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'Britain is stuffed with places famous for their antiques | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
'and each object has a story to tell.' | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Hello! | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
'I'm Tim Wonnacott, and as the crowds gather | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
'for their favourite outdoor events around the country, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
'I'll be pitching up with my silver trailer...' How do you do? | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
'..to meet the locals with their precious antiques and collectables.' | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
I'm feeling inspired myself, thank you very much. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
'Their stories will reveal | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
'why the places we visit deserve to be on | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
'the Great Antiques Map of Britain. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
'Today, we're in Wales, at the Hay Festival in Hay-on-Wye. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
'Lots of eager owners have come along | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
'to show us their intriguing items...' | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
The biggest thrill of all for me | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
is this very rare object. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
'..which represent this area's unique antiques heritage.' | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
Of course, it's very nice, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:01 | |
but Huntington is a very close neighbour to Hay-on-Wye. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
-It is indeed. -Which is where we are today. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
'Also, of course, they want to find out | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
'what their precious objects are worth...' | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
£250. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
Under £100. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
The top end of £5,000. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
'..and here's today's mystery object.' | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
That's a big hint as to what this thing was used for. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
'Hay-on-Wye's a tricky old place to identify.' | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Hello! | 0:01:28 | 0:01:29 | |
'Officially, it's in the Welsh county of Powys, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
'but as far as the Royal Mail is concerned, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
'it's in the English county of Herefordshire.' | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Now, you've probably heard of Hay-on-Wye because of the books, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
but I can tell you | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
there's more than meets the eye, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
here in Hay-on-Wye. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
'For ten days a year, it's positively rammed, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
'with 85,000 visitors flocking to the festival | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
'whatever the weather. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
'But in times gone by, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
'it was the river which kept this place alive, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
'providing a vital trading link between Wales and England. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
'I've brought the old rig to Hay Castle, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
'which was originally built in the 12th century. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
'I don't suppose we'll find any objects as old as that today, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
'but you never know! | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
'We're bright in spirit - | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
'even if the weather is dull as ditch water. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
'Cheery Diana has come to see us | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
'wearing her grandmother's traditional Welsh costume.' | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
It's all over 100 years old. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
I try to wear it on St David's Day if I can, in Hay. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
If it's a fine day, I'm quite happy to wear it | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
and walk around town and cause a few people to glance at me. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
Well, I must say, it looks very fetching, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
-if you don't mind me saying so... -Oh, thank you. No, I don't mind at all. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
-Now, this apron is quite coarse. -It is. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
What's the material? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
-Flannel. -Flannel, Welsh flannel. -Welsh flannel. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
But in a rather fetching pinstripe. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
The strips always went down, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
because it's flattering. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
-There's a fashion tip for us all. -Now there you are. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
And the shawl? | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
This is the everyday shawl, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
I mean, the houses were very cold - | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
they only had the one fire in the range, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
so they needed warmth, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
and these are all flannel, made from sheep's wool. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
-And that's Welsh again, is it? -So they're all amazingly warm. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
And your arms are covered in these cotton or linen... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
-Sleeves. -..sleeves. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
The work that ladies had to do was very hard - | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
they had to black lead grates, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
scrub stone floors | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
and they had, usually, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
a blouse with a three-quarter sleeve, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
so that when they were washing... | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
-You know, the sleeves wouldn't get wet. -Yeah. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
They would put these sleeves on to look smart. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Now, the number one Welsh feature, though, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
has to be the stovepipe hat. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
-Can I have a look at it? -You may. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:01 | |
Now, I've never handled one of these - | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
and it is magnificent, isn't it? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
It's light, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
the thing is covered in this silk plush... | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
Oh, yes - silk plush on buckram. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
..and if I turn it upside down... | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
Oh, look - we've got the maker's name in it - | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
"Carver and Co, King Street, Carmarthen". | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
-Now, you can't get much more Welsh than that, can you? -No, you can't. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
So your family can date this hat back to the 1870s, then? | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
1870-1890, yes. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Brilliant. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
-And underneath it, you wear this cap... -a bonnet. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
..and it's trimmed with lace, is that Welsh lace? | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Oh, I don't know. I hope so. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
So do I. Anyway, we must replace it immediately. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
You'd like me to put it on? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
Please, if you wouldn't mind, cos it just completes the ensemble. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
'But how much would you have to part with | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
'for an original costume like this? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
'Find out later! | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
'Coal mining was once the biggest single employer in Wales. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
'Among the workforce was a sure-footed fleet of ponies, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
'to undertake much of the drudgery. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
'Next, we have a curious object relating to those pit ponies, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
'which has been brought along for valuation by Sandra.' | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
I don't know what it... Quite what it is. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
I had it given me for a pit pony, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
from a gentlemen that worked in the pits, looking after ponies - | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
and he said it was a pit pony tool, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
so I don't know any more than that. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
What do you like about it, do you like the timber? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
It's the timber. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
Yeah, it's quite a weighty thing when you're actually holding it - | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
and if you look carefully, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
this has got quite a close grain, this timber. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
It's not mahogany, it's not oak. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
I think it's a fruit wood. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
I think it could be apple or pear | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
and that apple or pear bow has then gone onto a lathe. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
It's been turned - it's been turned and tapered. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
And then we get down to this globular bit at the bottom | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
and it's been reinforced with some sections of iron here | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
that have gone all rusty. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
But the intriguing thing for me is the stamp here, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
because if you look, it says "Arnold and Sons" | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
and that's a big hint | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
as to what this thing was used for. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
If we pull the handle, it reveals a length of steel there, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
and it...withdraws into the tube... | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
the flat plate on the bottom. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
I date this thing to about 1860 | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
and it's called a balling gun, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
or dosing tube. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
So the vet would put his medicine in there, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
it could be a fluid medicine, or something more sinister. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
He'd load it up like that | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
and the poor old pit pony | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
would then be required to open its mouth | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
and you'd jam that thing down the pit pony's throat | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
and then when it's well and truly down, you go... | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
like that and fire a great dose of medicine | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
down the back of its throat. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
And that is all in the name of getting the pony better. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
What's it worth? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
'Have a guess and soon, all will be revealed! | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
'Now, what's the best thing you can buy around here for under a pound?' | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
-Hello there, how are you? -Very well, thank you. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Jolly good, nice to see you. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
'It's as many crossings as you want in a day, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
'over this delightful old toll bridge, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
'which is owned by Maggie.' | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Now, this bridge has been here for how long? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
-Oh, 240 years. -Is it? -Yeah. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
And how did it come about? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
There were two main houses, where they had farms both sides | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
and actually needed to take their animals across to | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
the common land, which is over there. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
And to get to build the toll bridge, what would they have to do? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Go to parliament, ask a question in parliament | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
and have it ratified and agreed. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Pitt the Younger was the Prime Minister at the time. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
He ratified thousands of these with Acts of Parliament. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
All had different little nuances in them. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
-Take so many cows... -Yes. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-Take so many pigs... -Absolutely, yes. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Yeah, no, brilliant, brilliant. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
And that statute is what gives you the legal right | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
-to continue with the toll today. -Absolutely, yeah. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
When was that ratified then, roughly? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
The final one was 1797. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-Right. -So some of the bits of the bridge you're standing on now | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
-are 200 years old. -Are they really? -Yeah. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
-Now you tell me, now that I'm standing on it. -MAGGIE LAUGHS | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
-Yes, some people do say, "Is it safe?" -Just tell me, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
why didn't they just have a stone bridge all the way, then? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Oh, really interesting. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
They did originally build it all in stone, so the two stone arches | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
-you see were all continued to stone in the middle... -Yes. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
..but, as today, look at the speed of that water - | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
it's really in spey at the moment. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
-It's vicious, isn't it? -It is, it's really high at the moment. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
And what happened was, when it was so high, the stone just... | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
-The mortar just washed away. -Oh, did it? | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
So they then went back to Parliament and had it re-ratified, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
to say that they could build it in greenheart oak. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
-When it comes to the big old replacement cost... -Oh, yes. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
..which is going to be the major stanchion somewhat, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
-it's going to be a number, isn't it? -1993, it was £300,000. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
-Was it really? -Yeah. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
And how much is your toll? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
-80 pence, per day. -80p a day? -Yeah. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
So I can go back and forth as many times as I like? | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Any number of times. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
The Hay Festival must have made quite a difference to your business. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Oh, it's huge for us. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:21 | |
The first week, we take 10% of our income on these 10 days. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
Do you? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
'So the festival effect is felt here too | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
'and the town of Hay-on-Wye would not be as well connected | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
'without this little toll bridge. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
'That little bridge was built | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
'well over 100 years after this map was produced | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
and it belongs to Ant.' | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
Map is of Herefordshire County | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
and it's got all the castles in Herefordshire on it, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
as far as we can make out. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
It's got lots of other information on it | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
which we're not quite sure about, | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
which hopefully Tim will be able to help us sort out | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
and work out a bit more about it. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Now, is Herefordshire your home county? | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
-Um, it is now. -It is now? | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
Definitely yes, yes - | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
and I have... My grandfather, who bought the map originally, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
-is born in Herefordshire. -And where was he born? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
He was born in a little village called Huntington, which is up here. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Oh, right. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
So he was attracted to the map because it related to his county. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
-Yes. -And that's why he had it framed up and hung it at home. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
-Absolutely. -And of course, it's very nice that Huntington | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
is a very close neighbour to Hay-on-Wye. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
-It is, indeed. -Which is where we are today. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
The map-maker was a man called John Speed - | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
and the way that Speed went about producing these maps | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
was completely novel. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
First of all, he came up with | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
the idea of producing a map county by county - | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
that had not happened before 1612. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
And then he introduced these little vignettes. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
So on this side of the Herefordshire map, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
we've got the City of Hereford as a kind of road map, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
which hadn't happened before Speed came up with this arrangement. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
-Right. -And then he included local aristocratic families, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
with their coats of arms. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
And then, of course, they're coloured - | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
and they're not coloured by a printing process - | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
all these colours are put on by hand, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
with a person with a watercolour pot, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
so it's a heck of a lot of work. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Yes. Crumbs, didn't appreciate that, yes. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
And strangely enough, the value varies, county by county, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
depending on how prosperous the inhabitants are. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
-Oh, right. -Yes. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
The valuation of these maps is a complete nightmare, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
because Speed, having come up with | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
the original printed edition in 1612... | 0:11:38 | 0:11:44 | |
The plates were then used | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
for at least 50 further years - | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
into the 1660s - | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
and it's very difficult to identify | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
the precise printing date in that long period. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
What is pretty well certain is | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
that this one would have been produced before 1646. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
Oh, gosh, didn't realise it was that old, gosh. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
And I guess if you wanted to sell it, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
you'd probably get at auction maybe sort of £250-£350, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
something like that. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
It's a genuine old map. Very, very nice. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Oh, thank you. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
'In the literary festival's tented village, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
'visitors are immersing themselves in books | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
'and merrily mingling with authors and celebrities. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
'Meanwhile, at the castle, another local has rolled up | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
'with a couple of family heirlooms he'd like to know more about.' | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Now, Aubrey, this table's had a bit of a hard life, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
so let's pick it up, OK, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
and have a quick bird's eye | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
at the underside... | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
..and this displays characteristics of an 18th century table. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
But once upon a time, somebody's broken that leg off | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
and they've taken a tin of baked beans | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
and they've flattened the tin | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
and then they've screwed the baked bean tin inside that leg, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
to make it nice and firm, all right? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Then another raucous party, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
somebody knocked that leg off | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
and what they decided to do was to put five big screws in that - | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
and that's what keeps that leg on. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Now, these two back legs were once on these rails, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
which were period rails, but you can see the timber there's new, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
that's because that back leg once upon a time broke off | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
and they replaced it with a new piece of timber. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
But basically, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
this is an old table, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
OK? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:37 | |
And it dates - I guess - | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
from about 1770-1780... | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
and once upon a time, it was an immensely grand thing, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
because the timber that they veneered on top of all that pine | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
is mahogany and satinwood. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
Particularly lovely is this | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
satinwood central demi-loom, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
then they've inlayed that with something called garrier, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
which is the shape of a classical husked leaf, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
which is what these things are - | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
and they've done that in swags. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
But, at some point, somebody decided to have their supper off this... | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
-Yeah. -..and unfortunately... | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
it resulted in a bit of a spillage, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
-but it's perfectly easy to get restored. -Yes. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
OK? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Is it a games table or a tea table? | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
We open it up like that and it's got baize inside, so it's a games table. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
All in all, this is what they call a "restoration job" in the trade. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
This table, in brilliant condition, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
is worth about £15,000 | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
and I think it would probably cost you | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
at least £500-£700 | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
to get it decently restored and looking top hole, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
which I guess, gives it a residual value now of about £500. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
So, next... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
a rather fine lithograph. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
James Watt, Britain's premier engineer | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
and inventor of the 18th century. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
I'm descended by five... | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
generations to James Watt. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
-Are you really? -Yeah. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
-Great-great-great-great-great... -Five. -..great, that's five. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
-That's great, isn't it? -Watt? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:18 | 0:15:19 | |
Yes, I mean this is the man who sorted out the steam engine | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
by shoving a condenser on it, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
that effectively led to... | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
-BOTH: -The Industrial Revolution. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
I mean, none of this would have happened without your | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
great-great-great-great-great- grandfather, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
which is quite something. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
And this image is a famous image. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
A man called Francis Chantrey was a sculptor | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
and he famously sculpted James Watt | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
in a bust, dating from 1814... | 0:15:47 | 0:15:53 | |
and he sketched James Watt before he carved the marble | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
and this is a print of the sketch. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
It's a very illustrious family - | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
it must make your bosom swell with pride. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
AUBREY LAUGHS | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
I feel proud for you, so let's not be modest here - | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
he was a great man | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
and we owe a tremendous amount to his inventiveness, actually. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
It's a print, it's not the three grand original, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
but I guess with the connection to your family, nevertheless, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
-it's got to make the thing worth... I don't know, £100-£200. -Yes. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
'So how did Hay become a Mecca for bibliophiles? | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
'Well, largely thanks to this man - | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
'Richard Booth. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
FANFARE | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
'In the 1960s, he recognised the potential of second-hand books | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
'to rescue his town of Hay-on-Wye | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
'from its failing rural economy. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
I don't think any book really is junk, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
this is kind of a religion with me. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
I think I'm just beginning - | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
I think I've got about a million books now. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
I think it's possible to get 5-10 times larger | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
and then I'd hope to, er... | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
bring people in on buses and planes | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
and make it a kind of centre for the second-hand book trade. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
'Initially dealing books from his rather roomy car, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
'he established a second-hand book shop | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
'to attract people from far and wide.' | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
I think I was geographically in a perfect location. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:26 | |
You see, you're a nice hour or two's run from | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Bristol, Birmingham, Cardiff, Swansea... | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
So we had customers who'd come... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
..for a day's outing to Hay. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
The book is the perfect symbol of a nation's culture - | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
therefore, it is the perfect partner of the tourist industry. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
'He bought the local cinema, fire-station and even the castle, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
'filling them all with books. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
'He was an inspiration | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
'and soon, book shops opened all over the town. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
'Then, in 1977, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
'came an ingenious PR stunt.' | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
Tomorrow, Hay-on-Wye announces its intention | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
to become an independent state, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
free from the bureaucracies of central government | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
and able to concentrate on its own products, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
like Hay sausages and Hay bread. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
People of Hay! | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
'Declaring himself King of the Independent Nation of Hay | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
'brought lots of media attention.' | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
It was a joke and it slowly grew into more than a joke. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
Can I see your passport, please? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
We ultimately decided it should be on April Fool's Day. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
'And the world's first book town was born. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
'One of the giants of Welsh literature | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
'is of course, Dylan Thomas | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
'and collector Geoff has brought along some of his works to show me.' | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
I was in school in Swansea Grammar School, which is where Dylan went | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
and I'd heard the name when I was a schoolboy | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
and then I went on to read other stories. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
I've got much more interest in his short stories, I think, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
than in his poetry, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
but I'm growing into his poetry. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
Now, Geoff, I quite like this book, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
because it's got this cracking image of Dylan Thomas on the cover. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
And this is a first edition, dating from 1954. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
Dylan, of course, had died in 1953 | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
and this probably is one of the first | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
collective volumes of a mass of his material | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
-produced after his death, which is interesting. -Yes, yes. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
And I suppose this is likely to be worth... | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
I don't know, perhaps £150, something like that. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
This one is very important to find in its dust cover, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
cos there are lots of these that aren't with dust covers. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
The Map Of Love, which I think | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
was produced as a first edition in 1939... | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
So this is a first edition, I suppose that book today is worth | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
the top end of £600, £500-£600, that sort of amount. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
But the biggest thrill of all for me | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
is this very rare object. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
-Yeah. -Cos if I'm right and if this thing is genuine, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
what we have is Under Milk Wood | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
in the broadcast version, if you like - | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
and on the outside, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
it even records the date of the first broadcast, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
in January 1954. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
And that is a thrill to be able to handle, actually. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
And the value of such a rare item? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Well, you'll have to wait and see. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
'The origins of the Salvation Army date back to 1865. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
'William Booth founded the organisation in London's East End | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
'to help the poor and needy, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
'always galvanised and cheered by music. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
'The Hay branch opened in 1886 with its own band | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
'and an early member and tambourine player | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
'was Anne's great grandmother.' | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
She was in the Salvation Army from about the age of 20. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
She lived in Pontypridd | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
and eventually, she came up here - | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
she was here by 1890. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
-In Hay-on-Wye? -Yeah. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
This was her instrument, was it? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
-That was hers, yes. -OK. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
Salvationists didn't call them "tambourines", | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-they were called "timbrels"... -Right. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
..and it was not thought proper, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
if you were a female in the Salvation Army, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
to perform as part of the band. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
The only instrument that a female Salvationist | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
was allowed to perform with was a timbrel, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
one of these tambourines. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
And so philanthropic was the Salvation Army, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
that they had a works in London | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
that made these timbrels - | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
-that made the tambourines. -Really? | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
And if you were unemployed and a male in London | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
and you needed a bed for the night, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
the Salvation Army would take you in, | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
but your penance the next day | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
was to help in the manufacture of instruments like this. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
And what I think is brilliant is that here we are in Hay-on-Wye, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
your great-grandmother in the Salvation Army | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
would have used this... | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
-Oh, yes, she did... -..on the streets, just down the road. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
If I had to bring a number on it, I suppose it might bring, locally, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
perhaps £50, something like that. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Yeah, but I mean, that's not the value, is it? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
Not at all, but it sure does strike the right note for me. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Oh, thank you very much. Thank you, thank you. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
'The Thames Diamond Jubilee Pageant in 2012 | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
'was a spectacular event, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
'breaking the world record for the largest ever parade of boats. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
'Herefordshire was represented by | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
'a specially built replica of a traditional Wye river trow, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
'named the "Hereford Bull". | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
'Before 1800, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
'Hay-on-Wye relied more or less entirely on the river | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
'for transport of coal, stone, wool - | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
'well, you name it. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
'Locally built trows were a very particular design, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
'to cope with the river's fluctuating water levels, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
'narrow gorges and low bridges. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
'I went to see the Hereford Bull | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
'with the president of the committee that built her - Bob Tabor. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
She's a very sturdy vessel | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
and she's a replica of a vessel | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
which we believe would have traded about 1800, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
used on the Wye to transport cargo | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
from the very early days. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
-And this is it? -And this...this is it. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
And another exciting part, of course, was the fact that | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
local people gave us the timber. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
-Did they? -So we... | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
The trees were chopped down, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
they were made into planks in position | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
and they were transported to Gloucester, where she was made. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Well, she is a very sturdy-looking craft, I have to say. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
You've got a very big tiller on the stern, haven't you? | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
-Yes, you have. -So, a lot of leverage with that. -Yep. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
And I see the rudder goes out a fair old stride at the stern - | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
that's cos you can't have it terribly deep in the water, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
is that right? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:11 | |
Tim, you're absolutely right, she has a very shallow draft | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
and would have to have, obviously, to come up the river | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
when the river was low. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
But of course, the point about these vessels - | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
although she has this wonderful mast and we have a square sail - | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
that sail would probably only have been used when the boat | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
-was sailing through gorges, like Symonds Yat gorge... -Right. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
..where the wind would blow either one way or the other. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
Yeah, you'd be very jammy | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
to get a good wind going up and down reliably. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
Now, tell me, when it comes to bringing her up the river, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
what's the motive power? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
In the earlier periods - | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
14th, 15th, 16th centuries - | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
-it was men. -Was it? | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
They were called "bow hauliers" | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
and there were gangs of men and boys | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
who would be waiting up the Wye | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
to be hired to haul these vessels up. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
-It would have been a long haul. -It would have been a long haul. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
And latterly, of course, they were helped by horses | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
and the towpath became men. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
They would have been shifting all sorts of stone, iron ore, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
coal would have been coming down, agricultural produce... | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
Hay was particularly important | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
when it came to trading on the Wye, wasn't it? | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
It would have been vitally important to them. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
You go back to 1850 and the Severn Estuary is probably | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
the busiest waterway in Europe at that time. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
'Lush forests around Hay | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
'meant that not only trows were built here, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
'but there's a history of all sorts of other woodcraft. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
'Jill's grandfather used local wood to make his furniture - | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
'these pieces are now antiques, made in Hay.' | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
I brought a hall table and a frame - | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
both made by my grandfather - | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
and the frame contains his wedding photograph. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
-He is the hero of our piece, your grandfather, isn't he? -He is. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
-Do you know the date of this photograph? -1914, January. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
And your grandfather and grandmother on this happy occasion lived where? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
Well, my grandfather lived where I live now | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
and that's where he took his bride. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
How lovely. So you're in the old family home? | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
I was born in the old family home, yes - and I still live there. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Would you describe most of your grandfather's furniture | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
-as being chunky? -They're very solid. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
-Yeah, there you go. -And he only worked in oak. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
He only worked in oak and he only worked in solid planks of oak, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
which he then carved up. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
We've got two simple planks | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
which are jointed by a platform in the middle | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
and then we've got this substantial top on it. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
The frame is interesting, too - | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
we've got a long continuous trail of ivy | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
that's in between some bands of what's called "chip carving" - | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
so you take your chisel and you just | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
meter out a little nick like that | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
and oppose those nicks | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
and that's what he's done to create that decorative effect. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
-He was clearly a very talented man. -Oh, yes. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
So how many pieces of your grandfather's furniture | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
have you still got in the house? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
About half a dozen, I suppose. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
-Have you? -Mm. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:05 | |
-That's quite a survival, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
And would you ever sell any of it? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
-Oh, no - definitely not. -Oh, no... -LAUGHTER | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
Well, if I had to put a value on these pieces, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
I have to tell you the value's not going to be tremendously high. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
For this hall table, you would get, at auction, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
probably under £100 | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
and I would guess, maybe £60-£80. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
The photo-frame, strangely enough, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
is not worth a lot less. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
I think you'd get probably £30-£40 for the frame. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Is that right? | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
Anyway, do you want a hand home with it? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
'What about Sandra's pit pony medicine dispenser?' | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
And I think, in the right sort of sale, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
you could get the top end of £250 | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
for this balling gun. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
'To value Diana's traditional costume, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
'we hooked up with Welsh textiles expert Jane Beck for her opinion.' | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
'So I think we're probably looking | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
'around £450-£500.' | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
'And finally, the Dylan Thomas Under Milk Wood script.' | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
And if I'm right and if it is genuine, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
this thing is probably worth the top end of £5,000. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
What a great day we've had | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
and what an eclectic mix of objects | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
here in Hay. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
It certainly puts this place on our antiques map. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
You could say it's a bit of a hurray-day for Hay! | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
Cheerio. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:34 |