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This programme contains some strong language.

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This programme contains some strong language.

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Welcome to the Culture Show at the Edinburgh Festival where we are

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bending over backwards to bring you the very best in comedy, theatre,

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art and dance. Coming up: Mark Thomas's moving tale of opera,

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fathers and sons. Harry and his hobby - the hilarious Mr Hill talks

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painting. Miriam Margolyes discovers the treasures of

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Catherine the Great. And why have one when you can have three? Phill

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Jupitus on his gruelling Festival triple bill. He's available for

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weddings, Bar Mitzvahs, funerals, Holy Communions - he's very

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flexible! Back to business. Comedian and political activist

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Mark Thomas is best known for bashing political and corporate

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baddies. But his latest work involves bringing live opera to a

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bungalow. I went to see him to find out why.

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Ten years ago my dad started to walk backwards. His feet shot out

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from underneath him propelling him in the wrong direction and

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instinctively he pulled his torso forward trying to go the right way.

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He would inevitably lose the battle and his arms would fly out -

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"Argh!" And he would fall. Over the months, the falls got worse.

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could fall up to ten times a day. And then he started to shake.

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was right. When that arm went he had a kind of tremor to it. That

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was when I sent him to the doctor. The working class, aria-loving Mr

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Thomas Senior was diagnosed with the degenerative condition

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supranuclear palsy. Bravo Figaro! Is the story of Mark's quest to

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give his father one last gift - an opera in his very own living room.

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My dad is pushing against the arms of a chair with his hands and

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forcing himself upright. The concentration has caused his face

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to go red and his white beard stands out against his complexion,

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but his eyes. He has fought the battle against his eyelids and won.

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And his eyes are open. I had forgotten they were blue. They were

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crystal blue. And my dad is back in Mark, take me through the inception

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of this project. What was the igniting spark? I was the first

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person to do inheritance tracks on Radio 4. You talk about a song that

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is meaningful to you from a family perspective. And I realised that

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that aria, Figaro's aria from the Barber of Seville was this thing

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that my dad particularly loved and that was the thing that, as he got

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ill and disappeared from us, that was the thing that I started to

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connect with. They played that on the Radio 4 and someone from the

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Opera House heard it and Mike Figgis was curating the Festival at

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the Royal Opera House and asked me if I would do something about opera.

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That's where it all started. Hello? Mum, it's firstborn. Listen to me

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through. I've got this idea. Don't shoot it down. Dad doesn't get out.

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Dad doesn't listen to opera. He can't even watch it because he's

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going blind. So I've got singers, proper opera singers from the Royal

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Opera House. Think about this. Could we put on an opera in dad's

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living room? Could we put on an opera concert in the living room,

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with you, for dad, in Bournemouth? And my mum says, "Oh my God, what

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will the neighbours think?" does your mum feel - because your

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mum is now the mouthpiece of your dad. She's the carer. How does she

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feel about him being immortalised in this show? She's kind of all

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right with it. But she's very protective of him. So I have to

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talk to her quite a lot and say, "What shall we do about this?" "Can

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we put a picture of him in the press?" And she's like, "Well, he

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can't make that decision so we have to go with caution."

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My mum remembers the first time she went to Glyndebourne. She said,

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"I've sent your father up to the bar for a glass of the iced coffee

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and all I can hear is his voice going, 'How much?!'" But he loved

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the music and he knew about opera. He could tell you if he had seen a

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good one or a bad one, unlike 80% of the audience there who are just

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happy to pat themselves on the back just for turning up!

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I love standing up there just going, "My dad was a working class Tory"

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which sort of flies in the face of what people expect, do you know

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what I mean? There's something nice about that. Do you think his end-

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game would have been for a Rossini- style opera about Thatcher?! He

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would have loved it! I think he would have adored it. That would

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have been amazing, yeah you're right. The Iron Lady Opera. Yes.

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Bravo Figaro is on at the Traverse Theatre until 26th August. It's

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unlikely that those horse rumours about Catherine the Great are true,

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though undoubtedly she was a formidable woman. Alastair Sooke

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went along to look at some of here trinkets with another formidable

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woman about whom all horse rumours are false, Miriam Margolyes.

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Empress, lover, reformer, collector. Mother Russia personified. The

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National Museum of Scotland has brought an immaculate collection

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all the way from St Petersburg to Edinburgh this summer. More than

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600 objects from the personal collection of Catherine the Great

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that reveal the truths, the contradictions, the lives and the

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loves of one of the most extraordinary monarchs that ever

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lived. Joining me to uncover her story is actor and Catherine

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admirer Miriam Margolyes. Very nice to meet you. I just love her. I

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think a woman like that, who took all the opportunities that life

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offered, and she had so many interests - she was sexually active

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- and that personality has come through the ages down to us about

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250 years later. So she was quite a gal! Shall we go and have a look?

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Terrific, thank you. It's so fascinating that she was only 14

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when she was whisked across Europe to go and marry the man who became

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her husband. Before she became this. Hey! It's quite grand this. That

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makes me think of Elizabeth I. I have the heart and stomach of a

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king! And she's male there. That's the thing that I find so

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fascinating. It's a radically androgynous portrait. It suits her.

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It's all the rhetoric of old kind of swagger portraits I suppose of

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men, kings, rulers, controlling not just their horses but their

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kingdoms - their empires in this case. She's got a rather engaging

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smug expression as well. "Look at me and take note, folks!" What's

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this? I find these really intriguing. They date from a little

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later after she had taken power. These are porcelain figures of

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classic Russian characters, the kinds of people you would have

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found in Russia at the time. And they would have been modelled by

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So these are porcelain figures of Russian nationalities in their

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national costume? Yes. And it's of a piece with Catherine's whole

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programme to embrace Russia, that she was more Russian than the

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Russians to win the love of her people. And it worked. Good for her.

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Catherine did everything she could to make Russia great. Her reign

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coincided with the enlightenment - a brave, new intellectual age that

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privileged modernity and the rights of man and she wanted to bring some

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of that radical thinking into Russia. These are all French

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philosophers because this part of the show talks about how Catherine

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the Great was the Enlighten Empress. This was a bust that she had

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sculpted of herself and she sent it to a French philosopher, Voltaire,

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and they struck up a correspondence. Isn't that wonderful? What monarch

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these days talks to philosophers? I think that's tremendous. I love

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that intellectual vitality that she displayed. She was super-smart. She

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was not just politically talented, she was bright culturally, inspired

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really. I think he called her "the brightest star of the north" which

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was some accolade. Dear old Voltaire. I like him. This is a

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mind-blowing series of objects. This was originally a dining

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service consisting of almost 750 different porcelain pieces. Crikey.

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They were commissioned by Catherine from the Sevres Porcelain Factory

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in Paris. Can I show you a detail that I love? You can see these

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medallions that have been placed inside the porcelain. They were

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very prestigious objects in antiquity, collected by Roman

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Emperors. No surprise to see Catherine the Great interested in

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cameos. She had a huge collection herself. This would have cost in

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today's prices �1 million. I can believe it. Look at all the gold

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leaf. They were being gathered together as a gift for Potemkin. He

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was the chief lover in a series of lovers that she had during the

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course of her life. She must have loved him very much. Potemkin was a

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brilliant strategist and politician and Catherine needed him to help

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her transform the country. She also loved him deeply. She made him a

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prince. And she's rumoured to have married him in secret. He was her

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soul mate. But he was a military leader. Catherine was such a

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conqueror of her territories. He did it for her. She wasn't just in

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love with his body, but with his military prowess. What do you

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think? Was he a fine figure of a man? Yes, I think he was. She

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thought the world of him. Good on her! Can I show you something I do

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like? Please do, yeah. That is that portrait of Catherine. It is one of

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the last that was done of her. She is about in her late 50s. To me, it

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is a speaking likeness. There is an awareness of age somehow in her

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face. A compassionate gaze. But there is something so real about

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her there. She is an old lady and she is speaking to me, another old

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lady. Catherine the Great is on at the National Museum of Scotland

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until 21st October. That remains the best way of

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cleaning cutlery I have ever seen! Afternoon. I know all too well how

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exhausting it is to appear at the Edinburgh Festival. I had to work

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for up to an hour every day. Phill Jupitus has gone one further.

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Instead of the classic 60 minutes of labour, he's gone for three

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shows at this year's Festival. Phill Jupitus is no stranger to the

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Edinburgh Festival. This year, he's the only performer doing three

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shows back-to-back. First, he performs as a camp Conservative

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Minister in Coalition, a fictional account of the disintegrating

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relationship between the Tories and the Lib Dems. For every political

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crisis there is always the simple solution. It is always wrong!

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stage at 3.30pm, he has 30 minutes to dash to his next performance. I

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caught up with him. You are on a mission. I am sorry. You have to do

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it! Phill's free show is a mixture of poetry, chat and music. You have

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to go. I'm running late. I'm tired already. Fantastic. He started out

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as a performance poet in the '80s. This show takes him back to his

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roots. My nerves increased. Sir Paul at peace calmed me down with a

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friendly hey, I know you, you are off the telly. And without thinking

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I replied, "And I know you, mate, you're in the fucking Beatles!"

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Less than two hours later, he is back on stage in his stand-up show.

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Tonight, he elects to open as a German U-boat commander. How many

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boats did I sink? None. I'm a pacifist! Now, you may think what

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are you doing being in the Navy? Well, I am fighting my problem face

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to face, I'm claustrophobic! What you are doing this year is about

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trying to bust out of that feeling that you have been straight

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jacketed -- straitjacketed by the panel shows. I think so. Why not

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use that than think, "I must do a show, I must - let's focus on this

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this year." As soon as the play clicked in, it was three shows.

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What is the thrust of Coalition? Britain is not working? It is set

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in a couple of years what would be the natural end of the coalition.

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What makes the play work is that it is not out of the realms of

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possibility. The things that happen in the play in terms of how the

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coalition falls apart could happen in real-life. You start with that.

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You are into... Porky the Poet. is a great show. It is connecting

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you with your youth? Yes. That comes across as a lovely nostalgic

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feel to it? It was how I started. You have to embrace your past.

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I do one from the past, but it is bringing that side of your

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personality out again, the one wordy side of me. I know for a fact

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that you are not done for tonight. No. No. How many more tonight?

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have two more tonight. I'm doing set list at midnight and... Nutter!

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And Best of the Fringe at 1.00am. Then you will sleep the sleep of

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the funny... No, I will strip naked and I will stand there. I can get a

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crowd together! How many do you need? If you would like to check

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that out, watch Coalition, or him in character at the Stand

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throughout the Festival. Dance now. Yes, I have trained! Not in

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movement! The highlight is the Deborah Colker Dance Company. This

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is them in rehearsal. The Festival has always showcased

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the best in dance and this year is no exception. Over the next few

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weeks, the stages of the city will be alive with a thrilling spectacle

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of dance moves from a mixture of countries. First, straight in from

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Rio de Janeiro is the Deborah Colker Dance Company. It is one of

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Brazil's hottest cultural exports. She's choreographed videos for MTV,

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won an Olivier Award and is the first woman to create a show for

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 49 seconds

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Why were you so drawn to this story? When I read the story of

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Pushkin, I would fall in love with the characters, how Pushkin

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described them in the beginning and the transformation. It is amazing.

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In the end, she is the dominant woman! LAUGHTER No, it is someone

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that really chooses her destiny. The story at the heart of the novel

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is of a country girl who falls in love with a cosmopolitan. Years

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later, the tables are turned. Will love prevail? It is a tragedy. It

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is about love. It is about life. Really, I felt that it was one

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story that doesn't matter that it was not from the 1970s. You have

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put Pushkin at the heart of the dance? You have made him a

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character? Yeah. How did you decide to locate him in the midst of your

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other characters? This is something - I like my decision. Onegin did a

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version of Tchaikovsky. One film was done, very British. I like that

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very much. I am the first one that really decided to have Pushkin on

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the stage because if you read the book, you understand my point of

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view. He is - sometimes you don't know who he is talking. It is

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Onegin, it is Pushkin. Who is saying this?! What's happened? Who

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is changing? You understand? That means that he is part of the story.

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Also a very strong conception is that extraordinary construct - the

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tree in the middle of the stage, which is so unique. Tell me how you

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came up with that? The tree is the symbol of nature that Pushkin talks

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about. And also it is like branches. This makes different places on the

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stage. This is the house of Tatyana. This is the garden. No? And to

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bring this kind of imagination. your decision to dance in it, was

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that inevitable? Did you have to be part of this? This wasn't easy. To

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the end, do I need to dance or not? I need to be on the stage with this

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company. I'm a grandmother! Can you believe this? No! It is time to

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stop. For over a decade Harry Hill's TV

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Burp has been satirising everything on the small screen. Harry Hill is

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in Edinburgh with an exhibition of his paintings and Michael Smith

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went along to talk to him. After being a doctor, he changed to

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Harry Hill and decided to become a stand-up comedian, as you do. He

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made his name in this city. He took his bizarre brand of humour to the

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mainstream and he managed to give kudos to You've Been Framed!

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Harry's career taken another strange turn. He is here in

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Edinburgh for the first public exhibition of his paintings. In my

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hobby, he's turned his hand to creating an al ter Nat reality --

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alternate reality. This is Philip Scholfield. This is what I thought

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was perhaps his nightmare. He has to think on his feet the whole time.

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There is something very dark going on with all this business. Yeah. I

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used to have that joke where I used to say, "If mummy loved me, why is

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she not breathing?" That was quite dark. LAUGHTER This is Colleen

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Nolen. From Loose Women? Yes. There is an article about how her rabbit

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had been killed by thugs. LAUGHTER You find that funny? Just the way

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you said it! I got the picture of the rabbit. Why the optical? I like

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the science diagrams. There's a few of those in these. This is the

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Jarvis Cocker nut! I was involved in a charity event where I was

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manning a coconut shy and he was manning the dodgems. My wife won a

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coconut, right? And because Jarvis had been there on the day and I had

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met him, I thought I would paint his face on one. Then I thought I

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would have a series of Brit Pop coconuts. There is a fourth. It is

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not a good likeness. That is when he was a bit older. In the future!

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LAUGHTER It is not quite there. So who is the dog? Her name might

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have been Lola. Why is she so sinister? She is like a sort of

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plucky little dog and it is a - she had been around at various points

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in history. So I thought maybe it was her... Spoiled it for Fergie

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and Andrew. She had taken the ring! LAUGHTER I don't know what her role

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is. Maybe she has a role of the media. OK. Right. LAUGHTER But she

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is Lola the media dog. To be honest, I don't give it a lot of thought. I

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think with that - I did work that one out before I painted it. A lot

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of the time I start on the dog. lot of the subject matter does seem

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to be the pop culture? I don't go out much! I receive all my

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information through the Daily Mail. Right. Tell me about Chris Tarrant?

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Once I got the hang of painting his face, I couldn't stop doing it.

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Where is his hand? In the photograph he had his hand, it was

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cut off there. This isn't quite as accurate. LAUGHTER I imagine, I

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don't know. In your stand-up there is a lot of reference to hands

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being mutilated. Your son had a rather different-sized... Gary and

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Sam, his son. LAUGHTER Yes. noticed that? Yeah. He was born

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with one hand a lot bigger than the other. It has not been a problem

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until we have started to teach him how to tell the time. LAUGHTER

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know I would say, "Where's the big hand?" He would take that the wrong

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way! You get that one for free! LAUGHTER My Hobby runs until 2nd

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September. Harry will be embarking on a national tour next year. Join

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us same time next week where I'll be talking to Niall Rogers and we

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