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Paul Martin is joined by experts Mark Stacey and Adam Partridge in the university city of Bangor, north Wales. Mark finds a silver purse and Adam values a French violin.


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Today we're in one of the smallest cities in Britain,

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but it's said to have the longest High Street in Wales.

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Its pier, Garth Pier is 1,500 ft long and it's Wales's second largest pier.

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Where are we? Well, we're in North Wales in the small, but perfectly formed city of Bangor.

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Well, for such a small city, I'm delighted to see such a large

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crowd gathering here outside Bangor University's Pritchard Jones Hall.

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I can't wait to see what's in some of these bags and boxes

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because hopefully there'll be something really interesting

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that will bring some big results for our owners

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when we put them under the hammer later on in the show.

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There are surprises in store for some of our owners.

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You'd rather have the money than them stuck in a drawer?

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-Yes.

-Or stuck in me.

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And some of our experts...

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Tell me about yourself, first of all, where you come from?

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Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobw llllantysiliogogogoch.

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So whose antique knowledge will we be testing here in Bangor?

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Heading the team are Adam Partridge, who gave up his studies in Oxford because he found himself more often

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in an auction house than a university lecture hall.

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If Marks sees that he will be really jealous!

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And Mark Stacey, whose enthusiasm for antiques and

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thirst for knowledge has given him an expertise now sought after by the very top names in the business.

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-You really are a charmer, aren't you?

-I try to be.

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-Let's start with Mark who is with Margaret, but he's not giving much away.

-Hello.

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You've brought a charming little piece of silver but we don't want to reveal what it is at the moment.

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-Where did you get it from?

-From a very elderly lady who was with me when I was born.

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No. What do you mean she was with you?

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-She was my mother when I was born.

-What was she doing with your mother?

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She came in an emergency because she had just done her midwifery.

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Did you stay friends all your life?

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All our lives.

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-Fantastic.

-Yes, I moved away from this area but I came back and we contacted each other.

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And you've ended up back in Bangor?

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Yes, back in the promised land.

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It is a lovely little piece. I think it is about time we told everybody what it is.

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-Yes.

-Silver, of course.

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-Yes.

-When we open it,

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it's a little purse.

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-Yes.

-It's Victorian?

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Victorian, is it?

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The mark has unfortunately rubbed so we can't see the date mark

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but it's got Victoria's Head on there and I think it's around about 1880.

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I can't imagine where it came from.

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You can imagine, can't you, a fashionable young, Victorian lady going out for the evening...

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-To a ball?

-To a ball and there she would have in here maybe a few half sovereigns.

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-Yes.

-To pay for her taxicab.

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-Or whatever.

-A horse drawn cab, of course, in those days.

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I just love that shape. It's so simple and yet so elegant, isn't it?

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Elegant, is the word.

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-What do you think it's worth?

-I have no idea whatsoever.

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-£10, £20?

-No, I think a little bit more than that!

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That's what they all say! That's what they all say.

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I do think it's worth more than that.

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I don't think it's hugely valuable.

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I don't think I'm going to go sort of the lottery...

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I don't think so. I don't think so.

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I would put it in because it's such a charming piece.

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It would catch on to people.

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-I would put it in at an estimate of £60 to £80.

-Yes.

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It might go a little higher on the day and I would put a reserve on it. I would put a reserve of £50 on it.

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-Yes.

-Would you be happy with that?

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I would be very happy with that.

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Aren't you just a little bit sad to see it go?

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I have a number of other things particularly liked or used when she was alive.

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I can see that you're quite a determined lady, Margaret.

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Once you've made a decision, that is it.

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Yes, that is very true.

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I have been like that all my life.

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-We have to be, don't we?

-Yes, that is life.

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An item like that just brings the Victorian era back to life, for me.

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I'm mad about wood so it's hardly surprising

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that Sandra's piece of Treen has caught my eye in the queue.

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What's the story, how did you come by this?

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We had to clear out my mother's house 18 months ago.

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I wonder if you can guess what that is, it's a nice bit of turned lignum vitae, it's exceptionally hard wood.

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You know what it is, obviously, don't you? Have you used this?

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That's where the handle is, look.

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There is the mechanism.

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That screws back on.

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Ready? Is there anything in it?

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There's remnants of something inside.

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It's all gone over your clothes now.

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We thought they were coffee beans.

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They would have been coffee beans, yes.

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-This is to grind coffee down.

-It is?

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If I had to stick my neck out I would say this is Continental.

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-Really?

-Yeah. Possibly French, around about 1820.

-Really?

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This is a lovely bit of table Treen, it's called Treen because it's made from the tree. Look at

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this lovely ambiguous grain.

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-It is nice.

-Beautiful.

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Absolutely beautiful.

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I like the knot, there's a knot in the wood.

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-Yeah, there.

-And a knot at the bottom there, as well.

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-Yeah, lots of heart and soul.

-Yes.

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Isn't that lovely? Would you like to put it into the auction?

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I think it's worth around about £100 to £150, I don't know what you thought.

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I had no idea.

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OK. There is a bit of damage to it, just there, but you can see so early, it's softened up.

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-It's not as if it was last week.

-No, indeed.

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It's got a brittle edge.

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-OK, let's put it into auction with the old auctioneer's cliche, shall we £80 to £120.

-OK.

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-Happy?

-Yes.

-And I'm just rather hoping it'll do the 120 to 150 mark.

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-That would be nice.

-Yeah?

-Yeah, lovely.

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It's got to feel right and if it feels right somebody in the auction

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will pick that up and go, "Oh, that's so tactile, I love that."

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Caress it, not want to put it down.

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They will want to own that and hopefully they will put their hand up and buy it.

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-See you on the day.

-Lovely.

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What a nice thing, I love early pieces of Treen.

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Next Adam's extensive knowledge comes in handy with some mystery objects brought in by Gill.

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-Well, Gill, these are fantastic little items you've brought along today.

-Thank you.

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-Do you know what they are?

-No. No idea.

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-Where did you get them from?

-My mum.

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Did she live in the countryside?

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I think probably they came from her father originally or her grandfather who was in the farming industry.

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-Well, that helps, really.

-Yes.

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They are Georgian, early 19th Century and they're fleams.

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-Fleams...

-Fleams, which are blood letting instruments.

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-Right.

-We have a little group of people behind us and I thought we would do a demonstration.

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They're blood letting instruments and there are three blades. This one is stamped Borwick.

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Borwick was quite a well known fleam maker.

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He was in Sheffield, Roger Borwick and he started about 1790 to 1860.

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I would think those are early 19 Century, they're horn handles, both similar things.

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There are collectors of medical apparatus, medical instruments out there.

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But they are more veterinary rather than human?

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-I think so. Quality, aren't they?

-Yes.

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Nice quality. I think they should make £20 each. Something like that.

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-I would be tempted to put an estimate of £30 to £50 to be realistic.

-Yes, each?

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-For the two. 30 to 50 for the two I think would be realistic.

-Yes, OK.

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Would you like them back if they didn't make a certain price?

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I don't know. No, I don't think so.

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Oh, his input there, "No let them go."

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Really, it's not a lot of money but they're interesting objects and there will be a lot of people

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watching this that have no idea what they are or what they're for.

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I didn't know what they were until I brought them today.

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Good. I've managed to teach someone something.

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Wonderful. Hopefully, some people watching at home

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will say, "We've got one! I never knew what it was for!"

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So, a quick reminder of the first few items which will be up for sale at auction.

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Mark's find was first, the little silver purse. What a glorious reminder of bygone elegance.

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The Treen coffee grinder was my choice. The wood is superb and it has a wonderfully warm quality.

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It caught my eye and I don't think I'll be the only one.

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Adam unravelled the mystery of Gill's fleams, The blood letting

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instruments, and once again they give us a glimpse into the past.

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These little pieces of history haven't got far to go.

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They're being sold at Rogers, Jones & Co, auctioneers and valuers in Colwyn Bay.

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It's looking busy, which is always a good sign before the auction starts.

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I going to find out what auctioneer, David Rogers Jones, thinks of Sandra's lovely piece of Treen.

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I like this little lot, I'm a big fan of Treen. This is a wonderful early 19th Century coffee grinder.

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It's made of lignum. What I like about it, it's so tactile.

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It's had so much use and you can see the grease and dirt all over it.

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I'm hoping this is going to do around the £150 mark but I've put £80 to £120 on it.

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It is nice piece, there is a nice feel to it.

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Yes, I would have gone along with that, Paul.

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The lady who brought it in

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was apparently quite happy with the valuation and I think we all would have agreed with her but when she

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mentioned it to other members of the family they apparently didn't agree.

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Right, basically, they're saying, "Don't sell it." They don't want it to be sold.

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-Yeah. There appears to be a bit of dissension.

-Have the family said.

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"We want a lot more."

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The family has, a member of the family has apparently said that it shouldn't be less than £500 or £600.

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-The reserve has been increased.

-To what?

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Its been increased to £600 with some discretion.

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Well, you know what that means. They really don't want it to leave the family.

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Yes, that might be the reason but I'm not wholly convinced that is the reason.

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I think it is a monetary thing. I think a member of the family...

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-For the right money?

-For the right money, I'll sell.

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-Yes.

-They've got a point, you know.

-It's early Treen, early Treen sells well.

-It does.

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Which is why a few people have already made a beeline to come and see it and look at the catalogue.

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I'd like to think this was an absolute high at £600, and if it does fetch £600

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I would be ever so happy.

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We're kicking off with Jill and her husband Peter with their pair of fleams.

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We haven't seen these on the show before.

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This is a first for Flog It!, we've got blood letting instruments, fleams, Gill and Peter?

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-Yes.

-I hope they were never used.

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Well, they were at one time.

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-For veterinary use, these.

-Yes.

-So, how did you come across them?

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-I found them amongst my mother's things.

-Oh, did you?

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-Yes. Not a lot of money there, £30 to £40.

-No.

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It's the kind of thing that not a lot of people would want to buy.

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-At a fair you'd have to give 30 or 40 each.

-Would you?

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Sometimes a touch more, so I think we should be about right.

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That's positive. Happy?

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-Yes!

-You'd rather have the money than have them stuck in a drawer, wouldn't you?

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Or stuck in me(!)

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Two bone backed three bladed fleams.

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One marked Borwick, the other indistinct.

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Bid me, £50, for the two fleams.

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£30? £20, thank you, sir.

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20, I'm bid. 20, 25.

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30, 35.

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40, 45.

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45 I'm bid. Is there 50? At £45.

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Everybody done now? Any further?

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At £45 and going.

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Yes, £45, we nearly did it.

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That's not bad, that's a really good result, isn't it? £45, happy?

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-Yes, very happy.

-They could easily have been discarded.

-Oh, yes.

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That's the great thing about antiques, classic recycling.

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-You can't get anything greener than that.

-Absolutely!

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Not bad at all, they almost hit the top end.

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Do you remember the 19th Century coffee grinder that I valued at 80 to 120, belonging to Sandra,

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well, we've got that going under the hammer right now.

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Unfortunately Sandra can't be with us but we do have her daughter, Joanne.

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It's good to see you, it really is.

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Now, since the valuation day the family have been

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in touch with the saleroom and they've put the reserve up to £600.

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-A great big quantum leap in value, isn't it?

-It is.

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It says to me, really, that somebody in the family doesn't really want this to go.

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Yes, they've done a little bit of research into it.

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Like you say, it's sentimental, it was my grandmother's.

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It's hard to let things go.

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Yeah, it is, isn't it?

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Let's find out what happens because it's interesting.

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-It is.

-And this is what auctions are all about.

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-That's right, you never know.

-You just never know.

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Good luck, Joanne, here we go.

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A 19th Century lignum coffee grinder. Bid me 500.

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Early piece of Treen.

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400?

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200 I'm bid at 200. At 200 on the book. Where's 50?

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At 200. 50 anywhere?

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At £200. Is there 50?

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At £200, 50 I'll take.

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Everybody done? At £200... I'm afraid this is a non starter.

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At £200, everybody done?

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-Well, it's good, it's going home.

-It's going home, yes.

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It's not meant to be sold, is it?

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She's looking down on us and saying, "Don't sell that."

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-You've got kids, you've got a little boy.

-I have.

-That'll be his one day.

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You're right.

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Don't ever sell it, really.

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-We shouldn't really, should we?

-No.

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We've all learnt a lesson, haven't we?

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Next we have Margaret and her charming Victorian silver purse.

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Well we do say condition is everything in this game and this lot has the lot.

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It's got the look, it's got the condition.

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It belongs to Margaret and it's that lovely Victorian shell shaped purse.

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It's not a lot of money and I expect this to fly out of the room.

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-Oh, I do. Has it just been in a drawer?

-Yes.

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-Not on display, really.

-Not on display.

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It's a lovely-looking thing, it caught Mark's eye.

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It's a charming little bit of Victoriana Edwardian.

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I mean, it's something that nobody would ever use.

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You can just imagine a lady going to the ball keeping her sovereign there for the carriage.

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The carriage on the way home.

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-Yes, that's right.

-Keep her little dance card in there.

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It's just wonderful.

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-It should sell well.

-Fingers crossed it's going to go to a collector who's right here in this room.

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The Victorian silver shell coin purse. It's a little beaut.

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It starts with me at 80.

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-Oh, that's very good.

-80 on the book.

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-It's gorgeous, isn't it?

-80, 90 anywhere? £80 with me.

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90, 90 I'm bid. 90, £90 only.

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Leave the gate open at 95.

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-Is that 100? £100.

-Yes.

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-Oh, 100.

-This is good.

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I think we'll get it up to £100.

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Yes! You see, straight in at 80.

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Quality always sells, that's what we keep saying.

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If you're gonna invest in antiques, make sure it's in great condition.

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-It was lovely, wasn't it?

-It was very nice.

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A good result for a good thing. And when we return later Adam has a bright idea

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of how antiques could help the financial health of the country.

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It's been up in the loft now for 20 odd years.

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If we could clear every loft in the land I think we'd solve the economy.

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I've crossed the Menai Strait to the Isle of Anglesey to visit

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Plas Newydd, one of Britain's superb country houses and like so many of these fine establishments, it was

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given over to the National Trust which has maintained it since 1976.

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There is plenty of history here, parts of this magnificent house date back to 1470.

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Today, I've come to look at something relatively more modern

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and that's the 20th century work of artist, Rex Whistler.

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In 1936, when the 6th Marquis of Anglesey had architects to remodel the complete wing of this part of

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the house, he commissioned Rex Whistler to paint a mural on his recently created dining room wall.

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At the time Rex Whistler was an extremely fashionable choice.

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He was highly versatile, not only did he paint, but he turned

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his hand to book illustration and theatre design.

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He was an absolutely delightful chap, very

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popular with the country house set in the heady inter-war years.

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He became personal friends with many of the families who commissioned his work and today I'm lucky enough

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to talk to the present Lord Anglesey who still resides here in this magnificent house, Plas Newydd.

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He's going to talk me through the mural and share some of his personal memories of Rex Whistler.

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Lord Anglesey, how did the commission come about and what was the brief?

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It's very interesting that, because when my father

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made this room specially for him, other people asked that.

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The answer was, he had just become THE fashionable painter.

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Did the family have a say in what was going on in the mural?

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Oh, yes. He discussed it with us the whole time.

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How old were you when Rex was here painting?

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When he first started, I was about 15, 16.

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Yes. Did you take a liking to him? Was he a fun, artistic chap to know?

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He became, for all of us, including my five sisters, an absolutely adorable friend. He loved children.

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-He used to allow us, at all stages when it was just charcoal on canvas, to paint in.

-Have a little scribble.

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-He would help us. We learnt a lot.

-Which was your bit?

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Well, I tell you, three weeks later somehow it wasn't there any more.

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Oh, really?

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How long did it take him to do?

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In good summer weather he would come and stay here, for a fortnight.

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The trouble was, as he was a very, very fast worker, if the sun was

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-shining we often found him not at it.

-Oh really?

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-He was sunbathing, was he?

-Sunbathing, yes.

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There's a lightness of touch in his work and a great sense of humour.

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-Does that reflect the character you knew?

-Yes, certainly.

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He had a great sense of humour and he was contemplating life generally

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-while he was here because he was in love with my elder sister, ten years older than me.

-I gather that.

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He had feelings for her. Were you aware of that at the time?

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She didn't have much feeling for him.

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She liked him but she didn't want to marry them.

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This is absolutely beautiful.

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Will you walk through the story and tell me how it unfolds?

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There, is him as the gardener.

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I don't think he'd ever got a weed out of anywhere.

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No. Isn't that a wonderful perspective.

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-You feel like you can walk right through those arches?

-Absolutely.

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That was what he was a particular master of, was perspective.

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He got those arches exactly right.

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That's perfect.

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Show me how the story unfolds.

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-Shall we start here.

-OK.

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First of all, here are three dogs and the one on the cushion always wore the best real pearls.

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-Really?

-Very spoilt.

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This is my favourite.

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This gothic bit here...

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Perfect symmetry he's captured, it's almost like the work of an architect, isn't it?

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He had this extraordinary memory.

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If he had seen that building in reality, 10 years earlier...

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He could capture it and remember.

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No, but more than that he could tell you exactly how many windows there

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were, exactly how many panes there were in the windows and how many doors and everything else.

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He could remember it absolutely.

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Any young man that you see in this painting is me.

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Any older man, like that man and this man, who was at this end, are Rex.

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My sister, with whom he was so madly in love, is any girl you see.

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There is my sister, Caroline.

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She was a beautiful girl, wasn't she?

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She was. All my sisters were very good looking.

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-One of them is still alive and she's my twin.

-Oh, really?

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The water looks like it's moving.

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Yes, absolutely.

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I remember as he was leaving, he had to leave it unfinished, he said,

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"Of course, I should have made this water calm."

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Yes, it's in the harbour, isn't it?

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He never got around to that.

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He was often cutting out bits he painted and said there's too much of this or not enough.

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Really? He was his own self critic.

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The whole time. I must just tell you one or two things about this.

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This was a ship he painted out.

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I think you can see it.

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I can. You can just see the mast.

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Why did he do that?

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Because he said one day, "there are too many ships here."

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A big brush, out it goes.

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Next day, it's finished.

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Amazing speed.

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And there's my father's pre- First World War yacht.

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-Yes.

-Those were the days when we were rich.

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You said with a big smile!

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This is very fascinating because one evening we were all rather drunk and about to go to bed and Rex said,

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"There's a ship here which I want to take out."

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In the morning, we came down and here was this, this wonderful line.

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He did that overnight.

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He did it overnight and finished it off in the course of that day.

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It must have been great for you to get up as a teenager

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and come downstairs and wander through here and say, "I wonder what Rex has done next?"

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Absolutely right. That happened often.

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-The most important historical thing is...

-Look at the footprints.

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We've got footprints. Why are they there? Whose are they?

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Someone's just come out of the water.

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Like Neptune.

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Neptune! You're quite right and there is his crown and his coral sceptre with a golden tip.

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Then he was a master of doing this rigging.

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My father, who knew about rigging, was amazed.

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The detail is very good.

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It is as if he spent time at sea to understand it.

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He hadn't at all. He'd merely observed when he'd seen them,

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as he was always observing, and my father said, "It's incredible you've got them almost exactly right."

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-Nice, isn't it?

-Yes.

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I don't know who that is but it's probably my twin sister, Kitty.

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She's holding a little doll.

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Yes, you're right. I've never noticed it before.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Here is this great town and its full of all sorts of things.

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Here is an amazing

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helter skelter.

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The fair going on there, which is nice, isn't it?

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-How about that?

-Look at that as a backdrop.

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A wonderful mountain range.

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Here is my father

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as the creator of all of this.

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-Was your father really happy with this mural?

-Amazingly happy.

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We all were, as you can imagine.

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Here we have this wonderful picture of himself which we've already looked at

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and here I longed to know what happens up there.

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What happened when Rex finished the mural? Did he come back and stay often?

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No, because the war came and he didn't finish it, as I've shown.

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He then became an officer in the Welsh Guards.

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He wanted to go over and fight.

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"I want to go and get killed."

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He did as well, didn't he, at the age of 39?

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He got killed before he saw suspicion of the German.

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It was a mortar, wasn't it, in Normandy that got him?

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It was, indeed.

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Tragic.

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I was in Italy at that time. Fighting the Nazis too.

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I heard the news and my first reaction was,

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"Oh, he was so incompetent at anything except painting and drawing.

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"It was too awful."

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It's just incredible, isn't it? So much to take in all at once.

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You need to spend a day or two looking at it.

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Well, I tell you, I spent two years before I was certain and you showed me that doll.

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I assumed, you see, and I wasn't certain where everything was.

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-Thank you for that.

-That's OK.

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So, there you are. Rex Whistler's marvellous 18 metre mural.

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Wasn't that a real eye-opener?

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I just think it acts as a time capsule, really.

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It gives us a glimpse into the past in the 1930s, with all the glitz and the glamour that the privileged had.

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Living in houses like this. A last flowering of life, if you like,

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before it was cruelly swept away forever by the Second World War.

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At the Pritchard Jones Hall in Bangor, there's still plenty to be examined.

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Our team of experts are at full tilt working their way through the crowd.

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Adam is in his element. He's with Edwina and Ivor, and they have a violin case on the table.

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-I'm always excited to see a violin case.

-Oh, right.

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It's one of my areas, violins. One of the things I know about.

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Tell me about yourselves, first of all.

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Where do you come from?

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We live in Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrob wllllantysiliogogogoch.

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-Do you really?

-Yes, we do, yes.

-Can you say that, Edwina?

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-I can. Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrob wllllantysiliogogogoch.

-OK.

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-And I'm not Welsh!

-You're not Welsh?

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You did very well! And you've brought a violin too.

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Can't get much better. Now, the case looks a bit tatty.

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-It does.

-Where did you get it from?

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It belongs to my son in law Peter.

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Does he know you've got it?

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He does.

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Last night he said, "I've got a violin in my attic. Would you like to take that?"

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And how has it come to be in his attic?

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Well, he doesn't play it.

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And neither do the grandchildren.

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-So, where did he get it from?

-It belonged to his grandfather.

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Right.

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Peter played this in a youth orchestra.

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But he doesn't play it any more.

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-Shall we have a look at it?

-Can do, yes.

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Well, there we go. Now then.

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Let's get the instrument.

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That bridge has fallen off, but that's not a major problem.

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That can be put back up.

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You're lucky that you haven't got all the strings on it, otherwise I'd be playing it.

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Then we'd clear that hall pretty quickly!

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It's got a one a piece back there. Sometimes they have a two piece back.

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-Oh, right.

-This is a one piece back made from maple.

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And on the front there, we call that the table, violin people, rather than the front.

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That's made from pine.

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Inside, there's a label. I can just glimpse a label.

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And it says, "M Costelli, Paris.

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"Lucier artistique 1895."

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-So it's French?

-It's French.

-Oh, right.

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-She's smart, isn't she?

-Yes, oh yes.

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-Now, this Costelli sounds like an Italian name.

-It does.

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And the Italians were very well known for the finest violins.

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French violins are also quite highly regarded. And then, usually another

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step down to the German violins which were more mass produced.

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This is in good condition. People looking will think,

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"Ooh, it's no good, it's got no strings."

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-But it really doesn't matter.

-It can be restrung.

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It can be restrung for £60, something like that.

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Not a lot. Under £100 you can get that into a playable condition.

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There's no cracks, which is the major thing.

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He was obviously quite enthusiastic, granddad, because he's managed to knock a corner off there.

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-With the bow?

-That's from really enjoying it with the bow,

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and maybe he just caught that, as he's been playing it, you know?

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He's really enjoying himself, bang, off goes the corner.

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But that's just a cosmetic thing, again, that can be sorted.

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We always check the bows, because sometimes it's worth more than the instrument.

0:28:450:28:49

Oh, right.

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Let's have a quick look at that one.

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-What's this, horse hair?

-Horse hair, yes, that's right.

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So, you haven't got any special individual value with the bows.

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-So, what do you think your broken violin and a tatty old case is worth, then?

-Haven't got a clue.

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-Not a clue.

-No? We know nothing about violins. No guesses?

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-No, not at all.

-50 quid?

-No idea.

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-Would you take that?

-No idea.

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I think it's more than that.

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-French violins can make a few hundred pounds.

-Can they?

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-The most famous ones can make even more than that. Early thousands.

-Oh, right.

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This Costelli isn't a very well known or highly regarded maker.

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So, I'd go on the cautious end, and put £100 to £200 estimate on it.

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-Right.

-And put a reserve of 100.

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-It's definitely worth £100 whatever happens.

-Is it?

-Yeah, All day long.

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-Oh, right.

-If it doesn't make £100, it's not worth selling it.

-No.

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So I'd try that. Put £100 reserve, if it doesn't sell, you'll have to take it up and learn it.

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-I could give you some lessons.

-What, at my age?

0:29:440:29:47

Nice idea, but I don't think they'll be taking up the violin. I think it'll sell.

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-Hello, what's your name?

-Liz.

-Liz, pleased to meet you. Are you local?

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-Yes.

-Do you live in Bangor?

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-No, Llanberis.

-Is that just down the road?

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Not far, nine miles away.

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-Well, this is nice, it's like a yard rule, isn't it?

-It is.

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I bet this belongs to a seamstress?

0:30:070:30:08

-Yes.

-For turning cloth on a large table.

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Has this been in the family long?

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Yes, it was my father's sister, she was a tailoress.

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She'd have been nearly 100 now, and she had it most of her life.

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Yeah, I'd put this at early Edwardian, actually.

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So it's been around for a little bit of time.

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You don't want to sell this though, do you? You're not going to sell this?

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Because we've got small grandchildren, and they tend to...

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I know what you're going to say! Sword fighting!

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It makes a good sword, doesn't it, if you're a little kid?

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So just in case. With it being so old.

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Look, if you put something like that into auction, it's only going to realise around about £40 to £60.

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-Uh-huh.

-I think it's worth an awful lot more

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in sentimental value if you hang on to it, I really do.

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I really do. Because, by the time you pay commission,

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you might not be left with an awful lot of money.

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Surely you can find another use for it, not a sword stick?!

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-Use it, take up dressmaking!

-Oh, dear me.

0:31:040:31:07

Now Mark has a very good question for our next owner.

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Dora.

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-Why are you selling such a pretty-looking vase?

-It's only stuck in the cupboard.

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Only stuck in the cupboard, is it?

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-It's charming, isn't it?

-It is, I like it.

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It is lovely colours, really spring colours, actually. These very delicate oranges and greens.

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It really took my eye when I saw it.

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-It is, and is it a family piece?

-No.

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-You bought it?

-Yes.

-When?

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Must be 18 years ago.

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-Gosh! And what did you pay for it 18 years ago?

-Half a crown.

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Half a crown, that's 25p, isn't it?

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-25p now, yes.

-Wow. And is it a bargain, do you think?

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Oh, yes.

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And have you used it to put flowers and things in?

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I did, yes. And then, when we had the cats and the dog,

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-I said, no.

-I think it's lovely. And you've looked after it, you haven't damaged it, which is the main thing.

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It's a really nice piece.

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I don't need...we will have a look at the mark in a moment, but I won't need to look at the mark.

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Because I know who designed this vase.

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Very typical of her work, and we've filmed a lot of things of hers on the show.

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It's not Clarice Cliff, it's the other well known art deco designer, Charlotte Reid.

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And we know her typically, straight away, with this lovely two line decoration.

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And I love this sort of shaped, ribbed body.

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We will just have a little look at the mark. And there we've got

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"C Reid, Crown Ducal,"

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which is one of the firms she worked for. And then a shape number as well.

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But it really is quite typical of the 1930s, the mottled glaze, and the lovely decoration.

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And you've had it a long time. Why have you decided to sell it today?

0:32:380:32:42

18 years I think I've had it.

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I'm getting older, nobody wants it.

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Nobody wants it?

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It's a bygone era, isn't it, you see?

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Well, I think it's a lovely item.

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It's not going to be worth a huge amount, because it's quite a small piece by Charlotte Reid.

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The things that make a lot of money are the big decorative chargers.

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But I think, if we were putting that vase in for auction, we'd be looking at around £40 to £50.

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-Would you be happy with that?

-Yes.

0:33:080:33:11

-Ish.

-Ish, and more!

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Well, we all want more, don't we, really? But I think we've got to be sensible.

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It's a nice little piece, but if we put £40 to £50 on it, we might then hit the £50 or £60 mark.

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-And we'll put a reserve of 35 on it, is that all right?

-Yes.

-Fantastic.

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Dora certainly got a bargain there.

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Next, Adam has spotted some quality decanters.

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-Steve, welcome to Flog It!.

-Thank you.

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-How are you doing?

-All right, fine.

-Good. You've got a nice thing here.

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-Yes, it's very precious.

-Is it?

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-I hope so!

-Well, is it precious to you sentimentally?

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In a way, yes.

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But it's been up in the loft now for 20 odd years, doing nothing. So I might as well...

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If we could clear every loft in the land, I think we'd solve the economy.

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The amount of stuff people have in the loft.

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-Yeah.

-Where was it before the loft? How did it come to be in your family's possession?

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My grandfather and granny, and my mother, worked

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in a hall in Formby.

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-So they were in service?

-Yes, service.

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You know, the last of the upstairs/downstairs people.

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My granny was the cook, and my grandfather was a butler. And my mother was a maid.

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-And where was that?

-That was in Formby Hall.

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-OK, Merseyside?

-Yes, Merseyside.

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Excellent. And so, how do you think they got these?

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-Do you think they were given then?

-I think they were given them.

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-As a sort of thank you gift or retirement gift or something like that?

-Could have been, yes.

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Could have been. Well, it's a very posh thing this, really.

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Look at the thickness of the wood as well.

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It's made out of coromandel, which is an exotic and expensive timber, that was mainly used to make small things.

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You don't see much furniture made out of it, it was all boxes and small things like this.

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It's fitted with two really nice quality decanters.

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-Is it English made, do you think?

-Yes, it is. Definitely English made.

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Another sign of quality, you've also got the key, which is quite unusual.

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Most things have lost their keys by now.

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And you've got this special type of lock on here. Brahma patent lock.

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-Oh, yes.

-Now these locks are a special secure lock.

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I remember you saying before we started, you said,

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"Don't shut it, because it's a terrible thing to open!"

0:35:200:35:22

-Yes.

-That's because of this lock, it's a patent lock.

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And it's wonderful quality.

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Brahma's patent. And you only see it on fine things.

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So it's also another sign of quality.

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That's why it took us ages to open it!

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They used to use that as they were travelling along, carriages and things?

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In a carriage, or if you were travelling out, rather than take your liqueur just in a bottle.

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The more refined people would take them in decanters in a fitted

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coromandel case with a flush brass carrying handle on the top as well.

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It's just all lovely quality, really.

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Now of course it's, what, 1850s or so?

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So it's been around 150 years plus.

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150 years plus.

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It's had a bit of a hard life in places, hasn't it?

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-It's not too bad.

-Little nicks in it.

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With these things here, they're always nice on the front and on

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-top, but then they were cheaper on the sides and the back.

-Yeah.

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And if you see on the side there, you've got a bit of damage.

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And on the back, it's not nearly as posh as it is on the front.

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No, that's right.

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So that's often the way with these things. It's a nice thing.

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How much do you think it might be worth?

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What do you think it's worth?

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I don't know, I haven't a clue

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-to be honest.

-Realistically, in that order,

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because the glass isn't perfect either, there are a few little minor grazes really, aren't there?

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But I'd have thought between £100 and £200 is your likely realised price.

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-Sounds all right.

-Maybe a touch more.

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But I think that's fairly realistic.

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I'd put a reserve of 100.

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And, if it doesn't make 100, maybe give it 10% leeway just in case, if that's all right with you?

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If it doesn't make £90/£100, then keep it.

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But, all in all, a good quality object.

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If it makes 150 quid, what will you do with it?

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Finish my kitchen off.

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Really?

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Now that's a story I've heard before.

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Let's remind ourselves of the remaining items to go under the hammer at auction.

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I really don't think that Ivor and Edwina's son in law Peter should worry.

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There won't be any problem selling his French violin.

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And I think Dora will be getting a good return on her half a crown,

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when the Charlotte Reid vase goes under the hammer.

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Steve needs to get on with that kitchen, so let's hope the sale of the decanters will help fund it.

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There's a lively atmosphere at the auction house, so fingers crossed.

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First up are Steve's decanters.

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His wife Anne has joined him, probably because she's keen to get her kitchen finished too.

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Fingers crossed, Anne and Steve. OK?

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I know you're feeling a bit nervous, we're just about to sell the decanters.

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We're looking for about £100 to £200.

0:37:560:37:58

-Happy with that?

-Yeah, I think so.

0:37:580:38:01

Confident as ever, cocky as ever.

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Yes, he is.

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Let's hope we get the top end.

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Good luck, it's going under the hammer right now. This is it.

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And the very nice Amboina decanter box containing two decanters.

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With mushroom stoppers.

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Bids all over the book on this one.

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-453.

-Wow! Straight into...

0:38:200:38:23

No, that's the lot number!

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You've got to keep alert at auctions, believe me!

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70 if you like? At 170.

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180, 180 bid. Is there 90? At 180.

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90. 190. Level money?

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I'd better not fan, I might bid it.

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Level money? At 190.

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That's a good result.

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-Top end of estimate.

-At £190.

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We'll settle for that.

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I think that's drinks all round, £190. Well done, Madam.

0:38:500:38:54

-Happy with that?

-Yes, yes.

0:38:540:38:56

-It was our anniversary the other day.

-Was it? I was about to say,

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-what would you put the money towards or spend on?

-46 years.

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-46 years together, still in love as well. Happy as ever.

-Just about!

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Of course they are. Next up, the pretty Charlotte Reid vase.

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It's a lovely little vase valued by Mark, our expert.

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-It belongs to Dora, and I'm ever so jealous.

-Are you now?

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Yes, because Dora lives in Anglesey.

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I don't want the Charlotte Reid vase, but I'd love to live in Anglesey. Have you got a sea view?

0:39:200:39:24

Yes. All the way from Holyhead to Point Lynas.

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And have you lived there all your life?

0:39:280:39:31

-No, 30 years.

-30 years.

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-Where were you before that?

-Near Pwhelli.

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-Between Nefyn and Pwhelli.

-North Wales born and bred, then?

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-Yes.

-What a great part of the world, isn't it?

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You look so healthy as well.

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That's all that sea air, isn't it?

0:39:430:39:45

-All the gardening.

-Do you love gardening?

-I do.

0:39:450:39:48

Look, good luck with the Charlotte Reid vase. Everyone will love this.

0:39:480:39:52

I'd had it for years before I found the name on it!

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It is rather sweet. The design is very typical.

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The auctioneer liked this.

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-It'll do well.

-Oh, good.

-And it's coming under the hammer right now.

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Lot 219, the very nice Crown Ducal wide necked vase. Charlotte Reid.

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Number 213 to the base.

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Start on the book, I've got book bids. Bids start at 70.

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Top end, straight in.

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At 70, 70 bid. It's a little beaut.

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5, 80? 80 bid.

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85? 90. £90. Coming back?

0:40:240:40:28

90, with me. Anybody else? At £90.

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That's not bad, is it, £90?

0:40:320:40:34

Final call at £90. Level money would be nice.

0:40:340:40:36

-That's very good.

-Make no mistake.

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Great result, and good luck.

0:40:390:40:41

-Good luck with the garden, I bet all the money is going on some more plants, is it?

-A bit of it.

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And a bit of manual labour?

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Strong young man in to sort of...?

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No? It's all you?

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Well, that's the spirit, Dora.

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Our final lot is the French violin belonging to Ivor and Edwina's son in law Peter.

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Edwina and Ivor, good luck with this one.

0:41:040:41:07

Just about to put the violin under the hammer, and it's a good job Adam Partridge was at our valuation,

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because he's the only expert that understands violins!

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We all go, "This is nice. Unfortunately Adam's not here today."

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Because he doesn't do every single one, and we kind of pass the violin around.

0:41:190:41:23

Will this do a little more than 150?

0:41:230:41:26

It should make 200 or 300 really, I suppose.

0:41:260:41:28

But it's got a few condition issues.

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Just the corners, cosmetic things, which may put people off.

0:41:300:41:33

I think the estimate is about right.

0:41:330:41:35

I'd like to see it make a bit more, of course.

0:41:350:41:37

That would be nice for everyone.

0:41:370:41:39

Good luck. It's going under the hammer now.

0:41:390:41:41

Very, very nice violin. I've had a lot of interest in it.

0:41:410:41:45

Start me £300.

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Deathly silence.

0:41:460:41:48

-200?

-Come on, where are the hands?

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Opening bid of 100. £100.

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-I'm feeling nervous now.

-100 bid.

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125, 150?

0:41:550:41:57

150?

0:41:570:42:00

150 bid. 175?

0:42:000:42:02

That's what you said.

0:42:020:42:04

Is there 200? At 175, 200?

0:42:040:42:06

A new bidder. At 200. 25? 225 online.

0:42:060:42:12

250 on the phone.

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Now it's creeping up. They don't want to lose it.

0:42:140:42:17

275 online.

0:42:170:42:19

300 on the phone. 300 I'm bid.

0:42:190:42:21

25 online.

0:42:210:42:23

350 on the phone. At 350. 75 online.

0:42:230:42:30

400 on the phone.

0:42:300:42:32

I'd like to be going 50s now.

0:42:320:42:33

425 online. 450.

0:42:330:42:38

475 online.

0:42:380:42:41

-475!

-500 on the phone.

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At £500. 525.

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525 online.

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Final call.

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-It's slowed down.

-They haven't seen it!

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All done?

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No second thoughts?

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-£525. That ended in a crescendo, didn't it?

-It did.

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-What a wonderful moment, hey?

-Fantastic.

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Paul Martin is joined in his search through the local antiques and collectables in the university city of Bangor, north Wales, by a team of experts headed up by Mark Stacey and Adam Partridge. Mark finds a silver purse which brings back a bygone era, and Adam plays to his strengths when valuing a French violin.

Taking a break from the antiques, Paul travels across the Menai Straits to hear Lord Anglesey's memories of Rex Whistler painting the famous mural at Plas Newydd.