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Today we're in the busiest passenger ferry port in the world. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
On average 16 million people a year pass through here. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Can you guess where we are? Of course you can. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
Today Flog It! comes from Dover in Kent. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Dover is well-known for many things, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
but perhaps most famously for its iconic white cliffs, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
and look at how magnificent they are, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
but it's also a magnet to swimmers who see that 21-mile short distance | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
to mainland France as a bit of a challenge. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
Later in the programme I'll be finding out why conquering | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
the English Channel has always lured journalists and swimmers alike. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
Well, it's nearly 9.30am | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
and it's time to get the Flog It! valuation day underway. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
Just look at this fabulous turnout! | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
Hundreds of people queuing up outside the Dover Town Hall | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
all waiting for that special valuation and if the price is right, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
what are you going to do? Flog It! | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
Yes! And the two experts responsible for putting the things through | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
to auction are Mark Stacey and Catherine Southon. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
Well, it's now 9.30am, so without further ado | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
let's get the doors open and get everybody inside. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
We're so lucky to be in such a stunning venue today in the historic | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
coastal port of Dover and it looks as though Catherine | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
has already found a maritime themed item. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
Helen, good to see you. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:45 | |
-Shall we have a little look what's in this box? -Yes. -Let's have a reveal. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
A nice little steamboat there. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
Powered by methylated spirits, is it? | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
-Yes. -Tell me how it works, what do you do? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Well, you lift the top... | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
..here and you put the methylated spirits in here. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Right, OK, yes. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
And then you fill up the boiler with water here. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
-So then the steam... -And the steam forces the propeller to go round, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:15 | |
it turns the propeller that way. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
-That's lovely. -Shall I put this back? -This is actually made by Hobbies | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
and I can see that you've got the original box. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
-Yes, but not the lid, sadly. -No, often the case. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
Tell me a little bit about it in terms of where you got it from. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
It belonged to my father and he was born in 1917 and he... | 0:02:30 | 0:02:36 | |
It came to me when I was, oh, a teenager I should think | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
and it's never been used since. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
-It's something your father obviously played with... -Yes. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
-Quite a lot. -Yes. I have had it in actually working, but not in water. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
-You never played with it? -No. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
Well, sadly, as you can probably tell, it has actually been repainted. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
Yes, that was typical father. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
Typical father. Naughty father, I think we should say. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
I don't know if you know, but this is actually fibreglass. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
-It's painted on fibreglass. -Right. -We have seen other models like | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
this where they've actually been painted on tin plate. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
Makers like Bing, Mark Linn, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
and they're obviously a lot more collectable, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
making big money. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
What is nice is that you've got the original box and obviously | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
-on here it's got stamped, on either end actually... -Yes. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
Hobbies, the maker, Bowman Steamboat, and then the model name, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
which is Swallow, so the boat is obviously called Swallow. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
I mean, it must be quite important to you as it belonged to your father. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Yes. I just feel that it would be nice if it was appreciated | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
-by somebody who collects model boats. -Yeah. -Or steam engines, even. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
I have known them to go for around the £100, £150 mark | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
if in their original condition. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Bearing in mind it has been repainted, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
it has got the box but without the lid, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-I think we should probably pitch it around £60 to £80 mark. -Right. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
-Are you happy with that? -Yes. -Maybe with a £50 reserve. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
-OK. -Thank you very much. I'll see you at the auction! | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
-Hello, Pauline. -Hello. -How nice to meet you here in Dover. -And you. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
-You're looking very cool in blue. -Oh, thank you very much. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
Now, tell me, why have you got this item? | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Well, it belonged to my father. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
He got it from an antique shop, I think, somewhere along the line, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:28 | |
and then when I was about 16 I said to mum, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
"I do like that horn, will you leave it to me in your will?" | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Which you do when you're young, you know? So, that's what she did. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
When she died she left that to me. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
Oh, wonderful. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
And in your family, I mean, do you have a Scottish connection? | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
-Yes, my father. -Your father was Scottish? | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
-Yeah, he was. -Ah, that's why he bought it, then. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
-It meant something to him. -Yes. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Because whenever you see an item like this | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
you always know they're Scottish. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
-They're known as Scottish snuff moulds. -Right. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
They're made from the end of ram's horns or deer horns or whatever. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
Sometimes you can get big table ones, which are deer horn. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
This one is particularly nice because it is silver mounted, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
there's no hallmarks, but I have every confidence | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
-that those are silver mounts on there. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
-And we have a little family crest there. -Oh, is that a family crest? | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
We have a name here. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
James Robertson, Inverness. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
So that confirms its Scottish pedigree, if you like. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
-That's right. -The other nice thing we've found is a Latin inscription | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
-which means glory is the reward of valour. -Fine, yes. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
But I found out that the Robertson clan | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
are the oldest clan in Scotland. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
-Really? -And they also descend, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
I think, from the old Norse rulers of Scotland, the kings of the Norse, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:53 | |
-Vikings who came over and conquered Scotland. -That's interesting. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Or they married into them. And you've had it obviously a few years. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
Yes, I've had it a few years. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:02 | |
And why have you decided to sell it with us today? | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
I'll tell you the truth, now. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
I was going to leave it to my daughter and her husband said, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
"Oh, well, when you've gone we'll sell it" | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
and I would like them to have kept it. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
And I thought, well, no, I'm not going to have that, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
so I will sell it myself. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
Well, it's your item. I've every confidence the auction house | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
will do as much marketing as possible and I suspect we'll get some | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
Robertson from America, from Scotland, from all over, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
who are interested in getting part of their family history back. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
It'll be a double good thing for you. Hopefully get a bit more money. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
-Yeah. -And you'll be reuniting an item that's been lost from | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
-the Robertson family, which will be good. -Yeah. -I would like to put | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
-an estimate of £200 to £300 on it. -OK. -With a 200 reserve. -Yeah. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-Our little Scottish piece of history will do us proud, I'm sure. -Yeah. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
What a lovely three quarter length portrait, Reg. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
Do you know who she is? | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
-Lady Dover. -So how did you come by this portrait? | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
This was left to me about five years ago. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-And you've got some paperwork, I believe. -Yes, indeed. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Can I have a quick look? By John Jackson, was the original artist. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
He died in 1831. This is a copy, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
but it's a beautiful copy. It's a period copy. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
The original hangs in the British Museum, but this is done | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
by George Dodson Tomlinson, a Victorian artist who died in 1884, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
so he was flourishing around the mid-1800s. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
He's exhibited at the Royal Academy, which is great news for you. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
-Good. -Because it gives the artist a little provenance, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
so a lot of weight behind him, which pushes the price up at auction. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
We even know who this is. It's a lady called Georgina, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
the daughter of the Sixth Earl of Carlisle, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
so this is the first Lady Dover. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
-Yes, and possibly the only one. -Possibly the only one. In 1831. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
Well, I absolutely love it. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
The frame is letting it down at the moment because it's been painted | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
so many times with obviously coats of emulsion or something like that, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
but that's its contemporary frame. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
The frame's perfect for this picture and I can see it... | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
I can see it is, you know? This has not been cut down and fiddled with. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
I have a feeling this has been hanging in a smoker's home. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-That nicotine stain. -It has, yes. -Isn't it? -It is. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
Look at this, if you just go like that... | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
..you can tell it's the nicotine. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
It needs a good clean, a professional should tackle that. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
-Do you like the portrait? -Not really, no. -Why is that? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
I find her a bit frightening. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:32 | |
-It's the eyes. -That's the sign of a good painter, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
there's quality in those eyes, and the lips are beautiful. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
They're so full. The skin tones are great. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-What sort of money had you in mind? -I've no idea of the value. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-No idea? -No. -And why do you want to sell this now? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-Because I'm moving to a flat. -Are you? That won't work in a flat, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
will it, with a low ceiling? It'd look a bit OTT. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
It really needs a big room. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
That is a big picture. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
If you're happy, I think we can put this into auction | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
-with a value of around about £400 to £600. -Right. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
With a discretion on the 400, a 10% auctioneer's discretion. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Right, fine. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
-Peter, welcome to Flog It! -Thank you. -Thank you for coming along. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
I do like a little object in a little case. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
Shall we just have a little open up here? | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
We've got a lovely pocket aneroid barometer. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Tell me about this, where did you get it from? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
It was from my father-in-law. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
-He's an... Well, he was an avid boot fair collector. -Oh, really? Right. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
And he collected lots of bits and pieces and when he died | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
we sorted out and that's what we found in amongst | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-other bits and pieces, so... -Do you know if it's working? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
No, I don't know, no. I don't know anything about it at all, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
so I thought perhaps you might be able to enlighten me a bit on it. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
OK. Well, date wise we'd probably be looking at about turn of the century, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
so probably about circa 1900. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
We can see here the name Army & Navy, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
so it would have been actually sold in the Army & Navy stores. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
I love this little red Morocco leather case that it's contained in. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:11 | |
Nice green velvet inside here. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
This is something that gentleman would have had. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
He would have taken it with him in his pocket. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
Unfortunately, we've got a bit of wear here. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
It looks like the leather, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
-the red leather here has actually been lifted off. -Yeah. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
-Has it always been like that? -Yes. -As far as you know? -Yes, yes. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
It's quite a nice little instrument, Peter, it's a shame | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
there's no signature on the dial. That would certainly | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
beef up the estimate a bit, but have you ever had it working? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
-No, we haven't, no. -Do you know how to get it working? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
-No. -One of the tricks of the trade, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
what you can do is put it in like a polythene bag, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
blow up the bag and then, obviously, you've got the | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
air inside it and hopefully you should see the needle move. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
See if it works before the auction. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
-That will be quite interesting to see. -Yeah. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
You do see quite a lot of them coming up at auction, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
so they're not... They don't have great value. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-They're probably going to be worth in the region of about £60 to £80. -Yeah. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Is that a bit disappointing to you, or are you happy to sell at that? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
Yeah, I... I will sell at that. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
Yeah, I mean, because I hadn't got a clue what it's worth, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
-so it's not a disappointment. -Let's put a reserve on of £50 | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
and that should easily make that. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
How does that sound? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
-Fine, yeah. -Happy with that? -Yes. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:26 | |
Well, let's go for that and hope that it makes a bit more. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
We've found some quirky items and now we're heading north into the heart of Kent for today's auction. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:36 | |
I can feel tension building all over the place, an air of excitement. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
Today we're at the Canterbury Auction Galleries. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Cliona Kilroy is just about to take to the rostrum, today's auctioneer. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
As you can see, we've got a packed house. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
Let's hope this lot are going to bid on all our items. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
And in case you've forgotten what's going under the hammer, here's a quick recap. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
I thought Reg's late 19th century portrait of Lady Dover was in | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
remarkable condition, although the frame could do with a good clean! | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
Reg is keen to get rid of it though, as it's too big for his flat. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
Pauline has been in love with her Robertson clan Scottish snuff horn | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
since she was a wee lass. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
Mark thinks it may raise a lot of interest. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
I suspect we'll get some Robertson from America and from Scotland... | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
-Really. -And from all over | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
who are interested in getting part of their family history back. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
It's now time for Peter to sell his Army & Navy Store barometer | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
in a red leather case which he got from his father-in-law. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
Finally, Helen hopes an enthusiastic collector | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
will sail away with her inherited Hobbies Bowman steamboat. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
But will the botched paint job put the bidders off? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
It's time to find out as it's the first of our items | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
to go under the hammer. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
I'm a big fan of this next lot. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
I've just been joined by Helen, the owner. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
Boys and their toys. I think this little steamboat is incredible. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
It works on methylated spirits. It's got the look of an early launch | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
and it's known as the Swallow, in original box. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
-Yes. -Fingers crossed, OK? -Definitely, fingers crossed. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Yeah. Here we go. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
333 is the early 20th century | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
Hobbies Bowmen steamboat, the Swallow. Lot 333. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
-Lots of commission interest. -Some interest in this. We'll start at... | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
-We'll start at 130. -Starting at £130. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
-Yes! -I'm looking for 140. Any interest at 140? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
On my left at £130 now. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
-Any interest at 140? -Yes. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
140. 150. 160. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-Yes. -170. Anybody at 170? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
It's online at £160. Are we all done? Any further interest? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
If not I'm selling at £160 online. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-Told you! -Fantastic! -Excellent. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
-You didn't have any faith. -I didn't. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
-Well done. -Well done, you. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
Thanks. It was a nice thing. It's a real gentleman's piece and I... I... | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
I was looking at that earlier and I saw so many people looking at it | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
as well and it brought back so many memories for them. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Everybody buys into that. There's commission to pay. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
-Of course, yes. -But I think you can treat yourself with that. -Yes. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
This is a cracking lot. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
I've just been joined by Pauline and we're about to put | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
the Scottish snuff horn under the hammer from Robertson's clan. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
-That's right. -Good luck, but I think this one is going back to Scotland. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
That's lovely. Yeah, it's nice to know, you know? | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Lot number 287 is the 19th century | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
Scottish silvery metal mounted horn, snuff mould, lot 287. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-Who'll start me at £100? -Yeah. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
-100 I am bid. Who's in at 110? 110 for someone? -Come on. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
110 I have. 120. 130. 140. 150. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
160. 170. 180. 190. 200. And 10. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:40 | |
The bid is on my left. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
It's gone, 210. Within estimate. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
What are you going to put the money towards? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
-I want a new carpet. -Do you? -So it will go to that. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
Yeah, I'd love a new carpet. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
-Thank you so much for bringing it in. -That's quite all right. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
So far so good. Temperatures are rising, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
which brings us nicely to our next lot, this little pocket barometer | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
belonging to Peter and we've got the valuation of £60 to £80. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-Now, your father-in-law found this at a car boot. -He did, yeah. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
-How much do you think he paid for it? -I haven't a clue. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Unfortunately, he's not with us now, so I'll never know. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Probably a lot less than what we're hoping to get today | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
I think, Catherine, don't you? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
Yeah, they always used to get 80 to 120, but I think nowadays they've | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
gone down a little bit, so hopefully we should get between 60 and 80. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
-Case is nice. -Absolutely. -It's ready to go. -It's in good condition. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
Lot number 318 is the late 19th early 20th century | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
gilt brass case pocket aneroid barometer | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
by the Army & Navy Stores, lot 318. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
-Who'll start me at £50? -Yes. -50 I'm bid. Who's in at 60? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
It's on my left at £50, now. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
-Well, we've sold it. -Who's in at £60? 60. 70? | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
-No. -Anybody at 70? Right at the back of the room at £60 now. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
Any further offer? The bid is right at the back at £60. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
And selling at £60. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
-Spot on valuation. -Yes, spot on. -£60. Happy with that? | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
-That's fine. -There is commission to pay, unfortunately. -Yeah. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
That's going to take a swipe out of it, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
-but it's a meal out or something. -It's an experience. -Yes. -Fantastic. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
OK, for all you fine art lovers | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
it's now time to find out exactly what Lady Dover is worth. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
I've been joined by Reg. This is my valuation. We had four to six on it. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
The auctioneer thinks it could do a little better, so fingers crossed. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
We always like a little more, don't we? Should be a lot of | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
local interest and that's what it's all about. This is it. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
Lot number 75, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
attributed to George Dodson Tomlinson after John Jackson's. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
The oil painting, the half length portrait of Lady Dover. Lot 75. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
Two bids, one at 500. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
We're going to start at £500 and I'm looking for 520. The bid is... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
The commission bid of £500. I'm looking for 520. 520. 540. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
560. 580. 600. And 20. 640. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
640? 660. 680? | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
Brilliant. Come on, a bit more. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
680. 700. And 20? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
Anybody at 720? On my left at £700 now. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Any further offer? If not I'm selling at £700 if we're all done. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
-Fantastic. -Brilliant! And what are you going to do with that? | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Towards the next holiday. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
-Where are you going? -Gran Canaria. -Good for you. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-He's retired, you deserve it. -That's it. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
-Thanks for bringing that in. -Thank you. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
And coming up later, Catherine finds an antique pot | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
which has performed some interesting functions. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
-I think I've been sick on it. -Oh! | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
-In it. -Oh! I don't know if I want to touch it! In it? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
I've come back to Dover today to find out a bit more about | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
one of the hardest physical challenges in the world | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
and it's something every serious long distance swimmer | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
would love to conquer. Can you guess what it is? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
Well, you probably can by my location here today. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
I'm talking about swimming the English Channel. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
The Channel is 21 miles across at its shortest distance and the | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
starting point is over in that direction at Shakespeare's Cliff | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
and, of course, it finishes over there at Cap Gris Nez, in France. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
The intrepid challengers have to deal with swimming | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
in hypothermic-inducing water which is around 14 to 18 degrees Celsius. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
They've also got to swim through one of the busiest shipping lanes | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
in the world avoiding all the floating debris. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
And then they've got to battle against tides and currents, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
which change every six hours. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:05 | |
On top of that, they've got to deal with getting stung by jellyfish, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
getting cramp and also swimming through floating fields of seaweed, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
so you can see it's not for the fainthearted. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
This is a serious challenge. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
People have died doing this. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Some, well, have conquered. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
Those include sort of seasoned swimmers and, of course, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
just ordinary people giving it a go. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
It all started on 24 August 1875, when Captain Matthew Webb | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
dived in from the Admiralty Pier in Dover and swam across the Channel. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
21 hours and 45 minutes later he came ashore near Calais, in France. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
After his historic swim, Webb became a national hero. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
Many people assume that Captain Webb's success was a fluke | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
and could not be repeated and though hundreds of people attempted to swim | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
and many British newspapers offered sponsorships and a £1,000 reward, | 0:19:54 | 0:20:00 | |
it took 36 years before the Channel was conquered again. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
This time it was a man called Thomas W Burgess who succeeded in 1911 | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
on his 13th attempt. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
He was a Yorkshire man who was actually living in Paris at the time | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
and he worked in the motor tyre business. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
He was 37 when he swam the channel | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
and was famed for wearing motorist's goggles. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
It took him 22 hours and 35 minutes to get across to France. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
After Burgess had successfully followed Webb | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
and shown it was indeed possible many more attempts were undertaken. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
New records were made and broken, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
such as the first woman to swim the Channel, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
who was Gertrude Ederle in 1926 and who Burgess helped train. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
In the early 20th century the men and women who completed | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
the challenge became instant stars and large crowds gathered | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
to greet the returning heroes. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
World War II stopped Channel swimming attempts, but following | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
the end of the war the 1950s saw the real heyday of Channel swimming | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
with a great surge in its popularity. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
Races were organised and once again British newspapers offered rewards, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
alongside holiday camp magnet, Billy Butlin. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
Many of the successful challengers have had their photograph taken here | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
on the seafront at Dover right next to Captain Webb's memorial. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Sadly, the swimmers today don't make a splash they once did. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
You know, there's not thousands of people lined up along the seafront | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
to congratulate them and welcome them home because that really | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
is a tough challenge, possibly because more people are succeeding. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
We're a lot more savvy about nutrition, diet | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
and putting in the right training regime. But, I'll tell you what, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
having a lot of knowledge doesn't make this any easier. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
It's far from it. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Today I'm lucky enough to be meeting two people who are experts | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
on all things Channel swimming. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
They are Freda Streeter and Michelle Toptalo. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
Freda is known lovingly as the General Of The Channel | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
as she helps hopefuls train and prepare for the challenge. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
Michelle is a local to Dover | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
who had recently swum the channel for the first time. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Freda, great to meet up with you today. Hi, Michelle. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Thank you for joining us as well. What perfect weather. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
-It's beautiful -Yeah, we're blessed. -It really is the perfect day. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
How long do the training sessions last? Are they here weeks on end? | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Weeks on end. We start in May, we finish at the end of September | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
and we build them up and build them up until six, seven, eight, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
even 10 hour swims in the harbour here. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
Just to make sure, we give them back-to-back swims | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
so that they do sort of seven one day, six another, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
which is possibly the equivalent of the Channel. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
They just had a night's rest in between, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
but mentally then it helps them tremendously. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
What are the rules? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
-One swimming costume, one hat, one pair of goggles. -That's it? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
And you do not touch the boat. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
Michelle, you've actually swum the Channel. What is it about it? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Why did you want to do that? | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
For me, I grew up in Dover. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-Right. -I've always seen that piece of water. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
I've always been intrigued by the fact | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
that you can see the weather in a different country. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
-Yeah. -I've always swum and I think I always knew one day I'd try it. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
It's the lure of the Channel. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
It just seems to get into people's blood and people do come back | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
time after time after time. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
What did it feel like when you got to the other side? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
-The best feeling in the world. It's... -Did you kiss the beach? | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
Did you sort of crawl up it and go, "I've done it" and pass out? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
Everybody has a different experience. For some, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
it's just sheer relief. For me, I just looked round, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
looked at that boat and just... | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
I couldn't believe I'd... | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
You know, it had been a long day. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
I mean, I was so lucky, the conditions were perfect, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
my crew were perfect and I just couldn't... | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
I just couldn't believe I'd just achieved that. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
What makes a good Channel swimmer? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
I think it is about determination. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
-Yeah. -You know... -It's all up here, do you think? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
I mean, you have... everybody has their battles. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
We've had some really surprising people here... You watch them swim | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
and you think they're never going to swim the Channel, you know, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
but their determination... They do. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
90%... I say it's 90% mental and 10% physical out there. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
It is. You negotiate with yourself. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
I remember thinking to myself out there, there's people that believe | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
-I can do this. -Yeah. -If you don't do this today than every time | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
you didn't go training it was the wrong decision. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
They're the kind of battles you have out there. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
-Is it expensive to do this? -Very. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
Very expensive, yes. It's the pilot boat which costs the money. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
How much does that cost? | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
About 2,100. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
-Does it? -Yeah. Because that is the biggest shipping lane in the world. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Obviously the pilot boat is essential, isn't it? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Absolutely. The only person that's tried to cross this without | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
-a pilot boat was found in Belgium about a fortnight later. -Right. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:49 | |
There is no way that you can do this swim without a pilot boat. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
This is like a hedgehog trying to cross the M1. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
Did you come across any super tankers crossing your path? | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
-Nothing came that close to me. -You were lucky. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
I've been on swims where we've had some very close encounters, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
but for me, I could see ferries and things in the distance. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
Is this something you can recommend? | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
-Absolutely. -To all the viewers watching, to have a go? | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
The torment you go through in here, and it is torture. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
For me this was more torture than the actual day. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Entering the water in May is no mean feat | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
and I've got so much respect for anybody that gets that far. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
And the boss here makes sure everybody toes the line? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
They'd be foolish to argue with her | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
because she knows what she's talking about. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Tell me about the greasing up? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
-The greasing up I think is probably over advertised. -Really? | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
For me it was just in the areas that my swimming costume would chafe. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
-Yeah. -This idea that you need to cover your body is... | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
-I think it's a myth. -So, what do you eat? Can you eat? | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
What we use is a very, very high carbohydrate powder | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
mixed into a drink that they can | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
literally swallow in three, four seconds, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
that's the equivalent of two jacket potatoes, big jacket potatoes, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
and it just goes straight through, gives them energy and we're off. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
-And that's it? -That's it. Well, they do have the occasional treat | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
-if they get grumpy... -Do you? -A mini roll or something like that. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
Once you've been in a while you can't really taste anything anyway. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
-No. -Just salt! -You know, your tongue goes, goes salty. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Right, now it's time for me to give it a go. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
So, here we go... But, do you know what? I could never do that. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
I wouldn't even make it to the harbour walls, but fair play | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
to all the people that have done it, they're champions, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
and to all the people that have tried and attempted it but failed, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
they're still winners, as well. It's all about trying. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
What a brilliant day. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Welcome back to a busy valuation day here at the Town Hall in Dover. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
It's still jam-packed full of people all hoping | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
to go off to the auction room. It's now down to our experts | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
to find those remaining items, so let's catch up with them. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Yvonne, what a charming little figure you've brought in. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
-Thank you. -Tell me, where did you get it? | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
It belonged to my mother-in-law. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
She passed away some 22 years ago. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
My father-in-law wasn't very keen on it and he asked us | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
if we would like it and to take it away, so we did and we've had it | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
for a number of years, but now it's... You know, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
we've moved into a little tiny small bungalow and it's beautiful and | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
-I've just got nowhere to put her. -Nowhere to put her? -No. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
You know what it is, of course? It's a Meissen figure. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
-Yes. From the latter part of the 19th century. -Oh, right. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
It's very reminiscent of the sort of 18th century Meissen figures. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
You've got this sleeping beauty, here, who's taken her shoes off | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
-and decided to have a little nap. -Right. -But if you look closely | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
she's wearing this really nice floral dress and then just tucked in | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
to the dress, here, there's a little letter which looks like it's got | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
a little red seal mark on it, so it's a little love letter. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
-Ah! -And what we don't know, of course, is whether | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
she's tucked it in there and then fallen asleep contented that | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
her beau is in love with her, or of course he's tucked it in there when | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
she's fallen asleep and then left her to wake up and find the letter. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
So it's a little bit of a mystery. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
It's a little bit of a mystery, but Victorians liked that, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
these little sort of sentimental touches. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
She's obviously quite an elegant lady, but then she's got | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
this rustic furniture around her. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
-Yes. -They liked that sort of rustic style, as well. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
Looking underneath, we've got the crossed swords mark of Meissen. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
We've got some numbers as well which refer to shape and pattern numbers, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
-Very nice. We do have a small chip there, see? -Yes, I noticed. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
Which unfortunately affects the value a little bit. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
-There's the odd chip here and there, always the case with Meissen. -Right. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
But I think because it's such a nice sentimental subject, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
and if you look at the detail, which I think it is worth pointing out, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
of the little bow in her hair here. The little earring she's wearing. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
The modelling of her ears, the modelling of her face. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
Yes, it's beautiful. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
The modelling of her little pearl and lace necklace, there. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
-I mean, everything screams quality about it. -Yes. -But in a very sort | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
of "sugar sweet" sort of way, I suppose, which is not | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
-terribly fashionable these days. -No. -Now we want big, bold statement, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
-decorative pieces, not these sort of... -Delicate. -Rather feminine... | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Feminine, delicate porcelain objects. Of course, it does have a value. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:37 | |
-Right. -You've had it for a long time. Have you thought of the value? | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
No. We have absolutely no idea. It's only since your programmes | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
have been on, etcetera, that we suddenly thought | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
-well, perhaps it has got some value. -Yes, well, I think it does. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:52 | |
I still think there will be Meissen collectors, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
even though there's a slight bit of damage, I would have thought | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
maybe 200 to 300, with 150 reserve. Would you be happy with that? | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
-Yes, yes. I think 200 to 300 would be lovely. -And who knows? | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
Some other person might fall in love with it at the auction. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
They could well do, couldn't they? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
And what would you do if we got a good price for you? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Well, we'd like to go back to Italy. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
We holiday in Italy quite a lot. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
-Well, it's a good cause. -Yes. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
Well, I can't wait until the auction and you'll fly up from Dover... | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
-Absolutely. -To Canterbury. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
Lorraine, I am so excited about this Minton jardiniere. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
-Where did you get it from? -It was my great-grandmother's. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Right, OK. And where did your grandmother... | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
-Great-grandmother get it from? -I don't know. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
-It's been in your family the whole time, been passed through? -Yes. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
I'm so excited because I do collect Minton Viennese Secessionist Ware | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
and this is just so beautiful. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
I mean, I pounced on you in the queue because I saw it and I just thought | 0:30:59 | 0:31:05 | |
those colours are absolutely fabulous. They're so vibrant. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
-Yeah. -And it's got this wonderful tube lining, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
this very typical pattern that you find in the Minton Secessionist Ware. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
Do you know anything about Minton Secessionist? | 0:31:17 | 0:31:22 | |
-No. -Well, the designers were John Wadsworth and Leon Solon. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
They started really towards the late 19th century and it was | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
all finished pretty much by 1905. They worked in partnership together, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:34 | |
Taking their inspiration from Viennese Secessionist Ware, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
Art Nouveau, so you can see lots of sort of influences from nature | 0:31:38 | 0:31:44 | |
and we see these quite sort of stylised flowers and plants. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
It's quite a simple design, but it's just so very beautiful. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
Are you not... You don't seem very... I'm so excited about it | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
because it's the best thing that I've seen all day. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
I do like it, but my partner doesn't like it, so he won't want it... | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
What doesn't he like about it? | 0:32:03 | 0:32:04 | |
He likes modern things, so he won't let us have it | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
-in our new conservatory. -It is still very modern, I think. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
-Especially the colours. -He has come round about the colour. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
-But, no, I'd rather... -You want to get rid of it. -Give my mum the money. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
So, have you had this in your home for some time? | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
I've had it about six months in my home. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
Before that my mum had it in her home as long as I can remember. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
Right, OK. Pride of place I hope? | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
No. My grandmother had a Christmas tree in it, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
my mother's had newspapers and sweet wrappers | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
-and I think she had an aspidistra in it at one time. -That's dreadful! | 0:32:37 | 0:32:43 | |
Then she put it in the bedroom and it got forgotten about, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
and then she gave to me about six months ago rather than use it | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
as a rubbish bin and I think I've been sick on it. In it. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
I don't know if I want to touch it. In it! Oh, God! | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
Once upon a time it would have been... I mean, it's a jardiniere, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
-so it probably would have had a stand. -Yeah. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
Does anyone in your family have any recollection of the stand at all? | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
No, no. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
As a piece this is really, I think, quite special. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
Do you have any idea of how much it's worth at auction? | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
Well, I only thought around 50, 80 quid. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:23 | |
I'll give you 50 quid! | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
I'll take it from you straightaway. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
I think that it's worth around £300 to £500. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
-Wow! -With a 250 reserve, is that OK? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
-Yeah. -You're smiling. -Yeah, lovely. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
-Hopefully, smiling all the way to the bank. -Yeah, thank you. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
-Hello, Nina. -Hello. Very nice to meet you. -And you, as well. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
Now, you've brought a really, really interesting piece along. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
Tell me, how has it remained in this condition? | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
Because it's just been away in a drawer somewhere | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
for all its life, I should imagine. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
-And do you know how it came into your possession? -I've no idea. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
I probably first saw it when I was a teenager, about 60 years ago, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
and I'm sure my mother took it out and showed it to me and then it got | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
put back and put away and whenever we did a spring clean it came out | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
again and we had a look at it and that's what's happened to. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
-I think it's in pretty good condition actually for its age. -Yes, yes. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
What we've actually got here is a little... | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
What looks like a little book, but it isn't, it's a sort of diorama, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:29 | |
and it's called | 0:34:29 | 0:34:30 | |
Lane's Telescopic View Of The Ceremony Of Her Majesty's | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
Opening The Great Exhibition, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
-of course, in Crystal Palace in 1851. -Absolutely. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:44 | |
-And it's by the printers down here, Lane & Stanhope. -Yes. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
Stanhope actually went on to develop those little miniature things | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
you brought from Brighton Rock and things like that were you could | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
-look in and see the piers. -Ah. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
But what I found charming about this is it's such a simple little | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
piece of equipment and it's been around for 158 years. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
And you open it up like this and it's so simple to modern standards | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
when we look at the internet and the games we play, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
and you just take a little look through the hole there | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
and you can see right the way and you have a whole sort of panoramic view | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
of the Crystal Palace exhibition. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
-Absolutely. -Imagine as a child in 1851 that being brought home | 0:35:21 | 0:35:27 | |
-and the wonder of it, it must have been fantastic. -Absolutely. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
If you couldn't go yourself you could have a little look through there. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
Because you can't appreciate the pretty colours inside | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
from the front of it, which has faded. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
And when you look inside all those colours have been protected, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
-so they're much brighter. -Yes. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
-It's been in a cupboard for many years. -Yes. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
And I think it's time to let somebody else appreciate it and enjoy it, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
-isn't it? -Yes, yes. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
Value, any ideas? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
-£500. -Think again. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
I'm going up then, £700! | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
-Well, I'm going down. -I know! -I think if we're sensible about it | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
-We should maybe think around £200 to £300. -Yes. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
With a 200 reserve, because we must protect it with a reserve. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
-Absolutely. -Well, Nina, I really hope we get a lot of money for it | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
because it's one of my favourite items I've seen today. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
I think it's a really exciting piece. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
If we do, what would you put the money towards? | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
I'd use it to go on my travels. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
I've seen quite a lot of the world, but I haven't been | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
to Australia and New Zealand yet. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
-Well, I hope we get you part of the way. -Thank you very much indeed. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
It's now time for our final trip to the auction | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
where we'll find out if Yvonne will be making it to Italy | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
on the proceeds of her Meissen sleeping beauty figure. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
Although Catherine was crazy about | 0:36:45 | 0:36:46 | |
the Minton Secessionist Ware jardiniere, there was no love lost | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
for owner Lorraine or her family, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:51 | |
although it had been put to good use over the years. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
My grandmother had a Christmas tree in it, my mother's had newspapers | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
and sweet wrappers and then she gave it to me about six months ago. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
And, finally, Nina's stunning diorama of the Grand Exhibition | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
is now in the spotlight. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
I think this is absolutely remarkable, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
but before we see it sell, I caught up with auctioneer Cliona Kilroy | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
to see if she shares my enthusiasm. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
-This is a bit different, you don't see many of these. -No. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
-And the condition is very good considering it's 1851. -Yeah. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
-Crystal Palace. A lovely diorama. -Yeah. -It belongs to Nina. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
I think it's just an amazing piece of history | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
and a small token from the Great Exhibition. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
It's only made of paper and fabric. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
The intention to preserve it probably wasn't there, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
but it has remained intact incredibly well | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
-and the colours are amazing when you look through it. -Yes. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
It must have been so exciting to have something like that | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
in the Victorian period, especially for a young child, it's great. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
Just to look through the hole and go, wow, look at that. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
It brings it all to life. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
If you couldn't go there, that was as good as back then. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
You got this wonderful three dimensional diorama | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
showing it all off. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
I just think it's a great little thing, a souvenir from it. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
We've put £200 to £300 on this. Do you think it could get any more? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
I think it's really interesting and the fact that it has... | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
The condition is very much in its favour. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
The front and back is a little scuffed, but generally it's in | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
really good order, so I think so, yeah. I would hope so. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
We have seen other Victorian dioramas on the show, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
slightly more squat, but slightly longer in perspective | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
and they've reached a little more than that, so I'm hoping | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
-good things for this one. -Good. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
Before we see if Nina's diorama is a hit with the bidders, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
it's time to find out how Lorraine's Minton jardiniere fares. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
Good luck, it's just about to go under the hammer. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
I'm talking about Lorraine's sick bowl! | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
She said it! We're talking about that wonderful Minton. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
Hello, mum, by the way. What's your name? | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
-Margaret. -This is yours really, isn't it? -Yes. -Fingers crossed. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
-What do you think, Catherine? -£300 to £500. I think it should | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
-do quite well, actually. -Well, let's see what this packed | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
auction room thinks. It's going under the hammer now. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Lot number 35 is the early | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
20th century Minton Secessionist pottery jardiniere, lot 35. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
Who'll start me at £200? Lot 35. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
£200 I'm looking for. Any interest at £200? | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Come on, come on, come on! | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
Any interest at 200? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:19 | |
Thank you. 200 I'm bid. 210? 210. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
220. 230. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
240. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
-It's a bit slow. -250. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
260. 270. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah, we sold it. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
280. 290. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
300. 320. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:41 | |
340. 360. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
380. 400. 420. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
-That's good. -440. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
460? | 0:39:51 | 0:39:52 | |
Anybody at 460? | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
It's at £440 on the telephone now. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
Any further offer? If not, I'm selling at £440 if we're all done. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
Yes! Well done. Thank you so much | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
for putting a smile on our faces, that was a funny story. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
I really loved that story, fantastic. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
Well, thank you very much. I thoroughly enjoyed it. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
I've been joined by Nina today and Mark, our expert. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
This is absolutely stunning, the little diorama of Crystal Palace, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
-the Great Exhibition. Yeah. -In great condition. -This is it. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
308 is the Lane's Telescopic View Of The Ceremony Of Her Majesty | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
Opening The Great Exhibition in 1851. Unusual item. Lot 308. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
Who'll start me at £100? £100? Any interest at £100? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
100 I'm bid. Who's in at 110? 110. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
-120? -Yes. -130. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
-140. -Yeah. -150. 160. -Yeah. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
170. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
180? | 0:40:53 | 0:40:54 | |
-No. -Anybody at 180? 180. 190? | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
190? Anybody at 190? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
190. 200? 200 anywhere? | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
The bid is at £190, then. Pass at 190. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
Oh, Nina. We just missed it by... | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
-One bid. -Yeah. One bid. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
-Never mind. -Sorry about that. -It lives to sell another day. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
-Absolutely. -Will you do that? -Yes. -Another auction room, another day. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Absolutely. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
So close! That was very disappointing. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
But can we do any better with the Meissen figure? | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
Right now Meissen figure is just about to go under the hammer, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
could it be our little sleeper? I'm joined by Yvonne | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
and we've got £200 to £300 on this and it is the sleeping beauty? | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
-It is, it certainly is. -This figure is so evocative. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
You've got the young lady sleeping, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
-the little letter tucked into her cleavage. -I know. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Now, is that a letter from a lover or is it just a shopping list? | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
We don't know, but it's in a safe place! | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
Anyway, let's see what the bidders think, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
it's just about to go under the hammer. Here we go. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
Lot number four is the Meissen porcelain figure | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
of the young woman in 18th century dress, lot number four. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
We have four bids and we're starting at £400. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
-Starting at 400! -420? Any interest at 420? | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
The bid is on my left at £400 now and I'm looking for 420. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
420. 440. 460. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
480. 500. And 20. 540. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
540 with anybody? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
540. 560. 580. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
-580, sir? 600? Anybody at 600? -Yes. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
600. And 20. 640. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
660. 680. On the 'net, no? The bid is with Chris at £660. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:35 | |
-That's very good. -Please! -£660. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
-Hammer's gone down, Yvonne. -Wonderful! -£660. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
-Thank you so much, Mark. -We're happy with that? | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
-Very happy. -The buyers were definitely here today. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
-Absolutely. Thank you very, very much. -Enjoy that holiday, won't you? | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
Oh, absolutely. Lake Garda here I come! | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
It's all over and what a fantastic day we've had here in Kent. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
All credit to our experts, they were on the money today | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
and it's not easy because it's not an exact science. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
I hope you've enjoyed watching the programme. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
We enjoyed being here. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
So, until the next time, it's cheerio. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
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