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I've always felt like an outsider. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:03 | |
And I'm drawn to outsiders, or people who find different paths, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
people who break the rules. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
Turner was an outsider, a maverick. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
He turned the art world upside down. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
He liberated it, even. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
They are calling this show Late Turner - Painting Set Free. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:25 | |
This is me, Benjamin Zephaniah and this is my private view of Turner. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:32 | |
I had heard the name Turner when I was a kid. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
But I thought he was one of those kind of dead white | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
British artists that really don't say anything to me. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
And then I remember when I was a young Rastafarian, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
I was really angry at the world, and this friend said, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
"You have got to check out this painting by Turner." | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
It's a slave ship off the coast of Jamaica. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
Probably not far from where my family come from. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
The captain has worked out that it is more financially rewarding | 0:01:10 | 0:01:17 | |
if he throws the live slaves into the sea rather than landing with them. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:23 | |
But it's not in this exhibition. It's not here! | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
Fortunately, it's in the catalogue. So I can look at it now. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
But you can see the bodies of these Africans | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
and they are drowning | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
in their chains. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
But actually, what really strikes me is the amount of blood. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
It seems that there is blood in the sky. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
I mean, it is kind of almost impossible for us to imagine. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Turner wrote a poem. There is a bit here which I will read from it. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
"Aloft all hands, strike the topmast and belay | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
"Yon angry setting sun And fierce-edged clouds | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
"Declare the Typhoon is coming | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
"Before it sweeps your decks, throw overboard | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
"The dead and dying, ne'er heed their chains | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
"Hope, Hope, fallacious Hope - | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
"Where is thy market now?" | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
It's...probably the one that's most connected to me, personally. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
So...thank you, Mr Turner. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
Fire! | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
So here we have it. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
I mean, it's amazing. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Yeah. When I see paintings like this, I think... | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
"What would Turner be doing now?" | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
If you think about the riots | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
that happened in our streets not so long ago, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
he probably would have come out, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
he probably would have borne witness to it and painted it. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
Sat there with his brush and painted it. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
He was a chronicler, if you like. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
He liked to bear witness. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
This is a terrible, dreadful moment. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
But you also have | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
a lot of...detail. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
One wonders, these people who were watching from the sidelines, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
some of them are looking towards the fire, but there are a couple here | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
that are looking towards us as if saying, "Come and have a look!" | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
But this is, to me, this is a little bit revolutionary. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
To see the Houses of Parliament burning down and then you come | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
and paint it, I mean... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
# Babylon is burning Babylon is burning | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
# With anxiety... # | 0:04:12 | 0:04:13 | |
Burn, Babylon, burn. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
It's like the system is being burnt. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
But what do we replace it with? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
Another system. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
I am seasick! | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Wow! This is... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
This is all over the place. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
It is obviously a ship in a storm, but... | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
I just can't tell which way the wind is blowing, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
it is just all over the place. It's, er... | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
It's kind of crazy, but it's very, very beautifully crazy. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:51 | |
I kind of think that he just carries on, if you take the frame away, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
it will just carry on all over the place. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
From what I understand, at this time, paintings were precise. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
You knew what they were. There was a kind of standard. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Turner kind of throws this all upside down. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
He has looked at all his contemporaries, all the artists | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
around at the time and said, "I won't do what you do. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
"I want to do what I do. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
"I want to do what's in my head and never mind the rule book. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
"You come along and you move forward and be true to yourself." | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
This is true. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:26 | |
I have family in Jamaica who work on the sea and they have told me | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
they have been in storms sometimes. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
They say they don't know what hit them, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
they looked up and there wasn't sky | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
because they were upside down, and all that kind of stuff. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
So, it's a world that I don't know... | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
It's a world that I fear. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
And maybe that's because...I can't swim! | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
Turner tells a story that he was actually tied to this mast | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
as the storm was raging about him. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Now most people don't believe that - | 0:06:01 | 0:06:02 | |
apparently people have checked his diary, his appointments. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
He is probably having a meeting with his agent. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
He wasn't there. But that's not the point, actually. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
I guess, like a poet or writer, your job is to use your imagination, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
to take your imagination there. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
Turner might not be there, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
but his imagination is right up there. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Ah... | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
Regulus. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:38 | |
Now, this is interesting because this is one of those paintings | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
I have seen in books. I saw it in a catalogue. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
But to be standing in front of it, it really is bright. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
He really is trying to tell us something... | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
..about the power of the sun. Look at it. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Whoo! | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
Lights up the river. Whoo! Out. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Apparently, there is some story - | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
Regulus was a Roman consul that was captured by the Carthaginians. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
They took off his eyelids so that the sun burnt his eyes and blinded him. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:21 | |
We, the people looking at the painting, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
stand in place of Regulus. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
We are blinded by the light. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
Sounds like a pop song, doesn't it? | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
And maybe... | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
Maybe Turner is actually Regulus? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Because Turner started to have eye problems, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
in fact he started to have cataracts. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
And he loved the sun. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
It is like some people who are kind of creative get a drug. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
Sometimes it is an artificial drug. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
I can't work without doing martial arts | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
or t'ai chi or some deep breathing, some deep meditation. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
I am kind of addicted to breathing. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Well, Turner probably was addicted to the sun. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
He kept staring into the sun. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
So, maybe this is Turner kind of thinking about himself | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
and thinking about his relationship with the sun. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
And what it is doing to him. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
Then looking back at the story and thinking... | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
"My eyes are being burned. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
"I, too, am blinded by the light." | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
There is this great story about a woman who is sitting on a train | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
and a man in front of her, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
this well-behaved, well-dressed gentleman, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
for some reason jumps up, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
puts his head out of the train as it's going at speed | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
for almost ten minutes and then he sits down, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
closes his eyes for 15 minutes and just sits back. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
And she thinks, "Let me have a go at it." | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
She puts her head out of the window, kind of gets a bit blown away, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
and a bit wet, sits down and falls asleep. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Couple of months later, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
she is at an exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
and she sees this painting and then she realises that the person, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
that man who sat in front of her, was Turner. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
I wonder if...what the dancing maiden signifies? | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
They pass with the boat as well. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
It is like somebody doing analogue and this is digital. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
Know what I mean? That is the past, this is the future. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
And the way he has painted it, you can feel the movement. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
It's speed. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
It's speed captured. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
Somehow. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
It's as if the train is just going to go "Whoosh!" | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
This is just the moment before it goes. And look at this. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
It's a little hare. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
Or is it a rabbit? | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
I can never really tell the difference. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
But it's racing down the track, as they do sometimes. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
It could be symbolic. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
A race between nature and modernity. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:18 | |
Who's going to win? | 0:10:18 | 0:10:19 | |
Listen, little hare. It doesn't matter if you win or lose, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
make sure you get off the track, cos that train will run you over. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
Well, this is Turner being very political. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
That's what I would call it. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
Others would call it social commentary. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
I guess it's both. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:44 | |
This is based on a story, or the true happening, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
of a British ship that was taking women convicts to Australia. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:53 | |
And the ship got in trouble just off the French coast, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
and the French offered help, but the captain refused the help, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
and so...allowed them to die. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
You can see the women clinging to each other, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
clinging onto their babies. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:10 | |
The ship in the background going down. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
This is about saying to that captain and the powers that be | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
that this should not happen. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:21 | |
I could imagine at the time he was painting this he was really angry. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
There's a kind of...violence in the in the way that it's painted. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
I suspect that he probably was lashing with his brush a bit. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
I don't feel you could paint this painting sitting down and... | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
..doing it gently. This has to come from emotion. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
This has to come from somewhere deep. This painting... | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
..was never exhibited in his lifetime. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
But it's exhibited now. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
For those who cared about these things, who want to look back. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
Here you have a great travesty recorded. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Forever, hopefully. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
Now, who would have guessed it? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
I mean, just look at this painting. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
There's nothing here that's really solid. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
Here, the sun is the subject, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
and although the sun is the subject, look at the sun. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
It's just a little blob down there on the left-hand side of the painting. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
It is a rather weird sun, though, I must say. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
You see, I would get the brush and make the sun perfectly round, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:57 | |
cos I know that the sun is perfectly round. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
But Turner's not like that. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
It seems to me that one of things he did very beautifully | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
was break the rules, was kind of make his own path in the art world. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:12 | |
He was kind of the anti-artist artist if you like. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
When some of the critics saw this painting, they said he was going mad, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
he was senile, he was losing it, he was off his rocker. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
It was just... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
"Not worthy of review" or whatever. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
But there's others who thought that he'd been very futuristic. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
It was abstract before abstract. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
He was like the first Impressionist before Impressionism. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
I just can't get over that sun. It's so cute. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
I never thought I'd say that the sun is cute. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
It's lot of things, but I didn't think I'd ever say it was cute. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
But there you go. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:55 | |
I've been sitting here looking at this painting for a long time. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
You see, it's called The Parting of Hero and Leander. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
Is this them having a parting kiss? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
And are these kind of angels watching them or whatever? But... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
..to be honest, that stuff doesn't really interest me | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
when it comes to this painting. It's just a beautiful painting. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
In a way, it could be Turner just showing off. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
But poets do that. Not all poems are about things. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
Not all poems are about happenings. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Not all poems are about emotions and stuff like that. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Sometimes a poet just does word play for the sake of it. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
And here, Turner might be just painting a beautiful painting, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:58 | |
which is loosely based on a story. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
But he's not necessarily trying to tell us anything. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
It doesn't really tell me anything, but it tells me that the guy | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
is a damn good painter. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
He has the sun and the moon in the same sky. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
It's like what happens in Lincolnshire every now and again. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
It's just a beautiful painting. Art for art's sake, if you like. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
It's beautiful. So back off, Benjamin. Sit down... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
..and enjoy it. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
So look at this work of art. It's called Peace - Burial at Sea. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
Turner painted this because one of his friends died at sea | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
and was buried at sea. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Quite a mournful picture, really, although we have fire again | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
and we have more light. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
But the ship itself is... | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
..the colour of mourning, black. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:08 | |
In fact, somebody complained when he painted this | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
and they said that the sails of the ship were too dark, too black. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:20 | |
And Turner said he wished he could've made them blacker. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
One of the things I notice is... | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Here we have this burial, but there's this bird... | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
..just flying low above the water. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
One has to wonder whether Turner is also thinking about his mortality. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:44 | |
And there's going to be a day... | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
..when the painting stops. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
But even after the painting stops... | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
..the birds keep flying around. | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
And the sun rises once more. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
But don't get too depressed, you know. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Better must come. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
The thing about this painting is that it's a great time of the day | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
to go out there breathe deeply. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
I play t'ai chi, and if you know anything about t'ai chi, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
we believe that in the night, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
all the chi settles in the trees and in the atmosphere, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
so if we go out at sunrise, we can breathe in the chi. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
We kind of use it for our energy. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
So we breathe in...breathe out. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
We breathe in...we breathe out. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
And we get the energy from the atmosphere. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
That's what I feel when I look at this. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
I feel like I want to play t'ai chi, I want to breathe, I want to live. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
This was later on in his life. It was actually not long before he died. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:20 | |
So he probably didn't have to prove anymore that he could paint castles. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
So he just kind of leaves the castle floating in the air. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
What stands out is the sun. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
The sun shining through at the centre of the painting. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
There's this story. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
It's December, it's dreary, outside it's cloudy. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
Turner is laying in bed very, very ill. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
Suddenly, the sun shines through. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
It shines onto his face and it lights him up, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
as if to just kind of illuminate him and breathe life into him. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
But one hour later...he passed away. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
It's a bit like before somebody dies and they have a burst of life. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
Well, he had a burst of light. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
Yeah. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
Breathe. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
It's morning. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
Now, look at this. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:30 | |
This is a weird, very, very weirdy Victorian thing that they used to do. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:39 | |
I've seen a couple of these - death masks. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Just after the person's died, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
somebody comes along and makes a mask of them. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Well, I've come to the end of my journey around this exhibition, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
and I'm not sure how I feel coming face to face, as it was, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:59 | |
with the creator of these great works of art. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
I know you're not really here, old man, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
I know you're somewhere else, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
but I just wanted to say thanks for the paintings | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
and thanks for that stuff you did against slavery. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
You've got a good heart, my brother. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
Wherever you are, man, just keep it real. You get me? | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
Safe. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 |