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This is my mother and father, Laura and Geoffrey. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
When Shakespeare played, the stage was bare. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Of temple, palace, font or stair. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
Three broadswords fought the battle out. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Three supers made the rabble rout. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
They never were conventional parents. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Here they are, doing what they loved most of all, playing Shakespeare. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
In the land they loved most of all, India. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Here is my space, kingdoms are clay. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
When this footage was shot, in the late 1970s, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
they'd been living there for nearly 30 years. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
They ran a theatre company, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
touring Shakespeare across the subcontinent. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
And I was a part of it from the start. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
I'm Felicity Kendal, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
and I made my stage debut as a baby in India. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
I loved it as my home, until I left for England at the age of 17. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
-SHE SPEAKS HINDI -Mineral water? | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
Now I'm back in the country of my childhood, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
to discover how my family's experiences | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
fit into a bigger drama. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
The extraordinary tale | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
of India's unexpected love affair with Shakespeare. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
My journey will bring me face to face with my family's history... | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Why did you discontinue? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
..closer to Shakespeare... | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
'This is not like it is in Elizabeth Arden, I can tell you.' | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
..and closer to India too. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
There's a legend that Shakespeare was born in south India | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
and his original name was Shishupa Araya. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
I'll uncover a story about art and politics... | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
If you think that people love Shakespeare | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
and I love Shakespeare, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
that's only partially true. The truth is you hate it also. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
..passion and inspiration... | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
And I think one of the reasons Shakespeare works | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
is it's like our epics, you know? | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
It's sort of HUGE life! | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
..and what it means to belong. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
-This is your home. -So I've come back. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
You're always welcome, darling. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Could a relationship forged in the days of Empire | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
still live on in modern, maddening, marvellous India? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
My quest for Indian Shakespeare begins in Kolkata, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
or Calcutta, as we called it when I first lived here. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
I grew up in this city so I know it well. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
And I didn't know about this, but apparently there's a memorial | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
or there's a plaque, or there's something to Shakespeare. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
CAR HORNS BLARE | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Whoops! Someone just went into a bus! | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -I love India! | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
-SHE SPEAKS HINDI -I've asked him to go to the side. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
because I want to ask some people if they know anything about it. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
Excuse me? Excuse me? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Hindi bolte hain? | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
Shakespeare Sarani? | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
-So, Shakespeare Street? Yeah? -Shakespeare Street? | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
Yahan kya hai...er, memorial, plaque to Shakespeare? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
Um, for Shakespeare? | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
-Statue? -Statue, yeah! | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
I don't think there is any statue of Shakespeare. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
-No Shakespeare statue? -No, I don't think. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
OK, thank you. No Shakespeare statue. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
Definitely no Shakespeare statue. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Well, that's a bit of a piss, but never mind. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
I'm not going to give up, because I think there may be. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
SHE SPEAKS HINDI | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
I'm asking if there's a statue to Shakespeare. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
No, he's not interested. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
He sells eggs and he says there is no Shakespeare Sarani, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
so there we go. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
When you ask people the way, they invariably don't know it. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
OK, I'm going to go and see if I can do anything on foot. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
We Kendals seem to have a nose for Shakespeare. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
I knew I'd find him in the end! | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Was it worth it? I'm not sure! | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
There's the little guy. "In memory of the 4th centenary..." | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
CAR HORNS BLARE | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Never film in Calcutta! | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
"..4th centenary of Shakespeare's birth." | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
Well, there you are. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
I'm not surprised nobody knew it was here, to be honest, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
because it's hardly a memorial. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
But it's nice to know he's here, and that's just the beginning. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
Ah! | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
He looks a fish out of water. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
But there's a good reason why he's here. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
Because this was once Calcutta's theatreland. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
That was in the 18th century, after the city was colonised | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
by the merchants of the British East India Company. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
They came to trade, but many ended up settling. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
And one of the home comforts they brought with them | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
was Western-style theatre. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
So this cemetery right in the centre of Calcutta, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
-it's full of Europeans. -Mmm-hmm. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
And these were the people that brought European theatre, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
I guess, to India for the first time. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
-Correct. -And when would that have been? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
In Calcutta, it would have been in the 1760s. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
-Good lord! -Yeah. If not earlier. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
And when would Shakespeare have come in? | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
The earliest records that we have suggest 1780. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
The early shows were exclusively for expats, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
who made up audience and cast. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
At first all the actors were men, just as in Shakespeare's time. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
The first Shakespearean production in 1780 of Othello, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
which is going to be a significant play in Indian Shakespeare, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
mentions the actor who played Desdemona as a Mr H, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:03 | |
"A gentleman of doubtful gender." | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Which is obviously an in joke | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
for the very small community at that time. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
-Oh, Mr H! Oh, to see you now! -It's so contemporary! | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-I wonder if he's here! -THEY LAUGH | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
-Poor Mr H! -We don't know the full name. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
Well, he was probably a very good Desdemona, clearly. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Must have been, yes! | 0:06:22 | 0:06:23 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Is there any point where the Indians | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
are actually acting with the British in a performance? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
Because there's some idea that this never happened. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
No, no, no. In fact, it was a sensation | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
when it did happen in 1848. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
This Bengali gentleman, Baishnab Charan Auddy, A-U-D-D-Y, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
being cast as Othello. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
And the rest of the cast is English. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
And we have snippets from the newspapers of that time, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
and particularly two phrases that I would like to highlight for you. | 0:06:54 | 0:07:00 | |
"A real, unpainted, nigger Othello, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
"who set the whole world of Calcutta agog." | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Now if that's not a sensation with, again, Othello the key play, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
I don't know what is. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
It had repeat performances. People flocked to see it. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
So within these 100 years from the 1750s to the 1850s, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
you had Shakespeare going from being performed | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
only by the British for themselves, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
to Shakespeare being naturalised and accepted. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
It would be another 100 years before my family | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
entered the story of Shakespeare in India. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
And Calcutta was the setting for some of my happiest memories. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
This is Sudder Street, where I grew up. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
And along here, I used to go to school | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
and the place where I'm going to visit | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
is an amazing and wonderful hotel where we stayed every year. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
For more than 70 years, this legendary establishment | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
has been run by the same family. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
I'm nearly here. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
I'm going to meet Violet, who I've known since I was a child, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
and she's usually somewhere around the corner. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Oh, God! | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
Oh, you look absolutely gorgeous! | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
-Look at you! -You're most welcome! | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
You look younger than when I last saw you! | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
My secret is all my lovely toy boys I got rid of. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
-You got rid of them? -Yes, and I'm getting a new set. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
-I'm 91. -You're not! -I am! | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
It's wonderful. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
Oh, I tell you, I remember coming here | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
when I was probably five or six. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
What I remember, and I thought they were wonderful, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-they used to have snake charmers that used to come. -That's right. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
And you could buy a mongoose or not, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
which was a bit gruesome, and have the mongoose killed, or not. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
'The adventures that brought us to the Fairlawn began in 1944, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
'when my parents toured India with ENSA, the army entertainment outfit. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:08 | |
'After the war they returned with their own company. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
'A motley assortment of actors, some British, some Indian, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
'including my big sister, Jennifer, and yours truly. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
'We travelled far and wide, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
'playing Shakespeare to Indian audiences | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
'in schools, theatres and even Maharajah's palaces. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
'Later, our experiences inspired this film, Shakespeare Wallah, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
'in which I acted alongside my parents.' | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
Don't you want to see the wide, wide world? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Plenty of chances there for a bright girl. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
'The film changed the course of my life. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
'It was the catalyst for me to leave India for a new career in England.' | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
HE WHISTLES | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
'My father was furious. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
'He saw it as an act of desertion | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
'and didn't forgive me for several years. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
'I broke the news to him here, at the Fairlawn. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
'And leaving India also meant saying goodbye to childhood friends, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
'including Vi's daughter, Jennifer.' | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
-Oh, my darling! -It's been 47 years | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
-since we've seen each other! -Is it really? | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
When you left Bombay to go to England. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
To do your thing. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
God, we're not that old! It can't be! | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
It can't be 47 years! | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
I'm just having a little weep! I'm crying! | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
We had wonderful, wonderful times, and we were very, very naughty. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
-Very naughty! -We had a wonderful time. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Did we smoke in those days? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:35 | |
-I think we did have our first cigarette. -Did we? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Well, I certainly had my first cigarette in one of these rooms! | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -I'm not quite sure! | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
Probably on the veranda in those days! | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
No, but when we used to come, I was always as a child | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
-rather nervous when everyone was checking out. -Sure. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
-Because my dad very often didn't have enough money. -He always paid. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
Did he? Oh, good. The difference is, he loved it here | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
and he always wanted to come back. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
I think of all the places all over India, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
this was the place that they thought was home. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Well, this IS your home. You're always welcome, darling. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
Wow, this is bringing back some memories. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
I remember up on the roof, open air, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
very early in the morning, we used to rehearse. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
My father would take all his actors up there | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
and rehearse The Merchant Of Venice or something like that. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Along here, we used to stay in these rooms. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
Round the corner is the big, large room | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
where my father used to put on shows | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
for the members of the public who happened to be trapped. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
This hotel was really like my first home, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
and strange enough, this is also where I left to go to England | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
when I was 17, having never been there since I was a baby. | 0:11:54 | 0:12:00 | |
So this was my passage from India, if you like. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
It started here. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
So I left one home to try and find another. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
I have to say, I like this one better. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Calcutta was my first Indian home, and Shakespeare's too. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
But it wasn't long before the word began to spread. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
I've travelled west to Delhi, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
which succeeded Calcutta as the capital of British India. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
By the 19th century, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
the East India Company was extending its reach. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
Backed by the British Government, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
they weren't afraid to use force to secure their interests. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
After claiming new territory, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
they recruited locals to administer their emerging Empire. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
This laid the foundations for the Indian Civil Service | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
and created a demand for educated Indians. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
Shakespeare was about to take centre stage in Indian classrooms too. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:12 | |
There was in fact a very heated debate | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
about the kind of education the East India Company would promote, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:22 | |
between what were called the Orientalists and the Anglicists. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
The Orientalists said | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
education should be conducted in the mother tongues, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
and importance should be given | 0:13:31 | 0:13:32 | |
to the Indian classical languages and literature. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
Naturally, yeah. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
The Anglicists said all education should be in English, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
so that it promotes an understanding | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
of Western literature and Western cultures. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
Macaulay, who was the chief architect of this view, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
believed as he said in his very infamous remark, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
that a single shelf of European literature | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
is worth all the literatures of the Indian languages put together. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
My goodness! The arrogance, isn't it?! | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
It's the arrogance! | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
'In 1835, Macaulay's policy became law, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
'and English became the official language of Indian administration.' | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
And which sees Rosalind setting up her own wooing of Orlando. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:22 | |
English literature courses | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
with Shakespeare in a starring role were common in Indian universities | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
long before they were introduced in Britain. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
But whilst he was promoted as a tool of Empire, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
no one seemed to bargain for the fact | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
that Indians might actually enjoy his plays. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-Why does he ask for a kiss? -THEY GIGGLE | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
-She's disguised herself! -THEY LAUGH AND CHATTER | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Isn't that most natural, when lovers meet? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Before long, Indians weren't only studying Shakespeare, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
they were performing him too. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
And that's when the plays really catch fire. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
I can't imagine how those first students felt | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
when they first crossed paths with Shakespeare. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
So I've travelled to Dhrangadhra, in the state of Gujarat. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
This was once the royal palace. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Now it's a school. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
It was set up 20 years ago by Kanchan Kumari. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Her husband's family once ruled the principality of Dhrangadhra. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
Which one of you is the lady of the house? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
Whence came you, sir? | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Good jattle one... | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
Jattle one? | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
Gentle one. Gentle, gentle. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
Gentle. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:38 | |
'They're rehearsing a show of Shakespeare's greatest hits. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
'He's been on the curriculum since the school began. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
'Quite an act of faith | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
'in a town where most adults don't speak a word of English.' | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
-Gentle. -Mmm. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
Good gentle one. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Give me modest assurance if you be the lady of the house? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
If we were sitting in Delhi or Mumbai or somewhere, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
it would be a more obvious | 0:15:59 | 0:16:00 | |
that you would be doing a Shakespeare play, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
because the language would be English. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
English being a foreign language is very obvious | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
when you walk down the street. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
They'll expect you to understand Gujarati, or then Hindi, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
but never English. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:15 | |
And it will be a strange English that you won't even understand. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
What on EARTH possessed you to think of teaching them Shakespeare? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:24 | |
I think this makes them, in fact, step up a notch in life. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
I really do believe. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:28 | |
I believe the fact of their being exposed to excellence, you know? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
It's not just little children's plays that are boring as hell, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-but these are real things that they do and they enjoy them. -I know. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
The children get it like this. SHE SNAPS FINGERS | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
You know, when you tell them the complicated plot, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
you think it's complicated because you're looking at it as an adult. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
But they are completely fresh. "Yes, I understand this story!" | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Remember, you're a girl disguised as a boy, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
in love with a man who loves her. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
You know, I think that if you learn a foreign language, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
if you are able to do something wonderful with that language | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
in the initial stages, you feel easy about it. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
The lines have to be clear. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
Don't make me stop you. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
Don't do all the funny mistakes that we make sometimes. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
Long sounds. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
"Fool" is a long sound. It's not "full". | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
You're quite strict, though. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
I'm very strict. I'm a harridan! | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
No, I mean, a lot of directors could learn from you! | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
-CHILDREN: -Double, double, toil and trouble! | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
This is not fire. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
This is a lion's claw. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
This is fire. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
I genuinely enjoy working with the children, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
and I think that comes across. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
So they believe it, and then they want to do it. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
And also, I suppose, you could say in a way you're working with | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
-the best texts in the English language. -Absolutely. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
So if you're teaching them English... | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
May as well use that as the paradigm. Absolutely. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Why not? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
Which is the word to stress? | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
-CHILDREN: -Verb! -And not the adjective. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
The brightest heaven of invention. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
A kingdom for a stage, princes to act | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
And monarchs to behold the swelling scene! | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
'By the 1850s, Shakespeare had become an icon for educated Indians. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:17 | |
'A passport to advancement under British rule. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
'But to the millions who didn't speak English...' | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Then let me see. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
'..he remained a closed book.' | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Good gentle one, give me modest assurance | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
if you be the lady of the house. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
'That would only change when the plays were translated | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
'into the native languages of India. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
'And there are hundreds of those. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
'I've come to Mysore, in the southern state of Karnataka, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
'to hear what Indian Shakespeare sounds like. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
'I remember performing with my parents in the palace here. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
'But today Shakespeare turns up in the most unexpected places. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
'Like this high security prison.' | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
This is extraordinary, this story of playing Shakespeare in a jail. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:17 | |
Are all the guys that do the plays really serious criminals? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
Some of the people have done a serious couple of murders. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Homicides. And they are in for them for life. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
It is surprising that very hardened criminals | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
got very much fascinated | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
by this idea of playing Shakespeare inside a jail. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
For I know most of the prison inmates are from the local people. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
They are not very educated. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
The extraordinary thing is, why Shakespeare? | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
There are so many great and wonderful writers | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
that are in India already. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
I think Shakespeare's dramas involve transformation of the mind. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
It's not just a mere play. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
'I've been given special permission to go inside the prison | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
'and watch the inmates rehearse. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
'My guide is actor and director, Hulugappa Kattimani. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:11 | |
'His organisation, called Sankalpa, has pioneered the use of Shakespeare | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
'as a tool for rehabilitation in prisons like this.' | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
Many of these men are serving long sentences for serious crimes. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
I can't begin to imagine what their life must be like. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
But it's a very long way from Stratford-on-Avon. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
HE SPEAKS KANNADA | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
'I've joined Mr Kattimani's wife and daughter | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
'to watch a rehearsal of King Lear, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
'translated into the local language, called Kannada.' | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
HE SPEAKS KANNADA | 0:20:54 | 0:21:02 | |
Lear is an Everest of a role, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
so it's no surprise that Ganesh is finding it tough. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Before he was locked up 10 years ago for murder, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
he'd never acted in his life. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
TRANSLATION: Remember where Lear is. He's braving the rain and storm. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
He isn't out there sipping tea with a full stomach, feeling relaxed. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
You can't deliver punchy dialogue sitting like this. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
His stomach is empty. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
He has to feel what the character is feeling. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
King Lear is in a lot of conflicting emotions. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:36 | |
So he has to feel that. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:37 | |
In the midday heat of Mysore, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
it's hard to imagine your character in a storm on a blasted heath. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
THEY SCREAM AND LAUGH | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
That's unconventional! | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
But Mr Kattimani knows his actors. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
Hey! | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
It is not only acting Shakespeare lines. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
He learns how to live. How to respect together. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
-How to, um... -Interact? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Interact. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
But also it seems that they're learning not to be alone. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
They all react together, they concentrate together. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
-Totally one unit. -Yes, yes. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
And the energy from that is absolutely overwhelming. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
TRADITIONAL MUSIC PLAYS | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
DRUM BEATS | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
-TRANSLATION: -I had no idea about Shakespeare before. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
But Mr Kattimani used to tell us about him and his great plays. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
He used to say each and every letter in the lines in this play | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
were so profound that you don't have to do anything | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
except give proper meaning to the words. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
And the play will get its message across. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
My life before was very difficult. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
I used to get angry, suddenly. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
I'd lose my temper over anything and get into fights. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
Now, I'm affectionate and peaceful with people. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Since joining the play, I've become a new person. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Oh, my, can you see? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
This is the gentleman who's playing King Lear. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Ganesh! What a transformation! | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
I don't really remember recently being moved quite so much | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
by the absolute honesty and the raw emotion | 0:24:26 | 0:24:32 | |
and, quite frankly, brilliant acting, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
by a guy in for murder. No acting experience. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
And it really puts a lot of us pretentious thespians to shame, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
quite frankly, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
because he really had in some way | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
developed into that person who was in that anguish. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
To be able to convey the words, the emotion, surrounded by his inmates. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
I don't think I'll ever get over it. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
I think that was pure theatre. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
Translation made Shakespeare accessible | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
to millions of ordinary Indians across the subcontinent. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
A Bengali version of The Merchant of Venice | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
started the ball rolling in 1852. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Other favourites included Othello, Macbeth, and The Comedy of Errors. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
Some versions stayed true to the original. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Others relocated the action to Indian settings | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
and played fast and loose with character and plot. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
No crime in that, when you remember | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
what liberties Shakespeare took with his sources. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
And that wasn't the only common ground | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
he shared with India's home-grown storytellers. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
To find out more about those connections, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
I'm heading hundreds of miles further south | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
into the rural heart of India. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
CAR HORNS BEEP | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
So here we are, in the middle of absolutely nowhere. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
Very busy, very wonderful. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
I'm travelling with a tiny little unit, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
unlike the enormous number of people that I used to travel with. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
We used to actually travel on buses like this. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Sometimes 25 or 30 people at a time, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
and then we would just pile all the luggage, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
four show's worth of stuff, onto the roof, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
and off we would go for sometimes 10 or 12 hours through the night. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
I'm travelling in a more civilised fashion now. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
I'm on my way to the village of Heggodu, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
in the southern State of Karnataka. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
We never came here with Shakespeareana, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
although I rather wish we had. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
Around the same time that we were touring India, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
this tiny village gave birth to a revolutionary organisation | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
called Ninasam, which put it firmly on India's cultural map. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
Ninasam is founded on the belief | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
that great art belongs to everyone, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
the same philosophy that inspired my father's work. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
Every year they stage a Shakespeare production | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
performed by the villagers here, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
in Heggodu's very impressive theatre. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
CHEERING | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
-(Can I sit here?) -Yes, please. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
-They're rehearsing? -Yeah. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:39 | |
Shakespeare's A Winter's Tale. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
The Kannada version is called Shishira Vasantha. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Shishira is winter, and Vasantha is spring. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
So we have slightly changed the name, keeping the spirit of it. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
'It was Akshara's father who dreamed up | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
'this extraordinary grassroots movement.' | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
The actors today that we were seeing, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
-they're not professionals, are they? -This is the real connection | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
with the community, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
because these are all people who live around | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
and their families come here as the audience. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
-The integral society? -Yeah. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
And for any new play that we do, we will have two full houses definitely. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
400 plus 400. 1,000 people will watch it. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
Is there ever any question? | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
Do they say to you, "Why are you doing Shakespeare?" | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
No, actually, they don't care whether it is Shakespeare or somebody else. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
They would care for what they get from the show. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
In India, everything should have nava rasa, the nine basic emotions. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:53 | |
I mean, that is the wholeness of any work of art. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
The basic nine emotions are the heroic, the pathetic, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:02 | |
the comic...and adbhutam is the wonder. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:10 | |
So these are some of the elements | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
which usually the Indian audience | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
would think should be there in all works of art. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
So therefore, because Shakespeare contains | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
all these diverse emotions within one play, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
Indians would think that Shakespeare is an Indian playwright. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
He works for the Indian sensibility. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
There's a legend that Shakespeare was born in south India | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
and his original name was Shishupa Araya. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
And then he went to England, Christianised et cetera, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
and became Shakespeare. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
Mmm, there's something in it! | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
Yeah, there's something in it, | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
and there's something metaphorical in it, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
and there is at least some kind of an aspiration in it. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
Where people of south India want to appropriate Shakespeare as their own. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
Shakespeare in that way is a kind of bridge between two cultures. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
Through translation and adaptation, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
Shakespeare entered the bloodstream of India. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
But soon there were new heroes to follow. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
The rise of nationalism in the '20s and '30s | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
returned the spotlight to Indian culture. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
As independence approached, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Shakespeare's days in the Indian sun looked numbered. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
My parents couldn't have picked a worse time | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
to launch their company, Shakespeareana. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
They'd dreamed of returning, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:42 | |
ever since their wartime performances with ENSA, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
and sailed in high spirits, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
rehearsing The Merchant of Venice during the long voyage. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
But when they finally docked in Bombay, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
they found a land in turmoil. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
ANNOUNCER: India, gripped by conflict and suspense, as this vast country | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
of almost 400 million people strives to find a solution to its problems. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
Offered freedom by British Prime Minister Attlee in March, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
a divided India faces its complex destiny. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
This was the backdrop to Shakespeareana's first tour, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
launched in January 1947, just seven months before independence. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:21 | |
ANNOUNCER: As meeting followed meeting, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
the Muslims insisted on their demand for their own separate state | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
and complete independence from the Hindu majority. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
'The move to partition India and create a new state, Pakistan, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
'sparked mass violence between Hindus and Muslims. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
'We avoided the worst of the trouble and toured for a year. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
'But then a bad situation turned worse. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
'When Gandhi was assassinated in January 1948, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
'my parents decided reluctantly it was too dangerous to continue. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:59 | |
'We set sail for England, and it would be 5 years before we returned. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
'By then, the turmoil had subsided and we ended up staying for years.' | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
I recognise what's going on! | 0:32:10 | 0:32:11 | |
-A lot of actors getting ready for a show! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
'In Delhi, I've come to see a production | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
'of a Midsummer Night's Dream for school children. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
'I'm thrilled to discover that this company was originally | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
'inspired by Shakespeareana.' | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
I used to do this every day of my life in a new space, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
-doing exactly what you're doing! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
We had black curtains, a few props, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:37 | |
many, many, many costumes, as we had 12 or 15 plays. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
And do you have the same company that stays together? | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
More or less. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:43 | |
We picked up a tea planter once...carry on, carry on, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
because I know you've got a show...and we did this show, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
and he fell in love with the company. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
We went back next year and he said, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
"I'm giving up tea planting. I'm going to join your company." | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
And he did. He was rather good. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
Yeah? | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
-Not VERY good. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
-Not very good, but... -Tolerable. -Tolerable, yeah! | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
I made my very first stage appearance in The Dream, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
during our first turbulent tour. I was 9 months old. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Do not reprehend. Pardon us, and we will mend. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
'After we returned to India in 1953, I graduated to speaking roles.' | 0:33:20 | 0:33:25 | |
O, why rebuke you him that loves you so? | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
Lay breath so bitter on your bitter foe. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
'And settled into the nomadic lifestyle | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
'that would shape the rest of my childhood. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
'I rarely studied at the same school for more than a few weeks. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
'But what was fun for a child must have been hard slog for my parents. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:47 | |
'An endless succession of late nights, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
'early mornings and non-stop travel, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
'with no guarantee of a booking to pay the bills. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
'Although their utter dedication was sometimes rewarded | 0:33:55 | 0:34:01 | |
'by moments of absolute wonder.' | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
I think of the numerous places we've visited in India, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
this must be the most spectacular. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
We were guests, can you believe it, of the royal family. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
And we actually performed, I think, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
once inside and then a couple of times on the terrace. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
I can hardly actually believe that I have those memories | 0:34:20 | 0:34:27 | |
because they're probably the most magical | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
of all the memories that I have as a child in India. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
'During the Raj, Udaipur was a princely state, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
'governed by the local royal family under licence from the British. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
'After independence, power passed to the new Indian Government, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
'although the family still enjoys a ceremonial role. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
'I have an invitation to meet the current king, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
'or Maharana as he's known. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
'And I'm travelling to the palace in great style.' | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
It's sort of spooky that my parents, I remember, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
when I was very little, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
they went in splendour to the palace from the railway station. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Whereas the rest of the company went on rickshaws, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
because obviously there were hundreds of us, well, 14. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
And we couldn't all...so there was this incredible procession | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
of this amazing Rolls-Royce for my parents driving in State, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
and then the rest of the lot in the chicken class behind. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
'They still enjoy some pomp and circumstance in Udaipur. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
'Just as they did when Shakespeareana came to play.' | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
I don't actually remember whether it was your father | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
or your grandfather when my parents came here. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
No, you first came here during my grandfather's time in the early '50s. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
That is when your father had just started | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
-to put Shakespeareana together. -Yes. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
In fact, I remember him playing Shylock, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
and he made it look as if he was | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
not the villain but the hero. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:57 | |
Which I think very few people can carry off. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
And also, as far as I can remember going back, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
the fashion was to play, then, Shylock as a villain. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
A definite villain. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:10 | |
The bad...and he actually didn't believe that. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Well, he was way ahead of his time | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
to have thought of doing something like this. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
It just goes to show his passion for Shakespeare. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
He had two passions. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
-One was Shakespeare, and the other was India. -Any reasoning? | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
Did he give you any reasoning for that? | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
I don't really know why, but he just said, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
"This is something that the audiences in India respond to," | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
in a way that he found wasn't available to him. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
So I guess it was quite a selfish thing. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
He wanted that audience. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
I think you're being harsh. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
I think it was a passion. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
It was this great love, probably in a very juvenile way, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
probably not at his level. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
But at the same time, his passion for Shakespeare | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
and his passion for India came together rather well. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
And then why did he discontinue? | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
He didn't discontinue. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Basically what happened is that Jennifer got married, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
and I went to England, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
and what happened was that everything changed. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
If I put it in perspective, historical perspective, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
India became independent in '47. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
The states had been merged. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:16 | |
The union of India, the republic of India had come. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
And it was a transition at that time, and a lot of us, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
including Grandfather, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
were trying to get to terms with the new way of life. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
As India grew into independence, you might have thought | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
Shakespeare was destined to end up like the Maharajah's Rolls. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
A splendid survivor of a vanished world. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
Indians were reconnecting with their own traditions, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
undervalued for so long by the British. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
By the 1960s, Shakespeare Wallah portrayed my father's character | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
as a dinosaur of the Raj, raging against the dying of the light. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:59 | |
They always laughed at all the jokes, cried at the right places. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:05 | |
The most wonderful audience in the world. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
They're still the same people. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
Oh, no, they're not, Carla. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:10 | |
They've changed, and we've changed too. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
I've grown old and sour. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
Actually he didn't feel like that at all. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
He never lost his faith in his mission. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
Or in his belief that Shakespeare's plays, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
performed with integrity and love, speak to any audience. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
You simply have to follow Hamlet's advice to the players. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
Speak the speech, I pray you, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
as I pronounced it to you, trippingly on the tongue. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
But if you mouth it, as many of your players do, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
I had as lief the town-crier spoke my lines. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
'My father's passion and sheer bloody-mindedness | 0:38:47 | 0:38:53 | |
'kept Shakespeareana's show on the road well into the 1970s. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
'A testament to his unswerving conviction | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
'that Shakespeare could never be old-fashioned, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
'because he was timeless, and therefore, endlessly modern. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
'That conviction didn't always make for an easy life | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
'for him or the rest of the family. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
'But I love him for having it.' | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
What a wonderful backdrop! | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
You can't really beat that in any theatre! | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
DRUMS BEAT | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
My father believed Shakespeare and India were a natural fit. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
But for some Indian artists, the relationship's more complicated. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
The man in the mask is Arjun Raina. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
He's a master of Kathakali, the stylized dance theatre from Kerala. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
Traditionally, Kathakali tells stories from Indian mythology. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
Arjun's work plunders Shakespeare instead. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
-If you give me a Shakespearean sentence... -All right. To be... | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
Yes. To...live. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
To be. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
..or... | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
-Or. -..not... | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
-Not. -..not to be. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
He's already doing, "That is the question," | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
because you know the next bit! | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
Well, there isn't a single line that I don't know! | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
I can tell! I can tell! | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
This is a scene from Arjun's adaptation of Othello, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
Shakespeare's tragedy about a black hero | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
living in a white man's world. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
Arjun sees parallels between Othello's story | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
and the identity crisis faced by many Indians | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
as they square up to the colonial past. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
What did British colonisation do? | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
It absolutely cut a whole people from the roots of their culture. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
Absolutely, yeah. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
And it did it in very, very cunning, very brilliant ways. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
And one of the offerings of that was the great work of Shakespeare. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
So if you think that people love Shakespeare | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
and I love Shakespeare, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
that's only partially the truth. The truth is, you hate it also. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
DRUMS BEAT | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
To dramatise that love-hate relationship, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
Arjun tears up the script. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
In the original play, Othello kills his wife, Desdemona, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
because he thinks she's had an affair. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
This time round, husband and wife survive. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
It's the treacherous Iago who ends up dead. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
It's like hijacking an aeroplane. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
It always gets you attention. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:37 | |
-So the reason why... -Yes, yes! | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
..why I have done Shakespeare is | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
I'm not so interested in Shakespeare and your world. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
But I was very passionately interested in making my world | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
and my beauty and my art be present in my world. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
Arjun's Kathakali take on Othello has another consequence too. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
For centuries, the lead role was usually played | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
by a white actor in black make-up, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
whether it was my father or Lord Olivier. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
It is the cause, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:13 | |
It is the cause, my soul. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
'But in Kathakali, everyone wears a mask.' | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
I'm going to have a go at a rather old Desdemona. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
I think at my age the only way to do it, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
having played it once before, is in a mask. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
HE SPEAKS HINDI | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
Iago is making me up. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:36 | |
This is not like it is in Elizabeth Arden, I can tell you. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
-RECORDING: -Justice to break a sword. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
'I played some eccentric venues during my time with Shakespeareana, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
'but Arjun's rooftop theatre is up there with the best of them. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
'At least in his version of the play, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
'Desdemona lives to fight another day.' | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
-RECORDING: -She wakes! | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
DRUMS RATTLE | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Lady Desdemona not being murdered? | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
I like this! HE LAUGHS | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
Lady Desdemona getting up? | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
Thank you. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
-Not easy! -HE LAUGHS | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
Lady Desdemona, free. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
Iago, dead. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:19 | |
Thank you! Thank you very much! | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
Thank you! | 0:43:21 | 0:43:22 | |
'Arjun hijacks Shakespeare to make his point. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
'But others stuck to the script to make their voice heard. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
'I've returned to Kolkata to meet theatre expert, Bishnupriya Dutt. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:35 | |
'Her father, Utpal Dutt, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
'was one of India's most celebrated and controversial performers | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
-'before his death in 1993.' -Come in! | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
This is their house, where my parents stayed. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
Oh, oh, my goodness! Look, there he is! | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
Othello. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:51 | |
'Utpal started his career with Shakespeareana.' | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
-He was very young and he played... -He was in college. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
-He was in college? -First year college, yes. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
And I was little, and I remember him | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
being this charismatic figure that I absolutely worshipped. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:09 | |
He was funny, and he was actually also quite argumentative | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
about things that were going on. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:13 | |
He's written about it many times, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
that it was not really reading Marx and Engels | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
which initiated him into his left ideological belief, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
but actually through Shakespeare. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
That was his first entry point. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
'After he left my parents, Utpal formed his own company, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
'inspired by his Marxist beliefs.' | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
I remember my father saying, "He's written these things | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
"and he's running this theatre," and he was very proud of him. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
But he was also concerned that he kept being put in jail | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
because of his beliefs. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:42 | |
He didn't care. He was just going to do it anyway. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
'In 1975, India was hit by political crisis. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
'Prime Minister Indira Ghandi announced a state of emergency, | 0:44:48 | 0:44:55 | |
'ruling by decree for nearly two years. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
'Utpal was outraged, but censorship made it difficult | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
'to stage a contemporary play which voiced his dissent. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
'So he turned instead to Shakespeare's tragedy | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
'about another ruler who seizes power by force.' | 0:45:08 | 0:45:13 | |
So now this is a programme, isn't it, of Macbeth? | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
And this is interesting because it's written here, "Alas, poor country. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
"Almost afraid to know itself. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
"It cannot be called our mother." | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
India is always called 'Mother'. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
"But our grave, where nothing | 0:45:25 | 0:45:26 | |
"but who knows nothing is once seen to smile." | 0:45:26 | 0:45:31 | |
It's extraordinarily fitting. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
That Shakespeare should still be so powerfully available | 0:45:33 | 0:45:39 | |
to emotional, political translation of any kind all over the world. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:44 | |
But it seems especially in India. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
Around the time Utpal was battling the government, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
my parents moved back to England, where I'd been living for a decade. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
They were semi-retired, | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
but still returned regularly to India to perform. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
Just the two of them together now, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
playing favourite scenes and monologues. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
The only member of the Kendal clan still living permanently in India | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
was my sister, Jennifer. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
The final leg of my journey brings me to Mumbai | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
on the shores of the Indian Ocean. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
A city which still has strong family connections. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
I've come to Prithvi Theatre, the family theatre, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
to meet my family. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
And unfortunately, they are renovating at the moment, | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
but we're going to go in and see what's what. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
The Prithvi Theatre was built by my big sister, Jennifer, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:41 | |
and her husband, Shashi Kapoor. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
This is Jennifer, my sister. Your mother. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
Is there Shashi anywhere? | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
-Yes, there, there. -Oh, my goodness! | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
Now this is it. This is Othello. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
This is Shashi. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
'Shashi comes from one of India's | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
'most distinguished theatrical families.' | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
What would he be playing? Cassio? | 0:46:59 | 0:47:00 | |
He's obviously playing Cassio. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
'As a 19 year-old, he acted with Shakespeareana, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
'married my sister, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:07 | |
'and then went on to become one of India's biggest movie stars. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
'Jennifer died far too young nearly 20 years ago. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
'But she'd be so proud to see her children, my niece and nephew, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
'keep the family traditions alive.' | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
Have we done Shakespeare here? | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
-Yes. -Yes. -Oh, lots. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:24 | |
In English, in Hindi, in everything. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
Some way, Shakespeare keeps coming back in. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
And I think one of the reasons Shakespeare works | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
-is it's like our epics. -Yes. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
-The stories are magnificent. -Huge. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
I mean, all the things that we like culturally in India | 0:47:36 | 0:47:41 | |
in stories, is emotion. The relationships and emotion. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
-Family relationships. -The moral as well. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
And actually he had a knack, and it's these emotions that work, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:52 | |
because we're very emotional and we like things larger than life. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
On the other hand, it's totally honest. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
It's not melodrama. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:00 | |
There isn't a second of melodrama. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
No, it's not artificial. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:04 | |
It's not artificial. It's... ..it's life... | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
-But it's sort of HUGE life! -But it's real. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
It's what you can identify with. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
That's why it gets adapted, and that's why it's both ways. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
You've had so many films that have been made based on Shakespeare. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:22 | |
I'm going to find out more about how Shakespeare | 0:48:23 | 0:48:28 | |
made it big in Indian movies. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
And I'm in the right place. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:31 | |
Mumbai is the town where Bollywood was born. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
This is the famous Chor Bazaar, which translated is Thieves' Market. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
You can get anything you want, or you're supposed to be able to. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
And I'm after something very special. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
If I don't get run over first! | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
-Hello! -Hello, hello! | 0:48:49 | 0:48:50 | |
-Where are you from? -I'm from England. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
Besides adapting entire plays, Indian movie makers | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
have never been too proud to beg, borrow or steal | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
characters, plot devices or individual scenes from Shakespeare | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
to spice up their own stories. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
Bollywood Bazaar! This is it! | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
OK, so I have a list of old films. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
One is Chori Chori, then there's Junglee. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
Have you got anything on these? | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
Chori Chori, yes. I have got the poster of Chori Chori. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
-You have? Can I see? -Yes, definitely. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
-Oh, there we go! -Raj Kapoor and Nargis. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
-Very famous. Amazing. -Yeah, very famous couple. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
So what was the story that you understand of it? | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
She had played a very strong role in this movie, Nargis. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
She is very brave and very strong. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
-So she's not the obedient woman. -Exactly. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:37 | |
-She is the disobedient woman. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. HE LAUGHS | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
And then she decides who she wants to marry. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
Yeah, exactly, madam. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:44 | |
A little bit like The Taming of the Shrew, which is Shakespeare. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
-Exactly, yeah. Oh, OK. -Do you think? | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
OK, I've got another one. Uran Khatola. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
-I have the Uran Khatola poster, yes. -You have it? You are amazing! | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
So this is Dilip? | 0:49:54 | 0:49:55 | |
Yeah, that's Dilip Kumar. And this is Nimmi. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
There is one very funny story in this movie. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
The heroine, you know, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
she is to dress like a man to impress Dilip Kumar in this movie. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:08 | |
And in the end, what happens? | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
In the end, Dilip Kumar gets impressed, so they fall in love. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
He falls in love with a boy, but realises it's a girl. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
-Exactly, exactly. -That sounds a little bit like Twelfth Night. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
And do you think they knew that it was coming from Shakespeare, or not? | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
-Maybe not. -Maybe not. Yeah, yeah! | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
It doesn't matter. It's here. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
And I notice something else up there, looking down on us. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
-Yeah, yeah, yeah! -I cannot believe this! | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
There's a bust of Shakespeare looking down from heaven. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
He's watching us do this. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
'And I wonder what he would have made of this.' | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
BOLLYWOOD MUSIC PLAYS. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
It looks like classic Bollywood. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
But it's 100% Shakespeare too. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
This is a scene from Omkara, a modern day version of Othello, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
set in the remote wilds of India. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
It's one of a pair of Shakespeare movies | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
made by director, Vishal Bhardwaj. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
I've come to the Eros cinema. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
When I was growing up in India, this was a regular haunt of mine. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
A wonderful place to watch films. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
PROJECTOR WHIRRS | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
Before Othello, Bhardwaj adapted Macbeth, | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
moving Shakespeare's Scottish play to the Mumbai underworld. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
His hero isn't a nobleman, but a gangster called Maqbool. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:26 | |
This is the moment when he kills his boss. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
His stories are timeless and his basic conflicts | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
deal with the basic human emotions. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
It's the jealousy, greed, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
power, love, which is very easily identifiable | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
by any caste, any creed. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
So I think that's the reason | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
I can adapt Shakespeare to any period of my country. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
DRAMATIC MUSIC | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
Any period and any place. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
When he turned his attention to Othello, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
he relocated the tragedy to a landscape he knew well. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:07 | |
I placed it in North India, where I come from. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:12 | |
And it's like...you know, the Wild, Wild West. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
So I thought that to see those kind of characters | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
in the mainstream Indian cinema, | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
with the backing of such a strong playwright, | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
can be a deadly cocktail. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:27 | |
The basic story I thought, in Othello, to me, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
was a black man who has low self-esteem. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:37 | |
So I had to look for the parallel of the Moor. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:42 | |
And in that I found a low caste or a half-caste Brahmin. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
Brahmin is a very upper caste in India. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
But he is the mix of a Brahmin and a low caste lady. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:56 | |
So he is regarded, he is respected, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
but he is always taken as a half-caste. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
BOLLYWOOD MUSIC | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
Because I didn't want to alienate myself from the mainstream, | 0:53:05 | 0:53:10 | |
I had to have songs. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
The only thing is, the songs have to be justified. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
And I always have problems with Bollywood films, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
that when the song comes, the story stops. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
So I try to weave the songs in such a manner that the story keeps moving. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:26 | |
It should not stop. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
So if you see that she's dancing on stage | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
and Iago is also dancing down, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
and Cassio's drunk, so they creates some scene. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
And I think there's a song in Shakespeare's Othello also. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
After they get drunk, they sing a song. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
So it's not just me. I think also Shakespeare used songs. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
'It's quite a journey from those early expat shows | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
'to Bollywood Shakespeare. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
'Along the way he's played many parts. | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
'He's been adapted, translated, plundered and hijacked. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:06 | |
'He's been a weapon of Empire and a voice of freedom. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
'I'm proud of my family's role in his Indian adventure. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
'And delighted to discover that it's not over yet. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
'But my journey's nearly done, | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
'and there's just one more person to meet. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
'Naseeruddin Shah is one of India's biggest movie stars. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
'He's acted in over 100 films, including Omkara and Maqbool.' | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -You have a fan! | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
'I came to talk about his work, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
'but just when you think you have it sussed, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
'India has a funny habit of surprising you.' | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
Now you did some films... | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
-Based on Shakespeare. -..on Shakespeare. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
Before I go into that, Felicity, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
I want to point out something. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:53 | |
Whenever I was asked, "Who's your favourite actor?" | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
I'd say, "Mr Kendal." | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
And I'd seen Lord Olivier, | 0:54:58 | 0:54:59 | |
I'd seen Mr Brando, I'd seen Mr Gielgud on movies. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:04 | |
They never mesmerised me the way he did. I saw their last performance. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
I think it was just before Mrs Kendal fell ill. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:12 | |
And I said, "Sir, I have to ask you one thing. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
"Do you ever feel any sense of regret | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
"that you didn't stay on in England? | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
"Because you're as great as any of those great actors I've seen. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
"Don't you feel you could have stayed on | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
"and become a Knight and Lord and so on? | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
"Living in a mansion in London?" | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
And he said, "I have no sense of regret, because I'm not an actor. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:35 | |
"I'm a missionary. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:36 | |
"And my mission is to spread Shakespeare." | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
And I have never seen such a statement of such total clarity | 0:55:40 | 0:55:45 | |
made by two people at the end of their lives. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
Saying it with such complete conviction | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
and satisfied in every way. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
And it's going to be an inspiration that will last me as long as I live. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
And I try to tell the story of Shakespeare to anybody that I can. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
That's the greatest thing, is to inspire somebody else, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
-I think, probably. -Absolutely. -Amazing. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
When Shakespeareana came on, he'd recite this marvellous poem. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
I don't remember it in its entirety now, but it went something like, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
"When Shakespeare played, the stage was bare. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
"Of castle, something, font or stair. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
"Two supers made the rebel rout. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
"Two broadswords fought the battle out. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
"The throne of Denmark was a chair... | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
-A chair! -"..when Shakespeare played. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
"Upon his stage without thrust prow, his actors came..." | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
As we come forward now to be as our heroes, bravely, nothing tame. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:36 | |
No shrinking back behind a picture frame. No coloured scene... | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
"..no coloured scene emblazons. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
"When Shakespeare played, there was heard..." | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
-THE KENDALS: -..a high, unclouded summer of the word. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:51 | |
"..a high, unclouded summer of the word." | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
My mother died in England 20 years ago. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
After my father followed her six years later, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
we scattered his ashes on the waters of the Indian Ocean. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
What an extraordinary passage back to India I've had. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
I was brought here by my father as a little girl. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
This is where we took his ashes out to sea, from the gateway of India. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:24 | |
I don't know why, we had a bagpiper with a turban and a kilt, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
who played rather badly, bless him. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
And we went to the bow of the boat, the wind was blowing, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
and we gave him to the sea. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:36 | |
And the wind was so strong, it blew him back in our faces. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Which was a sort of wonderful end! | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
He absolutely adored India, it was his home, and loved Shakespeare. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:48 | |
Two loves of his life, apart from my mother. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
And he tried to spread that on his journeys over the years. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:57 | |
And he, I suppose... | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
..made me conscious, as he did many other people, | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
that Shakespeare was such a special and available writer. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:08 | |
And I think it would make him so happy to know | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
that, in some small way, he had influenced | 0:58:11 | 0:58:13 | |
the love of Shakespeare | 0:58:13 | 0:58:15 | |
that is still so strong in this magical country. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
He'd be very proud. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
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