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100 years after his birth, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
you'd think that we know Dylan Thomas pretty well by now, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
but, somehow, his genius resists | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
being pushed into pigeon holes. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
He was a brilliant poet, gifted writer of short stories | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
and a successful radio broadcaster. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
He was a raconteur, bohemian, womaniser | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
and drinker of legendary excess. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
But what did he do during the war? | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
He spent most of it scripting propaganda films | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
for the Ministry of Information! | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
So, how did a poet who once said | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
that poetry and politics should not mix, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
end up more or less working for the Government? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
And how was the work of Dylan, the poet, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
influenced by his work as Dylan, the propagandist? | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
At the outbreak of the war, Dylan Thomas was 25 years old, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
and had already published five volumes of poems and short stories. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
He was also beginning to get occasional jobs | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
writing radio features for the BBC, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
but he had no experience of writing for film. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
What's not in doubt, however, was his love of the medium. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
As a boy, he would frequent the cinema | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
here in the Uplands of Swansea. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
There's a bank on the same spot now, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
but Dylan immortalised the old cinema | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
in one of his short stories as the flea pit picture house where | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
he whooped for the scalping Indians and banged for the rustlers' guns. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
As he grew older, his tastes in film grew more sophisticated. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
And according to one Swansea friend from the period, the only time | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
he ever saw Dylan really annoyed, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
was when somebody made a disparaging remark about Greta Garbo, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
one of his favourite actresses. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
At his home here in Cwmdonkin Drive, he began to fill notebooks | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
with the poems that would catapult him to literary prominence. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
But one of the first things he ever published was | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
an article in his school magazine in 1930 on the history of film. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
Aged only 15, he wrote a critical appraisal of cinema pioneer, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
DW Griffith, that showed a precocious familiarity with | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
the techniques of film-making. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
"Griffith," he wrote, "introduced the now familiar tricks | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
"of the close-up, the fade out and the cut back. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
"He realised the importance of motion-pictures, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
"not as freak exhibitions, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
"but as works of art produced through an entirely new medium." | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
Small wonder then that the schoolboy who wrote these words, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
would himself, within a few years, be producing work | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
within that new medium. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
Between 1941 and 1945, Dylan Thomas scripted | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
or co-scripted at least 15 propaganda films for the Government. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
In these dominions, their children are brought up in freedom | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
and for freedom. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
A generation taught to value the best of the old world... | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
As Dylan strove to master this new medium, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
for a time, his creative powers had to be focused on | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
giving voice not to his own ideas, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
but to those of the Government. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
The new nations of the Commonwealth, side by side at last with Russia, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
China and the USA, making a new nations of the world. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
United in a war to the death against the living death | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
of slavery under fascism... | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
But no-one at the beginning of the war would have expected | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
Dylan Thomas to become involved in propaganda films. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
Dylan had a horror of killing, and he certainly didn't want to fight. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
But he was also equally dismissive of anybody who was | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
involved in the war effort in less direct ways too. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Every literate or semi-literate party-goer in London is | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
stampeding the Ministry of Labour, willing to do | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
anything from licking stamps and bums to writing recruiting literature, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
or broadcasting appeals for warm bodies to become cold. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
Principle prevents us, I hope, from propaganding. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
The fact that he could be so dismissive of propaganda | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
and recruiting, and yet end up doing just that a couple of years later, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
implies a character somewhat at odds with himself. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
In order to begin to understand this contradiction, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
we need to look more closely at Dylan's politics. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
One major influence on his political outlook | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
when he was growing up in Swansea in the 1930s, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
was his friendship with the communist sympathiser, Bert Trick. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
Dylan would often call at Bert's greengrocer shop | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
here in Brynmill in Swansea, and in the flat above the shop | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
they would plot the annihilation of the ruling classes, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
as he put it, over blancmange and jelly supplied by Bert's wife. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
Dylan described himself at the time as a socialist | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
but an unconventional one. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
However, by the time of the outbreak of the war, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
his politics, if anything, were even harder to define. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
This is what he wrote to Bert Trick in September 1939. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
I don't know how you feel about all this, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
but I can't raise up any feeling about this war at all, and the demon | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
Hitlerism can go up its own bottom. I refuse to help it with a bayonet. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
In May 1940, Dylan took his medical for the forces and was classed C3, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:42 | |
the last category of men who would be called up for active duty, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
an outcome that would almost certainly have been a great relief to him. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
I've come to meet Professor John Goodby who has published | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
numerous studies of Dylan Thomas, and I started by asking him | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
whether or not Dylan could be described as a pacifist. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
I think he was and he wasn't, you know. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
It's this chameleon quality again. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Constantine Fitzgibbon, his first biographer, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
said that he'd read the stories about Dylan Thomas, he'd heard all | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
of the stories and they seemed to be stories told not of one man or even | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
two men, but of six or eight, and I think that's very much to the point. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
Yes, he was a pacifist in certain ways. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
He was a pacifist in the '30s like a lot of socialists, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
they didn't want another war. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
There's a very strong Welsh tradition of anti-Imperialist pacifism as well, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
a very honourable and strong tradition of that | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
and he was part of that. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
What would the alternatives have been for Dylan | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
at the beginning of the war? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:41 | |
The alternatives to writing film scripts would have been | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
working in a munitions factory, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
having some kind of job with the military but which didn't involve | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
active combat, so on a defence battery or something like that. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
He was very unwilling to work in a munitions factory, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
he saw that as indirectly killing people, turning a cog, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
turning a screw. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
"Oh, no, I'd rather be a poet any day and drink beer, deary me." | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
But I think that within the remit of writing film scripts in the war, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
was something else, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
it wasn't just about propaganda for joining the forces. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
There was also an element of social reconstruction, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
and I think this was part of maybe what drew Dylan Thomas in. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
The message of many of these films was | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
that there could be no return to the 1930s. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Lads shouldn't have to play in a place like this. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
Kids shouldn't have to grow up in soot and muck. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
It isn't right! | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
In 1942 the government's Beveridge Report was a bestseller, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
with over 600,000 copies sold. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
It set out a blueprint for the establishment | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
of a post-war welfare state. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Ah, now this is much better! | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
Aye. These flats are better than 'ouses that was 'ere. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
Like most films that Dylan Thomas wrote during the war, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
this was reviewed in the industry's own monthly magazine, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
Documentary News Letter. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Propaganda value, very good for the home front, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
particularly since the film makes it clear that plans for the future | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
are bound up with the war effort, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
which we are all engaged in, here and now. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
But who's going to make them come true? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
They are! | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
You are! You're only folk that can make these plans come true. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
Remember, it's your town. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
If you think about it, Beveridge's plan talks about | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
looking after the citizen from the cradle to the grave. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
Now Dylan Thomas's poetry is about first and last things. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
It's about birth, it's about genesis and it's about death, you know, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
and in a weird way, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
the coordinates of his poetry line up in the early '40s | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
with the new coordinates of the state in the Beveridge Report. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
And I think this, perhaps, is something that drew him in as well. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Dylan Thomas's first employers in the world of film-making were | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
Strand Films, at the time, one of the biggest | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
producers of documentary films in Britain. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
During the War, their offices were in this building here in Soho, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
where they worked under contract to the Ministry of Information | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
producing as many as 70 films each year. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
Despite Dylan's initial reservations about "propaganding", as he put it, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
working for Strand Films seemed to agree with him. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
He even referred to it sometimes as his war work. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
This is how he described the office here at No 1 Golden Square | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
in a letter to a friend. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
I write to you in a ringing, clinging office | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
with repressed women all around punishing typewriters, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
and queers in striped suits talking about cinema and, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
just at this very moment, a man with a bloodhound's voice | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
and his cheeks, I'm sure, full of Mars Bars, rehearsing out loud | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
a radio talk on India and the Documentary Movement. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Despite the slightly sarcastic tone of that letter, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
Dylan did enjoy his time at Strand Films. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
He was on a salary of £8 a week, rising later to £10 a week. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
And it was a convivial working environment - | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
production meetings were often informal affairs | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
held in the back bar of the Cafe Royal | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
or other nearby watering holes. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
But despite Dylan's reputation as something of a drinker, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
many of his colleagues from this time | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
have attested to his professionalism as a writer. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
The fact of the matter is | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
he simply wouldn't have kept his job otherwise. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
You've now arrived on your practice war site. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
As you can see, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
conditions are not likely to be particularly comfortable... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Despite its rather dull title, Balloon Site 568 was warmly received | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
by the reviewers at the Documentary News Letter. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
After some weeks of training, the girls get familiar | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
with their floppy elephantine charges. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
The weird flock of balloons going into bed makes a striking picture. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
That review can be seen online here | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
and like every other review in the magazine | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
it ends with an assessment of the film's propaganda value. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
"A job, which the film admits must at times be hard, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
"even depressing, is shown to be an inviting one. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
"The film should bring in recruits to the Service." | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
But just how effective were films like this | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
within the wider war effort? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
To answer that question, I'm meeting up with Dr Jamie Medhurst | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
of Aberystwyth University, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
who's an expert on the documentary films of this period. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
The films were seen as an important part of the war effort. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
The Ministry of Information recognised the importance of film. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
I think it goes back to the post-World War One period, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
certainly in the late '20s, 1930s, with the growth of the | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
British Documentary Movement under the leadership of John Grierson | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
who himself saw the cinema as a kind of pulpit to preach to the masses. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
And I think this then flows into the war period and the recognition | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
that film can have an impact and can change people's minds. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
And what kind of films were they making? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
All kinds of films, to be honest. I think the range is quite extensive | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
and if you think of it in terms of a spectrum, then on one end | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
you have the films that were training... | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
essentially training films for prospective soldiers. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
You have films that provided information, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
factual information on the war effort. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Films that were a little bit more subtle | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
in terms of changing people's minds - | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
I don't know whether soft propaganda is the phrase here - | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
through to the harder end of propaganda, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
which is perhaps more obvious, more direct... | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
-Attacking the enemy? -Attacking the enemy, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
and one of those films is Dylan Thomas's These Are The Men. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
DRUM ROLL SOUNDS | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
These are the men | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
These are to blame... | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
One of the cleverest scripts that Dylan Thomas wrote | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
was for this film, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
based on an imaginative re-use of Nazi propaganda. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
Dylan took Leni Riefenstahl's famous 1934 film of a Nuremberg rally, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
and superimposed satirical new "translations" in English, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
in which Hitler and other Nazi leaders | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
apparently confessed their sins. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
VOICEOVER: I was born of poor parents. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
I grew into a discontented and neurotic child. My lungs were bad. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
My mother spoilt me and secured my exemption from military service. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
Consider my triumphant path to power! | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
Despite its sophisticated use of ridicule, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
the film These Are The Men is still quite a direct piece of propaganda, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
and as such, it's fairly untypical of the kind of thing | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
that the Ministry of Information was trying to do during the Second World War. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
During the First World War, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
propaganda had been far more blunt and jingoistic. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
By the 1940s, the authorities realised that the British people | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
were too sophisticated and too sceptical | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
to accept such crude demonisations of the enemy. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
Propaganda now refrained from stridency, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
opting instead for a more restrained and more sincere tone. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
Wartime propaganda films put far more emphasis on what was being | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
fought for rather than what was being fought against. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
And so, in 1942 Dylan Thomas found himself | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
writing about a very familiar subject. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Morning is breaking over Wales at war | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Not the long and faraway wild war | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
Of the mountain Welshmen and the English kings | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
But the terrible near war of England and Wales | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
And her brothers and sisters all over the Earth... | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
This was a film commissioned to complement similar pieces | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
that had featured Scotland and Northern Ireland. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
According to the review in Documentary News Letter... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
The main points are made by an imaginative use of music | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
and commentary the latter an impressive effort by Dylan Thomas, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
with its simple verses about the slump and its aftermath. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
Dragging through the squalor with their hearts like lead | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
Staring at the hunger and the shut pit head... | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
If the film critics were impressed with this simplicity | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
in Dylan Thomas's verse commentary, to what extent did this reflect | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
a new departure in his writing? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
It would be simplistic to say, as some people have, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
that he learned to write simpler because he had to write the films. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
Good writers want to make readers work. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
Good writers are interested in what they want to say that's original. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
They're not interested in dumbing things down | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
to the level of journalism. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
So, I think that the films helped Dylan | 0:15:58 | 0:16:04 | |
to explore a new lyrical vein and they helped him to devise | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
new structures for spreading meaning in deceptively simple forms. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
Nothing in their pockets | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Nothing home to eat | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
Lagging from the slag heap to the pinched, packed street... | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
According to one critic, "The film should please the Welsh | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
"and interest the English and the Scots." | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
However, it didn't please the censors, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
with its pointed references to unemployment | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
and at one point there was talk of banning it even, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
until it was eventually cleared for exhibition | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
by the Ministry of Information here in London. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Throughout the war, there was a certain amount of tension | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
between artist and bureaucrat. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
Documentary makers claimed there was too much scrutiny, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
with more and more people having to be consulted | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
before scripts could be agreed or rough-cuts approved. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
Get this threaded up, will you? | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
They were heavily censored. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
This is wartime, we have a Ministry of Information | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
working on part of the Government to ensure that the correct message, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
the same message, was going out across in all media, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
in newspapers, in radio and of course in film. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
So tell us the convoluted method by which | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
Wales Green Mountain Black Mountain eventually passed for exhibition. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
The British Council was unhappy with Green Mountain Black Mountain | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
because of the images of unemployment, particularly, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
and referred it to the Wales Office of the Ministry of Information, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
who took exception to the film on different grounds, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
because they weren't convinced that Dylan Thomas was the right person | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
to be involved with this film. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
He wasn't "a proper Welshman" as he lived in London. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
This was referred then to the Ministry of Information in London | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
who took a different view and decided that, no, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Dylan Thomas was the right man and the film was passed. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
But it's an interesting example, I think, of that censorship process, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
of that interference, you could argue, from higher up the chain. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Dylan had lived in London for several short periods of his life | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
before he began work with Strand Films. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
He met his wife in this pub in 1936. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
He took part in the International Surrealist Exhibition the same year | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
and there's a surreal flavour to his critical description | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
of the English capital to his friend, Vernon Watkins. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
"I've just come back from London, city of the restless dead. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
"It really is an insane city and filled me with terror. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
"Every pavement drills through your soles to your scalp, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
"and out pops a lamp-post covered with hair. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
"I'm not going to London again for years, its intelligentsia | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
"is so hurried in the head that nothing stays there. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
"Its glamour smells of goat. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
"There's no difference between good and bad." | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
But in his first years with Strand Films | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
he had to spend most of his time here in London | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
and in 1943, the Thomases came to live | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
in an artists' studio, long since demolished, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
here on Manresa Road in Chelsea. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
It wasn't very comfortable at the best of times, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
but after the birth of their second child, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
Caitlin and the children spent more and more time | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
with friends and relatives outside London. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
Another major factor of course was the risk of air raids. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
When Dylan came to meet Donald Taylor, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
his prospective employer at Strand Films, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
for the first time in 1940, he stayed here in Hammersmith. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
Unfortunately his visit coincided | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
with the first night of the London Blitz. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
And this is how his host, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
Theodora Fitzgibbon, described the scene that evening. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
"The planes flew up the Thames, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
"which was lit up like a horrifying pantomime, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
"dropping their deadly cargo indiscriminately." | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
AIR RAID SIREN SOUNDS | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
As he spent more time in London | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
and experienced the effects of the bombing, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
the Blitz gripped his imagination, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
as he confided to his friend Vernon Watkins. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
The Hyde Park guns were booming. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
Guns on the top of Selfridges. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
A plane brought down in the Tottenham Court Road. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
White-faced taxis still trembling through the streets, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
and buses going, and even people being shaved. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Are you frightened these nights? | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
When I wake up out of burning birdman dreams | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
and hear the sound of bombs and gunfire only a little way away, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
I'm so relieved I could laugh or cry. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
Dylan used the same idea in this script for his film, Our Country. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
Oh, walking through the streets in the morning | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
Would nearly make you want to sing | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Though there were dead people under the stones | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
Or people not dead | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Sing, because the world was alive again in the daytime | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
And I was alive and you were alive. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
Air raids, and their terrible consequences, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
were a theme to which he returned | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
time and time again in his own poetry too. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
When the morning was waking over the war | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
He put on his clothes and stepped out and he died | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
The locks yawned loose and a blast blew them wide | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
He dropped where he loved on the burst pavement stone | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
And the funeral grains of the slaughtered floor... | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
At the beginning of 1944, Donald Taylor formed a new company, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
Gryphon Films, and he took Dylan on to work for him there too. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
Dylan was increasingly asked to work on feature-length film scripts | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
about Robert Burns, about the Blasket Islands, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
about the 19th-century Edinburgh murderers, Burke and Hare. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
Although none of these projects went into production during Dylan's | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
lifetime, he really enjoyed this work and we detect occasional | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
notes of frustration creeping into his correspondence from this period | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
because he still had to work on the propaganda films too. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
There is nothing but glibly naive insincerity | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
in this huge, tin-roofed box of tricks. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
I do not care a bugger about the Problems of Wartime Transport. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
But the propaganda films still had to be made | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
and sometimes the end product was just as rewarding, artistically, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
as working on feature film scripts. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
One of the highlights of his creative relationship | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
with Donald Taylor was the documentary Our Country. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
And once again, Dylan turned to poetry for the commentary. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
To begin with, a city | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
A fair, grey day | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
A day as lively and noisy as a close gossip of sparrows | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
As terribly impersonal as a sea cabin full of machines | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
When morning is driving down from the roofs of buildings | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Into stone labyrinths and traffic webs | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
When each man is alone forever in the midst of the masses of men | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
And all the separate movements of the morning crowds | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
Are lost together in the heartbeats of the clocks... | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
The film was made in 1944 | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
and premiered here at the Empire, Leicester Square. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
According to the Spectator, it was, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
"The most exciting and provocative film for many a long day." | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
According to the Documentary News Letter it was, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
"The sole and successful experimental film of the war period. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
"It says important things in a new way." | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
The film consists of a series of episodes bound together | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
by a merchant seaman on leave who wanders around "Our Country". | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
In Wales he chances upon a language lesson in school. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
I wonder if you can say "Good morning, sailor" in Welsh. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
CHILDREN: Bore da, forwr. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
Dylan's correspondence with Donald Taylor whilst they were working | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
on this film reveals how willing he was to be a team player. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
Despite his standing as one of Britain's leading poets, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
he was not precious about his verse at all. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
Dear Donald, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
the cuts you made in the verse-commentary, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
which from the point of view of the film were essential, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
did destroy some of the continuity of the verse, as verse. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
Written down, the verse looks a little chaotic - | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
as it's bound to be. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
Heard spoken to a beautiful picture, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
the words gain a sense and authority which the printed word denies them. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
Going out, out over the racing rails | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
And the grumble of London leaving thunder | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
Over the maze track of metal through a wink and a spin | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
Of towns and signals and fields | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
Out to the edges of the explosive, the moon-moved | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Man-indifferent capsizing sea... | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
But although Dylan was happy enough to bow creatively | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
to Donald Taylor's greater experience in the world of film, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
continuing to write his own poems | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
was just as important to him as ever. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
In November 1944 he complained to a literary friend that... | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
"I'm writing film scripts for a living, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
"and the time left over from that I try to spend on poems. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
A miserable arrangement, which should be reversed." | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
And yet, during the war years, whilst scripting, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Dylan was also building up the material | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
for his next collection of poems, Deaths And Entrances - | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
widely considered to be one of his finest. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
So was scripting as detrimental to his poetic output as he thought? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
Caitlin Thomas always thought that Dylan was wasting his talent | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
on this rubbish and that there were | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
a lot of good poems gone west because of that. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
I think that's probably true up to a point | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
but I think that writers sometimes do things | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
without even knowing why they're doing them, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
and it advances their art or it takes them to a different place. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
For three years he doesn't seem to have produced | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
much in the way of poetry at all, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
or he was working on the scripts as far as we can see. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
-Was he happier being told what to write? -Maybe, maybe. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
He did say in one letter that a writer cannot be a writer | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
24 hours of the day. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
He has to be a normal human being as well. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
And he seems never to have been happier | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
than when he was having a drink, being convivial, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
or lying in a warm bath eating dolly mixtures | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
and reading the latest Agatha Christie. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
So there are other aspects to his life | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
than sitting down and simply writing. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
And perhaps it's dangerous for us to think of film-writing | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
and poetry as inhabiting opposite ends of the spectrum of writing? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
It is dangerous to see them as opposed. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
One of the things that's unique about Dylan Thomas - | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
and I think you could say utterly unique, you know, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
the only poet I can think of who manages to do this - | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
is that he was a success writing anthology popular poems | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
and at writing high-modernist masterpieces, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
and that he also bridged the gap between poetry and popular culture. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:00 | |
He loved popular culture. He was way ahead of his time. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
Most of early 20th century writing, modernism particularly, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
is set up in opposition to popular culture, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
which is seen as completely trashy and trivial. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
Dylan never really accepted that, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
and so working as a film script writer allowed him | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
to leap across the gap, as it were. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
And a man-made journey still within the island gates | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
Through valleys and troubles | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
Over hills slag-black or grey as slumtown slates | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
Or through fat lovely fields all lying green under their flower folds | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
To where Wales waits... | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
Dylan's talent for what he called descriptive visual writing - | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
the famously idiosyncratic style that would later | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
manifest itself in Under Milk Wood - | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
certainly blossomed during his time at Strand. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
Meadow and chapel and huge bitten sea coast | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
Hump-backed, iron-tracked, bricked-over, smoked-out | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Spread-eagled bundle of valleys | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
The valley's voice... | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
On the centenary of his birth, perhaps it's only fitting | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
that Dylan Thomas's considerable poetic achievements | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
should be the main focus of the celebrations. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
However, we should not ignore his work | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
in the field of propaganda and film. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
It influenced his development as a poet, and perhaps we cannot | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
fully appreciate his poetry without also acknowledging his love of film. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 |