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MUSIC: "You're Gonna Make Me Love You" by Sandi Sheldon | 0:00:01 | 0:00:06 | |
Northern soul is the musical religion that refused to die. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
Based on a devotion to obscure American soul music, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
this underground dance scene exploded across Britain in the 1970s. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
At its peak, people travelled hundreds of miles to dance | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
all night, defying mainstream fashions and the charts. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
For a time, places that had been music hall jokes hosted | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
some of the coolest nightclubs in the world. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Northern soul was the birth of late-night dance | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
culture in Britain and I was there. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
# You gonna make me want you You gonna make me want you | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
# You gonna make me need you, baby You gonna make me need you | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
# You gonna make me love you You gonna make me love you... # | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
It's the 40th anniversary of the first Wigan Casino all-nighter | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
and this music still haunts me. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
For its devotees, Northern soul is a way of life and even now, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
it is perhaps the biggest underground music scene in the UK. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:13 | |
But why? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:14 | |
We were young, white, working class, thin, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
for reasons we'll come to, but we loved obscure black music. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
This was pre-Thatcher, pre-punk - welcome to the mid-1970s. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
This is how we looked. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
This is what was on TV. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
MUSIC: "Love Me For A Reason" by The Osmonds | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
And this is what we were supposed to dance to. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
This is how we reacted. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
MUSIC: "Self Soul Satisfaction" by Earl Jackson | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
So, picture the scene - electricity blackouts have cut the working | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
week to three days, there's industrial unrest... | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
..football violence... | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
terrorism and bad fashion. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
Though I'd like to be able to pretend that, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
as a future economics journalist, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
I was gripped by the crisis we were living through | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
but I was bored with it, bored with pop music and now, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
right on my doorstep, was something underground and dangerous. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
One Saturday night, I left home with a change of clothes, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
telling my mum I was staying with a friend but that was a lie. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
In fact, age 15, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
I was going to probably the greatest nightclub in the world. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
MUSIC: "Blowin' Up My Mind" by The Exciters | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
At its height, Wigan Casino was pulling in crowds of up | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
to 2,000 people every Saturday night from 2:00am | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
until 8:00am on a Sunday morning. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
You'd get to Wigan around midnight | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
and all the ordinary people had melted away and the streets were | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
just full of hundreds of young kids ready to dance to Northern soul. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
Take it easy, please! | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
By 1:30am, the queue was about ten-deep and you had to shove | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
your way in and then edge along the wall till you got to the front. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
All the while, people were buying and selling records and drugs | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
and as for the door policy, one bouncer and you were in. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
Stop pushing at the back! | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
MUSIC: "If This Is Love (I'd Rather Be Lonely)" by The Precisions | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
On the dance floor, it felt like, well, freedom. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
It felt like finding a new family. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
And a small part of me is still always there. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
But what is Northern soul? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
All we knew then was that we loved the music, it was like Motown | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
but rougher, the emotions more raw. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
This was music made by unknown black singers in tiny | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
studios for local labels in America's industrial heartland. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
Most of the time, we had no idea what they looked like. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Some tracks were only ever demos and for many of the records, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
only a few hundred were ever pressed. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
And it was this obscurity that fascinated us. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
Soul music had exploded into the British charts during the 1960s. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
MUSIC: "Uptight (Everything's Alright)" by Stevie Wonder | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
But the super-cool mods, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
who went to clubs like the Twisted Wheel in Manchester, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
wanted harder-edged sounds to distinguish themselves from the mainstream. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Some DJs started going to America to dig through crates of old vinyl, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
stacked up in warehouses, to feed our appetite for soul. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Northern soul was about wanting records that had flopped | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
because they had been overlooked, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:12 | |
it was about finding the hit that nobody else had found. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
It's artists trying to be The Supremes, The Temptations | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
or Marvin Gaye who didn't have the money to make sophisticated | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
records so the records are slightly out of tune | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
and slightly rough round the edges. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
You'll never find a bad Northern soul record, you know, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
the quality control is out of this world. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
You know, you listen to those records, you think, "Why wasn't this | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
"a smash?" We thought that at the Twisted Wheel but we didn't | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
care cos we didn't have anything to do with the pop world, you know. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
We thought pop music was for morons. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
MUSIC: "It's The Beat" by Major Lance | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
The term "Northern soul" was coined by music journalist Dave Godin | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
when he noticed that northern football fans, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
coming to his record shop in London, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
kept asking for heavy dance beat records nobody had heard of. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
I think the soul music you might hear on the radio would probably | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
have been sugary sweet, a lot of them. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
I mean a lot of the labels started to add strings about 1964-65, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
and that was to get into a larger audience, a white audience. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
There was a more earthy feel to Northern soul. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
I mean I did once term Northern soul as "deep soul with a dance beat." | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
I think it was the joyous coming-together of the writers, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
the musicians, the arrangement to create a record like The Velvettes - | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
"I've Gotta Find Me Somebody", which is | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
almost like a religious experience when you listen to that record. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Just the intensity that's gone into it all. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
MUSIC: "I've Got to Find Me Somebody" by The Velvettes | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
# I'm gonna find me somebody | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
# Whoo! Gotta find me somebody | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
# I'm gonna find me somebody | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
# Whoo! Gotta find me somebody... # | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
The Twisted Wheel was shut down in the early '70s | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
but the flame had been lit. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
A circuit of all-nighters sprang up, places like the Golden Torch | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
in Stoke and Blackpool Mecca would become legendary. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
Suddenly, the venues our dads and granddad had danced | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
ballroom in were repopulated but with black music. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Bit by bit, youth clubs, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
which had been home to kids dancing like zombies on Top Of The Pops were | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
infiltrated by soul boys practising their back drops and their spins. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
And Elaine Constantine's soon-to-be-released feature film | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
"Northern Soul" captures perfectly what happened for a lot of us. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
So this is what? This is the Torch? This is the Twisted Wheel period. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
Twisted Wheel. You can really see the mod influence then. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
And then it changes when it gets to Wigan. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
Yeah, the hair got longer, the sideburns got longer. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
God, I remember that. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
Working class culture was very pub-orientated, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
it was very pop-orientated. Mm-hmm. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
What were Northern soul people doing | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
when they created that sub-culture, do you think? | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
It was an elitism, kind of aspirational thing. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
There was a kind of special thing about Northern soul that | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
elevated you out of the day-to-day. Let's see you on that floor. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
Frankie Valli's "The Night." | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
The idea that it didn't sound cheesy and commercial was a big appeal cos, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
you know, no-one wants to be spoon-fed shite from the charts, do they? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:39 | |
I was in a youth club | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
and the whole experience of the music with these lads who | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
were like older lads from school who would never show any emotion | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
were suddenly in this, kind of... | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
You know, dramatic situation where they were a spectacle | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
and they didn't give a shit. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
I said to my cousin, my older cousin, "What's this?! What is it? | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
"What's going on?" She went, "Oh, it's Northern soul." | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
MUSIC: "The Night" by Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
We sort of took over when we got going | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
and there were still people hanging around who were into Status Quo | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
or whatever who were really annoyed about it | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
but there was nothing they could do. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
For me, Northern soul, more than anything, is about the people. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
It's about the characters that it attracts, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
how extreme they are, how obsessive they are. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
You know that every single person is going through every | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
beat of that record with you and you know that when you do that... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
CROWD CLAP IN UNISON | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
..it's all going to happen at that moment | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
and it's that sort of feeling of like... | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
It's almost like you're all running the same race together, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
do you know what I mean? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
And then that break's coming up, you're like, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
"Here we go, are we all ready for this? Right." | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
Bang! | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
And you're up there and you're spinning and whatever and you can just... | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
In your periphery, you can just see it all happening around you | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
and everyone else is locked into it as well. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
You're making me remember a lot, actually. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
It was quite exotic in a way cos we were listening to black | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
people's voices from America and that was weird, you know. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
We didn't even know any black people, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:15 | |
there were hardly any black families in our town. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
So, it was like something very special. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
This Northern soul, it's actually from America. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
MUSIC: "I Want to Testify" by The Parliaments | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
# Friends | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
# Inquisitive friends | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
# Are asking me what's come over me? # | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
There's something weirdly romantic about unknown black kids | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
from no-hope towns in America making these records that then | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
communicate across time | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
and space with white kids from equally no-hope towns in Britain. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:52 | |
It's only a few years ago that I actually got to go to Detroit | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
and Chicago. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
I covered the housing crisis there and it was | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
heartbreaking to see the birthplaces of soul reduced to slums. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
But I met people quite surprised to find a white guy obsessed | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
with soul singers few people in Motor City could still remember. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
What's also striking is the way those records go on communicating. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Many of the original people are still on the scene, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
having followed that old Wigan motto: | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
"Keep The Faith." | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
This is certainly the case for Pete and Susan Davies from Nottingham. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
They're getting ready to go to the Stoke all-nighter, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
one of the biggest in the country. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
I don't think it's changed, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
it doesn't change even from when you're sort of 15, 16, to even now. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
Oh, no. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
You know when people say they're living for the weekend? It's true. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
The rest of the week's just a rest period in-between. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
On the Saturday, it's a soul nighter, then on Sunday, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
an all-dayer, then probably another nighter. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
And there's one on the Bank Holiday Monday as well. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
Yeah, we do that as well, don't we? | 0:12:00 | 0:12:01 | |
I mean a lot of us lasses, you know, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
we wanted to go out with lads who were dancers. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Didn't want to know anybody else. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
If they were a good dancer, they were there, I'll tell you. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
It's me, you mean? Exactly. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
I think it was a bit of one-upmanship, you know? | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
They started with really quite wide trousers, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
they got wider and wider and wider as people tried to better each other. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Multiple pockets, multiple buttons on the sleeves. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
They are all the same shoe but different colours. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
That's my baby, that is. That one there. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Over the years, we've seen our friends, including ourselves, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
go through divorces and things like that. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
I mean they've not had partners that are not...sharing that love. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
It can be very... | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
..very stretching for a relationship. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
And they can't understand that passion, that drive, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
that you need to go. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
It's something you need to do. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
MUSIC: "'Cause You're Mine" by The Vibrations | 0:12:57 | 0:13:03 | |
# I don't care what your friends say | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
# Oooh | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
# I'm going to love you anyway | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
# Cos you're mine You're mine | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
# Mine You're mine | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
# Mine Mine, mine, mine | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
# Oh, baby, you're mine Mine, mine, mine... # | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
I was born in 1961. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
I'm one of the originals, back in the day, still on the soul scene | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
and it doesn't matter where I go, I always feel welcome. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
You meet different people from all walks of life. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Believe it or not, you get judges, solicitors, police, you know, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
all sorts of people. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
MUSIC: "You Should O' Held On" by 7th Ave Aviators | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
# There's been something that I've | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
# Been longing to say | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
# It's been on my mind for such a long time... # | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
It just took over my life, basically. It is a way of life. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
It's like when a song comes on and you know it, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I just go in my own world, I sing it, and that's me, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
no-one will disturb me through that song. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
# And all I've got to say is | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
# You shoulda held on just a little tighter | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
# Cos when I needed you, you were never there, girl | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
# You shoulda held on just | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
# A little tighter | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
# And showed me that you cared... # | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
I love dancing. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
If I haven't danced half the night, I haven't enjoyed it. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
If my wife said to me, "It's either me or Northern soul," | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Northern soul would come on top every time. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
And you can print it. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
MUSIC: "I Feel Alright" by Turley Richards | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
# All right | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
# Hey now | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
# I've found a new lover | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
# She's everything that I could need | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
# And I feel all right | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
# I want to feel the feel of her touch | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
# And feel all right | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
# You know that I feel like shouting | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
# And I feel like screaming that I feel all right | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
# I feel all right | 0:15:38 | 0:15:44 | |
# I feel all right... # | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
I haven't been to an all-nighter for over 30 years but I think somewhere, | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
I must have some kind of muscle memory of how to do the dancing. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
Fran Franklin first went to Wigan in 1975, the same year as me. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
If you remember, back then, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
guys weren't really upfront on the dance floor, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
they were sort of more like standing along the edges, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
eyeing up all the girls thinking, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
"Oh, I'd love to get a slow dance with her." But it wasn't like | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
that on the Northern soul scene, it was pretty much a blokes thing. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
Where do we think the dance style came from? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Do we know whether American dance styles had anything to do with it? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
I don't think so because I think, at the time, it was | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
all about Soul Train and that's all about hips and boogie | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
and disco and stuff like that so I think it came from Bruce Lee. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:42 | |
Really? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:43 | |
All them rugged boys that had been to see | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Bruce Lee at the cinema...thought, "Oh, you can use these moves..." | 0:16:45 | 0:16:52 | |
..show off... | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
be damn hot on that dance floor | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
and all the girls will come flocking to us for a change. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
I think that's the secret. It didn't completely work for me but... | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
I've got a memory of being like this - one, two, three and one, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
two, three. My mind goes in threes. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Yeah, two, three, but it's not, it's... One, two... | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Well, what am I missing? What should I be doing? Go on, go on. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
One, two, three, turn, one, two, three, four. One...three... | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
See, I'm missing one. I can't seem to... | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
When you're doing your change-over, that's a one-two. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
When you change direction, that's your fourth step. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
So do you want to give me a spin? Right, OK. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
You can't do it by thinking about it, it's this. Oh, you just do it. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
That's it. And you keep... With the right shoes, it's fine. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
That was pretty good. Then you finish it with doing that. Yep. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
But I'm not sure I can even get away with touching the floor. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Get down and do a drop, there you go! I did it. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:47 | |
But you've got to push your knees in a bit more | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
and have your knees over your feet. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
You've got to get your knees over you feet? Yes. Right. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
I don't think we'll be practising that one today. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
You've not got the right shoes on, we'll leave it at that. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Shall we do a bit of Northern soul dancing? Shall we? Let's have a go. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
MUSIC: "Out On The Floor" by Dobie Gray | 0:18:05 | 0:18:11 | |
# Yeah, yeah, yeah | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
# Babe, it's out of sight... # | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
What did Wigan mean to you in your life? | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
This is the bit that gets me. It meant everything. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
Like, I grew up in a place called Muirhouse in Edinburgh | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
and my mum was on her own, there was four of us, and I spent most of | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
my time as the big sister, I had to cook and do all the chores and stuff. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
So the minute that the soul scene started, my mum was like, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
"OK, that's your outlet. Off you go." | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
What did it feel like to be black in that immensely white, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
working class scene? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
Well, for me, it was like I fit in, I've got a family. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:06 | |
Every single person that I ever met on the scene | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
felt like they were my brother or my sister. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
We were all...we are the Northern soul crew. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
We went through good times, we lost people together, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
but we came together at the end of it as one. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
I haven't done that for 30-something years. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
You had to be fit to dance Northern soul but not just that. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
Here you go, mate. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:44 | |
Illegal drugs, speed, usually amphetamines | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
stolen from pharmacists, were a big part of the sub-culture. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
Essentially, dancers were overdosing on slimming pills or | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
anti-depressants and you had to be as expert in the names of drug | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
companies as record labels. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
How dependant was Northern soul on amphetamines? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
Very dependant. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
It couldn't have happened without the drugs? No. Why? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
The music was fast. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
You couldn't drink and maintain that kind of energy. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
It was a completely nocturnal lifestyle. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
For a lot of kids, it became all-encompassing, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
they couldn't keep their jobs down, they couldn't live a normal life. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
It was an obsession. Yeah. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
When the rave scene happened at the end of the '80s, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
it was almost exactly the same as Northern soul to me. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
It was essentially 4/4 beat music with thousands of kids going | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
to all-nighters. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Swap speed for ecstasy and you've essentially got the same scene. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
By the late '70s, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
Northern soul was beginning to splinter into different factions. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
Some people wanted to stick with the old '60s sounds | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
but I'd become more interested in how black music was | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
evolving into disco, hip-hop and funk. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
# See that black boy over there runnin' scared | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
# His old man in a bottle | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
# He done quit his 9 to 5 | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
# He drink full-time and now he's livin' in a bottle... # | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
In 1977, a Granada film about the casino was seen by up | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
to 20 million people. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
It helped put what had been a small, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
underground scene in front of the whole country. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
But the casino was forced to close its doors for the last | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
time in 1981 for a civic centre extension that was never built. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:46 | |
For many, this was the end of an era. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
If Wigan shut down, I wouldn't know what to do. It'd be like... | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
Instant nostalgia, that would be it. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
You'd think, "God, I'm going | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
"to be looking back for the rest of my life." | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
I wouldn't really be able to cope. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
That was how a lot of us felt then. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
We couldn't imagine life without the weekly buzz of Wigan. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
But as Dave Withers, star of the original Wigan Casino film, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
proves... | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
..life does go on. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
I got married, had two children, got divorced, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
spent a lot of time in America buying records and ended up moving up there | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
about 12 years ago, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
and I occasionally visit England probably about once a year. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
So, yeah, life goes on. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
But the Northern soul scene also carried on. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
It's the first law of sociology - | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
all youth sub-cultures eventually come back. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
In a small hall in Wigan, people from the Spotify | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
generation are wearing, well, very wide pants and dancing to vinyl. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:02 | |
They call themselves Wigan Young Souls. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Our aim was to bring a younger audience in, we knew that | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
if we did play this music that this younger audience had never | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
heard before, that they would grow to love it. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
In the '70s, there was stuff like Bee Gees being played | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
and now there's stuff like... | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
I don't know, Rihanna and what not but it's not the same as soul music. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
It's not pure. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
MUSIC: "There Was A Time" by Gene Chandler | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
# There was a time | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
# When I used to dance | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
# There was a time | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
# When I used to prance | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
# Dig me now, baby, ha | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
# Don't worry 'bout later, ha | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
# Here's a dance I used to do | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
# They call the mash potatoes | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
# Ahhh... # | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
More and more young people are getting into it and we are | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
passionate about the music and we're passionate about us dancing. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
It's just life. Mmm. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Like, if I was to go clubbing, it just wouldn't be for me. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
The music's rubbish, people usually start fights and stuff. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
At soul nights, everyone's like a family. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
And it's an expanding family. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
Dozens of events take place every week with an all-nighter | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
happening somewhere in the country almost every weekend. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Northern soul today has become part of a global culture. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
There are nights held from Tokyo to Dubai. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
MUSIC: "Tainted Love" by Gloria Jones | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
It's influenced musicians, designers and choreographers | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
and some of the scene's best-known songs have been re-imagined | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
and remixed into global hits. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
But I'm still not sure what it'll feel like to go back after so long. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
I've not been to one of these for 35 years | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
and my big fear in coming here was that it would be a bunch of old, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
sad Northern blokes re-living their youth but it isn't, really. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
However, we can do something about that. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
MUSIC: "I'm Where It's At" by The Jades | 0:25:32 | 0:25:38 | |
# If you want someone to love you | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
# I'm where it's at Where it's at | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
# And if you need someone to hug you | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
# I'm where it's at, baby Where it's at | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
# And at night when your feet are cold | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
# I'll be there... | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
# I'm where it's at Where it's at | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
# Baby, baby... # | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
What it feels like now is what it felt like then except | 0:26:08 | 0:26:14 | |
plus 35 years in a body that can't really do it. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
But that music just takes hold of your body | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
and it took hold of my body | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
and finally made it remember how to do that step I couldn't do before. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
It's not just nostalgia because what is the same is the music | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
and some of that music captures not just something about black | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
America, it captures something about working class Britain | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
and it captures something about me. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
It is the music that still communicates with you over | 0:26:45 | 0:26:50 | |
continents and over four decades. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
I think once you're locked into that record, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
it provides that escapism that you want from music. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
You're thinking the lyrics, you're thinking the beat. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
You can hear the pain and the love and the glory in the music. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
You feel like you belong. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
Northern soul in the end, for me, is all about emotional truth | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
and what life should be like. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
MUSIC: "Time Will Pass You By" by Tobi Legend | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
# Passing seasons all but fade away | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
# Into misty clouds of autumn grey | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
# As I sit here looking at the street | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
# Little figures, quickly moving feet | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
# I'm just a pebble on the beach | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
# And I sit and wonder why | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
# Little people are running around | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
# Never knowing why | 0:28:18 | 0:28:25 | |
# Life is just a precious minute, baby | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
# Open up your eyes and see it, baby | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
# Give yourself a better chance because | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
# Time will pass you | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
# Right on by | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
# Time, time is going to pass you by so quickly | 0:28:46 | 0:28:52 | |
# And it waits for no man | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
# This big, old world is spinning like a top | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
# Come and help me while we make it stop... # | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 |