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Welcome to the Culture Show at the Edinburgh Festival where we are | :01:30. | :01:33. | |
bending over backwards to bring you the very best in comedy, theatre, | :01:33. | :01:38. | |
art and dance. Coming up: Mark Thomas's moving tale of opera, | :01:38. | :01:42. | |
fathers and sons. Harry and his hobby - the hilarious Mr Hill talks | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
painting. Miriam Margolyes discovers the treasures of | :01:45. | :01:51. | |
Catherine the Great. And why have one when you can have three? Phill | :01:51. | :01:57. | |
Jupitus on his gruelling Festival triple bill. He's available for | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
weddings, Bar Mitzvahs, funerals, Holy Communions - he's very | :01:59. | :02:06. | |
flexible! Back to business. Comedian and political activist | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
Mark Thomas is best known for bashing political and corporate | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
baddies. But his latest work involves bringing live opera to a | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
bungalow. I went to see him to find out why. | :02:17. | :02:26. | |
Ten years ago my dad started to walk backwards. His feet shot out | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
from underneath him propelling him in the wrong direction and | :02:29. | :02:36. | |
instinctively he pulled his torso forward trying to go the right way. | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
He would inevitably lose the battle and his arms would fly out - | :02:39. | :02:47. | |
"Argh!" And he would fall. Over the months, the falls got worse. | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
could fall up to ten times a day. And then he started to shake. | :02:52. | :02:57. | |
was right. When that arm went he had a kind of tremor to it. That | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
was when I sent him to the doctor. The working class, aria-loving Mr | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
Thomas Senior was diagnosed with the degenerative condition | :03:03. | :03:11. | |
supranuclear palsy. Bravo Figaro! Is the story of Mark's quest to | :03:11. | :03:19. | |
give his father one last gift - an opera in his very own living room. | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
My dad is pushing against the arms of a chair with his hands and | :03:23. | :03:28. | |
forcing himself upright. The concentration has caused his face | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
to go red and his white beard stands out against his complexion, | :03:31. | :03:38. | |
but his eyes. He has fought the battle against his eyelids and won. | :03:38. | :03:44. | |
And his eyes are open. I had forgotten they were blue. They were | :03:44. | :03:54. | |
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crystal blue. And my dad is back in Mark, take me through the inception | :04:00. | :04:06. | |
of this project. What was the igniting spark? I was the first | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
person to do inheritance tracks on Radio 4. You talk about a song that | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
is meaningful to you from a family perspective. And I realised that | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
that aria, Figaro's aria from the Barber of Seville was this thing | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
that my dad particularly loved and that was the thing that, as he got | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
ill and disappeared from us, that was the thing that I started to | :04:25. | :04:32. | |
connect with. They played that on the Radio 4 and someone from the | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
Opera House heard it and Mike Figgis was curating the Festival at | :04:35. | :04:41. | |
the Royal Opera House and asked me if I would do something about opera. | :04:42. | :04:51. | |
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That's where it all started. Hello? Mum, it's firstborn. Listen to me | :04:53. | :05:02. | |
through. I've got this idea. Don't shoot it down. Dad doesn't get out. | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
Dad doesn't listen to opera. He can't even watch it because he's | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
going blind. So I've got singers, proper opera singers from the Royal | :05:10. | :05:15. | |
Opera House. Think about this. Could we put on an opera in dad's | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
living room? Could we put on an opera concert in the living room, | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
with you, for dad, in Bournemouth? And my mum says, "Oh my God, what | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
will the neighbours think?" does your mum feel - because your | :05:29. | :05:35. | |
mum is now the mouthpiece of your dad. She's the carer. How does she | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
feel about him being immortalised in this show? She's kind of all | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
right with it. But she's very protective of him. So I have to | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
talk to her quite a lot and say, "What shall we do about this?" "Can | :05:47. | :05:52. | |
we put a picture of him in the press?" And she's like, "Well, he | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
can't make that decision so we have to go with caution." | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
My mum remembers the first time she went to Glyndebourne. She said, | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
"I've sent your father up to the bar for a glass of the iced coffee | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
and all I can hear is his voice going, 'How much?!'" But he loved | :06:06. | :06:16. | |
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the music and he knew about opera. He could tell you if he had seen a | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
good one or a bad one, unlike 80% of the audience there who are just | :06:23. | :06:27. | |
happy to pat themselves on the back just for turning up! | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
I love standing up there just going, "My dad was a working class Tory" | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
which sort of flies in the face of what people expect, do you know | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
what I mean? There's something nice about that. Do you think his end- | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
game would have been for a Rossini- style opera about Thatcher?! He | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
would have loved it! I think he would have adored it. That would | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
have been amazing, yeah you're right. The Iron Lady Opera. Yes. | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
Bravo Figaro is on at the Traverse Theatre until 26th August. It's | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
unlikely that those horse rumours about Catherine the Great are true, | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
though undoubtedly she was a formidable woman. Alastair Sooke | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
went along to look at some of here trinkets with another formidable | :07:07. | :07:15. | |
woman about whom all horse rumours are false, Miriam Margolyes. | :07:15. | :07:25. | |
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Empress, lover, reformer, collector. Mother Russia personified. The | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
National Museum of Scotland has brought an immaculate collection | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
all the way from St Petersburg to Edinburgh this summer. More than | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
600 objects from the personal collection of Catherine the Great | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
that reveal the truths, the contradictions, the lives and the | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
loves of one of the most extraordinary monarchs that ever | :07:43. | :07:51. | |
lived. Joining me to uncover her story is actor and Catherine | :07:51. | :07:59. | |
admirer Miriam Margolyes. Very nice to meet you. I just love her. I | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
think a woman like that, who took all the opportunities that life | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
offered, and she had so many interests - she was sexually active | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
- and that personality has come through the ages down to us about | :08:08. | :08:18. | |
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250 years later. So she was quite a gal! Shall we go and have a look? | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
Terrific, thank you. It's so fascinating that she was only 14 | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
when she was whisked across Europe to go and marry the man who became | :08:28. | :08:38. | |
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her husband. Before she became this. Hey! It's quite grand this. That | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
makes me think of Elizabeth I. I have the heart and stomach of a | :08:43. | :08:50. | |
king! And she's male there. That's the thing that I find so | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
fascinating. It's a radically androgynous portrait. It suits her. | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
It's all the rhetoric of old kind of swagger portraits I suppose of | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
men, kings, rulers, controlling not just their horses but their | :09:01. | :09:07. | |
kingdoms - their empires in this case. She's got a rather engaging | :09:07. | :09:17. | |
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smug expression as well. "Look at me and take note, folks!" What's | :09:25. | :09:32. | |
this? I find these really intriguing. They date from a little | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
later after she had taken power. These are porcelain figures of | :09:35. | :09:37. | |
classic Russian characters, the kinds of people you would have | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
found in Russia at the time. And they would have been modelled by | :09:41. | :09:47. | |
So these are porcelain figures of Russian nationalities in their | :09:47. | :09:52. | |
national costume? Yes. And it's of a piece with Catherine's whole | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
programme to embrace Russia, that she was more Russian than the | :09:54. | :10:01. | |
Russians to win the love of her people. And it worked. Good for her. | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
Catherine did everything she could to make Russia great. Her reign | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
coincided with the enlightenment - a brave, new intellectual age that | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
privileged modernity and the rights of man and she wanted to bring some | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
of that radical thinking into Russia. These are all French | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
philosophers because this part of the show talks about how Catherine | :10:19. | :10:24. | |
the Great was the Enlighten Empress. This was a bust that she had | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
sculpted of herself and she sent it to a French philosopher, Voltaire, | :10:27. | :10:34. | |
and they struck up a correspondence. Isn't that wonderful? What monarch | :10:34. | :10:40. | |
these days talks to philosophers? I think that's tremendous. I love | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
that intellectual vitality that she displayed. She was super-smart. She | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
was not just politically talented, she was bright culturally, inspired | :10:48. | :10:53. | |
really. I think he called her "the brightest star of the north" which | :10:53. | :11:01. | |
was some accolade. Dear old Voltaire. I like him. This is a | :11:01. | :11:07. | |
mind-blowing series of objects. This was originally a dining | :11:07. | :11:15. | |
service consisting of almost 750 different porcelain pieces. Crikey. | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
They were commissioned by Catherine from the Sevres Porcelain Factory | :11:17. | :11:24. | |
in Paris. Can I show you a detail that I love? You can see these | :11:24. | :11:30. | |
medallions that have been placed inside the porcelain. They were | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
very prestigious objects in antiquity, collected by Roman | :11:32. | :11:37. | |
Emperors. No surprise to see Catherine the Great interested in | :11:37. | :11:43. | |
cameos. She had a huge collection herself. This would have cost in | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
today's prices �1 million. I can believe it. Look at all the gold | :11:48. | :11:54. | |
leaf. They were being gathered together as a gift for Potemkin. He | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
was the chief lover in a series of lovers that she had during the | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
course of her life. She must have loved him very much. Potemkin was a | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
brilliant strategist and politician and Catherine needed him to help | :12:06. | :12:12. | |
her transform the country. She also loved him deeply. She made him a | :12:12. | :12:17. | |
prince. And she's rumoured to have married him in secret. He was her | :12:17. | :12:23. | |
soul mate. But he was a military leader. Catherine was such a | :12:24. | :12:32. | |
conqueror of her territories. He did it for her. She wasn't just in | :12:32. | :12:39. | |
love with his body, but with his military prowess. What do you | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
think? Was he a fine figure of a man? Yes, I think he was. She | :12:43. | :12:50. | |
thought the world of him. Good on her! Can I show you something I do | :12:50. | :12:56. | |
like? Please do, yeah. That is that portrait of Catherine. It is one of | :12:56. | :13:03. | |
the last that was done of her. She is about in her late 50s. To me, it | :13:03. | :13:09. | |
is a speaking likeness. There is an awareness of age somehow in her | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
face. A compassionate gaze. But there is something so real about | :13:15. | :13:22. | |
her there. She is an old lady and she is speaking to me, another old | :13:22. | :13:31. | |
lady. Catherine the Great is on at the National Museum of Scotland | :13:31. | :13:39. | |
until 21st October. That remains the best way of | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
cleaning cutlery I have ever seen! Afternoon. I know all too well how | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
exhausting it is to appear at the Edinburgh Festival. I had to work | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
for up to an hour every day. Phill Jupitus has gone one further. | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
Instead of the classic 60 minutes of labour, he's gone for three | :14:00. | :14:08. | |
shows at this year's Festival. Phill Jupitus is no stranger to the | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
Edinburgh Festival. This year, he's the only performer doing three | :14:12. | :14:19. | |
shows back-to-back. First, he performs as a camp Conservative | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
Minister in Coalition, a fictional account of the disintegrating | :14:23. | :14:28. | |
relationship between the Tories and the Lib Dems. For every political | :14:28. | :14:36. | |
crisis there is always the simple solution. It is always wrong! | :14:36. | :14:43. | |
stage at 3.30pm, he has 30 minutes to dash to his next performance. I | :14:43. | :14:49. | |
caught up with him. You are on a mission. I am sorry. You have to do | :14:49. | :14:59. | |
it! Phill's free show is a mixture of poetry, chat and music. You have | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
to go. I'm running late. I'm tired already. Fantastic. He started out | :15:04. | :15:11. | |
as a performance poet in the '80s. This show takes him back to his | :15:11. | :15:17. | |
roots. My nerves increased. Sir Paul at peace calmed me down with a | :15:17. | :15:27. | |
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friendly hey, I know you, you are off the telly. And without thinking | :15:28. | :15:38. | |
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I replied, "And I know you, mate, you're in the fucking Beatles!" | :15:40. | :15:45. | |
Less than two hours later, he is back on stage in his stand-up show. | :15:45. | :15:52. | |
Tonight, he elects to open as a German U-boat commander. How many | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
boats did I sink? None. I'm a pacifist! Now, you may think what | :15:56. | :16:06. | |
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are you doing being in the Navy? Well, I am fighting my problem face | :16:07. | :16:17. | |
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to face, I'm claustrophobic! What you are doing this year is about | :16:19. | :16:27. | |
trying to bust out of that feeling that you have been straight | :16:27. | :16:34. | |
jacketed -- straitjacketed by the panel shows. I think so. Why not | :16:35. | :16:41. | |
use that than think, "I must do a show, I must - let's focus on this | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
this year." As soon as the play clicked in, it was three shows. | :16:45. | :16:51. | |
What is the thrust of Coalition? Britain is not working? It is set | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
in a couple of years what would be the natural end of the coalition. | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
What makes the play work is that it is not out of the realms of | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
possibility. The things that happen in the play in terms of how the | :17:01. | :17:06. | |
coalition falls apart could happen in real-life. You start with that. | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
You are into... Porky the Poet. is a great show. It is connecting | :17:11. | :17:20. | |
you with your youth? Yes. That comes across as a lovely nostalgic | :17:20. | :17:26. | |
feel to it? It was how I started. You have to embrace your past. | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
I do one from the past, but it is bringing that side of your | :17:31. | :17:37. | |
personality out again, the one wordy side of me. I know for a fact | :17:37. | :17:42. | |
that you are not done for tonight. No. No. How many more tonight? | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
have two more tonight. I'm doing set list at midnight and... Nutter! | :17:48. | :17:56. | |
And Best of the Fringe at 1.00am. Then you will sleep the sleep of | :17:57. | :18:05. | |
the funny... No, I will strip naked and I will stand there. I can get a | :18:05. | :18:09. | |
crowd together! How many do you need? If you would like to check | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
that out, watch Coalition, or him in character at the Stand | :18:14. | :18:20. | |
throughout the Festival. Dance now. Yes, I have trained! Not in | :18:20. | :18:30. | |
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movement! The highlight is the Deborah Colker Dance Company. This | :18:34. | :18:42. | |
is them in rehearsal. The Festival has always showcased | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
the best in dance and this year is no exception. Over the next few | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
weeks, the stages of the city will be alive with a thrilling spectacle | :18:54. | :19:01. | |
of dance moves from a mixture of countries. First, straight in from | :19:01. | :19:11. | |
Rio de Janeiro is the Deborah Colker Dance Company. It is one of | :19:11. | :19:20. | |
Brazil's hottest cultural exports. She's choreographed videos for MTV, | :19:20. | :19:30. | |
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won an Olivier Award and is the first woman to create a show for | :19:33. | :19:43. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 49 seconds | :19:43. | :20:33. | |
Why were you so drawn to this story? When I read the story of | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
Pushkin, I would fall in love with the characters, how Pushkin | :20:37. | :20:45. | |
described them in the beginning and the transformation. It is amazing. | :20:45. | :20:52. | |
In the end, she is the dominant woman! LAUGHTER No, it is someone | :20:52. | :21:02. | |
that really chooses her destiny. The story at the heart of the novel | :21:02. | :21:12. | |
is of a country girl who falls in love with a cosmopolitan. Years | :21:12. | :21:22. | |
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later, the tables are turned. Will love prevail? It is a tragedy. It | :21:24. | :21:30. | |
is about love. It is about life. Really, I felt that it was one | :21:30. | :21:40. | |
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story that doesn't matter that it was not from the 1970s. You have | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
put Pushkin at the heart of the dance? You have made him a | :21:46. | :21:52. | |
character? Yeah. How did you decide to locate him in the midst of your | :21:52. | :22:01. | |
other characters? This is something - I like my decision. Onegin did a | :22:01. | :22:11. | |
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version of Tchaikovsky. One film was done, very British. I like that | :22:16. | :22:22. | |
very much. I am the first one that really decided to have Pushkin on | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
the stage because if you read the book, you understand my point of | :22:26. | :22:33. | |
view. He is - sometimes you don't know who he is talking. It is | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
Onegin, it is Pushkin. Who is saying this?! What's happened? Who | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
is changing? You understand? That means that he is part of the story. | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
Also a very strong conception is that extraordinary construct - the | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
tree in the middle of the stage, which is so unique. Tell me how you | :22:52. | :22:58. | |
came up with that? The tree is the symbol of nature that Pushkin talks | :22:58. | :23:05. | |
about. And also it is like branches. This makes different places on the | :23:05. | :23:12. | |
stage. This is the house of Tatyana. This is the garden. No? And to | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
bring this kind of imagination. your decision to dance in it, was | :23:17. | :23:26. | |
that inevitable? Did you have to be part of this? This wasn't easy. To | :23:26. | :23:31. | |
the end, do I need to dance or not? I need to be on the stage with this | :23:31. | :23:36. | |
company. I'm a grandmother! Can you believe this? No! It is time to | :23:36. | :23:46. | |
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stop. For over a decade Harry Hill's TV | :23:48. | :23:55. | |
Burp has been satirising everything on the small screen. Harry Hill is | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
in Edinburgh with an exhibition of his paintings and Michael Smith | :23:59. | :24:09. | |
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went along to talk to him. After being a doctor, he changed to | :24:13. | :24:21. | |
Harry Hill and decided to become a stand-up comedian, as you do. He | :24:21. | :24:31. | |
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made his name in this city. He took his bizarre brand of humour to the | :24:36. | :24:44. | |
mainstream and he managed to give kudos to You've Been Framed! | :24:44. | :24:50. | |
Harry's career taken another strange turn. He is here in | :24:50. | :24:56. | |
Edinburgh for the first public exhibition of his paintings. In my | :24:56. | :25:06. | |
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hobby, he's turned his hand to creating an al ter Nat reality -- | :25:07. | :25:16. | |
alternate reality. This is Philip Scholfield. This is what I thought | :25:16. | :25:24. | |
was perhaps his nightmare. He has to think on his feet the whole time. | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
There is something very dark going on with all this business. Yeah. I | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
used to have that joke where I used to say, "If mummy loved me, why is | :25:33. | :25:43. | |
she not breathing?" That was quite dark. LAUGHTER This is Colleen | :25:43. | :25:50. | |
Nolen. From Loose Women? Yes. There is an article about how her rabbit | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
had been killed by thugs. LAUGHTER You find that funny? Just the way | :25:55. | :26:04. | |
you said it! I got the picture of the rabbit. Why the optical? I like | :26:04. | :26:14. | |
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the science diagrams. There's a few of those in these. This is the | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
Jarvis Cocker nut! I was involved in a charity event where I was | :26:18. | :26:28. | |
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manning a coconut shy and he was manning the dodgems. My wife won a | :26:28. | :26:33. | |
coconut, right? And because Jarvis had been there on the day and I had | :26:33. | :26:39. | |
met him, I thought I would paint his face on one. Then I thought I | :26:39. | :26:45. | |
would have a series of Brit Pop coconuts. There is a fourth. It is | :26:45. | :26:53. | |
not a good likeness. That is when he was a bit older. In the future! | :26:53. | :27:02. | |
LAUGHTER It is not quite there. So who is the dog? Her name might | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
have been Lola. Why is she so sinister? She is like a sort of | :27:07. | :27:16. | |
plucky little dog and it is a - she had been around at various points | :27:16. | :27:24. | |
in history. So I thought maybe it was her... Spoiled it for Fergie | :27:24. | :27:29. | |
and Andrew. She had taken the ring! LAUGHTER I don't know what her role | :27:29. | :27:39. | |
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is. Maybe she has a role of the media. OK. Right. LAUGHTER But she | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
is Lola the media dog. To be honest, I don't give it a lot of thought. I | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
think with that - I did work that one out before I painted it. A lot | :27:47. | :27:57. | |
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of the time I start on the dog. lot of the subject matter does seem | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
to be the pop culture? I don't go out much! I receive all my | :28:05. | :28:11. | |
information through the Daily Mail. Right. Tell me about Chris Tarrant? | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
Once I got the hang of painting his face, I couldn't stop doing it. | :28:16. | :28:22. | |
Where is his hand? In the photograph he had his hand, it was | :28:22. | :28:27. | |
cut off there. This isn't quite as accurate. LAUGHTER I imagine, I | :28:27. | :28:35. | |
don't know. In your stand-up there is a lot of reference to hands | :28:35. | :28:41. | |
being mutilated. Your son had a rather different-sized... Gary and | :28:41. | :28:48. | |
Sam, his son. LAUGHTER Yes. noticed that? Yeah. He was born | :28:48. | :28:52. | |
with one hand a lot bigger than the other. It has not been a problem | :28:52. | :28:57. | |
until we have started to teach him how to tell the time. LAUGHTER | :28:57. | :29:01. | |
know I would say, "Where's the big hand?" He would take that the wrong | :29:01. | :29:11. | |
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way! You get that one for free! LAUGHTER My Hobby runs until 2nd | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
September. Harry will be embarking on a national tour next year. Join | :29:22. | :29:29. | |
us same time next week where I'll be talking to Niall Rogers and we | :29:29. | :29:37. |