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Hello and welcome to another Arts Show, our monthly guide to

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what's being made, seen and talked about in arts and entertainment.

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We've a packed show, here's what's coming up.

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Cyprus Avenue is the new shockingly violent

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black comedy from playwright David Ireland.

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Starring Stephen Rea as a disaffected Loyalist,

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it has just opened at Dublin's Abbey Theatre.

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The Arts Show was there.

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His debut feature film, The Survivalist,

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was nominated for a BAFTA.

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We talk to its writer and director, local man Stephen Fingleton.

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The world as we rarely see it.

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We visit an exhibition of extraordinary scientific

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images as art in Derry/Londonderry.

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And there's live jazz from the MAC Theatre's current

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Artist in Residence, David Lyttle.

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I'm tweeting now...

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But first, Secretary of State Theresa Villiers said earlier

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this month that she believes that we are closer than ever before

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to finding a way forward in dealing with our troubled past.

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So it seems timely that today sees the cinema release

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of The Truth Commissioner based on David Park's 2008

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political thriller, which sees a fictional body set up here

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based on the South African Truth and Reconciliation model.

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The coming months will tell

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whether Northern Ireland is ready to face the truth about its past

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or whether the past is too present to contemplate.

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The film will be broadcast on BBC One Northern Ireland next month.

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We sent three commentators to review and discuss

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whether such a commission could really happen here.

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No-one's asking anyone to forget.

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We try to get at the truth.

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After that, people make up their own minds, make their own futures,

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hopefully for the better.

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Well, I suppose what I was looking at it from

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my reporting perspective.

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What interested me most in the film

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were the plays offstage, if you like.

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The big efforts to conceal truth.

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Even when people think they have truth, they haven't.

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I started watching it thinking, you know, this is a bit far-fetched.

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You know? Where are we going here?

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But I have to say that it certainly was compulsive viewing.

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I had to watch it to the end.

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As far as the whole issue of truth, et cetera,

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it certainly showed the very dark underbelly.

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Nobody came out with their hands clean.

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Everyone was tarred with the brush, if you like,

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of secrets and conspiracy.

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I approach this from two perspectives.

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One was, what would a truth commission look like?

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What would it achieve? I wanted to see how accurate

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or otherwise that might be. The second thing was that

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I wanted to see what it was like as a drama.

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And I have to confess, I was disappointed in both.

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I think if you were going to base a truth commission on what

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is in this, you wouldn't go down that road.

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I would advise people to do something else.

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Still bringing the truth to unbelievers, Henry?

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Why am I not surprised to see you here?

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I see you've befriended Gunman Of The Year 1990.

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They tell me he's travelled a long way since then.

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What do you hope an audience to take from The Truth Commissioner?

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I think what they'll take from it is the complexity of the situation

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up here.

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You know, I think that's what drew me to the story, both the book

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and then to Eoin's adaptation.

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When you read David's book, Eoin,

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what was it that grabbed you about it?

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It was quite daring in its proposition.

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It's as what we know to be a case, which is that, in fact,

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it's more complicated than it seems,

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people are not as obvious as they seem.

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Given a chance,

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people might do better than they appear to do in everyday life.

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And it got us out of

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the whataboutery, which is the curse of this place,

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into something more interesting as an argument.

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-He was only a kid.

-He was there.

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And all his people are dead. He can accept responsibility

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and go back to the States as if nothing had happened.

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Neither you nor I can do that.

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While I don't think the truth commission as set out in this

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film is what a truth process will look like,

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if it ever comes to that point... I think Park

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talked about in the novel -

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pre-learned vague statements of regret.

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And I think, by and large, that's what we saw in the film.

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I was a soldier fighting in a war.

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At that time I felt the victim represented a legitimate

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target in that war.

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The simple, "Tell me the truth or not at all,"

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isn't going to happen.

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Absolutely, it's so much more and so much more complex,

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it isn't just truth, it's about understanding,

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it's about justice, it's about so much more.

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People sharing futures and all of that.

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I think we will not get to further information or further

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explanation or truth, if you want to call it that,

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while there is still

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the possibility within the process of people being investigated.

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So until we get over that jump, I think we're

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a million miles away from a truth commission.

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And who speaks for the victims and the rest?

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Well, I think that's the thing, I think

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that's the thing that maybe I didn't really

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get enough of in this, in a way.

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That would be regrettable if those voices weren't heard.

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-How are you going to survive these people?

-They don't look so bad.

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Don't go lifting stones, unless you know what's underneath them.

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-Is that a message?

-Yes.

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Unless you still want to be here in 2020, narrow the brief.

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Roger, we know you, having played political figures before,

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The Thick Of It, you were in Michael Frayn's Democracy...

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But when you are bringing it to a process that is still happening,

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does that give you an extra charge as an actor?

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Well, it's not something that you're necessarily aware of

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when you're shooting a scene

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but all the time, you're kind of...

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I'm aware of it in my head.

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I think the telling of this story

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and the telling of many stories about Northern Ireland, that may be

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one of the ways in which the truth

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or the various truths will be aired.

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Was this your idea?

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I've been instructed to protect you to make sure the right

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things are said.

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-You mean you're protecting yourself...

-Francis...

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Keep your voice down.

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It feels that it's a very grown-up, political drama.

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As an actor and as someone from here,

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is that the kind of Belfast that you want reflected further afield?

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I think it's important to remember that it's fiction

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and so this is a what-if scenario.

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So what if hawks did get in with the peacemakers and the doves?

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What if there was someone in there who was deliberately trying

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to undermine the whole process?

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You're not planning some kind of a putsch, are you, Johnny?

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All I'm trying to do is to keep your name out of it.

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You cannot appear before that commission.

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Just admitting you were there would be the end of you.

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The end of all of us.

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There are people still alive for whom the Troubles were very real.

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Did you feel an added pressure because of this, Eoin?

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Yeah, we did.

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Because again,

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the question as to what closure is is very key to the book.

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I mean, is closure a nonsense?

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The idea of it, is it an illusion?

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Or is it something that we should strive to give people?

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And there are people out there who are suffering.

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The book isn't about them in particular

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but there's no doubt that we try to acknowledge their existence

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and answer some of the questions as to...how can we proceed?

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I deeply regret the pain and suffering caused to his family.

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What's good about this, at the very least, is it shows on screen

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what it could look like

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and it starts the debate as to what it should or shouldn't look like.

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And that's a very, very valuable and very,

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very topical point of departure.

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I think the big conversation that needs to be had is what is

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realistically achievable but also an honesty about what is not doable.

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I used the term recently that it's time to stop lying about the truth

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and what I mean is it's time to be more honest about what is disclosed.

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So I think the film, in all of its drama,

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has possibly delivered an ugly truth.

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That what people are looking for is just not achievable.

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Yeah, and I think

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what a commission of this kind will do is open things up in a way

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that hasn't been done before,

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it is to be hoped, but it certainly won't bring anything to an end.

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Have you anything else to add?

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No.

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Thank you.

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You don't usually get science on The Arts Show

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but an exhibition of extraordinary images opened in Derry this month,

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as part of the Northern Ireland Science Festival.

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The Royal Photographic Society's

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International Images For Science exhibition

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celebrates the interplay between art and science.

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Many of these photos provide a fascinating glimpse into our world

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as we rarely see it, producing unlikely works of art.

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What we're looking at here is actually a section through

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the stem of a palm plant

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and this is where water is transported up through

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the stems towards the leaves.

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Science provides a quite astonishing wealth of

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subject matter for photography.

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What we have here is a photograph of some soap bubbles

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and the colours come from interference patterns through

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the different thicknesses of the soap bubble

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and it forms a beautiful array of colour.

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Anyone can look at a great picture and think,

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"Wow, I wonder what that is."

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Here we have a piece of polystyrene that is seen through

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a scanning electron microscope and this was made by freezing

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the sample and then breaking it so it forms a very sharp edge.

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So you can see all the small pockets of air.

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A very wide range of people have taken the pictures that we see here.

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They range from schoolchildren through to senior researchers

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working with very expensive equipment in very,

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very expensive labs.

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The only exhibitor from Northern Ireland is bioscientist

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Dr Steven Lowry.

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This is a thin section of a hen's tongue,

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which has been stained to show up blood vessels

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and then additional colours added by using polarising and gypsum filters.

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I've been collecting old microscope slides for quite a long time now

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and this was among the slides which

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I've brought in as part of my collection.

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I used to take photographs for a living,

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I now take them for pleasure.

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Some very common household objects can produce amazing photographs.

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Substances like sugar, which are in pure crystalline form,

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can produce really interesting shapes and structures

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when you look at them under the microscope.

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When wine is stored,

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tiny little crystals of potassium bitartrate form in the wine

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and these produce lovely images.

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One of the foliage plants which you may have in the garden is

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a thing called Elaeagnus.

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And if you look closely at the leaves of the plant,

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you'll see tiny little silver hairs

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and these produce amazing patterns when you look at them

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under the microscope.

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It's a celebration of the way photography

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and science work together...

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..as works of art.

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They have a beauty, they engage,

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they capture your imagination and your sight even without

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knowing anything necessarily about why they were created.

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Writing a black comedy about a disaffected East Belfast Loyalist

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who believes that his five-week old granddaughter is Gerry Adams,

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is trademark David Ireland humour.

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Stephen Rea plays Eric Miller in Cyprus Avenue

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and takes one man's identity crisis to the limits.

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Aren't you the best baby in Belfast? Aren't you?

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The best wee baby in the whole of Belfast.

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Well, we don't know that.

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-What?

-It's not very scientific.

-What are you talking about?

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We don't know that this is the best baby in Belfast.

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There might be better babies.

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What way is that talk about your own granddaughter - "better babies"?

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The central idea of the play - about this man, Eric Miller,

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who thinks that...

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He's positive his granddaughter looks like Gerry Adams

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and then that she IS Gerry Adams.

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It's an incredible kind of potent,

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kind of extraordinary, imaginative and mad idea.

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This baby is the most gorgeous, cutest baby in the whole wide world.

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-I doubt it.

-What?

-Nothing.

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I think David is one of the...

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Is emerging as one of the finest writers in the English language.

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And that's a big thing to say but I think he's extraordinary

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and he does this extraordinary mixture of kind of high humour,

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very, very black humour that he is becoming known for.

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What is wrong with you? What is actually wrong with you?

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-Mum, he's just joking.

-I'm not.

-He's not joking.

-I'm really not.

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I can't write a normal play.

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I've tried to and every time I try to write a normal play

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it always blows up in my face, so...

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I seem to be drawn to ideas that

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other people consider bizarre.

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-So in what way did... Her name again?

-Mary Mae.

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In what way did Mary Mae, your granddaughter,

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in what way did she,

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could she closely resemble a man 60 years her senior?

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-Round about the eyes.

-Her eyes?

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Have you ever heard the expression, "Fenian eyes"?

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No.

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Very Fenian-looking, especially round the eyes.

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There is this fundamental question about what it is like to be

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a Protestant in the post-Troubles Northern Ireland.

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Is that what you're getting at with this play?

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I think in a lot of Irish fiction and drama,

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the Loyalist case or the Loyalist identity is something that is

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not taken, you know, very seriously.

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Not that this play particularly takes it seriously

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but it's very complicated, you know,

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and I wanted to write a play that would reflect that.

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-Are you familiar with the song When Irish Eyes Are Smiling?

-No.

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# When Irish eyes are smiling

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# Sure, the world smiles with them too... #

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They have all the songs. Our songs are pitiful alongside theirs.

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Most rebel songs are sentimental and self-serving but not that one,

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that one is true.

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A Protestant's eyes never smile

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unless it's absolutely necessary.

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But Irish eyes are forever smiling.

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That's how you tell the difference.

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The Irish smile as they kill and, as they destroy, they sing.

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MUSIC: Cyprus Avenue by Van Morrison

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# Well, I'm caught one more time

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# Up on Cyprus Avenue... #

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People who know Cyprus Avenue know it's a very well-heeled, tree-lined

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middle-class boulevard.

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It's not the place that you would immediately associate with

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dysfunctional Loyalism.

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He's taking this relatively middle-class man,

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a Protestant, obviously, but a middle-class man who,

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at this moment in his life, goes into some kind of psychosis

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and as a result of that, the victims of his self-loathing

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are his closest family, all of whom are women.

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You never had any interest in babies anyway.

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-Even when you were born, he didn't care.

-That's not true, is it Dad?

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Oh, that is true.

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When you were born I didn't understand what all the fuss

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was about.

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-I didn't really get you.

-Daddy!

-I like you now.

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I started liking you from you were about 12.

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That is the atrocity, really, that the history and the trauma

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of his past and the past around him has turned him in on his own future.

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Ten years ago I was in London, so I was.

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The centre of the Empire.

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And it felt like there were more Irish there than there

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were in Ireland.

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English voices, Cockney voices calling themselves Irish.

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You've no idea what that does to a Unionist mind like mine.

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I've been writing this play for four years, I started writing

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it four years ago, so it's hard to believe it's actually going ahead.

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I thought that it would never actually get produced.

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But then The Abbey and The Royal Court take it

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and then you get Stephen Rea in the lead role.

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Yeah, well, I wrote it for Stephen before I knew him

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and I thought, "There's no way he would ever do it."

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In line with the government requirements,

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Mr Adams' voice is replaced by that of an actor.

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Does Stephen's own actual backstory,

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including the fact that he voiced

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Gerry Adams' words during the broadcasting ban,

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add a historical frisson to him playing this part?

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I knew he'd understand the depth and the humour of it.

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Or he'd find the depth in it, whereas other actors might struggle

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because it might seem like a flippant or superficial play.

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But it's funny because other people have mentioned the broadcasting ban

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and I knew that Stephen had voiced Gerry Adams

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but I didn't realise everybody else knew that.

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I thought that was a little nugget of information that

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only I knew. But he wasn't the only actor, there was

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a lot of actors who voiced Gerry Adams.

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There's also a reference to Interview With The Vampire as well.

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Why aren't there Protestant vampires?

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Yeah, where are all the Protestant vampires?

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Yeah, when will our stories be told?

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# If you're Irish

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# Come into the parlour

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# There's a welcome there for you

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# If your name is Timothy or Pat

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# So long as you're not a Protestant

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# There's a welcome on the mat... #

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-Has Gerry Adams been invited to see the play?

-I don't know.

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I think if The Abbey's lawyers were here...

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they would instruct me not to answer that question.

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I don't think... The fact that it's Gerry Adams...

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I think when a lot of people heard I was writing this they think,

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"Oh, it's a play about Gerry Adams."

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Gerry Adams is just the object of this character's obsession,

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it's really got very little to do with the real Gerry Adams.

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Because I don't know the real Gerry Adams.

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-Not yet.

-Not yet, who knows? Maybe we'll become friends through this.

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# We'll sing you a song We'll make a fuss

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# We'll blow up a building or maybe a bus

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# If you're Irish this is the place for you. #

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The Survivalist is the BAFTA-nominated debut feature film

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from Northern Irish writer-director Stephen Fingleton.

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Starring Belfast actor Martin McCann,

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it was shot entirely on location in Northern Ireland and has been

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described as Mad Max in the countryside.

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Its post-apocalyptic bleakness has garnered international acclaim,

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gaining a fan in none other than Robert De Niro,

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who screened it at his Tribeca Film Festival

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in New York City.

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The film was released earlier this month. We met up with its creator.

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The world of the film is very unusual.

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It's set in a time after society seems to have collapsed

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but the natural environment, the ecology,

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the forest in which the film is set is thriving.

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And this is very unusual. Typically in post-event films,

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you're seeing wastelands, desert and things like this.

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This is the reverse.

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The environment is getting along fine,

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there's just a lot less people.

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I wanted to show a world where our kind of social norms

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no longer applied

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and people are essentially depicted almost like animals.

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Surely you can spare something.

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There's more than enough.

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That's what THEY all thought.

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The film, essentially, is a suspense movie about these three

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characters and, because of the nature of the environment

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they're in, you know they've all killed to survive.

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They've done whatever it takes. So whatever transactions occur,

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whatever conversations or physical encounters,

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it's just the surface.

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Beneath it, there's a range of violence they're capable of,

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which makes it very, very tense.

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You never know what a character's going to do next.

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FLOORBOARDS CREAK

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HEAVY BREATHING

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The script made it onto the Hollywood blacklist,

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which is a semi-official list of scripts that have been

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voted on by executives, producers

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and other individuals.

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And it's basically an informal way of saying,

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"What have you read this year that you really liked?"

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And it's quite unusual for a small script written by a Northern Irish

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writer to make it onto something like that.

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Particularly as it's a very small story.

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You've got a lot of very, very, very big films.

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The film my script was jointly ranked with was

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made into a movie with Johnny Depp.

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She likes you.

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When I started working with the actors,

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I completely changed the script because, ultimately,

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I don't tell the story, my actors tell the story

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and I need to make sure they're telling the story in their voice

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because that's what's going to be believable.

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We could clear more land.

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-More hands to manage it.

-I've managed so far.

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You've been lucky.

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It wasn't luck.

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I knew from the very beginning that, in the first 15 minutes of

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the film, there would be no dialogue because it was a single character.

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That kind of set the tone.

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If there's no dialogue, it's all about sound.

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And we spent a huge amount of time in postproduction

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completely recreating the sound.

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Almost everything in the film has been re-recorded,

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so we can control everything. The wind,

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to the creaking of the steps, to the rattle on a handle and, although

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you mightn't realise that watching it, it has a great effect on you.

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Milja has an interest in music and musical notes and tones.

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She plays with glass,

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she uses a fork to create kind of a tuning sound.

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FORK TWANGS

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The reason that came about into the film was,

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first of all, my sound designer wanted those elements within

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the story to remind the audience of the absence of score.

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But secondly, there's a backstory reason.

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When I talked to Mia about her character,

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we agreed that her father was a composer

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and she will never be able to do what he did

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but she's interested by the idea of music.

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And so that's the reason her character does that.

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Now, the audience doesn't need to know that

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but you feel she's doing it for a reason.

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FORK TWANGS

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Well, it's a really exciting time if you're a new director

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because there's a lot of opportunities if you make

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what is considered to be like one good film, even if it's small,

0:24:080:24:11

you'll have a lot of people knocking on your door

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and I've been fortunate enough to have one particularly great

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company come to me and I'm working on quite a big film to write and

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direct for them, which would be for a kind of mainstream audience.

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The Survivalist will probably be most seen on VOD platforms

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like iTunes and Google Play when it's released.

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But this film is something that will be in every cinema.

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The thing I love about movies is it's art meets commerce.

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If I wanted to have complete control, I would write novels.

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So I enjoy that challenge and I love that other people can help

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bring expertise and show you new ways of finding stories because

0:24:530:24:58

I get very bored stuck in my head

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and I love making something that's more collective.

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I really get a lot of energy from that.

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-HIGH-PITCHED TONE

-Shut the door.

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Well, that's almost all we have time for on The Arts Show for this month.

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You can keep up-to-date, though,

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with arts coverage on BBC Radio Ulster's The Arts Show,

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Tuesdays to Fridays at half past six.

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We leave you tonight with some local live music. David Lyttle

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has built up a high profile in the world of jazz.

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He's been nominated for a MOBO award,

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Rolling Stone Magazine glowingly reviewed his 2015 album, Faces,

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he's currently moving on music's artist in residence at the MAC

0:25:390:25:43

and he goes on tour with his trio in April. Here's a sneak preview.

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Goodnight.

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