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Hello and welcome to the Culture Show from Glasgow. This week we are

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experiencing an unconventional opera, pondering the political

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memoir, seeing a skier remove the and honouring the octogenarian King

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of British design -- seen a scary movie. Coming up tonight: Mark

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Wallinger meets an artist. The Way We Live Now. Sir Terence Conran

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talks to Alan Yentob. Someone living in the country and

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doesn't make anything, it is awful. I get the latest on the Cultural

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Olympiad. And online expert Aleks Krotoski

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explains why search results are not as serendipitous as this theme.

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Also tonight: David did his art for opera.

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And Racal boy ponders the importance of the Personal memoir

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when playing for political power. Mark Kermode talks to Rebecca Hall,

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stock of The Awakening. And we reveal the winning buildings

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in this year's Heritage Angel Awards.

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First tonight, Mark one danger is one of Britain's best-known and

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most played for contemporary artists. He has called the public

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imagination with works as diverse as a statue of Jesus Christ, a

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perfect replica of the Iraq war protests of Brian Haw, and a

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performance piece in which he dressed up as a bear. A new book

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has been published about Mark, so Alastair went to meet him.

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During the summer of 2010, and mysterious set of graffiti began to

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appear across London. From Clapham to Camden, each tag was the same.

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Mark. Always the same size, always placed in the middle of a brick in

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unremarkable locations. It turns out that the tax were up by the

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Turner prize-winning artists Mark Wallinger, and he has evolved into

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one of Britain's most unconventional artists. He works in

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painting, video, sculpture and performance and his pieces can be

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very personal, profound, highly political but also with a lightness

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of touch. He can be really funny. He is the only artist I can think

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of who has made a piece that involves dressing up as a bear. I

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met up with Mark to try to find one of his tax. There is one here! Your

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handiwork! For parents or stupidity that kept me from fully utilising

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the punning potential of my name. Something to do with the urban

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experience as well, anonymity, and trying to make a mark, be an

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individual, but that is lost as a gesture of one brick among the

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billions within London. How many have you done? Well over 2000. They

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range from Clapham Junction to Shoreditch, makes their to the Old

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Kent Road, and yet -- Mayfair. has become an obsession? I was

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caught in the act was and this guy said, your name is all over town

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and that was nice, because I did hope it would creep up on people.

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Mark will ensure's art has always been diverse. His series of

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portraits of the capital highlighted the problem of

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homelessness in London. He was the first artist to make a work for the

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Fourth Plinth in Trafalgar Square in 1999. In 2004, he spent 10

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consecutive nights dressed as a bear in Berlin's Museum of Modern

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Art. He won the Turner Prize in 2007 for a reconstruction of the

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late anti-war protester Brian Haw's peace camp, which stood outside

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Westminster from 2001 up to 2006. If you think back over you can read,

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it is quite hard to pin down what you do as an artist -- over your

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career. Why have you almost consciously resisted creating your

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own signature style? Originally, I would define myself as a painter

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and once I opened my mind to other media and what those things had

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inherent within them, the possibilities of those, then I

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suppose that it did seem very liberating. In the 90s, when you

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started working with different media, including video, you

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introduced religion and faith as an explicit part of the work. Perhaps

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the best-known example is "this man". Why would you suddenly so

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drawn to creating is overtly religious imagery? Two factors. The

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history of Christian art really, Westernised, but the other thing

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was the rise of fundamentalism and that made me think about how much

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the residue of Christianity in a pretty secular society, how much it

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still chimes. There is a lovely connection in the book of the one

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man in Trafalgar Square and another lone man in a bid from square of

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national importance in London, Brian Haw in Parliament Square.

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That protest inspired State Britain. Why were Brian Haw's actions so

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compelling? Above all else, it was the power of the document that he

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was unfolding. He was shaming and lot of people, not just the

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government. There had been one huge protest before we went to war and

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then everybody seems to go home. I was photographing his things got a

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couple of years just because I thought it was a remarkable thing.

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You've got to know him? I got to know him when I knew I was going to

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propose it, yes, and he let me take 800 photographs. On 22nd May, I

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took a couple of curators to the square and said that a proposed to

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remake Brighton's protest, and that very night, 78 policemen came and

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took it away. Really? Yeah. spent time in Berlin and famously

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you dressed up in a best suit when you were there. Aid there is a

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symbol of Berlin. It was called Sleep but. -- the bear is a symbol

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of Berlin. How important is it that your work always has some wit and

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lightness? I don't like pretentious finger poking work. I was not going

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to do any impressions, I was going to be a guy dressed up as a bed but

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there needs to be enough motivation and motor energy and there were

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enough people always outside that I could interact with or play with.

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It was only really on very few occasions where there was no one

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there at all and that became quite a strange, meditative moment.

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would love to ask you about a much more recent piece that is as yet

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unrealised. The horse that you may yet erect in Kent. Tell me a little

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bit about that. It will be a 50 metres high, a white horse, with

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the steel superstructure and a cement finish over concrete, and

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hopefully it will be at Ebbsfleet, where the chalk of the North Downs

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runs into the Thames estuary and that led me to think about hillside

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figures made of chalk and it interested me that it is kind of on

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that road that is in and out of Europe and the rest of the world.

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You would see it on the Eurostar? Yes, and the motorway, so it is

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both of this country and of that relationship with the wider world

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and history. Any sense of when we will see the White Horse? I hope

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there will be some good news on that coming up in the not-too-

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distant future. After the Olympics? Yeah. And the book Marked by Martin

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Herbert is out now. David is a hugely popular visual

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artist who deals with the so real and the daft. Now he has turned his

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hand to opera, collaborating with Nicholas Bone and they need they be

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saying -- David Fennessey. He has come up with an opera inspired by

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TV cookery shows. We went to find out more.

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This is an opera about food. It is a really good subject for an opera

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and I wish I had thought a bit myself, but I know from experience

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how difficult it is to get this kind of show right. But the process

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SINGING. # Super #.

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Pass this boom is set in the world of daytime television, a cookery

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programme where the chefs have to create a special meal to entertain

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a different guest every week. In this episode, they are planning

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what will be on the menu but then Mr Banana start to question their

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ingredients. Banana custard? Ride from the start, the creators of

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"pass of the spoon" insisted on using the finest ingredients. The

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composer and director made the decision to come to someone else

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before the operetta. It is not for a dramatist and poet so there is

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David Trickey's work and mind and a lot of the time we are grinding

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together against each other. We are not always been the same direction

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and that was deliberate. We set up this slightly opposing world.

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Fennessey is a serious composer, who has written four symphony

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orchestras and string quartet. David treacly is known for his

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offbeat drawings and animations. have written a few comic operas in

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my time and musicals and I am interested in how you approach

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comic timing. I never wanted to score the comedy. I always took it

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very seriously. There is a lot of pious and religious music and I

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scored it as if it was the most serious thing in the world. It is

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so nicely shaped? # I am just a banana #.

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What was it like he read your words in a song? Was it a shock? --

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hearing your words? I have made lyrics for songs before but it's

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sort of, against the difference is that Dave is a proper musician, in

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that he is a composer, where the music is written down, so it is

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clever music rather than rock and roll, which is less so. I am an

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exotic fruit! We meet you for the custard! We were keen to try to

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avoid giving people expectations by calling it an opera or musical so

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we could not really decide. As soon as we started, I knew that I did

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not want to do it through a traditional opera means because it

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is a particular kind of comedy and playing David's stuff that I did

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not think would work. I thought it was an opera but I was speaking to

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David finesse the and he said no, technically it is a melodrama.

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is thought of an opera. I like that! Delightfully vague! Food and

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opera is a great mix. I was interested in cookery being a

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vehicle to examine a lot of dreams that I am quite interested in, like

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the body and being eaten and other nasty things. Thankfully, there is

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lots of nasty things in "past the spoon". The visual imagination

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comes to live with the creation of mundane root vegetables and the

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knowledgeable Mr Banana. Lac de? Appeals now? God! Is he German or

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something? Who do you think will see the show? Who will it appeal

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to? Lovers of fruit and veg and all things edible. I suppose hopefully

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there will be the people who like contemporary music and like David's

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music and people who know David's visual work and I suppose you are

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attracted to the quirkiness of that. If the rehearsals are anything to

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go by, fans of all things quirky it will not be disappointed and I

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can't help admiring the cartoonist's fearless approach to

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the genre. David, how many operas have you seen? Nun, I have never

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been to an opera. Musicals? Never been to a musical. Have you

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been to gigs? Yes! I have seen music before. I do know what music

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is, but no operas and musicals. I saw the Sound of Music. A glass of

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sherry! A glass of cider! Shandy! Or some elderberry cordial! A glass

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From what I have seen it is a delightful show. It is surreal

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without being alienating. And it is very funny. The thing is, comedy

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opera are difficult. But I think there is a good collaboration here.

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It seems warm and an interesting mix of people and they have a real

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chance of success. And Pass The Spoon will be performed in Glasgow

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from 17th November. Next the worldwide web has been described as

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the greatest serendipity engine in history, where we can make

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surprising connections and discover coincidences. But Vicky Cristina

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Barcelona -- but Alec -- Aleks Krotoski finds it is anything but

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serendipitous. Serendipity? It is a happy coincidence. It means luck,

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but good luck. I have no idea what it is. But I would like to have is

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some - to have some. Serendipity, that delightful moment when totally

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unrelated things come together in magical ways to change the course

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of destiny. But I'm intrigued by the science behind it. What it is,

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why it is important and why it is under threat as we try to replicate

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it online. Serendipity is the essence of innovation. It is

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inspiring and it is something that businesses want to distil so they

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can capitalise on it. But can they? Is it possible to reduce something

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that is so wrapped up in our life experiences and our humanity into

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something that can be predicted by a flow clart? -- chart. We have

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relied on serendipitous encounters for new revelations. These can be

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life changing like a new job or a lover. They can herald revolutions,

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like the discovery of X-rays. Or they can become essential parts of

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our worlds, like superglue. Serendipity has played a role in

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advancing culture since time immemorial. In the past people have

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confused it with fate, destiny, coincidence and religious

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experience. All extraordinary attributes that ignore an essential

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part - human involvement. But today the thing we're relying on to

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provide our wind fall coincidences is the world wide web, that has

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been called the greatest serendipity engine in history. Web

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developers are offering us spwhruegs in the form of discovery

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engines that introduce us to unexpected information, inspire us

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to do, think or see something differently. Of course, any

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serendipitous encounter they deliver means financial rewards.

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The result? Serendipity has become a commodity. Google's chairman

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announced last year that he wants the search engine to be a

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serendipity engine. He want asthma sheen that will -- he wants a

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machine that will answer all my questions. And based where I am

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using the GPS on my mobile phone and the other information that it

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has monitored from mail or from search or from photographs or

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social networking, he reckons that he knows that I'm out with my

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friend Kat on a Friday and that I like pub grub. So a well timed

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message about a good pub over there would be delightful. And it would

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be. But is it serendipitous? I don't think so. Computers make

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connections that humans can't and they're valuable in reveals the

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conjunction of places and ideas that we're unable to make. But the

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web is just a massive memory bank a system in which information can be

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stored for later, when the contextlet is right for having the

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insight to make connections. And this takes human involvement. Burr

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there is more in what computer can't do. Discovery applications

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decide what you will have access to, by crunching the data they have

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corrected and -- collect and showing what will be relevant to

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your interests. These filtders reduce chance encounters, by

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serving up things the system thinks you will like for sure. They go for

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easy wins, not the here -ish, now - ish or soon -ish stuff so you can

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discover things you may not have discovered before. We're facing a

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future in which the internet, the serendipity engine, is threatening

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to kill off serendipity. We will never have the opportunity to bump

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into something new, because machines are predicting our futures,

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based on our past and creating a loop of cultural homogenization.

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Technology can be part of the process. But are we ready to rely

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on technology to progress society? Should we be giving up a quality

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that makes us human and has advanced our culture, the wisdom to

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make the connection and recognise the value ourselves to a machine?

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Let's reclaim serendipity and keep our future in our own hands. Now

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when London won the Olympic bid a programme of the so-called Cultural

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Olympiad was announced. And I have been talking to Ruth MacKenzie to

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find out what we can expect. Justy country has their own way of

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staging the Olympics, each one has their own way of show casing their

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culture. Since 1952 a non- competitive of arts and culture has

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been associated with each games. Since it was announced London would

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host the Olympics, 97.6 million pounds has been awarded to projects

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in the Cultural Olympiad. Influiding -- including the London

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festival. It has been going for three years already and it is just

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gearing up for 2012. It is appropriate in a way they chose the

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London bus as their symbol, when you read their publicity, it is

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clear what they're setting out to be is a kind of cultural bus

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service for the nation. Chris crossing not only London, but all

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the regions with a barrage of events from workshops to

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exhibitions to plays and films. But as a cynic, I would ask whether

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London needs this vast injection of cultural creativity. And what is it

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exactly that we're getting for a truly remarkably large amount of

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money? If I'm brutally honest, I live in London, apparently the

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Cultural Olympiad has been going for three year, and if I hadn't

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read your material, I wouldn't have noticed. You're not one of the 1.2

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million who came and danced as parts of the big dance? No. I'm

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shocked and sad to hear that. seem to have been doing so many

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different things, that people like me just haven't realised and put it

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together that this is part of one event. I think our big chance is

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the climax of the Cultural Olympiad, that is the London festival. We're

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building up to this festival all over the UK and our challenge is to

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pull everything together and show you the best of it and the best in

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the world. But isn't Britain already culturally vibrant and

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aren't a huge number of the events, wouldn't they take place any way

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without the Olympiad. None of the commissions we have announced would

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take place without the festival. The Royal Shakespeare Company and

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the Globe are presenting a programme of Shakespeare done by

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artists from all around the world. We're going to have the Iraqi

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national theatre for the first time coming to do roim owe and Juliet

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and we have actors from the South Sudan coming here. I find that

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moving. We're going to have more artists from around the world doing

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Shakespeare and sharing how it belongs to them as well as us. This

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wouldn't happen in any other year. As well as over 1,000 events,

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London 2012 will have an Olympic poster campaign. We have

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commissioned 12 artists to make posters for the Paralympics and the

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him pibs and you have got Howard Hodgkin and Martin Creed. Three of

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the 12. That is one for the swimming Olympics? You can see

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there that he has been inspired by swimming. That is fair. You can see

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that Rachael has thought about the symbol of the Olympic, the rings,

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but she talks about how for her this is about the memory of social

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get togethers. So you could think about coffee mugs or glasses. And

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Martin has thought about Podia. not a medal for the people who come

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fifth? Tracy Emin has designed her poster for the par Olympics. It is

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difficult to get your head around to do a poster. I kept thinking

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what could I do? When they said would you do the Paralympics, then

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I said yes. I have written you inspire me with your determination

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and I love you. Then I used the Paralympic symbol. I don't like the

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Olympic rings, I find them graphically difficult to deal with.

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So I was pleased to have something which I found nice to draw. It is

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not just the post hear the she is doing for London 2012. I'm doing a

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solo show in Margate and I come from Margate and it is a big deal.

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It is like the prodigal daughter returns. I'm showing two other

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artists, Turner and Rodin. It is all erotic art. So not everyone

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knows that Turner did a lot of erotic paintings and obviously

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Rodin did. But much more raunchy, all people know is the Kiss, but

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his other stuff was hard core. So I think there will be -- they will be

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bringing that out and I will look a nice young lady in comparison.

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Prince of the posters -- prints of the pofrsers are available to buy

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on the festival web-site. -- posters. But you can be involved

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without spending any money. On the July 27th, that is the opening day

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of the Olympics, you're going to wake up, we hope, and join with

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Martin Creed to create his largest ever piece. That will be bells. We

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will ask you to ring bells all around the country. Bicycle bells,

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church bells, there will be a down load for you phone. At a particular

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time his work of art is everyone in Britain if you're awake, ring a

:28:25.:28:32.

bell at this time on this day. Why is important that culture should be

:28:32.:28:37.

part of this? We have 20 thousand journalists from around the world

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and millions of tourists and millions more people watching on TV,

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we want to show the creative world of the UK to its best. They say of

:28:48.:28:52.

London that culture is to London as sun is to Spain. This is actually

:28:52.:28:57.

really important to the economy of this country. And to the health and

:28:57.:29:01.

wealthth of institution. We need to put on the best show we can. That

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is all we're trying to do. You do a very good sell. But the truth is we

:29:06.:29:11.

are much better at culture than we're at sport shush! We're going

:29:11.:29:14.

to win many medals in sport and show that we're winners culture.

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That is OK. That seems to be eto be a win-win. Still to come: Mark

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Kermode on The Awakening and Alan yeb to be meets the king of high

:29:28.:29:35.

street design, Sirte rans Conran. Next we have been hearing the

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stories of buildings brought back by people who care for them and we

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can reveal the wirns of the new Heritage Angels Awards heltd in

:29:46.:29:56.
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London this week. -- held in London The big day has finally arrived. We

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spent four weeks visiting 16 extraordinary groups of people

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trying to save 16 buildings. They all deserve to win but only four

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will. The host and champion of these awards is Andrew Lloyd Webber.

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People around the country are investing huge amounts of time, and

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their own money and they are unsung heroes. We need to preserve our

:30:22.:30:27.

heritage badly and there are people who we take for granted, who are

:30:27.:30:31.

doing exactly what the government ought to have been doing, so I

:30:31.:30:34.

think to celebrate the extraordinary achievements of local

:30:34.:30:40.

people, it is a very small thing to do but I think it is vital. It is

:30:40.:30:43.

moment for humility by politicians and ministers because we tried to

:30:43.:30:47.

solve the world's problems but when you speak to these people, you

:30:47.:30:51.

realise the real problems are being sold by people in the grass roots

:30:51.:30:54.

of stock the best rescue of an industrial building is the first

:30:54.:31:00.

award. The first building on the shortlist is the magnificent

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players fleapit in Mansfield. A gem of Britain's industrial past. --

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Pleasley Pit. Just down the road from Pleasley, best would colliery

:31:13.:31:18.

in Nottinghamshire. In 1845, the great Victorian engineer Isambard

:31:18.:31:23.

Kingdom Brunel built this goods shed on the outskirts of Stroud in

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Gloucestershire. The third building up for the award. North Leverton

:31:28.:31:33.

windmill, the final building competing, was built in 1813 by

:31:33.:31:39.

five local farmers and has been in continuous use for nearly 200 years.

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And the winners are the Friends of Pleasley Pit. It feels fantastic to

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have won this amazing award. I feel so proud that all my volunteers

:31:53.:31:58.

have seen after 15 years some recognition of their arduous work.

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The next award category is for heritage at risk in general.

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The first building inherited at risk category is Arnos Vale

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Cemetery in Bristol. -- heritage at risk. The huge necropolis was

:32:15.:32:23.

opened in 1839. The Ireland memorial cross in Staffordshire was

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built in 1841 by a wealthy industrialist, J C Watts Russell,

:32:26.:32:32.

in memory of his wife. The third building competing for the award is

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the de concentrated Church of St Stephen's, Rosslyn Hill, in

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Hampstead. Consider it to be the architect's masterpiece. The final

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building is the Dome Cinema in a Sussex coastal town of Worthing,

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which has hardly changed since it was built in 1911 as a plush

:32:52.:32:56.

picture palace. They were all very strong candidate

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and we were completely split between two, and after a lot of

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heated debate, we decided that we have to award joint winners. Arnos

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Vale Cemetery Trust, working together with Bristol City Council,

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and St Stephen's Restoration of Preservation Trust. I am so proud

:33:17.:33:24.

of Arnos Vale today. It is for everyone. It is fantastic. It is

:33:24.:33:29.

wonderful to have had some public acknowledgement of 11 years of what

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Churchill referred to as blood, toil, tears and sweat. It has been

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but it is being used by the community now and that is the

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important thing. The third angel is for best rescue of a place of

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worship. The first building nominated in the place of worship

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category is the Church of the Good Shepherd in Nottingham. Built in

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1964, the Church's stained-glass it was Brown's great king -- ground-

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breaking. The second entry, the Church of St Peter's in

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Leicestershire, has hardly changed since it was built in the late 15th

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century. It may have the honour of been mentioned in the Domesday Book,

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but the third building up for the award also has an impressive

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historic pedigree. The 12th century St James's Priory is thought to be

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Bristol's oldest surviving building. The final building competing is the

:34:26.:34:30.

former church of St Margaret of Antioch in the inner-city area of

:34:30.:34:35.

Leeds. Not much to look at from the outside, but step inside and you

:34:35.:34:44.

will be greeted by a wonderful sight. And the winner is... Left

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Bank Leeds for the restoration of the former Church of St Margaret of

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Antioch. I think everybody admitted that it may not be the most

:34:54.:34:58.

beautiful exterior but it is big inside that counts. One of the

:34:58.:35:02.

things that people always say when they walk in the building is wow!

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And the next thing is normally to swear. And then say, what can we

:35:06.:35:11.

do? Because it is a space that so many people have used in the last

:35:11.:35:17.

few years. Thank you very much. In a world where it is hard to get

:35:17.:35:23.

somebody put some tiling in your utility room, I am thrilled that I

:35:23.:35:26.

am do on the shortlist for the best craftsmanship are employed on a

:35:26.:35:32.

rescue. -- I am doing. Tyntesfield Orangery in North

:35:32.:35:38.

Somerset was built in 1897 to house exotic plants and fruit. Today, an

:35:38.:35:42.

army of stonemasons on the National Trust have been hard at work

:35:42.:35:47.

restoring this handsome building. Another set of unique craft skills

:35:47.:35:52.

came into play in the restoration of the second building shortlisted.

:35:52.:35:58.

The 16th century Smythe Barn in Kent boasts a rare and stunning

:35:58.:36:05.

roof, usually found in palaces. Next up is the once magnificent

:36:05.:36:08.

fourteenth-century Hall in Worcester. To ensure this ancient

:36:08.:36:12.

site survives into the next century, a team of stonemasons have been

:36:12.:36:19.

hard at work, Suren it up for the nation. The final building

:36:19.:36:22.

competing is Woodchester Mansion in Gloucestershire, which was

:36:22.:36:28.

mysteriously abandoned amid construction in 1873. Now, thanks

:36:28.:36:31.

to the Woodchester Mansion Trust, workers resumed on this beautiful

:36:31.:36:38.

building. The winner of the craftsmanship award is Mr Graham

:36:38.:36:43.

Forge, his son and the group for the Smythe Barn. It is a massive

:36:44.:36:47.

pat on the back for all of the effort that we have done. It is

:36:47.:36:51.

lovely to be awarded something that recognises how much effort we have

:36:51.:36:57.

all put into it. What an exciting and enjoyable morning, not least

:36:57.:37:01.

for the winners. This is the first year of the Heritage Awards and in

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the future, I am looking forward to meeting many more Heritage Angels.

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Next up, Sir Terence Conran bought Mossbourne design into drab and

:37:11.:37:16.

dingy British households -- modern design. In doing so, he became a

:37:16.:37:20.

household name himself. Few have had such a profound effect on the

:37:20.:37:25.

look of our lifestyles. He has just turned 80 and to celebrate, the

:37:25.:37:29.

Design Museum is holding an exhibition looking back at his

:37:29.:37:39.
:37:39.:37:42.

extraordinary career. Alan Yentob Terence Conran has always been a

:37:42.:37:47.

hero of mine. It was his passion for intelligent design which helped

:37:47.:37:51.

transform the rather dowdy Britain of the 50s into a livelier, more

:37:51.:37:56.

elegant and more colourful plates. Conran is much more than a designer,

:37:56.:38:01.

a retailer or restaurateur, although he is all three of those.

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He was a pioneer of what seemed like a sophisticated, civilised

:38:05.:38:08.

lifestyle that he believed should be accessible and affordable to

:38:08.:38:13.

just about everyone. It is a mission that has absorbed him for

:38:13.:38:16.

over half a century and his employers and impact can still be

:38:16.:38:26.
:38:26.:38:29.

You enticed us all into understanding design. You held our

:38:29.:38:35.

hand. Let's face it, Britain was quite dowdy when you began and it

:38:35.:38:41.

has taken half a century to get where we are now, which somehow has

:38:41.:38:49.

embraced the dream he had. It is surprising to me, this, because I

:38:49.:38:54.

worked on the Festival of Britain as an extremely young designer and

:38:54.:39:01.

I saw the enormous enthusiasm that people had when they came to the

:39:01.:39:04.

festival. If you looked around London at that time, endless bomb

:39:04.:39:12.

sites, it was a miserable, Gray, rationed existence. Suddenly coming

:39:12.:39:20.

to the Festival of Britain was light, colour, cheerfulness,

:39:20.:39:28.

innovation, invention, a new architecture, shapes, and it gave

:39:29.:39:32.

the British who went to it confidence that they were in the

:39:32.:39:37.

right country at the right time. The British have always been rather

:39:37.:39:42.

suspicious of the Continent, of the French. You love Paris, you love

:39:42.:39:48.

France, you love cuisine, and now we have open-air cafes, there is

:39:48.:39:53.

light streaming into your building. In their early 50s, I had a friend

:39:53.:39:57.

called Michael Wickham who had been a condition last photographer and

:39:57.:40:02.

he said to me, would you like to come on holiday and so we set off

:40:02.:40:12.
:40:12.:40:13.

for France in his clapped-out car, and we managed to spend six weeks

:40:13.:40:20.

eating in wonderful cafes, slipping in ditches, and this trip to France

:40:20.:40:30.
:40:30.:40:31.

was enormously important to me. Especially, the Ironmongers shops,

:40:31.:40:37.

you went into them, these wonderful, sturdy, kitchen equipment. Great

:40:37.:40:45.

casseroles, wonderful ceramics, fantastic baskets. To me it all

:40:45.:40:52.

added up to the sort of life that I wanted to live. As it turned out,

:40:52.:40:56.

it was the sort of life that many of us wanted to live, although it

:40:56.:41:01.

took Conran's vision to persuade us that this was the case. In 1964, he

:41:01.:41:05.

opened a shop on the Fulham Road which was to blossom into perhaps

:41:06.:41:13.

his greatest legacy. Habitat. don't just sell furniture but they

:41:13.:41:16.

are also if taste supermarket. In this case, the furniture and the

:41:16.:41:23.

taste a one-man's: Terence Conran. I have always been fascinated by

:41:23.:41:28.

the below the stairs object of the Victorian era, which were made as

:41:28.:41:33.

very useful, simple objects. The design of them probably really

:41:33.:41:38.

wasn't considered as such, they had to do their job. His farmhouse

:41:38.:41:42.

tables and enamel jugs entice the naturally Conservative Brits to

:41:42.:41:47.

imagine they were revisiting the past. But his real genius lay in

:41:47.:41:51.

presenting those objects side by side, with high desire from

:41:51.:41:56.

Scandinavia and Italy. Pieces by contemporary designers, working in

:41:56.:42:00.

plastic and chrome. As much as anything, conman was selling us

:42:00.:42:07.

ideas about design. -- Terence Conran. You were trying to show

:42:07.:42:12.

people how they could live rather than the way they did lives. What

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Habitat was about, and I know you resist the would live start but I

:42:17.:42:22.

mean it in a positive way. In other words, the quality of life --

:42:22.:42:28.

resist the word "lifestyle". Not just the chair we sit in but the

:42:28.:42:35.

food we eat. How you make everyone a place we want to be in. For I

:42:35.:42:41.

believe in easy living. A feeling that when you come home, there is

:42:41.:42:47.

no formality, you can keep your shoes off, take your jacket off,

:42:47.:42:52.

sit down on the sofa and put your feet up on it, read a book, watch

:42:52.:43:02.
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the telly, have a drink and... I have always tried to create that

:43:02.:43:08.

sort of relaxed atmosphere. isn't too fantastical to say that

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Terence Conran was the reason most of us sleep under a duvet every

:43:11.:43:16.

night. That many of us have open- plan homes, or for the garlic

:43:16.:43:22.

presses, Wine Rack and pepper mills in our kitchens. His philosophy,

:43:22.:43:27.

which seemed so radical in the 60s, had become the norm, and he

:43:27.:43:32.

continues to design and make things today through his workshop, a

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Benchmark. As the elder statesman of British design, he is naturally

:43:38.:43:42.

concerned for the future of the industry and despite turning 80,

:43:42.:43:46.

the always outspoken Terence Conran has no intention of bowing out

:43:46.:43:52.

quietly. Do we undervalue the creative industry? I think one of

:43:52.:43:55.

the things that Britain has achieved a really his reputation,

:43:55.:44:00.

and much of it is to do with its design, its architecture, the

:44:00.:44:07.

people it has produced. Yeah. I think it is undervalued by

:44:07.:44:13.

government. Seriously undervalued. We have to create jobs, you know,

:44:13.:44:22.

the easiest way to create jobs is by making things. We have simply

:44:22.:44:28.

got to learn how to become a workshop again in this country and

:44:28.:44:33.

make things. Fancy living in a country that doesn't make anything.

:44:33.:44:42.

It is awful. Terence Conran, the Way We Live Now, is at the Design

:44:42.:44:46.

Museum from November 16th until March fourth next year. Next, if

:44:46.:44:51.

you are plotting or political power, what do you need to make it? Crowd-

:44:51.:44:57.

pleasing Policies? A makeover? An attractive young family? That will

:44:57.:45:02.

help but don't forget the latest weapon in the leader's' armoury,

:45:02.:45:07.

publishing a personal memoir. Over the pond, the Republican hot shot

:45:07.:45:11.

Michelle has her eye on the Oval Office and hence she is the latest

:45:11.:45:15.

politician to put pen to paper. Journalist Anne McElvoy talks us

:45:15.:45:25.
:45:25.:45:32.

Michelle Backman is the new Tea Party got ess of right-wing

:45:32.:45:38.

politics. In other words, she is the new Sara Palin. Just without

:45:38.:45:42.

the natural restraint and liberal tendencies. I think that people

:45:42.:45:46.

across the United States are not happy with President Obama's

:45:46.:45:52.

policies and I think it is likely he will be a one-term president.

:45:52.:45:57.

She is intent on challenging Barack Obama and as public opinion goes

:45:58.:46:03.

cold on the cool liberal guy, that is a big opportunity. So what does

:46:03.:46:09.

a fledgling member of congress need to reach out to a wider audience?

:46:09.:46:18.

She is deploying the weapon of a thumping great memoir with a states

:46:18.:46:25.

womanly image on the cover. You are no one in American politics without

:46:25.:46:30.

an autobiography laying out your view of the world. Modern

:46:30.:46:36.

campaigning is about selling a story. The game changer was Obama's

:46:36.:46:42.

Dreams For My Father. It was written before his career began and

:46:42.:46:50.

it has a refreshing honesty. Two things not always associated

:46:50.:46:54.

politicians. Can I not honestly say the voice in this book is not mine.

:46:55.:46:59.

But I would tell the story differently today. Even if certain

:46:59.:47:05.

passages have been inconvenient politicaly. What this book she'd

:47:05.:47:14.

touching life story could reach people who don't read big tomes and

:47:14.:47:21.

he even confessed to teenage drug abuse. But many people are writing

:47:21.:47:25.

memoirs before they achieve anything. So what is the point?

:47:25.:47:30.

Beside pegging her to a set of values, it is a chance to be on the

:47:30.:47:38.

chat shows and have acres of press coverage, even from detractors,

:47:38.:47:48.
:47:48.:47:52.

such as Jon Stewart. That is... The guy... Teaching people not to be

:47:52.:47:56.

gay? Of course Obama was not the first politician to discover the

:47:56.:48:02.

memoir as a campaign tool. Winston Churchill penned his self-portrait,

:48:02.:48:08.

my early life, to rise up the ranks and show his if theness to --

:48:08.:48:17.

fitness to lead. So did Adolf Hitler and Ronald Regan. Campaigns

:48:17.:48:23.

of the field in which interests clash intrigue us as events move to

:48:23.:48:33.
:48:33.:48:33.

the final show down. Tensions break out and stuff just happens. In

:48:33.:48:37.

Britain though political insiders tend to wait until they have

:48:37.:48:41.

achieved something before spilling the beans. In recent years we have

:48:41.:48:47.

had a slew of memoirs from the New Labour in crowd about life at the

:48:47.:48:51.

top. It wasn't the politics that appealed, it was the boldness,

:48:51.:48:56.

people talked about it for years. Here was a new leader, telling me

:48:56.:49:00.

he was thinking about doing it in his first conference speech. Bold.

:49:00.:49:04.

I said, I hope you do it. Because it's bold. Important thing about

:49:04.:49:09.

the accounts by the big hitters is they rarely concede that a lot of

:49:09.:49:14.

it was a waste of time or a cock up. Vindication is the name of the game

:49:14.:49:20.

with a twist of revenge. The hope was we would trip up and I would

:49:20.:49:25.

lose my head by some trick of fate the mood of the public would switch.

:49:25.:49:32.

It was never going to happen. everyone of these accounts is a

:49:32.:49:36.

feat of self congratulations. Politicians aren't into that, as we

:49:36.:49:44.

know. There is a school of memoir writing that is devoted to failure

:49:44.:49:53.

and what it feels like. From Labour's glody Chris Mullin to the

:49:53.:49:59.

old right-wing Alan Clarke. Department of Employment, Wednesday,

:49:59.:50:08.

15th June, she has a pale skin and large eyes, her blonde hair is gamy

:50:08.:50:12.

and short her sexuality tightly controlled. She makes plain her

:50:12.:50:17.

feelings on several accounts, without expressing them. One that

:50:17.:50:22.

I'm an uncouth lout, two that it is a mystery why I have been made a

:50:22.:50:28.

minister. The joy of the memoir is that it is weapon, a diversion and

:50:28.:50:33.

an execution and often absurd. But it is telling. The reason I like

:50:33.:50:37.

them, they give us a glimpse into the events of people who shaped our

:50:37.:50:43.

course. Are they self serve something of course. If you want to

:50:43.:50:51.

sniff the air of another era, there is no better way. Michelle

:50:51.:50:55.

Backman's memoir is published on 21st November. For those who like

:50:55.:51:01.

to be terrified, one of this autumn's key releases will be The

:51:01.:51:06.

Awakening, a new British thriller that had its premiere last week.

:51:06.:51:16.
:51:16.:51:29.

Mark Kermode has been talking to Rebecca harl is becoming one of the

:51:29.:51:35.

UK's most in demand actresss, The Awakening is a chiller set in

:51:35.:51:41.

postWorld War one Britain and she has made a career out of exposing

:51:41.:51:51.
:51:51.:51:55.

psychic fraudsters. Welcome to the show. You have been nominated for

:51:55.:52:01.

an independent film award. You have had nominations before. You won a

:52:01.:52:05.

BAFTA. Let's talk about The Awakening, has there been a return

:52:05.:52:09.

to that kind of classic horror? People seem to have decided they

:52:09.:52:17.

want something different from their chillers? The truth is that that

:52:17.:52:22.

these type of genre movies and everyone makes a face when you say

:52:22.:52:29.

that. Not me. I just don't think it is. Often the point of the films

:52:29.:52:35.

that take you know extreme situations is to say something more

:52:35.:52:42.

simple and humane. And often it is easier to tell, to get to the meat

:52:42.:52:47.

of that through being elliptical and going through it the other way

:52:47.:52:54.

and using a genre. I often find it illuminates things. What is the

:52:54.:52:59.

scariest film you saw? Probably Don't Look Now. But it is a strange

:52:59.:53:04.

one. I was home alone as a kid, I was about 12, rifling through my

:53:04.:53:10.

dad's video collection and put on Don't Look New As a 12 or 13-year-

:53:10.:53:15.

old. Perhaps not the best. I call that bad parenting. No. My parents

:53:15.:53:23.

would say not. Good parenting. The opening to cultures. Expose

:53:23.:53:27.

yourself to one of the scariest films. I didn't know what I was in

:53:27.:53:32.

for. I kept watching. There is a connection, because it is about

:53:33.:53:40.

loss and the centre of the Awakening, it is seen through the

:53:40.:53:45.

eyes of your character. Yes. I don't look at the script and think,

:53:45.:53:51.

you know, oh grieving, that is a great way to tell a ghost story. I

:53:51.:53:57.

thought a gors story is a good way to talk about grief. You use

:53:57.:54:05.

something to address something else. What is that? She began with film

:54:05.:54:11.

like The Prestige and went to Frost/Nixon and working with Woody

:54:11.:54:15.

Allen in Vicky Cristina Barcelona. He keeps looking over. You keep

:54:15.:54:21.

provoking contact. "M at. You have been throwing looks al at him.

:54:21.:54:26.

story with Woody Allen he said can you do an American accent, fine

:54:26.:54:32.

you're in? That is true. Really? Yes it sounds fan fast Tall -- fan

:54:32.:54:37.

tastical. He didn't even see my face. It was winter and I was

:54:37.:54:42.

wearing a hat and had a scarf. There was about this much of my

:54:42.:54:46.

face showing. I was trying to disrobe, not entirely, but within

:54:46.:54:54.

reason. Before I had got to the hat, he just said, can you do an

:54:54.:54:57.

American accent. I have spoken to people who have been directed by

:54:57.:55:02.

him and say he is very, he stands back and lets you do it and give

:55:02.:55:07.

you a bit. What is that like? true. If anything he is a bit

:55:07.:55:12.

more... He can be even more irrefr rent with his own material and I

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found that scary. He would say, do it again, put it in your own words,

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say what you want. I would say, you're kidding mairs, you're Woody

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Allen. I can't put it into my words. She is a mental teenager and she

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has a death wish. So for a brief moment of passion she abandons all

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responsibilities. What is it like working with Christopher Nolan?

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is extraordinary. I didn't, well I was green when I meat The Prestige.

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It was my first film and I had never been to Hollywood before. He

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cast me on the basis of a tape I made on my dodgy video recorder in

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my bedroom. So I didn't know it was. What was on the tape? A scene from

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the movie. It was like, you auditioning on your own? Yes it was

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with a mate reading behind the cam RSPCA I wasn't doing both parts.

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And just flipping my head. What do you want from me? I... I want... I

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want you to be... Honest with me. No tricks. No lies. And no...

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Secrets. You paint and you have been talking about directing and

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having confidence in something like Christopher Nolan, you have a

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creative vent, are you going to direct? Yeah, it is terrible being

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an actor, people ask you that. Sorry I meant it in a good way.

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is great, but if I say it now, then I'm going to have to come good on

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it. Would you like to. When your being directed. I'm being

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faseeshous, but I would like. have a project that you would like

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to direct? Maybe. Is ate genre project? I don't know yet. It is

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early days. OK. And The Awakening is on release from end of next week.

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This has been the last of our regular programmes, but you can see

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a special on Armistice Day, the 11th November at 7pm. Art for

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heroes look at how ex-servicemen suffering from post-traumatic

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stress are using art to help heal themselves. We leave you tonight

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with the Fleet Foxes, the American folk band are in the UK next month.

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But now here is a TV exclusive of a new animation made to accompany a

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