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The bracing sea air. People first came here in the 18th century on doctor's orders, believe it or not,

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because they were extolling the virtues of the salt water to invigorate a bit more life into you.

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And they've been coming back ever since.

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But people should enjoy it even more today as Flog It is here in Worthing on the Sussex coast.

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This is where it starts, a Flog It valuation day.

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And today we're in this magnificent building,

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the Pavilion Theatre in Worthing.

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Hundreds of people have turned up, laden with bags and boxes.

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Who knows what treasures we'll find?

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-It's 9.30 and time to get the doors open. What are you going to do?

-ALL: Flog It!

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'We have a full team of experts promenading amongst our owners at the end of the pier.

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'In the lead are Michael Baggott, an antiques boffin who seems to know a thing or two about future trends.'

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-Keep it. Come back to Flog It in four years' time.

-I will do that.

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And then whoever's there will go, "Can't believe it."

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'And David Fletcher, who cites Arthur Negus and Going For A Song

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'as one of the reasons he got into the business.'

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-It's not worth a fortune.

-It's not worth 10,000?

-No, it's not worth 10,000. Might be worth a tenner.

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'Coming up - Michael makes a few strategic moves.'

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Checkmate.

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Well done. Good game.

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'And David uses his intuition, but will he be proved right?'

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Now, I've seen nothing quite like him before, so I'm going to be stabbing in the dark a bit.

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'And I visit Christopher Lloyd's gardens at Great Dixter.'

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Just breathtaking.

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Well, everybody is now safely seated inside the Pavilion. There's a great atmosphere.

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-You're all happy, aren't you?

-ALL: Yes!

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Who'll go home with lots of money?

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It could be this person here as Michael has found a gem. Let's take a closer look.

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-Pat?

-Yes?

-First of all, thank you

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for bringing this wonderful set in.

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Um... Where did you get it from?

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It was my father's.

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I don't know where he got it from. He's never played with it.

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-It's just been stuck in the cupboard.

-Oh, no. Really?

-Yes.

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-Yes.

-Stuck away. And did he tell you where he got it from or any idea...?

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-No. No.

-Oh, dear.

-I haven't a clue where it came from.

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It's unusual because normally you see these sets incomplete or with a little damage or with a knock.

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People will think, "That's a peculiar chess set," as we're very familiar

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with the standard pattern of chess set that we get now, which was first done by Jaques,

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their Staunton pattern.

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You've got the turreted castle, not this turned finial.

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Of course, the king looks nothing like that. He's got a little crown with a cross on top.

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Now, the Staunton pattern sets, I think came out in about the 1850s.

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Before that, you've got a number of different makers producing their own patterns.

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-And a lot of these were influenced by Chinese and Indian sets.

-Yes.

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Now, at first I thought this set was ivory.

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-Yes.

-But if we look, we've got these tiny black flecks, which are little vesicles, which you get in bone.

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So it's actually a turned bone set.

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They've left these pieces undyed

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and these are stained red.

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-And that's quite common to get a white and a red set, rather than a white and a black set.

-Black.

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And in terms of date,

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they're around 1835 up to 1850 in date.

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-Gosh.

-Where it was made is a little bit more difficult.

-Yes.

-But we know the date. We know the material.

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And we know, to a chess fanatic or someone who likes playing chess sort of habitually,

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-it's lovely to have different boards to play.

-Yes.

-And I think this is a delight.

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-Any idea of what the value is?

-Well, my son went on the internet to have it valued as he thought it was ivory.

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-And the valuation for that was about £500.

-Right. Ivory sets are incredibly sought after.

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And a set of this pattern in ivory might be £800 to £1,200.

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-Golly.

-An original Staunton set, £7,000, £10,000.

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-£15,000, if it's in its original box.

-Oh, gosh!

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Bone, I have to bring you back down to earth.

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Bone are very much more abundant.

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-But this set is in lovely order.

-Yes.

-And it's got its board, so let's put £150 to £250 on it.

-Yes.

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Let's put a fixed reserve of 140 on it. It won't go for a penny below that.

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-And with any luck two chess fanatics will just get carried away at the auction.

-Lovely.

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-So we'll put it in for you. Do you play, Pat?

-I do, but not very well, because I haven't played for years.

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Well, white moves first. It's your move, Pat.

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You're testing me now.

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You're testing me. I don't know what to do. There we go.

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'Well, as you can see, Michael's a bit chess mad,

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'so Pat's come to the right place.

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'While the rest of us are busy looking for antiques...

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'..the game continues.'

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Checkmate.

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Well done. Good game.

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'Wow, what a bonus! Time to catch up with David, who's having a look at an Art Deco piece,

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'brought along by Jason.'

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-You've brought along a clock.

-Yes.

-What can you tell me about it?

-Not much. It was my nan's uncle's.

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-Do you know anything about the Art Deco style?

-Very little.

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The Art Deco style is characterised by bold geometric shapes.

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So this rectangular shape is absolutely typical.

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-I'm interested that it's in an onyx case.

-So that's what it is?

-It's onyx, yes, a sort of green marble,

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which suggests a relatively early date, really.

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We all know about the recession which hit America, in particular, in the late 1920s.

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And from that date on,

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-you tend to find less exotic marbles being used in the cases of these clocks than onyx.

-Right.

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So I think this is going to date from before 1930, so that all adds up.

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And it's by Mappin and Webb.

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-Is that important? Is that a good name?

-Mappin and Webb is a good name.

-Yeah.

-Not the best.

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Had it have been Garrard or Tiffany

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-or Cartier, it would've been better. But Mappin and Webb is pretty good, really.

-Yeah.

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-Tell me, why are you thinking of selling it?

-It's sitting on a corner in a dark room gathering dust.

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-It has got a bit of dust on it. I noticed that.

-All authentic.

-All authentic dust. You don't use it?

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-No.

-Does it work, do you know?

-It does.

-It does. OK.

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Have you any idea what it might be worth?

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-£40, £50?

-40 to 50, I don't think you're far out.

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In fact, I think you should be a valuer, because that's exactly what I was going to say.

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I reckon we should put an estimate on this of £40 to £60. It might make a bit more with a bit of luck.

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But I would suggest a reserve beneath the bottom estimate of, say, £35.

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-OK.

-Is that all right with you?

-That is, yes.

-OK. We'll go ahead along those lines then.

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-And I'll look forward to seeing you at the sale.

-OK.

-Thank you.

-Cheers.

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'It's a good-looking Art Deco clock,

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'so it deserves to have a little bit more limelight.

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'Someone who is not usually in the limelight is Pippa Deeley, one of our off-screen jewellery experts.'

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-I notice you're not wearing any diamonds, Pippa.

-I know.

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We should do something about that, shouldn't we?

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'Back to Michael, who's excited by some family silver that Marilyn has brought along.'

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You may not know, and a lot of our viewers may not know,

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-but I'm a member of a society, and it is the Silver Spoon Club...

-Really?

-..of Great Britain.

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-Good Lord.

-And look what you have brought me, Marilyn - silver spoons!

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-So are these something that you've collected?

-No.

-Where have they come from?

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-They were my mother-in-law's. And I think they've come down to her, I think.

-Right. Right.

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Any of these initials family names?

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Well, the only one that I've noticed is that one - "MH".

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-Now, my father-in-law's mother's name was Hawling.

-Ah.

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-So I wondered if that "H" had anything to do with that?

-Possibly.

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Possibly. These are often...

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This is a prime example of a marriage initial.

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So you have the surname at the top.

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And then you've got the husband,

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being the 18th century, first, and the wife second.

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-Yes.

-These are all individual sets of initials,

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so these would've been the owner.

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-And often they're given as a christening gift.

-Right.

-That would be your spoon for life.

-Yes.

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Although when we move the date that these are,

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mid-18th century, you do tend to see them more rather in sets,

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rather than individual spoons.

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We'd better get the pattern out of the way as patterns are very important. And these are Hanoverian.

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-Are they?

-Because unlike old English, the stem turns up.

-Oh, right.

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And that was meant because you sat them that way at the table.

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-Yes.

-And Hanoverian pattern comes in very early in 1709, 1710.

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-Good grief!

-And then it goes right through it.

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It can be as late as this, which is the latest, which is 1776.

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-Is it?

-They're all London made.

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That make is Ebenezer Coker.

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And those series of punches will date it between

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1739 and 1755.

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That one's by a man called Robert Sallam.

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And that was made in London in 1763.

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This one is probably by John Lamfert.

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And is 1766.

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And the last one is by Charles Hougham.

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And that's London 1776.

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-Right. Any idea of what they're worth?

-None at all.

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-It's not huge figures, which is why I think more people should be collecting them!

-Yes.

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Because they're, you know, they're eminently collectable. And they're perfect as a start for somebody.

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-On the market, they're between £30 and £50 each.

-Oh, right.

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So if we put them into auction between £120 and £200, they'll find their level somewhere in between.

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And put a fixed reserve of £120 on them.

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-If you're happy for us to put them in, we'll do that?

-I think so, yes.

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Hopefully there'll be lots of spoon collectors there.

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-I'll certainly let them know.

-Thank you. That was fascinating.

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We are now halfway through our day. I've escaped the mayhem to get a bit of fresh air

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before we go to the auction room. Here's what we're taking with us.

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Pat's chess set could give a lot of pleasure,

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so it's a good move to get it into the saleroom.

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Art Deco has a keen following, so Jason's mantel clock should attract a buyer.

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We just need a few fellow members of The Silver Spoon Club at the auction room

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and Marilyn's family silver is on its way.

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There's our first batch of items and this is where we're putting them under the hammer.

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This is where it gets exciting - Denham's Auctioneers in Warnham.

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You've heard what our experts have had to say.

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But ultimately, it's down to the bidders.

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So let's get inside. And fingers crossed, we've got some big surprises.

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What do you say for that? 110. 120.

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Now 120 then. Are we done and selling? At £120.

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You could say it's game on, which brings us nicely to this lovely chess set belonging to Pat.

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-It's all made of bone. Beautiful. We've got a valuation of £150 to £250.

-It's worth that.

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I think chess sets are a really good investment.

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-If you love a game like that...

-You've got to have a good set.

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A good board and a set new is maybe £150, £200?

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-Buy an antique one.

-Exactly. Even if it doesn't have a board, you can pick up a pretty good board.

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But always invest in a quality chess set.

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And even the basic wooden ones, as long as they're weighted with lead - wonderful feel to them.

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Let's hope the bidders want to buy this chess set because it's going under the hammer right now.

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The red and white carved chess set,

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complete with games compendium box. There it is.

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What do we say for this one? £100 for it, do we say? 75 then? I'm bid 50.

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-And five.

-It's very low.

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70. And five. 80. And five.

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-90.

-Come on, more. More.

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£90 then. Are we all done? Selling at £90 then.

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You're done with it at 90. At £90 then... Can't sell that at 90.

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He didn't sell it and he was just telling everybody

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-that it didn't reach the reserve.

-Yes.

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-Never mind.

-But it's worth that. And I think you should go back home.

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-Get it out and start playing again.

-Even just display it, as it looks wonderful.

-Yes.

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Thank goodness we put a fixed reserve on that.

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'It's always worth protecting something good with a reserve.

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'Now for some Art Deco.'

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Our next item belongs to Jason, who unfortunately can't be with us.

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But you'll remember that he brought in that little Art Deco clock made by Mappin and Webb.

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David, our expert, has put £40 to £60 on this. Hopefully, it's going to fly away.

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Art Deco's very fashionable today.

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Mappin and Webb, as you say, a good maker. It would've been better still had it been Asprey's or Garrard's.

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Well, then it would be £100 to £200.

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Let's see what the bidders think. Time is up for the Art Deco clock.

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Nice little clock, this one.

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The Art Deco clock in the marble case. What do we say for this one?

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I'm bid 20. And two. 24.

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26. 28. 30.

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And five.

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40. And five.

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-We're there.

-Yes.

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We're now at £45 then. Are we done and selling now at £45?

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45, are you...?

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-Yes! Well done. Within estimate, £45.

-Yep.

-That's good.

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-I think you should get on the phone and let him know.

-OK. I'll do it now.

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'I think Jason will be pleased with that.

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'Now for those lovely Georgian spoons belonging to Marilyn's son.'

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I must say, cracking lot. It's a nice little collection.

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-Had you started to collect?

-No. They belonged to my mother-in-law.

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And when she died in her nineties,

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well, my son just literally went to the table and said, "Well, I'll have those."

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-He picked up the silver spoons with some other stuff. It was as arbitrary as that.

-And your son's here today.

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-And your granddaughter. What's her name?

-Evie.

-Evie.

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Look, waving at us now. Aw!

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So let's find out what the bidders think. Good luck.

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Four antique, silver bottom-marked spoons

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or English pattern spoons, there.

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I'm bid 70. And five. 80. And five.

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90. And five.

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100. And ten.

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There we go. A silver spoon will never let you down, Paul.

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120. We're now at 120 then.

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Are we done and selling now?

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At £120. All done and selling at 120, are we?

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-Spot on, Michael.

-Thank you, Paul.

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If you want to start collecting something like that,

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start with early silver spoons. You can't go wrong. Thanks for bringing them in.

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'I'm a bit surprised they didn't go a little higher. But what a great start for a collection!'

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Are we done and selling? At £50 then...

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Now, while I'm here in Sussex, I'm off to visit a place I've wanted to see for many years.

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This is Great Dixter, an idyllic house in a heavenly setting in the Sussex Weald.

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It is a place of pilgrimage for many people because it was the home of the late Christopher Lloyd,

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one of the most remarkable of British gardeners.

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Christopher was known for being witty and opinionated.

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And his rise to fame came from the gardening books and the magazine and newspaper articles that he wrote.

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And he spent much of his life here, putting his ideas into practice.

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And many of them, you could say, were revolutionary.

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Sadly, Christopher died in 2006.

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But thankfully, not before setting up a charitable trust,

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so the garden here at Great Dixter could flourish.

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Christopher grew up here with his parents and four brothers and a sister.

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His father Nathaniel had employed the architect, Edwin Lutyens,

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to restore and enlarge the house in the then popular Arts and Crafts manner.

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At the same time, Lutyens set out the framework for the garden,

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incorporating many old farm buildings, in a formal style radiating out from the house.

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And this gave Christopher's father the opportunity to indulge his enthusiasm for topiary.

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And over the decades they've grown into marvellous, majestic, magnificent shapes.

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And this gave Christopher the framework for his later flower planting.

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I was very lucky to be presented with a ready-made skeleton for the garden.

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It was lovely to be able to put flesh on the bones.

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It was also fortunate

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that I didn't have to make the bones myself

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because I'm no good at that at all.

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But it was Christopher's mother Daisy, not his father,

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who was the real gardener in the family.

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It was she who first planted out the borders.

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She had a particular love of wild flowers.

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And it's wonderful to see the meadows that she planted are still thriving here at Great Dixter today.

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But I'm not sure she'd recognise some planting that Christopher brought to the garden.

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It's only when you look around, you can see his approach is so bold and unconventional.

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Who'd have thought that all of these bright colours would mix together in harmony at such wonderful heights?

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So who better to talk to than Fergus Garrett, who worked with Christopher as head gardener for many years?

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Christopher described Fergus as brilliant and creative.

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You must've learnt a lot from him?

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Oh, absolutely. And you know what I've learnt? It's to be free.

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And not to be dictated to. There are various rules you have to obey in a garden.

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There are rules of ecology. And if you put a dry, shade-loving plant in a wet, moist area,

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then it's not going to survive. So there's no point in you even thinking about the combination.

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Other than that, it's an expression of your taste.

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Christopher thought, "Well, I'm going to go ahead and do whatever pleases me.

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"And at least I'm pleasing one person and that's myself."

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-Did you ever fall out with him over ideas?

-All the time.

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I mean, I never ever forgot that it was his garden.

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But if I thought that something wasn't going to work, I'd say.

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I think he wanted me to say to him. And in the same way, if I thought that I was wrong on something

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and he was right, I'd admit it and he'd do the same. And it worked really well.

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But a lot of thought has gone into there. I couldn't go and do that and throw a load of plants there.

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Yes. It's very complex, actually,

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because you want things to look natural in their setting. But there are many seasons in there as well.

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And you've got the framework of all these shrubs in here

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and layers and layers of plants. So you may have one plant come up.

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Then another one takes over. Climbers go over the top of the shrubs. So you have something for every season.

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And that's the excitement of a garden.

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I love the little colours, the big colours, and also the big, broad leaves that go with it.

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It's just absolutely brilliant.

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Our planting style is to mimic what happens in nature, in a way.

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We want plants to look very comfortable in their setting, as if they've just landed here.

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If you took Christopher Lloyd to one side and said,

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-"What's most important in a plant?" He'd say, "Shape, more than colour."

-Really?

-Yes, absolutely.

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What a beautiful and romantic place this is.

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I've thoroughly enjoyed my time filming here today.

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And all I can say is, if you're unsure about planting up with mixed colours,

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lots of hot colours together, come here, because it will certainly change your opinion.

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It's just breathtaking. And it's clear talking to Fergus that he shares Christopher's vision,

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so the gardens are going to be in safe hands.

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I think it's only fitting that we leave the last word to Christopher Lloyd himself,

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a man full of inspiration and talent.

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Every generation has to make its mark in its own way.

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I think that copying the past is a cop-out.

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I don't fear in the least about what will happen

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to the garden design or its contents when I'm dead

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because it's somebody else's turn.

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Welcome back to our valuation day at the Pavilion Theatre in Worthing.

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We've still got pretty much a full house.

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It's time for Act Two, so let's catch up with our experts to see what they're up to.

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The heat and the tension is really rising here.

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Can I borrow this for a second? Phew!

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I'm off.

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'Our next owner, Liv, has brought something in that's got David rather foxed.'

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Now you're going to have to explain what this is to me. I'm mystified.

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This is a nutcracker.

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A nutcracker, right.

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And it's a nutcracker for special nuts,

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which are for macadamia nuts...

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-Oh, right.

-..which have a very, very hard shell, they say.

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-Right.

-I'll show you how to do it.

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So I swing the handle like that.

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And you put the nut in there.

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And now... LOUD CRACK

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-Like that.

-Gosh.

-And hopefully the nut is cracked by now.

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-It works, I'm sure.

-I'm sure it does, yes.

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Well, talk about using a sledgehammer to crack a nut!

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-This is the very embodiment of that sentiment, isn't it?

-Absolutely.

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It's described as being "anvil craft".

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And it's manufactured, I see,

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by a factory operating out of Gladstone Street in T'mba,

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which I wouldn't have known, but that's in Queensland.

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-Are you aware of any Australian connection?

-Yes, there is actually.

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-Right.

-I got this one from my now ex-husband.

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-Right.

-He got it from his first ex-wife.

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Right.

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And she and her family are in Australia.

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Well, that seems to be it, doesn't it? I mean, we seem to have cracked it. No pun intended.

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So your husband got the house and the car. And you got the nutcracker?

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Um... No, it wasn't actually like that.

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Good. I'm pleased to hear it.

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I don't think there's very much you can say about it,

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except that someone has quite consciously attempted to make a decorative item

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out of something which is really just useful.

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William Morris would be spinning in his grave at the sight of this,

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because William Morris believed that form should follow function,

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and didn't approve of unnecessary ornamentation.

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And this really is more or less entirely unnecessary.

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I mean, you could put the nut in there and hit it hard with a hammer

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-and it would do exactly the same.

-Absolutely.

-There's something a bit laddish about it, isn't there?

-Yes.

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You could imagine the chaps sitting round in a bar in Australia somewhere,

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drinking their lager and cracking their nuts on this.

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Have you ever used it in anger?

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No, I've never tried it, actually, because my feeling is that if you put a walnut or a hazelnut,

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-you've got nuts and nut shells everywhere.

-It would just turn it to pulp, wouldn't it?

-Absolutely.

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-And perish the thought, but if you got your thumb stuck in there, it doesn't bear thinking about.

-No.

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Now, do I really need to ask you why you've decided to divest yourself of this nutcracker?

0:26:130:26:19

-No, it's the same old story, that I'm downsizing, moving to a smaller flat.

-Right.

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-And this is just another piece of...

-Clutter?

-Clutter, yes, which you have to carry with you.

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I was just thinking, if you had a list of 20 things you'd want to get rid of in the downsizing process,

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-this would probably be top of the list.

-Absolutely.

-I don't mean to be rude about it.

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-But it has its limitations, doesn't it?

-Absolutely.

-Well, certainly in a visual sense.

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As a piece of engineering, it's fantastic. But let's hope somebody likes it.

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I don't know if there are collectors of nutcrackers out there. But if there are, if they're serious,

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they'd certainly want to own this. Let's hope that person is out there.

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I think what we've got to do, seriously, is go easy on the estimate.

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Because I would hate to put an estimate of £100 to £150 on this and not sell it.

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-And if we did, we wouldn't sell it.

-No.

-So if you're philosophical about it,

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and would agree to an estimate of say, £20 to £30,

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and crucially, agree to offer it up without reserve,

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-then we've got a deal.

-That's fine, yes. That sounds good.

0:27:240:27:28

-Jolly good. We'll go ahead on that basis. I look forward to seeing you at the sale.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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'For once I can understand why Liv is trying to move this one on.'

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-It's hot in here, though, isn't it?

-Yes.

-It really is. Temperatures are rising.

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'Next, Michael has found a couple of figures belonging to Karl, which are somewhat more delicate.'

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Karl, thank you for bringing in these very attractive figures.

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Are you a diehard porcelain collector? Where did these come from?

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-I bought them off somebody in the local newspaper.

-Really?

-Yes.

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They were advertised as French, possibly Samson figures.

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Right. Did they give you any idea of date?

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1880, but um... Possibly. I'll probably be proven wrong.

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Let's have a look at this chap.

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The first thing we've got

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is we've got this very bright gilt band.

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And you get gilding on 18th-century figures sometimes.

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But it isn't this bright metallic finish.

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-OK.

-So this is more typical of early 20th-century figurines.

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If we turn it over...

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Blast!

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-We don't have a factory mark.

-No mark!

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It's not uncommon for a lot of the minor German, and sometimes even Italian factories,

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not to have a mark on the base of the figurines.

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-And the only thing is, it does tend to hold the value back slightly.

-Right.

0:28:570:29:02

What you want to see when you turn these over are the crossed swords of Meissen.

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Or even a mark for Sitzendorf, one of the larger more famous factories.

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We've got a visible seam mark there.

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Now, if it was a very good factory, they'd have tidied that up.

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It's obviously been in a mould. It just needs a bit of hand finishing.

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But they haven't gone to that care.

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I think from their costume,

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you can tell that these are modelled on 18th-century figures.

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They're after that vogue in 1740, 1750, for these little figures.

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But when these were made,

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and I think 1900, maybe even 1910 is a better date than 1880,

0:29:410:29:47

these figures were all the rage.

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They have got some good points. The modelling of this dog

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is not bad at all.

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All of this has been hand-painted, all the lines to imitate its fur.

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It's got good points and bad points.

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-So now we get to the thorny question - how much did they cost you?

-£100 I paid.

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That's very fair. I mean, there's no shame in paying £100 for a lovely pair of figurines like this.

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I think at auction we'd be a little bit more cautious.

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But bearing in mind you really want to get most of that money back,

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let's put them in at 80 to 120. Let's put a fixed reserve of £80.

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And hopefully two people will be charmed by them,

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and look at the work involved in them, and just think, "I'll go one more" on the day.

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-So why have you decided to part with them now?

-I thought I'd bring them along here and have a day out.

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Well, hopefully, the day out at the auction will be a profitable one.

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-Hopefully.

-Fingers crossed.

-I'll be happy either way.

-Splendid. Thank you so much for bringing them in.

0:30:450:30:52

'Good show. It's always good to hear that someone has come along to enjoy the day.

0:30:520:30:57

'Glenn has brought in a couple of dolls which could not be more different from each other.'

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Now what can you tell me about these dolls you've brought along with you today?

0:31:030:31:08

-Well, the small one, I was given when I was five.

-Five. Right.

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So I've had him quite a long time.

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And the other one was my daughters'

0:31:150:31:19

-and they've had it probably for about 40 years.

-Do you like them?

-This one? Yes.

-Right.

0:31:190:31:25

-But the other one - no.

-No. OK.

0:31:250:31:28

Let's start by talking about him.

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Now, he's dressed, of course, in stars and stripes,

0:31:300:31:35

which can only suggest, really, that he's Uncle Sam, I think.

0:31:350:31:39

Why don't you like him?

0:31:390:31:42

It's his face!

0:31:420:31:44

His... His... No, he still frightens me now.

0:31:440:31:48

It's strange that they should've chosen a rather sinister face

0:31:480:31:52

for such a sort of totemic figure, really, as Uncle Sam.

0:31:520:31:57

He wasn't made in America, of course.

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That may account for it in part, perhaps.

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If I turn him over and we look on the back of his head,

0:32:030:32:07

he is indeed marked "Germany".

0:32:070:32:10

Right.

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He's bisque-headed,

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which means his head is made of unglazed china.

0:32:140:32:18

I don't think he looks too bad.

0:32:180:32:20

He's got a grin on his face.

0:32:200:32:22

-He looks dishevelled but that's probably because he's been around for a long time.

-Possibly.

0:32:220:32:28

I must be honest, I've never seen a doll like this before.

0:32:280:32:32

-I would suggest he dates from the turn of the century.

-I think so.

0:32:320:32:36

So, in fact, he's 110 years old.

0:32:360:32:38

-As I say, I've seen nothing quite like him before, so I'll be stabbing in the dark.

-Oh, dear.

0:32:380:32:44

-I would've thought that he's got to be worth £60 or £70. It's a hunch, really.

-Yeah.

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On the other hand, if you do find two buyers who want him, he could make a lot more than that.

0:32:500:32:56

So as I say, I am speculating a bit.

0:32:560:32:58

But let's go for £60, shall we,

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-as a reserve?

-OK.

0:33:010:33:03

An estimate, say, of 60 to 100?

0:33:030:33:07

-Mm-hm.

-And um... We'll hope for the best.

0:33:070:33:10

OK. That deals with our American friend.

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And we'll turn now to a rather more conventional doll.

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-And tell me about her.

-It's just "Dolly". That's all she was ever called by my children.

0:33:170:33:24

No-one in the family has ever played with her by the looks of things?

0:33:240:33:28

-Oh, do you not think so?

-I think she looks in pretty good nick.

0:33:280:33:33

-I'm afraid she's been played with and played with.

-She's done well. She's lost one or two of her fingertips.

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Her body will be made of papier mache, but her face has survived. We'll look at the back of her head.

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And it tells us that the doll was made in the Armand Marseille factory,

0:33:450:33:52

which is actually in Koppelsdorf in Germany.

0:33:520:33:55

I think a German manufacturer like this

0:33:550:33:59

would've chosen the name Armand Marseille

0:33:590:34:03

to give it just a suggestion of sophistication.

0:34:030:34:06

French dolls are more saleable now, and they were more expensive when they were new, than German dolls.

0:34:060:34:13

So this dignifies it a bit. It might have deceived people into thinking that it was French but it's German.

0:34:130:34:20

And we know that because it's marked "Germany". Now why are you sending her off to the saleroom?

0:34:200:34:26

-I've only got boys in the family and the girls are grown up.

-OK.

0:34:260:34:31

If a granddaughter comes along, you have to buy another one because this one will have gone by then.

0:34:310:34:37

And I think she's going to make more money because she's more commercial as a doll, really.

0:34:370:34:44

She's pretty. She's got a lovely smile on her face.

0:34:440:34:49

She makes you feel better. Poor Uncle Sam makes you feel a bit worse, perhaps.

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So let's go for an estimate of 100 to 150.

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And I would suggest a reserve just below the bottom estimate of £90.

0:34:590:35:03

-That's fine.

-OK?

-Yes.

0:35:030:35:06

'Well, we'll just have to wait and see how they do.

0:35:060:35:09

'Let's remind ourselves of what our experts picked to take off to the auction.

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'How could anyone forget Liv's nutcracker?

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'But then they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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'Whereas Karl's hand-painted French figures

0:35:220:35:26

'will have much wider appeal.

0:35:260:35:29

'And finally, David speculated a bit about one of Glenn's dolls.

0:35:290:35:33

'So it'll be interesting to see exactly what Uncle Sam makes.'

0:35:330:35:37

130. 140.

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We have 140. Are we done? Selling then...

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'Now for something of a first on Flog It.'

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Going under the hammer right now, we've got a doorstop. Well, of a kind, anyway, haven't we, Liv?

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An Australian nutcracker doorstop.

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I've not seen anything like that before. I also had a play with it.

0:36:000:36:04

You've got to, haven't you, David? It works.

0:36:040:36:07

-I think it's over-engineered.

-I think it is.

-Maybe.

-The design didn't take off, did it?

0:36:070:36:13

-No.

-If it did, I've not seen another one.

-I thought it was quite dangerous as well.

0:36:130:36:18

-Right. OK. I think it's about time we put it under the hammer, don't you?

-Absolutely.

-There's no reserve.

0:36:180:36:24

-It's got to go. You don't want to take it home?

-No.

-Let's flog it. Here we go.

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The Australian nutcracker.

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There it is.

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It's a talking point. What do we say for it?

0:36:340:36:38

£20 for it do we say? Come along now. A real curio.

0:36:380:36:41

-Fingers crossed.

-10 to get us going? Five anywhere?

0:36:410:36:45

-I'm bid five. Six.

-We got some bidding.

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Seven. Eight. Nine. Ten.

0:36:480:36:49

12. 14, are you going? Yours at 12.

0:36:490:36:52

Do I see 14? At £12. 14.

0:36:520:36:54

16. 18.

0:36:540:36:55

-They're going nuts over it.

-What a cracker!

0:36:550:36:59

20. And two.

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24. 26. 28. 30.

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And two?

0:37:040:37:05

Straight down the middle at 30, I'm going to sell. All out at 30, are we?

0:37:050:37:09

£30. Top end of the estimate. Well done. I'm very impressed with that.

0:37:100:37:14

Probably never ever see another one like it. Well done, Liv.

0:37:140:37:18

-Thank you for bringing it in. It's not a lot of money, but it's a great talking point.

-Yeah.

0:37:180:37:23

'And I'm very glad it sold as well as it did.

0:37:230:37:27

'Next, something continental to tempt the bidders.'

0:37:270:37:30

Well, moving along swiftly now.

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We've got a classic 80 to 120 valuation on two French figurines just about to go under the hammer.

0:37:330:37:39

They belong to Karl. Valued by Michael. Will we get the top end?

0:37:390:37:43

The quality's there, but I don't know.

0:37:430:37:46

Bizarrely, when they were made, everybody wanted these figures.

0:37:460:37:50

That's why they were made as there weren't enough of the antique ones to meet demand.

0:37:500:37:55

Well, let's put it to the test here.

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The pair of 19th-century continental porcelain figures.

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There they are. What do you think? £100 for them?

0:38:020:38:05

75 then. Was that 50? I'm bid 50. And five.

0:38:050:38:08

-Someone's interested.

-60. And five. 70. And five.

0:38:080:38:12

80. And five.

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Here we go.

0:38:140:38:15

90. And five. 100. And ten.

0:38:150:38:18

120. With me now at 120 then.

0:38:180:38:21

-That's OK.

-They're coming back into fashion.

-That's good.

0:38:210:38:25

Now at £120 then. Are we all done at 120?

0:38:250:38:29

-You got your money back.

-Yeah.

-Well done. Well done.

0:38:290:38:33

Well, we got it right.

0:38:330:38:36

These things are worth the price that they're worth.

0:38:360:38:39

-But I think for the work that goes into them...

-They're cheap.

-So buy them whilst they're £120 now

0:38:390:38:45

-before they hit 300 again.

-And then put them back on the market in ten years' time.

-Don't hold me to that.

0:38:450:38:51

There is very little that is certain in the antiques world.

0:38:510:38:55

Before the sale started, I caught up with auctioneer Simon Langton.

0:38:580:39:03

Glenn's dolls, she's selling them because she wants to downsize.

0:39:030:39:07

We've got the German bisque head one, which has got a value of £100-£150.

0:39:070:39:12

And little Uncle Sam there, also bisque head. He's got a value of £60 to £100. He's also got a broken leg.

0:39:120:39:18

And she was given Uncle Sam when she was only five,

0:39:180:39:21

so she might regret selling that little fella.

0:39:210:39:24

She's had it a long time.

0:39:240:39:26

-He doesn't take up much room for someone's who's downsizing.

-No.

0:39:260:39:30

But if he's got to go, he's got to go.

0:39:300:39:32

-I would definitely keep that.

-It's quite a rare doll.

0:39:320:39:35

-They came out about 1915, just before the First World War.

-Have many survived?

-This is the question.

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This is the question because £60 to £100 could quite easily turn into 300 to 400, couldn't it?

0:39:420:39:48

-It could do.

-If he's the only one!

-If he's the only one in the world, then yes, the sky's the limit.

0:39:480:39:54

Unfortunately, the market has gone down a little bit in dolls the last two or three years.

0:39:540:40:00

But we have got the right people for dolls and we've got the internet, so we shall see.

0:40:000:40:05

-Fingers crossed.

-Let's hope so.

-He does look a bit frightening, doesn't he?

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Hopefully, we'll have smiles on our faces at the end of the day.

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We've got two wonderful dolls going under the hammer. They belong to Glenn, but she hasn't turned up yet.

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But she might walk in any moment. We're just about to sell the first lot, the German bisque head doll,

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which you put a valuation of 100 to 150, David. And the second one is that wonderful 20th-century one,

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Uncle Sam, again with the bisque head. We've had a chat to the auctioneer. You know what he said.

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The first one, you were right, bang-on.

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-But Uncle Sam is a bit different.

-Why does he look so miserable, do you think?

-I don't know.

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Maybe the person that was moulding his face had a bad day!

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-But he's so miserable, he makes you laugh, doesn't he? He's not frightening.

-No.

-Here we go.

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Armand Marseille porcelain-headed doll. There it is.

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Nice doll, this one.

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What do we say? Bids here start us at 70. And five.

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80. And five. 90. And five.

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100. With me at £100. Looking for the ten.

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And ten. 120. 130, madam?

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Well done.

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With me at 120. All done and selling now at £120 if you're done with it?

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Mid-estimate for the first one. And now the second.

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Glenn might walk in at the moment it makes a lot of money.

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-I find the other dolls quite spooky. I don't like them at all. But I could live with Uncle Sam.

-Yeah.

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Let's find out if this lot could. Here we go.

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Uncle Sam doll.

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There we have him.

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What do we say for him?

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£100 for him, do we say? 75 then?

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50? I'm going to start at 30. And five. 40. And five.

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50. And five. 60. And five.

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Lady's bid at £65. 70.

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And five. 80. And five.

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90. And five. 100.

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-Right. Top end of the estimate.

-130. 140. 150.

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160. 170.

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180. 190.

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-200.

-Do you know, I think Uncle Sam's beginning to smile.

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240. 260.

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280. 300.

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And 20. 340.

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360.

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380.

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400.

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And 20.

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440.

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460. 480.

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500.

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-Undercooked this one, David, a bit.

-I have got dolls wrong before, Paul.

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Well, I wouldn't know what to value them at.

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540. 560?

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560?

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At £540 in the room now. At 5-4-0.

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I'm going to sell at 5-4-0... 560.

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That's auctions. 580.

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600?

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At £580. Are we all done? Are you sure about this? At 5-8-0.

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Going to sell at 5-8-0 now...

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Where is Glenn when you need her?

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Hopefully she'll come running in right now for the golden moment!

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-£580. Who could've predicted that?

-Well, Paul, these things are rare.

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They're scarce. You put an estimate on them. You hope for the best.

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-And sometimes you're lucky enough to get the best.

-We know what they're worth now.

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If you've got anything like that at home, we'd love to see it. Bring it to one of our valuation days.

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And you can pick up details on our website - log on to bbc.co.uk/flogit

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Follow the links and all the information will be there.

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