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We've heard some tall tales over the years on the Antiques Roadshow, but a man who rides pigs bareback?

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That's an odd one, but it's true,

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which is why it qualifies to be included in this collection of Priceless Antiques Roadshow.

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Hello again. It's funny how our attitude

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to an object can change in an instant.

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Earlier this year, a man showed me an ordinary lemon squeezer.

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Rather boring, I thought.

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I was about to walk away when he told me it once belonged to Marilyn Monroe. That got me interested!

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In this episode, standby to witness some remarkable objects with cracking claims to fame.

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That's the most staggering story. I'm holding Buffalo Bill's gauntlet.

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Every image... The classic image of Buffalo Bill

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-is of him in his hat with these great gauntlets.

-That's right.

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It's part of his trademark.

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We revisit a moment in history that still casts a shadow, even today.

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Gruesome, but at the same time, I have to say, rather fascinating.

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These are all slaves that were actually sold and the names of the people who actually bought them.

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And two Roadshow experts hit the road in search of magical jewels.

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-But this doesn't smell of anything to me.

-So what is it?

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-Gosh, it's gold.

-Yeah.

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Oh! That is amazing.

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I can hear you asking, where does the pig fit into all that?

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Well, you're about to find out.

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We love a good story on the Antiques Roadshow,

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and no more so than one about an object which comes with the lure of a famous owner.

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Here from our archives, a handful of legendary moments

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when even the experts couldn't quite believe what they were hearing.

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Our first unusual item turned up in the most surprising of places.

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Hilary Kay certainly couldn't believe her eyes when she

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unwrapped the gloves of famous Wild West showman Buffalo Bill

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when the Antiques Roadshow visited Norfolk.

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I love a parcel, and I love a parcel that has got a treasure in it.

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Rather a dilapidated and dirty treasure, I'm afraid.

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I don't know, these look pretty good to me.

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The Buffalo Bill gloves that came into Holkham were spectacular.

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To find a bit of what looks like North American Indian beadwork

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here in the middle of Norfolk does slightly surprise me.

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-Who went over to America to get these?

-Nobody.

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My grandfather, who I don't think ever went to America in his life, was very into animals and what have you.

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He went off to see the Wild West show run by Buffalo Bill

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and he was presented with these by Buffalo Bill.

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I don't know which Wild West show it was, it was a long time ago.

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The story then unfolded with the lady owner talking about

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her grandfather who had actually acquired these gloves from Buffalo Bill's Wild West show.

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That's the most staggering story.

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So, I am holding Buffalo Bill's gauntlet?

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-Yes.

-Every image... The classic image of Bill Cody, Buffalo Bill,

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is of him in his hat with these great gauntlets on.

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-That's right.

-It's part of his trademark, isn't it?

-That's right.

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Now, he came over, Buffalo Bill, he brought his show over in 1887,

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and he set up a proper Wild West encampment.

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-He did.

-I wonder how your grandfather actually met him.

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Was he in the inner circle?

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Not that I'm aware of, but he was very into animals and

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he had this private zoo, and he probably, I'm assuming that he went

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to the show to see what animals might be available.

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Because, having brought them over from America it's much cheaper not to have to take them back again.

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Because, probably, Buffalo Bill was only too keen to encourage

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possible purchasers, he made this presentation as a sort of come on, so to speak.

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That was one thing and then we delved into this extraordinary world of her grandfather.

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This, to me, is the perfect Antiques Roadshow moment.

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You have an object and it sets you off

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down wonderful tangents into completely unenvisaged

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eccentricities, which culminated in a photograph of her grandfather's keeper riding a pig.

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So your grandfather was an eccentric collector of animals of all types?

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Very eccentric, yes. But he also liked them to be ridden.

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-To be ridden?

-To be ridden.

-What, everything?

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He used to get...

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his keepers to ride everything. I have just brought one.

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That's fantastic!

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I don't think I have ever seen a pig being ridden before!

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That is just dynamite. Is that him?

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-No, it's one of the keepers.

-Oh, it's one of the keepers.

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Well, I suppose the pig wouldn't let just anybody ride him, would it?!

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-No!

-Well, the first thing to say is that beadwork of any description is terribly valuable

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back in America, where it originated. That's obvious.

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But if you combine that with the iconic status of someone

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like Buffalo Bill, you are actually talking quite a lot of money here.

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-I think we should start at £10,000.

-Right.

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And maybe go up from there.

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Right, thank you very much indeed.

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Spectacular object, wonderful owner and a story that you couldn't make up.

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Sometimes a document provides the evidence you need to pronounce a strange item authentic.

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This was the case at an Antiques Roadshow in London a few years ago.

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It was at Mansion House that Nelson's hair came in

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and Wellington's hair came in.

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"The Duke of Wellington begs Mr Diamond will come promptly

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"and cut the Duke's hair on Wednesday at 11 o'clock."

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The point about that was everyone will turn around and say,

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"Well, there's enough hair from Wellington to stuff a sofa",

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but what you need is the provenance to go with it. Now, who is Mr Diamond?

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Mr Diamond was the husband of my great-great-grandfather's sister.

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It's very complicated, but here is this wonderful card.

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I assume he cut everybody's hair...

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royalty and all sorts of people's hair like that?

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Yes, I believe so. The Duke of Wellington, Princess Charlotte...

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Yes, tremendous.

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The actual document itself, the little calling card I suppose, the little advertisement,

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was vital in one sense, but you could put the two together, the hair and the card,

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and that is what we are looking for, those sort of provenances.

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Here is what the Duke of Wellington's hair looks like. How can one describe it?

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It is almost blonde, really, isn't it?

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So often you see these little pieces of hair and they come in very tiny

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little snippets, but that was, I would say, in quantity.

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Mind you, he must have had an enormous amount of chance to

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take famous hair, certainly if he clipped them every two months or so.

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This, of course, is the great Nelson.

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This is salt and pepper, which is precisely as Nelson's hair was supposed to be.

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Have you any idea how much these pieces are worth?

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I did have it valued some time ago for insurance purposes,

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household insurance, and they said about £200 pounds.

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-What, for them both?

-Yes.

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Well, the Duke of Wellington, here, I reckon somewhere in the region of £500.

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Nelson, well we are coming up to Nelson's bicentenary,

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and any Nelson material is getting quite a lot of money.

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I reckon that this piece would be worth £5,000.

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Well, the reason people want to collect hair, the reason

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people want to collect autographs, is that they want to feel

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not exactly closer to somebody, but they want a relic.

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People have always wanted relics, right the way from pilgrims and earlier,

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have always wanted a little bit of something because it brings

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them closer to the bravery, the gallantry, and in some ways

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the excitement of the battlefield, if you can call it excitement.

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# Robin Hood, Robin Hood Riding through the glen... #

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It is always a challenge to be sure that an item with a claim to fame

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is genuine, but at Renishaw Hall, our host for the day,

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Sir Reresby Sitwell, was so convinced of his item's famous origins,

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all Michael Aspel could do was agree.

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Sir Reresby, this is claimed to be an original bow of Robin Hood.

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How did it come into your possession?

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My uncle bought it.

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He remembered seeing the bow hanging in a neighbouring country house

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about three miles from here, and he was rather intrigued to see it there.

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50 years or more later it came up for sale.

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The house had been broken up and among the contents was sold this bow,

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which was bought by the principle of a local technical college.

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He put it up for sale in the late '40s, early '50s, and my uncle attended the auction and it was

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knocked down to him for the princely sum of £29.

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But what makes you think that it actually is the genuine article?

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I didn't think I would be holding Robin Hood's bow

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in the Antiques Roadshow,

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and I wasn't even sure I was holding it when I was holding it.

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It's one of those times where people bring along these objects and give you this background and

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you can't say, "Rubbish", or, "You just made that yourself", or "Somebody nicked it".

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But, I mean, was this his bow?

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I remember saying to him,

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"Sir Reresby, where did you get this from?", and all that, but it did have a kind of provenance.

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There were bits of ancient writing that proved that it was.

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This document here, which goes with it, describes it as being given to Mr Bartlett by the owners

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of Kirklees Priory, and legend has it that Robin Hood was taken ill there

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and fled to Kirklees to his distant cousin for medication.

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But she was a very naughty lady and she had a lover, sometimes known as Red Roger,

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and they conspired to murder poor Robin.

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Why they should want to murder Robin, I don't know,

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so a hole was cut in him and he bled to death.

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-That's a very sad end. How far could he actually fire an arrow?

-I don't know.

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According to legend, he's supposed to have said,

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"Where my last arrow lands, that's where I'd like to buried be."

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Sir Reresby was so convinced that it was Robin Hood's bow that

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if I had actually argued with him or said, "I simply do not believe

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"this and I'm sure our experts will prove it nonsense", he would have cracked me over the head with it.

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I didn't want to risk that so we have to play it straight.

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And always the excuse is, "I'm not an expert, what do I know?".

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Robin Hood's bow? I'm not sure Michael was convinced!

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It all comes down to that word we hear a lot of on the Roadshow -

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provenance. Irrefutable evidence that a piece can be tied directly to an owner or a maker.

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There's one smart way of making that connection - by using your eyes.

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Penny Brittain tells us now about an object that came her way almost by accident,

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that proved on closer inspection to have much more to it.

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I brought a very sweet, tactile little spoon

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that I absolutely love, and I acquired it not for very much

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money, simply because I love the way that the seed pod at the head just sort of drops out its seeds.

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I just like using it at my breakfast table, into the jam.

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Not that everybody obeys my rules, but it is the jam spoon.

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I didn't think much of it, other than I liked it,

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until I saw its big brother or sister in the Fitzwilliam Museum,

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saw on the label that the big brother was made

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by George Jensen and was dated about 1944, and I thought, "Good heavens, that looks just like mine!"

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I rushed home, opened the drawer, got the spoon out, went to look for the marks with my

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little loop, and saw it had JG and Sterling and Denmark

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and realised it was by George Jensen.

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Because I'm not a silver person and I don't normally look at silver,

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I was really interested to know a bit more about George Jensen.

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Anyway, he was Danish and a brilliant designer,

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and I decided that if I was going to collect something, it had to have an intrinsic value to it.

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I think in this day and age, when the market is so volatile, it is comforting to know that,

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no matter what prices are doing, whether they are in or out of fashion,

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you have actually got something

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by a named designer that is universally collectable.

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The Americans love George Jensen,

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and it is made of silver so it has its latent value in there.

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For my money, a piece of named silver that you can enjoy and use,

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well frankly, you can't do better.

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When our team of experts aren't on duty at Roadshows,

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they love nothing more than ferreting about for new treasures.

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Last year jewellery expert John Benjamin stumbled across

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a collection of gems that made his pulse race.

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Keen to share his find, he invited fellow Roadshow jewellery hound Jo Hardy to join him.

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"Great", she said, "you take us there. I'll drive".

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Interesting woman, Jo is.

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She's something of a free spirit. One of life's more unusual people.

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-Hi, John!

-I'm not getting on the back of that.

-Of this?

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I'm not getting on the back of a motorbike.

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You'll be fine, it's like sitting in an armchair.

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Are you ready?

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Don't worry, Jo Hardy is a highly experienced biker and,

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with John safely on board, they set off to Smallhythe Place in Kent in search of some rather special gems.

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Rather wonderful rustic and atmospheric house. Do you know who lived here?

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-I've got no idea.

-Come round here and look at this painting.

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-Do you recognise her?

-The face looks familiar. Who is she?

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This is the house, for the last 30 years of her life, of Ellen Terry,

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THE woman of the 19th century stage.

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-Beautiful lady.

-Beautiful woman, wasn't she?

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She was the ultimate Shakespearean actress.

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She was the Judi Dench of her day, and she inhabited her role in a way that nobody else could.

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This place is a veritable shrine to the woman's memory.

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There is something particular that I want you to have a look at, so follow me and I'll take you there. Come on.

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Fabulous.

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Ellen Terry first trod the boards as a child in the 1850s,

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and her career spanned many decades and myriad leading roles.

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She established her name as a Shakespearean actress,

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but also acted in plays by the likes of Shaw and Ibsen, and even ventured into film in her later years.

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Today John and Jo are hunting through the precious collection at the house

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for some gems befitting a leading lady.

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Have a look through here. Would you like that in your bedroom?

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Oh, my goodness! I like the outfit. I would like to see you in it, John.

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I don't think it would have suited me! The primary reason we are here is just behind you.

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Have a look at this.

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These prize pieces from Ellen Terry's collection,

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gathered over many years, have a strong theatrical story behind them.

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Oh, fantastic.

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Oh, that's amazing.

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Let's have a little look inside.

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-Yes, let's open it.

-Take that lid back carefully.

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Fabulous. Am I allowed to pick them up?

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Well...

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I've got to dance, have I?

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Well, let's put these on.

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So, take your pick.

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Can I pick one out?

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Let's have a look.

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-It's Mr. Shakespeare.

-Correct.

-Very appropriate, isn't it?

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Shakespeare was fundamental to her whole life.

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You know, she was the ultimate Shakespearean actress.

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-Yes, absolutely.

-And the base of it?

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The base of it... Purple.

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We like purple.

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Well, these have absolutely perfect inclusions inside the stone,

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which are called tiger stripes, and that is very indicative of amethyst.

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-Next?

-Next, OK. I think I'll pick out these earrings in their fitted box.

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Good, I'm glad you selected those.

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-Prime Victoriana, would you not agree?

-Absolutely.

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I thought you would like the turquoise, the way they're set almost like Liquorice Allsorts.

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Yes, it does! They do look like that.

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-Little clusters like that.

-Well, turquoise was one of the oldest and first gemstones ever to be mined.

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How far back does it go?

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Gosh, thousands and thousands of years.

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I'm going to move you on to what you must have seen winking in the corner there.

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No, no, I've been waiting for you, John, to get your hands on this.

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-There we are.

-Oh, look at that.

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So... Take it out, go on.

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And the fact that the clasp here has got its own special area.

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A kind of cavity for it.

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Look at this!

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That's amazing.

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-Come on down.

-That is amazing, amazing.

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What is it made of?

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What's it made of?

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I have to give it a sniff test.

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Why are you doing that?

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Old habits die hard.

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No, because gold doesn't smell.

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But if it's silver gilt or silver, you will smell the tarnish smell.

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Exactly. So?

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But this doesn't smell of anything to me.

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-So what is it?

-Gosh, so it's gold!

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Oh! That is amazing.

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It looks very heavy, doesn't it?

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It does, yes. It is very deceiving because it is, in fact, quite light.

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It is, isn't it? These long gold chains reached a peak of popularity in about 1830, 1835,

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so this is George IV to William IV, but the key component

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of the chain is quite clearly the clasp, which is fashioned as a hand.

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If you don't mind me saying, the primary reason

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why I wanted to get you down here to look at all this collection was to look at this one piece.

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This is absolutely fabulous.

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Look, it's got the different coloured metals.

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It defies the imagination.

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Can I just ask you to look at the clasp and look at the little tiny stone in the finger.

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The green stone in the finger.

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And, do you know, I think this might be an emerald.

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You get symbols such as hands, hoops, hearts...

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they're all examples of Georgian, William IV, Victorian, sentimentality.

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So it is a sentimental motif. She was on the stage at the Lyceum Theatre...

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thousands of people would queue up to go and see her in her various roles, whatever it may have been,

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as Lady Macbeth,

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Cordelia in King Lear, Ophelia...

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If you imagine the potency of these people, now this is what is left.

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It condenses down to all of this.

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For me, and goodness me, Jo, I have seen a lot of chains, but for me,

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I have never seen one quite of this distinction.

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When you and I handle this piece of jewellery,

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we are touching a piece of jewellery

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that was originally owned by my heroine here, Ellen Terry.

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They are lightning rods between then and now, and that means

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they have a kind of potency about them

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that somehow can sadly be lacking in more ostentatious modern jewellery.

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There you are, there is Smallhythe, what did you think?

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Brilliant, thank you so much for bringing me here.

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Fantastic, I've really got a sense of this lady who was an amazing woman. A real gem of a place.

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Well, it's been my pleasure. I'm so pleased to show this off to you.

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-Oh, thank you.

-It is my gem too.

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-I've got to go now. Are you going to come on the back of the beast?

-Your motorbike?

-My motorbike.

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-No.

-No?

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Those pieces tell us so much about another life and another time.

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Sometimes objects arrive at Roadshows that remind us of darker periods in our history.

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They can make uncomfortable viewing but, equally,

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they serve as important reminders of years that shouldn't be forgotten.

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The slave trade took place between the 16th and 19th centuries.

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Fuelled by an insatiable demand for goods and labour, this period witnessed the trafficking

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of African peoples to the Americas via European ports.

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It is thought that between nine and twelve million people arrived in the New World in this way.

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The facts and figures serve to remind us

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of the brutality of this history.

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For our experts,

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objects like this also bear witness to an uncomfortable era.

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It's not often you're going to see me doing miniatures on the Roadshow,

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but there was this little group

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of miniatures that had something special about it,

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and they brought it to me.

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My family had plantations

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in Jamaica, Barbados, British Guiana and Suranam.

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My husband, not to be outdone, searched around his family,

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cousins and all,

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and he outdid me with this beautiful, beautiful shield

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of all his family, with relatives going back through the generations.

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So, what we're looking at here is an assembly of miniatures

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-that was assembled right at the end of the 18th century.

-That's right.

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Just at a time when Jamaica and all the other West Indies were teetering towards abolition of the slave trade.

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-That's right.

-It represents a very interesting period.

-Yes.

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'Slavery does surface in a lot of what we do.'

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I am interested in the slave trade because, of course,

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it is an immensely important part of our history.

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Many of the houses we go to simply wouldn't be there

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if it hadn't been for the whole trading triangle between Africa, Britain and the West Indies.

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So, it's something we have to face.

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Now, we can't put a name to all of these miniature painters,

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that would take some time, but we are able to identify three of them.

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Gervase Spencer at the top,

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this is Charles Jagger, and this is by Daniels of Bath and Plymouth.

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Those are the three best.

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Well, on the outside, of course, you have got this lovely family collection of lovely portraits,

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of lovely people, who've stepped out of the lovely pages of Jane Austen.

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But, behind it of course, once you start digging, you realise

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that these people, this family, was actually based on,

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or derived their wealth from, the slave trade.

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Letters, diaries and historic documents regularly illuminate the past on the show,

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but as Clive recalls, few can be as shocking as those

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which set out in minute detail the terrible trade in human beings.

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I have seen many ships' accounts and copy letter books,

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for the most part they are terribly boring, but here,

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what a gruesome tale unfolds when you actually read through these.

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Gruesome, and at the same time, I have to say, rather fascinating.

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These are all slaves that were actually sold,

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and the names of the people who actually bought them down on this side here.

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This is the most incredible account.

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When I saw the ledger it certainly didn't give me any feelings

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of the Pirates Of The Caribbean.

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There was no joy in it at all, really.

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It was just trafficking human flesh.

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'It's a shock, I have to say.'

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"The sale of 234 slaves imported in the ship Dalrimple.

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"Pat Fairweather, Master, out of Africa."

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He bought two men there at £40 each, £80, and so it goes on.

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On to the following page, and this is 1778, don't forget, and the price here,

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the sum total is £6906.

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-That's a hell on lot of money.

-It is in those days.

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Quite remarkable.

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It was quite detailed and it had lists of slaves and how expensive they were.

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'Strong men were fetching £100.' Tell me the history.

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I understand that they were going to be destroyed

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-and my father, approximately 50 years ago, rescued them, really.

-Where were they?

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They were in an old farm building, as far as I understand it.

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-I think he was clearing it out and someone was told just to burn them all.

-Yes.

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Father managed to rescue just a few of them.

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Just a few. The feeling in my water is that it is probably a very valuable collection.

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I happen to feel shocked when I see a slavery inventory like that.

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It brings it home to you in real terms what the slave trade was like.

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That human beings could be trafficked in this way.

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It just showed how unfair life was for these people.

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A significant campaigner in the movement to end slavery came from a familiar name on the Roadshow,

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porcelain manufacture Josiah Wedgwood.

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Lars Tharp found evidence of his important influence in Wells.

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"Am I not a man and a brother?"

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And there is the figure of a kneeling slave.

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"British and Foreign Anti-Slavery society".

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-What an interesting object that is.

-Very interesting.

-How did it come to you?

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In 1960 my mother bought a table from a friend of a friend who was moving into an old people's home.

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She paid £5 for the table, which was a Victorian card table.

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A beautiful table, she has still got it. That was in the drawer.

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The little cameo that was discovered in the back of a piece of furniture was

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an amazing discovery.

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To me, if I found something like that I'll would have said,

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"This is the valuable object, forget the piece of furniture."

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Maybe rosewood with a steel cuff and then this lovely cameo.

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Let's see whether it works.

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Actually, it shows you just how finely carved that is.

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This is an image I recognise from my ceramics background.

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In 1787, Josiah Wedgwood, who was a prominent member of the Anti-Slavery Society,

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commissioned one of his artists -

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we think it was William Hackwood, a very, very talented carver of cameos -

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to create a special medallion which shows a kneeling slave.

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Well, the abolitionist cause,

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the anti-slavery cause, began to get going in the 1780s.

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Josiah Wedgwood was a prominent figure.

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He was responsible for creating or commissioning one of his modellers to make the celebrated little cameo

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which was then mass produced, which was then sold or given to people who

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were like-minded, along with Wedgwood.

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This was the way in which these prominent members of society,

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one of the ways, in which they spread the word.

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Wedgwood's own cameos, the seals on the back of envelopes.

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This was the great and the good trying to convince the other

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great and the good that slavery was a bad thing.

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It took them almost two generations to achieve that.

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This is an incredibly poignant piece of social history,

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and for that reason it is going to be worth a lot more than your average cameo.

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-I'm going to say it is worth somewhere in the region of £1,500 to £2,000.

-Really?

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Well, the value is meaningless, really, because it'll go back in the drawer.

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Lars Tharp unpicking a story that haunts us even today.

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We are just about there for today's selection from the archives.

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Join us tomorrow when we will bring you more memorable moments on Priceless Antiques Roadshow.

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