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Hello, and welcome to a brand-new series of The Arts Show for 2014. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:14 | |
And we kick things off here in Parliament Buildings, Stormont, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
where I'll be talking to the key decision-maker | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
at the heart of arts and culture in Northern Ireland. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
So, we're at the beginning of a brand-new year for the arts, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
and there's a lot to get through on tonight's show. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
Here's what's coming up. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
The Minister For Culture, Arts And Leisure, Caral Ni Chuilin, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
shares her vision for the coming year. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Robert Burns, Scotland's national poet and literary lothario - | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
we investigate. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Exciting new Londonderry band The Clameens | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
make their BBC TV debut. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
And we hear from some of our arts practitioners | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
who to watch out for in 2014. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
My big one-to-watch for 2014 has got to be Ballet School. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
It's Ros Blair, originally from Antrim, now based in Berlin. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
She's working with the Bella Union label, hugely influential, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
already got one single under her belt, more to come this year. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
I think it's a guaranteed winner. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
# And the friends who we make | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
# Are the stones that we lay. # | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
As well as that, keep an eye on Verse Chorus Verse, and Arborist, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
two singer-songwriters with music in the pipeline | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
that is going to blow some people's minds. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
In the world of craft, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
my one-to-watch for 2014 is Alison Lowry, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
a Belfast-based glass-maker. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
She's a recent graduate from the University of Ulster | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
and she's had some very good international | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
and national success already, including Shanghai and London. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
And she's just been selected for a residency for one month | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
in the prestigious Corning Museum Of Glass | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
in New York State. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
For me, this year, it's Claire McGowan. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
One of that new breed of writers from the North of Ireland | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
and, most importantly, writing from the feminist perspective. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
Her new novel, The Lost, takes us on a journey with Paula Maguire, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
a forensic psychologist, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
as she investigates crime in current-day Northern Ireland, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
but has strong links to the past. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
Ken Bruen says she is Ireland's answer to Ruth Rendell. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
Of all the plays written about life in Ireland, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
few have put as many bums on seats on both sides of the Atlantic | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
as The Colleen Bawn. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Written in the mid-19th century by Dubliner Dion Boucicault, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
it's rumoured that even Queen Victoria | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
went to see it several times. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
Now, leading contemporary Irish theatre company Druid | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
is bringing it here to the Grand Opera House in Belfast next week. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
But what is the secret of this play's enduring appeal? | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
Eithne Shortall finds out. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
The Colleen Bawn is about people in a mess. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
Eily O'Connor, a beautiful young woman from a humble background, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
secretly marries Hardress Cregan, a wealthy landowner. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
But his family is facing financial ruin, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
and his mother has fixed him up with a local rich girl. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
There are many more twists to this story, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
but suffice to say that the stage is set | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
for love, betrayal, social embarrassment, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
and maybe even murder. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Melodrama doesn't get any more, well, melodramatic, than this. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
It's a very boisterous, intense world. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
It has a convoluted plot, a use of spectacle. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
One moment you can be laughing, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
the next moment, you're hopefully crying. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
It would be the equivalent of a television soap opera today. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
It's a story about people you can care about. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
And lots of fun as well. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
It was only a shower, I believe. Are you wet, ma'am? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Dry as a biscuit. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
Ah. Then it's yourself is the brave and beautiful lady, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
as bold and proud as a ship before the blast. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
'But The Colleen Bawn is always going to be a leap of faith | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
'for a director today.' | 0:04:17 | 0:04:18 | |
There's my mare! And who comes with? | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
It's Mr Hardress Cregan himself. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
Are there certain elements of the play | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
that you've had to push to the fore | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
to make sure it works for a contemporary audience? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
The obviousness of the drama, i.e. the melodrama, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
appears so out of... | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
sync with the kind of nuanced | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
sort of interior drama | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
of the 20th/21st century. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
'But the fact is that if you then commit to | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
'telling the story in as truthful a way as you can, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
'it actually takes care of itself very well.' | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
-I'm yours. -Anne, you don't know all. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
I know more than I wanted, that is enough. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
This certainly says a lot | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
for the man who wrote it a century and a half ago. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
If you put it in terms of its time, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Boucicault was a rock star. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
The Colleen Bawn occurs at a real peak of Boucicault's career. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
It ran for nearly 280 performances. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
It made Boucicault a fortune. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
But Boucicault's biggest success was putting Ireland on stage. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
He said, "I have written the first national drama set in Ireland. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
"I have written the first Irish drama." | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
He was very proud of himself. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
Yet, Boucicault was living in New York | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
when he came across the true story | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
of the murder of 15-year-old Ellen Scanlan | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
in Clare in 1819. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
He immediately knew that if he changed the tragic outcome, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
this story could be a hit with Irish Americans, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
desperate for a glimpse of the old country. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
When The Colleen Bawn was first staged, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
was it portraying a certain image of Ireland to foreign audiences? | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
Boucicault is presenting an image of Ireland as charming, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
as rustic, as romantic, and as appealing. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
It may seem, from our perspective of the 21st century, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
to be stereotypical and almost racist, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
but it's more than that, because what... | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
Boucicault's trying to do | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
is create, at the time, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
quite a modern take on the complicated relationship | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
between the different social classes in Ireland. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Cos that's certainly how the Irish audience | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
and critics at the time saw it. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
-My name is Anne Chute. -I am Eily O'Connor. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
You are the Colleen Bawn - the pretty girl. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
And you are the Colleen Ruaidh. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
She is beautiful. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
How lovely she is. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
-We are rivals. -I am sorry for it. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Like all melodrama, The Colleen Bawn | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
isn't really about the psychology of the individual characters, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
but about their place in society. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
In this production, the set and costumes | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
neatly define the twin worlds of landlords and peasants, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
chandeliers and shillelaghs. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
Everybody is deformed by the colonising process. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
So there's an unnaturalness about it as a way of living. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
Boucicault caught that quite well. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
All art creates fictions. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
But there are fictions that, in some way, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
help us understand ourselves better. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
So, surely stereotypes don't get more obvious | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
than a poteen-drinking tramp? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
Now I'll go up to my whiskey-still. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
It is above my head this minute, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:31 | |
being in a hole in the rocks they call O'Donoghue's Stables. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
A sort of a water cave. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
The people round here think that the cave is haunted with bad spirits, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
and they say that of a dark, stormy night, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
strange unearthly noises is heard coming out of it. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
It is me singing The Night Before Larry Was Stretched. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
'However, Boucicault created Myles na Coppaleen | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
'as full of wit rather than drink, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
'and subverted that prevailing view of the Irish.' | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
He took what appeared to be stage Irishness, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
and turned it into a weapon. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
So that the most obviously stage-Irish character on stage, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
who's Myles na Coppaleen, is in fact cleverer | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
than anybody else on that stage. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
Here's the taste of a letter I was asked to give Your Honour. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
'No-one ever mentions home rule. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
'And the Anglo-Irish and peasants accommodate each other. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
'It's a reassuring world, painted in broad brush strokes, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
'and this demands a broad style of acting too.' | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
He didn't, no, I am his wife. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Oh, what have I said? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
-What? -I didn't mean to confess it - no, I didn't. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
But you wrung it from me in defence of him. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
You're his wife? | 0:08:42 | 0:08:43 | |
-They're at it and I'm too late. -I can't believe it. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
Show me your certificate. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:48 | |
'One of the things we all know we did, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
'and the actors and everything, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
'we would sit down and say we're subtexting this too much, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
'and playing the implications of the scene, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
'or the psychology of the scene.' | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
But in order to move the play through its various scenes, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
you have to play the action of the piece. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
OK, so it's not one of those plays that you go to | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
looking for what they really mean in what characters are saying. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Well, the play won't let you. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
I'm not going to give the ending away, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
but let's just say Boucicault is a master | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
when it comes to sorting out a mess, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
and getting the audience to buy into it. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
It plays on the emotions of its audience, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
and it's actually quite amazing | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
to see audiences react | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
in standard and stereotypical fashion, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
so we are getting "oohs" and "aahs" and intakes of breath | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
at turns of the plot which seem, on the face of it, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
to be tremendously obvious. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
All I ask is that you never mention this visit to Mr Daly. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
As for you, this should purchase your silence. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
Life to you! | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
HORSE NEIGHS | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
The Colleen Bawn is not the literary theatre of Yeats, or indeed Synge, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
it's not a play that poses questions, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
but it does provide answers | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
that make sense at a gut level. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
After a century and a half, surely this is the key to its success. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
One artist I'm looking forward to seeing more of in 2014 | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
is Cian Donnelly. He's a performance artist, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
and in the last couple of years he's had shows in Belfast and in Derry, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
which have really developed his work. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
The performances are challenging, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
thought-provoking, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
disturbing, sometimes, but always really engaging | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
and they make you think. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
Another artist I'm looking forward to seeing this year is Gerard Carson, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
a younger artist who works with small, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
delicate, intricate sculptures, paintings and drawings, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
which have fields of colour, delicate lines - | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
really beautiful work. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
I think Emma Logue is really interesting this year. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
She is a Northern Ireland girl, based in London, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
not formally trained in fashion design, | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
and has created these most stylish corporate-wear fashions | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
for women in the financial sector and women in business. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
I think she's hit the nail on the head | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
for what people want in the fashion world this season. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
The voice to listen out for this year is Newry baritone Ben McAteer. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
Ben's been completing his training in London at the National Opera Studio. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
He's a fantastic young singer. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
Big guy. Big, wonderfully resonant voice - really knows how to use it. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
This guy could go all the way. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
See him in May at the Ulster Hall at a lunch-time recital. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
Now, the Minister of the Department Of Culture, Arts And Leisure, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
Caral Ni Chuilin, has been in post here for nearly three years now. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
After an amazing year for Derry-Londonderry, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
we wondered what her strategy for 2014 holds for | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
the rest of Northern Ireland? | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
I met her here at Stormont to discuss. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
Happy New Year to you, as well. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
You've been in the post since May 2011. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
Was it a baptism of fire, taking on that post? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
It was, absolutely. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
And I still enjoy the view | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
that I have the best portfolio in the Executive. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
But not everyone shares that view, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
so, particularly around budgets, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
I have to fight my corner. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:25 | |
How do you fight your corner then? How do you say arts is important? | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
-I have a basket full of arguments that I regularly use. -Like what? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
Well, I mean, if we look, for example, at the City Of Culture | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
and the experience from it, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
and the economy for the northwest | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
has certainly received a boost as a result of it. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Aspirations have been raised. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
People, if they didn't already know, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
certainly know now that there's money to made in the arts - | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
at a very, very crude level. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
So, is that how you argue then? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
-The success of a theatre show, or a ballet or..? -Absolutely. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
Absolutely. But, I mean, when we talk about the economy, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
we need to include arts in it. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
And I think the argument thus far... | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
When I came into the department, it wasn't there. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
To be frank, it wasn't there. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
I think we have a brilliant and thriving sector here. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
And we need to make sure that there's a constant stream | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
and a seamless link from school until college, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
or even until whatever...vocation people decide to choose, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
and to make sure that people see it as a good career path. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
Do you think that confidence that you're talking about | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
has been demonstrated through.... | 0:13:33 | 0:13:34 | |
We've just recently left the Year Of Culture in Derry-Londonderry. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
Did you see a change in the dynamic of that city over the last year? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
Certainly, the creativity and the vibe around arts and culture | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
was a real strong pulse in the city. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
I recognised that going into it. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
I went up with an open mind, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
and I got sucked in. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
I got sucked in big-time, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
and I think we need to learn from Derry. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
Well, you've obviously put your money where your mouth is | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
and invested more money | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
into some form of legacy to continue into 2014. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
Recently, on the news, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
there has been the protests outside the Ebrington buildings, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
1881, to keep that open. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
-Should Derry aspire to have a municipal gallery? -Of course. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
And I'm currently scoping out the Shirt Factory in Rosemount. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
What about the fact that those two buildings | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
are already match-fit for contemporary art? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
I understand that. But they're not in my department | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
and I'm not waiting on an argument getting sorted - | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
I'm scoping out, not just about a gallery space, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
but an exhibition space. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:47 | |
So, you're looking at another shirt factory, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
not the one on Patrick Street? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
Well, I'm looking at... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:53 | |
Cos that's already been made match-fit, as well. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
At the minute, I'm scoping out space, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
and what I'll do is I'll look at options and then make a decision. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
Some people might say, "Could you ever just leave Derry to one side? | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
"They've had their year in the sun, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
"Belfast has also had a lot of investment. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
"I'm sitting here in Cookstown..." Other parts, I mean, Fermanagh. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
-Are you going to look at the whole of Northern Ireland? -I have been. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
And recently I was in Newry, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
working with Sticky Fingers, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
a children's arts programme. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
And Newry are quite angry, because they don't feel | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
they've got their fair share, as does Fermanagh, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
as does East Tyrone, West Tyrone. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
As does parts of Down, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
as are parts of Belfast. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
Because there's still an argument in Belfast, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
all the investment goes to east and south and the city centre, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
north and west are by and large overlooked. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
And I have no issue with that, I think people have a right to demand, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
and not just demand, but to expect services. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
It shouldn't be access to services or arts by postcode. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
But I haven't got enough money, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
so I need to prioritise | 0:15:52 | 0:15:53 | |
and what I've done to that end | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
is look at a business plan that does look at social inclusion, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
that does look at tackling poverty, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
that does look at enhancing what we can do collectively. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
And I'm asking people to come up with, I suppose, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
a product that meets that | 0:16:07 | 0:16:08 | |
and, if it does, I would certainly find the money. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
With the recent Haass talks, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
culture became almost a divisive issue. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
How can arts and culture here bring people together? | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
What would be your aspiration as the Culture Minister? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
I don't mind about a controversy around arts, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
because I think it's good. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
And I would like to have a debate around | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
the importance of culture and arts in our community and our society. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
I'd like people to have a debate | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
about how they can access those services | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
and that experience a lot better. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
I just think that at times people feel that the arts has been hijacked, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:45 | |
it's become elite. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
I don't accept that. I know the arts providers don't accept that, either. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
I know some of the arts providers I work with, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
particularly around the Christmas period, in Belfast, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
went out of their way | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
to make sure that people came to the exhibitions and shows. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
We provided additional money for tickets | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
to help people who really couldn't afford, in the month of Christmas, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
to go to arts, or people who felt it wasn't for them. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
It's difficult though if somebody's going to leave a bomb in a holdall | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
outside the MAC when you're bringing your kids to see a Christmas show. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
It's hugely difficult. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
They're a minority of people who don't have the support of people, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
and arts do what they did best, they just got on with it. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
You know, you love the learning of the Irish language, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
and the Feile and the Irish music, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
what else fires you? | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
What do you do when you do have spare time? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
I put my MP3 player on. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
And I have a real range of taste of music | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
that goes from Led Zeppelin to Bach. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
If it's not too late, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:47 | |
I put the music on really loud and I'll chill. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
By and large, I normally turn the TV off, I'm a big radio fan. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
I went in to see the Ulster Orchestra one time in Ulster Hall, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
and it was amazing. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
It was brilliant, and I went in kind of thinking, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
"I'll have to go and see one of these, because I haven't been yet." | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Do you know, almost as a duty? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
And I was hooked. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
I haven't really been to a lot of plays. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
And it's not because I don't like them, it is just about time. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
But I think I'm really lucky enough | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
to be looking at the things, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:18 | |
rather than looking for the things. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Minister, thank you very much | 0:18:20 | 0:18:21 | |
-for your time. -Thank you. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
My picks for 2014, Maiden Voyage Dance Company premiere a new piece | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
by Spanish choreographer Enrique Cabrera | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
at the Belfast Children's Festival in March. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Then, in autumn, they're undertaking an exciting project | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
with Liz Roche's dance company from Dublin. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
On the touring circuit, we have Swan Lake coming to the Opera House | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
and Phoenix Dance Company present a mixed bill | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
at the Theatre In The Mill in Newtownabbey. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
And world-renowned choreographer Jiri Kylian presents | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
a new Beckett-inspired production, East Shadow, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
at the Happy Days International Festival in Enniskillen. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Young performers to keep an eye on in 2014 for me | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
would be Turlough Convery, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
graduated from Guildford last year, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
straight into the West End | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
and won the Stephen Sondheim Vocal Award | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
for the whole of the UK. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
And Mairead Carlen, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
who's just been snapped up by Celtic Woman in the States | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
for one of four to tour. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
The 25th of January celebrates the birth of Scotland's greatest poet, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
Robert, or Rabbie, Burns. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
Northern Ireland has a strong connection with him. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
He used to write to the Belfast Newsletter | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
long before he was published in book form, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
and they printed his original work. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Original copies are held here at the Linen Hall Library in Belfast, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
which boasts the largest repository of Burns material | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
outside of Scotland, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
some of which is currently on display. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
But Rabbie Burns was as prolific in his love life | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
as he was in his writing. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
The Arts Show goes under the tartan to find out more. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
# Ae fond kiss | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
# And then we sever... # | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Ae fond kiss, and then we sever | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
Ae fareweel, and then for ever! | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Deep in heart-wrung tears I'll pledge thee | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
Warring sighs and groans I'll wage thee. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
He stands proudly in line | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
among a long list of literary bad boys. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Behan and Bukowski liked to drink | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
but, like Lord Byron, Robert Burns loved the lassies. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
A celebrity poet in his own short lifetime, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Robert Burns remains today | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
an international superstar. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Having penned such world music favourites as Ae Fond Kiss, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
Auld Lang Syne, and the Red Rose. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
# My love is like a red, red rose... # | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
Who shall say that fortune grieves him, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
While the star of hope she leaves him? | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
Me, nae cheerful twinkle lights me | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Dark despair around benights me. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Burns can be said, with straight face, to be the nearest thing | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
that Scotland has to a Lennon or McCartney. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
I'll ne'er blame my partial fancy | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
Naething could resist my Nancy | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
But to see her was to love her | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
But to love her and love for ever. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
But alongside the tenderness and the careful craftsmanship, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
he was also a master of in-your-face bawdry. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Lyrics fired by a machismo | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
that might put a modern-day gangsta rapper to shame. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
Songs such as The Fornicator or Nine Inch Will Please A Lady | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
show a peculiar pride in his performance and endowments. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
If he had been around today, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
Robbie may well have featured on the front pages of the red-top tabloids - | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
a serial love rat, a father of love children | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
all the way from the Highlands to high society in Edinburgh. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
Had we never lov'd sae kindly | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Had we never lov'd sae blindly. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
Never met or never parted | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
We would ne'er been broken-hearted. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Robbie was a prolific lover, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
with at least 13 pregnancies bestowed upon at least five women. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
Fare-thee-weel, thou first and fairest! | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
Fare-thee-weel, thou best and dearest! | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Thine be ilka joy and treasure | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
Peace, enjoyment, love and pleasure! | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
Burns was a prodigious talent, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
he has a back catalogue of some 400 songs and some 200 poems - | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
translated eventually into over 40 languages. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
In fact, Burns' texts have appeared in every major anthology | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
that has attempted the complete survey of poetry in English | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
since the early 19th century. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Ae fond kiss, and then we sever! | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Ae fareweel alas, for ever! | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
Deep in heart-wrung tears I'll pledge thee | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
Warring sighs and groans I'll wage thee. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
And before you get the idea that Robbie was just a heartless womaniser | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
without a conscience, a brute who loved and left, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
there is more evidence of his sensitive soul. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
In A Poet's Welcome To His Love-Begotten Daughter, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
he embraces in rhyme his newborn, illegitimate daughter | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
in the face of his public censure by the Kirk. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Here though is a clue to an attitude which, if not exactly feminist, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
points to the fact that he believes women are as intelligent as men. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
Burns had several correspondents who were aristocratic ladies, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
women upon whom he could try out his ideas, his work too. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
His homely Scots dialect and plain-spokenness appealed | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
to the masses in Scotland and also in Ulster - | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
prone as so many of these people were to be politically critical | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
of their supposed masters and betters. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
His support for the French Revolution, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
his ability to poke the finger of fun at religious hypocrisy, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
his appetite for life, and the ladies, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
meant that he wasn't everyone's cup of tea back then. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
I'm sitting at the heart of the very cottage where Robbie was born. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
And, in the 250th anniversary of his birth, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
an estimated 90 million fans | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
celebrated Burns Night across the globe. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
I think Robbie would have settled for that. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
Lock up your great-granddaughters! | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Well, that's it from The Arts Show for tonight. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Join me live on Twitter now. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
And just to say many congratulations to Sinead Morrissey | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
who has won the TS Eliot Prize for poetry. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
You can keep up-to-date with arts and culture | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
on BBC Radio Ulster's Arts Extra, weeknights at 6:30pm. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
But we leave you with one of the most exciting local music acts | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
of 2014 - The Clameens, from Derry. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
In honour of Burns, we asked them to reinterpret the Burns classic | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
My Luve Is Like A Red, Red Rose. Good night. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
# O my Luve is like a red, red rose | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
# That's newly sprung in June | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
# O my Luve is like a melodie | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
# That's sweetly played in tune | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
# As fair art thou, my bonnie lass | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
# So deep in luve am I | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
# And I will luve thee still, my dear | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
# Till the seas a' gang dry | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
# Till the seas gang dry, my dear | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
# Till the seas gang dry | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
# Till the seas gang dry, my dear | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
# Till the seas gang dry | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
# Till the seas gang dry, my dear | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
# And the rocks melt wi' the sun | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
# And I will luve thee still, my dear | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
# While the sands of life shall run | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
# Fare thee well, my only Luve | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
# Fare thee well, a while | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
# And I will come again, my Luve | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
# Tho' ten thousand mile | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
# Till the seas gang dry, my dear | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
# Till the seas gang dry | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
# Till the seas gang dry, my dear | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
# Till the seas gang dry | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
# O my Luve is like a red, red rose | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
# That's newly sprung in June | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
# Till the seas gang dry, my dear | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
# Till the seas gang dry | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
# Till the seas gang dry, my dear | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
# Till the seas gang dry. # | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 |