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Welcome to "Flog It!", the show that values your unwanted antiques and whisks them off to auction.

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Today, we're in the beautiful north-west corner of Wales, in Bangor.

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Bangor occupies a unique location in the UK.

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Situated between the mountains and the sea, it boasts 10 national nature reserves, a National Park,

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two designated areas of outstanding beauty, and 83 sites of special scientific interest.

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All within 15 miles of the city.

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And now there's another special site of interest to add.

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As for one day only, "Flog It!" is at Bangor University.

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And if you look closely, you might be able to see

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a lesser-spotted expert casting his eyes

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over some antiques and collectibles.

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And rustling through the shrubbery today, we have experts Mark Stacey and Adam Partridge.

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This lady said I was her favourite valuer, so that's quite rare, isn't it?

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Adam's passion for antiques started when he was studying at Oxford University.

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But it was in his early days as a porter that he learnt most of his valuable lessons.

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And I ran to pick up a jug like that...

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The jug fell off. And I was left holding the handle.

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So I never hold anything by the handle.

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Mark is a proper grown-up valuer, but he still says he has the most fun doing "Flog It!".

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-Do you want to do that?

-No, I'll do the car.

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-I want to do the car.

-Oh, it's like that now, is it?

-Yes.

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Both experts will be leading a team of valuers as we try to find out the best items to take off to auction.

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Coming up, we've got a show full of surprises.

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-Did you have any high expectations?

-Well, no, because I was always told it was a piece of costume jewellery.

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So, what do you think that's worth, then?

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I've no idea. Not very much, I suspect.

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Look at this.

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That's scary.

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Art Nouveau, silver mirror.

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-What do you think about that?

-Well, I'm amazed.

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-A bit shocked?

-Yes.

-I think we are a bit taken back as well.

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Well, everybody is now safely seated.

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Inside, there's hundreds of people which means

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plenty of antiques for our experts to get their teeth stuck in to.

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And it looks like Adam is first at the tables.

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And he's with Patricia who's got high hopes for her fishy item.

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-Welcome.

-Thank you.

-And what a curious item.

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I really like this little thing here. What can you tell me yourself?

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It's been in the family for a few generations. As far as I know, it belonged to my great grandmother.

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Your great-grandmother? So, that's 19th century, then, isn't it?

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Yes.

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-Do you like it?

-I love it.

-It's great fun, isn't it?

-Yes. So unusual.

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It's fully articulated, isn't it, along the end.

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And you've got little ruby eyes.

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-And then the head pulls off, doesn't it?

-Yes.

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Just give it a tug. There we are.

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-And that unscrews.

-And this unscrews.

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And then, in there, we've got this sort of internal division there, haven't we?

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What do you think it's for?

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I was told a few years ago that it was for the use of opium.

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For the use of opium? I wouldn't know anything about that.

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I wouldn't. Somebody told me.

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It's certainly not English.

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It's not hallmarked, there's no marks on it at all.

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It will be silver, it feels like silver.

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The use of the ruby in the eyes perhaps indicates it could be Indian.

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Then another of my colleagues said it's Chinese.

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So, we've all had a look at this and we're not 100% sure...

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..what it is or where it comes from.

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But I've seen similar things that come on the market.

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Let's call it an Eastern white-metal container. In the form of a fish.

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And we probably can't be more specific than that.

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Why do you want to sell it?

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It's a shame it sitting there

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and not a lot of people see it. It's beautiful.

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-It is a lovely thing.

-It's interesting.

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Estimate wise, similar objects seem to make £60-£80, maybe £100, that sort of thing. Does that fit in

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-with your expectations.

-Fine.

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I think we should put a reserve of 60 there.

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And if it doesn't make that, you'll have it back. But I think it'll go swimmingly.

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-So do I. I hope so.

-Thank you very much for bringing it.

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-And we'll see what happens at the auction.

-Look forward to it.

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Patricia's not the only one who's brought in an interesting item today.

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Do you know, it's surprising what you find.

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In all these bags and boxes, there's something different wherever you go in any part of the UK

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-and there's something I'll show you in this bag, if I can just pick it up. What's your name?

-Diane.

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Can I borrow this for a second?

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Are you ready for this?

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It's a little Chihuahua.

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Not for sale!

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-What's her name?

-Ebony.

-Ebony. Look.

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There's Ebony. Look at Ebony.

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Ah!

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Well, Ebony might not be for sale but Generys and Meryl have two dogs that definitely are.

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Tell me where you got these wonderful greyhounds from.

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They were my mother's, she must have had them 50 years.

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And when she passed away, I had them.

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-And where do they live at home?

-In the cupboard.

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A display cabinet?

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-No.

-No? Locked away?

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Don't see the light of day? What a shame.

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Why have you brought them along today?

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Well, they're no use to me at all.

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Do you like them, Meryl?

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-They'd be stuck in my cupboard as well.

-And your children?

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They would sell them. They would take them out of my cupboard to sell them.

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That's the trouble with brass and copper these days. It does need a lot of cleaning.

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The reason I like them is because they're a pair of greyhounds.

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And they're named. They're obviously champions.

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And, in their day, they would have been well known, which is why these have been made of them.

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They would have gone in a hearth or on a mantelpiece.

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Have you done any research on them?

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Well, we saw on the internet...

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-Oh, the internet!

-19th Century.

-I think they are because if you look at them,

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they've that lovely warm colour that shows you they've got some age to them.

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Brass does go that sort of mellow colour after a number of years and you can't really fake that.

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Collectors of period furniture and pewter, and things like that, they like pieces like this to go

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on dressers, or around fireplaces because they just help create that 19th century look in a home.

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And I think that's who they would appeal to.

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In terms of value, what do you think?

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-Have you any ideas?

-No idea whatsoever.

-£10?

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A bit more than that.

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-You have got an idea.

-150? I don't know.

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I think that might be the top end.

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If I was valuing them honestly, I'd probably say

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£100-£150, with a reserve, at say, 100 with 10% discretion.

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But, I would hope they would make the higher end of that.

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How do you feel about that?

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-You just want to get rid of them, don't you?

-Yeah.

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Well, then, let's do it, shall we?

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Well, let's hope Generys and Meryl's greyhounds will make a dash for cash later in the auction.

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Now, Adam has spotted a nice collection brought in by Jean.

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-Now, were these yours?

-Yes, they were.

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So, they aren't that old, really.

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-No, very nice of you.

-I presume you didn't play with them.

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I did. I put them back in their boxes after I played with them.

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Well, that's very diligent.

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I still put everything back in its box. I still do.

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A good thing, nice and neat and tidy.

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I don't have a very tidy home, but, I like things inside things.

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-I like things stored, you know?

-Right.

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-In boxes.

-Yes, you like a bit of order and correctness.

-I like boxes.

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I often think when I see toys in their original boxes that they didn't get played with.

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This one's the tattiest because I played with that one the most because that's a car that we had.

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-Is that a Morris Marina?

-No, it's a Cortina, I think. Isn't it?

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We had that at the time so I would have that one.

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So, you've got your Dinky Cortina there, you've got a McLaren there,

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the racing type, you've got your Spectrum Patrol Car which I think is quite a nice one there.

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-And, of course, you've got your boxed helicopter, the Sea King helicopter.

-With the lunar module.

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-The Apollo module.

-That dates itself, doesn't it?

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The Apollo module. And it's still got the winch.

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-They're in very nice condition, aren't they?

-Yes.

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So, can you give us an indication of what sort of year you got these?

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-It would be in the 60s some time, I would think. Early 60s.

-That's right.

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I presume you've got no need for them now?

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No, I don't think so. I think I'm a bit old to play with them now.

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-No family, so...

-Where were they before you brought them down today?

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They were in storage at Mum's. They were in an old record case at Mum's.

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-She'll be glad of more space.

-Yeah.

-They're not going to make a great deal.

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No, but they make more than Mum would by throwing them in the bin.

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-Oh, yes.

-Which is what she wants to do.

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She's a thrower.

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-And you're the opposite?

-Yes.

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-A thrower meets a hoarder.

-Yes.

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-I'm going to estimate £30-£50 on the lot.

-Right.

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I think we let them make their own price.

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-Yep.

-Is that all right?

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-Yes, that's fine.

-People always like Dinkys.

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-Yes.

-And they always make what they should.

-That's fine.

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-We'll leave it to that, then.

-Lovely.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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Those are our first item was ready to go off to auction which today

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is at Rogers, Jones and Co in Colwyn Bay with auctioneer David Rogers.

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But before we start selling, I want to show you a piece of furniture.

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It's a chest of drawers. It's sort of early 19th century circa 1810-1820.

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Lot number 41. It says £70-£100,

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for restoration.

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Now, top's mahogany, the face side is fruitwood and the general carcass...

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..is pine which is what you'd expect. It's got its original locks.

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The handles have been changed.

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It's easy to see if the handles have been changed because you just pull the drawer out,

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they're the nuts and bolts for the back plate,

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but, look, there's another hole there.

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So, throughout its lifetime, this has been updated

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and you can forgive the handles for been changed in a piece like this.

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I mean, we all do it to our kitchens, we all change the doors or change the little knobs.

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It's a lovely chest of drawers, it's beautifully made.

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The drawers are cock-beaded, that's a sign of quality.

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That a nice architectural finish so you don't see the end grain.

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If I can show you this one here, look, that's just dead flat.

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That's not very nice at all. That does just say classic brown to me.

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I wouldn't touch that one. But this one is worth buying because it's going to last another 200 years.

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You don't have to do a thing to it.

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Just give it a polish and it's just lovely. It's a good size.

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It'll fit in a cottage, fit in a bedroom, it'll fit in a hallway.

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And you always need storage. And for 100 quid, you can't go wrong.

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Now is such a good time to buy something like this.

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There are nearly 500 lots going under the hammer today,

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amongst them the first three items

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our experts picked out at the valuation day.

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There's Patricia's beautiful articulated silver fish.

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The unloved brass greyhounds brought in by Generys and Meryl.

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And finally, Gillian's childhood collection of Dinky toys.

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First to be sold is Patricia's unusual fish.

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Why are you selling this? It's beautiful.

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-It's not a lot of money, you should keep it.

-I don't know, I should really.

-Yeah.

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-I think it deserves a better home.

-But it's such a novelty, it really is.

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-It is a novelty.

-Because you get a little surprise, you can sort of pull the fish apart.

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I've already had it for years in the family, and we didn't know that the head came off.

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We were quite surprised when I found out that it did.

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Gutted, I bet!

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You're scaling the depths here.

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If this was English silver, it would do a lot of money.

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-It'd be a few hundred pounds, wouldn't it?

-Yes. Good luck, both of you.

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Now it's going to go under the hammer. Let's find out what the bidders think.

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The very nice silver fish. We think a little needle holder.

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It is openable, I think you take his head off or something or other.

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It's a very nice silver fish. Bid me £80?

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It's all there, with the stopper and everything. 80 I'm bid.

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-He's reeling them in.

-It's a little beauty.

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At 80, 80 I'm bid. 90 anywhere?

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At 80, 80 bid. Is there 90?

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Come on, anybody who collects, erm...

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Fish. Bits of small silver, this is the piece for you.

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At £80 only. Nine if you like?

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90 if you like? Come on. £80.

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All finished? 90. I'd like to make level money, 100.

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I have done. 100 bid.

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And again, sir?

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100, final call. All done now?

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Well done, £100. Well done, Adam. That's good. There is commission to pay.

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-I'm going to take the family out on that, for a meal.

-Are you?

-Fish and chips.

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A good result for Patricia, and there's plenty of money left over for a slap-up fish supper.

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Next up it's that pair of unwanted greyhounds.

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I've just been joined by Gen and Meryl,

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and we're about to put the brass greyhounds to the test. We need £150-odd.

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Why are you selling the greyhounds?

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-I don't really want them.

-You don't want to clean brass anymore, do you?

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-I have never cleaned them.

-Never has!

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Never have?!

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These should do around about £100?

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They're something for the traditionalist.

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They're named, which is rather nice. They're a lovely colour. They should make that.

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Very decorative item. Good luck.

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You don't want to see them going home, do you? No, let's get rid of them. Here we go.

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These are nice quality, these fireside greyhounds.

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What's nice is, they're both each individually modelled.

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Colworths Fullerton and the other, Farndon Ferry, £120?

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80 I'm bid. 80 bid, at 80.

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First to 100. At 80, 80 bid. These are quality.

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At 80, is there 100?

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At £80 only. 100 anywhere?

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At £80, come on, come on.

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I'll split with you, go 90.

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At £80, is there 90?

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At £80 only,

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in which case we have to leave them.

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Can we sell them at 80? Yes, sell them.

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Sell them at 80? OK, in your hands.

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£80 is a book bid. 90 now?

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At £80, a book bid. All finished?

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You see what happened there, the auctioneer asked us if we were

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happy to sell at £80, and we kind of went, "Yeah".

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We gave him the nod, didn't we?

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Cos it was a bit more than a 10% discretion, but you didn't want to take them home.

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So they're gone, £80.

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The price was close to the reserve, so the auctioneer did the right thing

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in checking with us to see if we were happy to let the greyhounds go.

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And Generys and Meryl were more than happy to be going home with the money.

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Now it's Gillian's box-set toy collection.

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Boys and their toys. But in this case, it's girls. It's Gillian's!

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-And they're boxed.

-Yes.

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You obviously said, "Dad, buy me some cars."

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I loved cars, yes.

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I couldn't decide whether I was a boy or a girl, I think!

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I liked boys' toys as well as girls'.

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They are very collectable, especially with the boxes, that's sometimes 30% of the value.

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-I'd always put them back in the boxes.

-What a diligent girl she was.

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I used to take mine out of the box and chuck the box.

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Yeah, well, I don't even know if I've got any.

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I still put things back in boxes, I'm terrible for it.

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-Look, we've pitched for around about £40-50.

-30-50 estimate.

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-It might make a bit more than that.

-They should do.

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-What's your prediction? 60?

-Yes, £60.

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Hopefully a little bit more, but 60 is a good starting point.

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It depends how many toy collectors there are here, because there's not many toys here.

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-No.

-There's one other lot, so it won't encourage...

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-That's the danger.

-Yes. It won't encourage too many collectors to come here.

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-But it is online.

-Yep.

-And everything gets found, it seems.

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Let's find out what the bidders think, shall we?

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Here we go, this is it.

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Three boxed Dinky cars. McLaren patrol car, Dinky 164.

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Nice, and there's a Sea King helicopter as well.

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467, a nice selection. £100?

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100? Give me 80.

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50?

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50 I am bid at 50. 50 bid.

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-At 50.

-Straight in, 50, good.

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50 bid, 60 anywhere?

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At 50, 50 bid. Is there 60?

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£50 only.

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Online, the bid. At £50.

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Is there 60? At £50 only.

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I think that's about their money.

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I haven't got a reserve, but it's a poor price. 60 bid.

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60, have another go.

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At 60, £60. Is there 70? 70 bid. 80.

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80 bid. 80. And again now.

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£80. 90?

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-Yes.

-90 I'm bid.

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It's a little bit better.

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He's teasing the bids out of these people online.

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Level money would be nice. At £90 only.

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Online. 90 is online. Can you give me 100?

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Yes. £100.

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The collectors are sitting at home, pushing a few buttons.

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I can imagine the toy collectors.

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Surrounded by toys around the computer.

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-£100 online.

-And 10.

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110, 110 bid.

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And again?

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£110, final call.

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110.

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-Gillian, happy?

-I'm very happy cos I forgot I'd got them

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and I nearly didn't get them out at the valuation day.

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And we got the top end of the estimate.

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-We did, we got over, £110 was good.

-Very good.

-Thank you very much.

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What a fantastic result for Gillian.

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Collectors just love items that are fresh to the market,

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and if they're up for auction, or on the internet, they'll be uncovered.

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Now I'm off to uncover some rich sounds of Wales's musical past.

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Wales is known as the land of the song.

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Male voice choirs boom out across the valleys, and music is considered

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to be the cement of the Welsh identity.

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All through history music has been of huge importance to the Welsh.

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In fact, back in medieval times, music was so important

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that musicians, or bards, occupied a privileged position in Welsh society.

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They used poetry and music to celebrate victory in battle, or to

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add expression to national or religious sentiments.

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They had a high status in life.

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You could say they had a good gig because they didn't pay any

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taxes, and they were also exempt from military service.

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The Welsh bards generally played one of three instruments -

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The harp, the pipe and a third which not many people have heard of.

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It's called the crwth.

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The earliest known reference to a crwth goes back around to the 11th century.

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And that was played throughout Europe, but it survived the longest

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in Wales, going right through to the 19th century.

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However, once the versatile and more powerful fiddle came along,

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the crwth was increasingly seen as old-fashioned.

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By the end of the 18th century, nobody was playing it.

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So complete was the abandonment of the instrument, that only three are known to have survived.

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And those, thank goodness, are in various Welsh museums.

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But a resurgence of interest in traditional Welsh folk music has

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inspired a few musicians to try and unravel the mysteries of the crwth, using modern reproductions.

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And I've come to meet one of them, Cass Meurig, who released the

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world's first CD of crwth music in 2004.

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Lovely. There was so much going on there, so many subtleties.

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If you weren't looking, it sounded like three or four people playing.

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It's got a lot of volume to it.

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Well you have to be quite loud, because in the Middle Ages, you didn't have amplification.

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And they would have played for dancing as well as for listening.

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And probably accompanied singers.

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How many people are playing this today, do you think, in Wales?

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Well, there are crwth players and crwth owners.

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OK!

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There are probably at least 20 people in Wales that own a crwth.

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There are lots of people in America that own crwths, because they e-mail me quite a lot.

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-It's very popular in the States?

-Well, it's not popular, but there

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are a handful of nutters that are having a go at it!

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And there are probably about three of us that really take it seriously.

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Of whom, two of us do it professionally, I suppose, so not very many.

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It's a wonderful tradition. Show me how you achieve some of those sounds.

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They've actually got names, the strings, in Welsh.

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These are the crasdannau, or the sharp string.

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These are the cyweirdannau, or the key string. And these are the llorfdannau,

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or the crowd string. The one that makes the racket.

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Wow. There's a straight bridge there, unlike a violin or a cello. Why is that straight?

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So that you can play six strings at once.

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-All at once?

-That's the really unusual feature of the crwth.

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-Just play two strings for me and then play six. Let's hear the difference.

-Well, here's one.

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Here's two.

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And here's all six.

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Before taking up the crwth, Cass was an accomplished fiddle player,

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but it still took five hard years to master this medieval instrument.

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That's because the techniques of crwth playing, and the music,

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were not written down, but passed orally from one musician to the next.

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But one thing we can be sure about is that the repertoire for the crwth was very distinctive.

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The crwth only plays crwth music, you can't persuade it really to play anything it doesn't want to play.

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It has a certain range, it has a certain range of noises it makes.

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It has a certain range of things it's happy to do.

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So I think, as a fiddle player, that's the first thing you have to learn, forget

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all the things you would like to do on it, and learn what the crwth would like you to do.

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That's lovely. It really is.

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You can see they've used a lot of wood in the construction.

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This was all one piece of sycamore originally. And it's actually hollowed out of that one piece.

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There's quite a wastage of wood.

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-Yes there is.

-Beautifully shaped at the back.

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And then a spruce belly laid on top, and a holly fingerboard.

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There's a poem in Welsh describes the crwth, and one line of it is...

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SHE SPEAKS WELSH

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..which means that its neck is like an old man that's bent forward.

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Which is a great description.

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Are many people in Wales curious about this?

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Do they come up to you and talk to you about this?

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Yes. A lot of people are actually aware of the crwth.

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It's got a certain iconic status, in the same way that the harp has, in the history of Welsh music making.

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And people are still aware of the word crwth, and that it was part of Welsh history, really.

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So, a lot of people have been quite intrigued by it.

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And they're usually quite surprised by what it sounds like.

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Because they look at it, I suppose, and expect it to sound a bit like a violin.

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It doesn't. It belongs to a medieval sound-world that's quite unfamiliar to people now.

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Cass, thank you for talking to me today and

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enlightening me on something which I never knew anything about.

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It's a wonderful instrument and I guess the best way to hear it

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is with your fellow musicians, who are getting ready down there.

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-Do you want to join them and play us out?

-Thank you.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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Hearing instruments like the crwth brings the past alive.

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And without the passion and commitment of people like Cass,

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their haunting medieval sound would be lost forever.

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At our valuation day at Bangor University, people are still queuing, hoping to hear the

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music of the sale room and the bang of the gavel when their items go to auction.

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Cerys has brought in a delicate little necklace for Mark to look at.

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Where did you get such a charming necklace?

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I inherited it from my grandmother. I think before that it came from my great-aunt.

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-So, yes, that goes back a little while.

-Quite a long time.

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A hundred years or so. Have you worn it yourself? Do you like wearing it?

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I wore it once for my wedding day. And that's about it.

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It's quite delicate, isn't it? It's not a robust piece of jewellery.

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-Because I got long hair, it just gets tangled up.

-Exactly.

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There's one thing that tells us

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immediately where it comes from and what style it comes from.

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And that's the Art Nouveau period.

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Because you've got these very naturalistic swirls here.

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And the use of the stones, the semi-precious stone of peridot, which actually is a

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charming colour, that tells us it's going to be made round about 1905.

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You've got to think, at that period, Edwardian ladies wore very fitted clothes.

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They were very slim, they were still quite corseted so the necklaces hang

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very well on these high-waisted shirts they wore.

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The other interesting thing about this colour combination, Cerys, is that green and white,

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when worn in the Edwardian period by ladies, is subliminal for the Suffragette Movement.

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They wore green-and-white and purple-and-white.

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So, it could be a hidden message in there. Votes for women.

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And it's 15-carat gold which again is a very Victorian standard of gold.

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We don't get it these days.

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We have nine then we jump immediately up to 18 carat.

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So most of these that I see are nine-carat gold which is actually quite a low grade of gold, really.

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But the 15 just makes it slightly mellower.

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So you've had it all these years.

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Why have you decided to sell it today?

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I knew Flog It! was coming to Bangor.

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-Fantastic.

-I've got no-one to leave it to because there are no female relatives in the family at all.

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-So I thought, well...

-Bring it along, see what it's worth.

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Did you have any high expectations?

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No, because I was always told it was rolled gold, it wasn't real gold at all.

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Oh, so it's nice to find out it's actually 15 carat?

0:27:230:27:26

Yes. I think my mother would be quite shocked because she's always told me,

0:27:260:27:30

oh, it's just a piece of costume jewellery.

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It obviously does have a value.

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And I think it'll appeal to people who like the Art Nouveau

0:27:350:27:38

period as much as it will to somebody who specialises in dealing in antique jewellery.

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I would probably say a sensible estimate is round about £150-200.

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-That's nice.

-Would you be happy with that?

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-Very happy with that.

-And we'll put the reserve on it.

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I do think we ought to reserve it rather than let it go for £50.

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At 150, with 10% discretion on the day.

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-But, hopefully, we might get 200 plus.

-Smashing.

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-Does that please you?

-Very much so.

-You're happy to flog it?

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-For a piece of costume jewellery.

-A piece of rolled gold jewellery.

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Well, we'll see you at the auction and let's hope it sparkles as much as it does here.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

-That just goes to show,

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if you've got a piece of old costume jewellery you're not sure of, it might pay to get it checked out.

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Identifying what people bring in is what our experts are best at.

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And I've spotted a painting that needs a bit of detective work as well.

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What a lovely bluebell wood, look at that!

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I've got bluebell woods near me in Marlborough,

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in Wiltshire, and it's beautiful looking through them.

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-Where's this, do you know?

-Kew.

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Is it? Can I come and join you?

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-So, who's the artist?

-It says, "Bluebells at Kew".

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-Who's the artist?

-George Cockram.

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-Do you know anything about him?

-Nothing at all.

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Any artist that's sold in auction before

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will be in here, and we can find out what sort of form he's got, where he worked, things like that.

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Right. Here we go.

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Cockburn, Cockburn, Cockburn...

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George Cockram. 1861-1950.

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OK, look, he's sold...

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a good dozen here.

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He's painted on the Anglesey coast, which is where we are! I wonder if he spent time up here.

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Well, there's an address here for him.

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-George Cockram...

-Rhosneigr, Anglesey.

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So, he lived up here for a little while.

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So, what do you think that's worth, then?

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I've no idea. Not very much, I suspect.

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Where's it been? Looks like it's been in a damp house.

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-Your damp house?

-Afraid so.

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Gosh.

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-How do you keep yourself warm?!

-It's a bit better now!

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There's a lot of foxing, you've got to look after that.

0:29:440:29:47

-Because it's starting to devalue it.

-Right.

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There's half a dozen pictures here that he did while based in Anglesey.

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Now, this one, that sold in auction for £2,250.

0:29:540:30:00

-That's scary!

-That sold on 7th November 2001, at Halls auction room in Shrewsbury.

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-So, what are you going to do with that now?

-I don't know.

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Put it back in the damp house? Put it on the wall, look after it.

0:30:100:30:13

I'll put it on the wall. Yes, maybe get it...

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-Get it insured.

-Gosh, yes.

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Look after it, because it's worth a couple of thousand.

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-OK, right.

-Obviously...

-Staggering.

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..it needs a little conservation.

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Yes, yes. OK. And a new frame!

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Yeah!

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OK, thanks. Wow!

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She's keeping her painting, so it won't be going off to auction.

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But at least she knows its true value.

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Margaret and Colin have brought a couple of delicate figures that

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look like they've been looked after rather well over the years.

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Thanks for coming. I think these are great fun, aren't they?

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Well, we've enjoyed them.

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Caricature figures of aristocrats, I suppose?

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-Yes, there are, really.

-Where did you get them from?

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Handed down from my mother. She gave them to me about ten years ago.

0:31:020:31:07

So, you remember them from childhood?

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They were in a box, and I don't, really.

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That's probably why they've lasted in such good condition.

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They're quite vulnerable things, because they're wobbly and they've got very thin arms.

0:31:150:31:19

So, you have them on display now?

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I do now, yes.

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-And do you like them?

-I like them.

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-What about you, Colin?

-No, not really.

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She looks as if she's sat on something sharp, doesn't she?!

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She reminds me of an operatic lady, and he's the huntsman, of course.

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So, why are you selling them?

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I've got other things that I want to display now.

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And I don't want to keep them in a box like my mum did.

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So I think, you know, it would be nice for them to be on display somewhere else.

0:31:440:31:49

-And Colin's not keen anyway.

-No. Not keen.

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-Get rid?

-Get rid, I suppose.

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-Yeah.

-Well, they're quite unusual, because they're bisque porcelain made in the '20s in Germany.

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Loads of figures were churned out

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from Germany and France in the '20s, but not many were like this.

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They were more your traditional shepherds, shepherdesses.

0:32:040:32:08

So I think that's what gives them a good look.

0:32:080:32:10

-She's really weird, isn't she?

-Very much.

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-Would they be part of a set, would they?

-Do you know, I haven't seen these before.

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They've got numbers on the back. There's a reference number, 7979, and 7912.

0:32:180:32:23

So presumably that indicated they were part of other series of humorous figures.

0:32:230:32:28

But they must be quite rare now, because I handle thousands

0:32:280:32:31

of items every year, and I can't remember seeing these before.

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-Doesn't necessarily mean they're valuable.

-No.

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I'd estimate them at 40 to 60.

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-Shall we say £40 to 60?

-Yeah.

-Reserve of 40?

0:32:390:32:43

-Yes, that'll be good.

-10% leeway, so if it makes 35, we let them go.

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-Sound all right?

-Yes.

-That's for the pair?

0:32:470:32:49

Yeah, for the pair. Good try, Colin!

0:32:490:32:52

-Always the optimist!

-I think, you know, they should do a little better.

0:32:540:32:58

Great fun. They're really interesting things, so thanks for bringing them, and we'll see.

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It would be nice to be proved wrong and make hundreds.

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-Wouldn't it just?!

-It does happen sometimes!

0:33:050:33:08

-Sometimes, yes.

-But not very often!

-No!

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Well, we'll just see what happens later.

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Anything can happen at auction.

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Now, Pamela and Glyn have brought in a silver mirror for Mark to reflect on.

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Where did you get such a lovely mirror?

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Well, it was left to my mother-in-law by a friend of hers in the late '60s.

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And that's as much as we know about it.

0:33:290:33:31

Wow. So you don't know the date or the age of it or anything like that?

0:33:310:33:35

Only that it's probably early 20th century.

0:33:350:33:38

I think you're absolutely right.

0:33:380:33:41

There's an indication in the design

0:33:410:33:43

that leads you straightaway to think it's early 20th century.

0:33:430:33:46

It's got this rather nice Art Nouveau design on it.

0:33:460:33:49

And it's also hallmarked, which is a good clue.

0:33:490:33:51

But I've looked the hallmark up.

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It's Birmingham, 1904.

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It has a maker's mark, A, J and Z, which is A&J Zimmerman and Co.

0:33:550:34:02

Quite a prolific silversmith of that period.

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The mirror is quite interesting - this is just a small piece of sheet silver.

0:34:050:34:09

This would have been made in a press,

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and then applied to the wooden carcass, and then you've got this lovely velvet background,

0:34:110:34:16

which has faded, but there's still signs it would have been

0:34:160:34:19

a very vibrant sort of bluey-purple colour.

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And it's a charming little object.

0:34:220:34:24

Sometimes, they're photograph frames, of course.

0:34:240:34:27

In this instance, a rather nice mirror, with a bevelled edge on it.

0:34:270:34:31

And altogether, a very appealing little item.

0:34:310:34:34

You've obviously had it as an inherited piece for a number of years.

0:34:340:34:38

Why have you decided to sell it today?

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We just thought we'd come along and see what it was worth.

0:34:400:34:44

And we didn't know if you'd like it or not.

0:34:440:34:46

Oh, no, I love this period.

0:34:460:34:48

I very much like what's generally referred to today as decorative art.

0:34:480:34:52

The Art Nouveau period, the Art Deco period.

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That's the kind of collective area.

0:34:540:34:57

It's just a charming piece. Have you ever thought about the value?

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-No.

-Not really.

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I mean, we think possibly about 150 maybe? That sort of...

0:35:050:35:11

In terms of value, I would probably suggest something like £200 to 300.

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With a reserve of 200, with a 10% discretion on the day.

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But I would hope, actually, it would see its way quite clearly

0:35:190:35:23

past the £200 mark, cos it's a really nice piece.

0:35:230:35:28

There's no damage on it, it's not over-cleaned.

0:35:280:35:31

That's what we want with an item coming into auction.

0:35:310:35:34

People think it's just come from a deceased house.

0:35:340:35:37

And altogether, a very nice commercial object.

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Are you happy to put it in for 200 to 300?

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-Yes.

-Wonderful. I look forward to seeing you at the auction.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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That's our last set of items ready to take off to the auction. And the auctioneer wants

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to take a closer look in the mirror.

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We're about to find out if £200 to 300 is a true reflection on the price of this Art Nouveau mirror.

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It's absolutely stunning.

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It is. It's a super mirror. Quality right from start to finish.

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Untouched, super quality.

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If it doesn't fly through, we'll all go home!

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The thing is, it's so practical and so useful, but also exceptionally beautiful.

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Yeah. I'm loath to say it, Paul, but I suppose it would be even more attractive as a photo frame.

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Slightly more practical in this day and age.

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-A nice photograph.

-Family photographs, this sort of thing.

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-But let's not knock it.

-It's not been out of that backing, so...

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It would be a shame for anybody to fiddle about with it. It's a super, super piece.

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Praise indeed, but will the bidders agree?

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We'll find out a bit later.

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Also up for sale are the quirky bisque figures brought in by Margaret and Colin.

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And the beautiful gold necklace Cerys thought was a piece of costume jewellery.

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And it's Cerys' necklace which is first under the hammer.

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This has been in the family for about three generations?

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-A long time.

-A long, long, long time?!

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-Why are you selling this?

-Well, I've got no-one to leave it to.

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I'm the last of the female line of our family.

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There's only boys, and they don't want it.

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It's very dressy, very.

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And so nice, being 15 carats.

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I wore it when I got married, something old. It's had its day.

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That's nice. Something special.

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We've got £150 to 200 on this.

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Let's hope we get the top end. It's going under the hammer now.

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Very, very nice, 15-carat gold,

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Art Nouveau peridot and sea-pearl scroll pendant

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with a fine, fine necklace.

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376, bid me 150.

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150. 120 I am bid. 120. Lot 376.

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-120. 30, 40, 50, 60.

-We've sold it.

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70, 80.

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-They love it, they love it.

-My bid, 190. 190 in the room.

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At 190.

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Final call at 190. 200 I'll take.

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190. Everybody done at £190? Anybody else coming in?

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At £190.

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All done at 190.

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-£190!

-That's a result, isn't it?!

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Very good. You've got to be happy with that?

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I am very pleased with it.

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-Top end of the estimate.

-Yep.

-What a fabulous result.

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That was well spotted by our experts at the valuation day.

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Next, the bisque figures brought along by Margaret.

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We've got the figures, but we don't have Margaret. But we do have her best friend for 60 years. Elwen?

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-Did I get that right?

-Yes.

-That's a good Welsh name.

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-And you speak fluent Welsh?

-I do.

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So, "Welcome to Flog It!, everybody," in fluent Welsh. Go on.

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SHE SPEAKS WELSH

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What do you think about that?

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Well, I knew that, but I don't know any more!

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Did you ever see these figures?

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-I did.

-And do you like them?

-I do.

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Are you going to have a bid?

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-No!

-Not that much!

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Good luck, everybody. Here we go.

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Very interesting humorous pair of continental figures.

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A gentleman jockey and a lady singer.

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Bid me 50.

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Two interesting lots there. Gentleman jockey, lady singer.

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25, I'm bid at 25. 30 anywhere?

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At 25. 25 bid. Is there 30?

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-At 25. 28, 30.

-We're getting there.

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Five again now.

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£30 only. Is there five?

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Nice pair of humorous figurines, these, at £30. Have you five?

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At £30 only. Is everybody done?

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Five I'll take. All finished now. On we march.

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No. He didn't put the hammer down.

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We had £30. We've got a £40 discretionary reserve.

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I really think they should have made that.

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So do I. So do I.

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-Have you seen anything like that before?

-No.

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I thought they'd do the top end. I was thinking the top end.

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You're going to have to tell her the bad news, aren't you?

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-She won't mind.

-Let's say it was fate, meant to happen. She was meant to hang on to them.

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Well, auctions are unpredictable,

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but the auctioneer did the right thing there by not letting them go for £30,

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because they're definitely worth more than that.

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Now, would the bidders be more interested in Pamela and Glyn's mirror? I wouldn't be selling this.

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This is what's known as a keeper in the trade, for me.

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It isn't of any sentimental value to us, and it's just stuck in a cupboard.

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-If I had it out, it would have to be cleaned, and then that devalues it, doesn't it, by cleaning it?

-Yes.

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I don't like silver looking dirty.

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Well, it's just a stunning, stunning mirror.

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I had a chat the auctioneer before the sale started,

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and we both agreed, top end of the valuation.

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Yes, I think I was a little bit "come and get me"

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on this with £200, because it is nice, fresh to the market, and they love that, don't they?

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-It just has so much style.

-It has been in a cupboard for about 50 years.

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-And it will suit any interior.

-Absolutely.

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And it's a practical, useful thing. Not only decorative - very practical and useful.

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And that was one of William Morris' philosophies.

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Absolutely. Decorative and very practical.

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And it's going to find a new home, and we're going to see right now.

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An extremely fine Art Nouveau silver easel mirror.

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You do not get quality like this every day of the week,

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in all honesty.

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Art Nouveau style. It belts it out, doesn't it?

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Birmingham, 1904.

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Hold on to your whatevers. Lot 332 starts at 540. 540 bid.

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-Ooh!

-Straight in at 540!

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You do have to pay for quality.

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560. 600. 600 bid. At 600. 625.

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At 625. 650 anywhere? At 625.

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Everybody done?

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625 on the telephone.

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£625!

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You don't get chances like this every day for this sort of quality.

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625 on the phone.

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Everybody done?

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Final call at 625.

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£625. Bang!

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And that's a sold sound. What do you think about that?

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-Well, amazed.

-A bit shocked?

-Yes.

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We are a bit taken aback as well.

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-Very happy with that one.

-Gosh.

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What will you put the money towards?

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We'll put half of it towards the Prostate Cancer Fund,

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and half towards

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taking the family out for a nice day out.

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And Glyn's going to buy something later on.

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-Something for you?

-Something for him.

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Well, something for us!

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-Wonderful result.

-Thank you very much.

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Pleasure, and thank you for bringing such a wonderful item.

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We always say quality sells and that mirror proved it, going for more than double Mark's top estimate.

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If you've got any unwanted antiques and collectibles you'd like to sell,

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bring them along to one of our valuation days.

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This is where it all starts.

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