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Paul Martin is on the Kent coast at Herne Bay with experts Kate Bateman and Mark Stacey. There are smiles and tears as a tiny glass vase turns out to be a big seller.


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The sea, the sand, plenty of sunshine! But more importantly,

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plenty of people all here laden with antiques to have them valued by our experts,

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and today we're in this magnificent building, the Kings Hall

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in Herne Bay on the Kent coastline. And you're watching "Flog It!".

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Look at this! We've got a massive crowd gathering outside our venue,

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this magnificent building, the Kings Hall in Herne Bay

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on the Kent coastline.

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This venue has been used for music recitals, parties,

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and even wrestling. But we don't want any fighting today, do we?

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Because this is "Flog It!", the show where we put your unwanted antiques into auction,

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and today somebody's going to go home with an awful lot of money.

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Hello, there! How are you?

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Show and tell! Get them out!

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Today's experts, Kate Bateman and Mark Stacey,

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are already looking for the most exciting items.

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How weird is that?

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They're lovely.

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Kate once stepped out as a ballet dancer.

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These days she's poised as an auction-house owner.

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EPNS stands for electro-plated nickel silver, so sadly not solid silver.

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You're not going to be selling the family silver today.

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THEY CHATTER

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Stacey grew up in Wales, and started collecting silver in his teens.

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He's now an independent valuer with a taste for Art Nouveau.

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It's a lovely piece. We'll tell you more inside.

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I've got a piece that's got a signature on the bottom.

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Well, let's have a quick look, because I like signatures on bottoms.

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THEY LAUGH

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-There you go.

-Thank you very much.

-Bless you. Good luck!

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Coming up - a little bit of the wild West rides into town.

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He was issued with it by the Pinkerton Detective Agency.

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-Really?

-Yes, for his own protection carrying money.

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And that was in the 1890s.

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We find out that one woman's rubbish is another's treasure.

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-That got the boundary, didn't it?

-Yes! I must go and find some more.

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-Have you got any more?

-Not cricket, but I've got some more rubbish!

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And a charity-shop find knocks us all for six.

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-What are you hoping for?

-I have no idea.

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-I didn't think it was worth anything.

-Really?

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Oh! I knew it had quality, but not that much.

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Find out later just how much quality this little pot has.

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Oh! You caught me unwrapping man's best friend here,

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covered in bubble wrap. As you can see, it's a full house,

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and everybody is now safely seated inside.

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It's about time we got on with the valuations.

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-Everybody wants to know...

-What's it worth?

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And we're going to find out. Kate is the first expert at the blue tablecloth.

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Let's go and join her and see what she's found.

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Isabel, you've brought quite an interesting sporting collection.

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-What do we know about it?

-Well, first of all, it's not mine.

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It's my late husband's, and I found it in the loft.

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-Did you know he had it up there?

-I knew vaguely

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-that there was a lot of what I might have called rubbish.

-Right.

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-I knew not to throw them out.

-He's collected a fantastic collection

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of cricket memorabilia, I suppose you would call it.

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You've got signatures, mainly late 1940s, so post-war.

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He obviously has cut out some of them.

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-Yes.

-Which, for a collector...

-Isn't as good. No.

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In this book, you've got all the different counties,

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and he's got complete sets of quite a few of them.

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Look at this, on a Surrey headed paper.

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-That's beautiful!

-That's really nice. What's this one?

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That's a West Indies touring team, but I'm not sure of the date.

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As you can see, they've come over on a cargo ship,

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and they must have all been sitting on the deck

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-signing pieces of paper.

-Brilliant!

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And again, we've got a West Indies fully signed team photo here.

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New Zealand team, 1949.

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And again, a South African team.

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-I'm not a cricketer myself, obviously...

-No, neither am I!

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So most of these names are not leaping out at me,

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but I'm sure the collectors will still get interested in them.

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They're of a good age, as well, and condition-wise, brilliant.

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-So they were up in the loft.

-They were in the loft.

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How much do you think they might be worth?

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To me, nothing.

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-Right.

-But to a cricketer or a cricket fan,

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-who knows?

-Like your husband.

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Yes! Yes, they were very precious to him.

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As a mixed collection, you've probably got an estimate for auction

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-of somewhere between £100 and £150.

-That sounds brilliant.

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-You'd be happy with that?

-Yes, yes.

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Probably reserve it just below that. £80 reserve.

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-Give the auctioneer a bit of discretion, so if it gets to 75, let it go.

-Yes.

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I'm sure there will be names in here that are very collectible.

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The auction house can find out some of the more collectible names,

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make sure they're listed in the catalogue,

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and they'll contact some collectors, or it goes up on the internet,

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they'll be flagged up as worth collecting,

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and that will get your buyers in.

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-Hopefully we'll find out the more interesting people and get you a good result.

-Thank you!

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Kate's done her best to put a fair valuation on that collection,

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but you just can never tell with this kind of lot.

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I love just looking over one of our experts' shoulders,

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sometimes some of the off-screeners'.

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Michael Bowles here has just found some maritime memorabilia,

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which is what you'd expect to find on the Kentish coastline.

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Ship's wheel, port and starboard lights, and look at this!

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A diver's helmet.

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Now, here's something we rarely see on "Flog It!".

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Ted's brought in an antique gun.

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Firearm laws don't apply to old weapons like this,

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as you can't get ammunition for it. It's clearly a collectable.

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-Can you tell us what it is?

-It's a Smith & Wesson.

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It's a .310-calibre Rimfire.

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-It's what is also called a lockup.

-Explain that.

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-Can you show us what that is?

-Yes, certainly. Colts had a patent

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-that they locked down the barrel.

-Oh, right. OK.

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To load it, you'd lock it down and put the bullets in.

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So Smith & Wesson had to think up another idea,

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and they designed what's called the lockup,

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-so it works in the opposite direction.

-Oh, wow!

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-And then you'd load it there.

-What you do is, you cock the gun,

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take out the barrel. You then push out the old cartridges

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with that piece, reload,

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put it back in again, lock it up,

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and it's got a hidden trigger, so it's safe in somebody's pocket.

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-So you don't blow your leg off.

-Exactly, yeah.

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It wasn't a holstered gun. It was carried in the pocket.

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-It's quite a light weight. It's not a heavy gun.

-No.

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It appealed to me for several reasons,

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first of all because it's a really good, collectable firearm.

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There's lots of collectors for them. But also it's in fabulous condition.

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-I used to shoot at the pistol club in Herne Bay.

-Oh, right. OK.

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Looking at it, I'm quite certain it's never been fired.

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By looking down the barrel, you can see how clean it is.

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-If you look up at the light with it, it's never been fired at all.

-No.

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And the wear on it is minimal.

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But also you've got all this wonderful blueing to the metal.

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There's not even a scratch on there, is there?

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And the lovely turned handle.

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-So, how long have you owned it?

-About 18 years now.

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-And where did you get it from?

-I had a very good friend.

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He was ex-Navy, same as I was. And when he left the Navy after the war,

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he became a bookmaker, a London bookmaker.

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And he got friendly with another bookmaker who was quite older than him.

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He asked him if he would like this when this bookmaker was retiring,

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and he said that he was issued with it

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-by the Pinkerton Detective Agency.

-Really?

-Yes,

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for his own protection carrying money. And that was in the 1890s.

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-Gosh!

-Yeah.

-There's no reason why it shouldn't have happened,

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but with all these stories, you need a good provenance to show that.

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You've had it for all these years. Why have you decided now to sell it?

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Having reached the great old age of 77...

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They won't throw it in the box after me, will they?

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But the thing is that there are collectors out there,

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younger people who like to collect,

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and it seems such a shame to go to waste.

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I agree with you. They're specialist dealers and collectors

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who want this. I think a sensible estimate is £300 to £500.

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-Is that something you'd be happy with?

-Oh, yes.

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-It's better than being in the safe.

-Of course it is.

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We'll put a reserve of 300, because it's not worth giving these away.

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-It's a good, collectable item.

-It is a mint-condition item.

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I think it's fantastic. I'm really pleased to have met you.

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-Thank you for telling us all about it.

-Thank you, Mark.

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Whoever buys this won't need a firearms licence,

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because it's obviously an antique.

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Just look at this a moment. Do you two know each other?

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-Not at all.

-How random is this?

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This lady has brought in the kettle,

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this young lad's brought in the biscuit barrel.

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Tea and biscuits, anybody? Refreshments are here!

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And I just might have found something to satisfy anyone

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with a real sweet tooth.

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It certainly stands well, Mike. Thank you for bringing this in.

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It's a piece of sterling silver. Anybody know what this is?

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-Sugar shaker?

-Sorry?

-Sugar shaker.

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A sugar shaker?

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-A sugar castor! Yeah.

-Castor.

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Well done. You got it, though, didn't you, really?

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-So, how did you come by this?

-I bought it in Portobello Road.

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Did you? That's my old stomping ground.

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-How long ago was that?

-It was about 30 years ago.

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I would've been there then. I had my own little pitch.

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-How much did you pay for it?

-£48.

-OK.

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Well, there's the assay marks. There's the leopard's head there.

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-Does anybody know that assay mark?

-London.

-Do you know where that is?

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Yeah, London. And the letter U, which is quite clear there.

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-1895.

-That's 1895.

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And there's the maker's initials, look - WRC.

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Now, I can't find any WRCs in my book, unfortunately.

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There's a WRS, late Victorian, but he was a spoon maker.

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I would say you paid...

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..the right money for that, and it's what the trade wants right now.

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It's good, it's clean, there's no dents in it.

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The finial is slightly bent to one side, but that can be sorted out.

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And it stands well. It looks good. It's got a good height.

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It's not flatware, which is quite boring.

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-It looks good in my cabinet.

-Why is it here today,

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-and not in your cabinet?

-I've had it quite a few years now,

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and I've, er, really liked looking at it.

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It's given me a lot of pleasure, and it's time to pass it on to somebody else who'll appreciate it too.

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I would say, if an auctioneer wanted to catalogue this,

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he'd put this into the saleroom at a valuation of £75 to £100.

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-How do you feel about that?

-That's OK. Happy with that. Yeah.

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-Well, let's flog it.

-Yeah. Flog it.

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We are now halfway through our day. We've all been working flat out

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at a cracking pace. Our experts have made their first choices

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to go off to auction, so let's put those valuations to the test at Canterbury auction house.

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And here's a reminder of what we're taking.

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Isabel's cricket memorabilia has been in the loft for ages,

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but she's sure it's worth a few bob.

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Michael's silver sugar castor is over 100 years old,

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and that's the same age as our third item,

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Ted's Smith & Wesson revolver. It's an unusual piece,

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with a great story.

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For our auction today, we've moved a few miles inland to Canterbury.

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A quick tip, just before the sale starts.

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Buy a catalogue, read all the information in it,

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and check the small print, because there is a buyer's and seller's premium to pay.

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So factor that in! When the hammer goes down, make sure you can afford a little extra.

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Our auctioneer today is Cliona Kilroy.

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And first under the hammer is Isabel's cricket collection.

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-This is one for the boys, isn't it?

-It is!

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Let's bring Kate in, because it's a girly thing as well, cricket,

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-let's face it, if you like...

-Um, no.

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I don't know much about it, just enough to know it should sell at this price.

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-£100 to £200 we've got on this.

-Yeah.

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-Cricket memorabilia is big business. It really is.

-Yeah.

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-This is going to go for six, straight away.

-Promise?

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-Yes, definitely!

-Might be a duck. You never know.

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No, it won't. It won't be a no-bowl. This is it here.

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Three cricket photographs autographed by the various teams

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as in the catalogue, and a selection of other autographed photographs.

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-Commission interest. We start at...

-90.

-£90.

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-Oh!

-90 I'm bid. I'm looking for £100.

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100 I'm bid. 110. 120. 130.

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140. 150.

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-160?

-Oh, that's great!

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160. 170. 180. 190.

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200? Anybody at 200?

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-This is good.

-On my right, still at £190 now.

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Any further offer? Any further bid? Anything online?

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If not, I'm selling at £190. The bid is on my right at 190.

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You're back in at 200. 210.

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220. 220 anywhere?

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Still on my right at £210. And selling at 210...

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-Yes! £120!

-Thank you!

-Hammer's gone down at 210.

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-Thank you very much!

-That got the boundary, didn't it?

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-Yes! I must go and find some more!

-Have you got any more?

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Not cricket, but I've got some more rubbish!

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Oh, you have some rubbish. If you've got any rubbish like that,

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-we want to see it.

-That's the kind of rubbish we love.

-How brilliant!

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I love it when one person's hobby proves popular with other collectors.

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Our next item is Michael's silver sugar castor,

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which he bought 30 years ago at my old stomping ground,

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the Portobello Road.

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Unfortunately its owner Michael cannot be with us today,

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so it's just me holding the fort. Here we go.

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Let's find out what this lot think. Let's hope the bidders are here.

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Lot number 437 is the late-Victorian silver sugar castor.

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Lot 437. Who'll start me at, er, £50?

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50? Any interest at £50, lot 437, the sugar castor?

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50 I'm bid. Who's in at 60 now?

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60 for someone? 60 I have.

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-Yes. Chap down the front.

-Anybody at 80?

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Bid is at the front of the room here at £70 now. Anybody else bidding?

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Right at the front at £70, then. If we're all done I will sell.

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Well, that's it. It's gone. It just sold for £70.

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Straight in, straight out. Blink and you'll miss it.

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I think Michael will be pleased with that. He bought it for,

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if my memory serves me well, £40 in the Portobello Road quite a few years ago. That's a winner.

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A lovely item, on its way to a new home.

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And now we're ready for Ted's 1890s Smith & Wesson revolver.

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The auctioneers are happy to sell, as it's clearly 100 years old,

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and you can't buy ammunition for it.

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-Remind me, why are you selling this?

-You can't take it with you.

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Well, you can't take anything with you, can you?

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I used to do a lot of shooting at one time, but, you know,

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-I sort of packed it up.

-Is there no-one you wanted to pass it on to?

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-No. Kids aren't interested these days.

-Not really, are they?

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You don't want it lying round the house.

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No. It's really for a collector, because, as you say,

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the condition is fantastic, all the blueing on the barrel...

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-It's just what you want.

-I want to see some phone lines booked here,

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and I want to see some internet bidding,

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-because hopefully this will just fly away.

-Hope so.

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Let's find out, shall we? Ted, this is it.

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The Smith & Wesson lockup-patent five-shot-calibre revolver.

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Good thing, this. Several bids. Starting at £360.

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I'm looking for 380. Bid is on the book at £360

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and I'm looking for 380. Who's in at £380?

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Anybody in at 380?

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380. 400. And 20.

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-440. 460.

-This is good.

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480. 500.

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No? It's at £480 on my right now. Any further offer?

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Any further bid in the room? If not I'll sell at £480.

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The bid is on my right at 480. If we're all done at 480...

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-Top end of the estimate.

-We're happy with that.

-Very.

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-Are you, Ted?

-Yeah, not half!

-Good.

-THEY LAUGH

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-There's commission to pay, don't forget.

-Of course.

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-Enjoy the rest of the day.

-Thank you.

-And the money.

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A cheque will be going off to help the old soldiers.

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-Is that what you're doing?

-Some of it.

-Help The Heroes?

-I shall send them a cheque.

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Ted's revolver was in mint condition and had never been fired,

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so the collectors were prepared to pay top money for it.

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That concludes our first visit to the sale today.

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We are coming back here later, and I guarantee one big surprise,

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so whatever you do, don't go away. But while we were in the area,

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I took the opportunity to explore some of the local history.

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Take a look at this!

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For hundreds of years, sailing barges were a familiar sight

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-along the Kent coastline.

-Up topsail!

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Take it right up.

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Forwards, as well.

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One, the Cambria, was still plying her trade

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well into the '70s, the only remaining commercial cargo vessel

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in the UK purely working under sail.

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A flat-bottomed, leeboarded, spritsailed barge she is.

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Built at the turn of the century,

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the Cambria still knows no other power than the wind.

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But this romantic age was slowly ending.

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As modern ships took over the work, the Cambria was retired from working life, and left to rot in mud.

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Well, here on the quayside in Faversham,

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the old girl is being brought back to life.

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Underneath all these temporary canvasses and covers,

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the sailing barge Cambria lives again,

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and the shipwrights are working on her right now,

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so come aboard and take a look.

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In 1996, a group of enthusiasts took over ownership of the Cambria,

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and formed a charitable trust. William Collard is the project manager.

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What a wonderful vessel! It's an honour to be on the deck with you,

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and I can't wait to see this finished,

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-because it is a huge vessel, isn't it?

-Yes, it is,

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and everything around us, as you see, is chunky...

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-Big scale.

-Big stuff.

-Where did you come across her?

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Well, I first came across her in the 1970s

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when she was down in Sittingbourne in a very bad state.

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She had been taken out of trade,

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and a group of enthusiasts were getting together

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to try and restore her. Unfortunately there was no funding,

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so she slowly deteriorated. She was moved around

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from place to place, but really just only patched up.

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You've been part of this for a long time.

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I joined the Cambria Trust in 1996,

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when the vessel was sinking on every tide.

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The big breakthrough came in 2007.

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The Trust was given a £1 million lottery grant.

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Now they could begin the enormous task of completely rebuilding her

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from the bottom upwards.

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A great percentage of this vessel had rotten timbers in it,

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didn't it? They've all been replaced now.

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She was really falling apart, especially on the one side.

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You could put your hand through the side.

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We couldn't really recover any of the timber.

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It was beyond re-using. Many places it was rotten,

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and in many places it was split and broken.

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An example of that is that knee here, this oak knee.

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This is slightly perished now, but a good hundred years old.

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Yes, indeed. It would've been lovely if we could've used things like this,

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but it's just beyond practical use, really.

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But the original floor was as good as the day it was put in,

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and has formed a base for us to work from.

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And it'll probably be just as good in another hundred years.

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We would hope so.

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The Cambria was a coasting barge. She worked along the south and east coasts of England,

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and across the Channel to France.

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What do you carry in this barge mainly, usually?

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Well, like all barges, we carry anything from manure to maize.

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We're a sort of a tramp ship, really. We pick up anything.

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I was on a barge once that had a freight of chicken coops.

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Five chicken coops high on the deck, we were.

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The Cambria had been built in Kent in 1906,

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so it's incredible that, 60 years later,

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she was still competing with the larger, more modern cargo ships.

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Remember, she had no engine, and relied on the winds

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and the skills of her master to take the cargoes up and down the Thames.

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What's going to be her place in the future?

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What will you do with her?

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The big hold area that you've seen down below

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-we're converting into a classroom.

-OK.

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And the idea is, we've picked a number of ports,

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and we're going to take the vessel to the ports.

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We're starting in Kent, but then we hope to go into Essex and London.

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-Oh, smashing!

-And we're going to get 20 to 30 schoolchildren aboard,

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and teach them about the history of the Thames,

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the kind of cargoes these vessels took,

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and see all about the restoration of a really old wooden vessel.

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And the project is already offering opportunities to young people.

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They've even taken on three apprentices

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to work on the restoration, under the supervision of master shipwright Tim Goldsack.

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Tim, can I stop you there? Hello, mate.

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-Pleased to meet you.

-Hi.

-Gosh, what a big vessel, isn't it?

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It's only when you're down here you can see the immense size of it.

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How long does each one of those planks take you

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-to cut to shape and put in?

-From start to finish,

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each one takes approximately two days,

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and there's something in the region of 150 planks on the vessel.

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Gosh! So there's a lot of work gone into this hull.

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There certainly is, yeah. Quite a few hours.

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And obviously you're caulking it with bitumen and tar?

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Yeah, that's right. These vessels are constructed

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with two layers of planking, and between the layers

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it has what are called set-work, which is a layer of felt

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-and a layer of tar.

-Do you heat the tar up and mix with horse manure?

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Yes. It's hot tar mixed with horse manure,

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which is a traditional binding agent,

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and that helps to give it its watertight integrity.

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And you're trying to use traditional methods all the time?

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Yeah. All the skills we use are the same that were used

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when they were originally built, the only difference being

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that we have modern materials and modern glues, etc.

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I know these would have been pegged and dowled with trennels,

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-tree nails, wouldn't they?

-Exactly, yeah.

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Traditionally they were built with trennels.

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These days we used galvanised iron spikes to put everything together.

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Good luck with it.

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Good luck with it. I'm sure she's going to be watertight!

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THEY LAUGH

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It certainly is coming together. A few licks of paint,

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but under full sail she'll look fabulous,

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and I can't wait for that day.

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That's all down to the guys here and their hard work,

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because this sailing barge, Cambria, is now recognised

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as one of our most important sailing vessels. This is a piece of maritime history right here,

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and I'm touching it. Instead of being consigned to the mud

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for another 100 years, she's going to be afloat for future generations to appreciate and enjoy.

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And long may it last!

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At our valuation day in the Kings Hall, Herne Bay,

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there are still hundreds of eager people

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waiting to have their items valued.

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The room is packed inside there, and the queue is spilling out still

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along the seafront. This is where it all starts.

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If you want to take part in a show, come along to a valuation day

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with your unwanted antiques and collectables,

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because we would love to see you.

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To find details of upcoming dates and venues, just log on to...

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If you don't have a computer, check your local press,

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because we are coming to an area, fingers crossed, near you soon.

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On with our valuations, and it's over to Mark Stacey.

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He's with Carol, who looks like she's cashing in her savings!

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-You've brought a little bit of bling in to show us.

-I have.

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Now, where did you get all these gold sovereigns?

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I bought them off a dealer

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in London, down a lane called Cheshire Street,

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and my children were very young,

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and I was doing market work,

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and my way of saving was, I used to buy one a week,

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and gradually I built them up,

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and I bought the mounts at £1.25...

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Gosh, this must be going back 40 years or more!

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It is going back 40 years or more! And gradually I had it made into a bracelet.

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The George IV coin I bought round about the same era,

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but to be truthful, I've no idea at all what I paid for it.

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-Probably a tenner or something.

-Something like that.

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-Not much.

-A couple of quid for the mount, cos it's slightly bigger.

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No, I had the mount made much later. It cost me £100.

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Gosh! Really? Wow.

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-And I presume the mounts are nine-carat gold...

-They are.

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-..rather than the 22-carat gold of the coins.

-That's right. Nine.

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If I pick it up, we've got a bun- head for the young Victoria's head

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on those, and then this one, we've got a young Queen Elizabeth head.

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That's right.

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Then we go on again, of course,

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to another young Queen Victoria's head.

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-Then we've got a mid-period head, haven't we?

-Yes.

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And then we go back on to another young Victoria's head.

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Another one, yes.

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And then, of course, as you say, you've got a George IV gold £2 coin.

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The sad thing with these sort of things, Carol,

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there's no sentimentality about them.

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-Unless they're a rare coin...

-That's right.

-..or a rare date,

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the dealers will weigh them and say, "That's the gold price."

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So I've had a quick tot-up,

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and I mean, as a sensible estimate,

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we're looking at £800 to £1,200.

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-Right.

-So we're looking at a reserve of about 800 quid.

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-Yes.

-How do you feel about that?

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There'd have to be a reserve of that, yes.

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What I'm looking at, really, I would like £1,200.

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It would be lovely to get that. I can give you a valuation today,

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but by the time the auction comes up in a few weeks' time,

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-the gold might have dropped a lot.

-Exactly.

-Or it might have risen.

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What we've got to pray for is that the market will be higher

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when we come to the auction. So I think what you've got to do

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in your own mind is say, "Right, I'm happy to get the 800 reserve,

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-and I'll pay a bit of commission on that and that's them." How do you feel about that?

-I feel fine.

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-Are you happy with that?

-I am happy.

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If you do get a reasonable price you're happy with,

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any plans? Are you going to go off to Barbados?

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-I shall have a few holidays.

-Will you?

-I'm going to enjoy it.

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-Fantastic. Enjoy it while you're young enough to.

-I will.

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Well, that lot should add up to a decent holiday!

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Now to Kate Bateman. She's with Hugo and his grandson Stanley,

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and they've brought in two old characters.

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What can you tell me about them?

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Well, I've had them for 50 years.

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I got them off my father when he passed on,

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-and he got them off his father...

-Right.

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..which would be my grandfather,

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and which would take us back to the turn of the century.

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Victorian, late Victorian.

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I presume you've had these in your house, if you inherited them.

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Yes. They've been hanging in my bedroom for 30 years.

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-30 years!

-Yes.

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Are you not tempted to keep them in the family, then,

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and pass them on to your grandson here?

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He doesn't want it. He wants me to enjoy myself.

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-Not at all? Oh!

-No.

-Do you like them?

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-Are you a doggy person?

-Oh, yes. I had five dogs.

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Are these looking like either of your dogs?

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No. I had an English bull terrier and four ordinary bull terriers.

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OK. I don't know quite what breeds we've got here,

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but they're rather nice. They are late Victorian.

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They're both monogrammed. You've got here RC on this one,

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and I think FC, or CF, on this one.

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Now, we haven't been able to look up who the artists are,

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and if we can trace them down to a specific artist,

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it may affect the valuation upwards. Of the two,

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I think this one's the slightly better painting,

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and he's got quite a sweet face.

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He's got that kind of hang-dog expression.

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Looks like he hasn't had his dinner and he really wants to go home.

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This one's odder. He looks quite startled.

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I would offer them as a pair, though,

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rather than as individual ones.

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I would have said a fairly low estimate, from my point of view,

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would be £100 to £200 for the pair, so between £50 and £100 each,

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which I know is quite a wide estimate,

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but it will rely on somebody falling in love with the dog

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or specifically wanting dog paintings.

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-Is that the kind of figure you'd be happy with?

-Yeah. Yeah.

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OK. Well, if we put an estimate of £100 to £200,

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would you want a reserve of £100, to stop it going for less than that?

0:29:520:29:57

-Oh, yeah.

-I'd be happy with that.

-To protect it,

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so if the bidding didn't reach £100, it wouldn't be sold.

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I think somebody will fall in love with them, a dog lover,

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-and I think they're great fun, so let's put them in the sale and see how they go.

-Thank you.

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After 30 years on Hugo's wall,

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those two deserve to find a new home, and I'm sure they will.

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It's been such a busy day, and our experts have been working flat-out,

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but there's still time for me to get around the queue and sniff out something special.

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-Can I be nosy? What's your name?

-It's old books. Claire.

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You never know. You never know.

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There could be something really, really valuable in there.

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-There could be, couldn't there?

-And Beatrix Potter books.

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-I think they're first editions.

-You think they're first editions?

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If they are, you're sitting on a small fortune!

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-Do you know that?

-That would be nice, wouldn't it?

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-THEY LAUGH

-Have you shown them to anybody?

-No.

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I've been on the internet doing searches and things.

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-Sadly they're not first edition.

-Oh.

-Which is a shame.

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They're 1960s. But they're in good condition, and very collectable.

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That would've been too good to be true, wouldn't it?

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Here on "Flog It!" we're always turning up little treasures,

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and Mark has found a small piece of glass that might turn out to be something big.

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-Hello, Olive.

-Hello.

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Sometimes they say the best things come in small packages, don't they?

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-Yeah.

-I'm talking about this lovely little vase you brought in.

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-Tell me about it.

-I bought it in a charity shop.

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-No!

-Yes.

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-When?

-I know I bought it after my mother died, and that was '97.

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-How much did you pay for it?

-50 pence, I think it was. Yeah.

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And you were just attracted by the colour, I guess?

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-It was the poppies.

-Yes.

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Because my grandmother loved poppies,

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and she always used to wear the California poppy perfume,

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so I saw the poppies and I thought, "Ahh!"

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-Gosh! I think it's absolutely delicious.

-Thank you.

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It's an absolutely wonderful little object.

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It's just a little small vase,

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and you've got the little rim here,

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which is decorated in coloured enamels and gilt.

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And as you turn the item around, it's got an iridescent background.

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It has that slight oily-on-water look to it.

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And then you've got these lovely trailing poppies.

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This one is nice and open, and then you've got another little one

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just about to come out, then this one is almost finished.

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It's seeded, really. And it screams quality.

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-Mmm.

-But quality that isn't English.

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-Right.

-It's French.

-Mm-hm.

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What did you think it said underneath here?

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-I thought it said "Dawn Nancy".

-Well, it's actually "Daum",

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and it's got the mark there with a Cross of Lorraine

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and "Nancy". Now, this was made

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probably around about... 1900, 1910.

0:32:490:32:53

Really? Oh!

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And it's sort of Art Nouveau-ish,

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and there are three factories in France at that time

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which really strike out for glass - that's Daum,

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Galle, of course, which also produced this type of cameo glass,

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and Lalique, and it just is lovely.

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There's a slight problem or two here.

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There's a couple of little fleabites around the inner rim.

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I mean, they are terribly small, but they're there,

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-and we have to take account of them.

-Right. OK.

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But I think it's a charming little thing. What are you hoping for?

0:33:230:33:26

I have no idea. I didn't think it was worth anything.

0:33:260:33:30

-Really?

-Mm.

0:33:300:33:31

-Well, I think, if we put this in at £50 to £80...

-Ooh!

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..hopefully, even with the little fleabites,

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if two people like it, it could well go over 100.

0:33:390:33:42

-Lovely!

-But I just think it's a charming little object.

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Are you happy to put it in at that? And we'll put a 50 reserve on it,

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-with discretion, if that's OK.

-Thank you. Yes.

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But I do absolutely adore it. I could easily walk home with this.

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-I think it's absolutely wonderful.

-You're not having it.

-I know! The auction's getting it!

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I think Mark's playing it very safe there!

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Daum Nancy glass is very collectable at the moment.

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It's time for us to make our final trip to the auction house,

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and here's a quick reminder of what we're taking with us.

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We've got Carol's gold coins that she's saved over the years.

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We have those two dog paintings brought in by Hugo,

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and the tiny Daum Nancy glass which Olive bought for just 50 pence,

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and Mark's valued it at 100 times that.

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First up, Carol's gold coins,

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and the auctioneer has split them into two lots.

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The George IV £2 coin is now valued at £150 to £200.

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But first it's the bracelet of sovereigns,

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now valued at £800 to £1,200 on its own.

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If you're going to have a gold bracelet, have one like this,

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-because it's worth an awful lot of money, isn't it?

-It is that!

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Wow! I know on the day you valued the bracelet with the £2 gold coin.

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-That's right.

-We've since had them split by the auctioneer,

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so selling the two lots separately,

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though we've still got £800 to £1,200 on the bracelet

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-and hopefully a couple of hundred on the coin.

-That would be nice.

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-This has been a lot of collecting!

-I've done a lot more than that.

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-What, all gold?

-Yes.

-No!

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-And sold a lot.

-Oh, and sold a lot.

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Did you enjoy wearing the bracelet at all?

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That was one I wore all the time. I had another one...

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-Oh!

-..with 36 sovereigns.

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-That's major bling!

-That's major bling.

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That's proper, isn't it? Hey, that's showing off!

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-That got showed off, as you say.

-That was showing off!

-Yeah.

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So, you've decided to have a clear-out of all the gold?

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-I have.

-It's a good time to sell.

-That's why I'm doing it.

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You're not daft, are you? Precious metals are up right now.

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We're in a recession, and people invest in silver and gold.

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Yes. The safe options.

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So, we got two lots. One's following the other.

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Let's start with £300 to £1,200, fingers crossed for the top end. It's the bracelet. Here we go!

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554 is the nine-carat gold bracelet set with six sovereigns,

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as per catalogue, 57.9 grams. Lot 554.

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-Who will start me at £500?

-Wait.

-Sorry.

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-There's commission interest. Start £1,000.

-Starting at £1,000.

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-Straight in at £1,000!

-I'm looking for 1,050.

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Any bid at 1,050, in the room or online?

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It's a commission bid of £1,000. Any further offer? If not, I'm...

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1,050. 1,100.

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1,150.

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No? Bid is on my right at £1,100 now.

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Any further offer?

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1,150. 1,150.

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1,200. Anybody for 1,200? It's now in the room at 1,150.

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And selling...

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-Yes! Top end. So far, so good.

-I'm so excited!

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And there's the £2 coin. Let's see if we can get the top end here.

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Lot number 559 is the George IV £2 coin.

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Lot 559. Who'll start me at £100? 100. 100 I'm bid.

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110. 120. 130. 140.

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150. 160. 170.

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180. 190. 200. And ten. 220.

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230. 240. 250.

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260. 270. 280.

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290. 300. 320?

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Anybody at 320?

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Any interest at 320? On my right at £300 now.

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Are we all done at £300?

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-Yes! £300!

-That's not bad, was it?

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-That's incredible, isn't it?

-Wasn't it?

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-What's that? £1,450?

-Absolutely!

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-Oh, I'm so pleased!

-Oh, I'm ever so pleased!

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-Thank you all very, very much!

-It's a great time to sell gold.

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If you've got anything like that, bring it to a valuation day,

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and it could be you in the auction room next time. Well done, Carol.

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£1,450! A good day for gold, and a great day for Carol.

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Next up, that pair of dog paintings belonging to Hugo and Stanley.

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Well, Hugo and Stanley, we're just about to let the dogs out.

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This is our next lot, £100 to £200. Really nice oils.

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One of them I'm not sure what breed it is,

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-but the other is a Newfoundland.

-It's a bitzer -

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bits of this and bits of that. It's a bit of a mix.

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They are quite sweet. They are lovely.

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One's better painted than the other, but they're going as a pair.

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But the dog lovers will love them! That's the main thing.

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And hopefully we've got a room full of them.

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-This could be your inheritance he's flogging.

-I'm hoping so.

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-THEY LAUGH

-Let's see how we do.

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It's down to the bidders now. It's going under the hammer.

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Pair of oil paintings, the heads of the dogs there.

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Various bids. We're starting at £130, and I'm looking for 140.

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There's a dog lover, look. Very keen, waving away.

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200. And ten.

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220.

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230. 240.

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250. 260.

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270. Anybody at 270?

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In the room at £260 now. Any further offer?

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If not, I'm selling at £260. The bid is standing at 260.

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-Brilliant! That was good.

-Fantastic!

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-The dog lovers were here.

-Yeah.

-I thought they were really nice.

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They'd suit anybody's wall. Proper country little scene, that.

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I'm just going off to buy a nice pair of shoes.

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Is that what you're going to do? Oh, well done. Look after him!

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-I will.

-Look after him. The dog lovers were certainly here today.

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What well behaved pooches! They made well over the top estimate.

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And now we have my favourite item of the day,

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that delicate French glass vase belonging to Olive.

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And I've a feeling Mark's estimate could be rather mean!

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Now, that lovely little French vase with a poppy on it,

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-which is just incredible, isn't it? That caught your eye...

-Yes.

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-How much did you pay for it?

-50p!

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-SHE LAUGHS

-You see, it is out there, isn't it?

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-And I think we can recycle this 50p into easily £100.

-No!

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That's my gut feeling. It just stands out so well.

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-Absolutely.

-It could do twice your top end.

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£180?

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Well, it could do, Paul. A tiny little thing.

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You could overlook it, but it just screams quality.

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-I saw it from a distance and just -

-Zoomed in.

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I saw you. Wings! You were like that.

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-You gave me quite a fright.

-Did I? I've been told that before.

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When he comes charging towards you. Why are you selling it, though?

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Because it is beautiful! This should be on your dressing table.

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My daughter recently won a makeover and a photo shoot,

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and she took me with her, because you get every photo,

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but then you have to pay for any more that you want,

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so she said, "Come with me so I don't buy any."

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-So I went, and I bought two myself!

-HE LAUGHS

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-Oh, OK.

-If it sells, I will put it...

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-OK.

-Oh, wonderful.

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We can't talk about it any more because it's going under the hammer,

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and it's down to this packed saleroom in Canterbury. Good luck!

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-This is it.

-Thank you.

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181, moving into the glassware.

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It's the Daum Nancy cranberry-tinted glass vase.

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-Several bids. We start at...

-340.

-£340.

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I knew it had quality, but not that much!

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360. 360. 380.

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-400.

-Can you hold me up, please?

-I'll prop you up. Don't worry.

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-460. Anybody at 460?

-460!

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460. 480?

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500.

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520.

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-That was a cunning buy, wasn't it?

-What were the chances?

-540.

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560.

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580.

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600.

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-Oh, my God!

-620.

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640?

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-Hang on in there!

-640. 660.

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680?

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No? The bid is at £660, with Tina.

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680? Do you want to come in?

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Any interest at 680, in the room or anywhere else?

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If not I'll sell at £660. The bidder's on the phone.

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At 660. If we're all done at 660...

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Yes! £660!

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Ooh!

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-Olive!

-It's only this...

-I know, I know!

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But small is beautiful! That poppy was just divine, wasn't it?

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-I have good taste.

-You have very good taste!

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-I had a sneaky suspicion about this.

-You did.

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I had that feeling. You know when you pick things up,

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you think, "Yes, that's a little sleeper"?

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What a wonderful way to end today's show here in Canterbury, with a wonderful moment like that!

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-You're going to live that moment for a long time. £660!

-My glasses have steamed up!

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THEY LAUGH

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That poppy design clearly had a lot of sentimental value for Olive,

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and it's earned her more than 1,000 times the 50 pence she paid for it.

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Just goes to show, always buy things you love!

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What a fantastic day we've had here!

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Everything's sold, and a lot of it at the top end of the estimate,

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and we were clearly overwhelmed by the sale of Olive's glass vase.

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That's definitely one to remember.

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Paul Martin is on the Kent coast at Herne Bay with experts Kate Bateman and Mark Stacey. There are smiles and tears as a tiny glass vase turns out to be a big seller. Plus Paul finds out how a £1 million lottery grant is helping refloat a 100-year-old sailing barge as an educational project.


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