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Peter Howson is one of the world's most collected living artists.

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His work hangs on the walls of galleries and museums

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and in the homes of rock stars and actors.

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He's a man with a turbulent past and a present

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haunted by financial problems and worries about his mental health.

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I understood what it was like to be in the mind of a madman.

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It's not a nice place to be.

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In 2008, he received the biggest commission of his career,

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to paint the largest ever crowd scene in the history of British art.

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But the commission is fraught with so much difficulty

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that its completion is in jeopardy from day one.

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It's a big painting. It feels even bigger now, you know.

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It feels like a monster now.

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This film follows Peter over two difficult years,

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a journey that took him to the brink of bankruptcy and also to the edge of his sanity.

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You don't know what I'm like. You don't know how mad I am.

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The way I start painting is in this way,

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to get the whole thing covered, the whole canvas covered,

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with a stain, I suppose, of some kind of colour, you know.

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This is my favourite colour, because it's got a warmth

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that comes through, this kind of reddy-brown oxide.

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And then I use a rag to really paint light and it's really, you know,

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just to get the drawing right, I suppose, and get the kind of feeling right.

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Peter Howson is one of Britain's most prolific artists,

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a figurative painter, often working on a grand scale, with thousands of works of art to his name.

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Peter still stands outside the, kind of, what would one say,

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the polite conventions of contemporary art.

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He's a no-holds-barred artist.

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There's no...

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there's no fudging. This is the way he sees it.

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It's always amusing to me,

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all the celebrities that are named as having bought Peter's works

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and I can't verify all of them.

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I know in the early years, it was Sylvester Stallone.

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And I remember meeting Stallone at a Los Angeles art fair

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and he walked by our booth and he stopped with his two henchmen

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and looked at this wonderful, amazing boxer painting of Peter's and admired it.

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And I probably told Peter that and he probably mentioned it to a journalist and the journalist

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probably mentioned that Sylvester Stallone collected Peter's works.

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And once it's in one newspaper, it stays in those newspapers for ever.

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I can tell you, from my personal experience, that David Bowie has bought the work and is a big fan.

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Madonna is a very major fan and he's a very well collected artist.

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When I saw this man, I thought,

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"Now, I want to buy a painting". And they're quite expensive for me.

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But when I had job

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and I had some money, I would invest it in a work of art

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of Howson. So I became a collector.

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Having Howson in my life has, in some way,

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given me a sense of what I am, what I care for, even who I am.

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We need artists like we need lightning rods on the roof of houses.

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They take the lightning of the world and hold it.

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And then we look at them and we feel enriched and we feel this power,

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without being struck by the lightning.

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It is the artist who is struck and burnt

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and scarred by the lightning.

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Peter's uncompromising and emotional painting style comes directly from his own life experience.

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In the past, he has battled with alcohol and drug addiction and had financial problems.

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After years of mental illness, he has recently been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome,

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a form of autism characterised by difficulties in dealing with other people.

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The reason why I draw is to remain sane, because...

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and paint, because it keeps me on the right kind of track, I suppose, you know.

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Peter's work observes a darker side of life,

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celebrations of the common man, depicting a very human struggle.

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He takes, the kind of, our environment

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in a way no other Brit has even come near to doing.

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I think Howson goes further, because he illuminates for us

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the actual essence of what it is to be British.

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It's almost biblical.

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I started painting and drawing when I was about four years old.

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I'd done a crucifixion when I was six, so I suppose,

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even then, even at that early age,

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the crucifixion meant something to me.

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Peter's paintings often had Christian overtones,

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but these became much more overt when he had a spiritual revelation

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after nearly dying in re-hab for treatment of drink and drug addiction in the year 2000.

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I was in a terrible state.

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I was pretty near the point where I, you know, would have probably

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conked out and they gave me all these anti-psychotic drugs.

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I was starting to see big, sort of, furry, pink rabbits

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coming into the room and everything. And it was the DTs and all that.

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And then I just, one night, got down on my hands and knees and said a prayer to,

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basically, take away this skin off me, this whole thing, and just shed my skin.

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And, basically, I had this vision, basically, of this incredible feeling came into the room.

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Nothing like an angel appeared, but it was certainly a presence.

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All it said was that,

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"You're loved, you're cured.

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"You'll never drink again or you'll never take a drug again.

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"You won't not suffer again, but I'm with you, basically."

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And for the next three months after that, from that night onwards,

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the vision came to me every night.

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In October 2008, the Catholic Church made the contentious decision

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to pick Peter - a Protestant and a reformed addict - to paint a massive eight-metre-high canvas

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depicting the martyrdom of St John Ogilvie, as part of the renovation of St Andrews Cathedral in Glasgow.

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John Ogilvie was the only Catholic priest martyred in Scotland after the Reformation.

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In 1615, he was hung and then disembowelled in Glasgow,

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after being found guilty of treason, for holding Catholic mass.

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When I came down to Glasgow, about seven years ago, as the Archbishop,

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and saw that the cathedral needed some renovation and improvement and so on -

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it's nearly 200 years old and is in need of it -

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I looked around and was surprised not to find something

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in the cathedral to mark the life of St John Ogilvie.

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And he was martyred here in Glasgow, not very far from this cathedral.

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And then, of course,

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I began to be interested in the work of Peter Howson.

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His talent, in the sort of expression

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and the vigour of his style

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and the crowd scenes and the passion he's able to put into his paintings,

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and yet a tenderness, which I've seen in more recent work,

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I think is just the ideal quality,

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the ideal characteristics for the painting we're conceiving.

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The painting, although commissioned for the cathedral, was never going to be paid for by the Church.

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Instead, Peter's management devised a plan that required him to paint ten smaller canvases

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which would be sold to fund the massive Ogilvie commission.

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Peter agrees to go along with this extremely ambitious plan,

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despite his state of mind and his financial situation.

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Any doubts he has on the funding are outweighed by his desire to paint a large sacred work.

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First of all a word of welcome,

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welcome to you who have come to hear of the project

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we have proposed for the cathedral.

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And I'm very grateful indeed for the enthusiasm which Peter Howson has shown towards this project

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and the way in which he is already, as it were, entering into something of the sense and significance

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of St John Ogilvie's life, in order to portray it within our cathedral.

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The Ogilvie project will be the biggest single painting of Peter's career.

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Along with the ten other canvases to fund the commission, it is a massive endeavour for any artist

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and an even greater one for someone in Peter's fragile mental and financial state.

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Since I was very young,

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I've wanted to do a major painting for the church.

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You know, I've been looking, since I was very young,

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at Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel

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and I'd love to do something like that, something major.

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That sounds very big headed, but I suppose I am big headed, in a way!

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ISLAMIC CALL TO PRAYER

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To seek inspiration before starting the Ogilvie commission,

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Peter makes a rare journey away from his routine in Glasgow,

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to accompany the archbishop on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

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This is the old city of Jerusalem in front of us. This is my favourite city in the world.

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That is the centre of the planet for me and it's where I can feel so much excitement and joy,

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at times, but it's tension mainly, because this city could explode

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at any point, really, with all the factions.

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Our Father who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy Name.

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Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, On Earth as it is in Heaven...

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This is the start of the Stations of the Cross.

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It's difficult to get an idea of that, you know,

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and there's a cross waiting for us over there, as well.

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I can't equate any of this to what I'm going to be doing

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with John Ogilvie, really. Just, it'll be...

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All I'm trying to do is get some kind of peace and inspiration here,

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I suppose, but I'm agitated quite a lot of the time, still,

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with big crowds of people. But I'm still enjoying it, though.

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I suppose I'm enjoying getting annoyed probably, you know.

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You see, the problem with Christian art, you know,

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when you buy your souvenirs around Bethlehem or Jerusalem,

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Jesus is always seen as being slightly weak and pretty.

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And it's kitschy, the art, really, you know.

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The real Jesus wasn't like that at all. The real Jesus was a wild man.

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The difficulty for artists is to capture that, you know,

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to see the real Jesus. I mean, the guide was saying

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people are looking for Jesus in the various places.

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They're looking for a footprint here or, you know,

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a hand mark there or a thumb print or a sign of him, a stone,

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a marking, anywhere, you know. And they can never find him.

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You just can't do it.

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I'm under a huge amount of stress

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and this gives me a lot of spiritual energy, really.

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It comes down from above. That's the way...

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I feel strong, I feel strong again.

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I can go back to Glasgow now and I can kick ass, if you don't mind.

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Oh, sorry, I shouldn't have said that!

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Peter returns to Glasgow, but doesn't begin work on the Ogilvie commission.

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Even three months after the project was announced, he is nowhere near

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starting the main canvas, never mind the ten smaller ones,

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to be sold to fund the project.

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Instead, he's keeping himself busy completing other work in his studio.

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Peter hasn't started the John Ogilvie painting because he has had a row

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with his local management over the funding of the project.

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Basically I'm getting rid of the people that take care of me,

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who thought they were involved in this commission.

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They are no longer doing this commission, they are out,

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as far as I'm concerned, and I'm dealing with the Catholic church,

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me and them, which is the way I always wanted to do it.

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These people think they made me, for some reason.

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They come along three or four years ago and they think,

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"this guy's a fool and we're going to make him," you know.

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-Do you want to say who they were?

-No, I can't say who they were.

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Peter has realised that the original plan,

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to deliver ten paintings to fund the cathedral commission,

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is not financially viable

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and leads to him leaving his management and going it alone.

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The financial deal wasn't any good.

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It wasn't going to work, basically, so it's no fault of the Church, or anything like that.

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Basically what it is, is that I'm probably going to end up

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gifting the painting to the Church...

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..and that will remove any difficulties, except for financial.

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It'll create financial difficulties, We'll have to find sponsorship.

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I'll have to find it to pay for the thing to be done, you know, as it's going to cost a lot of money to do -

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about 80,000, possibly, maybe even 100,000.

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So it's building up the frustration nicely, you know, so that there'll be a...

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When it finally happens, it'll be a blast, you know.

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Peter's formal training to be an artist began when he was 17,

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as a student at the Glasgow School of Art.

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But he became disillusioned and left to join the army,

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before returning to finish his course four years later.

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I think it was pretty obvious that he had a talent,

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the first time I actually spoke to him and saw his work.

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And he had hundreds and hundreds of drawings and paintings...

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of the landscape, etc, etc.

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We were looking through, but it was like he was doing them almost by, he was doing them in his sleep.

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He could do this.

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And I felt he should be doing something else.

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And we were looking through some sketch book

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and there were a group of drawings of, really just rough drawings,

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of memories of barrack life, being in the army.

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And I said, "This is what you should be doing."

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The army was pretty bad. It was the actual bullying that I couldn't take.

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It wasn't me being bullied, it was other people being bullied.

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The fact is, you know, I just didn't like the brutality.

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I think we've got some of the first real successful images

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of army life, really, when he really,

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I think, maybe towards the end of his fourth year.

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And this is when you think, "Whoa, this guy's...

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"He's an important artist, he's got something to say.

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"You know, he counts."

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What Howson says now is something we've got to look at, really think about.

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After art school, Peter came to global prominence as an artist as one of the new Glasgow Boys.

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And in 1993, he was the subject of a BBC documentary, when he was chosen

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to be the official war artist in the Bosnian civil war.

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GUNSHOTS

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His experiences in Bosnia not only changed his art, but his whole life.

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I was talking to Terry about Bosnia the other night.

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She thinks it's going to scar me for the rest of my life.

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From the time he was selected until now,

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it has been an appalling time.

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Not from the point of view of being worried about him

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or anything like that, just the way he's champing at the bit to go.

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Oh, oh, three of them.

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Lucy sees it as being a business trip, really.

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Her daddy goes off to London, he goes to America.

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It's just another trip.

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She'll wander around happily saying, "My daddy's off to Bosnia".

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It's only when you're confronted face to face and flesh to flesh that you actually realise

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the true situation in Bosnia, the horror of the situation, when it's staring you in the face.

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Two people killed,

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the driver of the bus there and a man who was also killed.

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And that's, er, that's what's left of him there.

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This area is occasionally, as you've just heard, under shell fire,

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-so if you want to do your sketch. It's just we don't spend too much time.

-No, no.

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And that grey object is the man's brains down there, in case you're interested.

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I can't sketch this, really.

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You just take it in, I think.

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There's no way I can watch this.

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Bosnia definitely had a deep and profound effect on Peter.

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He was a troubled man before that...

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..but my sense is that, when he came back, he was a little lost.

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And although it actually brought about one the most powerful groups of work that he ever produced,

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it did really bring about the end of his relationship with his wife.

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When he went to Bosnia,

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he changed so dramatically that I didn't know him.

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With Peter, people telling him a story, he sees the story,

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so, you know, even if he'd only heard about some atrocity,

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it would be living large in his head and it really

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badly, badly affected him.

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Bosnia had so traumatised him

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that nothing meant anything to him any more.

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And that was when we split up.

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He just walked out, disappeared, leaving behind Lucy, who just... He didn't want to know us.

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It was like a catalyst for both of them.

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The trauma of Bosnia

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made Peter's Asperger's Syndrome,

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to me, much more in your face.

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And also Lucy's autism became more extreme because of

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the devastation to her of losing her father at the time.

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I loved her, and I was worried about her,

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but I didn't know how to handle it

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and so I just kind of left her to everyone else to take care of,

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you know, and I just visited her and had her up every now and then.

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But now she's become a permanent part of my life and, you know,

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I'm learning so much now from her.

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I think that's a marked domino.

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Lucy is now 24 and divides her time between her mother's home

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and at Peter's house, with his new partner, Annie.

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This is my bedroom. It's the biggest room in the house.

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And this is work that Peter's given me since we met.

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This is a Valentine card, which, I suppose, seems a bit strange,

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because it's as if it's a down and out, but it's actually reaching forward

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and the hearts are just flowing out of where his heart is.

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You can see the wee red hearts here and it's as if he's, sort of,

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throwing himself towards, towards me, maybe. I hope it's me.

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This was actually meant to be the matrimonial bedroom...

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..but we're not married yet and maybe we will and maybe we won't.

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We're happy as we are.

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But I sleep in here and Peter's got his room.

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And it works fine.

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So, I share this bed with the dog.

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You know, Annie and I have had our problems, as well,

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because it's difficult for her to live with me like this.

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You don't know me. You don't know what I'm like.

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You're not filming me all the time, you know.

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You don't know what I'm like. You don't know how mad I am.

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It's four months after the Ogilvie commission was announced

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and no paint has even come close to a canvas.

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With the cost of the paint alone running to tens of thousands of pounds, Peter is worried.

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It's the money. The money's running out.

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I'm quite confident that things will work out, Peter.

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-Well, "quite" isn't good enough for me.

-Well, I'm very sure.

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All right, brilliant. Thank you.

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'Nitro-glycerine.

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'I mean, that's what you're, literally, handling when you're'

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round about Peter. It's like handling nitro.

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You can say one wrong word and it blows up in your face.

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After years of struggling with his mental health,

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Peter was officially diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome in early 2009.

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Asperger's Syndrome's a form of autism.

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It manifests itself in difficulties with social interaction.

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This is a hidden disability.

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People with autism spectrum disorders,

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there's nothing physical about it and so, society views that person

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as looking so-called "normal" and places certain expectations.

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And when people don't meet those expectations, that is when things become more fraught and difficult.

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People think that people with autism, or Asperger's, are thick.

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I think they are very naive

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and very literal in the way that they take things.

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And, in a way, that's the way Peter is.

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He's so intelligent, and so well read, but there is this naivety.

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He's so trusting.

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The one thing I am sure of is that, whatever condition I've got, if it's Asperger's or just

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a wee bit of madness, is that it certainly makes the paintings vital to me

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and gives me tremendous inspiration.

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These are things from a while ago. This is like sketch books, you know, these are all the lists I make up.

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My whole thing really is

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work, work, work, work, work, draw, draw, draw.

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There's lots and lots of these sketch books about.

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A few years ago, I probably would've flogged these for a hundred quid each

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and some guy would've been laughing all the way to the bank.

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That's what happens. People come into my studio,

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they buy things off me, or they have done.

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And they go out of the studio and before they even leave the studio

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I can actually feel that they've got the laughter, almost, as if I'm some kind of fool.

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That's the way I feel in my, kind of, more bitter moments.

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It's business that is the problem for me. Always has been.

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Basically, I'm, kind of, open to all sorts of philanderers

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and conmen to come and buy things off me very cheaply.

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When situations are far more complex,

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when the stakes are a lot higher,

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where they're involving large sums of money,

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Peter is more significantly impaired and, therefore, it renders him

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more vulnerable, if somebody is wishing to take advantage of that.

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Peter has been royally shafted over the years by so many people

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that I couldn't even begin to start.

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He's lost millions upon millions of pounds worth of earnings,

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but also he's lost some credibility, as well,

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because of what's happened to him in business.

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Not every piece Peter produces is great and, sometimes,

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unfinished works have left the studio

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because collectors or dealers have been eager to buy work before Peter's even finished it.

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But the well-considered works of Peter are his really strong pieces

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and at a certain time, the right curator will come along and will put together a major

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retrospective of Peter's work and he will be recognised as one of the great painters of our time.

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Six months after the commission was announced, work still hasn't started on the painting.

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Peter has been unable to work at all,

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following a complete physical collapse and being rushed into hospital in an ambulance.

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Under doctor's orders, he is forced to rest at home.

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BARKING

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Would you like...? I take it you would.

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Do you want a bite? Come on.

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He felt as though he was having a stroke.

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They did all these different tests and things and the result was

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they said he shouldn't work for three months.

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It's been confirmed, I suppose, that it's like a breakdown of sorts,

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really - a mental and a physical breakdown, you know, where your brain just shuts down.

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I couldn't talk properly or think properly.

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I couldn't read, write, even walk properly,

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for quite a few days.

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I mean, I don't know what will happen.

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You know, it's in the kind of, it just depends if I can recover.

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He's an incredibly good man, with all this strangeness,

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this ephemera, this madness, all channelling away all around him.

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But if he didn't have that, then he couldn't create those paintings.

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So, while he suffers, we benefit.

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One month after his collapse, Peter has the opening of a special exhibition of his work,

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at the Museum of Art and Religious Life in Glasgow.

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In collaboration with the Catholic Church,

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this series of paintings depicts the Irish Famine,

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from both sides of the religious divide.

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When I woke up this morning, I thought, "Oh, to hell with this, I don't really want to go in today."

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But, being a bit of a stoic, I suppose, I thought, "Well, to hell with it,

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"if I drop dead today, then at least I'll have made it in."

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I'm excited. This is a new show and it does tie in

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with the John Ogilvie project.

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Really this is like, the first stage, in a way, you know.

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A lot of people perceive the Irish Famine

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as being thousands and thousands of Catholics starving to death.

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Well, I mean, the reality is that there was many, many Protestants died in that famine, as well.

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There is this kind of huge sectarian problem in Glasgow,

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so basically this is an anti-sectarian exhibition, really.

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This is the first stage to me getting back to health.

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This proves that I'm back, really, you know.

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I've got a very good psychologist.

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I've been pronounced clinically mad and all my financial affairs

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have been taken over by a board of trustees, under a guardianship,

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so I'm very happy.

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The guardianship is in two parts.

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Peter's business affairs are now being overseen by a formal lawyer

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and his welfare by his psychologist, Michael McCreadie.

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One of the first things I did when I met Peter was to say to him,

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"You're incredibly vulnerable here

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"and there has to be things put in place that will really, kind of,

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prevent money just haemorrhaging out of your life.

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It's eight months since the Ogilvie commission was announced and Peter still hasn't started the painting.

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His mental state and the strain of severing links with his

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ex-management are magnified when the story hits the front page.

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Something's come out in the press, you know, in one of

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the tabloids, The News of the World, about this kind of problem that we've been having, you know.

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And it's hit.. the shit's hit the fan, I suppose.

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Ever since I've known Peter,

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there has been stress with him and his work.

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But I think Peter quite likes stress.

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But over the last so many months, it has been to do with -

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and I don't know if I should say this - to do with management that he's had.

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The main thing is to get on with the John Ogilvie commission,

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you know, and just do that and just forget about all this stuff.

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This stuff will just go away, you know, and people,

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people forget things, you know.

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It is now nine months since the Ogilvie commission was announced

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and the archbishop intervenes to try and break the deadlock.

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We've been able to put, at his disposal, a now disused church,

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which will act as his studio for some ten years.

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And he's delighted at that prospect.

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The Ogilvie painting is planned to be eight metres high

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and Peter's own studio isn't big enough to take work of this size.

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This payment in kind, of larger studio space from the Church,

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should at last enable Peter to start the painting.

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-We need to be able to get a canvas nine by seven in through the doors. That's kind of...

-I'll check that.

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All right, we'll check that. And this is going to be the main area where John Ogilvie is painted on here.

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The easel will go there.

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And through there is the more secret place, where no-one else gets through.

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It's a bit of a weird way of doing it, because it means that anyone

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that comes in immediately sees John Ogilvie, but that's fine.

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Through there I'll store stuff and I'll maybe do other sketches and drawings.

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Peter is visiting his new studio space for the first time,

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with his full-time assistants, Douglas and John.

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My impressions of this place are very positive and I'm excited about it.

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In fact, my voice is almost going a wee bit higher. I'm, yes, I'm excited. I am.

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I've got all these big drawings at home of John Ogilvie.

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I was just trying to get his face right, because who knows what he looked like.

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And it's whether to do him as he would have been, or whether you have to,

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kind of, slightly, kind of, heroise him a bit

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or prettify him a bit, because obviously he would have been bashed about a lot.

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He'd been tortured for seven or eight days, I think.

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So he would have been in a terrible physical condition by the time he was hung.

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I don't want to get too, kind of, overconfident,

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but this is the place where John Ogilvie will be painted

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and it's...exciting.

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Everything's moving ahead. I've been drawing,

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I've been drawing away, just various drawings,

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just to get the...to get the, kind of, a shape, really, a shape of the...of the martyrdom.

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It's quite difficult, actually.

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The most important drawing so far is probably this one.

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And this is the...

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..you're kind of getting more into the actual feeling of the thing.

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Things are moving and it's, you know, we've got the studio.

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I've just ordered the canvas and, basically,

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it's going to be 27 feet high and ten feet across.

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It's quite daunting, that size of a canvas, isn't it?

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You know, it is quite daunting and I have to get...

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Douglas has got the job of getting it into the studio.

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Now, we're going to have to somehow get it in.

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What we've had to do, because the sizes of the canvases are huge,

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we've had to actually slab a hole right along the wall

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so that we can... just like a letter box.

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We're going to have to pass the canvases through.

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Once they're in the new studio safely, I'll be quite happy.

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Ten years of... Basically, I'll be 61 by the time we leave this place.

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That's if we ever get the John Ogilvie painted.

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Despite all this effort, Peter turned down the offer

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from the archdiocese and decided not to use this as a studio, after all.

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The blank canvases are still inside.

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Almost a year after the announcement of the commission,

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Peter has decided to paint the Ogilvie on a smaller scale - and in his own studio.

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But he's still worried about raising the tens of thousands of pounds

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the materials will cost to start the painting.

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He has decided to sell his own book collection to help the fund raising.

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I shouldn't be selling it, but I need the money.

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There's a control freak. I tried to stay away, but I can't stay away, really, so...

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What the hell's happening? Is it going to go in the cupboard?!

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The truth is that it's the worst organised commission I've ever been given in my life.

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I feel as if every single ounce of energy in me has been sapped by it.

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As the auction of Peter's books is being prepared, he gets an unexpected summons to London.

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I'm in London to collect my OBE today.

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And the Queen has requested my presence at 10.20.

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'I've been quite nervous, quite nervous now, but not as nervous as I was last night.'

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I'm just really proud of him, really.

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The idea of fame

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or recognition or honour doesn't really...

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it has a, kind of, certain hollow ring to it at the moment,

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because of all the troubles that we've been through the last few years, especially the last year.

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I mean, the ironic thing is that

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I'm getting an OBE today and I'm having to sell a lot

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of family possessions to raise money, at the moment.

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I'm also slightly worried in case I run amok in Buckingham Palace.

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Is that likely? >

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Not likely. I would say 99.9% certain that it won't happen.

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But there's always a chance. I've taken my tablet.

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Oh, it's exciting, isn't it?

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-It's exciting now.

-It's exciting.

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-It is.

-Security, I love security Anything to do with security, I love.

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Do you want me to get my OBE out or what? Yeah?

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Could you hold this? I can't fold that.

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-No, of course, you can't.

-I've lost it.

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-Might get a good price for it on eBay, maybe.

-Oh!

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I need the money, though.

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It was a very beautiful ceremony. It was amazingly spectacular.

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I was very impressed with it.

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I was worried in case my pants were getting stuck up my trousers, as well, when I was doing it.

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-Or I had diarrhoea or something.

-Oh, Peter!

-What?

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A whole year after the Ogilvie commission was announced, and with the guardianship

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now giving Peter more stability, financially and psychologically, he doesn't need to worry

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about money for the Ogilvie commission. Now, all he has to do is paint it.

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-Come on, son.

-I've done my back in.

-He's done his back in.

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But I'll be OK. Don't you worry.

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It's just when I'm sitting down in the car.

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Right, I need to get a corset.

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A nice frilly one.

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So is there anything special happening today?

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Aye. A very important day.

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An important day, because I'm starting John Ogilvie today.

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'I realised the key to things over the next...is me getting into work.

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'And I haven't really been doing that, lately, at all.

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I've been kind of moping at home and the physical act of painting

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'and, you know, mental activity, is probably what I need at the moment.'

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I made the decision, if I don't do the John Ogilvie, people will gradually,

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you know, take sides with, whereas a Protestant like me doing the, working for the Church, the Catholic Church,

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will hopefully bring people together, especially if I can do a good job on it.

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I'm giving it away for nothing. It's a gift. It's an eight by six.

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It's going to be smaller,

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a lot smaller than the actual

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original kind of plan, you know.

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Originally, when the press conference took place, it was going to be

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the largest crowd scene ever painted in Scotland.

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Well, it's probably going to be the smallest crowd scene ever painted

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in Scotland now, because I'm just going to probably do John Ogilvie

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and we'll be the crowd, you know. The people that see it will be the crowd.

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Let's get on with it.

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MUSIC: "Cochise" by Audioslave

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# Go on and save yourself

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# And take it out on me

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# Go on and save yourself

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# And take it out on me

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# Go on and save yourself

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# And take it out on me

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# Go on and save yourself

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# And take it out on me

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# Go on and save yourself

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# And take it out on me

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# Go on and save yourself

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# And take it out on me

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# Go on and save yourself

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# And take it out on me

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# Yeah. #

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I didn't expect to get quite as much done.

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But I wasn't tentative today about it.

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I was right, kind of, psyched up and, you know, anything, the only thing, that would have stopped me

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coming in was probably, you know, like having

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something happening to Lucy or something, or an accident, or an epileptic fit or something.

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So I was all set for... I was raring to go.

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So it's gone well.

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It's just a start, really, isn't it? It's what happens after this.

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The start can be quite easy sometimes.

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It's what happens after that.

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As Peter forges ahead with the painting,

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the cathedral renovation is progressing slowly.

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The announcement of the papal visit has added pressure to the schedule.

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The stage they're at, at the moment,

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after having taken down so much, they're now replacing things,

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restoring things,

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putting a new floor down, looking to high level work.

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Windows have been taken out. They'll be replaced very shortly.

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It's at the stage of, I think, over the top, shall we say, of the hill.

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The date, hopefully, for completion is now mid-September.

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It was the end of September, but with the thought of the Holy Father coming and the possibility

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of his looking in en route, we would like to get it finished by mid-September.

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Peter's enthusiasm is re-fired, I think,

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and I gather from friends, who have actually seen the work,

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that it is, possibly, going to be one of his finest works.

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I haven't seen it yet and I don't want to press him, until he's ready to show it to me.

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It's looking a bit, at the moment, it's looking a wee bit

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raw and cartoon-like, I suppose, in a way, a bit caricature, almost.

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So, I have to get away from that.

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I'm just wondering whether it's possible to, for me to, to actually go beyond that, you know.

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I'm just trying to make this painting as if he's just about to meet his death, you know,

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and he's, you know, he's been through all this torture.

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Everyone's really been very kind to me.

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They've all been very understanding and I hope they're not going

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to be horrified when they see it, this painting.

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I hope it will move people to,

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to be healed by the power of John Ogilvie.

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When I was young, I was obsessed with death.

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I thought the world was going to end when I was about 13,

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12, 13 years old, and I decided I was going to do 12 last paintings before the end of the world, you know.

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I was excited about it. It was not something that I was frightened of. But I frightened everyone else.

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I mean, the idea of painting, if you think the world's not going to be here.

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It cannot be then said that I paint for posterity

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or for money or for, you know, for any kind of worldly fame.

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I'm not really interested in that.

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The reason why I paint is because my paintings change people's lives and if I can do one painting

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that can change someone's life then that's my function.

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When you think of the totality of Peter's work, it's awesome.

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I mean, this particular commission.

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How many contemporary artists could do that...

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..are capable of doing that?

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Not very many.

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After nine months work, and despite the Ogilvie canvas being complete in most people's eyes,

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Peter keeps on changing the painting.

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What stage is the painting at for you?

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It's at the shite stage.

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I've been ranting and raving all day.

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I've, kind of, forgotten how to paint, I think.

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Sometimes you've got to go through these stages of...

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..absolute hell to get there, you know.

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It's changed quite a lot since you last saw it.

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It was looking all, looking too cartoony, I suppose,

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and I wasn't pushing myself to the absolute limit.

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It's a big painting and it feels even bigger now, you know.

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It feels like a monster now.

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If you see it in a mirror, you can see whether a painting is balanced or not.

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You can see all the mistakes in it. And it's a horrific sight sometimes.

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'It's just quite ironic that it's being gifted to the Church

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'and it's causing me this amount of anguish,

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'I suppose, you know, just to do it, do the painting.'

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HE SIGHS

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Right... Thank you, time to go.

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But Peter wasn't quite finished for the day.

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So what, kind of, got you going there?

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Just a need to really destroy it, to rebuild, you know.

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I think the main thing was to get rid of the prettiness of the colours

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and the, you know, the prettiness of the subject,

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because it is a grim subject matter, you know.

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Focus on John Ogilvie, which is I think what it has done now.

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I like it better, anyway. Aye, it's definitely all right.

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Right, big man, see you in the morning.

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That last 20 minutes there, it was quite,

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it was like watching a Mike Tyson fight.

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It was exciting, because you didn't know what he was going to do.

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You didn't know if he was going to just smash right through the canvas,

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there was that much energy going into it, you know.

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And to have that confidence to be able to do that,

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I mean, especially on such a thing as large as that,

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and the amount of work and time that he's put into it.

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I was only kidding him on when I said to him this morning,

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"There must be 20 grand's worth of paint on it." But there's got to be ten grand's worth on it.

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Despite all the delays in starting, and months of work,

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Peter continues to paint out the figure on the canvas.

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I went in the next morning and I did even more,

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but I buggered it up again, so then I started getting

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more and more frustrated and I just completely covered it over -

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almost destroyed it.

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And so actually I've done another one, basically, and then started this other one as the other one

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was starting to go downhill. So I spent a week from start to finish

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on a John Ogilvie and it's better than the one I worked months on.

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The main thing is John Ogilvie is there

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and it's much, much better and more moving than the other one was.

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I'm trying not to smile here.

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-Are you pleased with it?

-Aye.

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After nearly two years, the Ogilvie is finally complete.

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A canvas a fifth the size of the original plan, but complete, nonetheless.

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With the unveiling planned to coincide with the papal visit, there is a final setback.

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Three months before the Pope comes to Glasgow,

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the main contractor for the cathedral renovation goes into administration,

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with the loss of 170 jobs.

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This will delay the completion date by at least six months.

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Given this delay, and with other work stacking up for Peter,

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the decision is made to unveil the painting at the archdiocese offices in Glasgow.

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Are you nervous about the unveiling?

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I'm nervous, yeah.

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I mean, when I first came in here, to tell the truth,

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it didn't look as good as I thought it was going to look.

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But I'm gradually warming to it again.

0:54:140:54:18

It's quite emotional, I suppose, as well,

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because it's the end of a chapter, beginning of a new chapter.

0:54:200:54:25

It's about time I got on to a new chapter, because this one's starting to get really boring.

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It's a great afternoon for us.

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At last,

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here in the Eyre Hall, we are able to unveil

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Peter Howson's gift of the painting of the martyrdom of St John Ogilvie.

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Well, thank you very much, Your Grace.

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Eh... I hope you like it, actually.

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LAUGHTER

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If there's a dead silence, then I know that you don't.

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No, it's, it's a long, it has been a long journey.

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Two years, in fact.

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And I'll tell you a wee bit about it.

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It was going to be a lot bigger

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and it was going to be one of the largest crowd scenes

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in art history.

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It sounds a bit pompous saying that.

0:55:230:55:26

I worked on a painting for about nine months, almost,

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and then, in one moment of absolute madness,

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I completely destroyed it, after nine months' work.

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But luckily, a bit like Blue Peter, I had one already prepared earlier.

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LAUGHTER

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I don't know what more I can say, apart from unveiling it, really.

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But thank you all for coming and this is the dodgy bit, in case it falls over.

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APPLAUSE

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This is very much more an invitation to engage spiritually

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with someone who, for his faith, was prepared to go to the gallows.

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He's always searching for something new and I think

0:56:350:56:38

that's something that keeps me,

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as a fan

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and a dealer in his work, interested.

0:56:430:56:46

I'm never quite sure what to expect.

0:56:460:56:48

He's an asset.

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In this time of such puerile,

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pathetic expressions of what we call art -

0:56:540:57:01

it is almost disgusting.

0:57:010:57:03

And I say, "Thank God for Peter Howson."

0:57:030:57:07

It's a very difficult thing to do, obviously -

0:57:080:57:11

paint a religious image for the 21st century.

0:57:110:57:14

How difficult is that? But most artists couldn't even

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contemplate doing something like this, but he's done it.

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So I think we have to take our hat off to Peter Howson, once again.

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I've been through a hellish time. It's a dark period.

0:57:300:57:33

It sounds a bit melodramatic, talking about me, me, me and my health.

0:57:330:57:37

But I've been, the first time in my life,

0:57:390:57:42

about two months ago,

0:57:420:57:45

I felt suicidal.

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I've fought my way through this.

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I'm still not completely out of the woods, as they say...

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..but I'm recovering now.

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I understood what it was like to be in the mind of a madman.

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It's not a very nice place to be.

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I'd like to get a bit of joy back in my life now, somehow,

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and stop being a miserable bastard.

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It's difficult, though.

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