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Now on BBC News, a Talking Movies Sports Special.

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Hello, and welcome to Talking Movies.

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In today's programme, as the Olympic Games draws

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to a close, we look at how cinema has often used this international

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sports extravaganza as the backdrop to explore a wide range of issues.

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And we also revisit a much loved Olympic sports from which shines

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a light on a country overlooked by mainstream movies.

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And, as the Olympics come to an end, blockbuster season will shortly be

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So we are reviewing the season's highs and lows on finding out

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what you, the public, mode of it all.

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Plus two of the smallest pictures to have seen the light of day

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All that and more, in this edition of Talking Movies.

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Historically, many films have used the Olympic Games not just

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to explore the sporting extravaganza itself,

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but also to cast a light on a wide range of issues.

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Everything from anti-Semitism to racism, to matters of gender

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and terrorism have been dealt with in different Olympic

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Talking Movies has been exploring this trend.

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To many, one of the greatest movies to use the Olympic Games

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as a backdrop is the Oscar-winning Chariots Of Fire.

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It's set in the early 1920s, with a story that touched on among

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other things anti-Semitism, as do the German Olympic Games

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Set in 1936, which also deals with gender issues.

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And Race patrolled the racism confronting

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four-time gold medal winner African American Jesse Owens,

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Where is it that Olympic Games themed films so often turn

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Because I think the Olympics are heightened, it's international,

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so it just sets the scene for all kinds of drama to play out,

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and all kinds of issues to be discussed.

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But just how accurate are these films which are often

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The athletes of the Israeli team are being held prisoner...

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Munich, released in 2005, directed by Steven Spielberg,

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begins with the Palestinian militant group Black September holding

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athletes hostage at the 1972 Munich summer Olympics.

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Former Israeli agent Juval Aviv, whose story is said to have inspired

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Munich, maintains the film is precise in its portrayal of events.

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Although I spent time with Spielberg discussing a lot of it,

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When I finally saw the movie - I had a special screening for myself

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and my family - I went through two boxes of tissues.

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Because it was really going back and reliving the whole of it again.

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Irrespective of their factual accuracy, some of these

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issue-oriented Olympic Games films still have topical relevance.

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Chariots Of Fire depicted a form of polite or gentleman's

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anti-Semitism, existing in a world where discrimination

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Gentleman's anti-Semitism is maybe not as both on and maybe not

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Gentleman's anti-Semitism is maybe not as brazen and maybe not

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as violent in its manifestation, but at its core it is as ugly

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Low-level bubbling of anti-Semitism in the film is equitable with what's

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happening now in terms of anti-Islamic

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Do these films, which often deal with some quite urgent problems,

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make a difference, or are they just dismissed as entertainment?

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One of the main ways in which these pictures can make an impact

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Munich got a lot of people talking, it certainly was

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Certainly many people either never knew or had forgotten about what had

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It's one of the best movies about the global war on terror,

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even though it was about an event that happened earlier.

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Claims are also made for Chariots Of Fire, and it sparked

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The message in these Olympic Games related films

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Chariots Of Fire is probably not remembered for its depiction

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of gentleman's anti-Semitism, but much more because of its

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MUSIC: Chariots of Fire Theme by Vangelis.

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Films about the Olympics also offer

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an opportunity to direct global attention to nations often

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Two decades ago, Hollywood discovered one of the greatest

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underdog sports stories of all time, in a place that no one expected.

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If you were a child in the early 1990s, you will immediately

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recognise this joyful refrain from Cool Runnings,

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a hit film based on the true story of the first Jamaican bobsled team.

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The plot is an amalgam of winning formulas.

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A heart-warming fish out of water comedy,

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It follows a team of Jamaican sprinters, who,

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after missing out on the chance to represent their country in track

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and field, turn to the bobsled in a last-ditch effort to make

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They recruit a disgraced American bobsled coach,

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played by John Candy in one of his last roles,

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To the words "Give up" mean anything to you?

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The film remains the second highest grossing Olympic

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And its success is due to the effectiveness

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They Jamaican bobsled team feels like the apotheosis

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But what separates Cool Runnings from other forms of its kind

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is its heavy dose of Caribbean flavour.

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In fact, the film is one of the most prominent depictions

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of Jamaican culture ever to hit the silver screen.

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A fact not lost on the Jamaican born director of a new documentary,

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The Price Of Memory, which explores the legacy of slavery

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The movie was telling a very Jamaican story in a way that

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Before, Jamaica would be a location in a movie.

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Like, you know, people from Hollywood, Tom Cruise

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or whoever, would be on vacation somewhere or in love somewhere,

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and a Jamaican would be somebody giving them a drink or an extra.

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But with this one it was a film that's telling a Jamaican story,

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it's about that struggle to achieve some kind of success.

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Before that, most of the time people would see Jamaica, the rastas,

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or a reggae movie like Rockers, The Harder They Come and so on.

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But this wasn't about positions, it was about regular people.

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And these regular people were athletes.

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So I think it showed a broader image of what Jamaicans could be.

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You need winter as in igloos and Eskimos and penguins and ice?

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The athletes in the film face numerous challenges.

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They are unaccustomed to the freezing cold weather,

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and they can't afford a decent bobsled for training.

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They also face subtle racism from the Olympic establishment,

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who refuse to take their bid for athletic achievement seriously.

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Cool Runnings opened here in New York in October of 1993,

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and in the years since it has earned a significant legacy.

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Olympians of a certain age frequently cite the film as an early

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inspiration for their dreams of athletic excellence.

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A Swedish skier even carried in his pocket an egg

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during his trial run in Sochi, just like one of the characters

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But not everyone is convinced Cool Runnings deserves its accolades.

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It's one of those weird cultural oddities that's

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A movie about a Jamaican bobsled team.

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There have been a million romantic comedies where, you know,

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There's one movie in which John Candy

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played the world's unlikeliest bobsled coach.

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And a bunch of all actors that no one heard of before

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or since, you know, played the odd bobsled team.

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And because of this sort of accumulation of oddities,

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And we live in a sort of been at a where memorability equates

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And we live in a sort of time where memorability equates

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equates to quality - that's just not so.

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Even if Cool Runnings seems to some more of a novelty

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than a piece of fine cinema, it may be remembered as one

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of the last Olympics themed movies to be a genuine blockbuster.

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It's not a profitable job these days.

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With the lead up to this year's Olympics tainted

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by scandal and criticism, from Russian doping to sewage-

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Cool Runnings does feel like a relic from a more optimistic era,

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when the Games represented the best athletics had to offer.

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Now we go to look back at blockbuster season

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as it draws to a close, both the highs and lows.

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To be honest, blockbuster season 2016 hasn't the greatest.

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But what were some of the favourites bringing in the crowds?

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We sampled opinion is on the streets.

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Oh, this summer I saw Captain Fantastic, I thought

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To discuss blockbuster season more fully, I enlisted the help of screen

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Crush editor in chief and film critic Matt Singer.

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One film that has done really well is Captain America,

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why has that been drawing people in, do you think?

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Well, I think Captain America movie did well because number one,

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it's the latest Marvel movie and all of Marvel's movie so far

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And it really delivered in the "More is more" department

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There have been a lot of familiar sequels this year.

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Have any films broken new ground at all?

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I'm struggling to think of one, I mean I think what's gone wrong

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is you see a lot of sequels that people don't really want.

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That's where the formula seems to have kind of faltered.

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Sure, people want to see another Captain America,

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and I think they're want even for the most part a new Star Trek,

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but then you get into things like Independence Day: Resurgence,

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do people want to see another Independence Day especially

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Do people really want to see another Snow White and the Huntsman movie,

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but without Snow White and just the Huntsman?

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Do people really want to see another Snow White and the Huntsman movie,

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but without Snow White and just the Huntsman?

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I don't know that they necessarily did.

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But there has been a female driven Ghostbusters, did that work?

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You know, I like the Ghostbusters movie, Ghostbusters is something

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that I grew up loving as a kid, and I found that

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while they were a little too slavishly devoted to making

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references and jokes and cameos to the movie,

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a bit like when the new movie just let these women be funny together,

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These are tumultuous times politically.

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At any films played into that at all in the zeitgeist?

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The villain in that movie, played by Idris Elba,

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everything he represents spick spurt what's going on.

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When he comes into contact with the enterprise crew,

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he constantly remind them that the fact that they like to work

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together, that there are diverse, that makes them with.

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This idea that political unions, like the European Union,

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are ultimately the things that will destroy us, that we need

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to exclude outsiders, that we need to protect ourselves.

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Those are the ideas that are at the centre of that movie,

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around all the explosions and fights and chases.

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The fear of death is what keeps us alive.

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What about the biggest disasters of blockbuster season,

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In terms of creatively, to be the biggest disasters have

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been movies like The Legend of Tarzan which is another

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movie that's actually done decent at the box office,

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but for the life of me I could not understand who the audience

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was for a new Tarzan movie that doesn't really do much

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The Independence Day sequel was just dreadful.

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And I was very excited for Suicide Squad, and to be

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disappointment and one that feels like it was hacked to pieces

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in the editing room and I'm not sure exactly what the process

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of making the movie was, but it's a very disappointing,

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very frustrating movie, in a season that's been

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Do think that Hollywood studios are going to pay attention to what's

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happened this summer, have a degree think about the strategy,

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happened this summer, have a big rethink about

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the strategy, and perhaps launch a new breed of films,

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I'm very curious to see how Hollywood response to this summer,

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I'm very curious to see how Hollywood responds to this summer,

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because while there have been a lot of hits, I think there has been

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a lot of general indifference if not outright antipathy towards a lot

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If the summer of 2017 is like this one, the summer

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of 2018 is not much better, they are good to have two come up

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with some new ideas, because at the moment the old ideas

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And now on to some smaller highlights of blockbuster season,

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And now on to some smaller highlights of blockbuster season -

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films at the other end of the spectrum, made modestly,

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but didn't often get their fair share of the limelight

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but that we here at Talking Movies covered.

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First up is Under The Sun, a documentary co-sponsored

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by North Korea, which didn't quite work out the way officials expected.

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North Korean officials thought Vitaly Mansky was playing

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by the rules when he shot the documentary Under The Sun.

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The Russian film-maker was supposed to chronicle the life of a typical

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But for Mansky, the behind-the-scenes reality

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of life in North Korea was what he wanted audiences to see.

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TRANSLATION: From the first to the last frame of the film,

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Everything is staged, if you look closely.

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So the only true thing about this film is this

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is the actual family: mother, father and the girl.

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According to Mansky, the family was given a script to follow.

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The script was written by North Korean officials and each

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Mansky says there were even handlers for his film crew.

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TRANSLATION: There was control from the very first moment.

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At the airport, passports were taken away.

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The people who supervised us stayed with us at the same hotel.

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And at the end of every day, we had to submit the footage.

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But the footage he submitted to North Korean

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TRANSLATION: During the short period between the end of the shooting

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and going to the hotel, we had to find time and place

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and opportunity to copy and delete the footage

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Sometimes it was done in the bathroom.

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The risk of Mansky's actions are not lost on him.

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TRANSLATION: Months ago, an American student was arrested

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in North Korea for the simple fact of taking a propaganda sign off

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He was sentenced to 15 years in jail.

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So you can imagine what their reaction was to what we've done.

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Mansky is not the first film-maker to covertly film and smuggle footage

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In fact, there are rogue citizen journalists who operate

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But what makes Mansky unique is the fact that he was authorised

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by the North Korean government, and managed to dupe officials

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in spite of surveillance, by recording in between these

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For Mansky, the film would prove that concern over Under The Sun

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wasn't just unique to North Korea and Russia.

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In fact, in 2014 a large-scale hack of the e-mails of Sony executives

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was thought to be in retaliation for the company's release of a film

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about North Korea called The Interview.

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It has been reported that fear of similar

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reprisal has caused at least one film festival in the US to drop

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But when Mike Maggiore, the programmer at

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New York's non-profit Film Forum saw the film,

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He knew what he had to do. They took great risks begin this

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back, and we had to share it with our audiences. I thought it was a

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candid look at a society that has been hidden from Western eyes, and I

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think what it shows us is that this is a society that is constantly

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overwhelmed by a drive to be obedient and there is a propaganda

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drilled into every citizen in the private and public spheres at all

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times. In spite of its rocky beginnings, the film has been

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nominated a time and 14 awards so far all over the world. Proving once

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again that audiences are fascinated by what is working behind the

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curtain. In an age when movies are consumed

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on tablets and mobile phones there is a very different way of movie

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watching. At least in India. It is the travelling cinema, mobile

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cinemas that go to different rural communities. But it is a dying

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tradition. As we discovered at a documentary shown at the Cannes film

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Festival earlier this year. Two ended film makers put together this

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documentary. They launched the film at the Cannes film Festival. More

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than anything else, this is a documentary that shines a light on

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the huge significance of cinema in rural India, by focusing on

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travelling, mobile theatres. There used to be the only way for movies

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to reach the villagers. And they were also significant --

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significantly embedded in the cultural tradition of India. So

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apart from being the exclusive vehicles in a sense of the

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experience of the movies. -- they were also a part of the ritual that

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families have been showing -- following for so many years. The

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heyday of the travelling cinema 's is most definitely over. By one

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estimate, nowadays they number in the single digits. The decline has

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been hastened by digital technology, which has given communities

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everywhere quicker access to movies. People can now access films not only

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through DVDs but also through their mobile phones. Films find their way

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into cellphones, and that is why people are drawn more to this

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because they want to see the film is quicker than everyone else, so less

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and less people are going to the travelling cinema 's. -- cinemas.

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This documentary looks at the decline of travelling cinema is by

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focusing on individuals affected by the industry's transition from old

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celluloid projectors to their new digital counterparts. The film tells

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the story of three custodians who are striving to preserve one of the

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last travelling cinemas in the world. We encounter them at this

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moment when their world is changing in a fundamental way, and the film

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uses this as a lens to look at the associations that these custodians

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have built with the families. Well, that brings this edition to a

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close. We hope you've enjoyed the programme. Please remember you can

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always reach us online: they can also find us on Facebook. From me

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and the rest of the talking movies production team, it is goodbye.

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