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This is the city where one of the most extraordinary | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
stories of British poetry unfolded. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
It was here in New York that the Welsh poet Dylan Thomas first | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
burst onto the American scene - reading to thousands, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
recording LPs, and touring like an unlikely rock star. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
And Thomas might have done a lot more, too, had he not died here - | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
aged just 39. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
But death didn't stop the bandwagon. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
By the end of the 1960s, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
Dylan Thomas was arguably the most famous poet in the world. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
And he's still famous today - although often as much for the tales | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
of his eventful life, his drinking and womanising, as for his poetry. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
I'm Owen Shears, a Welsh poet, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
and this year, I'll be the same age that Dylan Thomas was | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
when he died in this city. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
Over the years, like many readers, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
I've fallen in and out of love with Thomas's poetry. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
But what I've never lost is | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
an admiration for the unmistakable power of his work. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
So just what was it about these poems that shot him to fame | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
as a teenager? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
How did he go about creating them? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
And looked at in the cold light of day, just how good are they? | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
100 years after his birth, and six decades from his death, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
now is a fitting time to ask just what was it about Dylan Thomas's | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
poems that so caught - and continues to catch - the world's imagination? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
Dylan Thomas might just be the most famous English language poet | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
of the 20th century. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Poems like Fern Hill | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
and Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night regularly top | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
polls of all-time favourites - and not just in Britain. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
And yet for all that his work is loved, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
Thomas is certainly not without his detractors. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Some critics have claimed that his poetry is showy and overblown, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
a collection of turbo-charged sound effects, high on style | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
but low on content. I don't really think that's fair, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
and in this programme I want to take a clear-eyed look | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
at Dylan Thomas's poetry, across the full range of his writing life. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
Because if you do, I think, what you find is plentiful evidence | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
of a great craftsman at work, and for Thomas being perhaps | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
the most original poetic visionary of the last hundred years. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
This, then, is a tale, not so much about Thomas's life | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
as about his words. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
It's not always easy to pinpoint the beginning of a literary career. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
But in the case of Dylan Thomas, I think we can do just that. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
And for one of the most challenging, controversial poets | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
of the 20th century, it all begins in a pretty unusual place. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
And this is it - The Listener magazine, March 14, 1934. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Dylan Thomas was just 19 years old. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
The Listener was one of the BBC's two weekly publications - | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
the smaller, brainier sibling of the Radio Times. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
But here, tucked away in a corner, was something completely unexpected. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
Light breaks where no sun shines | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Where no sea runs, the waters of the heart | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
Push in their tides | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
And broken ghosts with glow-worms in their heads | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
The things of light file through the flesh | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Where no flesh decks the bone. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
Light Breaks Where No Sun Shines | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
was one of the major poems of the 1930s, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
a creative depth charge unlike anything seen before. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
The great poet TS Eliot was so taken with Light Breaks | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
that he wrote to its author. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
Eliot was a literary giant, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
yet the person he was writing to was a virtual unknown. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Some people might expect at that time | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
a letter from TS Eliot to a radical young poet | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
to be making its way to an Oxford college or a Bloomsbury flat. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
But instead, that letter came here - | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
a semidetached suburban house in Swansea, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
an industrial town on the Welsh coast. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
Certainly well on the outer fringes of the literary establishment. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Number Five, Cwmdonkin Drive was a respectable middle-class household. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
Its head, DJ Thomas, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
was an intellectual schoolmaster with a book-lined study. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
His wife, Florence, had a maid to help her run the house. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
But TS Eliot's letter was addressed to their son - | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
19 years old, still living at home | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
and with barely a qualification to his name. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
Upstairs, behind his closed bedroom door, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
something extraordinary was happening. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
So this is it. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
The bedroom where the young Dylan Thomas would have worked. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
And it's amazing to think that in this very small room, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
so small that Dylan said you had to walk out to turn around, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
this is where some of the most exciting | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
and original poems of the 20th century were written. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Light Breaks Where No Sun Shines, And Death Shall Have No Dominion, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
The Force That Through The Green Fuse Drives The Flower - | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
they all started here in this room | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
with, it has to be said, not the most inspiring of views, just a view | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
of a blank wall, but it obviously worked for the young Thomas. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
A candle in the thighs | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Warms youth and seed and burns the seeds of age | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
Where no seed stirs | 0:07:12 | 0:07:13 | |
The fruit of man unwrinkles in the stars | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
Bright as a fig | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Where no wax is, the candle shows its hairs. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
He's got this intensity, this full-on-ness, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
he's so unembarrassed | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
and so full of... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
There's a boldness to his poetry, to the...kind of the sexual fluids | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
and the massive universal life and death imagery, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
It's incredibly ambitious and bold and lusty and rich | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
and he's obviously just intoxicated by language - he loves words, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
and if there's a kind of gateway drug to poetry, if there's a poet | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
who's going to get you addicted to words, perhaps it's Thomas. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
The extraordinary poems that the teenage Dylan Thomas created | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
in his bedroom were all set down in very ordinary school exercise books. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
Amazingly, we still have those books, now 80 years old. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
They're owned by the university at Buffalo in New York State, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
and are back in Wales this year for the first time since they left. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
It's extraordinary to think that these are those very same notebooks | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
that Thomas worked on in that tiny bedroom in Swansea. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
It's a very intimate | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
and a very moving experience to be here with them. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
I'm not only able to see his drafting and the elements | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
of his writing, but there are even his fingerprints in the ink. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
It's because Thomas was so young | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
when he was writing in these notebooks that we can trace through | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
them, poem by poem, his youthful search for an original poetic voice. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
And what's very clear is that Thomas had no interest, obviously | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
from very early on, in merely following the style of the day. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
We can watch him in these poems as step by step | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
he increasingly moves further away from the everyday world around him | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
of trams and cars and away from the standard | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
modes of poetry being written at the time, until he arrives at poems | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
such as Light Breaks Where No Sun Shines, which although we can | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
see where they've come from, at the same time, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
they're also like nothing that's ever been seen before, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
incantatory, hypnotic and visceral. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
And yet for all this impact, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
what bothered some readers was quite simply - what does it mean? | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
In the case of Dylan Thomas, to ask what the poem means, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
what is its story, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:54 | |
is sometimes to ask the wrong question of his work. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
The poem itself is actually inviting us | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
to ask a much more interesting question. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Not so much WHAT does a poem mean, as HOW can a poem mean? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
Because that's what's going on here. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Thomas wants to create new forms of poetic experience, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
to open language to new ways of meaning, on an instinctive, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
aural, maybe even animalistic level. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
He wants Light Breaks to be a communication more than | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
a description, a sensory event. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
Light Breaks Where No Sun Shines is unusual | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
because it's intensely inward, and it fuses the cosmos with | 0:10:35 | 0:10:41 | |
the body, there's no social level or layer at all. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
At a time when young poets were all moving towards making | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
political statements, talking about modern machinery, modernity, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
the surfaces of the new Britain, trains, pylons, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
at that time, Thomas was the one poet who seems to be turning back | 0:10:58 | 0:11:04 | |
to more archaic things. Blood, bone, the heart, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
the inwards of the body, as it were, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
and connecting those to the stars, the galaxies, the cosmic cycles. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:18 | |
So, what exactly is the experience Thomas wants us | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
to have in Light Breaks? | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
Well, looking at these images in the first verse, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
where are they leading us, what are their associations? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
"Light breaks where no sun shines | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
"The things of light | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
"File through the flesh where no flesh decks the bones." | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
To me, this seems to be a poem about the conception of a child. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
"Where no sea runs, the waters of the heart push in their tides." | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Is this not the very first circulation of the blood? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
And these "broken ghosts with glow-worms in their heads," | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
could these not be the sperm, travelling towards the ovum? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
Am I right? Who knows? | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
However we try to interpret the poem, though, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
what's always true is that having passed through it, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
we've been altered by its images and music. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
We've been moved by it as a song might move us, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
on an emotional level of sound and association. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
And that's what's really important here - | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
that we've sensed a creation rather than known one. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
Light breaks on secret lots | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
On tips of thought where thoughts smell in the rain | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
When logics dies | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
The secret of the soil grows through the eye | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
And blood jumps in the sun | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Above the waste allotments the dawn halts. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
Light Breaks Where No Sun Shines appeared in Dylan Thomas' | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
first collection, 18 Poems, published in 1934. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
The book's dense, visionary poetry wasn't to everyone's taste. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
One critic said it was "just poetical stuff without | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
"shape or form, rather like a tap being turned on." | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
The unlikely lad from Swansea had made a huge breakthrough. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
But the charge of being out of control of his art | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
would haunt him for the rest of his career. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
MUSIC: "Love Is The Sweetest Thing" by Ray Noble | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
# Love is the sweetest thing | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
# What else on earth could ever bring | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
# Such happiness to everything | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
# As love's old story... # | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
As the 1930s unfolded, Dylan Thomas led a nomadic life, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
centring on London. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
He married Caitlin Macnamara, a former dancer, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
and they had a son, Llewelyn. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Two further collections cemented his reputation, but didn't advance it. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
Some critics detected a repetitiveness, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
a failure to move on. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
And it was hardly surprising - Thomas was still drawing | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
most of his poems from his early teenage notebooks. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
But then the outside world intervened in Thomas's life | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
in the most direct way imaginable | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
and propelled his poetry to a new level. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
EXPLOSIONS AND GUNSHOTS | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
So, what did Dylan Thomas do during the war? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Well, it was a highly unlikely job for a radical modernist poet | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
and a political refusenik. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
But it was one which would contribute to a crucial | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
change in Thomas's poetry, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
when Dylan Thomas the poet became Dylan Thomas the propaganda writer. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
MARCHING MUSIC | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
'We are the makers, the workers | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
'the wounded, the dying, the dead, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
'the blind, the frostbitten, the burnt, the legless | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
'the mad...' | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
Working for the Ministry of Information, Thomas scripted | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
14 wartime documentaries. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
Some of these films are now regarded as classics, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
the qualities of Thomas's storytelling and language | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
lifting the images beyond their immediate purpose. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
'..the slaves, in Greece and China, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
'and Poland, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
'digging our own graves.' | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
Writing poems, though, was proving more difficult. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
"War can't produce poetry," Thomas wrote to a friend, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
and for much of the conflict, it was true where he was concerned. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
Between 1941 and 1944, he wrote little poetry that we know of. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
But then the words began to flow again. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
Over the course of the war, Thomas would write three poems | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
in response to the bombing of British cities. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
The best of these, and I think the poem in which he glimpses | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
his way forward, is the audaciously-titled | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
A Refusal to Mourn the Death, by Fire, of a Child in London. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
Never until the mankind making | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Bird beast and flower | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
Fathering and all humbling darkness | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Tells with silence the last light breaking | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
And the still hour | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
Is come of the sea tumbling in harness | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
And I must enter again the round | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Zion of the water bead | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
And the synagogue of the ear of corn | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
Shall I let pray the shadow of a sound | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
Or sow my salt seed | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
In the least valley of sackcloth to mourn | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
The majesty and burning of the child's death. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
A Refusal to Mourn the Death, by Fire, of a Child in London. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
It offers itself no hiding place. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
It imagines an afterlife in which suffering won't occur again, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
in which death cannot happen again because it's happened | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
in the here and now, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
and I find that very moving. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
The poem opens with an incredibly long opening sentence. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
If you look at it, it doesn't land with the poem's first full-stop | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
until halfway through the poem. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
It's a really brave piece of suspended sense by Thomas | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
in which he holds us off and then holds us off again. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
What the sentence is saying, essentially, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
is that Thomas is refusing to participate in the public | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
mourning of the child's death | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
until a list of impossible conditions have been met, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
until both he and the world have come to an end. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
He will not mourn her, he says, until the last light has broken | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
or the sea tumbling in its harness has been stilled. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
Now, perhaps this is a response by Thomas to his working in those | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
propaganda films in which the horrors of war are exploited | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
for other purposes. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
But I think there's something else feeding into this line as well. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
A Refusal to Mourn the Death, by Fire, of a Child in London, yes, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
it's about the archaic continuum that the dead girl | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
will enter into, and you think, well, no, it's not specific, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
maybe it is just Thomas talking about the cosmos | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
and the body again, and then you start to notice details. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
For example, there's a reference to "the round Zion of the water bead" | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
and "the synagogue of the ear of corn". | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
If you look at the draft for this poem, November 1944, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
those two properties aren't in it, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
but between that time and March of 1945, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
the revelations about the concentration camps have emerged. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
And he's writing a poem about a dead child, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
I don't think, once you've detected that, there can be any doubt that | 0:19:10 | 0:19:16 | |
this is what he's hinting at, the atrocities of Nazi-occupied Europe. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:22 | |
I shall not murder | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
The mankind of her going with a grave truth | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
Nor blaspheme down the stations of the breath | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
With any further | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
Elegy of innocence and youth. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
Deep with the first dead lies London's daughter. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Robed in the long friends | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
The grains beyond age, the dark veins of her mother. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
Secret by the unmourning water | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Of the riding Thames. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
After the first death, there is no other. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Having refused to elegise the child, Thomas then does exactly that, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
and all the more effectively for having repudiated a public mourning. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
And then there's that great final line, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
simple but pregnant with ambiguity, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
"After the first death, there is no other." | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
It's a line that's been interpreted at either end of the scale, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
both as an affirmation of life everlasting after death, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
and also not. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
But what's really interesting for me is that regardless of how | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
you interpret the line, because of its pacing and its lilt, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
it's been lent a very strong sense of finality and consolation. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
And what's especially effective here is that break, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
that pause halfway through that you can't help but read. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
"After the first death, there is no other." | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
And through that breaking of his rhythm, somehow Thomas has | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
managed to pull it off, and has moved from the apparently impossible | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
challenge of the poem's title | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
to a very real note of resting and peace. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
I...always want...poems, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
and I think the best poems do get away from you all the time. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
If you're being entranced enough by the thing | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
and it's still like smoke in your clutch, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
then that'll do for me, I mean, that is a kind of | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
hallmark of a good poem for me and I imagine for most people as well. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
And that's absolutely what I get at the end of this. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Where that ambiguity works, as in this particular poem, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
we're talking about a very significant poet indeed. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
A Refusal to Mourn appeared in Dylan Thomas's fourth collection | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
of poetry, Deaths and Entrances, published in 1946. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
The volume was hailed as a triumph, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
and established Thomas as the major British poet of the decade. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
His first three volumes | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
had sold just a few hundred copies between them, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
but Deaths and Entrances shifted over 10,000 copies | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
in its first year alone. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
And Thomas was still young, just 31. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
So where would he take his art next? | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
The answer lay in part in the last poem in Deaths and Entrances. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
Thomas rushed it to the publishers at the last minute. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
"I very much want it included," he wrote, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
"as it is an essential part of the feeling | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
"and meaning of the book as a whole." | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
It's a poem that he later described as being one | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
"for evenings and tears." | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
And yet he also said of it that it was a joyful poem, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
"the joy as real as that which made the words come at last | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
"out of a never-to-be buried childhood in heaven, or Wales." | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
Now as I was young and easy under the apple boughs | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
About the lilting house and happy as the grass was green | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
The night above the dingle starry | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
Time let me hail and climb | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
Golden in the heydays of his eyes | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
And honoured among wagons I was prince of the apple towns | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
And once below a time I lordly had the trees and leaves | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
Trail with daisies and barley | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
Down the rivers of the windfall light. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
Fern Hill was a real place - the Carmarthenshire farm | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
where Dylan the child had spent summer holidays. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
The poem was written in 1945 shortly after V-J Day in a cottage | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
a stone's throw from Fern Hill itself. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
Thomas had always been a poet of early life. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
But here foetuses and burning children give way to real, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
ordinary childhood - Thomas's own. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
It's been called the poem he was born to write. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
My favourite Thomas poem is probably Fern Hill. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
It seems to me somehow a cornerstone, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
it seems to lie at the heart of it all, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
that this was him definitively saying, "I am like this | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
"because this was my childhood, this is me, this is what I am," | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
and I think just the best things about Thomas are all working there. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
It's a song of praise. Whatever you believe, it's a song of praise. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
So, just what did Dylan Thomas manage to do in this poem to give it | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
such a place in the hearts of generations of readers? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
As usual, Thomas begins as he means to proceed. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
"Now as I was" is a paradox in terms of time. It's both past | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
and present, and it wonderfully prepares us | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
for Fern Hill's winning mix of immediacy and nostalgia. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
But that "now" also does something else for Thomas, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
in that it introduces a more conversational tone, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
a more storytelling voice. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
From that first line, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
the poem really rolls along as if in the voice of a remembering, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
excited child, all of these "ands" and "its" and "lovelies" layering | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
upon each other like the brimming delights of a summer holiday. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Fern Hill is like a lot of Thomas's poems, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
it works on at least two levels. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
So there's a popular level. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
It's everybody's granny's favourite poem. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
It was voted fourth in a recent poll of favourite poems. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
It's a feel-good poem. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
But it has other levels, you know, it has depths. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
Fern Hill is a poem of peace. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
It comes in September of 1945, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
after the war, and I think Thomas does want to lead the reader out | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
from these meditations on war, these hauntings by dead children, | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
as it were, by presenting something which is fresher. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
But it's not a total escape. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
"Time held me green and dying | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
"Though I sang in my chains like the sea." | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
It's hardly a ringing endorsement of a utopian childhood. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
So what of the underlying meaning of Fern Hill? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Well, right from the first stanza, there are hints. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
"Once below a time" sounds rather whimsical at first. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
But it's a line that carries the great theme of the poem. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
Even a child is "below," subject to the inescapable process of time. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
Nothing I cared, in the lamb white days, that time would take me | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
Up to the swallow thronged loft by the shadow of my hand | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
In the moon that is always rising | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
Nor that riding to sleep | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
I should hear him fly with the high fields | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
And wake to the farm forever fled from the childless land | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
Oh, as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Time held me green and dying | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Though I sang in my chains like the sea. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
As the poem draws to an end, the skies darken. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
The swallow-thronged loft is a symbol of evening, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
but also of departure and migration. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
And the child is led there by the shadow of his hand | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
"in the moon that is always rising." | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
The moon, that colder, nocturnal celestial body. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
Fern Hill, I've always found a difficult poem, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
because it's always made me feel melancholy. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
I think there's a tremendous... | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
..awareness of the world slipping away... | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
..that is quite breathtaking, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
and I feel emotional about it now, and I'm quite surprised at myself | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
because I thought I was past feeling emotional about Dylan Thomas. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
But that poem... | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
..is so knowing about what it's losing, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
that it's no wonder that it's stood the test of time. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
Fern Hill closes with one of poetry's great endings, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
and this from the master of endings. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
"Oh, as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
"Time held me green and dying | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
"Though I sang in my chains like the sea." | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
There's a wonderful balance of opposites here. The speaker | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
in the poem is both young and free, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
and, yet, also dying and constrained. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
And with that very last line, | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
"Though I sang in my chains like the sea," | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
you can't help but think that this is Thomas also writing about | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
himself as a poet, his verbal energy that is given liberty | 0:29:04 | 0:29:09 | |
through the chains of the patterns and forms in which he works. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
Fern Hill confirmed Dylan Thomas | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
as the most popular British poet of his day. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
But some early critics were far from kind to it, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
seeing it as a pastoral sell-out by a previously tough-minded poet. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
Yet, to me, Fern Hill, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
with its tender and vulnerable exploration of innocence and loss, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
reads like Thomas's moving search for healing after the trauma of war. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
In 1949, Dylan Thomas - husband, father of three, famous poet - | 0:30:29 | 0:30:36 | |
moved to the place now most associated with him, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
the Boat House in Laugharne. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
Thomas was 34 years old and now had, at long last, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
what all writers yearn for - a place of his own in which to write. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:53 | |
Wow. And this is it. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
The near-mythical Writing Shed, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
where most of his late poetry was written. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
It's in this extraordinary position, perched on a cliff, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
with this amazing view of sea and fields and sky. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
I must say it's very moving to be in here. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
So close to Thomas's desk where he wrote those poems. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
Thomas may have found the perfect place for writing | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
but the poetry was not coming easily. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
For all that the Writing Shed has become a symbol of his craft, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
he only ever managed to write six poems here. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
But those late poems saw him once again moving in a new direction, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
drawing inspiration not from his teenage febrile imagination, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
or from events of war or memory, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
but from the natural landscape outside these windows. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
This was the view he looked out on every day, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
and it soon began to flood into his poems. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
One of the best of these late poems is Poem On His Birthday. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
In the mustardseed sun | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
By full tilt river and switchback sea | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
Where the cormorants scud | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
In his house on stilts high among beaks | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
And palavers of birds | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
This sandgrain day in the bent bay's grave | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
He celebrates and spurns | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
His driftwood 35th wind turned age | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
Herons spire and spear. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
The poem is packed full | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
of the natural world outside these windows - | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
palavers of birds, herons spire and spear, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
the switchback sea with its congered waves, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
full of eels, pastures of otters, hawks and gulls. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
It's a great example of Thomas the nature poet, capturing | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
in single images the essence of the animal world around him. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
But unlike in Fern Hill, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
the natural world here isn't being used to celebrate. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
Rather the actions of the birds and the fishes are harnessed | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
by Thomas to illustrate the argument of his poem. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
That man in his living, like all of nature, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
is progressing headlong in the direction of his own death. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
Under and round him go | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
Flounders, gulls, on their cold, dying trails | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
Doing what they are told | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
Curlews aloud in the congered waves | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
Work at their ways to death | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
And the rhymer in the long tongued room | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
Who tolls his birthday bell | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
Toils towards the ambush of his wounds | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
Herons, stepple stemmed, bless. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
They're poems of observation but there's also that strong sense | 0:34:00 | 0:34:06 | |
of the outsider in the natural world, someone who hasn't got | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
access to the continuity of nature, someone who will die. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
It's as if the sense of mortality means | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
he can't or can't any longer engage in nature as part of it. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:24 | |
He's a watcher, almost a desirer, who can't ever reach it. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:30 | |
Ideas of death, entwined with nature and religion, haunt the poem. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
Yet Thomas was writing about his 35th birthday - | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
only halfway to the Biblical quota of three score years and ten. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
What could account, then, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
for this growing obsession with mortality? | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
What's of no doubt is that there is a great power | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
at the heart of this poem. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Not a celestial one, but a terrible man-made power. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
One which, at the time Thomas was writing, threatened everyone, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
wherever they lived. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
He talks about the bones of the hills being blasted out, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
he talks of rocketing winds, and he speaks of a serpent cloud. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
So again in Thomas's slightly disguised and mythical register, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
he's talking about the threat of another world war, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
and he's talking about the threat of atomic destruction. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
So that hangs over this poem. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
And he's very aware of the fact that | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
that might be the end of the world, there might be no more birthdays. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
And this last blessing most | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
That the closer I move | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
To death, one man through his sundered hulks | 0:36:07 | 0:36:12 | |
The louder the sun blooms | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
And the tusked, ramshackling sea exults | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
And every wave of the way | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
And gale I tackle, the whole world then | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
With more triumphant faith | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
That ever was since the world was said | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
Spins its morning of praise. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
I think of Thomas working in that boat house | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
and his poems have at once | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
that sense of timelessness that | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
all great poems have, that they've existed forever. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
And that they have made themselves, in some sense. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
And set against that, of course, the very strong sense that | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
a lot of banging and sawing have gone into | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
the making of the poems. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
And I think of his poems in a strange way as being clinker-built. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
As being actually marvels of engineering. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:29 | |
These here are some copies of just some of the worksheets for | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
Poem On His Birthday. In total, there were over 200 of them. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
What these lists brilliantly illustrate is the nature | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
of Thomas's tireless search for what he considered to be the right word. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
Not just in terms of its sense, but in terms of its music. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
In these worksheets we can follow him on his trails and watch | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
the lines of the poem strengthen as he changes his choices. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
So "the shriller the sun blooms" becomes "the louder the sun blooms." | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
"Sings its morning of praise" | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
becomes "spins its morning of praise." | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
What's quite surprising is just how ordinary | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
and expected some of Thomas's first word choices are. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
But he then uses that first choice as a launch pad, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
a starting point from which to go off and search for | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
the unexpected word that will bring the line springing off the page. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
In a short career, Dylan Thomas had already travelled a great way. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
He had been a radical young modernist, a public elegist, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
a poet of place, and now a nature poet. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
But his next step would see him move into a whole new world - | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
and take modern poetry with him. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
For quite a while, there'd been growing interest | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
in Thomas's work across the Atlantic. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
In turn, Thomas had his eye on America - | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
a place blissfully free of establishment critics and | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
whatever it was that was stemming the flow of his poetry. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
So when John Malcolm Brinnin - | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
an American poet and literary wheeler-dealer - | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
invited Thomas to cross the Atlantic to tour, read and lecture, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
he didn't hesitate to sign up. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
In February 1950, Dylan Thomas stepped onto a plane | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
bound for America, and poetry stepped into the mass media age. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
There's something of a Dylan Thomas heritage trail in New York City, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
just as there is in back in Wales. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
There's the Chelsea Hotel where he stayed, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
the White Horse Tavern where he drank, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
and St Vincent's Hospital where he eventually died. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
These are the places, more than anywhere else, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
that have fuelled the Thomas myth | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
and, I think, helped to obscure the poems themselves in the process. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
But while these places might be the Stations of the Cross for | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Thomas tourists, none of them really tells us anything about the poetry. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
The Poetry Centre at the 92nd Street Y in New York was | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
the site of Dylan Thomas's first public poetry reading in the US. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
Its thousand-seater Kaufmann Auditorium was sold out, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
and many more people were left standing. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
Yet hardly anyone present had ever heard this poet speak. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
So what happened that night? | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
Well, John Malcolm Brinnin - Thomas's promoter - | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
introduced the poet with showbiz flair, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
and perhaps more than a little sense of what the audience wanted. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
'Not very long ago, readers of poetry in the English-speaking world | 0:41:04 | 0:41:10 | |
'found their senses quickening at the sound of a new voice. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
'A man still in his 20s had quite casually walked in and sat down | 0:41:14 | 0:41:20 | |
'among the geniuses of English poetry. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
'This young man's name was Dylan Thomas. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
'And he came, said fact and fancy, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
'out of the druidical mists of Wales.' | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
"The druidical mists of Wales." | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
The exact positioning of Brinnin's tongue and his cheek | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
are a little difficult to gauge here. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
But then Thomas himself stepped up. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
He had with him his books and lists, a selection of his own poems, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
and favourites culled from the work of others. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
Hesitant in his introduction, maybe even a little unsure, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
everything changed when he began to read. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
'And death shall have no dominion | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
'Dead men, naked they shall be one | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
'With the man in the wind and the west moon | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
'When their bones are picked clean and the clean bones gone | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
'They shall have stars at elbow and foot | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
'Though they go mad they shall be sane | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
'Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
'Though lovers be lost, love shall not | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
'And death shall have no dominion.' | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
What you notice about Thomas' voice here is how | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
different it is from the voice he used in Britain. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
It's more dramatic, more performed, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
edging the poems even closer towards song. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
He himself described it as hammy, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
his second-rate Charles Laughton voice, a badly-played trombone. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
But whatever his own opinion, the American audiences loved it. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
I think he did inherit that sense of the oral tradition | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
from his Welsh background. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
A lot of the preachers were also poets, and | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
when they were in the pulpit, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
they very often almost sang their homily. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:10 | |
They were able to make the congregation hold their breath. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
And I think he must have tried to emulate some of those. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
'Though they be mad and dead as nails | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
'Heads of the characters hammer through daisies | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
'Break in the sun till the sun breaks down | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
'And death shall have no dominion.' | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
They're poems that come from the pulpit. They are shanties, | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
they are nursery rhymes, they've got all these spoken | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
and sung qualities about them. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
Get recordings of him reading the poems, listen to them. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
I think that's the best way to experience the poems, | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
mainline, straight into the ear. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
There were several reasons for Dylan Thomas's extraordinary | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
success in America. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
Perhaps most significant, though, was his timing, which was perfect. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
His leaping rhythms spoke to the Beat writers | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
and to great jazz musicians like Charlie Parker. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
Alan Ginsburg - who became one of the gurus of this new age - | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
was enchanted. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
As was Bob Dylan, who borrowed the poet's name, and never gave it back. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
Middle-aged and portly, with bad breath and bad teeth, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
in America, Thomas became the first major British cultural export of | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
the post-war era, an unlikely rock star before rock stars even existed. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:36 | |
Over the next three years, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
Dylan Thomas would give over 150 poetry readings in America, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
crisscrossing the country on trains, boats and planes. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
It was exhausting. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
He may have been a literary rock star, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
but he had to carry his own suitcases. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
America wasn't all about giving readings of past glories, though. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
Something new finally emerged here, and it provoked a response | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
very different from that directed towards the poetry. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
In a programme about Thomas's poetry, | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
I don't want to dwell too long on Under Milk Wood. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
For a start, it isn't a poem - | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
"a play for voices" is how Thomas himself described it, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
written in a "prose with blood pressure." | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
But at the same time, you can't deny the poetic charge of the piece. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:45 | |
There are, I think, between the lewd jokes | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
and the montages of dialogue, so many moments of, for Thomas, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
surprisingly understated pathos and lyrical beauty. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
Under Milk Wood premiered in New York in May, 1953. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
That opening night saw Thomas himself take the role of narrator. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:08 | |
'To begin at the beginning. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
'It is spring, moonless night in the small town, | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
'starless and bible-black, the cobblestreets silent and the | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
'hunched, courters'-and-rabbits' wood | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
'limping invisible down to the sloeblack, slow, black, crowblack, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:33 | |
'fishing boat bobbing sea.' | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
It's just shot through with poetic technique, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
and when I listen to it I get hung up on the word order. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:44 | |
I'm fascinated by the character description, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
the choice of words, the diction. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
Not so much the story, not really interested. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
I just love the roll and pitch of the language all the way through. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:59 | |
Even the prose is always veering towards poetry, I think. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:06 | |
Poetry was his first language. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
On the whole, I've never thought of Thomas as a poet you'd go to | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
for intimate truths of human nature. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
But in Under Milk Wood, that all changes. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
Here in the dark, sexualised, funny and flawed hopes | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
and dreams of the people of Llareggub, Thomas reveals | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
himself to be a passionate observer of human frailties. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
And this, I think, is where the real strengths of the play lie. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
Not so much in its poetry as in its being infused, | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
for all its satire and mocking, with a sincere warmth | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
and love for the characters at the mercy of Thomas's pen. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
Under Milk Wood was the last major piece of writing | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
that Dylan Thomas completed. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:06 | |
But there's one final poem I want to have a look at. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
It's perhaps Thomas's most famous poem, many would say his best. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
And it brings our story full circle. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
Do not go gentle into that good night | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
Old age should burn and rave at close of day | 0:48:34 | 0:48:40 | |
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:47 | |
If Thomas's poems got more personal as he got older, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
his craft ever more wedded to the suffered life, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
then Do Not Go Gentle is surely one of the most personal of all. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
We're left in no doubt as to its subject. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
"And you, my father, there on the sad height..." | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
This is no longer the cosmos going about its cyclical business, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
observed from a writerly distance. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
This is death crossing the threshold into the house, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
and coming for the man who helped shape the young poet. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
Though wise men at their end know dark is right | 0:49:36 | 0:49:41 | |
Because their words had forked no lightning they | 0:49:41 | 0:49:45 | |
Do not go gentle into that good night. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
Dylan Thomas's father, DJ, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
had been his son's poetical starter motor, reading him poems, | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
providing him with books, correcting his early work. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
But DJ himself was a man of frustrated talents. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
Despite his first-class degree in English, he never attained | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
the university post some say he always longed for. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
And his own poetry passed unnoticed. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
How exactly this affected DJ's son is difficult to say. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
But some have interpreted Dylan Thomas's very particular career | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
in the light of his father's life. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
Literary aspiration and achievement, yes, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
but also a certain disdain for the establishment worlds of academia | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
and literature that had left his father out in the cold. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
What's remarkable about Thomas's great lament for his father, though, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
is its extraordinary restraint. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright | 0:50:50 | 0:50:57 | |
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:09 | |
This is one of the very earliest manuscripts | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
of Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
It's such a famous poem, and such a complete poem, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
that to hold it here now, it feels almost timeless, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
or centuries old, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
rather than something that was written in the 1950s. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
It's become, in the scale of its popular reception, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
almost a secular psalm. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
It's impossible to go to a funeral these days | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
without hearing a Dylan Thomas poem. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
I mean, those poems - And Death Shall Have No Dominion and | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night touch people. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:55 | |
Um... | 0:51:57 | 0:51:58 | |
And people feel that poetry has some kind of use in the world | 0:52:01 | 0:52:09 | |
at that moment when they feel that they need to reach for something. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:14 | |
The first thing that's really noticeable about this poem | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
is its form, which I think is vital to understanding its power. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
To write about his dying father, | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
Thomas has chosen one of the most difficult poetic forms imaginable. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
This is a villanelle - originally a French form that was used | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
for lighter subjects such as dancing songs or stories of rural delight. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
So to write a villanelle about death was highly unconventional. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
The villanelle is a tight, limiting form. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
There are just two repeating rhymes across the whole poem. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
And it's not enough to get a line to work once. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:55 | |
Two lines are repeated, their meanings subtly changing. | 0:52:55 | 0:53:01 | |
It's an argument that advances while using exactly the same words. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:06 | |
The thing about a villanelle is that although it's limiting, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
if you get it right, it has an almost undeniable power. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
Look at those repeating lines for example. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
"Do not go gentle into that good night | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
"Rage, rage against the dying of the light." | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
As the poem advances, these lines pull against each other to | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
create a really interesting tension. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
On the one hand, they repeatedly reinforce the idea that | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
Thomas wants his father to resist death, to struggle and to fight. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
But on the other, the sheer number of repetitions makes us | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
begin to wonder if Thomas is protesting too much. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
And whether even he is really convinced by what he's saying. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
CLOCK TICKS | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
I lost my own father recently and was rereading Do Not Go Gentle. | 0:53:55 | 0:54:00 | |
And I cannot believe any child would wish a parent or a father, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:06 | |
a loved father, to go raging into the dark. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:11 | |
That doesn't convince me. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
My view...I've changed my mind about this poem. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
My view is that it's Dylan Thomas's elegy for himself. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
He was already drying up, | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
facing a period where he couldn't write as fluently as he could. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
This is a terrible thing for a poet, because if you don't write, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:34 | |
you believe that you're never going to write again. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
I think he was talking to himself and saying, | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
"Come on, don't go gently, don't accept this, do something," | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
so I find it quite a desperate poem and a very painful one to read now. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
One of the great strengths of Dylan Thomas's poetry is that it's | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
loaded with meaning, often multiple meanings, both contradictory | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
and yet complementary. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
In Do Not Go Gentle he takes this quality to a new level. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
In the poem, there's one sense that belongs to its words on the page, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
and then another quite different sense that belongs to its sound. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
And it's there, I think, in that contradiction, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
that the key to this poem's emotional potency lies. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
The poem is actually saying... | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
don't die. It's saying, kick against the pricks. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
And it's addressed to his father. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
That's what the poem says on the surface, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
that's the content, if you like. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
But if you read the poem to yourself or aloud, it has a lulling, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:36 | |
almost a lullaby sort of effect, and it seems to me that | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
that's the counter-narrative. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
On the surface the poem is saying, "put up a struggle, don't go gently" | 0:55:42 | 0:55:47 | |
But the rhythm of the poem is saying, you know, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
"Please, just go peacefully, good night, make it a good death, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:56 | |
"lapse into it, let there be no pain for you." | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
And you, my father, there on the sad height | 0:56:00 | 0:56:07 | |
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray | 0:56:07 | 0:56:14 | |
Do not go gentle into that good night | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:27 | |
The end of the story for Dylan Thomas the man is well-known. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
Dead in New York at 39, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
with all the usual suspects in the vicinity. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
To long-standing illness, | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
there'd been added the familiar excesses of a celebrity lifestyle. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
And a posthumous celebrity was what Dylan Thomas became - | 0:57:02 | 0:57:07 | |
the poet of choice for film stars, pop stars, presidents, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
and countless teenage poetry fans all over the world. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
60 years on, the stations of Dylan Thomas's life have | 0:57:19 | 0:57:24 | |
become something of a tourist trail. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
But is this the best way to get closer to him and his work? | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
I'd argue that if you really want to make a pilgrimage to Dylan Thomas, | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
then you're better off opening a book of his poems | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
than jumping on a bus. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:42 | |
Because it's in his poems that you'll meet the truest | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
essence of him, and with all the immediate energy of his living self. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
His ideas and concerns, his joys and despairs, and of course | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
his extraordinary gift for making language dance to his tune. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
When we enter his poetry, we see through his eyes, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
and speak with his voice. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
We inhabit him and he inhabits us, and in so doing | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
a part of him, I'd say the most vital part of him, lives on. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 |