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People have been crossing the Monnow River in the Wye Valley for the last past 800 years | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
using this bridge, and now it's our turn. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Welcome to Flog It! from Monmouth in Wales. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
And he's running! | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
Monnow Bridge, with its impressive gate tower, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
is the only surviving mediaeval bridge of its kind in Britain. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
Each century has left its mark, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
adapting and expanding the bridge and the tower, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
so it could serve as a toll house, guard room and even a dwelling. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
Today this bridge provides a busy toll-free thoroughfare | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
connecting the outlying areas to Monmouth's centre, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
and that's where we need to be. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:00 | |
And later I'll be travelling out and about to the nearby Forest of Dean | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
where creatures can be conjured up in all shapes and sizes. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
As you can see, the local people of Monmouth have turned out in force | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
at today's venue, Monmouth Comprehensive School. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
We've got a massive queue, so let's get them inside. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
And already delving into the antiques and collectables | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
are today's experts, Charlie Ross and Mark Stacey, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
so, as the crowds flood in, let's jump to the front of the queue | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
where Mark is ready to pull the strings. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
-Hello, Gordon. Hello, Barbara. -Hello. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
-You've brought, obviously, a violin in to show us. -Yes. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
Now, tell us a little bit about it. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
When our daughter was at primary school she wanted to learn to play | 0:01:45 | 0:01:51 | |
and a neighbour said she had a violin which we could have, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
so that's how we came by it. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
-It was in a bit of disrepair, so we had to have reglued. -Right. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
But then my daughter had it and played it for a number of years | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
and then later on, a younger brother took it on. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
-Oh, right. -Yes. -So, it's had a good bit of family use? | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
-Oh, yes. -Yes. -Yes. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
Can you remember what you paid for it with your neighbour? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
-I think it was £10. -£10. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
-£10, gosh. And then a little bit to have it reglued. -Yes, yes. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
-And you got the bow with it as well at the same time. -Yes, yes, it came with that. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
-The nice thing with this, of course, it's signed in the case. -Yes, yes. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
"Stent, 1915", | 0:02:32 | 0:02:33 | |
and a little number four on the left hand bottom of the label, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
-so it could be his fourth violin, you never know. -That's right, yes. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
Obviously, you know, we've got the signature | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
and I think it's always nice to look all over the instrument. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
-You get this lovely grain at the back. -It's beautiful. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
And I particularly like the fact, it's nice quality, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
because he's done these etched lines really all round the outline there. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
I don't know if you've noticed there the black inlay or markings there. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
-But it's quite nicely balanced, isn't it? -Yes, yes. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
It's of typical construction of course, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
except for this rather nice little finial at the end there, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
-which looks a bit like a melon, doesn't it? -Yes, yes. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
-Or a tomato. -Someone suggested it might be a pomegranate. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
It could be a pomegranate actually, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
with that sort of seed bit there, it could well be. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
-But I like it. I love the fact that you, almost recycled it, really, didn't you? -Yes. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
-The neighbour was about to throw it out. -Yes. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
You recycled it and then your daughter and son had great pleasure out of using it for all those years. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:34 | |
-That's right. -Where has it lived recently? | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
-Well, in the loft. -Oh, dear. -Yes. -Stuck up in the loft. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-That's why it's come along to you. -Come to us today. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
-And hopefully we'll strike the right note on it. -Yes. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
In terms of value, it's nice you've got the bow. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
-I couldn't see any signatures on the bow. -No, no. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
-But bows are worth a little bit of money in their own right. -Yes. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
I would suggest it may be around £200 to £300 in today's market, | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
-but put the reserve at 200. -Yes. -Right. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
With a bit of discretion with the auctioneer, but who knows? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
It might go way above that. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
-It will be quite exciting, I should think. -Yes, it will. -It will be interesting. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
-Have you been to auctions before? -No. -No, we haven't. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-It'll be your first time? -Yes. -Yes. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
-We must try it, mustn't we? -Yes, we must. -Fantastic. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
Jane, it's lovely to meet you. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
What I want to know is why is this little piggy going off to market? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
Well, he's at home and he's living in a chest of drawers | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
-and it doesn't seem fair. And I think... | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
-Why's he in a chest of drawers? -I've put him up for safekeeping. -Oh, I see. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
I bought him with lots of other bits and pieces... | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
-How long ago? -And I liked him. About 20 years ago now. -OK. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-I liked him. I liked his little eyes. -He's got... -Character. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
-He's got the cutest little eyes! -Yeah. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
Do you know anything about him? | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
-It's German. -Yeah. -That's about all. -That's about all you know. -Yeah. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
-And he still works. -Yes. -Do you want to wind him up? -OK. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
Go on, wind him up, let's watch him play before we talk about him. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
-That's great, isn't it? You can hear the rhythm. -Yes, yeah. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
It's a two bar phrase, isn't it? Listen. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Oh, he's stopped. We were trying to play in unison, march together! | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
We were all marching off to the sale room! | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
He is beautiful. He really is. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
I'm going to pick him up and have a quick look. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
I'll take the key out. The thing to look for... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
-A typical tin plate toy you can tell by his feet. -Right. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
You can see that. This is sort of pressed die-cast metal. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
There's the giveaway sign. It says there "Made in Germany". | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
-Right. -Made in Germany and there, that's what you're looking for. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
-In there, it's very, very hard to see, that says Schuco. -Right. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
Now that's a German toy manufacturer that was founded in 1912 | 0:05:53 | 0:05:59 | |
by Heinrich Mueller and Heinrich Schreyer. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
OK? And they were very, very successful tinplate toymakers | 0:06:01 | 0:06:07 | |
and they exported to this country and predominantly really to America | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
right up until the Second World War. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Aww. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:14 | |
Now, I can tell you he has a valuation of around £40 to £60. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
-Right. -One sold recently for £40. -Right. -In about the same condition. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
-So, that's a good guide price. -Yes. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
He is part of a trio. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
-Now, there's a fiddle playing pig who's covered in felt. -Oh, right! | 0:06:27 | 0:06:33 | |
-And a flautist who's covered in felt. -Right. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
-Now, if you've got the trio together they're worth £200 to £300. -Right. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
I'm hoping someone in the saleroom might have the fiddle player | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
and they'll pay a lot more than £40 or £50 for him, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
because they'll want a little duo. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
-So, let's give him a value of £40 to £60. -Right. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
-With a reserve of 40. -Lovely. -Are we happy with that? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
-I'm happy with that. -Sure? -Yes. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
Let's wind him up one more time | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
-and march out with him, shall we? -OK. -Go on, then. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
There we go. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
It's slowing down now! | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Zana, he is super. I love him. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
When you brought him along, did you know anything about him? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
-I knew a little, that he was an Austrian bronze. -Yeah. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
And obviously I tipped him up and checked on the name. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
-Had a look, yes. -He's just been in the family. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
I suspect when you tipped it up, you saw the name Geschuetz. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
-That's right, yes. -Manufactured. Where did he come from? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
-He was grandma's. -Right. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
And he sat on her sideboard in the parlour, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
but there was another little boy that had his head in his hands | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
and they both were looking at the little pot, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
-which I'm not quite sure... -At the pot? -Yes. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
And I'm not quite sure quite what was brewing in the pot. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
-What do you think? -I don't know. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Something a little wicked or perhaps coffee. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
-Coffee, I think. -Coffee. -Don't get too excited. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-OK. Right. -I think the pot's too big | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
-and it's traditional Moroccan or whatever shape... -Yes. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
-Or even Middle Eastern shape for a coffee pot. -Right. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-So, I think we can say coffee... -Coffee. -Quite safely. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
-Nothing more risque than that. -Right. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
And you're right, it is Austrian. Date? | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
-Late 19th century. -Yeah. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
-Late 19th century. It's about 1890. -Right. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
Cold cast bronze and hence its weight. It's very heavy. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
-Yes, it is heavy, isn't it? -Yes. -Yes. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
-I'm just going to check underneath. -Right. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
-There we are, it's clear, isn't it? -Yes. Austrian Geschuetz. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
The paintwork is in such good condition. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
-It's quite good, isn't it? -Quite often these have been... | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
-They've gone out of fashion, been put in boxes with other ones and the paintwork chips. -Yes. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
And if you lose the paint, frankly, you lose a huge amount of the value. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
You can repaint it, but you'd never replicate that patination. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
No, I understand that. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
There's a little bit off the hat, off the fez, but the rest of it is splendid. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
-And I love the modelling of the logs. -The coals. -The coals. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
-Little coals or something. -The coals and the logs. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
I think it's wonderful. Value. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
When you were standing in the queue today, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
did you think, "Ah, that's worth X, Y, Z?" | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
-Well, I would have thought over 100. -Yes. -But other than that... | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
Certainly over 100. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
-I would put a conservative estimate of 150 to 200 on it. -Right. -Yeah. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
-I'd like to see it top 200, actually. -It would be nice. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
-It's one of the nicest ones I have seen. -It would be nice. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
We'll put a reserve on it of 150? | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
-That's fine. -Happy with that? -Yes. -With perhaps a little discretion. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
I don't think I'd be disappointed if the auctioneer used his discretion, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
which would be a tenner or so either way, because I think there will be... | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
-Hopefully, there'll be some fierce competition. -Yes. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
-He's lovely. He'll find a new home. -Yes. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Thank you very much for bringing him along. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
We'll see if whoever buys it can find a little companion for him. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
That would be nice. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
-Hello, Ruth. -Hello, Mark. -Nice to meet you. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
Very nice to meet you. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
You've brought a lovely collection of silver in. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Most of it is a family collection? | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
These four items here were family, part of our family collection of silver. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
-And the two napkin rings I bought them fairly recently. -Where... -Online. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
Oh, you're an internet shopper, are you? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
-I'm afraid so. -It's compulsive. -It is. -You want to be careful. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Well, looking at the collection we've got really some very usual things, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
but they're nice in their own individual right. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
We've got a little continental pillbox, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
a little silver matchbox holder, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
a little silver bookmark in the form of a trowel | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
and, as you mentioned, the latest of your purchases, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
the pair of Mappin & Webb napkin rings, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
which are relatively modern, but a lovely shape | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-and have got a good heavy weight. -Very, very heavy weight. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-But the nicest piece I think is this little box here. -Yes. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Immediately, you can see it's continental, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
because the shape of the piece of furniture it's meant to be imitating, or copying as such, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
is a continental piece, probably Dutch. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
-So, I would call it an armoire. -Yes. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
Although it's got a little funny saying on the back, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
-which I think you've translated. -Yes, we have. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
My friend, Bea, who came along with me today, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
she pointed out this means, "This is a new cabinet. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
"It is mine, don't take it!" Or something along those lines. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
I think it's wonderful. It's a little jokey novelty. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
And I think with the type of marks, the style of it, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
-I think we're looking at around about 1900. -Yes. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
-Give or take 10 years either way. -Right, right. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
I think it's quite a charming piece | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
-and that is the sort of thing which would appeal to a box collector. -Yes. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
If I was putting it in for sale, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
I think I would put them in as a little group. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-Right. -But leave the description with the box | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
and I think as a little collection | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
-we're probably looking at around about the £150 mark. -Right. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
-Something like that. -OK. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
And I would suggest putting the estimate straddling that, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
so maybe £120 to £180 with a reserve of 120. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
-OK. -Wonderful. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
Well, I'm very, very happy to have put that in for sale for you | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
and I hope we get you a lot of money and we'll see you at the auction. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
Look at that. That's what we love to see, a very busy valuation day. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
We've now found our first items to take off to auction, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
so we'll leave you with a quick reminder of what we're flogging. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
Gordon and Barbara's daughter no longer plays this violin, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
so it's out of the loft and hopefully into new hands. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
And Jane's hoping her little piggy will make some noise at auction. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
-That's great, isn't it? You can hear the rhythm. -Yes. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Will Ruth's online purchase pull in a profit | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
when she combines the silver napkin rings with her family pieces? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
And I'm confident Zana's grandmother's bronze | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
is by Austrian sculptor Franz Bergman. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-Brilliant. -Oh, my Lord! -Brilliant. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
Right, now's the time to up the tempo. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
For today's sale | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
we've come south to the Athenaeum Auction Rooms here in Cardiff. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
Now, I wonder if our experts are going to be on the money. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
And we'll soon find out because hammering out the prices | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
on the rostrum today is auctioneer Ryan Beech. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
Ruth's collection of silver is up next. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
We've got £120 put on this in value. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
It's a good nucleus for somebody to start a collection. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
It is and it's a good trade off as well, in fairness, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-which we discussed on the day, but I love that... -The armoire. -Dash box. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
It's so sweet. Because we led with that | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
and then we put the other little bits in | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
-just to make it a bit more exciting and tempting, really. -Yeah. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
-I'd have kept that one bit, I think. -Yeah. -It's too late now. -That's the only bit I would like to keep. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:54 | |
Lot 284 is the Dutch, small Dutch white metal box | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
and other silver items here. Lot 284. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
£75 I have to start. At £75. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
At 80. Five. 90. Five. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
100. And ten. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
120. It takes me out at 120. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:09 | |
The gentleman standing at 120 now. At £120. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Standing at 120. At £120. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
-Are we all done, then? -No bids. -At £120? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
-Thank you. -You've got to be happy with that. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
Yeah, very happy, yes. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:20 | |
I'm going to put it towards something else. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
I've started to collect something different now. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Time for the little piggy to go off to market today. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
It's that clockwork tin pig which belongs to Jane. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
We've got £40 to £60 on this. It's a cute little thing and it does work. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
Ryan didn't mention it at all, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:42 | |
-so hopefully he agrees with the valuation... -Right. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
And it's going to sell. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
But I know if it doesn't sell, you're not too bothered. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
No, no, it can come home with me. I'd be quite happy. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
The Schuco automaton in the form of a pig. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
£15 I have to start. At £15. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
At £15. And 18. 20. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
22. 25. 28. 30. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
32. 35. 40. It takes me out at 40. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
45. 50. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
55. 60. 65. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
70. 75. At 75. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
The gentleman standing at 75 now. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
At £75. Are we all done then at £75? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
-Oh, well done. Lovely. -Yeah, that was good, wasn't it? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
-It deserved that. -Yes. -It was worth it. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
It was absolutely charming. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
Next up, a short musical interlude. It's the violin. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
It belongs to Barbara and Gordon and we've got £200 to £300 on this. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
It's cased. It's a cracking example, actually. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
I love the headstock, so unusual, and the condition is very good. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
-Mark, you've put two to three on this. -Yes. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
And I... I didn't mention anything to the auctioneer, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
he hasn't said anything, hopefully he agrees with our valuation. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
-I hope so. It's not my usual subject. -It's not. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
I'm a bit blind on this, I'm afraid. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
-I might have hit a bum note. -Ooh! | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
Well, I... I think we'll get the top end, surely we've got to. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
-I hope so. -That's what I'm hoping. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
-So, have you done any more research on it? -Yes, yes. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
We asked the neighbours who sold it to us | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
and they're telling us that it belonged to a Burt Gutsell, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
who was known as Bertini, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:17 | |
and was leader of the ballroom orchestra in Blackpool | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
during the '20s and '30s. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
That's a really nice piece of history. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
In the '20s, when it was all happening. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Let's hope we get the top end, and hit the right note. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
It's going under the hammer now. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
Lot number 535 is a violin. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
Lot number 535. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Numerous commission bids here. Start me straight in at... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
It's gone quiet. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
£230. 230 I have. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
-Well, we've sold it. -£230. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
At £230. 240. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
250. 260. 270. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
-280. 290. -Fantastic! | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
300. 310. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
At £310. 320, Mike? | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
£320. Yes, please. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
320. 330 with me. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
No? OK. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
At £330. Back with me at £330. Are we all out then at £330? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:09 | |
-Yes! -Brilliant! -That wasn't bad, was it? | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
-You could say we've ended on a crescendo. -Brilliant! | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Barbara, Gordon, wow! | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
Yeah, we're very surprised. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:17 | |
You've got to pay the commission. What are you going to do with £300? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
-Well, we'll split it up between our three children. -Yes, yeah. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
-It will divide up easily, then. -Yes. -It will. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Great result. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
I think we hit the right note. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
-It wasn't a bum note, Mark. -That was excellent. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
When we talk about investing in antiques we talk about quality, condition and a good maker's name. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
This has got the lot. It's a little Austrian cold painted bronze. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
It belongs to Zana, not for much longer, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
-and the name Bergman will just definitely sell this. -Great. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
It's a cracking little thing. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
Charlie, our expert, you fell in love with this. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
I did. I think it's fabulous | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
and the paintwork's pretty good on it, which is good. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
I think probably the estimate is a little conservative. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
I think it is a little bit. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
I had a chat to Ryan the auctioneer before the sale. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
A wonderful Bergman bronze. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
This has got "come and buy me" written all over it at 150 to 200. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
It certainly has. I can see it doubling that. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
The quality of it is superb. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
Look at the folds of the tunic, the detailing of the face and hands. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
It's a lovely quality piece. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
I think probably 300 to 400 would be a sensible estimate. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
Let's find out what the bidders in Cardiff think of this little Bergman piece. Here we go. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
Lot number 577 is the Franz Bergman bronze here, lot 577. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
Numerous commission bids here again. Start me straight in at £210. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
210 I have to start. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
220. 230. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
240. It takes me out at 240. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
At £240. 250. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
260. 270. 280. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
-290. 300. -Brilliant. -310. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
-Oh, my Lord! 320. 330. -Three to four. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
340. 350. 360. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
At £360. Back of the room at 360. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
Are we all done, then, at 360? | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
-Sold! £360. -That's good, isn't it? | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
-Yeah, we're happy with the three to four. -Yes. Great. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
You've got to be over the moon with that? | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
I'm going to buy a Belcher chain to put on a locket of gran's. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
Oh, lovely. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:16 | |
Cos it was her grandma's and over the years it's worn, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
so I'll put a new chain on it. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
That's a nice thing to remember her by. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
So it's handed down through oldest daughters, so... | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
-Then you can pass that on again. -That's right. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
That's the end of our first visit to the auction room today. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
We are coming back later on in the show, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
but before I go back to the valuation day in Monmouth | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
I'm going to take a short detour... | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
to this impressive canopy, 42 square miles of woodland that makes up the Forest of Dean. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:47 | |
This ancient forest was for many centuries owned by the reigning king | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
or queen of England with the trees being used for fuelling industry. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
Since the 1970s this enchanting forest | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
has been run by the Forestry Commission for leisure and tourism. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
Today this enchanting forest has become a great source of inspiration | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
for many local artists, including the man I'm meeting today. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:17 | |
Clayton Ryder is a sculptor, but he's got more than just artistic interest in the Forest of Dean. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:23 | |
You could say it's in his blood. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:24 | |
-Clayton, it's lovely to meet you. -Hiya, Paul. It's nice to meet you. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
-I think your work is fantastic. -Thank you very much. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
-You're a talented man. -Thank you very much, you're very kind. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Before we talk about all these, can we take a pew here? | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
And I just want to know a little bit about your background because I believe you are a true forester. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
-I am, yeah. I was born within the hundred of St Briavel's. -What's that? | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
That's an old mining term that meant that anybody born within the hundred of St Briavel's | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
-could work a year and a day down a pit and claim free miners' rates. -What do you mean by that? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
Them mines that are run by foresters born and bred still drawing coal from the forest | 0:21:05 | 0:21:13 | |
and that's the only way that coal is drawn now, through the free mines. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
So, obviously your parents were in the mining community. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
They were, yeah. On both sides of my family. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
My mother's side and my father's side have both... | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
-Right. -I went into engineering, following more of my father's side of history, if you like. -Yeah. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:30 | |
And after working many years as an engineer of redundancies here and there | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
sort of made me make a decision. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
I'd seen these chaps doing the carvings at fairs and shows all around. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
So, you make that transition from engineering into...carving. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
-Yeah. -In wood. -Yeah. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-So, you're obviously very good with your hands, then. -I don't mind a bit of work with me hands. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
We're here at the Heritage Centre at the Forest of Dean, so how did you get involved with this? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
Well, I saw a job opportunity come up at the Dean Leisure Centre as a maintenance man. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
-Yeah. -I applied and got this job. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
I've been here now for... This is my fourth year. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
So, I work five days of the week as the site manager here and then on weekends we get on with the carving. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:12 | |
-And you certainly have become a big attraction, haven't you? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
People from all over the country come here to see you work. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-They do, yeah. They do. -Well, I want to talk about your technique | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
because I know you don't use traditional carving tools | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
like hammers and chisels and gougers, do you? | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
No, not at all. I just use a chainsaw. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
-Just literally a chainsaw? -Yeah, nothing else. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Everything I do is chainsaw started and chainsaw finished. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
And you... Did you start all those years ago with a chainsaw or did you actually do it traditionally? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
No, I've never been traditionally trained. I'm self taught. It's just the chainsaw, me and a bit of wood. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
So what's the biggest thing you've ever carved? What was it? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
That was a dragon and it was 22 feet long. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
-Wow! -About four feet across, 22 feet long out of copper beech. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
-And where's that now? -That's in the Forest of Dean. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-Oh, is it? -Yeah. It's in a private residence. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
It came down in the garden and I carved it where it fell. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
I've got to say, on the show we see a lot of carvings of | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
-20th century Black Forest bears, you know the ones, so high? -Yeah. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
Behind you we've got a Forest of Dean carving of a bear, which is full size virtually! | 0:23:09 | 0:23:15 | |
-Yeah. -How long did that take? -It took about 12 hours. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
-About 12 hours working on it. -It's no wonder you use a chainsaw! -Well, that's it. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
I can get the finish that I require and the timber requires with a chainsaw. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
The finish you've got is typical of the chip carving we see on the Black Forest work. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Are we going to get a demonstration? -You are, yeah. -Is it going to be loud? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
-It'll be loud for them that's close! -What will you carve? What are you going to do? | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
-I'm not going to tell you. I'm going to surprise you. -Oh, OK. Am I sitting on it or are you sitting on it? | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
-No, it's over there. -How long do you need? -It should be done in a couple of hours. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
A couple of hours. OK, all right, then. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
In the 1960s, chainsaw dealers in America competed to promote their products | 0:23:48 | 0:23:54 | |
at forestry expos and state fairs, so they carved simple sculptural shapes. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
What started as a gimmick lead to a movement of artists who experimented with chainsaw carving. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:05 | |
While Clayton gets on with his carving, I went to have a look | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
at another important role he plays here in keeping an ancient tradition alive. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:27 | |
For approximately 2,500 years, since the Celts settled within its boundaries, the valuable minerals | 0:24:27 | 0:24:33 | |
of iron ore, coal and stone that lie beneath this forest floor have been extensively mined. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:39 | |
To produce iron you need one important ingredient. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
It's charcoal and it's been produced in this forest since 450 BC | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
and with Clayton's help it still goes on today. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
Clayton organises three burns a year at the Heritage Centre. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
He carefully stacks lengths of wood over a pit. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
This is covered with turf or soil. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
Charcoal embers are dropped into the central hole and the stack burns for four days. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:06 | |
When the smoke pouring out of the vents changes from white to blue the burn is complete. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:12 | |
Well, I can still hear the chainsaw. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
I wonder how Clayton is getting on. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
He's a busy man and time's running out to complete that sculpture, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
but before we see the results, there's another industry that's left its mark on this forest. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
The early 19th century saw Clayton's ancestors heading underground. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
Thousands of men and boys working in the mines that run deep underneath these trees. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
The last big mine closed in 1965, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
but mining continues on a much smaller scale carried out by the Dean Free Miners, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
local foresters like Clayton who still have the right to mine in this forest. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:03 | |
Well, I know I'm a bit early, but I heard the chainsaw stop, so let's see if Clayton's finished. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
-Masking it! Hiya, mate. -All right, buddy? -Yeah. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
That was quick. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
-Aye, quick enough. -And that is fantastic. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
Isn't that amazing? | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
-So quick! -Just over an hour. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
A wonderful bird of prey. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
I love the beak! God, could you imagine just going wrong at the last minute and knocking the beak off? | 0:26:43 | 0:26:49 | |
Where did you start on that? Just talk me through the process of getting a block | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
and then getting that from a solid block? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
I worked out where his back was going to be, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
-so it's just a straight cut down the back. -Yeah. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
Tilt the head slightly so then it's two... Two cuts to get either side of the head. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
-So you've shaped the head that way. -Yeah. -Then cut in for the breast? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
Yeah. Shape the wings in, cut the feathers in. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
-Feet last? -Yeah. Easy as that. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
As easy as that! I think it's brilliant. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
These could be the next collectables of the future. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
We'll see these turning up on Flog It! in 20 years. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
-That would be nice, wouldn't it? -Do you do many private commissions or is a lot of this charity work? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
It's mostly charity work because I work for the museum. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
Anything we can raise goes towards the charity of the museum, because the museum, being a charity, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
-we raise what we can for it. -Yeah, and they're doing such a cracking job here. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -It's a pleasure to meet you. -And you, mate. -You're very talented man. -Thank you very much. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
The people here at the Dean Heritage Centre are working tremendously hard | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
to celebrate and preserve this forest's rich history | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
and the continued use of fallen trees like these by people like Clayton | 0:27:48 | 0:27:54 | |
to make works of art bring that long history bang up to date. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
Out of the woods and back at the valuation tables | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
is true forester Jean and she's brought in an interesting collection that caught Charlie's eye. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:15 | |
Jean, lovely to see you. Where have these medals been hiding? | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
They have been in a wardrobe for about 30 years in a box. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
Oh, have they? And you've had them all that time? | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
-Yeah. -And what made you pull them out today? -I decided I'd have to declutter a little bit, yeah. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
Can you tell me anything about them? | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
I know very little except they belonged to my late husband's father. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
-You're late husband's father. -Who was in the navy. -Who was in the navy. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
Well, hence this wonderful volume entitled | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
World Cruises Of The British Special Service Squadron, '23 to '24. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:50 | |
And these important warships | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
that took part in the war subsequently, in the '39, '45 war | 0:28:53 | 0:29:00 | |
went on a world cruise and this shows where they went and which the ships were. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:06 | |
Right, the ships Hood, Repulse, Delhi, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
Danae, Dragon, Dauntless, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
HMAS Adelaide, Australian ship, and that's where they went all round the world. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:20 | |
Now, the first one I think's interesting, the Hood, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
very, very famous ship which had a very, very famous and tragic ending. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
Now, did you say... | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
-I believe he served on it. -He served on the Hood? | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
-I believe he did, yeah. -He survived the war? -Yeah. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
He obviously wasn't on the Hood in, I don't know whether it was 1940 or '41 | 0:29:35 | 0:29:41 | |
because the Hood and the Repulse were sent out to get the Bismarck. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
I don't know if you've ever seen the film Sink The Bismarck! | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
-Yes, I have, yes. -Kenneth More at his best. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
And the Hood, which was the pride of the British fleet, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
engaged the Bismarck | 0:29:55 | 0:30:01 | |
and one shell... | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
I mean, it's just extraordinary, one shell from the Bismarck | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
hit the Hood, went down the funnel and went into the magazine. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
-Right. -And blew the whole ship up. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
And there were four survivors. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
Four survivors, so he obviously wasn't on that day, thank God. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
But that's the trip they did. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
There is HMS Hood, battle cruiser, big ship. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Eight 15 inch guns, nothing compared with the Bismarck, sadly, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:32 | |
but a big ship and an important ship. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
Then if we just flick through to here, here's one of the places. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
They went to New Zealand. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
There are some wonderful Maori pictures here. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
It was a sort of PR exercise, really, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
for Britain and the Royal Navy to go round the world. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
-It's a history of the world in one album, really. -That's right. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
And in super condition. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
Coming on to the medals, they're all General Service. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
-They're not medals for valour. -No. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
The nearest we've got to that is the long service medal, naval medal. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:12 | |
Beautiful medal. Beautifully produced. These are general service medals. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
The Atlantic, he obviously served in the Atlantic, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
and you got a medal if you served in the Atlantic. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
Served in Italy, the Italy Star | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
and that's the general '39, '45 star, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
and that is the General Service Medal, so they tell a story... | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
-A story. -Of somebody that was through the war. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
-Do you've any idea what it might be worth? -Not really, no. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
-I've no idea. -The medal here, the long service medal, is worth | 0:31:39 | 0:31:45 | |
£20, £30. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
These are worth a few pounds each, a few pounds for this. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
I think £50 to £100 would be a sensible valuation... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
-OK. -..with a reserve at the bottom end and I think there'll be sufficient interest hopefully | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
-to knock it up towards the top end. -OK, thank you. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
-Hello, Don. -Hello there. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
Now, I don't think we've had one of these on Flog It! before. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
This is a silver-castle-topped card case. Have you had it long? | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
I bought it very early '60s. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
-Oh, right. -I bought one piece of silver each month as savings, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:23 | |
and four years after I'd bought this, the dealer rang me up | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
and offered me four, five times what I'd paid for it. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
-Good Lord! -And I thought, "Oh, I've struck gold!" | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
and I slung it in the drawer and thought no more about it. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
-And what did you pay for it? -£96. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
Gosh. That was quite a lot of money back then, wasn't it, actually? | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
Well, it was. It was to us. You know, £96 was like a month's wages. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
-To a struggling farmer. -That's it, you've got it. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
Well, it's very interesting. I mean, these are quite well-known pieces. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
-I mean, they made a lot of them in the early Victorian period. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
And there are several makers of them and the value, it very much lies in the rarity of the subject. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
-Yes. -Well, I think this one actually is Winchester Cathedral. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:13 | |
-Oh, that's interesting. I did think it was Canterbury. -No, I don't... I don't think it's Canterbury. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:19 | |
-But... -Oh, that's interesting. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
You've got the best maker. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
This is made by Nathaniel Mills, who was a specialist maker of small silver objects | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
-in the early part of the 19th century and he was based in Birmingham. -Oh, Birmingham. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:34 | |
So, we've got, you know, the right maker, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
we've got an interesting item in the fact that it's Winchester | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
and the date letter is for 1843, so it's early Victorian. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
Oh, good. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
But we do have a slight problem. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
We have this sort of nasty dent in the back here. But that's not too bad. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
Somebody will be able to slip something in there. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
A good silversmith would push that one out. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
Yes, I would have thought so. So, to value. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
Ideally, I think, we would put something like 1,000 to 1,500 | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
on this, but you're a canny Welsh farmer, aren't you? | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
Well, struggle isn't the word these days. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
-So, you've forced me up. -I know. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
And we're going to agree to put a £1,200 to £1,500 estimate on it. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
-Well, there you go. -With a 1,200 reserve. -That sounds about right. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
-I think it's got a chance. -Yeah, yeah, well... Be nice. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
We'll see you at the auction and let's hope we're toasting your success. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
-Let's hope Mother Luck shines on us. -Absolutely. -That would be good. Thank you. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
Bronwyn, first of all, happy birthday to you! | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
-Thank you very much. -Celebrating you birthday with a trip to Flog It! -That's right, yes. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
-And then anything planned? -Lunch after. -Lunch. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
-Yes, with the family. -With the family. -Yes. -How many family members? -16. -16! | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
-Oh, crikey! We'd better get a move on, then! -Yes, please. -Have you ever worn this? | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
-No. -You don't like it, do you? -No, I don't. -I can tell. -No, I don't like it. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
-How long have you had it for? -Oh, I should think about 20 years now, but it was my aunt's. -Right. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
And when she died, it was given to me. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
Right. So, it's been sitting in a box somewhere, presumably? | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
-Yes, actually in the teapot, yeah. -Right. -Yes. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
-Do you know how old it is? -No idea. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
Right. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
It's first half of the 20th century. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
1920s, 1930s, I think. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
-Do you know where it comes from? -No, no, I know nothing at all about it. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Well, looking at all those stones | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
I think probably what is now Sri Lanka, what was Ceylon. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
-Oh, right, yes. -All these stones are | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
readily available there. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
From the left here - and forgive me if I forget, I'm not a gemmologist - | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
-but we have got a citrine. -Right. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-Then a garnet. -Yes. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
-Then a smoky quartz. -Oh, right. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
Then really a rather splendid sapphire, big, deep cut sapphire. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
They cut it quite deeply so as to draw as much colour as possible. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
-Oh, right. -Yeah. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
Then we've got a cabochon amethyst. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
By cabochon, not cut, it's rounded. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
It's in the form really of a bead. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
-Yes. -Amethyst. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:16 | |
Then we've got the zircon. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
-Right. -And then, although it's a slightly different colour, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
-we've got another garnet at the end. -Oh, right. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Garnets come in different shades of orangey red. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
So, it's a nice | 0:36:28 | 0:36:29 | |
collection of stones. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
It's set in silver. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
Sadly, not gold or platinum. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
-No. -So it's... | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
It's not as precious as it might be, so we can't attach much value to the actual bracelet itself. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
-Have you had it insured? -No. -No. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
No, I didn't think it was worth anything. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
-You didn't think it was worth anything. Did you think it was a bit of costume jewellery? -Yes. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
So, you thought that was worth £10, I suppose. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
-I didn't think it was worth anything at all. -Anything at all! -No. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
-So, it will come as a pleasant surprise to be told that it's worth £100 to £150. -Lovely, yes. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:04 | |
And I would suggest a discretionary reserve at the bottom end of the estimate. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:11 | |
-Right. -So, we'll put 100 to 150. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
If we have... Give the auctioneer a little bit of discretion, which means | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
basically if he gets bid perhaps £90 and that's the last bid, sell it. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
-Yes. -You're happy with that? -Yes, thank you very much. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
Well, we'll see if we can turn it into some serious birthday money. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
-Well, thank you. -Thank you, Bronwyn. -Lovely. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
Let me remind you who's off to auction and what items they're pinning their hopes on. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
Jean's nautical collection is rich in historical value. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
-It's a history of the world in one album, really. -That's right. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
But will it translate into cash? | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
Don has high hopes for the card case. Despite only costing £96, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
he's pushed Mark to a healthy £1,200 to £1,500 estimate. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:55 | |
And completing the trio is Bronwyn. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
Celebrating your birthday with a trip to Flog It! | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Will her bracelet bring happy tidings at the auction? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-Nice. -This is more like it. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
So, it's back to Cardiff where Ryan is raring to go. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
-Next up, Jean's photograph album of the warships and the medals. -That's right. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
Have you been looking forward to this? | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
-I have, very much so. -Got your lucky earrings on... | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
-I certainly have! -You told me earlier. -Yes. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
-You put £50 on this, but I'm hoping it'll double that. -It might do. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
-50 to 100 we'll say. -Yeah. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
You just no longer look at these and... | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
No, it's been in the wardrobe. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:33 | |
-You just might as well get rid of them. -Might as well get rid of them. -Yeah. -Yeah. -Well, look, good luck. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
-I hope so, anyway. -You look so smart. Thank you. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
From the Forest of Dean, look at this! | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
A group of World War II medals together with the book, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
the World Cruise Of British Special Service Squadron, lot 150. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
Good luck, Jean. This is it. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Commission bids. Start me at £50. 50 I have. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
-Oh, straight in! -Oh, yes. -60. Five. 70. Five. 80. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
Five. 90. Five. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
-95. -100. And 10. At 110. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
The gentleman standing at 110. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
Now at £110. Standing at 110. 120. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
130. 140. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
Oh, there's a bit of a fight on for it. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
At £150. The gentleman standing at 150, now. At £150. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Are we all out in the room at 150? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
-That's more like it. Yes! -I'm pleased. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
-£150. -That's good. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
That's brilliant, isn't it? | 0:39:23 | 0:39:24 | |
That's good, isn't it? | 0:39:24 | 0:39:25 | |
-The earrings... The earrings worked! -The earrings did it! -Didn't they? | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
We've heard this name on the show before now, Nathaniel Mills. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
He's a Birmingham silversmith, but we haven't seen his maker's mark | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
on something so exquisite before as this. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
It's a castle top card case and it belongs to Don, who's right here. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
-Well... -He's getting rather excited because you're not going to own this much longer. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
Well, it's a nice piece. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
We don't mind if it stays here or goes home with me, but... | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
This isn't going home with you! | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
-Well, we'll see. -This is going to fly out the sale room. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
-You paid how much this? -£96. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
OK. Well, we've got an estimate of £1,200 to £1,500 with a fixed reserve at £1,200 | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
because you don't want it to go for a penny less because you've been offered 1,000, haven't you? | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
That's correct. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
-Lot number 330 is an early Victorian... -Good luck. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
..silver castle top card case by Nathaniel Mills. Lot number 330. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
-Love it, love it, love it. -At £780 I have to start. £780. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
At £780. 800 is there anywhere? | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
800. And 20. 850. 880. 900. And 20. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
950. 980. 1,000. And 50. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
-At 1,050. Back with me at 1,050. -Oh! | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
-I don't think it's going to sell here. -At 1,050. At £1,050. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
Are we all done, then, at £1,050? | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
-It's not going. -No, I don't think it will. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
I shouldn't have opened my big mouth, should I? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
But, I tell you what, you protected it with a reserve of £1,200, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
so whatever I said it's not going to sell if the bidders aren't going to put their hand up. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:01 | |
-Well... -But I'm pleased. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:02 | |
Do you know that I'm pleased? Because it is worth more than £1,200. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
-Well... -I don't think the right people were here. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
No, I mean, to be honest, I think on the day we did have a big discussion about this and an ideal estimate | 0:41:07 | 0:41:12 | |
I think would have been 800 to 1,200. But, you know, if you like it so much, you've got to protect it. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:18 | |
-Yes. -Well, it's a very pretty piece. -Yes, it is. -Yeah. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
We're only a few lots away. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
Bronwyn's little Sri Lankan multi-gem bracelet. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
So, will we get the top end? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
-Middle end. -Middle. -125. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
Oh, really! OK! | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Let's find out, OK? Hopefully, we'll get the top end. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
-This is it. -Seven stone bracelet set with semiprecious stones here. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
£65 I have to start. £65. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
At £65. And 70 is there anywhere? | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
At 65. 70. Five. 80. Five. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
-The lady over there's bidding on this. -100. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
It takes me out at 100. At 110. 120. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
-130. 140. -Oh! | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
150. 160. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
-170. 180. -Nice. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
-This is more like it! -200. 210. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
220. 230. 240. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
250. 260. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
-270. 280. -Oh, they love it. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
290. 300. 310. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
320. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
330. 340. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
-Oh, crumbs! -350. 360. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
370. 380. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
-And were still going! -390. 400. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
At £400. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
With the lady at 400 now. At £400. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
-Oh, gosh! -£400. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
Bang, that hammer's gone down. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
-Wonderful. -£400! | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Shoot the valuer! | 0:42:45 | 0:42:46 | |
Well, I don't know, Charlie, it's a hard thing to put a price on. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
-Yeah, yeah. It was very pretty. -Gosh. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
But I didn't think it was £400 worth. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
No. I thought it was costume jewellery! | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
Gosh! There's commission to pay here. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
-Yes. -Deduct that. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
-Yes. -It's around 16%, plus the VAT, that's lots of spending money. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:06 | |
-It is lovely, isn't it? -Yeah. What are you going to do with it? | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
Well, my husband told me to buy some jewellery that I liked! | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
-Buy some jewellery you liked! -Yeah. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
Well, that's it. It's all over. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
Ryan's still up there weaving his magic, but all our owners have gone home happy. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
We've had a cracking day here, plenty of surprises, and I hope you've enjoyed today's show. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
So, from Cardiff, it's cheerio. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
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