something like this before that's made £1,000.

0:55:480:55:51

-But, yeah, it's a difficult thing to put a price on.

-Yes.

0:55:510:55:55

-But, look, let's hope...

-Well, we all live in hope.

0:55:550:55:58

-..it just flies away. That's what auctions are all about.

-Absolutely.

0:55:580:56:01

-That's what auctions are all about.

-Well, it establishes the value.

0:56:010:56:04

Yeah, and if two people really want it they'll pay over the market value for it.

0:56:040:56:08

Well, let's hope it goes and I can go and spend, spend, spend!

0:56:080:56:11

Next lot is lot 113.

0:56:110:56:13

It's the brass nameplate for Palmers Shipbuilding & Iron Company.

0:56:130:56:17

There it is up on the wall.

0:56:170:56:19

Several bids for it. I'm bid £180 to start it.

0:56:190:56:23

At £180 against the room. 190. 200.

0:56:230:56:27

-And 10. 220. 230 now.

-That's good.

0:56:270:56:29

240. 250. 260. 270. 280. 290.

0:56:290:56:35

-300. And 20. 340.

-Now we're flying.

0:56:350:56:38

360. 380. 400. At £400.

0:56:380:56:41

Any more in the room at 400?

0:56:410:56:44

And 20. 440. 460. 480.

0:56:440:56:48

500. And 20. 540. 560. 580. 600.

0:56:480:56:53

I was going to throw that out.

0:56:530:56:56

And 20. 640. 660. 680. 700?

0:56:560:57:02

-750, if you like?

-750?

-780.

0:57:020:57:05

-This way.

-At 780.

0:57:080:57:10

800 now. And 20. 850.

0:57:100:57:13

-850!

-880.

-Wait a minute, get a seat!

0:57:130:57:15

900. And 50.

0:57:150:57:18

At £950.

0:57:180:57:20

I'm... I'm flabbergasted.

0:57:200:57:23

-£1,100.

-1,100?

0:57:230:57:25

-1,100, yes.

-Oh, I feel sick.

0:57:250:57:28

1,200.

0:57:280:57:31

At £1,200 then, last chance.

0:57:310:57:34

Are you all done then at 1,200?

0:57:340:57:37

-£1,200.

-Yes!

0:57:370:57:40

-Where's Margaret gone?

-I can't believe it.

0:57:400:57:42

Come back here, Margaret!

0:57:420:57:44

-Back here. Come back here.

-I can't believe it.

0:57:440:57:46

Gosh, what an exciting moment.

0:57:460:57:47

-That's what auctions are all about.

-I was going to throw it in the bin!

0:57:470:57:51

Come back here, Margaret! £1,200.

0:57:510:57:54

-Good job I didn't throw it in the bin.

-It was, wasn't it?

0:57:540:57:57

Mmm. Philip, thank you.

0:57:570:57:59

Don't thank me, I sort of got it wrong, didn't I?

0:57:590:58:02

-You did. You got it wrong.

-It was a come and buy me.

0:58:020:58:04

-There's commission to pay, don't forget.

-But I'll still come out with a few bob.

0:58:040:58:09

What a lovely moment and what a fantastic end to our day here in Plymouth.

0:58:090:58:14

-I hope you've enjoyed the show.

-My friend said...

0:58:140:58:16

My friends have said I wouldn't dream of kissing these men but I will...

0:58:160:58:23

I hope you've enjoyed today's show.

0:58:230:58:25

-Kiss them.

-Please join us again soon for many more surprises on Flog It!

0:58:250:58:29

Thank you. Goodbye!

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