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This month on The Arts Show, we're here at the Ulster Museum

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for one of the biggest portrait awards in the world -

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The BP Portrait Awards.

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Coming up, to be or not to begorra.

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Local comic hero Tim McGarry asks

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if Shakespeare created the drunken Irish Paddy's stereotype.

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Irish rugby star Paddy Jackson tells us

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about the art that changed his world.

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British and Irish Children's Laureates Eoin Colfer

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and Chris Riddell on writing for the most merciless of all audiences -

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kids.

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And we've music from the Cathedral Quarter Arts Festival's

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artist-in-residence, Jealous of the Birds.

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I'm on Twitter now @bbcartsshow.

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This month is the 400th anniversary of the death of William Shakespeare.

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The BBC is marking it with a special festival.

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While he left us an incredible back catalogue of plays,

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poems and prose, it can also be argued that he saddled us

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with a caricature of Ireland that has endured for centuries -

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the drunken Irish Paddy.

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Writer and comedian Tim McGarry sticks it to the Bard.

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Knock, knock. Who's there?

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An Irish burglar.

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That's a great gag.

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It's pithy, it deconstructs the "knock, knock" format and it

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contains a lovely image of a man in a mask rapping your front door.

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But it also contains a stereotype.

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The stereotype that Irish people are stupid.

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Hello.

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Father Dougal McGuire here.

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For centuries, on stage and in the media,

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the portrayal of Irish people has been...

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Well, wee bit dopey.

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Play us a tune, you lot.

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An Irish tune!

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But what's worse than that, we've also been betrayed

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as argumentative, cowardly, dishonest, savage,

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and above all, drunk.

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Always drunk.

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You know, Ireland has more drunks per capita than people.

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Oh, that's a negative stereotype.

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I don't think the Irish drink as much as people say they do.

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And you know who I blame for this negative image of Irish people?

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Do you know who I blame?

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Billy Shakespeare.

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Stage Irishness is the exaggerated

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and caricatured portrayal of Irish characteristics.

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Characteristics that were always negative.

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But where did it start?

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Well, the first famous example is

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the character of Captain Macmorris in Shakespeare's Henry V.

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The town is beseeched.

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An the trumpet call us to the breach and we talk and, be Chrish,

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do nothing!

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He's hot tempered. He's uncultured.

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He talks about cutting throats.

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And he utters the infamous line...

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What ish my nation?

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Ish it villain, and a bastard, and a knave, and a rascal.

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What ish my nation?

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Who talks of my nation?

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The, "ish" seems important to me, because it seems to mock the way

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Irish people speak.

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And it implies not only difference, but inferiority.

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So, Shakespeare...

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Yeah, he may have been England's greatest ever writer,

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but was he also an anti-Irish bigot?

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This is the actual house in which Shakespeare was

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born in Stratford-upon-Avon.

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I asked leading authority on the Bard Professor Stanley Wells

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if Irish people are wrong to take offence at Macmorris.

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I think they are wrong.

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I don't think he's very offensively portrayed.

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He is, after all, one of Henry V's supporters.

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He's slightly jokily portrayed, of course.

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Because he's a national stereotype, as the Scotsman

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and the Welshman also are in that scene.

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You're saying Shakespeare was drawing on stock stereotypes

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-that existed already?

-Yes, yes.

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It's a sort of mother-in-law joke, really, I think.

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The audience would have smiled sympathetically.

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He's an early example of it, I'd rather say,

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rather than a setting of the stereotype.

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So you're a Shakespeare defender, so you're not going to

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say that he was anti-Irish in any shape or form, are you?

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Well, I don't think he was anti-Irish, no.

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I think he was drawing on ordinary jokes,

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common jokes, common attitudes,

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which his audience would have recognised about nationality.

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Just as nowadays, people have stereotypical attitudes.

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Of course, we're a bit more politically conscious nowadays.

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We frown a bit more than perhaps they did in Shakespeare's

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time on national stereotype jokes.

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But I think Shakespeare, yes, he shared in those,

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but in a good-humoured way I think.

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O, tish ill done, tish ill done; by my hand, tish ill done!

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So, whether Shakespeare meant it or not, the damage was done

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and the stereotype stuck.

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Now, let's be honest, with stereotypes,

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there's sometimes a grain of truth.

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Irish people drink too much.

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Listen, probably best if you don't show any

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footage of Jimmy Nesbitt at that boxing match.

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Oh, I hope so. He can box.

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Or St Patrick's Day in the Holylands.

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The police spent more than two hours trying to clear the streets.

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I suspect he didn't care enough about the Irish

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to be an anti-Irish bigot. Because, you know, let's face it,

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you've 37 plays. That's about... Well, what's that?

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It's about 150 acts, maybe 800 scenes and there's what, one scene

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and one character.

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There's a few other minor references to Ireland.

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Really, in that same scene, there is a Welsh character, Fluellen,

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who's long-winded and boring and says, "look you," all the time.

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And there is a Scot in it, Jamy,

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who is completely incomprehensible when you read it on the page.

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I mean, national stereotyping was just par for the course.

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Knock-about, a bit of knock-about humour.

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You could more accuse Shakespeare of that general trend of you

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stereotype people, you use what the English considered to be

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funny accents and strange ways of using the English language.

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But there's a stage Irish persona,

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there's not a stage Welshman or a stage Scotsman.

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I mean, my own feeling is that that came more directly...

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I mean, it became a thing in the 19th century.

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Whether you can say, "Oh, Shakespeare did it,

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"so we'll do too." I think it was much more part

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of the 19th century stage. The Punch cartoons of the time.

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The imperialist outlook was much greater.

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The big accusation you make about Shakespeare is that he really

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didn't care about the Irish at all.

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The stage Irishman survived right up until recent times.

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The bow-tied comedians of the 1970s all had a large

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stockpile of thick Paddy jokes.

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On radio and TV, the portrayal of the Irishman may not have been as a

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knuckle-dragging savage, but he was still very much a figure of fun.

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Maybe I'm being too sensitive.

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I mean, come on, Mr O'Reilly in Fawlty Towers,

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he's very, very funny.

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I like a woman with spirit.

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Oh, do you? Is that what you like?

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-I do, I do!

-Oh, good.

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Now, Sybil, that's enough.

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Come on, then, give us a smile!

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So what if his portrayal is a little bit anti-Irish?

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Look at what Fawlty Towers did for the Spanish.

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-Shut up.

-Eh?

-Shut up.

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Si, si, shut up. Yes, I understand. Yes.

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-Well, will you please shut up then?

-Si, si, I shut up.

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-Now, while we're away...

-Shut up.

-Shut up!

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Things have changed for the better.

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It's unacceptable now to be blatantly anti-Irish.

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In the same way only black people can use the N word,

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the only people who can now take the hand out of the Irish are the Irish.

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Thank you, father. Thank...thank...you...I...

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-I know.

-She's all I've got...

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I know. I know.

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How do you fucking know?

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I mean, seriously, imagine if Mrs Brown's Boys was actually

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written and performed by English people.

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There'd be an outcry.

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A few years ago, it wasn't inconceivable.

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Now, there's nothing inherently wrong with pointing out

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stereotypes or using stereotypes to get a laugh.

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I mean, we've all done that...

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occasionally.

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Emer is my wife, will you, please, try and make her feel more at home?

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OK, OK.

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-I'll put some coal in the bath.

-Oi!

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And I'll get a couple of pigs for the kitchen.

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But, like all things, context is everything.

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Who is doing the stereotyping and why?

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And what are they trying to say?

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Which brings me full circle.

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It's 400 years since the death of William Shakespeare.

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And you know Irish people, we don't like to bear a grudge.

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Oh, no, we let bygones be bygones.

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So, William Shakespeare, we forgive you.

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Yes, he may have started the portrayal of the stage Irishman,

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but let's cut the man some slack.

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Maybe he was only joking.

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Now, if his Instagram posts are anything to go by, the Ulster and

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All-Ireland rugby star Paddy Jackson has a pretty wicked sense of humour.

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The Arts Show took him off pitch to share with us some of the culture

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that first made a big impression on him.

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One of my earliest memories was from 10th or 11th birthday,

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my dad got me a CD and it was a T Rex album.

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And I'd never heard them before.

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# Get it on Bang a gong

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# Get it on.#

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Of course,

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kids at my age weren't listening to stuff like that at the time.

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So, I kind of set it down and didn't really pay much attention to it.

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I thought it was a bit of a strange gift.

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And then, of course, my dad went and picked up straightaway,

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took it to his car and put it into the CD player.

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From then on, he was playing it when we were driving in the car

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and I just really loved them from hearing them straightaway.

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I thought kind of the coolest thing was that it was my dad's music.

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I just instantly, kind of, fell in love with the music.

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The likes of Children Of The Revolution,

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Get It On and 20th Century Boy.

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# I'm your toy Your 20th century boy. #

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My favourite film growing up definitely has to be The Lion King.

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I know everyone, it's probably a childhood favourite for many people.

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Obviously, it's just a great film. I still love watching it.

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# The circle of life. #

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I remember going to see the musical written about George Best's life -

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Dancing Shoes written by Martin Lynch.

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I really loved it and it was obviously really special for Dad.

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George Best was a hero of his.

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Just what he did as a footballer was amazing.

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And then being someone, obviously, in rugby,

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it's someone that I've always looked up to.

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And, obviously, being so important to my dad,

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it was pretty important to me as well.

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Favourite book would have to be the Harry Potter books.

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I've read all of them countless times.

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I'm sure if I have a family when I'm older,

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I'll make sure the kids will read them.

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I just think it's it such a magical story and it's worldwide,

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so everyone loves it.

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I'm really looking forward to the new film coming out,

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Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them.

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So, I'll have to give that a watch.

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I've only ever been to a few concerts,

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but the one that stood out for me was Mumford And Sons.

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# I will wait I will wait for you. #

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They'd definitely be my favourite band.

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Ever since I heard their early music,

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I just fell in love with them.

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I always said I wanted to go and see them live.

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I got there about three hours early, my legs were killing me

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by the time Mumford even came on.

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But as soon as they started playing, I was just enthralled throughout

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the whole concert. And it definitely blew my mind.

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I'd definitely love to go and see them play live again.

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Now, celebrated Belfast poet Medbh McGuckian was recently

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shortlisted for the prestigious Irish Times Poetry Now Award

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for her collection, Balris Moor.

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Here she is reading from it.

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The water knows the way down to the Titanic and her two sisters.

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She rouges her silver lightness, buttons her gown herself,

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so high, so closed, her days malodorous from saturated skies.

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Do you think it reflects well on our city to ones who arrived only

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a week ago to go outdoors in pyjamas to the turgid bar district?

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The Gucci outlets in the city's revamped living room.

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To photograph a child on the Kings Highway.

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Gone is the edginess of the city, cleansed of conflict,

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argument, debate, protest, ructions and ribaldry.

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Notwithstanding the spy cameras, the pop-up shops,

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the flash mobs of drink-fuelled petrol heads,

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the new Purple Flag award.

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I still have to find my life through the false prison of

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Samson and Goliath,

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the ailing road perfuming the heavy curtains of Parliament.

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We still show our papers to reveal where we are going.

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Well, we're all too used to taking a selfie these days,

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but what makes a portrait different?

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We are here at what have been dubbed the portraiture Oscars -

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The BP Portrait Awards -

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on a long overdue return visit to the Ulster Museum.

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Kim, what makes a portrait different to a selfie we take on our phone?

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I think it's really the magic that happens

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between artist and the sitter.

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That engagement and interaction between the artist's brush

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and the analytical way that they look at that person.

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But also, they're talking, engaging with the sitter.

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They're learning more about that person, their personality.

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And that actually adds another layer to the image that we see

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and the painting.

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And, really, you can't replicate that in a photograph.

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There's so many questions that we want to ask about portraits

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that have been painted. You know, who is that sitter?

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Why did the artist choose that person?

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And why is the composition in that way?

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I mean, it is such a magical experience for not

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just the artist, but the sitter themselves.

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I suppose, also, the artist

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is probably going to show your flaws. Whereas, on a selfie,

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you're going to either delete or heavily Photoshop yourself.

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I've spoken to many of the portrait artists about it, that

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some of the sitters actually say that there is a

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layer of themselves or an aspect of their personality that comes

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out in the paint that they are quite shocked at.

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That they weren't expecting that the public then could actually see.

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These are the Rolls-Royce, I believe, of portrait awards.

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It is. It's internationally important.

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92 countries' artists submitted work to this show.

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And out of the 2,748 that were digitally submitted,

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it was whittled down in a two-stage process.

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To seeing the actual paintings, there were 456 of those,

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and then it became the 55 selected artists that are in the show.

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Five out of those 55 artists are Irish.

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The variety that you see on the walls is amazing.

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And every artist's interpretation, whether it their own self-portrait

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or of another person or a group of people, is just incredible.

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It really appeals to a wide audience, this exhibition.

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Did you have to really put in a tough pitch

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to get it to Northern Ireland?

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Cos it's quite hard to get it out of London, isn't it?

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We haven't had this exhibition here since 1998.

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And it was really important that it came back to Belfast

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to allow our public to see it.

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I've heard so many people say that they travelled over to London

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to see the exhibition.

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Well, now they can come and see it here at the Ulster Museum.

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-Do you have favourites?

-It's actually very difficult.

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A lot of people have asked me that, even

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when we were hanging the exhibition.

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It actually changes, because such a variety of different styles

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and different compositions that the artists have used.

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Depending on my mood, that's when I sort of look and go,

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"Well, I really like you today."

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I change my mind the next time I'm in.

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You'll probably miss them as well, whenever they're gone.

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Yes, we will miss them.

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It allows different audiences to engage with this contemporary art

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and, in particular, obviously, portraiture.

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Kim, thank you very much.

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Now, I have always loved reading, ever

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since my mum took me to the local library as a child.

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And it's something I handed on to my own children, too.

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It's really great to know that children here have

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their reading backs covered by not one, but two Children's Laureates.

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British Children's Laureate Chris Riddell is

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the writer of the Goth Girl series.

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And Eoin Colfer of Artemis Fowl fame is his Irish counterpart,

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the Laureate na nOg.

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I met with these two super heroes of storytelling in a recent

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flying visit to Belfast.

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Gentleman, welcome.

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As Children's Laureates, which one of you do you feel has

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-the best bling for your chain of office?

-Well...

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I have a recurring nightmare that I put it on and wear it.

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A) I forget I'm wearing it.

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I'm on public transport looking ludicrous.

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Or I put it down inadvertently and walk away and lose it.

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At which point, I'd have to resign in disgrace.

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Well, I gave mine to my son.

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He's doing rubbings, so he likes to do them, he's like, the little rubbing...

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Banksy rubbings, all over Dublin!

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-With your bling!

-With the laureate bling.

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Is there a difference between the British and the Irish Laureate?

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I love the children's book culture in both the UK and in Ireland.

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-It's a very close one.

-Is there a difference though?

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Well, it's an interesting one...

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I think they're going together, as more and more Irish Art graduates and artists kind of go out into

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the world, and it's kind of a golden age for us at the moment.

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Recent research would say that children are reading more than ever.

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-Yeah.

-So the demise of children's books would be greatly exaggerated?

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The oft-heralded demise! I think every time some new form of

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media comes on, the death knell is tolled for children's books.

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And, you know, whether it's the theatre or home cinema,

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or movies or DVD or the internet, and it never happens.

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And in fact, picture books, especially, are stronger than ever,

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stronger than ever.

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And they never took a hit from e-books, which I think is fantastic.

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How do you navigate though the noise that is out there with technology in our digital age?

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I think you embrace it.

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I think you actually...

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People who love books talk about books,

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they blog about books, they'll post things on the various social networking sites.

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It becomes a community and one's invited in to talk about that

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and that's a lovely thing.

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Because you're very good on social media,

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particularly with your "Doodle a Day".

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Yes, I post these up on social media, on my Instagram, Facebook, Tumblr,

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so that people can see what I'm doing or what I'm not doing, sometimes.

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-Have you embraced the digital age?

-Um, a little bit.

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I do like that if there's a book group in Virginia who would

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love to have you come over, but you can't,

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you can do FaceTime with them, or you can make them a little video.

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And I make a lot of little videos for people and send them off.

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And that's just a little way to use the technology,

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which I totally agree with Chris on.

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There is no point in not embracing it.

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So I try to embrace as much as possible.

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Well, I lived pre-internet, which is the Stone Age for my children.

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-What books were you reading?

-Clive King, Stig Of The Dump.

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Yes, I remember very clearly thinking, "All right, that's it.

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"I want to write a story like this."

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But it very definitely changed my outlook on life.

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It's quite a sort of obscure book.

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It was called Agaton Sax And The Jewel Thieves.

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And I thought, "Ooh, looks interesting!"

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-I picked it up, far too difficult for me, but it had illustrations.

-Yeah.

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So I started to read as well as I could, Agaton Sax.

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Struggled through it, got to the end and I thought,

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"Peter and Jane are dead to me. I want another Agaton Sax."

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-And so I went off to the library and found one.

-Like Tony Soprano!

-THEY LAUGH

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Do you feel the responsibility of children's authors

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to reflect children's lives?

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Or are you just interested in escape and firing their imaginations?

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All that and more.

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I think you want to reflect...

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I think stories contain truth, you know?

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And that's why we love stories.

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They can reflect our experiences,

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they can be windows into other people's experiences.

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I think books are wonderful, empathic things

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where you learn about the world around you

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and you learn about worlds you're yet to experience.

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And they can also take you to amazing places.

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I love this phrase the Book Trust use, which says,

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"It's not a book, it's a door."

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And I love that.

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You know, it is a doorway into somewhere else.

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So you pick up a book, it's shaped like a door, you can enter another place and another reality.

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Why do you think children are still reading?

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If you get a child to read, they are reading for life.

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They're not going to stop.

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It's like I often say to kids,

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"Imagine you go to Disneyland and the gates open

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"and you say, 'Well, I'm not going to go on any of those rides over there.'

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"And you say, 'No, it's great fun! And it's, 'No, I don't want to go on any of those rides!'"

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That's what it is like, saying you're not going to read a book.

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It's like you're at the gates of Disneyland and you decide, "No, I'm not going on the rides."

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So, you know, read the book and be happy forever.

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Two tellers of tall tales, Eoin and Chris.

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And they are champions of the BBC's new Get Reading campaign,

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which launches this month with the Shakespeare Festival.

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There'll be numerous events across radio, TV and online

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to get the nation reading.

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We're back on air, BBC Radio Ulster, Tuesdays to Fridays at 6.30

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and online for extra material.

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Some music now.

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Jealous Of The Birds is the alias of the Armagh singer-songwriter, Naomi Hamilton.

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She's currently artist-in-residence of this year's Cathedral Quarter Arts Festival

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and her debut album, Parma Violets is out on the 6th of May.

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Here she is, recorded exclusively for The Arts Show.

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# She said, I'm blue

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# As a robin's egg

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# I've done nothing to make me proud

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# I rehearse conversations in

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# The shower when I am home alone

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# No-one has ever bought me flowers

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# Or smoked a joint on my Persian rug

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# Go to Mexico

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# And lie under a mango tree

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# And watch a line of crows

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# Grace the southern breeze, but you won't know where they go

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# Everything just scatters out like acorns in the snow

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# Or dust clouds in a drought

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# She said (she said) I care (I care)

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# Too much these days

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# About (about) my place (My place) in this ball of yarn

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# There's not (there's not) a lot (a lot) that I can boast

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# I water (I water) plants and make French Toast

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# And muse (and muse) like some (like some) old misanthrope

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# Afraid (afraid) to sow (to sow)

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# All my wild oats

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# Read Walt Whitman poems

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# Drink a bottle of Champagne

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# And sing some Leonard Cohen

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# I love it when he speaks so plain

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# The way you often do

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# When I am crying after midnight

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# Just between us two

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# It makes me smile to know you're all right. #

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