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Hello, you little charmers! | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
We're The Smiths - how d'you do? | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
This programme contains some strong language. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
They're the most important, most intelligent, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
most idiosyncratically English and most sorely missed | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
pop band of the 1980s. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
If you don't agree with that, you probably think | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
they're the most miserable act of the era. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Each to their own. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:27 | |
# You shut your mouth | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
# How can you say | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
# I go about things the wrong way... # | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
It was 30 years ago this week that Hand In Glove hit the airwaves, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
announcing the arrival of four lads from Manchester | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
who couldn't easily be placed in the pop pigeonholes of the day. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
# Hand in glove | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
# The sun shines out of our behinds... # | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
The Smiths produced four studio albums in as many years, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
crammed with 16 hit singles. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
Their music made you laugh, cry and think, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
and it left an indelible mark on a generation, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
before taking a bow in 1987, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
leaving behind an exquisite corpse of words, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
images and sounds. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
For me, growing up in Manchester in the 1980s, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
The Smiths were my band. Morrissey was my idol. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
There I am, aged 13, the budding reporter, with him - | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
the day I wangled an interview with Morrissey for my school newspaper. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
The Smiths came to mean so much more to me than your average pop group - | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
and I wasn't alone. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
They were IT. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
They were as big and as important as The Jam and the Sex Pistols - | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
and The Beatles. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
It was just something really refreshing, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
really new, really simple... and beautiful. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
You try to pass on good things to your kids, and a good thing | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
to pass on is The Smiths' music and what they stood for. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
There's a lot of guff, romantic guff, talked about rock'n'roll. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
But I do think that The Smiths were a life-changing band - | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
certainly changed my life. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
The Smiths were the product of a specific time and place. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
They formed in Manchester in 1982, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
when the post-punk generation were still facing no future, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
as the Iron Lady advanced on the north's traditional industries. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
Unemployment topped 3 million for the first time since the 1930s, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
and if that wasn't bad enough, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Eurovision was the hot ticket in Harrogate that spring. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
# I could have taken one step further and I would have been there... # | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
Against this dismal backdrop of hardship and crap pop music, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
for a lost generation, The Smiths arrived like an answered prayer. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
You've got to see them, for me, anyway, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
in the context of the darkest point of the long, dark night | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
of the northern soul, under Thatcher's | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
kind of one-woman social experiment | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
to crush the north of England underfoot. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
That alienation of people in the north feeling that | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
the establishment was against them, the government was against them, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
that was very, very pronounced. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
And then you hear that sound, that sparkling, iridescent guitar sound. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
And that voice, that operatic voice... | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
Punctured bicycle on a hillside desolate... | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
As a way of saying to the world, "Here we are," | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
it's hard to beat This Charming Man. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
# Punctured bicycle | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
# On a hillside desolate | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
# Will nature make a man of me yet? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
# When in this charming car | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
# This cha-arming man... # | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
When I first seen them on Top Of The Pops, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
they were just so odd. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:54 | |
Johnny Marr looked like this classic rock star - | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
you know, the big, red semi-acoustic guitar | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
and a turtle-neck, and I was like, wow! And he had a... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
the Brian Jones hairdo. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
Yet Morrissey just looked like | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
something that had never been seen before, with the hearing aid | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
and flowers hanging out of his back pocket. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
They just kind of exploded, didn't they? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
# I would go out tonight | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
# But I haven't got a stitch to wear... # | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
The Smiths emerged into this uncertain arena | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
that was early '80s Britain like a fully-formed gang, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
and invited you to join - to enter another world, their world. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
And the invitation came directly from their gladioli-wielding leader. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
I feel The Smiths create their world, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
and not many groups do that. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
And you can either go in, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
or you can say, "No, I want Diana Ross instead." | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
And it's your choice. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Here was no ordinary alpha male rock front man. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
Morrissey fearlessly broke the mould, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
and was a beacon to all those struggling to fit | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
into the existing '80s stereotypes, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
like market trader and aspiring fashion designer | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Lancashire lad Wayne Hemingway. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
# This charming man... # | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
30 years ago, Camden market, you were here with your first stall? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Yeah, the first stall was just over there in the corner. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Er, it was a place where... | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
All the club culture from all around the UK and Europe | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
would come here to buy their old DMs, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
to buy their second-hand long coats, their National Health specs - | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
the whole thing of the Morrissey look. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
This was the first time where the idea that you could wear | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
your dad's and your mum's or your grandma's clothes | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
and mix it with a bit of new, and mix all these different decades, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
and come up with something that was different. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
Who did that speak to at the time, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
who did that allow to come into the tribe? | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Whatever persuasion you were, you know. If you were gay, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
you could like the way that he unbuttoned his shirt, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
and the gladioli. If you were a bit hard, you could like | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
the quiff, but it all kind of crossed, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
and he knew what he was doing, but it was how he put it together. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
That's the whole secret of cool, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
is how you take things and you put it together. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
He may have been down with the underground, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
but Morrissey's effortless ascent to pop idol status | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
also won the hearts of mainstream kids in Britain. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
But unlike other chart pin-ups, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Morrissey was also after their minds. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
In Marsden, North Yorkshire, it was the words rather than the image | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
that captured the imagination of Simon Armitage. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
The moment I start listening to them, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
I'm transported back to, you know, '83, '84. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
Did it speak to you and where you were in your life at that time? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
It absolutely did. I mean, I don't think I realised it then, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
erm, but...you know, it was the language. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
And I remember listening to Reel Around The Fountain, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
not quite sure what it was about, but thinking, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
nobody else is this smart. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
# It's time the tale were told | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
# Of how you took a child | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
# And you made him old... # | 0:07:07 | 0:07:14 | |
It's such a peculiar song. It starts with a confession, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
almost an allegation, you know, "It's time the tale were told..." | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
But then it develops into this slightly subversive celebration of, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
you know, sexual awakening and a loss of innocence. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
# 15 minutes with you | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
# Well, I wouldn't say no... # | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
And it's like a lot of the great Smiths songs, it's a fantasy, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
and it never actually happened. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
It's all about imagining what something would have been like. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
And on that level, it's hugely appealing to anybody | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
who's ever felt any kind of loneliness, or... | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
that they're on the margin somewhere. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
# Oh, reel around the fountain... # | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
The Smiths gave you a sense of, "You're not on your own." | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
Well, it was like they were saying "You are on your own, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
"but there's a lot of you out there." | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
MUSIC: "Cemetery Gates" by The Smiths | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
A song like Cemetery Gates in the hands of another band | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
would be a terrible, sort of morbid piece of work. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
What you get instead is two speccy intellectuals | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
trying to out-quote each other. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
It's the opposite of what you would expect from somebody of that age | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
in a cemetery writing a song. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Morrissey's songs were packed with hidden meaning for fans | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
to discover and debate as his fantasy worlds collided with a very | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
real-world around him in post-industrial Manchester. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
# Park the car at the side of the road | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
# You should know | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
# Time's tide will smother you... # | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
The North figured large in these songs. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
They're shot through with a sort of Manchester melodrama. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
These were lyrics just full of the details of everyday, domestic life. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:37 | |
# When you walk without ease | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
# On these | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
# Streets where you were raised... # | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
'The Smiths joined a long tradition of British literature, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
'theatre and film that can be described as Northern Realism | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
'and is epitomised by the British New Wave cinema | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
'of the '50s and '60s.' | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
'Morrissey particularly was clearly | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
'really immersed in that kitchen sink drama,' | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
British New Wave, those black-and-white movies like | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Billy Liar and Saturday Night And Sunday Morning, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
and particularly A Taste of Honey. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
A Taste of Honey was first performed in 1958 and written by | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Salford playwright Shelagh Delaney when she was just 18 years old. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
The film adaptation, starring Rita Tushingham, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
brought Delaney national recognition and won a raft of awards. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
Delaney's treatment of issues like race, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
gender and homosexuality and simply her depiction of | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
working-class northerners was radical at the time. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Dream of me. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
Dreamt of you last night. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
-Fell out of bed twice. -Ta-ra! | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
Morrissey's admiration for Shelagh Delaney | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
bordered on the excessive. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
In way of tribute, he condensed the entire | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
story of A Taste of Honey into the song This Night Has Opened My Eyes. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
# In a river the colour of lead | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
# Immerse the baby's head | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
# Wrap her up in The News Of the World | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
# Dump her on a doorstep, girl... # | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
I became very interested in film about people in the North, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
specifically, with their tail trapped in the door, almost, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
trying to get out, trying to get on, trying to be somebody. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
Trying to be seen. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
And I found that very appealing. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
The Smiths' identification with the grit of Northern life gave them | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
a harder, darker edge than their chart contemporaries and, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
regardless of whether songs turn up today on movie soundtracks and | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
even wedding vows, they'll for ever | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
be anchored in those Salford streets. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
They came from these streets and they sounded like it. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
They talked about the bleakness of it and lack of opportunities, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
sometimes, and the miserableness of it, | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
but they also talked about the joy. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
They made it beautiful, this place. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
'This bleakly beautiful atmosphere infused all aspects | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
'of The Smiths and it was visualised in their distinctive single | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
'and album covers, featuring images hand-picked by Morrissey himself. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
'Jo Slee worked at Rough Trade Records | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
'and oversaw the design process.' | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Basically, I would receive something like this, so it's effectively | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
a very full diagram with notations | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
of every single thing that he wanted, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
including the Pantone colours and the typeface | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
and whether it was bold or italic. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
Is this normal for a band to send in this level of detail? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
Not in my experience. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
Morrissey had a kind of artistic vision | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
that was really unique to him. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
The band themselves never appeared in their artwork. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Taking the place of the standard group shot was | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
a procession of moody photographic portraits. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
Bound together by their grainy, duotone colours, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
and minimal use of text, the gallery of famous and | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
not so famous faces - and the odd bum - were an intimate scrapbook | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
of pin-ups Morrissey wanted to share with the world. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
The cover stars seem to fall into two camps. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
You have your tough, Northern female, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
sort of uber-Coronation Street characters. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
What does that tell you? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
You tell me. What does that tell you? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
He had a fantasy of what Northern Realism was about | 0:13:33 | 0:13:39 | |
and the real loving background that they portrayed, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:45 | |
-but I always had the feeling that he somehow hadn't had that. -Mmm. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
So there's a kind of nostalgia for something that perhaps | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
was never really there. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
# Oh, Mother, I can feel... # | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
And with the male icons? | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
You can say homoerotic, if you want to, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
but, for me, there was more to it than that. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
# And as I climb into an empty bed | 0:14:10 | 0:14:16 | |
# Oh, well, enough said... # | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
It was about... Perhaps representative | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
of who he longed to be, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:26 | |
what was in his heart, really. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
And that's another thing that makes them beautiful, I think, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
is that they're all about | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
what Morrissey used to call his "unusable heart." | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Morrissey used the power of the visual image to send | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
coded messages to the outside world. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
However, when it came to burning issues that were close | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
to his "unusable heart", he was happy to resort | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
to a more direct approach. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
Meat is murder. A very direct political message | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
and I was already a vegetarian by the time that came out, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
but, you know, it converted a huge number of people to vegetarianism. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Put me that way for ten years. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
# This beautiful creature must die | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
# This beautiful creature must die | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
# A death for no reason | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
# And death for no reason is murder... # | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
We feel that probably music should be used in order to make | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
serious statements, because so many groups sell | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
masses and masses of records | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
and don't raise people's level | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
of consciousness in any direction and we find that quite sinful. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
MACHINE SCREECHES | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
What The Smiths brought was politics | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
that you could actually completely understand. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
Meat is murder. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
Anti-cruelty. Anti-Thatcher. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
It was just a brilliant approach to politics, really. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
If The Smiths were anti-anything, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
it was the entire British establishment, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
particularly the royal family and Thatcher's government. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Their 1986 album and its title song, The Queen Is Dead, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
was their state of the nation address. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
# The queen is dead, boys | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
# And it's so lonely on a limb... # | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
The Queen Is Dead I think musically is one of their most powerful | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
songs and has got a real sort of | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
anger bubbling below the surface. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
For a certain section of people, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
a certain generation of people, that did have a real impact. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
# A crack on the head | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
# Is what you get for not asking... # | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
Few bands since The Smiths have so openly attacked the state | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
and their oppositional stance is still used as a stick to bash | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
the powers that be, even if those powers profess to be friends themselves. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
As someone who claims to be an avid fan of The Smiths, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
the Prime Minister will no doubt be rather upset this week to hear | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
that both Morrissey and Johnny Marr have banned him from liking them. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
David Cameron purports to be a Smiths fan, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
but I'm very sceptical that he actually ever was. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
The Smiths are, of course, the archetypal student band. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
If he wins tomorrow night's vote, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
what songs does he think students will be listening to? Miserable Lie, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
I Don't Owe You Anything or Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now? | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
CHEERING | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
I expect that if I turned up, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
I probably wouldn't get This Charming Man. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
And if I went with the Foreign Secretary, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
probably William, It Was Really Nothing. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:17:30 | 0:17:31 | |
Are you saying that you can't be right wing and like The Smiths? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
I think maybe some people just don't listen to the lyrics. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
You know, there's a lot of Tories that like Eton Rifles | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
and don't seem to realise that it's not their school theme song. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
'The Smiths will always be remembered for causing controversy, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
'but, for many fans, Morrissey's political posturing | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
'and even his literary lyrics were mere dressing for the real art | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
'being produced by the band.' | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
My love of most things musical is strictly for the music. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
The shit going on around it, that's irrelevant to me. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
Morrissey was going on about poetry and vegetarianism | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
and, you know, Johnny was going on about The Rolling Stones | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
and T Rex and The Stooges and I was like... | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
"Hmm, yeah." | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
# Each household appliance | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
# Is like a new science in my town... # | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
Where does Johnny Marr's guitar playing rank for you? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
I've seen him in the studio do things that are | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
so simple on a guitar, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
yet so...difficult at the same time. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
That does your head in, do you know what I mean? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
MUSIC: "Nowhere Fast" by The Smiths | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
How hard is it to play like Johnny Marr? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
It's impossible, you can't. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
You know, if you're making a record and the producer's saying, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
"Try some of that Johnny Marr stuff," | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
you'd better get on the phone and get him, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
because you can't do it. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
That's not him now, by the way. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
He invented the style which I'd never heard before, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
it's a true original. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
Johnny Marr's riffs are a thing of legend in British indie rock, but to | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
credit him as simply a jangly guitar hero would be faint praise indeed. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
# And when I'm lying in my bed... # | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
Marr is without doubt the absolute gel that binds each track together. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
He somehow uses the guitar like an orchestrator uses an orchestra. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
'Classical conductor Charles Hazlewood was still | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
'a school choirboy when he recognised | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
'the sophistication in The Smiths' arrangements.' | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
So let's say you've got, you know, a strummed semi-acoustic guitar, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
which definitely is a kind of binding agent. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
And then elements of lead just coming in and out. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
Bits of phrase picked out, the odd note, maybe a chord here and there. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
Shafts of different kinds of light being just exposed to the whole, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
just to add extra elements or point something up. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
It's a really, really brilliant and rare talent. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
Morrissey and Marr were more Elton and Bernie than | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
Lennon and McCartney in the way they wrote, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
Marr producing cassette tapes of musical arrangements | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
for Morrissey to overlay his free-form vocal melodies. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
Whether they knew it or not, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
the resulting sound tapped deep into our national psyche. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
We're a melancholy race. We're quietly glum. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
But we're sort of quietly accepting. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
We've never had a revolution, after all. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
There's a key element, I think, to The Smiths' musical or | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
harmonic or melodic style, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
which I think sums this up. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
Basically... | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
That's a consonant chord, a basic chord in root position. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
Now, there's an extra note you can add to it, which is | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
that, which is a seventh. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
Now, either in its pure form like that, or flattened, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
it's right at the heart of the blues. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
You know, it's the single most important kind of blue note | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
in the blues and it's sort of completely redolent of longing, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
of a sense of sort of dissatisfaction | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
which you don't find in a lot of other guitar-based songs. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
I mean, the Beatles were much less full | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
of these kinds of chords than The Smiths. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
CHEERING AND SHOUTING | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
MUSIC: "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" by The Smiths | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
# Take me out tonight... # | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
The history of pop is littered with sad songs, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
but few acts have been able to capture this emotion | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
and turn it into an arena-filling anthem quite like The Smiths. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
# Driving in your car | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
# I never, never want to go home | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
# Because I haven't got one | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
# Anymore... # | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
I wondered how many times people have either taped | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
or burnt or downloaded | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
or written out the lyrics to that song and sent it to somebody else. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
It's just a beautiful, brilliant, all-purpose pro forma love song. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:27 | |
# Take me out tonight... # | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
-CHARLES: -A cool kind of anthemic quality that comes in the chorus, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
the double-decker bus thing, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:36 | |
it's that moment when all these slightly murky chords... | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
..all with a little bit of dirt in them | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
and then you get that little break. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
# And if a double-decker bus | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
# Crashes into us | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
# To die by your side | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
# Is such a heavenly way to die... # | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Suddenly it's kind of like lovely, primary colour, like a... | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
You know, it's just a lovely phrase. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
Of course people are going to wrap their lungs around that. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
We're all pulled together in this kind of wonderful sense | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
of mass communal indulgence. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
# And if a ten-ton truck | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
# Kills the both of us | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
# To die by your side | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
# Well, the pleasure, the privilege is mine... # | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
Halfway through there's, you know, 6,000 people singing it. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
You're thinking, "Essentially this is a song about death!" | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
And yet, because it's The Smiths, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
it's got a kind of spring in its step. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
You know, it's E major. That's a nice, bright, open key. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
If you're going to get killed by a ten-ton truck, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
-you want it in E major, I suppose. -I think you probably do! | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
And to sing along with it. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
I'd like an afternoon in a hotel with some cream tea and you playing this in the corner. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:24:01 | 0:24:02 | |
It's got to be raining outside. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
We probably need to be in Manchester, as well. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
# There is a light that never goes out | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
# There is a light that never goes out... # | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
The universal appeal of The Smiths' hits travelled | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
way beyond Manchester city limits, as a fervent following spread | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
amongst angst-ridden teens across the world. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
In the States, a gun-toting fan once attempted to hijack | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
Colorado's airwaves in a bid to have back-to-back Smiths records | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
replace the standard top 40 fare. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
# Born in the USA... # | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
He didn't actually make it past reception | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
at KRXY radio in Denver, but the incident passed into legend. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
And there are battalions of other like-minded, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
but, thankfully, unarmed, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
high school kids across the pond whose lives have been | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
saved by this perversely exotic group from Manchester, England. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
I grew up in the sort of Bermuda Triangle | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
where Bruce Springsteen meets Jon Bon Jovi. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
A culture where you're expected to be a winner | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
and be on the cheerleading team and to be perfect and blonde and perky. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:07 | |
The Smiths were saying, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
"You know, it's all right to be a bit of a nerd | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
"and wear spectacles and not have a date and be on your own." | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
They created a club of outsiders | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
and...I felt like part of that club, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
even 3,000-odd miles away. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
This world of Whalley Range and Rusholme | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
and '60s film references, did it resonate with you? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
Did you have any idea what this world was? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
I was desperate to decode everything. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
So yes, I had to go away and find out what Tizer was | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
and where Newport Pagnell was and, you know, Rusholme. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
But all these things were really romantic and quite glamorous. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
I mean, I just thought, "If I can just get to Manchester, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
"then all of my prayers will be answered." | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
# Panic on the streets of London... # | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
'Well, Amy finally did make it to Manchester, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
'and settled in London, where she's now the ringleader of | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
'a new generation of obsessive Smiths fans. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
'She's written a stage play devoted to Morrissey and, every now | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
'and then, she rounds up her fellow aficionados | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
'at events like Smithsfest | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
'at London's Institute of Contemporary Arts, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
'to worship and celebrate their band.' | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
Good evening, apostles, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
and welcome to Smithsfest at the ICA! | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
# But there's panic on the streets of Carlisle | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
# Dublin, Dundee, Humberside | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
# I wonder to myself... # | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
My mum was actually Morrissey's cleaner! | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
CHEERING | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
This is inside Smithsfest, a very bizarre gathering of people. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
You can have your photograph mocked up outside Salford Lads Club, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
or your quiff resurrected. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
-Hi. -Hi. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:55 | |
Let's give it a go. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
# Burn down the disco | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
# Hang the blessed DJ... # | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
You are done, ready and quiffed up. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
20 years since I last had a quiff. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
How's it look? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
# Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
# Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ... # | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
Can I have a round of applause for my necklace, please? | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
CHEERING | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
# Hang the DJ, hang the DJ... # | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Hardly Salford Lads Club. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
But The Smiths are going to be imitated, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
analysed and celebrated in there until the small hours. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
If quiffing your hair up | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
and dressing up like Morrissey isn't your bag, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
we can all celebrate that it was 30 years ago | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
this weekend that The Smiths invited us into their achingly beautiful, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
melancholic, oppositional world. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
It's a light which will never go out. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
# Sing me to sleep | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
# Sing me to sleep | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
# I'm tired and I | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
# I want to go to bed... # | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Like all the great bands, it's not something that you can sum up | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
in one nifty sentence and say, "It's because of that." It's impossible. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
So people like you spend 30 years trying | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
and they'll probably take another 30 years. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
We'll still come back to the same thing - | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
they were just fucking great. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
# Sing to me | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
# I don't want to wake up | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
# On my own any more... # | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
There isn't a room to The Libertines like this anywhere in the world. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
There isn't room to Spandau Ballet anywhere in the world like this. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I mean, whatever you think of it, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
it gives you an idea of just what they meant to...us. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
I was going to say "them", but us. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
# Deep in the cell of my heart | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
# I really | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
# Want to go | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
It's easy to go, "This is a bit silly," but this is | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
an expression of people's love for them, know what I mean? | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
You and I both know when we leave here | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
-we're going to have our photo taken... -Of course we are! | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
That's it, just there. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
# Well, there must be | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
# Well, there must be... # | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
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