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Hello there and welcome
to Film 2018.
I'm Al Murray.
Yes, it's late, but we're live
and would love to hear from you.
Tonight, we're talking
about going to the cinema
as a live experience.
So if you had to pick
a film to live and immerse
yourself into the world of,
what would it be?
I would want to be part of a Bridge
too far, all the great escape. Not
one of the guys who were shot at the
Details are on the screen now.
Right, let's get started.
Coming up tonight...
Quantum physics and an enormous
We are worries of the light. Welcome
to the Ava DuVernay fantasy Wrinkle
Mad or misunderstood? I am held here
against my will.
In the tense
psychological thriller of Steven
And reporting for duty, we talk
robots and rebellion in Pacific Rim
Plus, we'll also be going behind
the scenes with an immersive cinema
experience, as they take on cult
classic Blade Runner.
So, physics, insanity and lots
and lots of robots -
sounds like a good mix
for a Wednesday evening, eh?
Helping me make sense of it
all are film critics -
and definitely non replicants,
- Ellen E Jones and Empire
Magazine's Chris Hewitt.
Good evening, human! Definitely a
What is your replicant story?
deeply into my eyes. The Crown yes!
Right, kicking things off
is big-budget, time-travelling
fantasy 'A Wrinkle in Time'.
This much-loved children's classic -
well, in America, at least -
comes to the big screen
via Director Ava DuVernay.
Starring Oprah Winfrey -
yes, THE Oprah Winfrey -
Reese Witherspoon and Chris Pine,
it's the story of teenager Meg,
who has to brave multiple
dimensions, seemingly in the form
of Windows desktops,
in her quest to find her
missing scientist father.
Please be warned, this
VT contains algebra,
buckets of positivity
and a huge, floating Oprah!
You were a top student.
Look at you now. You can't keep
using your father's disappearance as
an excuse to act out.
Is that his work?
What is it about?
Their dad wanted to touch the stars.
We have a girl of colour at the
centre of this amazing universe and
this amazing journey. At the
beginning of the movie, Meg is
really hard on herself and she
doesn't feel like she is worthy
enough to be loved. Not coming back,
is he? Don't give up hope! She goes
on a hectic and tumultuous journey.
This is my favourite planet in the
The guys really help her with that.
Who are you?
We are warriors of the light. The
darkness is spreading so fast.
are stronger than I ever was!
Do you trust me?
you! During the movie, drew
encouragement from her friend, she
finds her flaws make her the most
powerful which is a great journey
for any teenage girl, for any woman
to watch to go through.
What can I
do for you, Mrs Whatsit.
You are six, what you know about
Have I ever been wrong?
One of these days, you might be
I doubt that, he is
one of the greatest minds in
history, he is prodigious. Of
course, we cannot take credit for
our talents, it is how we use them
I think it is a wonderful theme of
self belief in this movie about
learning to accept your fault.
We are in such warriors.
who serve the good and the light in
You are kidding?
This film allows a breather and a
moment to get job parings and think
about who you want to be in the
world and really interrogate the
light within new -- to get your
I am not really a person who has
read a lot of sci-fi and even this
book, it missed me growing up. So to
be a part of this literally
fantastical experience was something
I don't think any of us will ever
My Love is always there! Even if you
can't see it.
Do we have time for A Wrinkle in
Time? What did you think of it.
There is so much good feeling and
good intention kind this film that
it makes it all the more
disappointing that it is a
disappointment and I feel like I am
seeing the trailer for the first
You are not taken by a giant
flying cabbage Reese Witherspoon and
Oprah Winfrey that smiles down at
Oprah Winfrey is great, yes.
But no. I think Storm Reid is great,
but lead actress. And a couple of
moments, there is a real emotional
connection, that is her doing that.
She deserves credit for that.
That you put Oprah, who is not here
for a 30 foot tall Oprah? I was a
little disappointed when she became
normal sized and started interacting
with humans, I loved the idea of
being on a green screen on her own,
with her contract, nobody looks at
me, I will not interact with anyone.
It did give the impression they had
had her for a week and replaced into
the bids they shot.
Or they cut
clips from the Oprah Winfrey show.
The film is heavy on message and we
saw in the package they are keen on
is taking positivity from this. I
found it really sort of a soup of
platitudes. Never more than six foot
from a platitude in this movie. Did
it feel heavy-handed or did it work?
I think that is going to work for
the target audience. There is
definite total hippie nonsense in
there, but there is also quite nice
self-esteem stuff for that teenage
Really? One pitch of the
film is the father has gone missing,
a brilliant quantum physicist who
has picked universe and done his
homework so the messages, do your
homework and work hard and life
would you. The other messages, just
believe in yourself, man.
of undermining each other. Much of
bolts go and let your freak flag
fly, if I can say that. What got to
me, despite the self-help nonsense,
by the end, it is about a young girl
trying to get back with her father
and I won't spoil it but let's say
at the end, I could feel a single
wrinkle rolling down my cheek and it
got me. I was manipulated but I was
buying what they were selling by the
end of it.
What were they selling?
It was a mess. There is no
overriding vision of how this book
is translated to the screen so
bitterly, it looks crazy. And they
make up for that with CGI.
from windows desktop to another
windows desktop, they bear a
remarkable resemblance to the
options you have!
Not even the good
There is no one great
sequence, and will say that. There
is an interesting sequence where
they land on a planet and a 1950s
Stepford wives, out of the
housewives -- come out of the houses
and try to tempt them in for evil
means and it goes nowhere, it was
episodic. Good performances
commentary macro and Chris Pine is
very good. And it dirty but Oprah,
you cannot argue with that. And if I
was 12-13 years old, which I kind of
am! -- and a 30 foot Oprah.
If you're feeling in need
of a little darkness
after all that positivity,
fear not, we've got it covered.
'Unsane' is a tense
directed by Steven Soderbergh
and shot entirely on an iPhone.
Claire Foy - in her first
role post 'The Crown' -
stars as a woman detained
in a mental hospital
against her will.
So not unlike The Crown! See what I
So should she be in there,
or is something much
more sinister going on?
Is this a glorified
Please follow me.
I don't have a lot
of time, they should be back at
work. What am I doing here? Take
away your clothes down to your
underwear. Not sure what is
The door is locked.
It would be better for everyone,
especially yourself, if you do as I
I have always been a fan of
psychological thrillers. One thing I
really liked about the premise was
the plausibility of it. The fact
that somebody who has been in a
circumstance in which she would like
to get help, finds herself signing a
document that she probably didn't
read very closely. And before she
knows it, she is spending time in a
facility against her will.
There has been some kind of mistake.
Your name is Sawyer Valentini. You
know that already. By saying this,
you have consented a voluntary
commitment for 24 hours.
said the forms were routine.
signed it. One aspect of Clare as an
actress that I really thought was
appealing is this ability of hers to
really sell this idea of someone who
is under a lot of self-imposed
pressure and whether she is acting
out or whether this is something
that is being acted upon her.
Yes, hello, my name is Sawyer
Valentini. I am at Highland Creek
Behavioral Center and I am being
held here against my will. Please
send help! Thank you. I will be out
of here in, like, 20 minutes.
know how many calls the cuts get
like that every week?
Those are from
The willingness of
Claire to dive in and play a
somewhat unhinged American character
was part of what attracted me to her
as an actor.
My stalker is here! We did a
thorough background check.
should be protecting the!
We were shooting in sequence and she
understood the trajectory of what
Sawyer needed to go through.
be insane. I must be insane.
I am not crazy! Maybe it is all in
I loved this film. I enjoyed every
second. I am a big fan of Steven
Soderbergh, it is good to see him
back after his self enforced
retirement. Did you enjoy this film?
A fizzing with this movie. I did, I
am very glad he got back and he got
bored watching Countdown in front of
the TV in the afternoon. This is a
good follow-up to Logan Lucky. He's
trying different things by shooting
on the iPhone with this. I am a huge
fan of Soderbergh but he is a
slightly dispassionate and
emotionally detached film-maker at
times and I wonder if this means the
movie did not quite thrill me the
way it did you and maybe Ellen. But
a lesser Soderbergh is still better
than 95% of the lawmakers at the top
of their game.
Did you love this
film? I absolutely loved it and
despite how over the top it goes,
nothing wrong with over the top! It
still feels totally plausible. Some
people don't feel the same way. All
the stuff about having your autonomy
taken away by this basis institution
and that frustration goes really
well, there is sexual harassment
stuff you could if you are trying a
bit harder linked to #Me Too but I
am reluctant to do that because it
is such good fun.
Apart from mobile
phones, it does not feel
contemporary, it felt like a 1970s
film. Like play Misty for me, like
what Clint is stored made when he
was playing thrillers -- Clint
Eastwood. You could imagine him as
the antagonist and it is threadbare,
crumbling America that the hospital
seems to represent.
That took me out of the film a
little bit, because I'd get sound
quality like that on my iPhone, but
he got it right in to replace a film
camera can't go, it went right into
Claire Foy's face.
It is a double exposure.
It is good
stuff, and it has a little
professional sheen, but it did take
me out of the film a couple of
I went in not knowing about
the iPhone, and I did think it
looked interesting in a way I
couldn't put my finger on. I really
I thought it was medium
and message working together.
you get swept up in the excitement
of Steven Soderbergh bestie doing
something he is finding new and
He didn't get any text
messages during it!
And Claire Foy's
performance, I have watched The
Crown all the way through, I have
watched be very under control, very
close to performance she is the
Queen, and in this, the question in
the movie is, is she in a mental
institution for the right reason
not? She gives that performance.
is great for her, you couldn't have
a better film to do off the back of
something like The Crown.
feel she also look at the camera and
go, see what I can do? Am not just
the Queen! She won't be being paid
less than anybody else after this.
She is fantastic, she does just
enough to make you think that she
might be unhinged, that she might be
experiencing some psychosis, so that
when there is a twist, it has you on
delivered up with Steven Soderbergh
in a new form, everything to
For most of us, going to the cinema
lets us kick back, eat popcorn
and think about something
other than ourselves.
Who writes this stuff!
But with more and more
demands on our time when it
comes to entertainment,
are wanting more -
like being able to actually step
into the world of the film.
This year, 'Secret Cinema' -
one of the first live,
immersive film experiences -
is ten years old, and it
seems their formula of cult films,
dressing up and interacting
with the film is still going strong.
It was back in 1982...
Ridley Scott gave us his dark
dystopian vision of downtown Los
Angeles, with sci-fi epic Blade
Runner. But now, in old warehouse in
east London, that vision has been
brought to life as excited film fans
roll up for the latest immersive
movie experience. Secret Cinema is
really about creating a spectacle
around cinema, so infusing film and
art, allowing the audience to live
inside with it and become part of
the story. When I was a kid, I went
to see a film, Once Upon A Time In
America,, and I fell in love with
cinema, and I thought, why can't
Cinema be more like a club night,
like a music festival, and are used
to go to these clubs and I was
thought that the secrecy and getting
a call where you have to go and meet
people down the petrol station and
find these big parties, why couldn't
you make cinema more rock and roll?
What if you could tell a secret?
What if the audience could be part
of that secret and live inside of a
film for the night? But it is not
just secret Cinema, immersive film
experiences are big news across the
country, from Die-hard screenings to
classic singalong classics. But this
year, Secret Cinema takes on its
biggest project yet. What ridley
Scott did at that time was
unheard-of, it was epic and
colourful and an entire universe,
and what we have done is taken
inspiration from the film and built
a whole new interactive world.
We transformed a series of
warehouses into the city of LA, and
the audience is thrown into this
dystopian world of LA in 2019. They
have been told to meet at a
checkpoint in a district on the edge
of Chinatown, and told to bring
umbrellas and wear goggles because
of the fears of acid rain. We
literally write a script for a
thousand different audience members
and combine with the actors we have
on-site. There is a complete blur
between performers and audience. All
of our security guards, bar staff,
everybody was at rehearsals, the Riz
and a single person out of
character, and essentially we want
to make it feel like wherever you
look, wherever you go, there is some
part of the world that is coming to
life around you. I just think that
the world has got predictable. Film
is not the same as it used to be,
and this is cinema shakes you, and
that is why it is a testament to why
secret Cinema has grown into
something much bigger, is that
people are looking for this. Let's
take away the seats and reimagine
the space, let's think about the
audience being on the stitch. It is
a protest against the predictable
side of culture, the idea that we
can do anything we want.
OK, so we asked you on Twitter
what film you'd like to be immersed
into and live within.
Ross says, I will choose Working At
The Water Park.
The Water Park. Owen chose Fargo,
and Luke chose La La Land. You have
only got one life! Which film would
you like to live in, and why?
thinking Call Me By Your Name
because you have the endless
Mediterranean summer, you just have
to be careful not to eat peaches.
I couldn't possibly answer
Star Wars. The original one, and I
would probably live on Tatooine and
have a lightsabre.
Last up is 'Pacific Rim Uprising' -
the sequel to Guillermo del Toro's
2013 massive monster movie.
This time round, John Boyega is in
charge as both Producer and star.
It's all very simple -
ten years after the Battle
of the Breach, the Kaiju emerge
from their interdimensional portal,
forcing the Pan Pacific
Defense Corps, or PPDC,
to mount their huge
Jaeger robots once again.
Good, let's take a look.
Jake. Your father always said he
wanted you to be a pilot.
He said a lot of things. I'm not a
hero like he was. Pacific rim takes
off tenures after the first movie,
and we're introduced to Jake, who is
son of Idris Elba.
Did that haircut
just call you Pentecost?
just call you Pentecost?
It is just
A really cool name.
He is a
bit of a rogue, a bit rebellious.
Are you having a laugh? One thing
leads to another, and he is back the
PPDC, and now he needs to lead a new
generation of pilots.
With sci-fi, you want to balance the
CG world with the physical, you
don't want to do everything CG, so
we managed to build the heads of the
robots and place it on a hydraulic,
so it had the full movement of a
real head, and every time it got
knocked back, we would feel the G
Force. I also co-produced this one
with my company. I could have done a
13 hour day on which averages, come
back home, have to watch scenes of
myself and give opinions as to which
one works for what.
I love the action, I really do, but
story is what I also do, the story
we are trying to tell.
So, if I were ten-year-old boy, that
film would blow my mind. However,
I'm 49! What did we make of Pacific
John Boyega, isn't he
lovely? He is so good, his charisma
does so much of the heavy lifting of
this film, which is lucky, because
Scott Eastwood, maybe, not so
Steady now! John
Boyega, he is probably in seven
eighths of the movie, virtually
every frame. He is so charming and
charismatic, he is the special
effect that makes this film work
more than the giant robot.
love the older brother little sister
thing they have got going as well,
it has real heart.
It makes you
wonder why he wasn't used more in
the last Star Wars movie, because he
has charisma to burn. But I went
into this movie with expectations
that warm floor, I liked the first
movie, it did OK, and this did, I
wasn't expecting that much, and I
came out with a big smile on my
The prequel better than the
Now you are talking.
I hesitate to say it is better than
the first one, because the first one
dot -- Guillermo del Toro.
He is the
big director, and the aesthetic and
But that is what makes
this not Transformers. It is not
really that he is an action
director. There was a point in this
movie where I was going, get on with
it, where are the aliens? Loads of
heart, but more of that the stuff
that you go to this movie for.
like that stuff. You don't see an
alien for ages, the first big action
sequence you get is a giant robot.
Robot on robot action.
They are not
robots! They are men inside Suits.
just kind of love that stuff, there
is a sequence later on where a city
is being trashed, and it has an
No one seems to live
in the cities, nobody cares what
Sunday afternoon, no one is
around, don't worry! This is part of
a long line of movies where huge
cities are destroyed. There is a
line, which is, don't worry,
everyone is underground, you can go
to town on this.
It is gloriously
daft in a way that I don't think the
first movie quite got there. They
tried, but this is beautifully
silly, Saturday morning cartoon fun,
but just on the big screen.
way, we could talk about this in
contrast with the other big sci-fi
blockbuster of the season, and
Pacific Rim Uprising delivers an
story, delivers on its stick
together message that A Really Good
And it is quite china
matey, they have whole sequences in
Mandarin, that adds to that market.
And it doesn't have an ultimate
message of empowerment, it just
says, if you see a giant monster,
punch it in the face, and that is a
message I can get behind.
That is a
life lesson for everyone watching.
OK, so you know what's coming,
what's our Film of the Week?
That or uprising.
I think I
will choose Unsane.
Well, I think our work
is almost done here.
Next week, Zoe Ball -
who has just cycled over 350 miles
in five days for Sports Relief -
will be here on this
comfortable film show sofa.
I'd definitely bring a cushion.
Zoe, never agree to do that again!
Playing us out is a look at
the new mega offering from Marvel.
It's 'Avengers: Infinity War'.
Giving new meaning to the term
'all-star cast', the film
stars Robert Downey Jr,
Chris Hemsworth, Mark Ruffalo,
Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson,
Don Cheadle, Tom Holland,
Chadwick Boseman, Paul Bettany,
Elizabeth Olsen, Anthony Mackie,
Sebastian Stan, Chris Pratt,
Josh Brolin, Zoe Saldana
and Paul Rudd, amongst others.
That is one big trailer, eh?
We got one advantage. He is coming
We have what he wants, so
that's what we use.
Let's talk about this plan of yours.
I think it's good, except it sucks,
so let me do the plan, and that way,
it might be really good.
The end is near.
When I'm done, half of humanity will
Perfectly balanced. As all things
should be. I hope they remember you.
I'm Peter, by the way.