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I'm Eric Knowles and I'm surrounded by people with broken antiques.

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They're here to see if we can give them a new lease of life and maybe make a bit of money along the way.

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Find out how much on Restoration Roadshow.

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We've come to imposing Chatsworth in the heart of the Peak District

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for today's Restoration Roadshow.

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It's a grand setting for a fascinating programme, and I'm really excited

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about what's been arriving through the gates here in sunny Derbyshire.

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It's a beautiful piece of walnut, it just oozes warmth.

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But what everyone wants to know is, are they valuable?

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If I want to go and buy one of these,

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the price tags are in the sort of £4,000 to £5,000 bracket.

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Are they worth cleaning up and restoring?

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It would be quite nice to have it restored and then pass it on to my family.

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-15, 18, 20...

-And will the restoration add to their value...

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-1,004.

-..when it comes to auction?

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At 1,800...

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Coming up on today's programme, remember the biblical story with animals coming in two by two?

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Well, these creatures have had a rough journey.

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Some of them are in desperate need of a vet.

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It looks like this Victorian Noah's Ark needs a miracle.

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And could this 17th century gent be related to the painting's current owner?

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It's hard to tell beneath all that grime.

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It's not city dirt.

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Oh, no, what have we here?

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Two headless 1930s ladies.

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Can we revive them, and will they make some money at auction?

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We've got lots of bidding on them.

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This 450-year-old estate is home to the Duke of Devonshire, and this elegant 18th century

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cascade water feature makes a lovely backdrop for our restorers.

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They've really got their hands full today, with broken furniture,

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cracked pots and damaged paintings.

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Elizabeth Wilbur and Nancy Pulley have brought along

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a charming and unexpected piece of history.

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I don't mind confessing that, of all the Bible stories I read as a boy,

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the one that filled me with total dread was the story of Noah's Ark.

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The minute I read it, I was keen for my dad to build one,

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just to be on the safe side.

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I know for a fact that in this case,

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this is not a toy that you've been playing with at any stage.

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I believe it's from the local museum.

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Yes, this was donated to the Bakewell Old House Museum.

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What sort of date has been placed on it?

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I thought it was Victorian, but I'm told it's Edwardian.

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Well, here's a bit of controversy, because I don't think it's Edwardian for a minute.

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I think it's very early Victorian, and the reason I say that to you

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is because the later Victorian ones were actually printed with designs.

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I've got my eyeglass here,

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and if I look very carefully at the decoration,

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that is definitely painted, which is a good sign, a nice, early sign.

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These are going to be period, whereas these fellas here are not.

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The reason being... Whoops, there you go.

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These are carved wood and these are metal.

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These may well have been made by a firm in the 1920s or the 1930s.

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But they are very vulnerable, because first of all,

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the animal's legs are very thin sticks of wood, basically.

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Let me just tell you that if I wanted to go and replace this today,

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I would struggle to find one of this period

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-with this many animals for less than £2,500 to £3,000.

-No!

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-Yes!

-No!

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Yes! Yes, yes, yes!

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It's important for you to know that.

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I thought it was a tatty old thing.

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But as I said, I think that your animals are in desperate need of

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a veterinary surgeon.

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Our vet is really a master restorer.

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Rod Titian learnt the art of gilding from his dad at just 14.

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He specialises in decorative pieces,

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some of which can be found in Kew Palace.

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Wow, look at this.

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Lovely. OK, it's museum, so the first thing that strikes me is that

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it's not going to be restoration, it's going to be conservation.

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We're going to conserve and preserve what's there

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just to hold that for future generations,

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which means that what we're going to be doing is quite minimal.

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I'm just going to be looking at the structural aspects.

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Straight away, I can see there are gates that are hingeless

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and some that are hanging off hinges.

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The lid is loose here, isn't it?

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It's going to need a tiny bit of work on the bow over here,

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-which has come away. Is it popular?

-Absolutely.

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Very popular. It's the most popular toy with children, they love it.

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So no pressure for me, then?

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THEY LAUGH

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OK, talking of money, do you have a budget that you want to keep to?

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-Yes, it's 300.

-Right, okay, £300.

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Well, this is the kind of piece that you could spend

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a fair bit of money on, depending on how far you go.

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I'll see what I can do, and I always aim to make people happy.

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-Thank you.

-Now Rod, I can see that you're allowing yourself to become

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emotionally attached to this object, aren't you?

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Unfortunately, these things happen.

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No pressure, Rod, but as long as it can leave here

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in a seaworthy condition, that's all that matters, OK?

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-I'm sure we can do something about that.

-Take it away, captain.

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Aye-aye, sir.

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Even though it's looking a bit seasick,

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I think Noah and his Ark is now worth around about £1,000 to £1,500.

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Rod's going to fix the gates, touch up the boat

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and secure the roof for £300.

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If he manages to do all that

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and this Noah did go to auction,

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I reckon it could fetch

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up to £2,500.

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But it'll call for some delicate brushwork

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if Rod is going to make everything shipshape.

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More and more people are turning up today

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with tricky challenges for our restorers.

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I think there's a bit of veneer work

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needed on the inner panel here, I notice.

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The top has the usual scars of slight misuse and neglect.

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Oh dear, two headless figures.

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But has Roger bitten off more than he can chew

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with Vicky Shore's tragic ladies?

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Roger Hawkins has been in the antiques trade since the 1970s,

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and is one of the leading ceramic restorers in the UK.

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So if anyone can rescue these fair maidens, it's Roger.

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So, two Doulton figures.

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This is the bridesmaid, and what's the other one you have?

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A seated lady, also minus her head.

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-Two headless figures.

-Headless women.

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So what's the story behind this, how was it broken?

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Well, they initially were passed from my grandmother to my mother,

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and unfortunately my mum was looking after my daughter one day

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and she decided she'd like to have a little look,

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as four-year-olds do,

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and she went in there and the shelf on top fell down onto these figures

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which were below and decapitated the poor ladies.

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Well, let's look at this one first, Theresa. Do you know anything about these?

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-Do you know what these numbers here mean?

-No.

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This HN number, from that we can get a good approximate date of it,

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so this would be around at 1938, 1940, maybe.

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Is it something that, because you've inherited it and it's sentimental,

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are you going to keep it?

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No, they're not my style, they're not the style of my home.

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My mum would have said,

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"Sell them and buy something that you like."

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Which is a good idea, yes.

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On this one, the head is off and the little part of the settee

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at the back has broken off.

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To restore that would probably cost around £120, that sort of figure.

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Restored so that it looks absolutely perfect, then that would be,

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I suggest, around £400, maybe £500.

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So spending £120 on having it restored certainly is quite viable.

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The bridesmaid figure is something which is not as valuable as this one.

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To restore this one would probably be in the £70 region, to put that back,

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and I think in auction, that would probably fetch around £100.

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So is that something you would like to go ahead with

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and put them in auction?

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Yes, why not? Absolutely.

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Bang on the nail, Roger.

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Headless women are a bit of a non-starter these days,

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and in this state, these two are worth little more than £100.

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Roger's estimating £170 to restore, and I do think his value is spot on.

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Frankly, I reckon you would be lucky

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to get more than £400 at auction.

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But first, Roger has the delicate task

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of making those necklines irresistible.

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Rather him than me.

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Coming up, a 400-year-old painting.

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One of the simplest materials

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to clean the surface of a painting is saliva.

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Not particularly ladylike, but if it works...

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Find out how Rod's coping with that battered Victorian Noah's Ark.

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And poor old Roger has a case of metal mania on his hands.

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Unfortunately, rivets are a rather unsightly,

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invasive technique for restoration.

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Plenty of antiques have found their way to Chatsworth.

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This is a trench map from the First World War.

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Lots of you seem to have objects cluttering you're homes,

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gardens and garages.

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Well, I like that. That's quite ancient, isn't it?

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And some of you are simply looking for restoration advice,

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like George and Jane Bakewell.

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We are quite attached to it, we've had it a long time now.

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Is he somebody that's been in your family for a while?

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It was a bit of a joke, actually.

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We had fairly recently moved into an old house,

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and when we had redecorated it, I said,

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"We need some ancestors to hang on these walls."

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And some time later,

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my husband came home and said, "I've found your ancestor."

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So did your ancestor come cheap or did he come at a price?

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-We paid £3,000 for it.

-OK.

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Do you know the artist concerned?

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It has always been attributed to

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Cornelius Jansen, otherwise known as Johnson.

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Cornelius Johnson was a 17th century English painter

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famous for his portraits.

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I don't think this chap is looking too bad for his age,

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but after 400 years,

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he might appreciate a little bit of skin care.

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Time to call in the expert.

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Lucia Scalisi was a senior conservator

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at London's Victoria and Albert Museum for 12 years.

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Since then, her restoration work has taken her across the globe,

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from Calcutta to Georgia.

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What about this portrait?

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What can you see that is really needing your attention?

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First of all, it's a fantastic portrait,

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and I can see straight away it's had some restoration treatment in the past, which is probably 19th century.

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In terms of what's happening on the surface, it's fairly obvious there are a lot of scuff marks

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and scratches here, they're the matt areas. What I'm proposing to do today

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is a superficial cleaning of the surface dirt and then a revarnish.

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What will happen is,

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the re-varnishing will re-saturate all these scuff marks,

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and if I just wet those areas with my swab here,

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this area down here which is quite damaged,

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if I wet over it, you can see it wets out the surface

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and a lot of the scuff marks will disappear.

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Some of the scuff marks are very deep gouges in the paint there,

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so paint is actually lost from those areas,

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and there's nothing I can do about that today,

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because that's quite a major conservation treatment.

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But certainly today, we can improve the whole surface.

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What sort or money are we talking about to do this job?

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Sort of £250, £300?

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-Yes, I think that's OK.

-Sounds OK?

-Yeah.

-Good.

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It's hard to give an accurate valuation for this painting,

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but it is a handsome piece

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and I think currently worth around about £2,000.

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Lucia is going to give it a clean for £250-300.

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If proven to be by Johnson,

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you're looking at nearer

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the £8,000 mark.

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Hats off to any man like George who'd buy his wife a painting.

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I only hope my other half's not watching.

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I reckon a few hundred pounds on restoration is money well spent.

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But what will Lucia uncover

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when she gives this chap a 21st century facelift?

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Many items you bring to our roadshow need serious attention.

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If you want to save an object for future generations,

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it's more about sentiment value than auction price.

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But for those of you wishing to sell,

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the cost of restoration can sometimes be simply not worth it.

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Linda Tinker has turned up with some plates

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that are definitely showing their age.

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So, three what look like Derby plates. Where did you get these from?

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In a box from auction with other things.

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Ah, the famous box of miscellaneous.

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-Yes.

-And do you know anything about these, about Derby,

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their date etc, and value?

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I've looked it up and they date to about 1903.

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Spot on. You can see you've got an impressed mark there,

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which says 3-02, so we know it's 1902, 1903, quite easy to date.

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What do you want from these plates?

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Are they something you hope can be restored?

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Well, just to see what could be done with them.

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Obviously, they have already had some restoration,

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and whether it would be better to leave them as they are

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or to have them re-restored, if you like.

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Unfortunately, rivets are a rather unsightly,

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invasive technique for restoration.

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They're certainly an old repair,

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perhaps not long after they were made,

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and they used rivets in those days

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simply because they didn't have the glues available

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to glue porcelain.

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The plates themselves aren't hugely valuable,

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but like this in this condition, they're almost worthless.

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What do you think of their value,

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assuming they're in perfect condition?

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I would have thought £100 to £150.

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Yes, probably nearer £100, I think,

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because they're very, very collectible.

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Sadly, they never will be worth anything like that now.

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The time involved in taking all this apart and putting it back together,

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there's quite a few hours work in doing that,

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so you're probably looking at something in the order of about £50 a plate.

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As much as I hate this ugly rivet repair, Roger's got it right.

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They're not of much value at the moment.

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Restoration would cost £150,

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and after that they'd probably

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only reach around £100 at auction.

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But Linda's keen to see if they can make her some money,

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so we'll find out later how they fare.

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Coming up, Roger's decapitated 1930s ladies prove a bit headstrong.

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The first problem you have is when you put the head back on,

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it keeps falling off.

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Lot number 90 is the Royal Doulton figure...

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So, will a suitor come forward when they go to auction?

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Remember this fantastic Noah's Ark?

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It's a much-loved toy at the local museum,

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but it's taken quite a battering,

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so Rod's been painstakingly painting and piecing it back together.

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At the moment, I'm just putting back a tiny bit of the colour

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on the bow where it was missing.

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So, where the paint has actually come through

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and you can see the white underneath, which is the substrate,

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I'm just putting back a bit of the colour.

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And because this is more a conservation job than restoration,

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I'm not really improving it to how it was when it was first made.

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All I'm doing is just putting back a bit of colour to

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take the eye away from the areas that are disturbing.

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Obviously, it's very hard not to go overboard.

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You have to really reserve yourself

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when doing this kind of conservation work.

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OK, I'm going to leave that because I don't want to overdo it.

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It still looks old and as if I haven't touched it.

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The fact that it still looks as if it needs a bit of work is perfect, as far as I'm concerned.

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And it's not just Rod who's been working the paint pots.

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Lucia is uncovering the true character

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of this handsome 17th century portrait.

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The best thing to clean a painting with is something we all have -

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although using it is a challenge for experts only.

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One of the simplest materials

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to clean the surface of a painting is saliva.

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One of the problems with using saliva,

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which is quite a complicated mixture of enzymes

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and collating agents and amino acids,

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is that you can't clean a whole painting with it

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because you actually run out of saliva.

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So Lucia uses artificial saliva made up of a chemical enzyme,

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but what is this concoction actually removing?

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The dirt that's coming off this painting is general dirt

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from any household, really.

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It's not city dirt. City dirt is a completely different colour,

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a completely different texture, much greasier, much greyer.

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It's not nicotine, so whoever has this painting doesn't smoke,

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which is rather nice. It's just households dust and dirt,

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years of it hanging on a wall.

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But you can get an idea of what it's going to look like

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once it's been cleaned and revarnished.

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You really get a good saturation of the colours,

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you get a much better idea of how it's meant to look

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than you did before,

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when it was just covered in this sort of smoggy veil of dirt and dust.

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And once this veil has been lifted,

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will this 17th century fellow make Jane swoon?

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All will be revealed later.

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Coming up, what will Elizabeth and Nancy make of Rod's new home

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for Noah's animals? Are you ready?

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We are.

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With no end of broken antiques turning up today,

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our restorers have been working their socks off.

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It just needs to very slightly ping and you've lost it,

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you have to start again.

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And for Roger, putting these two Royal Doulton ladies

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back together again

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is proving a bit of a headache.

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The first problem we have is,

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when you put the head back on with the glue,

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what are you going to do while it's setting,

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because it keeps falling off?

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So we have to do something, we have to balance it while that head

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is resting. So, we have a very, very easy solution.

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We just put it into a bowl of gravel at an appropriate angle,

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so that when we glue it on

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it rests perfectly in alignment.

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Let's have a go at mixing the glue, and the good thing about this glue

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is that, as you can see, it's a water white glue and it never yellows.

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Then we just coat the glue on to one surface. Never both surfaces.

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That then goes into the gravel at that angle I've predetermined,

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and that head should now

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just rest on there.

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I will just give it a gentle, sustained pressure,

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and I'll leave that now.

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This glue is slow setting,

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so I would leave that for, ideally, about 24 hours before I touched it.

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Roger has to repeat the same time-consuming process

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for the other figure before carefully packing them up

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and returning to his workshop,

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where he has special tools to fill the cracks and paint the joins.

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It's a fiddly job, Roger,

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but I can't wait to see the ladies looking their best,

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and hopefully the buyers will love them when they go to auction.

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Back at the roadshow, it's the bit I enjoy best.

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All our restorers' hard work is hopefully about to pay off.

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It's fingers crossed as we return the restored treasures

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back to their owners.

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-Oh, that's fantastic.

-The bubble's gone.

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Rod's been working on that lovely Victorian Noah's Ark,

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and it's about to be relaunched.

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To use a biblical quote,

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I think we're about to experience "revelations", I think.

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Looking at your faces,

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-there's a certain amount of anticipation, yes?

-A little.

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Shall we reveal all?

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-Let's get on with it.

-Let's do it.

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-Are you ready?

-We are. There we go.

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Oh, it's magnificent!

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It's wonderful!

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Go and have a play.

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Oh, my goodness!

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It's just lovely to see the gates on.

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I'd like to keep it for myself, actually, take it home!

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Maybe you could take it in turns.

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Before Rod got to work the Ark look shabby and a bit leaky,

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but now it's totally transformed.

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He's repaired the gates,

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fixed the roof and touched up the paintwork,

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while carefully conserving the weathering acquired over the years.

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So how do you think your museum committee

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are going to react to you going out and spending £300?

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Could you think of a better way of spending it?

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No, I could not. I think they'll be absolutely stunned

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and it will get pride of place in our museum.

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The beauty of this, as I have said earlier,

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it's conservation, so it's preserving it.

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What I've done is make it look like it still needs potential work.

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-It is so much better.

-Thank you ever so much.

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You're most welcome.

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It has been a pleasure working on it, it really has.

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-That's even better.

-And from our point of view,

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it's good for us to know that when we leave Chatsworth,

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we're leaving behind a vestige of what this programme's all about,

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and that's giving pieces like this

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a new lease in life.

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Rod's performed miracles.

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Meanwhile, Lucia's been hard at work

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trying to uncover the true beauty of this 17th century oil painting.

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Are you excited about seeing your painting?

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I'm excited, but I'm horribly nervous as well!

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All right. So, we will do a reveal and let's see what you think.

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Oh, my goodness!

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That is so different.

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You can see his hair,

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his clothes, he's even got a sparkle in his cheeks.

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That is amazing.

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I couldn't agree more, Jane.

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Before, the painting's surface was dull and lifeless,

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the details on the poor man's face and coat

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hidden beneath 400 years of grime.

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But no more.

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The veil has been lifted, the warm colours and fine brushwork

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are clear to see, bringing the portrait vividly to life.

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We can now see this proud 17th century fellow in all his glory.

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Thank you very much for all your hard work, I really appreciate it.

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-It's a beautiful portrait.

-Thank you.

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Lucia's done a great job, and I think this handsome gentleman

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wouldn't look out of place hanging here at Chatsworth.

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Our restorers have had a truly interesting and challenging time

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here in Derbyshire,

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and hopefully they've been able to put a smile on quite a few faces.

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Here are some of the treasures that passed through their skilled hands.

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The Victorian animals are safely on board, much to the joy of the museum

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that will preserve this Ark for future generations.

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Lucia delighted us by giving this 17th century chap

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a wash and brush-up.

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He'll take pride of place in Jane's sitting room.

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Coming up for auction,

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we have these unrestored Crown Derby plates, rivets and all.

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And what will Vicky say when she's reunited

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with her 1930s headless ladies?

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Will they find any admirers when they go under the hammer?

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It's auction day at Bamfords in Derby.

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The place is buzzing with people all keen to see what they can bag today.

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Do remember that auction houses charge fees and commission,

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and everything that's been restored will be noted in the catalogue.

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But before we can begin, it's time Vicky saw her Royal Doulton ladies.

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She's with her daughter, Holly,

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the culprit responsible for the damage in the first place.

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-There you are.

-That's amazing.

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Absolutely amazing.

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You can't see the join.

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That's fantastic, absolutely fantastic.

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He's even repaired the little flowers.

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You just can't tell.

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Absolutely amazing.

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It's an extraordinary transformation.

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Once, these pitiful ladies were in pieces,

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their pretty heads lying helplessly at their feet.

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But now they're intact,

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they look fabulous and they can hold their heads high.

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Roger has really done us proud.

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Before he got to work, these ladies were of no great value,

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and while Roger's ingenious restoration work cost Vicky £170,

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it means that these Royal Doulton figurines,

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now being sold together, could fetch £400.

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But not wanting to let the ladies go for nothing,

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Vicky has put a £300 reserve on them.

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Lot number 90...

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And now their number's up.

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There we go, they're being held aloft.

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-I have got lots of bidding on them.

-Have we?

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It will start with me at £270.

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Fantastic.

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At £270, 280 now.

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At £270. 280, 290, 300?

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300. 300. We've gone to 300.

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-At 290.

-290, where is he?

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I can't see, I'm looking hard...

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-All done at 290.

-Come on.

-No! £10 more!

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-Come on, one more bid.

-Those remain with me.

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At 290, that's just so near yet so far.

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-I know.

-Not to worry.

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I'm not heartbroken, no.

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-You're not heartbroken?

-Absolutely not, no.

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At least they're two girls that may have lost their heads,

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-but they've got their act back together, haven't they?

-Absolutely.

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Well, you can't win them all.

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-But it's not all over for us just yet.

-Lot 110.

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Next to be served up are Linda's three Crown Derby plates.

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They're unrestored as Roger didn't think they were of much value,

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but surely she'll get a few bob for them.

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Here we go, we're off.

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Nicely decorated...

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We've got three of them, we don't him to hold up three.

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-£30? 20 then. £20 is bid to my left.

-Where is he going? Come on.

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-At £20 and two now.

-20... He's got 20.

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-At £20 and two do I see?

-£20...

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Come on, boys and girls, lets get it up. Come on, auctioneer.

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£20, 405, thank you, sir.

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£20.

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Well, it's hardly a king's ransom, is it?

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No, but not a bad result.

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No, it is a result because they sold, didn't they?

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Yeah. I got them for nothing so we've not lost anything.

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They were in a box of assorted items at the bottom, so a result.

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Well, no real high-flyers today, but no shortage of satisfied customers

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whose antiques we've saved from the scrapheap.

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Until the next time, it's goodbye from Restoration Roadshow.

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