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Now on BBC News, a Talking Movies Sports Special. | :00:00. | :00:21. | |
Hello, and welcome to Talking Movies. | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
In today's programme, as the Olympic Games draws | :00:25. | :00:39. | |
to a close, we look at how cinema has often used this international | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
sports extravaganza as the backdrop to explore a wide range of issues. | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
And we also revisit a much loved Olympic sports from which shines | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
a light on a country overlooked by mainstream movies. | :00:49. | :00:58. | |
And, as the Olympics come to an end, blockbuster season will shortly be | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
So we are reviewing the season's highs and lows on finding out | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
what you, the public, mode of it all. | :01:07. | :01:08. | |
Plus two of the smallest pictures to have seen the light of day | :01:09. | :01:15. | |
All that and more, in this edition of Talking Movies. | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
Historically, many films have used the Olympic Games not just | :01:19. | :01:20. | |
to explore the sporting extravaganza itself, | :01:21. | :01:22. | |
but also to cast a light on a wide range of issues. | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
Everything from anti-Semitism to racism, to matters of gender | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
and terrorism have been dealt with in different Olympic | :01:28. | :01:29. | |
Talking Movies has been exploring this trend. | :01:30. | :01:40. | |
To many, one of the greatest movies to use the Olympic Games | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
as a backdrop is the Oscar-winning Chariots Of Fire. | :01:46. | :02:01. | |
It's set in the early 1920s, with a story that touched on among | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
other things anti-Semitism, as do the German Olympic Games | :02:05. | :02:10. | |
Set in 1936, which also deals with gender issues. | :02:11. | :02:19. | |
And Race patrolled the racism confronting | :02:20. | :02:21. | |
four-time gold medal winner African American Jesse Owens, | :02:22. | :02:23. | |
Where is it that Olympic Games themed films so often turn | :02:24. | :02:34. | |
Because I think the Olympics are heightened, it's international, | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
so it just sets the scene for all kinds of drama to play out, | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
and all kinds of issues to be discussed. | :02:41. | :02:42. | |
But just how accurate are these films which are often | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
The athletes of the Israeli team are being held prisoner... | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
Munich, released in 2005, directed by Steven Spielberg, | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
begins with the Palestinian militant group Black September holding | :02:51. | :02:52. | |
athletes hostage at the 1972 Munich summer Olympics. | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
Former Israeli agent Juval Aviv, whose story is said to have inspired | :02:56. | :02:58. | |
Munich, maintains the film is precise in its portrayal of events. | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
Although I spent time with Spielberg discussing a lot of it, | :03:02. | :03:08. | |
When I finally saw the movie - I had a special screening for myself | :03:09. | :03:19. | |
and my family - I went through two boxes of tissues. | :03:20. | :03:21. | |
Because it was really going back and reliving the whole of it again. | :03:22. | :03:42. | |
Irrespective of their factual accuracy, some of these | :03:43. | :03:44. | |
issue-oriented Olympic Games films still have topical relevance. | :03:45. | :03:51. | |
Chariots Of Fire depicted a form of polite or gentleman's | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
anti-Semitism, existing in a world where discrimination | :03:55. | :03:56. | |
Gentleman's anti-Semitism is maybe not as both on and maybe not | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
Gentleman's anti-Semitism is maybe not as brazen and maybe not | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
as violent in its manifestation, but at its core it is as ugly | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
Low-level bubbling of anti-Semitism in the film is equitable with what's | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
happening now in terms of anti-Islamic | :04:12. | :04:12. | |
Do these films, which often deal with some quite urgent problems, | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
make a difference, or are they just dismissed as entertainment? | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
One of the main ways in which these pictures can make an impact | :04:24. | :04:30. | |
Munich got a lot of people talking, it certainly was | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
Certainly many people either never knew or had forgotten about what had | :04:36. | :04:49. | |
It's one of the best movies about the global war on terror, | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
even though it was about an event that happened earlier. | :04:54. | :05:03. | |
Claims are also made for Chariots Of Fire, and it sparked | :05:04. | :05:05. | |
The message in these Olympic Games related films | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
Chariots Of Fire is probably not remembered for its depiction | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
of gentleman's anti-Semitism, but much more because of its | :05:13. | :05:14. | |
MUSIC: Chariots of Fire Theme by Vangelis. | :05:15. | :05:26. | |
Films about the Olympics also offer | :05:27. | :05:28. | |
an opportunity to direct global attention to nations often | :05:29. | :05:39. | |
Two decades ago, Hollywood discovered one of the greatest | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
underdog sports stories of all time, in a place that no one expected. | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
If you were a child in the early 1990s, you will immediately | :05:46. | :06:05. | |
recognise this joyful refrain from Cool Runnings, | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
a hit film based on the true story of the first Jamaican bobsled team. | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
The plot is an amalgam of winning formulas. | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
A heart-warming fish out of water comedy, | :06:19. | :06:20. | |
It follows a team of Jamaican sprinters, who, | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
after missing out on the chance to represent their country in track | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
and field, turn to the bobsled in a last-ditch effort to make | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
They recruit a disgraced American bobsled coach, | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
played by John Candy in one of his last roles, | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
To the words "Give up" mean anything to you? | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
The film remains the second highest grossing Olympic | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
And its success is due to the effectiveness | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
They Jamaican bobsled team feels like the apotheosis | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
But what separates Cool Runnings from other forms of its kind | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
is its heavy dose of Caribbean flavour. | :06:53. | :06:53. | |
In fact, the film is one of the most prominent depictions | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
of Jamaican culture ever to hit the silver screen. | :06:57. | :06:58. | |
A fact not lost on the Jamaican born director of a new documentary, | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
The Price Of Memory, which explores the legacy of slavery | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
The movie was telling a very Jamaican story in a way that | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
Before, Jamaica would be a location in a movie. | :07:10. | :07:12. | |
Like, you know, people from Hollywood, Tom Cruise | :07:13. | :07:14. | |
or whoever, would be on vacation somewhere or in love somewhere, | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
and a Jamaican would be somebody giving them a drink or an extra. | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
But with this one it was a film that's telling a Jamaican story, | :07:22. | :07:28. | |
it's about that struggle to achieve some kind of success. | :07:29. | :07:30. | |
Before that, most of the time people would see Jamaica, the rastas, | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
or a reggae movie like Rockers, The Harder They Come and so on. | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
But this wasn't about positions, it was about regular people. | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
And these regular people were athletes. | :07:40. | :07:46. | |
So I think it showed a broader image of what Jamaicans could be. | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
You need winter as in igloos and Eskimos and penguins and ice? | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
The athletes in the film face numerous challenges. | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
They are unaccustomed to the freezing cold weather, | :07:56. | :07:57. | |
and they can't afford a decent bobsled for training. | :07:58. | :08:00. | |
They also face subtle racism from the Olympic establishment, | :08:01. | :08:02. | |
who refuse to take their bid for athletic achievement seriously. | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
Cool Runnings opened here in New York in October of 1993, | :08:06. | :08:20. | |
and in the years since it has earned a significant legacy. | :08:21. | :08:28. | |
Olympians of a certain age frequently cite the film as an early | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
inspiration for their dreams of athletic excellence. | :08:33. | :08:40. | |
A Swedish skier even carried in his pocket an egg | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
during his trial run in Sochi, just like one of the characters | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
But not everyone is convinced Cool Runnings deserves its accolades. | :08:47. | :08:58. | |
It's one of those weird cultural oddities that's | :08:59. | :09:00. | |
A movie about a Jamaican bobsled team. | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
There have been a million romantic comedies where, you know, | :09:04. | :09:12. | |
There's one movie in which John Candy | :09:13. | :09:38. | |
played the world's unlikeliest bobsled coach. | :09:39. | :09:39. | |
And a bunch of all actors that no one heard of before | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
or since, you know, played the odd bobsled team. | :09:43. | :09:44. | |
And because of this sort of accumulation of oddities, | :09:45. | :09:46. | |
And we live in a sort of been at a where memorability equates | :09:47. | :09:54. | |
And we live in a sort of time where memorability equates | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
equates to quality - that's just not so. | :09:59. | :10:05. | |
Even if Cool Runnings seems to some more of a novelty | :10:06. | :10:07. | |
than a piece of fine cinema, it may be remembered as one | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
of the last Olympics themed movies to be a genuine blockbuster. | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
It's not a profitable job these days. | :10:14. | :10:15. | |
With the lead up to this year's Olympics tainted | :10:16. | :10:17. | |
by scandal and criticism, from Russian doping to sewage- | :10:18. | :10:24. | |
Cool Runnings does feel like a relic from a more optimistic era, | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
when the Games represented the best athletics had to offer. | :10:29. | :10:54. | |
Now we go to look back at blockbuster season | :10:55. | :10:56. | |
as it draws to a close, both the highs and lows. | :10:57. | :10:59. | |
To be honest, blockbuster season 2016 hasn't the greatest. | :11:00. | :11:01. | |
But what were some of the favourites bringing in the crowds? | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
We sampled opinion is on the streets. | :11:05. | :11:05. | |
Oh, this summer I saw Captain Fantastic, I thought | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
To discuss blockbuster season more fully, I enlisted the help of screen | :11:12. | :11:30. | |
Crush editor in chief and film critic Matt Singer. | :11:31. | :11:40. | |
One film that has done really well is Captain America, | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
why has that been drawing people in, do you think? | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
Well, I think Captain America movie did well because number one, | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
it's the latest Marvel movie and all of Marvel's movie so far | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
And it really delivered in the "More is more" department | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
There have been a lot of familiar sequels this year. | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
Have any films broken new ground at all? | :12:02. | :12:03. | |
I'm struggling to think of one, I mean I think what's gone wrong | :12:04. | :12:06. | |
is you see a lot of sequels that people don't really want. | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
That's where the formula seems to have kind of faltered. | :12:10. | :12:11. | |
Sure, people want to see another Captain America, | :12:12. | :12:13. | |
and I think they're want even for the most part a new Star Trek, | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
but then you get into things like Independence Day: Resurgence, | :12:19. | :12:27. | |
do people want to see another Independence Day especially | :12:28. | :12:29. | |
Do people really want to see another Snow White and the Huntsman movie, | :12:30. | :12:40. | |
but without Snow White and just the Huntsman? | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
Do people really want to see another Snow White and the Huntsman movie, | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
but without Snow White and just the Huntsman? | :12:47. | :12:48. | |
I don't know that they necessarily did. | :12:49. | :12:50. | |
But there has been a female driven Ghostbusters, did that work? | :12:51. | :12:53. | |
You know, I like the Ghostbusters movie, Ghostbusters is something | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
that I grew up loving as a kid, and I found that | :12:59. | :13:00. | |
while they were a little too slavishly devoted to making | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
references and jokes and cameos to the movie, | :13:04. | :13:05. | |
a bit like when the new movie just let these women be funny together, | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
These are tumultuous times politically. | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
At any films played into that at all in the zeitgeist? | :13:15. | :13:16. | |
The villain in that movie, played by Idris Elba, | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
everything he represents spick spurt what's going on. | :13:20. | :13:21. | |
When he comes into contact with the enterprise crew, | :13:22. | :13:23. | |
he constantly remind them that the fact that they like to work | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
together, that there are diverse, that makes them with. | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
This idea that political unions, like the European Union, | :13:30. | :13:31. | |
are ultimately the things that will destroy us, that we need | :13:32. | :13:33. | |
to exclude outsiders, that we need to protect ourselves. | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
Those are the ideas that are at the centre of that movie, | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
around all the explosions and fights and chases. | :13:42. | :13:43. | |
The fear of death is what keeps us alive. | :13:44. | :13:45. | |
What about the biggest disasters of blockbuster season, | :13:46. | :13:47. | |
In terms of creatively, to be the biggest disasters have | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
been movies like The Legend of Tarzan which is another | :13:53. | :13:54. | |
movie that's actually done decent at the box office, | :13:55. | :13:56. | |
but for the life of me I could not understand who the audience | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
was for a new Tarzan movie that doesn't really do much | :14:01. | :14:02. | |
The Independence Day sequel was just dreadful. | :14:03. | :14:05. | |
And I was very excited for Suicide Squad, and to be | :14:06. | :14:08. | |
disappointment and one that feels like it was hacked to pieces | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
in the editing room and I'm not sure exactly what the process | :14:13. | :14:15. | |
of making the movie was, but it's a very disappointing, | :14:16. | :14:17. | |
very frustrating movie, in a season that's been | :14:18. | :14:19. | |
Do think that Hollywood studios are going to pay attention to what's | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
happened this summer, have a degree think about the strategy, | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
happened this summer, have a big rethink about | :14:28. | :14:29. | |
the strategy, and perhaps launch a new breed of films, | :14:30. | :14:31. | |
I'm very curious to see how Hollywood response to this summer, | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
I'm very curious to see how Hollywood responds to this summer, | :14:37. | :14:38. | |
because while there have been a lot of hits, I think there has been | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
a lot of general indifference if not outright antipathy towards a lot | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
If the summer of 2017 is like this one, the summer | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
of 2018 is not much better, they are good to have two come up | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
with some new ideas, because at the moment the old ideas | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
And now on to some smaller highlights of blockbuster season, | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
And now on to some smaller highlights of blockbuster season - | :15:03. | :15:04. | |
films at the other end of the spectrum, made modestly, | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
but didn't often get their fair share of the limelight | :15:08. | :15:09. | |
but that we here at Talking Movies covered. | :15:10. | :15:11. | |
First up is Under The Sun, a documentary co-sponsored | :15:12. | :15:13. | |
by North Korea, which didn't quite work out the way officials expected. | :15:14. | :15:16. | |
North Korean officials thought Vitaly Mansky was playing | :15:17. | :15:18. | |
by the rules when he shot the documentary Under The Sun. | :15:19. | :15:21. | |
The Russian film-maker was supposed to chronicle the life of a typical | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
But for Mansky, the behind-the-scenes reality | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
of life in North Korea was what he wanted audiences to see. | :15:29. | :15:31. | |
TRANSLATION: From the first to the last frame of the film, | :15:32. | :15:33. | |
Everything is staged, if you look closely. | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
So the only true thing about this film is this | :15:37. | :15:38. | |
is the actual family: mother, father and the girl. | :15:39. | :15:40. | |
According to Mansky, the family was given a script to follow. | :15:41. | :15:43. | |
The script was written by North Korean officials and each | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
Mansky says there were even handlers for his film crew. | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
TRANSLATION: There was control from the very first moment. | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
At the airport, passports were taken away. | :15:58. | :16:03. | |
The people who supervised us stayed with us at the same hotel. | :16:04. | :16:14. | |
And at the end of every day, we had to submit the footage. | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
But the footage he submitted to North Korean | :16:19. | :16:20. | |
TRANSLATION: During the short period between the end of the shooting | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
and going to the hotel, we had to find time and place | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
and opportunity to copy and delete the footage | :16:28. | :16:29. | |
Sometimes it was done in the bathroom. | :16:30. | :16:35. | |
The risk of Mansky's actions are not lost on him. | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
TRANSLATION: Months ago, an American student was arrested | :16:39. | :16:40. | |
in North Korea for the simple fact of taking a propaganda sign off | :16:41. | :16:43. | |
He was sentenced to 15 years in jail. | :16:44. | :16:54. | |
So you can imagine what their reaction was to what we've done. | :16:55. | :16:57. | |
Mansky is not the first film-maker to covertly film and smuggle footage | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
In fact, there are rogue citizen journalists who operate | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
But what makes Mansky unique is the fact that he was authorised | :17:04. | :17:16. | |
by the North Korean government, and managed to dupe officials | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
in spite of surveillance, by recording in between these | :17:23. | :17:24. | |
For Mansky, the film would prove that concern over Under The Sun | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
wasn't just unique to North Korea and Russia. | :17:29. | :17:30. | |
In fact, in 2014 a large-scale hack of the e-mails of Sony executives | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
was thought to be in retaliation for the company's release of a film | :17:37. | :17:39. | |
about North Korea called The Interview. | :17:40. | :17:40. | |
It has been reported that fear of similar | :17:41. | :17:42. | |
reprisal has caused at least one film festival in the US to drop | :17:43. | :17:45. | |
But when Mike Maggiore, the programmer at | :17:46. | :17:56. | |
New York's non-profit Film Forum saw the film, | :17:57. | :18:10. | |
He knew what he had to do. They took great risks begin this | :18:11. | :18:18. | |
back, and we had to share it with our audiences. I thought it was a | :18:19. | :18:23. | |
candid look at a society that has been hidden from Western eyes, and I | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
think what it shows us is that this is a society that is constantly | :18:29. | :18:41. | |
overwhelmed by a drive to be obedient and there is a propaganda | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
drilled into every citizen in the private and public spheres at all | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
times. In spite of its rocky beginnings, the film has been | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
nominated a time and 14 awards so far all over the world. Proving once | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
again that audiences are fascinated by what is working behind the | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
curtain. In an age when movies are consumed | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
on tablets and mobile phones there is a very different way of movie | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
watching. At least in India. It is the travelling cinema, mobile | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
cinemas that go to different rural communities. But it is a dying | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
tradition. As we discovered at a documentary shown at the Cannes film | :19:28. | :19:38. | |
Festival earlier this year. Two ended film makers put together this | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
documentary. They launched the film at the Cannes film Festival. More | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
than anything else, this is a documentary that shines a light on | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
the huge significance of cinema in rural India, by focusing on | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
travelling, mobile theatres. There used to be the only way for movies | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
to reach the villagers. And they were also significant -- | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
significantly embedded in the cultural tradition of India. So | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
apart from being the exclusive vehicles in a sense of the | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
experience of the movies. -- they were also a part of the ritual that | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
families have been showing -- following for so many years. The | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
heyday of the travelling cinema 's is most definitely over. By one | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
estimate, nowadays they number in the single digits. The decline has | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
been hastened by digital technology, which has given communities | :20:35. | :20:43. | |
everywhere quicker access to movies. People can now access films not only | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
through DVDs but also through their mobile phones. Films find their way | :20:48. | :20:55. | |
into cellphones, and that is why people are drawn more to this | :20:56. | :21:02. | |
because they want to see the film is quicker than everyone else, so less | :21:03. | :21:05. | |
and less people are going to the travelling cinema 's. -- cinemas. | :21:06. | :21:14. | |
This documentary looks at the decline of travelling cinema is by | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
focusing on individuals affected by the industry's transition from old | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
celluloid projectors to their new digital counterparts. The film tells | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
the story of three custodians who are striving to preserve one of the | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
last travelling cinemas in the world. We encounter them at this | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
moment when their world is changing in a fundamental way, and the film | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
uses this as a lens to look at the associations that these custodians | :21:42. | :21:52. | |
have built with the families. Well, that brings this edition to a | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
close. We hope you've enjoyed the programme. Please remember you can | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
always reach us online: they can also find us on Facebook. From me | :22:04. | :22:10. | |
and the rest of the talking movies production team, it is goodbye. | :22:11. | :23:11. | |
A combination of big spring tides and gale | :23:12. | :23:12. |