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Hello and welcome to the Culture Show from Glasgow. This week we are | :00:09. | :00:12. | |
experiencing an unconventional opera, pondering the political | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
memoir, seeing a skier remove the and honouring the octogenarian King | :00:17. | :00:25. | |
of British design -- seen a scary movie. Coming up tonight: Mark | :00:25. | :00:31. | |
Wallinger meets an artist. The Way We Live Now. Sir Terence Conran | :00:31. | :00:38. | |
talks to Alan Yentob. Someone living in the country and | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
doesn't make anything, it is awful. I get the latest on the Cultural | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
Olympiad. And online expert Aleks Krotoski | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
explains why search results are not as serendipitous as this theme. | :00:51. | :00:58. | |
Also tonight: David did his art for opera. | :00:58. | :01:03. | |
And Racal boy ponders the importance of the Personal memoir | :01:03. | :01:12. | |
when playing for political power. Mark Kermode talks to Rebecca Hall, | :01:12. | :01:16. | |
stock of The Awakening. And we reveal the winning buildings | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
in this year's Heritage Angel Awards. | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
First tonight, Mark one danger is one of Britain's best-known and | :01:22. | :01:29. | |
most played for contemporary artists. He has called the public | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
imagination with works as diverse as a statue of Jesus Christ, a | :01:33. | :01:38. | |
perfect replica of the Iraq war protests of Brian Haw, and a | :01:38. | :01:42. | |
performance piece in which he dressed up as a bear. A new book | :01:42. | :01:49. | |
has been published about Mark, so Alastair went to meet him. | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
During the summer of 2010, and mysterious set of graffiti began to | :01:53. | :02:01. | |
appear across London. From Clapham to Camden, each tag was the same. | :02:01. | :02:07. | |
Mark. Always the same size, always placed in the middle of a brick in | :02:07. | :02:12. | |
unremarkable locations. It turns out that the tax were up by the | :02:12. | :02:18. | |
Turner prize-winning artists Mark Wallinger, and he has evolved into | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
one of Britain's most unconventional artists. He works in | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
painting, video, sculpture and performance and his pieces can be | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
very personal, profound, highly political but also with a lightness | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
of touch. He can be really funny. He is the only artist I can think | :02:37. | :02:42. | |
of who has made a piece that involves dressing up as a bear. I | :02:42. | :02:50. | |
met up with Mark to try to find one of his tax. There is one here! Your | :02:50. | :03:00. | |
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handiwork! For parents or stupidity that kept me from fully utilising | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
the punning potential of my name. Something to do with the urban | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
experience as well, anonymity, and trying to make a mark, be an | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
individual, but that is lost as a gesture of one brick among the | :03:16. | :03:23. | |
billions within London. How many have you done? Well over 2000. They | :03:23. | :03:28. | |
range from Clapham Junction to Shoreditch, makes their to the Old | :03:28. | :03:37. | |
Kent Road, and yet -- Mayfair. has become an obsession? I was | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
caught in the act was and this guy said, your name is all over town | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
and that was nice, because I did hope it would creep up on people. | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
Mark will ensure's art has always been diverse. His series of | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
portraits of the capital highlighted the problem of | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
homelessness in London. He was the first artist to make a work for the | :04:00. | :04:07. | |
Fourth Plinth in Trafalgar Square in 1999. In 2004, he spent 10 | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
consecutive nights dressed as a bear in Berlin's Museum of Modern | :04:10. | :04:17. | |
Art. He won the Turner Prize in 2007 for a reconstruction of the | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
late anti-war protester Brian Haw's peace camp, which stood outside | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
Westminster from 2001 up to 2006. If you think back over you can read, | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
it is quite hard to pin down what you do as an artist -- over your | :04:32. | :04:38. | |
career. Why have you almost consciously resisted creating your | :04:38. | :04:44. | |
own signature style? Originally, I would define myself as a painter | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
and once I opened my mind to other media and what those things had | :04:48. | :04:54. | |
inherent within them, the possibilities of those, then I | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
suppose that it did seem very liberating. In the 90s, when you | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
started working with different media, including video, you | :05:03. | :05:08. | |
introduced religion and faith as an explicit part of the work. Perhaps | :05:08. | :05:15. | |
the best-known example is "this man". Why would you suddenly so | :05:15. | :05:22. | |
drawn to creating is overtly religious imagery? Two factors. The | :05:22. | :05:27. | |
history of Christian art really, Westernised, but the other thing | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
was the rise of fundamentalism and that made me think about how much | :05:31. | :05:40. | |
the residue of Christianity in a pretty secular society, how much it | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
still chimes. There is a lovely connection in the book of the one | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
man in Trafalgar Square and another lone man in a bid from square of | :05:49. | :05:54. | |
national importance in London, Brian Haw in Parliament Square. | :05:54. | :06:00. | |
That protest inspired State Britain. Why were Brian Haw's actions so | :06:00. | :06:06. | |
compelling? Above all else, it was the power of the document that he | :06:06. | :06:12. | |
was unfolding. He was shaming and lot of people, not just the | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
government. There had been one huge protest before we went to war and | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
then everybody seems to go home. I was photographing his things got a | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
couple of years just because I thought it was a remarkable thing. | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
You've got to know him? I got to know him when I knew I was going to | :06:30. | :06:40. | |
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propose it, yes, and he let me take 800 photographs. On 22nd May, I | :06:41. | :06:46. | |
took a couple of curators to the square and said that a proposed to | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
remake Brighton's protest, and that very night, 78 policemen came and | :06:50. | :06:57. | |
took it away. Really? Yeah. spent time in Berlin and famously | :06:57. | :07:03. | |
you dressed up in a best suit when you were there. Aid there is a | :07:03. | :07:13. | |
symbol of Berlin. It was called Sleep but. -- the bear is a symbol | :07:13. | :07:20. | |
of Berlin. How important is it that your work always has some wit and | :07:20. | :07:27. | |
lightness? I don't like pretentious finger poking work. I was not going | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
to do any impressions, I was going to be a guy dressed up as a bed but | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
there needs to be enough motivation and motor energy and there were | :07:37. | :07:43. | |
enough people always outside that I could interact with or play with. | :07:43. | :07:48. | |
It was only really on very few occasions where there was no one | :07:48. | :07:55. | |
there at all and that became quite a strange, meditative moment. | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
would love to ask you about a much more recent piece that is as yet | :07:59. | :08:08. | |
unrealised. The horse that you may yet erect in Kent. Tell me a little | :08:08. | :08:14. | |
bit about that. It will be a 50 metres high, a white horse, with | :08:14. | :08:20. | |
the steel superstructure and a cement finish over concrete, and | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
hopefully it will be at Ebbsfleet, where the chalk of the North Downs | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
runs into the Thames estuary and that led me to think about hillside | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
figures made of chalk and it interested me that it is kind of on | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
that road that is in and out of Europe and the rest of the world. | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
You would see it on the Eurostar? Yes, and the motorway, so it is | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
both of this country and of that relationship with the wider world | :08:45. | :08:51. | |
and history. Any sense of when we will see the White Horse? I hope | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
there will be some good news on that coming up in the not-too- | :08:55. | :09:04. | |
distant future. After the Olympics? Yeah. And the book Marked by Martin | :09:04. | :09:09. | |
Herbert is out now. David is a hugely popular visual | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
artist who deals with the so real and the daft. Now he has turned his | :09:14. | :09:21. | |
hand to opera, collaborating with Nicholas Bone and they need they be | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
saying -- David Fennessey. He has come up with an opera inspired by | :09:26. | :09:34. | |
TV cookery shows. We went to find out more. | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
This is an opera about food. It is a really good subject for an opera | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
and I wish I had thought a bit myself, but I know from experience | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
how difficult it is to get this kind of show right. But the process | :09:46. | :09:56. | |
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SINGING. # Super #. | :10:02. | :10:08. | |
Pass this boom is set in the world of daytime television, a cookery | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
programme where the chefs have to create a special meal to entertain | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
a different guest every week. In this episode, they are planning | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
what will be on the menu but then Mr Banana start to question their | :10:20. | :10:29. | |
ingredients. Banana custard? Ride from the start, the creators of | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
"pass of the spoon" insisted on using the finest ingredients. The | :10:34. | :10:44. | |
composer and director made the decision to come to someone else | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
before the operetta. It is not for a dramatist and poet so there is | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
David Trickey's work and mind and a lot of the time we are grinding | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
together against each other. We are not always been the same direction | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
and that was deliberate. We set up this slightly opposing world. | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
Fennessey is a serious composer, who has written four symphony | :11:07. | :11:13. | |
orchestras and string quartet. David treacly is known for his | :11:13. | :11:18. | |
offbeat drawings and animations. have written a few comic operas in | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
my time and musicals and I am interested in how you approach | :11:22. | :11:28. | |
comic timing. I never wanted to score the comedy. I always took it | :11:28. | :11:34. | |
very seriously. There is a lot of pious and religious music and I | :11:34. | :11:43. | |
scored it as if it was the most serious thing in the world. It is | :11:43. | :11:52. | |
so nicely shaped? # I am just a banana #. | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
What was it like he read your words in a song? Was it a shock? -- | :11:58. | :12:04. | |
hearing your words? I have made lyrics for songs before but it's | :12:04. | :12:10. | |
sort of, against the difference is that Dave is a proper musician, in | :12:10. | :12:16. | |
that he is a composer, where the music is written down, so it is | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
clever music rather than rock and roll, which is less so. I am an | :12:21. | :12:31. | |
exotic fruit! We meet you for the custard! We were keen to try to | :12:31. | :12:36. | |
avoid giving people expectations by calling it an opera or musical so | :12:36. | :12:41. | |
we could not really decide. As soon as we started, I knew that I did | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
not want to do it through a traditional opera means because it | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
is a particular kind of comedy and playing David's stuff that I did | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
not think would work. I thought it was an opera but I was speaking to | :12:55. | :13:01. | |
David finesse the and he said no, technically it is a melodrama. | :13:01. | :13:08. | |
is thought of an opera. I like that! Delightfully vague! Food and | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
opera is a great mix. I was interested in cookery being a | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
vehicle to examine a lot of dreams that I am quite interested in, like | :13:17. | :13:23. | |
the body and being eaten and other nasty things. Thankfully, there is | :13:23. | :13:30. | |
lots of nasty things in "past the spoon". The visual imagination | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
comes to live with the creation of mundane root vegetables and the | :13:35. | :13:44. | |
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knowledgeable Mr Banana. Lac de? Appeals now? God! Is he German or | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
something? Who do you think will see the show? Who will it appeal | :13:52. | :13:59. | |
to? Lovers of fruit and veg and all things edible. I suppose hopefully | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
there will be the people who like contemporary music and like David's | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
music and people who know David's visual work and I suppose you are | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
attracted to the quirkiness of that. If the rehearsals are anything to | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
go by, fans of all things quirky it will not be disappointed and I | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
can't help admiring the cartoonist's fearless approach to | :14:21. | :14:27. | |
the genre. David, how many operas have you seen? Nun, I have never | :14:27. | :14:33. | |
been to an opera. Musicals? Never been to a musical. Have you | :14:33. | :14:39. | |
been to gigs? Yes! I have seen music before. I do know what music | :14:39. | :14:47. | |
is, but no operas and musicals. I saw the Sound of Music. A glass of | :14:47. | :14:56. | |
sherry! A glass of cider! Shandy! Or some elderberry cordial! A glass | :14:56. | :15:06. | |
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From what I have seen it is a delightful show. It is surreal | :15:13. | :15:20. | |
without being alienating. And it is very funny. The thing is, comedy | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
opera are difficult. But I think there is a good collaboration here. | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
It seems warm and an interesting mix of people and they have a real | :15:29. | :15:39. | |
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chance of success. And Pass The Spoon will be performed in Glasgow | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
from 17th November. Next the worldwide web has been described as | :15:47. | :15:53. | |
the greatest serendipity engine in history, where we can make | :15:53. | :16:01. | |
surprising connections and discover coincidences. But Vicky Cristina | :16:01. | :16:11. | |
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Barcelona -- but Alec -- Aleks Krotoski finds it is anything but | :16:15. | :16:25. | |
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serendipitous. Serendipity? It is a happy coincidence. It means luck, | :16:27. | :16:35. | |
but good luck. I have no idea what it is. But I would like to have is | :16:35. | :16:42. | |
some - to have some. Serendipity, that delightful moment when totally | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
unrelated things come together in magical ways to change the course | :16:46. | :16:53. | |
of destiny. But I'm intrigued by the science behind it. What it is, | :16:53. | :17:00. | |
why it is important and why it is under threat as we try to replicate | :17:00. | :17:08. | |
it online. Serendipity is the essence of innovation. It is | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
inspiring and it is something that businesses want to distil so they | :17:11. | :17:17. | |
can capitalise on it. But can they? Is it possible to reduce something | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
that is so wrapped up in our life experiences and our humanity into | :17:23. | :17:33. | |
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something that can be predicted by a flow clart? -- chart. We have | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
relied on serendipitous encounters for new revelations. These can be | :17:39. | :17:46. | |
life changing like a new job or a lover. They can herald revolutions, | :17:46. | :17:52. | |
like the discovery of X-rays. Or they can become essential parts of | :17:52. | :18:02. | |
our worlds, like superglue. Serendipity has played a role in | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
advancing culture since time immemorial. In the past people have | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
confused it with fate, destiny, coincidence and religious | :18:11. | :18:17. | |
experience. All extraordinary attributes that ignore an essential | :18:17. | :18:25. | |
part - human involvement. But today the thing we're relying on to | :18:25. | :18:32. | |
provide our wind fall coincidences is the world wide web, that has | :18:32. | :18:38. | |
been called the greatest serendipity engine in history. Web | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
developers are offering us spwhruegs in the form of discovery | :18:41. | :18:47. | |
engines that introduce us to unexpected information, inspire us | :18:47. | :18:54. | |
to do, think or see something differently. Of course, any | :18:54. | :18:59. | |
serendipitous encounter they deliver means financial rewards. | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
The result? Serendipity has become a commodity. Google's chairman | :19:04. | :19:09. | |
announced last year that he wants the search engine to be a | :19:09. | :19:16. | |
serendipity engine. He want asthma sheen that will -- he wants a | :19:16. | :19:21. | |
machine that will answer all my questions. And based where I am | :19:21. | :19:26. | |
using the GPS on my mobile phone and the other information that it | :19:26. | :19:32. | |
has monitored from mail or from search or from photographs or | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
social networking, he reckons that he knows that I'm out with my | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
friend Kat on a Friday and that I like pub grub. So a well timed | :19:41. | :19:47. | |
message about a good pub over there would be delightful. And it would | :19:47. | :19:56. | |
be. But is it serendipitous? I don't think so. Computers make | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
connections that humans can't and they're valuable in reveals the | :20:01. | :20:07. | |
conjunction of places and ideas that we're unable to make. But the | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
web is just a massive memory bank a system in which information can be | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
stored for later, when the contextlet is right for having the | :20:15. | :20:25. | |
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insight to make connections. And this takes human involvement. Burr | :20:26. | :20:33. | |
there is more in what computer can't do. Discovery applications | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
decide what you will have access to, by crunching the data they have | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
corrected and -- collect and showing what will be relevant to | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
your interests. These filtders reduce chance encounters, by | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
serving up things the system thinks you will like for sure. They go for | :20:53. | :21:00. | |
easy wins, not the here -ish, now - ish or soon -ish stuff so you can | :21:00. | :21:08. | |
discover things you may not have discovered before. We're facing a | :21:08. | :21:14. | |
future in which the internet, the serendipity engine, is threatening | :21:14. | :21:20. | |
to kill off serendipity. We will never have the opportunity to bump | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
into something new, because machines are predicting our futures, | :21:24. | :21:33. | |
based on our past and creating a loop of cultural homogenization. | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
Technology can be part of the process. But are we ready to rely | :21:38. | :21:45. | |
on technology to progress society? Should we be giving up a quality | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
that makes us human and has advanced our culture, the wisdom to | :21:49. | :21:57. | |
make the connection and recognise the value ourselves to a machine? | :21:57. | :22:05. | |
Let's reclaim serendipity and keep our future in our own hands. Now | :22:05. | :22:15. | |
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when London won the Olympic bid a programme of the so-called Cultural | :22:16. | :22:21. | |
Olympiad was announced. And I have been talking to Ruth MacKenzie to | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
find out what we can expect. Justy country has their own way of | :22:27. | :22:33. | |
staging the Olympics, each one has their own way of show casing their | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
culture. Since 1952 a non- competitive of arts and culture has | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
been associated with each games. Since it was announced London would | :22:42. | :22:52. | |
host the Olympics, 97.6 million pounds has been awarded to projects | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
in the Cultural Olympiad. Influiding -- including the London | :22:56. | :23:02. | |
festival. It has been going for three years already and it is just | :23:02. | :23:08. | |
gearing up for 2012. It is appropriate in a way they chose the | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
London bus as their symbol, when you read their publicity, it is | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
clear what they're setting out to be is a kind of cultural bus | :23:15. | :23:20. | |
service for the nation. Chris crossing not only London, but all | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
the regions with a barrage of events from workshops to | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
exhibitions to plays and films. But as a cynic, I would ask whether | :23:30. | :23:36. | |
London needs this vast injection of cultural creativity. And what is it | :23:36. | :23:42. | |
exactly that we're getting for a truly remarkably large amount of | :23:42. | :23:50. | |
money? If I'm brutally honest, I live in London, apparently the | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
Cultural Olympiad has been going for three year, and if I hadn't | :23:54. | :24:00. | |
read your material, I wouldn't have noticed. You're not one of the 1.2 | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
million who came and danced as parts of the big dance? No. I'm | :24:04. | :24:10. | |
shocked and sad to hear that. seem to have been doing so many | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
different things, that people like me just haven't realised and put it | :24:13. | :24:19. | |
together that this is part of one event. I think our big chance is | :24:19. | :24:24. | |
the climax of the Cultural Olympiad, that is the London festival. We're | :24:24. | :24:30. | |
building up to this festival all over the UK and our challenge is to | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
pull everything together and show you the best of it and the best in | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
the world. But isn't Britain already culturally vibrant and | :24:39. | :24:47. | |
aren't a huge number of the events, wouldn't they take place any way | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
without the Olympiad. None of the commissions we have announced would | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
take place without the festival. The Royal Shakespeare Company and | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
the Globe are presenting a programme of Shakespeare done by | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
artists from all around the world. We're going to have the Iraqi | :25:03. | :25:08. | |
national theatre for the first time coming to do roim owe and Juliet | :25:08. | :25:13. | |
and we have actors from the South Sudan coming here. I find that | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
moving. We're going to have more artists from around the world doing | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
Shakespeare and sharing how it belongs to them as well as us. This | :25:20. | :25:27. | |
wouldn't happen in any other year. As well as over 1,000 events, | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
London 2012 will have an Olympic poster campaign. We have | :25:31. | :25:36. | |
commissioned 12 artists to make posters for the Paralympics and the | :25:36. | :25:42. | |
him pibs and you have got Howard Hodgkin and Martin Creed. Three of | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
the 12. That is one for the swimming Olympics? You can see | :25:47. | :25:52. | |
there that he has been inspired by swimming. That is fair. You can see | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
that Rachael has thought about the symbol of the Olympic, the rings, | :25:57. | :26:03. | |
but she talks about how for her this is about the memory of social | :26:03. | :26:09. | |
get togethers. So you could think about coffee mugs or glasses. And | :26:09. | :26:19. | |
Martin has thought about Podia. not a medal for the people who come | :26:19. | :26:24. | |
fifth? Tracy Emin has designed her poster for the par Olympics. It is | :26:24. | :26:29. | |
difficult to get your head around to do a poster. I kept thinking | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
what could I do? When they said would you do the Paralympics, then | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
I said yes. I have written you inspire me with your determination | :26:38. | :26:46. | |
and I love you. Then I used the Paralympic symbol. I don't like the | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
Olympic rings, I find them graphically difficult to deal with. | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
So I was pleased to have something which I found nice to draw. It is | :26:54. | :27:00. | |
not just the post hear the she is doing for London 2012. I'm doing a | :27:00. | :27:06. | |
solo show in Margate and I come from Margate and it is a big deal. | :27:06. | :27:14. | |
It is like the prodigal daughter returns. I'm showing two other | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
artists, Turner and Rodin. It is all erotic art. So not everyone | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
knows that Turner did a lot of erotic paintings and obviously | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
Rodin did. But much more raunchy, all people know is the Kiss, but | :27:30. | :27:37. | |
his other stuff was hard core. So I think there will be -- they will be | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
bringing that out and I will look a nice young lady in comparison. | :27:42. | :27:48. | |
Prince of the posters -- prints of the pofrsers are available to buy | :27:48. | :27:53. | |
on the festival web-site. -- posters. But you can be involved | :27:53. | :28:00. | |
without spending any money. On the July 27th, that is the opening day | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
of the Olympics, you're going to wake up, we hope, and join with | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
Martin Creed to create his largest ever piece. That will be bells. We | :28:09. | :28:16. | |
will ask you to ring bells all around the country. Bicycle bells, | :28:16. | :28:21. | |
church bells, there will be a down load for you phone. At a particular | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
time his work of art is everyone in Britain if you're awake, ring a | :28:25. | :28:32. | |
bell at this time on this day. Why is important that culture should be | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
part of this? We have 20 thousand journalists from around the world | :28:37. | :28:41. | |
and millions of tourists and millions more people watching on TV, | :28:42. | :28:48. | |
we want to show the creative world of the UK to its best. They say of | :28:48. | :28:52. | |
London that culture is to London as sun is to Spain. This is actually | :28:52. | :28:57. | |
really important to the economy of this country. And to the health and | :28:57. | :29:01. | |
wealthth of institution. We need to put on the best show we can. That | :29:01. | :29:06. | |
is all we're trying to do. You do a very good sell. But the truth is we | :29:06. | :29:11. | |
are much better at culture than we're at sport shush! We're going | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
to win many medals in sport and show that we're winners culture. | :29:14. | :29:21. | |
That is OK. That seems to be eto be a win-win. Still to come: Mark | :29:21. | :29:28. | |
Kermode on The Awakening and Alan yeb to be meets the king of high | :29:28. | :29:35. | |
street design, Sirte rans Conran. Next we have been hearing the | :29:35. | :29:41. | |
stories of buildings brought back by people who care for them and we | :29:41. | :29:46. | |
can reveal the wirns of the new Heritage Angels Awards heltd in | :29:46. | :29:56. | |
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London this week. -- held in London The big day has finally arrived. We | :29:57. | :30:02. | |
spent four weeks visiting 16 extraordinary groups of people | :30:02. | :30:07. | |
trying to save 16 buildings. They all deserve to win but only four | :30:07. | :30:13. | |
will. The host and champion of these awards is Andrew Lloyd Webber. | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
People around the country are investing huge amounts of time, and | :30:16. | :30:22. | |
their own money and they are unsung heroes. We need to preserve our | :30:22. | :30:27. | |
heritage badly and there are people who we take for granted, who are | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
doing exactly what the government ought to have been doing, so I | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
think to celebrate the extraordinary achievements of local | :30:34. | :30:40. | |
people, it is a very small thing to do but I think it is vital. It is | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
moment for humility by politicians and ministers because we tried to | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
solve the world's problems but when you speak to these people, you | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
realise the real problems are being sold by people in the grass roots | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
of stock the best rescue of an industrial building is the first | :30:54. | :31:00. | |
award. The first building on the shortlist is the magnificent | :31:00. | :31:05. | |
players fleapit in Mansfield. A gem of Britain's industrial past. -- | :31:05. | :31:13. | |
Pleasley Pit. Just down the road from Pleasley, best would colliery | :31:13. | :31:18. | |
in Nottinghamshire. In 1845, the great Victorian engineer Isambard | :31:18. | :31:23. | |
Kingdom Brunel built this goods shed on the outskirts of Stroud in | :31:23. | :31:28. | |
Gloucestershire. The third building up for the award. North Leverton | :31:28. | :31:33. | |
windmill, the final building competing, was built in 1813 by | :31:33. | :31:39. | |
five local farmers and has been in continuous use for nearly 200 years. | :31:39. | :31:48. | |
And the winners are the Friends of Pleasley Pit. It feels fantastic to | :31:48. | :31:53. | |
have won this amazing award. I feel so proud that all my volunteers | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
have seen after 15 years some recognition of their arduous work. | :31:58. | :32:05. | |
The next award category is for heritage at risk in general. | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
The first building inherited at risk category is Arnos Vale | :32:09. | :32:15. | |
Cemetery in Bristol. -- heritage at risk. The huge necropolis was | :32:15. | :32:23. | |
opened in 1839. The Ireland memorial cross in Staffordshire was | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
built in 1841 by a wealthy industrialist, J C Watts Russell, | :32:26. | :32:32. | |
in memory of his wife. The third building competing for the award is | :32:32. | :32:37. | |
the de concentrated Church of St Stephen's, Rosslyn Hill, in | :32:37. | :32:44. | |
Hampstead. Consider it to be the architect's masterpiece. The final | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
building is the Dome Cinema in a Sussex coastal town of Worthing, | :32:48. | :32:52. | |
which has hardly changed since it was built in 1911 as a plush | :32:52. | :32:56. | |
picture palace. They were all very strong candidate | :32:56. | :33:00. | |
and we were completely split between two, and after a lot of | :33:00. | :33:06. | |
heated debate, we decided that we have to award joint winners. Arnos | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
Vale Cemetery Trust, working together with Bristol City Council, | :33:10. | :33:17. | |
and St Stephen's Restoration of Preservation Trust. I am so proud | :33:17. | :33:24. | |
of Arnos Vale today. It is for everyone. It is fantastic. It is | :33:24. | :33:29. | |
wonderful to have had some public acknowledgement of 11 years of what | :33:29. | :33:34. | |
Churchill referred to as blood, toil, tears and sweat. It has been | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
but it is being used by the community now and that is the | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
important thing. The third angel is for best rescue of a place of | :33:41. | :33:46. | |
worship. The first building nominated in the place of worship | :33:46. | :33:50. | |
category is the Church of the Good Shepherd in Nottingham. Built in | :33:50. | :33:58. | |
1964, the Church's stained-glass it was Brown's great king -- ground- | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
breaking. The second entry, the Church of St Peter's in | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
Leicestershire, has hardly changed since it was built in the late 15th | :34:07. | :34:12. | |
century. It may have the honour of been mentioned in the Domesday Book, | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
but the third building up for the award also has an impressive | :34:15. | :34:21. | |
historic pedigree. The 12th century St James's Priory is thought to be | :34:21. | :34:26. | |
Bristol's oldest surviving building. The final building competing is the | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
former church of St Margaret of Antioch in the inner-city area of | :34:30. | :34:35. | |
Leeds. Not much to look at from the outside, but step inside and you | :34:35. | :34:44. | |
will be greeted by a wonderful sight. And the winner is... Left | :34:44. | :34:47. | |
Bank Leeds for the restoration of the former Church of St Margaret of | :34:48. | :34:54. | |
Antioch. I think everybody admitted that it may not be the most | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
beautiful exterior but it is big inside that counts. One of the | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
things that people always say when they walk in the building is wow! | :35:02. | :35:06. | |
And the next thing is normally to swear. And then say, what can we | :35:06. | :35:11. | |
do? Because it is a space that so many people have used in the last | :35:11. | :35:17. | |
few years. Thank you very much. In a world where it is hard to get | :35:17. | :35:23. | |
somebody put some tiling in your utility room, I am thrilled that I | :35:23. | :35:26. | |
am do on the shortlist for the best craftsmanship are employed on a | :35:26. | :35:32. | |
rescue. -- I am doing. Tyntesfield Orangery in North | :35:32. | :35:38. | |
Somerset was built in 1897 to house exotic plants and fruit. Today, an | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
army of stonemasons on the National Trust have been hard at work | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
restoring this handsome building. Another set of unique craft skills | :35:47. | :35:52. | |
came into play in the restoration of the second building shortlisted. | :35:52. | :35:58. | |
The 16th century Smythe Barn in Kent boasts a rare and stunning | :35:58. | :36:05. | |
roof, usually found in palaces. Next up is the once magnificent | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
fourteenth-century Hall in Worcester. To ensure this ancient | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
site survives into the next century, a team of stonemasons have been | :36:12. | :36:19. | |
hard at work, Suren it up for the nation. The final building | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
competing is Woodchester Mansion in Gloucestershire, which was | :36:22. | :36:28. | |
mysteriously abandoned amid construction in 1873. Now, thanks | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
to the Woodchester Mansion Trust, workers resumed on this beautiful | :36:31. | :36:38. | |
building. The winner of the craftsmanship award is Mr Graham | :36:38. | :36:43. | |
Forge, his son and the group for the Smythe Barn. It is a massive | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
pat on the back for all of the effort that we have done. It is | :36:47. | :36:51. | |
lovely to be awarded something that recognises how much effort we have | :36:51. | :36:57. | |
all put into it. What an exciting and enjoyable morning, not least | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
for the winners. This is the first year of the Heritage Awards and in | :37:01. | :37:07. | |
the future, I am looking forward to meeting many more Heritage Angels. | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
Next up, Sir Terence Conran bought Mossbourne design into drab and | :37:11. | :37:16. | |
dingy British households -- modern design. In doing so, he became a | :37:16. | :37:20. | |
household name himself. Few have had such a profound effect on the | :37:20. | :37:25. | |
look of our lifestyles. He has just turned 80 and to celebrate, the | :37:25. | :37:29. | |
Design Museum is holding an exhibition looking back at his | :37:29. | :37:39. | |
:37:39. | :37:42. | ||
extraordinary career. Alan Yentob Terence Conran has always been a | :37:42. | :37:47. | |
hero of mine. It was his passion for intelligent design which helped | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
transform the rather dowdy Britain of the 50s into a livelier, more | :37:51. | :37:56. | |
elegant and more colourful plates. Conran is much more than a designer, | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
a retailer or restaurateur, although he is all three of those. | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
He was a pioneer of what seemed like a sophisticated, civilised | :38:05. | :38:08. | |
lifestyle that he believed should be accessible and affordable to | :38:08. | :38:13. | |
just about everyone. It is a mission that has absorbed him for | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
over half a century and his employers and impact can still be | :38:16. | :38:26. | |
:38:26. | :38:29. | ||
You enticed us all into understanding design. You held our | :38:29. | :38:35. | |
hand. Let's face it, Britain was quite dowdy when you began and it | :38:35. | :38:41. | |
has taken half a century to get where we are now, which somehow has | :38:41. | :38:49. | |
embraced the dream he had. It is surprising to me, this, because I | :38:49. | :38:54. | |
worked on the Festival of Britain as an extremely young designer and | :38:54. | :39:01. | |
I saw the enormous enthusiasm that people had when they came to the | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
festival. If you looked around London at that time, endless bomb | :39:04. | :39:12. | |
sites, it was a miserable, Gray, rationed existence. Suddenly coming | :39:12. | :39:20. | |
to the Festival of Britain was light, colour, cheerfulness, | :39:20. | :39:28. | |
innovation, invention, a new architecture, shapes, and it gave | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
the British who went to it confidence that they were in the | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
right country at the right time. The British have always been rather | :39:37. | :39:42. | |
suspicious of the Continent, of the French. You love Paris, you love | :39:42. | :39:48. | |
France, you love cuisine, and now we have open-air cafes, there is | :39:48. | :39:53. | |
light streaming into your building. In their early 50s, I had a friend | :39:53. | :39:57. | |
called Michael Wickham who had been a condition last photographer and | :39:57. | :40:02. | |
he said to me, would you like to come on holiday and so we set off | :40:02. | :40:12. | |
:40:12. | :40:13. | ||
for France in his clapped-out car, and we managed to spend six weeks | :40:13. | :40:20. | |
eating in wonderful cafes, slipping in ditches, and this trip to France | :40:20. | :40:30. | |
:40:30. | :40:31. | ||
was enormously important to me. Especially, the Ironmongers shops, | :40:31. | :40:37. | |
you went into them, these wonderful, sturdy, kitchen equipment. Great | :40:37. | :40:45. | |
casseroles, wonderful ceramics, fantastic baskets. To me it all | :40:45. | :40:52. | |
added up to the sort of life that I wanted to live. As it turned out, | :40:52. | :40:56. | |
it was the sort of life that many of us wanted to live, although it | :40:56. | :41:01. | |
took Conran's vision to persuade us that this was the case. In 1964, he | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
opened a shop on the Fulham Road which was to blossom into perhaps | :41:06. | :41:13. | |
his greatest legacy. Habitat. don't just sell furniture but they | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
are also if taste supermarket. In this case, the furniture and the | :41:16. | :41:23. | |
taste a one-man's: Terence Conran. I have always been fascinated by | :41:23. | :41:28. | |
the below the stairs object of the Victorian era, which were made as | :41:28. | :41:33. | |
very useful, simple objects. The design of them probably really | :41:33. | :41:38. | |
wasn't considered as such, they had to do their job. His farmhouse | :41:38. | :41:42. | |
tables and enamel jugs entice the naturally Conservative Brits to | :41:42. | :41:47. | |
imagine they were revisiting the past. But his real genius lay in | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
presenting those objects side by side, with high desire from | :41:51. | :41:56. | |
Scandinavia and Italy. Pieces by contemporary designers, working in | :41:56. | :42:00. | |
plastic and chrome. As much as anything, conman was selling us | :42:00. | :42:07. | |
ideas about design. -- Terence Conran. You were trying to show | :42:07. | :42:12. | |
people how they could live rather than the way they did lives. What | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
Habitat was about, and I know you resist the would live start but I | :42:17. | :42:22. | |
mean it in a positive way. In other words, the quality of life -- | :42:22. | :42:28. | |
resist the word "lifestyle". Not just the chair we sit in but the | :42:28. | :42:35. | |
food we eat. How you make everyone a place we want to be in. For I | :42:35. | :42:41. | |
believe in easy living. A feeling that when you come home, there is | :42:41. | :42:47. | |
no formality, you can keep your shoes off, take your jacket off, | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
sit down on the sofa and put your feet up on it, read a book, watch | :42:52. | :43:02. | |
:43:02. | :43:02. | ||
the telly, have a drink and... I have always tried to create that | :43:02. | :43:08. | |
sort of relaxed atmosphere. isn't too fantastical to say that | :43:08. | :43:11. | |
Terence Conran was the reason most of us sleep under a duvet every | :43:11. | :43:16. | |
night. That many of us have open- plan homes, or for the garlic | :43:16. | :43:22. | |
presses, Wine Rack and pepper mills in our kitchens. His philosophy, | :43:22. | :43:27. | |
which seemed so radical in the 60s, had become the norm, and he | :43:27. | :43:32. | |
continues to design and make things today through his workshop, a | :43:32. | :43:38. | |
Benchmark. As the elder statesman of British design, he is naturally | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
concerned for the future of the industry and despite turning 80, | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
the always outspoken Terence Conran has no intention of bowing out | :43:46. | :43:52. | |
quietly. Do we undervalue the creative industry? I think one of | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
the things that Britain has achieved a really his reputation, | :43:55. | :44:00. | |
and much of it is to do with its design, its architecture, the | :44:00. | :44:07. | |
people it has produced. Yeah. I think it is undervalued by | :44:07. | :44:13. | |
government. Seriously undervalued. We have to create jobs, you know, | :44:13. | :44:22. | |
the easiest way to create jobs is by making things. We have simply | :44:22. | :44:28. | |
got to learn how to become a workshop again in this country and | :44:28. | :44:33. | |
make things. Fancy living in a country that doesn't make anything. | :44:33. | :44:42. | |
It is awful. Terence Conran, the Way We Live Now, is at the Design | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
Museum from November 16th until March fourth next year. Next, if | :44:46. | :44:51. | |
you are plotting or political power, what do you need to make it? Crowd- | :44:51. | :44:57. | |
pleasing Policies? A makeover? An attractive young family? That will | :44:57. | :45:02. | |
help but don't forget the latest weapon in the leader's' armoury, | :45:02. | :45:07. | |
publishing a personal memoir. Over the pond, the Republican hot shot | :45:07. | :45:11. | |
Michelle has her eye on the Oval Office and hence she is the latest | :45:11. | :45:15. | |
politician to put pen to paper. Journalist Anne McElvoy talks us | :45:15. | :45:25. | |
:45:25. | :45:32. | ||
Michelle Backman is the new Tea Party got ess of right-wing | :45:32. | :45:38. | |
politics. In other words, she is the new Sara Palin. Just without | :45:38. | :45:42. | |
the natural restraint and liberal tendencies. I think that people | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
across the United States are not happy with President Obama's | :45:46. | :45:52. | |
policies and I think it is likely he will be a one-term president. | :45:52. | :45:57. | |
She is intent on challenging Barack Obama and as public opinion goes | :45:58. | :46:03. | |
cold on the cool liberal guy, that is a big opportunity. So what does | :46:03. | :46:09. | |
a fledgling member of congress need to reach out to a wider audience? | :46:09. | :46:18. | |
She is deploying the weapon of a thumping great memoir with a states | :46:18. | :46:25. | |
womanly image on the cover. You are no one in American politics without | :46:25. | :46:30. | |
an autobiography laying out your view of the world. Modern | :46:30. | :46:36. | |
campaigning is about selling a story. The game changer was Obama's | :46:36. | :46:42. | |
Dreams For My Father. It was written before his career began and | :46:42. | :46:50. | |
it has a refreshing honesty. Two things not always associated | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
politicians. Can I not honestly say the voice in this book is not mine. | :46:55. | :46:59. | |
But I would tell the story differently today. Even if certain | :46:59. | :47:05. | |
passages have been inconvenient politicaly. What this book she'd | :47:05. | :47:14. | |
touching life story could reach people who don't read big tomes and | :47:14. | :47:21. | |
he even confessed to teenage drug abuse. But many people are writing | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
memoirs before they achieve anything. So what is the point? | :47:25. | :47:30. | |
Beside pegging her to a set of values, it is a chance to be on the | :47:30. | :47:38. | |
chat shows and have acres of press coverage, even from detractors, | :47:38. | :47:48. | |
:47:48. | :47:52. | ||
such as Jon Stewart. That is... The guy... Teaching people not to be | :47:52. | :47:56. | |
gay? Of course Obama was not the first politician to discover the | :47:56. | :48:02. | |
memoir as a campaign tool. Winston Churchill penned his self-portrait, | :48:02. | :48:08. | |
my early life, to rise up the ranks and show his if theness to -- | :48:08. | :48:17. | |
fitness to lead. So did Adolf Hitler and Ronald Regan. Campaigns | :48:17. | :48:23. | |
of the field in which interests clash intrigue us as events move to | :48:23. | :48:33. | |
:48:33. | :48:33. | ||
the final show down. Tensions break out and stuff just happens. In | :48:33. | :48:37. | |
Britain though political insiders tend to wait until they have | :48:37. | :48:41. | |
achieved something before spilling the beans. In recent years we have | :48:41. | :48:47. | |
had a slew of memoirs from the New Labour in crowd about life at the | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
top. It wasn't the politics that appealed, it was the boldness, | :48:51. | :48:56. | |
people talked about it for years. Here was a new leader, telling me | :48:56. | :49:00. | |
he was thinking about doing it in his first conference speech. Bold. | :49:00. | :49:04. | |
I said, I hope you do it. Because it's bold. Important thing about | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
the accounts by the big hitters is they rarely concede that a lot of | :49:09. | :49:14. | |
it was a waste of time or a cock up. Vindication is the name of the game | :49:14. | :49:20. | |
with a twist of revenge. The hope was we would trip up and I would | :49:20. | :49:25. | |
lose my head by some trick of fate the mood of the public would switch. | :49:25. | :49:32. | |
It was never going to happen. everyone of these accounts is a | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
feat of self congratulations. Politicians aren't into that, as we | :49:36. | :49:44. | |
know. There is a school of memoir writing that is devoted to failure | :49:44. | :49:53. | |
and what it feels like. From Labour's glody Chris Mullin to the | :49:53. | :49:59. | |
old right-wing Alan Clarke. Department of Employment, Wednesday, | :49:59. | :50:08. | |
15th June, she has a pale skin and large eyes, her blonde hair is gamy | :50:08. | :50:12. | |
and short her sexuality tightly controlled. She makes plain her | :50:12. | :50:17. | |
feelings on several accounts, without expressing them. One that | :50:17. | :50:22. | |
I'm an uncouth lout, two that it is a mystery why I have been made a | :50:22. | :50:28. | |
minister. The joy of the memoir is that it is weapon, a diversion and | :50:28. | :50:33. | |
an execution and often absurd. But it is telling. The reason I like | :50:33. | :50:37. | |
them, they give us a glimpse into the events of people who shaped our | :50:37. | :50:43. | |
course. Are they self serve something of course. If you want to | :50:43. | :50:51. | |
sniff the air of another era, there is no better way. Michelle | :50:51. | :50:55. | |
Backman's memoir is published on 21st November. For those who like | :50:55. | :51:01. | |
to be terrified, one of this autumn's key releases will be The | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
Awakening, a new British thriller that had its premiere last week. | :51:06. | :51:16. | |
:51:16. | :51:29. | ||
Mark Kermode has been talking to Rebecca harl is becoming one of the | :51:29. | :51:35. | |
UK's most in demand actresss, The Awakening is a chiller set in | :51:35. | :51:41. | |
postWorld War one Britain and she has made a career out of exposing | :51:41. | :51:51. | |
:51:51. | :51:55. | ||
psychic fraudsters. Welcome to the show. You have been nominated for | :51:55. | :52:01. | |
an independent film award. You have had nominations before. You won a | :52:01. | :52:05. | |
BAFTA. Let's talk about The Awakening, has there been a return | :52:05. | :52:09. | |
to that kind of classic horror? People seem to have decided they | :52:09. | :52:17. | |
want something different from their chillers? The truth is that that | :52:17. | :52:22. | |
these type of genre movies and everyone makes a face when you say | :52:22. | :52:29. | |
that. Not me. I just don't think it is. Often the point of the films | :52:29. | :52:35. | |
that take you know extreme situations is to say something more | :52:35. | :52:42. | |
simple and humane. And often it is easier to tell, to get to the meat | :52:42. | :52:47. | |
of that through being elliptical and going through it the other way | :52:47. | :52:54. | |
and using a genre. I often find it illuminates things. What is the | :52:54. | :52:59. | |
scariest film you saw? Probably Don't Look Now. But it is a strange | :52:59. | :53:04. | |
one. I was home alone as a kid, I was about 12, rifling through my | :53:04. | :53:10. | |
dad's video collection and put on Don't Look New As a 12 or 13-year- | :53:10. | :53:15. | |
old. Perhaps not the best. I call that bad parenting. No. My parents | :53:15. | :53:23. | |
would say not. Good parenting. The opening to cultures. Expose | :53:23. | :53:27. | |
yourself to one of the scariest films. I didn't know what I was in | :53:27. | :53:32. | |
for. I kept watching. There is a connection, because it is about | :53:33. | :53:40. | |
loss and the centre of the Awakening, it is seen through the | :53:40. | :53:45. | |
eyes of your character. Yes. I don't look at the script and think, | :53:45. | :53:51. | |
you know, oh grieving, that is a great way to tell a ghost story. I | :53:51. | :53:57. | |
thought a gors story is a good way to talk about grief. You use | :53:57. | :54:05. | |
something to address something else. What is that? She began with film | :54:05. | :54:11. | |
like The Prestige and went to Frost/Nixon and working with Woody | :54:11. | :54:15. | |
Allen in Vicky Cristina Barcelona. He keeps looking over. You keep | :54:15. | :54:21. | |
provoking contact. "M at. You have been throwing looks al at him. | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
story with Woody Allen he said can you do an American accent, fine | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
you're in? That is true. Really? Yes it sounds fan fast Tall -- fan | :54:32. | :54:37. | |
tastical. He didn't even see my face. It was winter and I was | :54:37. | :54:42. | |
wearing a hat and had a scarf. There was about this much of my | :54:42. | :54:46. | |
face showing. I was trying to disrobe, not entirely, but within | :54:46. | :54:54. | |
reason. Before I had got to the hat, he just said, can you do an | :54:54. | :54:57. | |
American accent. I have spoken to people who have been directed by | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
him and say he is very, he stands back and lets you do it and give | :55:02. | :55:07. | |
you a bit. What is that like? true. If anything he is a bit | :55:07. | :55:12. | |
more... He can be even more irrefr rent with his own material and I | :55:12. | :55:17. | |
found that scary. He would say, do it again, put it in your own words, | :55:17. | :55:22. | |
say what you want. I would say, you're kidding mairs, you're Woody | :55:22. | :55:32. | |
:55:32. | :55:33. | ||
Allen. I can't put it into my words. She is a mental teenager and she | :55:33. | :55:41. | |
has a death wish. So for a brief moment of passion she abandons all | :55:41. | :55:50. | |
responsibilities. What is it like working with Christopher Nolan? | :55:50. | :55:55. | |
is extraordinary. I didn't, well I was green when I meat The Prestige. | :55:55. | :56:01. | |
It was my first film and I had never been to Hollywood before. He | :56:01. | :56:07. | |
cast me on the basis of a tape I made on my dodgy video recorder in | :56:07. | :56:12. | |
my bedroom. So I didn't know it was. What was on the tape? A scene from | :56:12. | :56:21. | |
the movie. It was like, you auditioning on your own? Yes it was | :56:21. | :56:25. | |
with a mate reading behind the cam RSPCA I wasn't doing both parts. | :56:25. | :56:35. | |
:56:35. | :56:35. | ||
And just flipping my head. What do you want from me? I... I want... I | :56:35. | :56:45. | |
:56:45. | :56:49. | ||
want you to be... Honest with me. No tricks. No lies. And no... | :56:49. | :56:53. | |
Secrets. You paint and you have been talking about directing and | :56:53. | :56:58. | |
having confidence in something like Christopher Nolan, you have a | :56:58. | :57:04. | |
creative vent, are you going to direct? Yeah, it is terrible being | :57:04. | :57:09. | |
an actor, people ask you that. Sorry I meant it in a good way. | :57:09. | :57:14. | |
is great, but if I say it now, then I'm going to have to come good on | :57:14. | :57:21. | |
it. Would you like to. When your being directed. I'm being | :57:21. | :57:25. | |
faseeshous, but I would like. have a project that you would like | :57:25. | :57:33. | |
to direct? Maybe. Is ate genre project? I don't know yet. It is | :57:33. | :57:40. | |
early days. OK. And The Awakening is on release from end of next week. | :57:40. | :57:45. | |
This has been the last of our regular programmes, but you can see | :57:45. | :57:50. | |
a special on Armistice Day, the 11th November at 7pm. Art for | :57:50. | :57:54. | |
heroes look at how ex-servicemen suffering from post-traumatic | :57:54. | :58:01. | |
stress are using art to help heal themselves. We leave you tonight | :58:01. | :58:05. | |
with the Fleet Foxes, the American folk band are in the UK next month. | :58:05. | :58:11. | |
But now here is a TV exclusive of a new animation made to accompany a | :58:11. | :58:21. | |
:58:21. | :58:31. |