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Hello and welcome to the Culture Show. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:03 | |
This week, we're in Bexhill, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
enjoying the great British summertime at the Delaware Pavilion. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Built in 1935, it was the UK's first major modernist public building. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:14 | |
It's a classic venue with a new rooftop installation | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
inspired by a classic film. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
More of that to come. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
First, here's a glimpse of what else is coming up | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
on this week's show. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
Extreme dance with Elizabeth Streb. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
A tour of Olympic architecture. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
A fire garden at Stonehenge. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
And Ben Drewe, aka Plan B. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
But first, one of my highlights of this summer's London 2012 festival | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
is in Bexhill, a sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
now the site of a patriotic homage | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
to one of the finest film finales of all-time. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
The Italian Job is a perfect piece of 1960s British film-making. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
A brilliantly entertaining slice of flag-waving nostalgia. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
Complete with Minis in Union Jack formation. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
A cast of homegrown greats. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
And a raft of killer one-liners. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off! | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
The plot revolves around a small-time crook | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
played by Michael Caine | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
who travels to Turin on a mission to nick £4 million of Italian gold. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
It's basically an excuse for an extended car chase | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
in which the might of the great British Mini | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
triumphs over Italy's pathetically inferior Fiat. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
But it's perhaps best known | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
for one of the most memorable final sequences in film history. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
Disaster strikes | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
just when our boys think they are home and dry with the stolen gold, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
and our hero announces the film's final cliff-hanging line. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
Hang on a minute, lads. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
I've got a great idea. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
Er... | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
Er... | 0:02:32 | 0:02:33 | |
Fast forward 43 years to 2012, and the artist Richard Wilson | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
has come up with the frankly brilliant idea | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
of replicating the final moments of that film | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
by hanging a full-scale replica bus off the roof | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
of the Delaware Pavilion, here in Bexhill-on-Sea. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
So, Richard, we have a coach | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
teetering on the edge of the Delaware Pavilion. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
It's called, Hang On A Minute, Lads, I've Got A Great Idea. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Where did the great idea come from? | 0:03:07 | 0:03:08 | |
It came from many, many different notions. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
As you say, teetering on the edge. It's half on something solid. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
It's half in open space. We're right at the water's edge here. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
We are on land, but we have the sea there. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
The sea runs to the edge and we've got sky. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
We're dealing with the edge of the building. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
It's lots of little things that come together | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
to build something of a cliff-hanger. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
And that word was right. OK, we need a structural dome. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
We need to draw people's attention to the building. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
This iconic thing - what can I do that's iconic as a cliff-hanger? | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
I started to think about that moment | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
of the coach in that wonderful film, The Italian Job. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
What can I do like that? It was just so obvious. Do it! | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Don't find something like that. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Just reenact that iconic cinematic moment on this iconic building. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
I've played with facades and now I want to play with an edge. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
For over 20 years, Richard Wilson | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
has been creating epic, site-specific installations. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
In Liverpool, in 2007, he chose to play with our perceptions of surface | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
by spinning a circular section of a building's facade. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
For his seminal piece, 2050, he flooded a room with oil | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
with a waist-high walkway | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
that allowed visitors to enter into a mirrored illusion. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
In 2000, he displayed a 15% cross-section of a ship. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
His next project, Slipstream, will reveal the solid embodiment | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
of the void left by a spinning stunt plane, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
and is set to dominate the Heathrow terminal. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
In these gigantic works, Wilson is asking us to look again | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
at the world we take for granted. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I'm taking imagery which is current, and it's understood. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
If I'm working with a vocabulary of forms that I've invented, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
like a couple of my colleagues, where it comes from the imagination | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
but doesn't have a reference point, you're struggling a bit. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
But if I take objects that exist in the real world, people know those | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
and they're already having a relationship with them. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
What do you think it is about The Italian Job | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
that captures the imagination after all these generations? | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
It's an amalgamation, it's a caper, an action adventure, it's a comedy. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
It's Keystone Cops meets The Lavender Hill Mob. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
It's our lads going off and ripping off Turin's Fiat factory | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
and getting the gold and bringing it back. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
I could eat a horse! | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
To spend all that time and effort and money to do something like that. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
And then to completely botch it at the end, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:33 | |
it's like watching England play football. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
If you go through with this, you've got to win. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
If you muck it up, don't ever think of coming back here, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
except in your coffin. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
One of the interesting things about The Italian Job, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
in its original script form, it was a darker story than we now know. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
It became more comic. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
And again, it seems you can see that in this piece. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
On the one hand, it is funny and charming, on the other hand | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
there is an element of jeopardy involved, isn't there? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Well, there is, and it's an interesting conversation. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
People have been asking about longevity and what will happen after this? I'm saying, in a way, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
it needs to go to an audience that understands the film. They'll get it. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
If you took something like this to Japan, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
that imagery talks of something else. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
That terrible tsunami, and ships on buildings. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
It has a completely different ring. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
So it's a very difficult one to place because it conjures other thoughts. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
In terms of film, there are two things that people are sniffy about, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
comedy and action. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
If somebody makes somebody laugh | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
or if it is spectacular they go, "OK, well, it's not art." | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Do you find the same thing true in the sculpture world? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
That if it makes you laugh, it can be looked down on? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
I've been very fortunate in my career. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
There's always been a slight element of humour. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
If you, for example, take the piece up in Liverpool, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
you're doing something with architecture that it doesn't do. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
Architecture doesn't move. So people go, "Oh, my God". | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
It's that, it's a strange relief action. It's like "Oh, I get it". | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
Have you seen that happening here with this? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
When we pulled up, you do stop. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
Well, what's sometimes seen as a dirty word by a lot of artists, I love it. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
I like that notion of specatacle, the wow factor. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
I like the idea that you are held in your tracks, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
you look, and then you start to rationalise. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
What's also great is, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:30 | |
you don't need to be versed in art grammar to get it. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
It's this thing that looks as if it will fall off the edge of the building. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
And that arrests you in your step. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
I like the idea that there's so much information and imagery | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
pouring into us now, that I want to get that snapshot look on things. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
And by doing that, I have to do that little conjuring magical moment, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
which is the structural daring, basically, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
where you're seized and arrested at that point. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
You look, then you can stay and contemplate, or you move on. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
-It's a great piece. Congratulations. -Thanks very much, Mark. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
You can see Hang On A Minute, Lads, I've Got A Great Idea | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
until October 1st. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Now we move up a gear to extreme action company Streb | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
and their latest daredevil display. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Called One Extrordinary Day, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:15 | |
it's the brain child of American choreographer, Elizabeth Streb, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
who allowed us to film their top secret rehearsals for a performance | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
at seven London landmarks. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
If you want to know more, you can follow them on Twitter. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
-All right, climbing. -I'm watching him climb. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
Describe Streb to you? A wild crazy adventure. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
It's cool, man. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
As far as I'm aware, Streb are the only people who do this. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
It's about being up in the air and staying up in the air | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
for as long as possible. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
It's also about taking a hit, as well, when you get to the ground. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
Everything you train for as an acrobat or a dancer | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
is completely irrelevant in Streb. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
That's the foundation of being a true action hero. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
I think of Streb as action's answer to rock'n'roll. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
Like the sort of renegades of rock'n'roll. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
The real old rough-and-ready rock'n'rollers. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
Yes! | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Action was always meant to be transgressive | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
and really be dangerous like that. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Just remember what Elizabeth talked about yesterday. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Find your perfect line. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Tip! | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
I loved Evil Knievel. I loved Houdini. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
I loved all of the Niagara daredevils, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
especially the ones that designed barrels to go over Niagara Falls. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
I thought "Cool!" | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
One woman, Annie Edson Taylor, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
she was the first woman and she was about my age, 63. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
I'm 62, I'm a little younger. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Imagine a 63-year-old woman getting in a barrel and going over, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
and she survived! | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
I can't really say my best pieces, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
but the ones that interested me the longest have to do | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
with me not knowing before I start what the possibilities are. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
So if I remain as ignorant and as gracefully ignorant as I can, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
then I can ask more pertinent questions | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
and come up with more surprising physical action. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
There is a piece I wanted to do. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
It sort of mimicked something I saw in Las Vegas a couple of years ago. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
It was the Bellagio fountains. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
I wanted to figure out how to get | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
bodies to do what the water was doing. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
I've got 33 bodies falling in all these different formations | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
from all these different levels. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
One at a time, two at a time, eight at a time, 17, 20 at a time. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
They come down and land either flat on their stomachs | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
or flat on their back. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
They have about two-thirds of a second, shockingly enough, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
that's all they have, to do whatever moves they want to do, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
flip, turn, rotate, twist. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
They have to then organise their bodies perfectly horizontally | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
to land all at once in a perfect line. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
They have to start getting up | 0:12:00 | 0:12:01 | |
before they even land or they're stuck there for a couple of seconds | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
and then someone else is going to land on them. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
They do this activity, falling, climbing, falling, climbing | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
for about 18 minutes. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
It's the most grisly, brutal dance | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
that Streb has ever made. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
I find it the most moving. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
It's hard to find people | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
who are willing to put their bodies through this. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
A number of them have walked away. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Some of the London dancers just, you know, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
they kept getting broken noses and having their shoulders pull out | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
or feeling vertigo from some of the things we've asked them to do. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
That happens in New York too. People just run from the room. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
INDISTINCT SHOUTING | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
We have half London dancers that we've been working with for three or four months. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
I have 18 dancers I brought from the United States, from New York, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
that we've been working with for six months, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
some of them for two years. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
I think that we've married those two together in this beautiful garage. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
We are going to go out there, very much like an Olympic team, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
we are going to, really, we're going for the gold. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
From the early morning until very close to midnight, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
we are going to be doing seven events | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
all over a particular area of London. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Just a couple of notes, guys, if you all stay here. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
-You all right? -I'm good. -How long was the dance? -About 19. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
Wow! | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
One Extraordinary Day is the most difficult, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
most complex plan we've ever been able, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
with thousands of people helping us, to come up with. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
Because of a lot of co-operation from the river, from the engineers, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
from the city of London. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
From the Mayor's office, from the London Olympic Committee, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
we've got the permission to engage in these places and space. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
I can't predict how people will respond to it. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
I believe, if I'm being accurate with my aim, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
that it's something people will always remember. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
If that wasn't true I will have failed, I think. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
It's all top secret. So top secret, not even we know what's going on! | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
I'm a Leo, so keeping it a secret is very hard for me! | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
You have one day. It's one shot. It's one performance. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
I think we'll put on a pretty incredible show. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
We are not able to get on these buildings, some of these places. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
I've had to create facsimiles so I can try and imagine and replicate | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
what the physical sensation is going to be for the dancers. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
We will be on them for the first time on that One Extraordinary Day. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
We are kind of marauders of the night. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
So if you see some movement up in high places, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
at odd times, it might be us. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Next we move on to ambitions of an Olympian scale, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
but more to do with distinctive design than human endeavour. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Tom Dyckhoff took to the streets | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
to explore the merits of Olympic architecture. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
The Olympics is an institution | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
that celebrates physical perfection and sporting achievement. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
But it's also become a way of demonstrating national pride | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
and bigging up the host city | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
so that millions of people around the world and visiting tourists | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
can see just how brilliant we are. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
And nothing symbolises this more than the architecture. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
Not the old fusty stuff, the historic things, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
but the dazzling new array called Olympic architecture. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
But hosting the Olympic Games is a gamble with an awful lot of money. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
So what's the best way to spend it? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Well, the usual way is to do it is old-school, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
like Beijing 2008 or Athens 2004, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
blowing your billions on cavorting buildings that simultaneously | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
display whatever propaganda message you want. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
In Athens, that meant reminding us that when the Olympics began, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Greece ruled the world. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
And Beijing made it clear who's in charge now. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
However, once the show's moved on, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
you are usually left with rather expensive white elephants. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Remember this one? | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
No, nobody else did either. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
In Montreal 1976's case, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
it took 30 years to pay for an iconic stadium no-one's ever heard of. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
So what does London 2012's Olympic architecture represent? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
In the final phases of construction, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:35 | |
getting up close and personal is still tricky. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
But in the stakes of iconography, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
it's easy to see there are some show-stoppers. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
And in terms of Olympic white elephantitis, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
they seem fairly immune. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Cycling is a sport we're good at | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
and it looks like we're good at designing the arenas too. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
The Olympic Velodrome is camera friendly, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
but for my money, so much more. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
My second postcard-friendly lovely is the Aquatic Centre | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
by Dame Zaha Hadid. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
More of a conceptual and financial risk, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
poetic beauty like this doesn't come cheap. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
But at least it's been a gamble that's paid off | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
both practically and aesthetically. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
And then there's the main track and field stadium, a stickier prospect. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
Described by one critic as painfully pragmatic, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
it's the one venue that seems to have underwhelmed and disappointed us all in the run-up to the Games. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
Iconic, it isn't, but it's actually the most radical building of all. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
The stadium's future use is still being decided, but its architects, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Populous, made plans for it not to be here at all. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Everything you see above ground was designed | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
to be taken down like Ikea shelving and used somewhere else, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
maybe at the next Olympics. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Now, that is radical. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:56 | |
Temporary and mobile architecture of this scale is an idea | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
that dates from the 1960s and a visionary group | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
of architects known as Archigram. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
One of its founders, Peter Cook, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
was a consultant for the design of the stadium. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Often more like science fiction and fantasy, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
their futuristic designs were all about adaptability, even mobility. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
And these ideas have filtered through to many of the structures | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
built to accommodate the 2012 Games. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
This concept of the Olympics as a travelling roadshow | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
has been watered down considerably, but it has left its mark. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
With the same flexibility as a wedding marquee, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
the basketball arena may end up at the next Olympics in Rio. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
And the shooting gallery in Woolwich | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
may be seen again in Glasgow at the Commonwealth Games. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
In Athens, out of 32 sporting venues, 22 were permanent and purpose-built. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
In London, it's only six. And that shows you that something's changed. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
These buildings aren't set to be added | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
to the list of architectural Olympic follies. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
In a very British way, what is beautiful and radical about them | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
is their very practicality. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
And I believe it's this approach | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
that will become the future model for hosting the Games. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
Next up, having just directed his first feature film, ill Manors, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
and with a new album of the same name about to be released, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
there's no doubt that Plan B is a busy man. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
But he still found time to meet up with Miranda Sawyer. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
In the 1980s, a disenfranchised community | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
found a powerful new form of expression, hip-hop. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
Artists like Public Enemy took what was party music | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
and cranked up the politics and the power against Reagan's America. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
# Fight the power | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
# Fight the power. # | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
For almost three decades, the sound of hip-hop has been everywhere, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
yet its political rage has been pushed underground. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
But this year a young British artist | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
brought rap's anger back to the charts. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
Following last year's riots, 28-year-old Plan B, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
singer, rapper, actor and film maker, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
released the uncompromising track ill Manors. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
It was immediately hailed as one of the great protest songs of our time | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
and Plan B became the voice of what is known as broken Britain. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
# There's no such thing as broken Britain | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
# We're just bloody broke in Britain | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
# What needs fixing is the system | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
# Not shop windows down in Brixton | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
# Riots on the television | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
# You can't put us all in prison. # | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
What's interesting about Ben Drew aka Plan B is how he tells stories. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
He could make his urban tales of dealers, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
prostitutes and criminals seem glamorous. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Instead, he helps us understand | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
how people end up in these depressing situations. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
He makes people close and human rather than out there and alien. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
Plan B followed his single with the release | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
of his first full length film, also called ill Manors. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
Written and directed by Ben, it follows a group | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
of young people trapped in a cycle of crime and violence | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
on the fringes of East London. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
Later this month, he releases his third album, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
based on the film's soundtrack. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
-Shall we talk about a couple of the songs on the album? -Yeah. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Thinking about ill Manors the track, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
it got a lot of attention, and one of the reasons it got the attention is because the kind of hook is | 0:21:37 | 0:21:43 | |
"What you looking at, you little rich boy?" | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
People are a bit like, "Whoa, that's confrontational." | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
# Oi! I said oi! | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
# What you looking at you little rich boy? | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
# We're poor round here | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
# Run home and lock your door | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
# Don't come round here no more | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
# You could get robbed for... # | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
Obviously, I'm a rich boy now. You know, I got money. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
The way I wrote the hook was, this is what these kids think. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
So if these kids are all hoodies and chavs and scumbags, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
this is what they think of you. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
And it's fine for the newspapers to ridicule these kids | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
because they happen to come from a poorer background. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
So it should be fine to me to rap those lyrics in a rap song. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
If it gets under your skin, then good, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
maybe you know then how it feels for those kids. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
For me, it's the newspapers that's perpetuating this class war. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
# Keep on believing what you read in the papers | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
# Council estate kids scum of the earth | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
# Think you know how life on a council estate is | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
# From everything you've ever read about it or heard. # | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
It's coming up to like a year since the riots. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
What do you think that anniversary means? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
Who knows? Like, it could still happen again this year, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
it could happen at any time. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
I don't think enough has been done, really, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
to change people's attitudes. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
A lot of these kids, I don't think they are bad. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
I think they're just misled and I think they're acting out | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
on stuff that has happened to them from their past. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
You've gotta sit them kids down and say, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
"Listen. All that stuff that happened to you, that is not fair, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
"but stuff you're doing now, you're responsible for it. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
"Those people that done that bad stuff to you all those years ago, they're not doing that any more." | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
# You used to rap every day | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
# Looking for the devil's pain | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
# The young soul's dad went to jail | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
# Listen when you hear them say. # | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
If I hadn't been, become as successful as I did, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
I would still be looked down upon as some chav from a council estate, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
which I'm not, you know what I mean? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
So someone had to stand up for them kids. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
If that's what people, when people look at me, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
they assume I'm from a council estate | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
and I'm white trash, then I guess that's what I am. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
Given that you had such great success with Strickland Banks | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
and if you think about soul music, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
it has got a history of kind of social change. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
If you think about Marvin Gaye, What's Going On, something like that, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
soul music can also be used in that way. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
You could have put those sentiments in a soul album. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
The thing is, with soul music, or the Strickland Banks music, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
unless you look for that story that's within it, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
it can just be a collection of songs. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
# She said I love you boy, I love you so | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
# She said I love you baby | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
# Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. # | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
Plan B's breakthrough success came with his soul-infused second album, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
The Defamation Of Strickland Banks. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
The record reached number one in the charts, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
but it's a sound he's put on hold for his current crusade. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
Nothing spells it out better than hip-hop. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
So with the ill Manors single, for instance, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
that got under people's skin | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
because I used the vehicle of hip-hop | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
to really kind of talk about the issue at hand. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
Another artist with his unique take on British society | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
is punk poet John Cooper Clarke, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
who makes a surprising cameo in ill Manors. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
I was very pleased to see John Cooper Clarke in ill Manors. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
I'm always happy to see that man. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
How come you brought him in? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
For me, he is a British rapper | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
who was rapping long before a lot of other people. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
The bloody pies are bloody old | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
The bloody chips are bloody cold | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
The bloody beer is bloody flat | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
The bloody flats have bloody rats | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
The bloody clocks are bloody wrong | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
The bloody days are bloody long | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
It bloody gets you bloody down | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
Evidently Chickentown. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
He's like so northern, innit, he's so him in the language | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
that he's using. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
I've written a lot of Cockney-inspired kind of raps | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
because of John Cooper Clarke. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
For me, it's like if you're a hip-hop artist in this country, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
you need to listen to that man. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
Pity the fate of young fellows | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
Too long abed without sleep | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
With their complex romantic attachments | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
I look on their sorrows and weep | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
They don't get a moment's reflection | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
There's always a crowd in their eye | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
Pity the plight of young fellows | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Regard all their worries and cry. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
I'm not one of those artists, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
I don't think I'll ever release a pop rap record, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
where I'm still a rapper | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
but I'm only rapping about your stereotypical kind of things. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
-Good times? -Good times, you know, love. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
20 inch rims, hos. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
All that stuff, you know what I mean? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
-Thanks very much for fitting us in. -Thank you, yeah. Thanks. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Next week on the Culture Show, actress Fiona Shaw | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
talks poetry with Cerys Matthews. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Alastair Sooke and Akram Khan visit Tate Modern's new oil tanks. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
And I get into the Olympic spirit | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
with my very own mobile movie marathon. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
But we play out from Britain's oldest surviving structure, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
Stonehenge, transformed this week into a fire garden | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
by outdoor alchemists, Compagnie Carrabosse. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Good night. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:25 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 |