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What fabulous weather. Just the kind of day to be on the coast

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and this beautiful beach is called Oddicombe, and it's situated in Torquay

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and that's where the show comes from today.

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Torquay is situated on the South Devon coast in the area known as Torbay

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and Torbay has been a firm favourite with tourists ever since the Victorian era.

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It's been dubbed "The English Riviera."

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And what better attraction for visitors to the area than this...

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the Babbacombe Cliff Railway. You can just see one of the carriages.

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Now that takes visitors from the beach, where I'm standing,

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right up to the top of the cliff

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and later on in the show I'll be coming back here

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to find out how this marvellous feat of engineering works but, for now,

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I'm heading off to the centre of Torquay to the valuation day and I'm going to be taking that quick route.

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And there is quite a crowd outside the Palace Hotel,

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so it's just as well today's experts, Philip Serrell and new boy David Fletcher,

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have already got stuck in, browsing Torquay's antiques and collectables.

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Now they'll have to continue looking inside as it's time to get the doors open

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and it looks as if something speedy has already caught David's eye.

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Alan, when you said you'd brought a vintage car in,

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I thought we were going to have to go out to the car park to look at it!

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Now, how long have you owned this?

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It's difficult to remember, I seem to remember it being around at least 20, 30 years

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but I think when one of the grandparents passed away, it came my way then.

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-So you didn't play with it as a boy?

-I didn't, actually.

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-So you weren't responsible for the damage?

-No. I've only ever known it to look like it is and there we are.

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OK. The damage is a problem.

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It's a little bit rusty, there's metal fatigue, I think, in his trouser bottom there

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and in the hem of his coat.

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This was made in Germany by the Leamann Factory.

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In their day, they were prolific manufacturers of this sort of item.

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If you like, they were the Dinky and Corgi toymakers of the early 20th century

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and this model is known as a "Tut-Tut"

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and I think that must refer to the fact that, if we look inside, we can see these bellows

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which are operated by the clockwork motor

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which would have caused his horn to sound.

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This particular design was patented in 1903, by which time the factory had been going for some time

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and this model continued in production until 1935.

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One of the things I love about it is his driving position.

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I mean talk about cool, he's got his foot up on the dashboard,

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one hand on the steering wheel, no seat belt

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and he's blowing his horn as he does it.

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That's a bit worrying, but standards were different in those days.

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Now, why are you selling it?

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To be honest with you,

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we would like it to go to a home where it's appreciated.

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-I know a lot of people say this, but we really would.

-That's good.

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It would be nice if someone had it and looked after it

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more than what it's been in the past

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and maybe did a bit of restoration on it.

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It's always said, isn't it, we don't really own these things,

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we just take care of them for the next generation and I'm glad that you're handing it on.

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-That's right.

-Now, we need to think about what it might be worth.

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I am concerned, as I say, about the damage.

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I would give this the benefit of the doubt

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and say that it was made at the start of that period

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so, before the First World War which gives it a bit of extra cachet.

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-I reckon this will make between £60 and £100.

-Good grief!

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-You surprise me, you really do!

-Oh, that's good.

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What I'd really like to suggest is that we sell it without reserve.

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You'll have to be a bit philosophical but I'm confident that there'll be

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enough people there who like this sort of thing for it to do pretty well.

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-Are you happy with that?

-Yes, that would be wonderful!

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Rose, this plaque is exquisite, it's beautiful!

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-Is it?

-Stunning, it really is!

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I wish I had the talent to paint something like that!

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-Yes.

-It's definitely a religious scene.

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-Yes.

-Tell me a little bit about its history.

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I inherited it approximately 30 years ago from an elderly lady

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and she was a housekeeper, must have been in quite a nice house,

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and she was given, obviously, certain items from the house

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and I think this has got to be one of them because she wouldn't have had this herself.

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What have you done with it? Have you had this on the wall?

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I've had it on the wall. I took it off this morning!

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So there's a little dust mark, a little square one!

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I saw that "Flog It!" was coming and I said to a friend of mine

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I think I'd love to go, so she said "what would you take?" I said "I'll take the miniature".

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Well, I'm pleased you brought this in.

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I'm going to take a closer look, actually, just turn it around.

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If you look...

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right in the crack, there, where the frame meets the image, you can see there's a slight curve on it.

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Now you can tell instantly that's a porcelain plaque, yeah?

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It's not painted on board, or card, or anything like that, or a piece of tin.

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That's quite a thick plaque.

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The beautiful thing about painting on porcelain plaques

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is the fact that it's not like a canvas or a paper, there's no grain,

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so the brush stroke almost vanishes, so you can see hardly any brushstroke. Can you see that?

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-I can, yes.

-It's just so fine, and look at the folds in the linen.

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Do you see the shadows around the headscarf where it's coming around?

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That's just incredible, isn't it?

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If you can see, very closely, look, right in the middle, there, an "O"

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and that's an Otto, so he's Otto... Wustlich or something like that!

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God, my bad pronunciation of German, and it's dated 1843.

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Gosh, that's minute, isn't it!

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You think how can he paint his name so small but of course he can,

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because he's painted those lips so beautifully and the eyes and the little eyebrows.

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Even the darkness under the eyes,

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you know, it's very... The eyes have got tremendous expression, haven't they?

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Now I've looked on the internet and I've looked up to see what's sold before.

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Now he did have a larger plaque that came up for auction in America with

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-3,000 to 4,000 estimate on it, but it failed to sell.

-Oh!

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So it doesn't give us a price guide really, because this is a small one

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and it's got a religious connection which slightly devalues it...

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Because it's not everybody's... No.

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It puts a lot of the market off so there's less competition.

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I still think it's worth...

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..£400 to £500, I really do,

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but I would like to ask you if we could put it into auction...

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Yes, by all means.

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..with a valuation of £200 to £400.

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I don't want to start the bidding at 400...

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I want it to do more than 400, but I need it to start a bit lower

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so people feel they're in a chance of buying this.

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I look forward to the sale.

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-Rita, my love, how are you?

-I'm all right, thank you.

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-That don't sound Devonian! Where are you from?

-Bradford in West Yorkshire.

-Bradford?

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-Yes.

-Are you a Yorkshire lass?

-Yes, I am.

-Not any more though?

-No.

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-When did you move down?

-12 months ago.

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What have you brought along today?

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Well, I don't really know. I think it's a snuff box but I'm not sure.

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It's been handed down through my husband's family and it's just something in the display cabinet

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and I've no idea exactly what it is or what it's made of.

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-And you want to sell it?

-Well, yes, if it's worth anything.

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-I've seen lots of these.

-Have you?

-And I love it to bits because I just... I like my bits of wood

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and you see a lot of these that are just sort of in a plain timber.

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-Yes.

-And they're worth like a fiver, not much more than that,

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sometimes a little bit more but not much but, as you rightly say, it's a snuff box.

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-It would date from the 19th century.

-Does it?

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-We've got a bit of Mother of Pearl inlay...

-Is it Mother of Pearl?

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-..in an ebony oval there, but what I love, look at that back.

-Yes.

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-Can you see the colour of that timber there?

-Yes, yes.

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Now that's just what we call "patina"

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-and all this happened through people going like that...

-Just with the use?

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And it's the grease off your hands, and it's clung and it's gone into it

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and you put it in your pocket and against the cloth of your pocket, it's polished it.

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I just love it to bits!

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And so many people get an old bit of wood,

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-or silver for that matter, and they over-clean it.

-Yes.

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You take that layer of colour off.

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-This is called Treen, so it's a small wooden item.

-Oh, yes.

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And they're cut out of the roots of trees and of hedges.

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It might be that this has been cut or carved out of that.

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I think it's really sweet. It's not worth a fortune. Why are you selling it?

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I don't know whether anybody's really interested in using them today or not

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but I just wondered whether it was doing any good in...

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just stood in a cupboard.

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-Its auction estimate is going be £20 to £40.

-Yes.

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And, you know, if you went to a really ritzy dealer

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and saw something like that, you could possibly pay anywhere

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between £50 and £100 for it, but I just think it's absolutely lovely!

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Hello, Heather. It's a real thrill for me to be able to discuss a piece of furniture because on "Flog It!"

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we don't see a lot of furniture, as you might expect, really.

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-Is this a family piece?

-It was a family piece, yes, but I'm the end of the family chain.

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-Right. Who did it belong to first?

-It would have been my grandmother and when she died,

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my mother inherited it when I was very young so it's always been in my life, since I was a young child.

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-And why are you selling it?

-Because I don't like it! I don't like brown wood furniture!

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Just want to be shot of it?

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-Yeah!

-Whereabouts is it stood in the house?

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-In the spare room.

-OK!

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I've got a modern bungalow and it just doesn't suit it.

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-So it's not on view?

-No!

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What's interesting, you mentioned the timber

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and, in fact, we have a light timber here so it needn't be dark.

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It's been stained to simulate rosewood. It's actually beech wood

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and this would have been made in the middle of the Victorian period,

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-probably as early as 1850, perhaps a little bit later than that.

-Right.

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It's designed in the Jacobethan style, which is a name the Victorians gave

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to a style which merged the Elizabethan and Jacobean styles.

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I think that it's a child's chair, but it could be a nursing chair.

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One thing I would just say, which always interests me,

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is, in my experience, Victorian chairs like this, the barley-twist legs always oppose each other,

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so this one spirals this way and that one spirals that way.

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On a period piece of furniture, you find that each leg would spiral the same way,

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-so, if nothing else, that tells us this is Victorian.

-Right.

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It's not going to make the earth, but I would expect it to make between £30 and £50, perhaps, on a good day

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with the following wind, a bit more and if you're happy, I would suggest that we sold it without reserve.

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-Yes, I'd be happy to sell it.

-Good. Let's go ahead on that basis, then.

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Lovely, thank you.

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And now it's time for our first visit to the auction.

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Here's a quick reminder of what we're taking along.

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David was relieved to discover Alan's inherited "Tut-Tut" car was in fact a small German tin one!

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When you said you'd brought a vintage car in,

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I thought we were going to have to go out to the car park to look at it!

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I thought Rose's porcelain plaque was exquisite and hopefully

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the religious subject matter won't put the bidders off.

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Rita's snuff box came from her husband's family, and Philip

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was wowed by it, but Rita isn't so sure that it'll sell!

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I don't know whether anybody is really interested in using them today or not.

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And finally, we're selling Heather's Victorian chair

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which came from her grandmother and is a real bit of quality.

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There you are, they're the items we're hoping to sell and this is where we're doing it...

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Eldred's Auctioneers and Valuers

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which is just along the coast from Torquay, in Plymouth.

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Before the sale gets underway, there's just enough time for me

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to have a quick chat with today's auctioneer, Anthony Eldred,

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to see what he's got to say about one of our lots.

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This guy's a bit of fun, isn't he? Look at that, blowing his horn!

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It's a German 1930s tin-plate car. It belongs to Alan.

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Obviously it's been used a lot but d'you know something,

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I like that kind of weathered condition about it.

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There's something sort of tactile. It gives it a bit of personality.

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We've got £60 to £100 with no reserve, so it's here to go.

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Well, I think it will definitely go at that estimate.

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Ernst Leamann produced several of these little car models.

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They're always portrayed as sort of large capitalist figures.

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-He was not a great fan of the motor car, so he liked to have some fun with this subject.

-Yeah.

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But I think the condition actually is a little bit against it.

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Collectors, as you know, like to see...

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-They're fussy.

-..tip-top, but at that estimate, I think it'll make more.

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-The character is so wonderful! He's just brilliant!

-Absolutely!

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He puts a smile on your face and I think with antiques like that,

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if you're prepared to spend £100 and smile every time you see it, it's money well-spent.

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Yeah, I think if that only cost me £100 I would have a smile on my face!

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So what do you think it might go for?

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I think it could double that.

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Keep watching to find out how Alan's Tut-Tut car fares, but first my valuation is being put to the test.

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Rose, I think this little plaque's wonderfully decorated, beautifully painted.

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-It's quality.

-Good. It's very pretty.

-It is!

-Yes.

-It is.

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We can't really talk any more, we can't speculate.

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It's now down to this lot in the room, isn't it, and hopefully, fingers crossed...

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-Somebody wants it.

-Yeah, there's a phone line booked for it.

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That's what I'm hoping.

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Next is the 19th century German porcelain plaque

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It is signed and it is dated, 1840-ish, and at £180 starts that.

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At 180, 190, 200, and ten, 220, 230,

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240, 250, 60, 270, 280, 290. 300.

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310, 320, 330, 340, 350...

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-I can't believe it!

-370.

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At 370, then, at the very back. At £370.

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-That's...

-Ever so pleased with that... £370!

-That's good!

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Quality always sells,

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simple as that,

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-and that was perfect, absolutely perfect!

-I'm really pleased!

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Going under the hammer right now is Heather's chair.

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We've got a value of £30 to £50 put on by our expert, David.

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Why do you want to sell it, Heather? because it's been in the family for three generations.

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-Are you having second thoughts?

-No.

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No? Why not?

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Well, I just don't like dark wood, it doesn't go with anything, it's too small.

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But that's the beauty of it... the corner of a room, in a bathroom,

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you can throw some towels or some clothes over it. What do you think?

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Well, I persuaded Heather to sell it in the first place!

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I thought you might have done, there's no reserve as well!

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Fingers crossed, here we go.

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Lot 57 is the little Victorian simulated rosewood child's chair,

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there it is in front. A host of bids for this. I'm bid...

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-£48 against you.

-Gone, straight away!

-50, two, five, eight, 60, two, five.

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-At £65 then.

-I was expecting five or ten!

-At £65.

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-68...

-A bit of competition!

-70, £70 stood by the door there at £70, then.

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All done at 70?

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Well, done, David!

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-That was brilliant!

-Happy with that?

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Yes, I am. I never expected that!

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Well, chairs are useful! At the end of the day, people do need a chair.

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What are you going to spend the money on?

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I dunno, because I'm taken back that I got so much!

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It really has surprised me!

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Well, it's been in the family a long time.

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-It has!

-Stuck in a cupboard, and now Rita's flogging it...

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-it's the snuff box.

-Yes, it is.

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It's a pinch at 20 to 40, Philip

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-It is, isn't it?

-It's lovely! Yeah, it's a tactile thing.

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-I was going to say very tactile, lovely colour, you know. Its colour is its passport.

-Yeah.

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I know it's old and it's a nice thing but I didn't really realise

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it was what you made it out to be.

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It's lovely, it's lovely.

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Let's just hope it sort of does double the estimate because it could do that on a good day.

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-On a good day.

-Fingers crossed, we're going to find out.

-Right.

-Here we go.

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Next is the fruitwood snuff box.

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There it is, a little snuff box and I'm bid a tenner for it,

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at £10, against you all at ten, 12, 15, 18.

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At £18 here. Take 20 now.

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At £18 in front. Are you all done at £18?

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Quite sure, then?

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£18 bid, it's gone.

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It's broken its reserve, so.

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You were right, Philip.

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It hasn't done what it should do, really.

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No, no. There's a lot of history there, a lot of personality.

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Yeah, a huge amount of social history, lovely colour, great little thing, £18?

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Well, it's gone, my darling!

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At least it's been a great "Flog It!" experience, that's what it's all about, isn't it?

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And I've really enjoyed it.

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-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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One of my favourite lots of the day, the German tinplate car belonging to Alan here,

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we've got a valuation of £60 to £100 put on by David, our expert.

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Had a quick chat to the auctioneer.

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We both thought this could absolutely fly!

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There's just something about it it's quirky, it puts a smile on your face

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and I'm rather hoping for a couple of hundred pounds.

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-Are you really?

-Yeah, on a good day.

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You can never tell in an auction room, can you?

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No, no, never tell.

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It's the first time I've ever been to an auction in my life!

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-Is it really?

-Yeah. The closest I've been is...

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I do charity rock'n'roll discos and we auction teddy bears for a children's hospice or whatever.

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Right, so you do a bit of auctioneering?

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Well, only at charity discos, that's all, so this is completely new.

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-It's an exciting arena, isn't it?

-That's right.

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Everything's vying for your attention, people get carried away,

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they can bid too much money, they can pay over the top for something.

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-Let's just hope they do this today, that's all I can say!

-Absolutely!

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Here we go, this is it.

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Next is the Leamann tinplate model. There it is, "Tut-Tut" it's called.

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I'm bid...

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£200 for it. Against you all at 200.

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-You're joking!

-Straight in, 200!

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And if you want it, ten, 220, 230, 240, 250, 260, 270, 280, 290, 300,

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-and ten, 320...

-You're joking!

-330 now.

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-Racing away!

-At £330.

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-At 330 at the back.

-No!

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Are you all finished then at £330?

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Sell at 330.

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-God, do you know, I'm flabbergasted!

-That was good, wasn't it!

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Some of that money is going to the children's hospice.

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Oh! For which one?

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-The Children's Hospice South West.

-South West?

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Yeah, definitely. Wonderful, wonderful

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and thanks to the "Flog It!" team, and David got it right!

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-He did, didn't he!

-Well, I did undervalue it by a long way!

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Yeah, but you knew it would sell, that's all that mattered, David, well done!

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That's the end of our first visit to the auction room today.

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Plenty of excitement there.

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We are coming back later on in the show and hopefully we'll have a few more surprises.

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Philip comes face to face with a mystery nameplate that's got him flummoxed!

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When I first saw that, I thought "Burmese", that would hang over tea or something like that, yeah.

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-Am I right, close?

-Miles away!

-Miles away!

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Do you, at home, have any idea what it might be used for?

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Keep watching to find out!

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Here on the South Devon coast, just along the shoreline from Torquay,

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is the Babbacombe Cliff Railway which was built in 1926.

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The need for this funicular railway grew out of Torquay's booming tourist industry

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as visitors flocked to enjoy the town's beaches and holiday attractions.

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This railway starts at the top of the cliff here and goes all the way down the bottom to Oddicombe Beach,

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and Oddicombe is one of the most popular beaches in Torquay.

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There are only 27 cliff railways in the United Kingdom.

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The one here at Babbacombe is one of only two in Devon.

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The other is at Linton, on the North Coast.

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Now the Babbacombe Cliff Railway has recently broken new ground because it's the first cliff railway

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to be fully modernised in the last decade, making way for others to follow in its wake.

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I'm here to meet a chap who's a massive fan of funicular railways and he's responsible

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for modernising this one and his name's David Cooper.

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Hi, pleased to meet you, and thanks for talking to me today.

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How did you get involved with the Babbacombe Railway?

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I got a phone call in 2003 to say there'd been an incident down here

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and they needed a chartered engineer to inspect it,

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and then I've been involved ever since.

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This particular cliff railway is called a funicular railway.

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They're not all called that, and what does it mean?

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-Well "funicular" in two terms is actually a Latin word and it means "of rope".

-Right.

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And so even an ordinary traditional lift is a funicular.

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Many people think it's because they're inclined, but that's not the case.

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There's various different types. Over at Padstow there's a rack and pinion one,

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the one you've already mentioned at Linton is a water-balance one,

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no electricity involved in that one at all, and some are drum-drive,

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so just like a crane and the ropes go round the drum.

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Well, let's get down to the nitty-gritty.

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Can you explain to the layman, like me, exactly how this one works?

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Yes. This is an electrical traction one, so we've got a motor downstairs

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so we need to go down into the depths below the station and I will show you how it all works.

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-Brilliant! Follow you.

-Thank you.

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Although the principle design hasn't changed since the 1920s

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the motor has been replaced to make it safer and more energy-efficient.

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I'm quite surprised, because it's a small engine. Is this it?

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This is it.

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Most of the stuff goes on outside on the track in terms of signalling.

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So talk me through how the separate components work.

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OK. This is the motor and it takes signals from the track,

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from the position switches and the encoder on the end of the motor here

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and that controls the speed of the lift.

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It accelerates it to make its speed and then it decelerates it into the station.

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This here is the brake and the brake holds the lift when it's in the station.

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The motor drives it to a stop and the brake holds it, just like a parking brake, or handbrake on your car.

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Yeah.

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Down here we have the gearbox and what that does is that takes this high-speed shaft which is rotating

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at 1100 revs per minute and gears it down.

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It literally is just a gear box and that in turn turns the traction tube over there.

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I can see that... Which drives that wheel as well.

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Indeed, through a double-wrap arrangement, then go up to the diverters and then out to the track.

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-Yeah.

-To the end of the cars.

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Very simple. Very, very simple.

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I was expecting so much more!

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Well, if you think about it as well, with an ordinary passenger lift,

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the whole of the weight is taken by the gear box and the motor

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whereas out here, cos we're on an angle,

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a lot of the weight is taken downwards into the ground

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so, therefore, it's not as big as you might have been expecting.

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But it wasn't just the motor that was modernised.

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From 2005, David and his team also replaced the carriages and the track.

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So you actually oversaw all the restoration project.

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-How long did it take?

-It took us two years, over two seasons.

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We took it out for the first season, then put it back in

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and then completed the works during the closed season.

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I see, so you kept it open all the time over the two years?

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During the summer, during the season when Torbay required it to be open.

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And what was the reception like? Was it a really nice opening party?

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Yeah. On...

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It was the 1st of April 2006, we all met here

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and we replicated the opening from the 1st of April 1926,

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so it was 80 years and in fact one of the ladies who rode on the lift car on that first date was here!

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Oh, brilliant! How lovely! Well, I can't wait to have another go.

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-Shall we get inside?

-Yep, let's go and have a play.

0:26:050:26:07

So how many people can fit in the carriage?

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This is a forty-berth carriage.

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-Actually, it's quite a smooth ride, really, isn't it? How fast does it go?

-Two and a half metres a second.

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And what sort of angle are we going down at?

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The incline is actually 22 degrees on this one.

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It looks steeper when you look in reverse, actually!

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-A trick of the eye!

-Yeah.

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What a fantastic view!

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-This has got to be a great way of coming down the cliff!

-Absolutely!

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There's obviously another operative, in here, yeah?

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Yes, we have two down here, we have a person operating the doors and a person taking your money!

0:26:450:26:50

-Oh, right! We pay at this end?

-You do!

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Lovely sea air!

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Gorgeous, gorgeous beach!

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I can see why it's important to keep this open.

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It's an absolutely stunning beach and it does get quite full.

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They sometimes see 100,000 people a year down here, but in its heyday -

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obviously the British holiday seasons back in the '50s and '60s -

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-it was regularly seeing a quarter of a million people down here.

-Yeah.

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When you're up at the top, you know the flags are sort of blowing in a breeze up there and you think,

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-ooh it's going to be quite gusty down here, but it's not at all, is it?

-No, far from it.

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Because it's so enclosed with all this sandstone, it has its own little micro-climate down there.

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Do you have to alert people on the beach because... When do they know it's the last car?

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What actually happens down here is we have a bell.

0:27:400:27:42

-I saw that. A ship's bell?

-It's an old ship's bell from a ship called Talca.

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Well, it's now quarter to five.

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-In that case, you may as well ring the bell.

-Shall we?

-Absolutely!

-Let's alert them.

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This is like last orders, isn't it?

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-Give it a good old go.

-Give it a good old go.

0:27:560:27:59

BELL RINGS

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No time to build a sandcastle, I need to get back to the valuation day.

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Back at the Palace Hotel, people are still pouring in

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and it's now time for Philip to find out what that nameplate is.

0:28:190:28:23

-John, how are you?

-I'm very good.

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I'm a bit flummoxed here. Let me see if I can work things out.

0:28:250:28:28

So, "Burmese".

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Oh, there's a name on the back as well.

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"Roland", yeah?

0:28:330:28:36

See when I first saw that, I thought "Burmese"

0:28:360:28:38

that would hang over tea or something, or something like that, yeah, am I right, close?

0:28:380:28:42

-Miles away!

-Miles away?

0:28:420:28:45

-But it is a name plaque?

-Yes.

0:28:450:28:47

-Go on then, tell me!

-Well, Roland was a state carriage horse.

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-I was a postillion.

-Can you just...

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I'm showing my ignorance here, what is a "postillion"?

0:28:530:28:57

-I looked after two state carriage horses.

-Really!

-And rode them during state processions.

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-And Roland was the lead horse?

-Roland was one of the carriage horses.

0:29:010:29:05

-Yeah.

-And Burmese was the horse that the queen rode on the Trooping of the Colour.

-Really!

0:29:050:29:11

-Yeah!

-So a postillion was somebody who looked after the horses?

-Yep.

0:29:110:29:14

-And your job was to prepare Roland, harness him up, tack him up and hitch him up to the carriage?

-Yes.

0:29:140:29:20

And then you sat on the carriage?

0:29:200:29:21

Er no. You sat either on the horse...

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You rode one horse and led another one.

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-So you were in the black tunic and the cap and all the rest of it?

-Yes.

0:29:250:29:28

That's fabulous! So that's Roland?

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Roland was one of the carriage horses.

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Right, so we've got Burmese here. Why is this double-sided?

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Well, Burmese was the horse that the queen rode on the Trooping

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and she was a gift from the Canadian Mounties.

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So Burmese was almost like a family pet, I suppose?

0:29:410:29:44

No, she was a Metropolitan police horse, day to day.

0:29:440:29:47

-Really?

-Yeah, and when she was stabled at the mews,

0:29:470:29:52

-they took Roland's nameplate...

-And double-sided it?

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And painted Burmese's name on the other side of it and hung it above Burmese's stable door.

0:29:540:29:59

That's fantastic! You've brought these to "Flog It" to sell them?

0:29:590:30:04

-Well... yeah!

-How are they yours?

0:30:040:30:05

Well, when Burmese retired in '86,

0:30:050:30:08

I asked if I could keep the nameplate.

0:30:080:30:10

-So you're happy you've got title to this and you can sell it?

-I should think so.

0:30:100:30:13

I'm not going to be locked in the Tower of London?

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I asked my senior coachman if I could keep it, and he said yes.

0:30:150:30:18

And I can see you've got another box over here with Buckingham Palace on it.

0:30:180:30:23

Well, this is a piece of...

0:30:230:30:26

Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson's wedding cake.

0:30:260:30:28

-Really!

-Yep. Because my horses and I were on the procession, all the staff got a piece of wedding cake.

0:30:280:30:35

-That must have been a big old cake!

-I think it was, yes! I think it was a huge cake!

0:30:350:30:39

Well, you've given me a problem now, and the problem is value.

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If this came in to me cold, Burmese the name plaque, I'd guess, and all it is is a guess,

0:30:430:30:49

that it might be worth between £400 and £600, right, but it wouldn't surprise me

0:30:490:30:54

if it made £2,000, £3,000, £4,000 and I think that the issue with this is that

0:30:540:31:00

when it goes to auction, you've actually, when we finish filming this now, I think you've got to go and see

0:31:000:31:05

one of our researchers and you've got to write down all the provenance

0:31:050:31:09

and all that's got to be put in the catalogue,

0:31:090:31:13

-so perhaps if we put a £500 to £800 estimate on it, right, and a £450 reserve?

-Right.

0:31:130:31:17

And, you know, I think it might not sell, but where you go with value, I really, really don't know

0:31:170:31:24

-and the wedding cake, I think we'll put a £40 to £60 estimate on that and put a reserve of £30.

-Right.

0:31:240:31:31

One question I've got to ask you, though.

0:31:310:31:34

Why didn't you eat it?

0:31:340:31:36

Well, I've always been a bit of a collector, so I feel it probably is worth holding onto.

0:31:360:31:41

-But did everybody else eat theirs?

-A lot of people ate theirs, yeah.

-Was it good cake?

0:31:410:31:46

-I have seen bits of Charles and Di's go on the auction site.

-Really? What did they make?

0:31:460:31:52

-The last one I knew of Charles and Di's wedding cake, made £500.

-500?

0:31:520:31:56

-Yeah.

-Listen, I think these are just really lovely things that you've brought us,

0:31:560:32:01

so let's just hope that when we get to the auction that there's some real

0:32:010:32:04

avid Royal memorabilia collectors there and fingers crossed, some hungry ones as well!

0:32:040:32:09

-Hello, Maureen.

-Hello.

0:32:160:32:17

Tell me a little bit about this lovely knife that you've brought in for me.

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I just know that it's a gold fruit knife which I inherited from my grandfather.

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It's dated 1803.

0:32:270:32:30

We know that because of the hallmarks.

0:32:300:32:33

It's also hallmarked "18"

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which means it's 18 carat gold, so as you suggest, it is gold.

0:32:350:32:39

What we don't know is who made it, but interestingly enough, we do have the initials I and A

0:32:390:32:46

after the hallmarks, but I'm not able, offhand, to tell you to what those letters relate.

0:32:460:32:53

They might be an owner, they might be a retailer.

0:32:530:32:57

That's something that would perhaps need a bit of research but the quality is lovely.

0:32:570:33:01

There is one minor problem, if we turn it over, and that relates to a crack here.

0:33:010:33:06

How do you think that might have happened?

0:33:060:33:09

-Well, my grandfather was in the First World War with the King's Royal Rifles.

-Right.

0:33:090:33:14

He came home seriously injured and lost an eye.

0:33:140:33:18

I imagine it got damaged during his war-time years.

0:33:180:33:21

-So you think he took this off to war?

-I know he did take it with him.

0:33:210:33:24

-My grandmother said that he took it with him.

-How interesting.

0:33:240:33:28

-A most incongruous item to have in the trenches, really.

-I know!

0:33:280:33:31

You think of all the mud and all the terrible experiences those chaps had.

0:33:310:33:35

Maybe it had something...

0:33:350:33:37

-Good luck, perhaps?

-Good luck for him, I really don't know.

0:33:370:33:41

I think it's absolutely super.

0:33:410:33:43

What I particularly like about it is if you fold the blade back into the handle, the hallmarks stand proud,

0:33:430:33:51

so even when it's closed, you can see not only that it's gold but you can see

0:33:510:33:56

how good the hallmarks are and the hallmarks are super.

0:33:560:34:00

Any particular reason for wanting to sell it?

0:34:000:34:02

It just sits in the cupboard and I suppose extra pennies/pounds are very useful when you're retired!

0:34:020:34:09

It's a good an answer as any!

0:34:090:34:12

I think this will make between £200 and £300.

0:34:120:34:16

I would suggest a reserve of £200.

0:34:160:34:19

It's such a lovely thing and I'm optimistic it will do very well.

0:34:190:34:23

-Are you happy with that?

-Yes, that's fine.

-Jolly good. Thank you for bringing it in.

0:34:230:34:27

-Cathy, how are you doing?

-I'm fine, thank you. A bit worn out!

0:34:320:34:36

-You've made my day!

-It's been a long day!

-You've made mine!

0:34:360:34:39

-Have I really?

-Yeah, because I'm a real petrol-head.

-Yes.

0:34:390:34:42

And you know you've brought something along which is not hugely valuable

0:34:420:34:46

-but it's clearly, in my eyes, possibly the greatest racing driver of all time.

-Definitely!

0:34:460:34:53

You hear people talking about Lewis Hamilton and Schumacher, Ayrton Senna

0:34:530:34:59

Jimmy Clarke but for me, this man Fangio.

0:34:590:35:03

Yeah, definitely!

0:35:030:35:05

And this is a picture of Fangio...

0:35:050:35:07

-Yes.

-I would think in a Mercedes?

0:35:070:35:09

-Possibly. I'm not well-up on the cars, but possibly.

-And...

0:35:090:35:13

-You tell me what you know about it.

-My late husband and I worked for the Birmingham Mail.

-Yep.

0:35:130:35:18

He was part of the organising committee for doing the cavalcade through Birmingham.

0:35:180:35:23

This was when they were trying to get the Grand Prix round there.

0:35:230:35:26

Yes, through the city streets and because we worked at the Mail we got photographed

0:35:260:35:30

-and he managed to get Fangio to come and sign it for him.

-Was this done for motorsport?

0:35:300:35:35

Yes, for the motorsport part of the newspaper section, yes.

0:35:350:35:38

Right. It's interesting this because, and you're getting into real anorak country here,

0:35:380:35:43

-Fangio was the superstar, one of the late 1950s with Peter Collins and Mike Halewood.

-Yes.

0:35:430:35:50

-And this is taken out of period.

-Yes.

-So it's Fangio, in his helmet, but it's probably...

0:35:500:35:56

-When was the Birmingham Grand Prix, is it 1980 something?

-1981, I think it was, yes.

0:35:560:36:00

-1981, so this was probably taken 21 or 22 years after Fangio raced.

-That's right, yes.

0:36:000:36:06

And in a way, that devalues it. Now I've seen...

0:36:060:36:09

photographs of Fangio that are signed

0:36:090:36:13

-from in period at around £300.

-Aha.

0:36:130:36:18

Now, I think that this will get picked up on the internet

0:36:180:36:22

and I think we've got to put a sensible but cautious estimate on it

0:36:220:36:27

and I'd probably put £50 to £80 on it, and put a reserve on it of £40. Are you happy to sell it?

0:36:270:36:32

Yes, definitely.

0:36:320:36:34

-I reckon it will race away!

-Hope so!

0:36:340:36:37

Sorry about that!

0:36:370:36:39

Oh, dear, Philip, but will he be right about

0:36:390:36:42

Cathy's photo of racing star Fangio at our next trip to the auction?

0:36:420:36:47

It's proved hard to put a price on the value of John's royal horse's nameplate

0:36:480:36:52

and that piece of Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson's wedding cake.

0:36:520:36:56

Let's just hope when we get to the auction there's some real avid royal memorabilia collectors there

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and fingers crossed, some hungry ones as well!

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Maureen's 18 carat gold fruit knife may have seen some action in the

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trenches, but right now it's gonna see some action in the auction room.

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Maureen, it's good to see you again.

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Gorgeous fruit knife. We've got £200 to £300 on this.

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I'm pretty sure this is gonna sell.

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It's a good time to sell gold, it's up in value now.

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Why is it a good time for you to sell this?

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Why have you thought about selling this?

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-It was because the programme was coming to Torquay!

-Oh, was it?

-I always watch the programme.

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What could we take along to "Flog It"! Let's hope we get top money for this.

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Here we go, we're gonna find out now.

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Next is a folding pen-knife or fruit knife.

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It's a gold one, which is unusual and several bids. I'm bid £210, against you all in the room at 210.

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Straight in, aren't we!

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-Yes.

-220, 230, 240. At £240.

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250, 260, 270.

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At 270 standing at the back there.

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At £270. 280 now.

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290.

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300.

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At £300 on the telephone, against you all in the room at £300.

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Sell it at 300, then.

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We'll settle for that, Maureen, at the top end of the estimate.

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-Well, done, David!

-Thank you, David.

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Thank you very much.

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A very nice thing, very nice. How are you gonna divide the money up?

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-We're treating ourselves!

-I don't blame you!

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-We're going to a classical concert at the Royal Albert Hall...

-Oh, brilliant!

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-And have a weekend in London.

-Brilliant!

-So that will go towards it.

-Enjoy it, won't you!

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Well, that's more like it! We're racing away now which brings us cleverly to our next lot.

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I've just been joined by Cathy and Philip and the photograph of Fangio,

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probably the greatest Grand Prix driver ever!

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You had the right expert picking this one, that's for sure!

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Mr car fanatic! He's a petrol-head!

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Yeah! You think about him racing this car, no seatbelt, head up

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-above the bonnet, you know, you flip that at 150 miles an hour and you'll have no hope!

-Definitely, definitely!

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And hopefully he'll get top dollar as well.

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I know it's signed when he's not racing, it's sort of 25 years afterwards, but as Philip said

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earlier, you know, if it was of the period, £300 to £400.

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-This will be quite interesting, actually.

-Yes.

-We'll see.

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Next is a signed black and white photograph of Fangio

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in the cockpit of his car and £35 starts that, at 35. Eight anywhere?

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At £35 then, eight if you want it.

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At £35. Are you all done, then at 35?

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Quite sure at 35?

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That can't quite be sold.

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-He put the hammer down.

-That's really disappointing.

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Yeah, yeah, we got a fixed reserve at 40.

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-Yes.

-So close.

-I'm actually really pleased it didn't sell for that.

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It's disappointing but it's worth more than that.

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-Not meant to be!

-No, not today, unfortunately and there is another day at the sale room!

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-Thanks so much for coming in.

-Thank you very much.

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Oh, dear! Cathy will be taking her photo of Fangio home.

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Let's hope Philip has better luck with his estimates on the royal memorabilia.

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Well, it's all hanging on a nameplate now, and that belongs

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to John, and what a wonderful horse as well, it really was! Have you got lots of fond memories?

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Yes, yes. I was there just at the right time, I think.

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I hope for you that it goes and makes £1,000 or £1,500

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or doesn't sell, but I have to say, in terms of value it's...

0:40:360:40:39

One of those jobs because I really don't know!

0:40:390:40:42

Well, look, that's our first lot. Now we've also got...

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the piece of cake!

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Anthony has decided to split them up and I don't really blame him so that's coming up a little bit later,

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but first, let's find out what the bidders think. Here we go.

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On next is the painted metal nameplate for the Queen's horse, Burmese.

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I'm bid £400 for it, against you all in the room at £400.

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At 400, 20 if you want it.

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At £400 then. Anything in the room at 400?

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At £400 then, and 20, 440, 460, 480...

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Fantastic!

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Now at £500. And 20, 540.

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560, 580.

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600, and 20.

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At £620 here, then, at £620...

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-Fantastic!

-Isn't that good!

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-Yeah!

-All done!

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It went to a bidder on the phone!

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-£620!

-Well, I knew it would make that!

0:41:320:41:34

That's brilliant, isn't it!

0:41:340:41:36

Isn't it great when that happens? You've got to be pleased with that.

0:41:360:41:40

-Yeah.

-It made estimate, but we'll all settle for that.

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What are you putting the money towards?

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I'm gonna donate some of it to the RSPCA, the Queen's the patron of the RSPCA.

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OK. Well, let's see if we can add to that, because we've got the piece of cake coming up right now.

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That was a piece of cake, wasn't it? Here we go.

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Next is a chance to own a box slice of Prince Andrew's and Sarah Ferguson's wedding cake.

0:41:570:42:03

This should be interesting. We've never sold a piece of cake before!

0:42:030:42:07

And £20, £25 for that at 25, eight, 30. At £30 now, take two if you like.

0:42:070:42:12

32, 35, 38. At £38,

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in front of me at £38, take 40.

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All done at £38 then. Quite sure?

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It's gone!

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-£38!

-That was short and sweet!

-I've just learnt something!

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I would never have known what a piece

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of Andrew and Fergie's wedding cake would be worth but there you go!

0:42:300:42:33

-Now we all know! 38 quid! Unbelievable!

-I hope they don't try it!

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Unbelievable! You've hung onto that for a long time!

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-Never tempted to eat it?

-No, no!

0:42:390:42:41

-I hope they're not!

-I have visions of every "Flog It"

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valuation now people are arriving with pieces of cake saying, "What's this worth?"

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It's Victoria sponge!

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Well, who would have believed it!

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A total of £658 for the royal memorabilia!

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It just goes to show, you can't always tell what things are worth!

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Well, that's it, it's all over. One minute the auction room is

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jam-packed and the next, as you can see, there's a mass exodus and everybody's gone,

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but what excitement we've had today and I've gotta say, I've loved being back in the West Country.

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I hope you've enjoyed the show, so until the next time, from Plymouth, it's cheerio!

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