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Today we are surrounded by our furry and feathered friends.

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And noisy ones, just look at these flamingos. Welcome to Flog It!

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from Whipsnade Zoo near Dunstable.

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Whipsnade has around 70 different species of birds and these scarlet macaws here, well, they're possibly

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the loudest and the most intelligent of the exhibits. If you want to see

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more beautiful feathered creatures, this is the place to visit.

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You could say the sky's the limit.

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BIRDS SQUAWK

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And from one flying machine to another, later on the programme,

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I'll be reaching for the skies as I visit RAF Halton in Buckinghamshire.

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Whey!

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But our main business today is on the ground.

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And keen to get their paws on all the bags

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and boxes today are our experts, the fabulous Thomas Plant and Michael Baggott.

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They will be looking at every item in the queue and whisking the best off to auction later on.

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Well, it's now 9:30, it's time to get this massive queue

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through the gates and on with the show.

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So, as the crowds rush in it appears Thomas has already clocked a great item.

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-Paul, thank you for coming along to Flog It!

-Pleasure.

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-This is a family piece?

-Yeah, passed down from my granddad.

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He had quite a large collection of carriage clocks.

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-But this is surplus to requirements.

-Yeah.

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This is an English carriage clock

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and it looks like, from the front of the dial, if we can see here,

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it's got Benson on it. Benson a good London maker.

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A good white enamel face there.

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There's a slight crack on the corners, which you do expect to see,

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-which does affect the value.

-Right.

-But what's appealing to it

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is the actual design of the case. It's a lovely shaped case.

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-Mmm.

-Normally they're very straight

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but these have got these sort of nice mouldings to the brass.

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And what I do like about it is that

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it hasn't been polished too much which is a good sign.

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-Or is that a bad thing?

-No, it's a good sign, it's a good sign.

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Now if I press this button... it does repeat.

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Look, you can see the hammer going backwards...

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And it's 19th century. Now that's a broad hundred years,

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-Later part of the 19th century so we're looking at the late Victorian period.

-Oh.

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Late 19, it could age towards the Edwardian period, but with the style

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of the piece, it's looking at Victorian.

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-They always have a very static value at auction...

-Yeah.

-..items like this, and, um...

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it's always in the low hundreds, so my estimation for this

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-is we're looking at £300 to £500.

-Really?

-Yes.

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-Now that surprised me. I thought it would be a lot less. And I'm quite gobsmacked by that.

-Really?

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-Yes.

-Well, I think if we say 300 to 500,

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-but if we say a reserve of £200, is that all right?

-Brilliant, yeah.

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-If it doesn't sell, there's another day, there's another auction.

-Right.

-I look forward to seeing you.

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Fantastic. Thank you very, very much.

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Valerie, thank you for bringing in what looks like a very promising box.

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-Let's hope so.

-I know what should be in here,

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from the shape of the case, but let's see.

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Oh, marvellous! And there we go.

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-Wonderful Victorian three-piece christening set.

-Right.

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Really almost the wrong version that you get.

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-Really?

-Often you will get a spoon and a fork, then you will get

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the spoon, fork and knife.

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And then maybe you'll get a napkin ring thrown in.

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But the very best ones, you get the christening mug as well.

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Look at the wonderful condition.

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-Never been out of that case, has it?

-No, it's lovely, isn't it?

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So where does it normally live?

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It used to be in my mother's house and obviously when she passed away,

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I laid claim to it because I liked it.

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Well, unusually it isn't - wonderfully, I might add -

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isn't inscribed with anybody's name so...

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-No.

-Do you know who it was presented to in the family?

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To be honest, I'm not certain but I think it was probably one of the grandparents.

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Look here, we've got RM over EH as the maker's mark,

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That's Martin Hall and Company.

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-Right.

-And they're a large Sheffield manufacturer.

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-But sometimes they had their work assayed in London.

-Oh, right.

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-And alongside it we've got London marks for 1875.

-Ah.

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And what's lovely is we've also got those same marks

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on the knife, fork and spoon so it all ties in together.

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-Mmm.

-Wonderful set and I'm sure it's a set

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that two collectors would fight over. Any idea of the value?

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-Oh, 100-ish.

-100-ish?

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Where's my wallet when I need it.

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-I think we can safely put a reserve of £150 on it.

-Oh, lovely.

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-And an estimate of £150 to £250.

-Yeah? Oh, that's good.

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And to be honest I'd be disappointed if we weren't reaching

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nearer the top end of that because we've got the original case.

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But let's close it back up

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and hope that somebody loves it as much as I do at the auction.

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-Thank you so much for bringing it in.

-You're very welcome.

-Thank you.

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-Dave.

-Yes, Tom.

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Look at these. Tell me, are you a pot-lid collector?

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I'm not. My father was a pot-lid collector

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And when did he collect them?

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About 20, 25 years ago.

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Now these are lids that you would have on the top of bases

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which would contain gentleman's relish,

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anchovy paste, toothpaste...

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-They are late Victorian, second half, and these are the lids.

-Yes.

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The bases are normally white and not interesting to people

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so we have just got a collection of Staffordshire Prattware pot lids.

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-How many have we got?

-73 in total.

-We've got a fraction

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-we're showing on the table.

-Yes.

-Something you're interested in?

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-I like them but I'd rather see a collector or someone else have them for their collection.

-Absolutely.

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-Laid out on the table, they look stunning.

-Does.

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And these are transfer printed.

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It's quite a difficult process to transfer the print on there and then to colour it.

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So the ones where the decoration, the transfer and the colours

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all match. And when you get a really crispy lid in condition

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and the transfer is great then the premium is seen

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in the price. They go for mega money.

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Are there any of them which you think are your favourites?

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-I like the first and second...

-These two, the one with the...?

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-The gentleman and the lady in front of a window.

-Yes.

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They are much clearer as you said, they do look clearer.

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-They look nice and crisp don't they?

-Yes.

-And it's quite a fun story.

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The first proposal rejected, so he goes out for a walk,

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you know, pretty gutted, he goes in for a second one.

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I don't know if she rejects it again but maybe

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they get married and there should be another lid for...

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-The divorce, perhaps!

-A divorce lid.

-Lovely!

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These lids, being a pair, actually do command quite a bit of money.

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They're probably worth £100 each.

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Another two which are nice are these ones here.

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"Our Pets", which is a collection of... which is children.

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Obviously, children in things do sell a lot better,

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-and these ones here are worth probably about £100 each.

-Yes.

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The more general pot lids are worth between £20 and £50 for a really crispy lid.

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So you say you've got 73 and I've actually seen all 73.

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And I believe that we should get between...

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£2,000, at the least, up to about £4,000.

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It's a really wide bracket between 2,000 and 4,000 and I think we'll fall in between that.

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-Are you happy with that?

-Yes.

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Well, fix the reserve at 2.

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-They are going to do better don't worry about that.

-OK.

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They should do a lot better. But let's give the auction house

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a chance to maybe split them up or keep them as a whole.

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-Best to sell them on the one day cos they'll all turn up.

-Right.

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-With the power of the internet, they'll be there. Happy with that?

-Yes, I am.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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Charles, this is a marvellous little seal

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that you've brought along today. Sadly something's happened to it today, hasn't it?

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I'm afraid so, it's melted in my pocket, I think.

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That's not a major disaster, the old glue's just given way.

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But is this a family piece, something you've had for...?

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No, I bought it, ah, 25 or slightly longer years ago.

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-Oh, right.

-I bought it from a second-hand jeweller's in St Albans

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and I had an extra band put on the top and had it made into a necklace

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-for my wife. That's the hand in hand.

-That's lovely.

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If we take a closer look here, I mean, none of this is hallmarked...

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-No.

-But from the colour of the gold,

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-we can tell that it's certainly 18 carats.

-Yes.

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And we've got this armoured hand here with the gauntlet coming down

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and we've got this more genteel, feminine hand

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with the beautiful embroidery there, clasping it.

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So it's of course a clasp of friendship and of loyalty.

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"From Queen Victoria," which is marvellous.

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The seal itself is a piece of bloodstone

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which has been mounted with this floral wrapped gold collar

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and on the base we've got the initials of the person

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you imagine to whom it was presented, beneath the coronet.

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Now, when you've got four balls on your coronet, that makes you a baron.

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-Oh, right.

-So he was Baron Somebody.

-Yes.

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Probably not Baron Hardup with a wonderful seal like that!

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The slight difficulty when it comes to royal presentation inscriptions

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is that I've seen quite a few pieces

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over the years and they tend always to have Queen Victoria's monogram

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on them as well, so you'll get VR either on its own or conjoined under the royal crown.

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The fact that isn't there puts a slight seed of doubt in my mind.

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-Had it been presented by Queen Victoria...

-Yes.

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-..you're between £2,000 and £4,000 for it.

-Mm-hm.

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Really today we've just got to look at it as just a very fine,

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early to mid-19th century, gold and bloodstone seal.

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-Right.

-Realistically at auction I think it's going to make between £400 and £600.

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I would love to be proved wrong and have two royal collectors taking it

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-over the 1,000 and 1,800...

-Yes.

-But I think that's realistic.

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-Right.

-If we put a fixed reserve of £400 on it

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-and hope that somebody in the auction...

-Really likes it.

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..is a seal collector with a tube of superglue to put it back together!

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-But it's a marvellous thing and thank you so much for bringing it it.

-Lovely. Nice to have met you.

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Well, we're now halfway through our day and we found some fabulous items and right now it's time

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to put those valuations to the test. So while we make our way over to the auction room, we'll leave you

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with a little reminder, just to jog your memory, of all the items going under the hammer.

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Paul is pleased with the valuation Thomas placed

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on his late grandfather's Victorian carriage clock.

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We're looking at £300 to £500.

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-Really? I'm quite gobsmacked by that.

-Really?

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Found in her mother's attic,

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Valerie doesn't think her silver christening set is worth a fortune.

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-Any idea of the value?

-100-ish?

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Where's my wallet when I need it most?!

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Will Charles receive the stamp of approval from the saleroom

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for his gold seal marked "from Queen Victoria"?

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It's melted in my pocket, I think!

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And will the lids prised off Dave's Staffordshire pots

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produce a prize pot of gold in the auction room?

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For today's auction we've travelled to Hertfordshire

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and we're the guests of Tring Market Auctions. On the rostrum

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is old "Flog It!" favourite Stephen Hearn

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and he wants to have a chat with me about those pot lids

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so let's catch up with him.

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I bet you enjoyed cataloguing this lot!

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Dave brought these in and his father collected them

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in the '70s and during the '80s.

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Thomas has put a value of £2,000 to £4,000 for all these pot lids

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and on the day he said he's going to let the auctioneer decide whether or not to cherry-pick

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some of the best ones to split into a different lot.

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Well, we would have liked to have done that

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and we did approach the owner of them

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and he decided we would have to leave them as a collection.

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Right. Has that limited your market?

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It's limited the market considerably

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because most people like to collect them themselves as individual pot lids.

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-Yeah, that's the fun, it's the journey.

-They want to build up

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their own collection, not buy someone else's.

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I think you've got your work cut out, I really do.

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Yes, but there might be that one person out there who wants them.

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That's what auctions are about. That's why we do them and that's why they are full of surprises.

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-We will try.

-Right now Stephen is going to get on the rostrum and show us a few.

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We'll try.

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You'll have to wait and see how we get on selling the pot lids

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but as time rapidly ticks away, first up is the Victorian carriage clock.

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It belongs to Paul here and we got a value of £300 to £500.

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Well, I hope we get that top end that Thomas put on.

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Chance would be a fine thing! No...

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Should I say, I'm hoping for that lotto win, then? 300.

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300 would be a really good, really good price. 500 is, it would be doing really, really well.

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And obviously with the money, are you going to buy another clock or..?

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-I'll take the children out, I think.

-Take the kids out.

-Yeah. About time.

-How many have you got?

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-Three.

-And what are their names?

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Rebecca, Abigail and Joshua.

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Lovely names, lovely names.

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Let's see what we can do for them. It's going under the hammer now.

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Carriage clock retailed by Benson's and a jolly good example, too.

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A bid at £200.

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£220 I'm bid for that and 50 now.

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At £250, £250 and 80's in.

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£280 it's got to be. £280, £280...

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£300, a bid at £300.

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£320, thank you.

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Brilliant. That has gone for £320 so you were both right.

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You both kind of agreed it would get the bottom end, didn't you?

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-I think that's about right for it.

-You know your stuff.

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He does, he knows his stuff. Want a job?

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Don't tempt me.

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Well, I hope the kids enjoy the money.

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Thank you. So do I. They will.

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Next up, a three-piece christening set belonging to Valerie.

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Been looking forward to this?

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-Yes, but I'm nervous.

-Is this your first auction?

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-It is.

-Really? Have you had a chance to look around and see if you want to buy anything?

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-Oh, I don't want to buy anything.

-We're only here to sell, aren't we?

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-Oh, yes.

-It's the christening set.

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-Yes.

-Why did you decide to sell this, then?

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-Well, we found it in my mother's house after she died...

-Yeah.

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-So I'd never, ever seen it before so it had no sentimental value.

-No.

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So we just thought on the valuation day we hopefully bring something nice, and it turned out to be OK.

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-And Michael spotted this.

-He did.

-Well, he is our silver expert.

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-Swooped in.

-You did swoop in.

-Like a hawk onto the christening set.

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-It's a lovely thing.

-It's a good one.

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It's very unusual to get the mug in with them.

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It's going under the hammer now.

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Christening set, always useful to have a set available.

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What, about 150 for them? £100.

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Bid. £100 I am bid, then. 110 we have.

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120, 130, £140. No?

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150 I've got, 150 now. 160...

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Ah! Good.

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170 I am bid 80, 180.

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180, 190. £190. In the room with 190.

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-It's sold.

-Yes.

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200 now. 190 then I am selling. £200.

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210 we've got now. At 210.

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220?

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220, madam?

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-No? 210 gets it then. £210.

-Yes. 210.

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-We'll know next time, won't we?

-That's fantastic.

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-Oh, great.

-210.

-Yeah.

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-Valerie, happy?

-Very happy.

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There's commission to pay but what will you spend the money on?

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Well, I'll buy some euros because I'm going on holiday.

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-Oh, where are you going?

-Ibiza.

-Oh, lovely.

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-I hope so.

-Lovely.

-Fingers crossed.

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Mind you, it's hot enough in here today isn't it?

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-Yes. Trial run I think.

-Good practice for it. Enjoy the holiday.

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Thank you.

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Right now it's time to sell those 73 Staffordshire pot lids.

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Was it the right decision to sell them as an entire collection rather than splitting them up?

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Let's find out. We haven't got Dave but we've got Dave's Aunt Marilyn.

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-Hello, pleased to meet you.

-Hello.

-So where's Dave today?

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-He's in Cyprus on holiday.

-Oh, is he? Nice place to go.

-Lovely.

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-Be hot out there right now.

-I should think so.

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So, being his aunt, have you seen this collection grow?

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Um, I've seen some of it but not all of it.

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No? Doesn't fascinate you?

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-No, not at all.

-Not really. Not in the least!

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-No.

-It's a great collection.

-It is. I went and had a look at it now.

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Lot of money too. £2,000 to £4,000 we've got on this, Thomas.

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Had a chat with the auctioneer - Marilyn doesn't know this -

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he was a bit disappointed that he couldn't separate them because there's such a lot there...

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-Yes.

-And as Thomas knows, there's some good ones and some poorer ones.

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He wanted to separate them to let the collectors have a fair share

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of the fight but unfortunately Dave said no, they have to go in one lot.

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Yes, that's kind of disappointing because if they were separated, you would get that money, if not more.

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We need £2,000 and that's the fixed reserve as well.

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Here we go. Good luck, both of you.

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Now we have the collection of pot lids

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and no doubt you have all done your calculations.

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500 I am bid for them then, at 550 I am bid. At 600.

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At 600 I'm bid, £600, 650 I'm bid for them. 700 I am bid...

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-She's keen over there.

-800 I'm bid, and 50.

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Are you going to be 900? 900 we're bid, at 950.

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It's got to be 1,000, 1,000 bid. 1,000 I am bid for them then, £1,000.

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1,050, 1,150. And £1,200 then. No? At £1,200...

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-No they're not going to sell.

-At 12 hundred pound all finished.

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-Not selling.

-No they're not selling.

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They're going too slow, aren't they?

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At £1,200.

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-I'm sorry, not sold.

-Oh, well.

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-You've got to wrap them up.

-I know.

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-At least it's not a grand piano is it?

-No you're right there.

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-Wrap them and put them on edge, that way they'll travel easier.

-OK, thank you.

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I guess get on the phone to Dave and say, look it's been disappointing..

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-Have a great holiday.

-..but have a great holiday, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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-OK.

-Yes. Thank you very much.

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-Thank you, Marilyn.

-Thank you.

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Although Dave wanted to keep the pot-lid collection complete,

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in pure market terms I am sure he would have been better taking the auctioneer's advice.

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Hopefully we can do better with our next item.

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Right let's see if this next lot gets the seal of approval, if you know what I mean.

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It's the Queen Victoria seal belonging to Charles with a value of £400 to £600.

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-Who have you brought along?

-My wife, Patricia.

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Hi, hello. Can I call you Patricia or is it Pat?

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-It's Pat.

-Pat. Oh, is it?

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-What do you think of the seal?

-I love it.

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-You love it.

-And I've had it 25 years.

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-Oh, it's yours, is it?

-Yes.

-Ah.

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-Charles bought it for me.

-Since the valuation day, you've put the reserve up, haven't you?

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-Yes.

-You've had a chat to the auctioneer. Did you know that, Michael?

-No.

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-It's not four to six any more, it now starts at six.

-Crikey.

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That's put a bit of pressure on.

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It really has got to make an impression in the saleroom today!

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-Oh, dear!

-Oh, I like that line!

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I didn't think of that one!

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Oh, you have to be quick on your feet!

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It might get there, it's just that we haven't got the back-story for the Queen Victoria inscription.

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-With that, we're £2,000 to £3,000.

-Yes.

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So it's going to struggle and I don't know... I don't know if you'll get it clear but I hope...

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We're going to find out. Why did you want to sell it again, Patricia?

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Our dog was sick for many years and we couldn't go on holiday abroad

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and she died last year, so I'm taking him on holiday.

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OK, the money's going towards a holiday.

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-Yes.

-Well, good luck, this is it.

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And it's got the inscription on there, "from Queen Victoria".

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What a lovely item this one is. There you are.

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What about £600 for it or 500 or 400?

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400 bid for it now, £400, at 400 bid, I am bid 420, I am bid 50 now, sir.

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500 he says, 520 I am bid, and 50, sir.

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-Oh, it's close.

-520 and 50 is it?

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550, yes? 550 bid.

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Come on, yes. Come on Steven, work it.

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At 550. You won't see another one. 600, I've got it now.

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He's got a bid over there.

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-Yes, he's sold it.

-At 600 bid, at £600 I'm bid. And 20 to you, sir.

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600's on my left then, if there's no further bid, I'm selling.

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You want it now? 620. I'm selling on my right then at £620, then.

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Yes, it's gone very quickly there.

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-Patricia, £620.

-Delighted.

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I've just got to say, it's all down to Michael here.

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-Well, and Charles. And Charles.

-Put a bit of extra pressure on you there.

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I was sweating at 550 I can tell you.

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-So was I.

-There was a long pause between 550 and 6.

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But it was 4 to 6 and we got the top end and that's what counts.

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-Perfect, yeah.

-Thank you, Michael.

-Enjoy the holiday.

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-We certainly will, thank you.

-Thank you.

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Later on we will be back at the zoo and there's a four legged theme running inside AND out.

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This is the Rolls Royce of rocking-horse makers.

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RAF Halton is one of the larger airforce stations in the United Kingdom and it's considered

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to be the gateway to an exciting and challenging career in the Royal Air Force.

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This place has a great reputation as a training centre for excellence.

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You can see why, can't you?

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By the right!

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Quick march!

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While it has never been a pilot-training centre,

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Halton in Buckinghamshire has been the location for RAF support services

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like catering and dentistry.

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In 1919 Lord Trenchard established a number one school of technical training here.

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For over 70 years the skills of air mechanics were taught

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to over 40,000 apprentices before the school moved elsewhere in the 1990s.

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Today RAF Halton is the first port of call for all new airmen and airwomen.

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Recruits do all their nine-week basic training here

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before moving on to specialise in the many divisions of the airforce.

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To tell me more, I've come to meet Squadron Leader Colin Baker.

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Colin, tell me a bit more about RAF Halton.

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RAF Halton is a non-technical training base and here we probably get something like 21,000 students

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a year on a variety of courses such as catering,

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health and safety, recruit training, of course, professional training and management training.

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So there is a lot that goes on here that people don't realise about.

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-Gosh, that is, isn't it? You cover all sorts of careers here.

-Yes, very much so.

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If I went on this nine-week course what would you put me through?

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Well, what is very important, we're very much a mobile airforce nowadays

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so we go out on operations quite a lot and we've got to start that training somewhere so what

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we do is we teach them how to look after a weapon, how to look after their colleagues if they got injured,

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-and other things such as team work, communication skills.

-Bonding.

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Yeah, very much bonding.

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And I think if you talk to a lot of these youngster and say to them,

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"Do you think you've changed?" they'd go, "Yes, I'm more confident, I'm working as a team player..."

0:24:480:24:54

-Yes.

-You know. "..And I haven't touched my Playstation for weeks."

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You're developing their character. They're doing drill at the moment.

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I mean, this goes back centuries, doesn't it, in terms of military discipline?

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They do. Drilling in effect is a way of bringing people together to actually act and work together.

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Drill looks absolutely rubbish if people have go tick-tock arms,

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if they're not in sequence, and as you can hear behind me here...

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-Oh, yes, that's incredible. The unison there, they're so perfectly in time.

-It is.

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And as you can probably hear now they're calling the times in so they all get it all together.

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-On the day they won't be doing this.

-Yes.

-So it will be much, much more professional.

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For over 90 years the RAF has played a major part in protecting our country.

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In fact their efforts against the Luftwaffe during the Battle of Britain prompted Winston Churchill

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to famously say, "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few."

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And included amongst those were the support staff that made it all possible.

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Whilst the camp at Halton doesn't train pilots as such

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there is a grass airfield which is used for light aircraft.

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As part of the basic nine-week training period, all new recruits

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are given a taste of flying in a microlight.

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I managed to avoid basic instruction on the drill parade earlier

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but I haven't been able to duck out of this one, and quite frankly I wouldn't want to.

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A trip up in a state-of-the-art microlight aircraft. And I'm ready for this.

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I'm in safe hands, I'm with Flight Lieutenant Keith Watson and he's going to look after me.

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-Are we ready?

-Let's go.

-Let's take her up.

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-Look at that.

-Incredible speed! What lift just then!

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Flaps up.

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-This is so incredible.

-So, what happens with the trainees is each trainee, up to 1,200 a year,

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gets to experience this for half an hour and that includes hands-on

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so they can get experience how it feels to move the aeroplane

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and essentially get to feel what it's like to fly.

0:27:180:27:21

-Yeah.

-And that kind of adventurous training as well.

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And that's just amazing to experience this at such a young age.

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That's a stunning view.

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-With me?

-Whey!

0:27:360:27:39

Wow. ..Oh, dear!

0:27:410:27:45

We're coming in for landing.

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Oh, Keith, that was perfect, absolutely perfect.

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Well, it wasn't THAT good!

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You didn't feel the wheels touch the grass.

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I was expecting a lot of bouncing.

0:28:050:28:08

You're making me blush!

0:28:080:28:09

Woah! That was incredible, just amazing!

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It's wonderful to see these professional guys at work, and the training here is second to none.

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I believe we've got the best airforce in the world.

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And RAF Halton has had a motto since it was first formed, "Teach, learn and apply," and I tell you what,

0:28:250:28:30

that's as appropriate today as it was back in the early 20th century.

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And thank you so much, Keith, best day of my life. It was brilliant!

0:28:350:28:39

Back at Whipsnade Zoo we're hunting for more valuations and Thomas has pounced on a rather nice painting.

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So Carole, you've brought along a picture today.

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It's been hanging in the house?

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Yes. Behind the door.

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-Is it something that is a family favourite?

-I quite like it.

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My husband's not really that keen.

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He prefers watercolours.

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OK well this is definitely not a watercolour, this is an oil on panel or board.

0:29:040:29:09

-Yeah.

-How did you come by it?

-My father-in-law collected antiques.

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So, by looking at this, he certainly did you know have an eye to it as well.

0:29:120:29:17

It does have a little bit of crazing but let's talk about the artist and what it is.

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-Pictures are helpfully signed and there's JP there.

-Yeah.

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And this man was called John Thomas Peel and he was a Victorian British

0:29:260:29:30

artist and this is a typical genre scene, what we call genre of life.

0:29:300:29:36

There's a man, a gentleman here playing his tin whistle.

0:29:360:29:40

Maybe he plays in pubs and he's in between pubs

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and he's just practising before he goes into his next pub,

0:29:420:29:46

-and his hat's off or whatever, I don't know.

-Yeah.

0:29:460:29:50

But it's got that lovely sort of look to it

0:29:500:29:54

and, you know, the light on his face and the hands,

0:29:540:29:58

it's a dark night and the street light's just got him

0:29:580:30:00

and Peel has captured this image.

0:30:000:30:03

But let's have a look at the reverse of it, and there we can see,

0:30:030:30:06

if we turn it round, it's quite a nice panel, isn't it?

0:30:060:30:10

-Yeah.

-Good panel and it's got some stretchers across here.

-Some dust.

0:30:100:30:14

Some dust, yeah, a bit of dust but that all adds value.

0:30:140:30:17

But here, this is quite fun. I don't know...

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"A study from life, a man who has seen better days.

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"Painted by JT Peel, May 1866."

0:30:260:30:31

Yeah.

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Now, why do you want to sell it?

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-It doesn't really go with what we've got in the house I'm afraid.

-Really?

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And what do you think it's worth?

0:30:400:30:41

Well, I think, because I like it, I think about £300, I would pay for it.

0:30:410:30:47

-You'd pay 300?

-Yes, cos I like it, but as I say it's...

-OK.

0:30:470:30:51

Well, I think you're a little bit low.

0:30:510:30:55

I would like to put this in at auction at £800 to £1,200.

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800 to 1,200 !

0:30:590:31:01

-Yes!

-Do you like that?

-Very much. Yes. Would you like to do that?

0:31:010:31:05

-Absolutely. Yes.

-I think you better have a reserve on it.

0:31:050:31:08

-Yes.

-Sort of 700.

0:31:080:31:10

It's a good-looking picture.

0:31:100:31:13

I like it even more now!

0:31:130:31:14

Dave, thank you for bringing these...

0:31:210:31:23

-You're welcome.

-..wonderful plaques.

0:31:230:31:26

-Did you bring the Brasso and the rag as well?

-Yes,

0:31:260:31:29

-been rubbed to death, I'm afraid.

-Where do they originally come from?

0:31:290:31:32

These came from my aunt who left them.

0:31:320:31:35

She was lady-in-waiting and when she left they were given to her as a present.

0:31:350:31:39

What a marvellous present.

0:31:390:31:41

-And she's passed them on to you.

-She did, yes.

0:31:410:31:44

So why now have you decided to part with them?

0:31:440:31:46

Well, cos they're not on display so somebody else might enjoy them.

0:31:460:31:50

-Get them framed or set into something.

-A horsey person would probably enjoy them more than me.

0:31:500:31:55

A horsey person would love them. How long have you had them?

0:31:550:31:58

About, about 30 years.

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Looking at them, you might think it's a couple of brass plaques...

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I did, yes.

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Or even copper in a certain light,

0:32:060:32:09

but they are supposed to be a deep rich nut brown.

0:32:090:32:13

-Oh, right.

-Because they're both bronze.

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And thankfully we've got a signature, which makes life tremendously easy

0:32:160:32:20

-when you're doing bronzes, of Georges Gardet.

-Right.

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And he was working in France and he was one of the animalia school.

0:32:230:32:28

-Right.

-And it's a French school and basically they cast figural bronzes

0:32:280:32:33

of animals in a naturalistic setting.

0:32:330:32:35

They are very finely done.

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I imagine that they were produced anywhere from about 1860 up to 1890

0:32:370:32:44

and the sad thing is that every time there were polished,

0:32:440:32:50

-it's like rubbing away...

-Pound notes.

-Pound notes.

-Right!

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It really is because it doesn't just rub the surface off,

0:32:530:32:57

-it starts to wear away at the detail.

-Right.

0:32:570:32:59

So any idea what they're worth?

0:32:590:33:02

Not really, no.

0:33:020:33:04

I mean certainly these in their polished state, I think we should

0:33:040:33:08

-pitch them at £100 to £200.

-Well, that's fine.

0:33:080:33:12

-Give it a broad sweep.

-That's fine.

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And if we set the reserve slightly under that, at 80,

0:33:150:33:18

-to give the auctioneer a little bit of discretion.

-Yes.

0:33:180:33:21

-Then hopefully there'll be a couple of horse lovers at the auction...

-That would be lovely, yes.

0:33:210:33:25

..who'll get carried away with them and not polish them any more!

0:33:250:33:28

I won't touch them! Well, they'll be gone, hopefully.

0:33:280:33:32

-If you're happy, we'll pop them into the sale.

-Lovely, thanks.

-Marvellous.

0:33:320:33:35

-Thank you for bringing them along.

-That's lovely. Thanks.

0:33:350:33:38

I've just been told there's something I need to see outside.

0:33:410:33:46

Gosh, and they were right as well.

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Look at this, a rocking horse!

0:33:470:33:50

-Hello. What's your name?

-Jonathan Dick.

0:33:500:33:52

Jonathan, thank you so much for coming here today.

0:33:520:33:56

Well, I thought this was an unusual thing to bring

0:33:560:33:58

but it's so beautiful, I thought you might be interested.

0:33:580:34:00

I'm so pleased you left it on the trailer, it just looks great.

0:34:000:34:03

I bet everybody when you were driving here was...

0:34:030:34:06

-Tooting!

-"Ooh, look at that!"

0:34:060:34:08

I was getting worried in case I caused an accident!

0:34:080:34:11

Well, stop the traffic.

0:34:110:34:13

It's magnificent.

0:34:130:34:14

Tell me a bit about its history, has this been in the family long?

0:34:140:34:18

Yeah, I've had it 45 years and I bought it because we show horses

0:34:180:34:23

and carriages, and I was told about some carriages in a barn,

0:34:230:34:27

and I went down there to buy the carriages.

0:34:270:34:30

I pulled one of the carriages out and the horse was underneath one.

0:34:300:34:35

-Hey presto!

-Just lying there on its side.

0:34:350:34:39

I said, "I've got two children and they are going to love this."

0:34:390:34:42

-And they have used it?

-Well, I've got pictures.

0:34:420:34:45

They've rode it and loved it. But I had the old boy from Sotheby's

0:34:450:34:50

that told me what type it was, a hunter.

0:34:500:34:52

It is a hunter. The ears are pricked forward, the nostrils are flared.

0:34:520:34:56

But I like the way the head is kinking to one side, not full on.

0:34:560:35:01

That's it. And I didn't know there were so many different types

0:35:010:35:05

-of rocking horses.

-Oh, yes. This is lovely

0:35:050:35:07

because it's the traditional height,

0:35:070:35:10

this is circa 1860 to 1880, in original condition.

0:35:100:35:14

-Yes.

-I'm so pleased you haven't fiddled with this

0:35:140:35:16

or touched it or repainted it.

0:35:160:35:18

-No.

-And it's on sleigh bow rockers.

0:35:180:35:21

-Yes.

-That's what the collectors and dealers are looking for.

0:35:210:35:24

-Yes.

-This is a rocking horse for the purist. And it's 50 inches high,

0:35:240:35:28

it's a standard configuration.

0:35:280:35:30

Um, obviously it's had some wear and tear but, for its age,

0:35:300:35:34

the condition is fantastic because it's completely original,

0:35:340:35:39

you've not repainted this or restored it.

0:35:390:35:42

And that's what I'm looking for and there it is, "FH Ayres".

0:35:420:35:45

Now, that stamp mark underneath gives us the maker's name.

0:35:450:35:49

-This is the Rolls Royce...

-Is it?

0:35:490:35:51

..of rocking-horse makers. You can't beat Ayres.

0:35:510:35:54

The American market will go potty for this if we can get this on the internet.

0:35:540:35:59

I've sold these ten years ago for £2,000.

0:35:590:36:03

-It's got its original glass eyes.

-They're beautiful, aren't they?

0:36:030:36:07

Oh, I don't know what to say! It's one of the nicest ones

0:36:070:36:10

-I've seen and I'd like to put this into auction with a value of £2,000 to £3,000.

-Thank you.

0:36:100:36:15

-I know it's looking tatty but I wouldn't be surprised if we got that top end.

-Oh, good.

0:36:150:36:19

-A fixed reserve at £2,000...

-Yes.

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Which means it's not going to sell for anything under that, OK?

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But you're not going to have to worry about that.

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-I can see this doing 2,600 or 2,700.

-Marvellous.

-It's going to gallop away.

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-And I look forward to seeing you in the auction room.

-Pleasure.

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This is where it gets exciting.

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We're moving over to the auction room and taking all our items with us.

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And just to jog your memory, here's a recap of all the items that are going under the hammer.

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It doesn't suit her home but Carole is pleasantly surprised

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at the valuation of her Victorian painting.

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I would like to put this in at auction at £800 to £1,200.

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£800 to £1,200! Yes!

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Acquired from his aunt, let's hope Dave can clean up

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with his cleaned-up brass plaques.

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Every time they were polished,

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it's like rubbing away pound notes, it really is.

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And finally, this rocking horse was found in a barn.

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Jonathan knows I'm backing it to win but will it rock the sale room?

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So, first up, how will Carole's painting get on under the hammer?

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Carole, this is real quality.

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I think Victorian art is undervalued right now.

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We've got £800 to £1,200 on this put on by our expert Thomas.

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-Yes.

-It's got to sell, doesn't it?

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It's delightful, it's so delightful.

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-Why are you selling this?

-My husband doesn't really like it.

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-Do you like it?

-I quite like it, yes.

-Have you been bullied into this?

-Sort of, yeah.

-Sort of.

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Well, hopefully it'll get a little more than the top end.

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Fingers crossed.

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We need a good day and we need a room full of art lovers because it's going under the hammer right now.

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"A man who has seen better days." A good artist, though.

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Is there £1,000 out there somewhere for it?

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500 for it? 400? £400. £400.

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Tumbleweed.

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It really is not enough money for this artist. £400.

0:38:150:38:18

-At £450, £500, 550...

-Come on, Steven, work it!

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There ought to be a one in front of this, you know. 700 bid for it?

0:38:240:38:27

650 on the left. 680, sir?

0:38:290:38:32

680, sir? 680?

0:38:320:38:35

650? No?

0:38:350:38:36

650, there you go.

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You see, if you try hard enough...

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-At £650.

-I don't believe it!

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At 650.

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-Yes, we've got a bidder.

-Well, done. I wondered where you'd gone!

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At £700, then.

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Fresh legs in the room. Fresh legs.

0:38:510:38:53

Another peep. No?

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At 750 then, at 750, I'm going to sell it, then...

0:38:560:38:59

He's selling at 750.

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At £750.

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-Yes. We sold it at £750.

-Lovely.

-They got it at a good price.

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They got it at a good price but it's the subject matter, that's what...

0:39:060:39:09

-Yes.

-It was the old dude with his tin whistle.

-Absolutely.

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If it was a pretty young girl with a flute,

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you know, zeroes on the end! But no.

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-But it was quality.

-Beautiful.

-Quite happy with that.

-You've got to be happy with that.

-Oh, yes.

-Yeah.

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There is commission to pay but what will you put that money towards?

0:39:230:39:27

I've got some friends here and it looks like I shall be buying...

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-Lunch.

-..the evening meal.

-Oh, the evening meal?

-Yes. Fish and chips!

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Right, now, something for all you horse lovers.

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We've got two bronze plaques with a value of £100 to £200.

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It sounds like a real bargain and they belong to Dave. Hi, hello..

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-Who have you brought along with you?

-Gwyneth, my partner.

0:39:480:39:51

Hello, Gwyneth, lovely to see you.

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Do you agree with him selling these? Because I think they're gorgeous.

0:39:530:39:56

Well, they are gorgeous but things have changed these days and we're going for the minimalist look.

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-You don't like the brass, you don't like the shiny.

-Cleaning.

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Well, at £80 reserve I think we've sold them, don't you?

0:40:040:40:07

-Absolutely.

-They're going to gallop off.

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Right now they're under starters orders. This is it.

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There it is, horse scenes in the paddocks. There we go.

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They're rather nice. I think we ought to get to £100 without trying.

0:40:150:40:19

£50? Thank you, yes. 60 I have now, do I? 70.

0:40:190:40:23

£80, madam? Yes. 90.

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On the reserve.

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At £90, and 100 for you. £100 bid. 100 I am bid.

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Are you going to be 10, sir? 110. At £120, and 30, £130.

0:40:300:40:36

-Come on.

-£140 now, 140 bid. At 140, I am bid for those.

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And 50, is it? 150 we've got now.

0:40:410:40:45

-This is more like it.

-And 60? No? At 150, then.

0:40:450:40:47

I sell them for £150, then.

0:40:470:40:51

Yes, the hammer's gone down. £150. The bidders were in fine fettle.

0:40:510:40:54

-Thank you.

-Happy?

-Thank you, yes.

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-No more polishing.

-No more polishing.

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What are you going to do with £150? There is commission to pay, though.

0:40:590:41:02

Yes. Put it towards a holiday.

0:41:020:41:05

Yes, and don't buy any more polish!

0:41:050:41:08

Earlier on in the show I said it was going to rock your afternoon.

0:41:130:41:16

It's just about to start. I've been joined by Jonathan

0:41:160:41:19

and you've probably guessed by now - yes, we're selling the rocking horse.

0:41:190:41:23

Great to see you again. This is causing a stir in the sale room.

0:41:230:41:26

Well, I've had it a long time, you know 50, 60 years,

0:41:260:41:30

and I love the old thing but, ah, I think it's in good hands with you.

0:41:300:41:34

It is in good hands. It's been fed and watered!

0:41:340:41:37

-This is it.

-Right.

0:41:390:41:41

One of the foremost makers, Frederick Ayres.

0:41:410:41:44

Shall we start at £1,000 or £1,500? £1,000 I am bid, then.

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1,100 we are bid now. 1,200 is bid. 1,300 I am bid, at 1,400 is bid.

0:41:480:41:53

At 1,500, 1,600, 1,700 we are bid now.

0:41:530:41:59

At 1,700, 1,800. 1,900 is bid, 2,000 I am bid now.

0:41:590:42:03

At 2,000, 2,000...

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Let's see if we can get the top end.

0:42:060:42:07

..At 2,100, it's in the room, at 2,200,

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2,300, at 2,400, now at 2,400, we're not in the home straight yet.

0:42:110:42:16

2,500, 2,500.

0:42:160:42:19

2,600, I am bid.

0:42:190:42:21

2,700 now. 2,700 bid.

0:42:210:42:23

2,800, 2,800, 2,900 now.

0:42:230:42:27

-At 2,900 I am bid, at 2,900, at 3,000 bid...

-Yes!

-Get in there!

0:42:270:42:32

-We're just into the home straight, I think.

-It is.

0:42:320:42:35

-3,000, 3,100...

-The auctioneer's got the bit in his mouth now.

0:42:350:42:39

At 3,100, 3,200 I am bid.

0:42:390:42:43

One last push. 3,300.

0:42:430:42:45

3,400, is it? At £3,300, then. 3,400 now?

0:42:450:42:49

I am selling on my left, then, at £3,300.

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Love it, love it, love it, yes!

0:42:530:42:56

£3,300.

0:42:560:42:58

-Thank goodness you brought that to Whipsnade Zoo, Jonathan.

-Yes.

0:42:580:43:01

Oh, it's been a real pleasure selling that, honestly.

0:43:010:43:05

Well, how do you feel?

0:43:050:43:07

I'm thrilled because my wife

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will be delighted, because all I hope it gets a good home.

0:43:090:43:12

It's going to. It's going to go to a good home.

0:43:120:43:15

If they're prepared to spend that much money on that rocking horse, that's going to a good home.

0:43:150:43:20

-I hope you've enjoyed yourself.

-A pleasure.

0:43:200:43:22

I've enjoyed selling that and I hope you've enjoyed watching the show.

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Sadly, we've run out of time from Tring, but until next time,

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take care, and there's going to be plenty more surprises to come.

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0:43:380:43:40

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