05/06/2013 The One Show

with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. You can say what you want about our

first guest tonight but this year she's celebrating 25 years since she

gave up her job as a hairdresser to become an international pop star.

And as for our second guest, having played Moll Flanders it was

inevitable she would get off with the Doctor. Please welcome Sharleen

Spiteri and Alex Kingston! A very good evening. Somebody scripted that

for me Alex, I would never have put it that way, but we did see you

kissing Matt Smith, quite the treat. Were you surprised by his

announcement that he was going to leave after the end of this one?

wasn't surprised as we had a chat about the potential. How long about

was that? ? I'm not going to say. I don't want to spoil it. At some

stage you have to move on and we did discuss when would be the right time

in a young actor's career if they were very associated with a

particular role. You have to move on, otherwise it becomes very

difficult, because you get typecast. Who would you like to see moving in?

I don't know. They say it might be a woman, you see. Dame Helen Mirren

has been mentioned. I don't think I could kiss her though.

LAUGHTER Well... There is always a first time. I thought, are you going

to be the doctor? A few years ago there was chat about that but she is

married to him, essentially. lots of weird morphing stuff goes

on, so you never know. And how did your audition go? Let's not star. I

can't mention. Tonight we've got someone you are fans of and she will

be winning more fans with The White Queen on BBC One. He asked me to lie

with him and I refused, and if he dies, I will regret that forever. I

regret it now. You are a girl from a House of Lancaster and you live in a

country that's divided. You may not fall in love with a York King unless

there is profit in it for you. writer and actress Philippa Gregory.

Hi Philippa. We know that The White Queen is going to be a massive hit,

ten hours of it on BBC One. We can't wait. Are you happy with the way it

has gone so far from what you've seen? I'm delighted. I've seen it

all. Well, the sample of it there, you've got these fantastically

strong women characters, an amazing period of English history. Although

we know of it we don't know a lot about it in detail. This visually

beautiful very cinematic television series. We will discuss it at length

as the evening progresses. And we be testing your historical knowledge,

all three of you. This is tough, this. We are going to ask you to

guess the famous face from the tights that person is wearing. Like

that! We've been playing this afternoon. I think I know who that

is. You do? Hold that thought. With the opening of the new Mary Rose

Museum and the discovery of 4,000-year-old log boats near

Peterborough wrecks are making a resurgence at the moment. But what

of the wreck hunters who devote their lives to find new Conservative

Riese. -- new Conservative Riese. The Scilly Isles, a secret location

hidden 30 feet beneath the waves. A 400-year-old shipwreck discovered

languishing on the ocean floor. The amateur wreck hunters Todd Stevens,

a local carpenter, and Robin Burrows from the landlocked West Midlands.

Their latest adventure, seven days diving by marine archaeologists sent

by English Heritage. Their objective - to prove that the wreck they found

is the flying Joan, part of Sir Walter Raleigh's fleet which sank

without trace on its final voyage. These guys are no strangers to

hunting for shipwrecks. Over the last 15 years they've found a

treasure-trove of artefacts, from ancient pottery, dominoes, coins,

even a 200-year-old musket. If it is down there, the likelihood is they

will find it. Any disasters? Plenty. Really? You dive a great many sites

just to find one of interest and you come up with a washing machine. That

was eagerly anticipated, how did that get all the way out there?

Clean washing I hope? We didn't look. How excited are you when you

find something like this? He is worse than a dog. As soon as the

engine stops he is on his kit and over the side. What makes you so

confident that this latest find is important? This is quite crudely

built. It all fits. Toby from welcomes Archaeology is leading the

team investigating the wreck site. What you can see here are the

timbers of the wreck all along here, and three guns. How important is it

to you, that amateur wreck hunters do highlight cases like this for

you? It is very important. When historic wrecks like this come to

light we hope they would be reported to the relevant authorities so they

can be protected for future generations. It is not treasure that

the archaeologists are after. It is all about getting the right wood

sample. Toby, that was your first dive. 1960s pleasure cruiser or are

you confident that's an old wreck? It is definitely the real deal. All

the evidence is pointing to a wreck for those dates. It is just finding

a bit of wood that will be the right quality of sample. We would send it

to a specialist. This ewould measure the distances between all the rings.

The tree grow grows certain amounts each year. If it is a warm year it

grows year and if it is cold, it grows less. The pattern can be

matched with other trees, so you can tell exactly where that tree came

from. Almost like a fingerprint?It is more like a bar code. The divers

are having to battle against very poor visibility, which is unusual at

this time of year. So far they haven't retrieved a sample good

enough to be analysed but after 45 minutes of under underwater saw sag

it looks like they've retrieved their bounty. This is exactly what

we were after, so it is a much thicker piece of wood. There's very

little in terms of marine borers. Hopefully we'll get some information

from it. A really productive day and a massive smile on my face, because

that last dive they came one that great sample. By the end of the week

they need two or three similar samples that they can go and

analyse. A good day. What a day and what a discovery.

Philippa, you are yet to right about Sir Walter. Have you got any plans

to include him? I'm worki through t the Plantagenets. He is Elizabethan,

a bit further on. He is this great adventurer it. He goes to America

several times and the ship is sunk after he is trying to find the

fabled city of Ed doored a o. He really -- El Dorado. It will be

great if it is the flying the Joan. Alison from English Heritage is

here. You are collating all this information from the dive. The

divers have brought some artefacts to the surface, including this

cannonball. And there's some pottery, some ceramics. The thing

we've been interested this is the wood samples. Can I ask why that's

being kept in water? It is our standard conservation guidance for

divers, to keep their finds wet, so they can get proper conservation

treatment. What do you think the chances are of this wreck being the

flying Joan? The finds that we have looked at today are 15th and 16th

century. Until we get our wood samples back and the dating we can't

be sure. That will allow us to give a date for the whole of the site. It

has been a known Anchorage for centuries, so there'll be

archaeological contamination. is a significant find, because you

know it is that age. Boats of that age are rare, regardless of whether

it is the flying Joan, it is an exciting site for us. The wreck

hunters in the film got in touch with English Heritage. What about

divers that might go down and take artefacts from a wreck and not pass

them on. How much of a problem is that? We don't set the legislation,

there's different bits of law that deal with that. We are keen to

encourage people to comply with the law. If salvage is undertaken

legitimately and if there is a museum and conservation in place,

there is no issues. I would like to encourage divers to talk to us,

because we can share our information about the known sites we know of. We

work well with the diving community. We will keep our fingers crossed

that it is the flying Joan. I have a question. When I was taught

at school, Sir Walter Raleigh was described as some sort of wonderful

nobleman, but was he really or was he a pirate? He was an adventurer.

He had guts. He was an adventurer and he was an important person of

his time. He was licensed as a pirate? He was, because the

Elizabeth and subsequently James would allow people to attack, say,

the Spanish treasure ships. They would be working as pirates but

licensed by the English Crown to do so. We were not taught that in

schools. Put it in a book, for goodness sake. Thanks again. It took

just one step for Private Nick Franklin's life to change forever.

Nick is another casualty of the war in Afghanistan, but as Dr Mark

Porter has been founding out his chances of getting back to something

like normal has been hugely helped by receive illusionary new surgery.

In October 2011 Private Nick Franklin left behind his wife and

baby son Jenson for his first tour of military duty in Afghanistan.

was hard, very hard to leave them behind and leave my wife, because

she was in bits, because she didn't expect me to go off so quickly.

four weeks after leaving home Nick suffered devastating injuries from

an IED, an improvised explosive device. The day that we went on the

patrol, I said to my mate, I've got a funny feeling that we are going to

get a contact from an IED or the Taliban themselves. Literally as I

just turned around to take one step, off it went. I was thrown up into

the air. I was screaming, "My leg! My leg! ." Within 24 hours Nick was

back in the UK with Shareen at his bedside. I remember looking at him

and he was a state. I remember kissing him and saying, everything's

going to be all right. When thetive. ED went off, my leg went to here and

the blast took the lower half of my leg outright. With the my right leg

I've had a lot of fragmentation damage from the IED. It took a

percentage of my knee away. On paper it is supposed to be my good leg,

but it is not. With a growing family Nick is determined to get back to

work but the does Abeling pain from his knee makes it seem a distant

knee. I can't stand, turning, twisting, I can just about hold my

son. It is too much weight on my knees. Confronted with complex bomb

injuries like Nick's specialists are having to push the boundaries of

orthopaedic surgery to their limits. I see you have had a lot of plastic

surgical work here. Scans show the load bearing section

of Nick's right knee is wearing away. The inside of the knee here

has been blown away and blown into pieces by a piece of shrapnel. In

Nick's case if he stands still, it doesn't hurt too much. If he tries

to move, the rough surfaces grate together and grind themselves away.

A standard knee replacement would mean cutting out what remains of

Nick's healthy ligaments and cartilage, potentially leaving him

less mobile. Using state-of-the-art 3 D scannings, they have engineered

tailor made implants with measurements so precise they will

have to be put in place by this robot. It is called extreme

orthopaedics. The robot holds the surgeon's hand and allows the

surgeon to achieve things that I couldn't achieve otherwise. If we

get this right, most people in the street will have no idea there is

anything the matter with them and he won't think there is anything the

matter most of the time. Nick is the only the third soldier

in the UK to have this surgery. think it is amazing that he has been

given that opportunity. He deserves it for what he has done for our

country. As a surgeon, being able to put a

young injured person back together again is unbelievably exciting. How

wonderful is that? Unbelievably exciting. The main thing is to get

back into a civilian job. It is your pride. It is how you want to look

after your family. Mark has given special access to

watch Nick's operation and we can see that later.

Nick, his wife and professor Cobb are here to tell us how far he has

progressed and we will chat in a while. It is good to see you all.

Nick is smiling. Charlene, you witnessed a minor

miracle, your guitarist, Ally had had a brain haemorrhage in 2009. How

is he now? He is playing guitar and touring. I mean, it is quite, it

came as such a shock, him being the youngest member of the band. He

lives a healthy lifestyle and had a grade five brain aneurysm. . ..

There were any warnings? No. It seems to be quite, it seems quite

common in musicians. But he was more than keen to get back? Oh, he

couldn't wait. Basically, he was in a coma for three months and he was

in hospital for about a year, but we thought once he started to get

better because they really said he wasn't going to live and we thought

that was the first time we really thought, he is not going to want to

go on tour and he was the one that was like "I have got to get on the

road. I have got to get out of this hospital. I have got to do what I'm

good at." It was amazing to watch him on stage and all the old memory,

he has been playing in Texas since he was 17 so all the old memory was

great. Excellent.

Wm, on a different note, but would be barking mad not to keep fit. At

least that's the view of a growing club of dog owners in Lanarkshire.

Well, after teaming up with a tour legged campanion, Sarah Mack

discovered it involves more than just a walk in the park!

With the Olympics last year and the Commonwealth Games come to go

Glasgow in 2014, more and more of us are being inspired to get off the

sofa and get fit. So I've come to Lanarkshire to join a running club,

but this one is slightly different. It not only helps us to get fit, but

our dogs too! Canicross has built up a large

following with keen runners and dog lovers alike. It is a sport which is

as healthy for man and dog. Lynnsy is a fitness fanatic who loves

running. And set-up her own club along with her fury best friend. And

like most dogs he loves to run. So explain the art of canicross. How

does it work? Well, the dog is harnessed attached to the owner with

a bungee line. The dog should be running out in front pulling you

along. Can any breed of dog do it? P-yes,

as long as the dog can run. They can all take partment

How did you get involved? contacted local running groups and

groups and asked if I could bring my dog and I wasn't able to. The power

of social media, I got in touch with like minded people and we formed a

group together and it grew from there. It changed my life. I went

from running five Ks with the dog to running marathons in the space of a

year. What do the canicross addicts like

about running with their beloved dogs? I just like it because it

makes you get really close to them. I am into running and I started

canicross. I love running. The safety side of things of running

a group is important? I would like to go places, but not on my own.

How did she cope with the running? She is really good and she pulls you

along with I is helpful when you are getting tired legs and you can

encourage her to go in front of you. Canicross has changed my dog's life

and my life. Anyone who wants to get out and ex-ear sighs their dog and

if they have -- exercise their dog and if they have a behavioural issue

this will help. I have come from a size 24 to a size

14. I am happy to stay at the back of the pack, but give it the best

you have got. When I am lagging behind at the

back, will you keep me company? will be there!

I'm off to join the rest of the pack!

I'm feeling a wee bit nervous. So the first test to run without

falling flat on my face. Thankfully, I've passed! It was exhilarating

outside on a summer's evening running with 40 other dog owners and

their dogs. Canicross is definitely Ah, he is tired. There are plenty of

dos and don'ts when it comes to canicross which can be found on our

website. But Matthew Baker has more. Make sure your dog has water. Check

the ground that your ground is running on and don't over exert your

dog. If you are running a certain distance, you have got to get back

again. Make sure your dog isn't too tired.

Philippa, do you do this with your dog? He is a big dog. He is an

independent dog. It does look like him, but Ben is more handsome.

They are very big. He is very big and he is gentle and

afession nat, but self willed. So he will go where he wants to go and if

I have to run after him sometimes and none of this co-operative

running and if I scold him, he will sit with his back to me because he

is a sulker and he won't speak to me for half an hour or so until I say,

" Shall we make up?" Talking of strong characters you have played a

lot and you started at quite a young age. We have got this to show you.

Oh no. Sorry, I didn't realise. You did

that on purpose. That's right. I'm going to do it again. If I share my

knowledge with judo with you, you should share your knowledge with me.

We all want to get good results, don't we? Now work for it.You

couldn't have heard what I said. APPLAUSE

I have people watching The One Show and I know they will be calling me

tonight. Oh dear, I'm so embarrassed.

It was very well acted. My braids. Oh dear gosh. I haven't seen that

for a very long time. Can we move Part of a new project that's going

to let loads of people live and on the big screen see you and Kenneth

Branagh perform Macbeth. Tell us about this project then? Well, I do

do some judo throws on Kenneth. I am working my way up. I haven't told

him yet! Macbeth, it is part of the international Manchester

international festival and this has started since I have been away in

Los Angeles, but it is the only festival that commission new works

and that's new works in the visual arts and popular culture and in the

performing arts. So the festival itself commissioned Kennet and Rob

Ashford to come up with a new interpretation of Macbeth. And you

are playing Lady Macbeth Yes, I am. Have you seen the concept of theatre

in cinemas? You get a bigger audience and people who can't get to

Manchester get the chance to see it locally.

One of the difficulties is the location in which we are performing

the play, it is a small space for a theatre and so the number of people

that are able to see the production is limited and in fact, the

production has sold out. But so I was thrilled when I found out that

National Theatre Live were going to screen it and I have seen screenings

in Los Angeles of performances at the National Theatre and it works

really well. You almost forget that you are watching it on screen.

You have come straight from rehearsal. I have, yeah. It is going

really well actually. I am a little nervous, but I'm having such a good

time in rehearsal and everybody is great. How is Kenneth Branagh? He is

a big deal, isn't he? He is renowned for working on this type of

material. How have you found him as a director? Mm, well he is

codirecting with Rob Ashford because Ken is playing Macbeth he can't be

in both places at the same time, but he tries!

He is wonderful. I mean, he is very generous and the thing that I'm

loving is that the space is safe. One feels that one can just try

things and look a fool and everybody is there supporting you just having

a go. So I just, I think, that it will be very, very exciting. We wish

you all the best. Yes, we do. The Big Screen Live of Macbeth is on

Saturday, 20th July. 69 years ago today, thousands of

allied troops along the South Coast were waiting for the signal to begin

what became known as D-Day. Years of plans -- planning was behind it. Dan

Snow reports. The wild heathlands of hankly Common

in Surrey. Recently starred as James Bond's remote Skyfall estate. In the

dark days of 1943, Britain and the allies were looking forward to did

D-Day. Their plan to invade the beaches of Europe and free Europe

from the Nazis. And hidden in the woods was a top-secret site where

one British genius was able to test his cunning ideas to take on the

formidable German defences. Among them, Hitler's Atlantic Wall. Miles

of concrete fortifications running along the French coast and bristling

with artillery, barbed wire and millions of mines. The allies knew

from experience what damage defences -- damage to fences like these dwo

could. A raid on the occupied port ended in disast when their troops

became trapped on the beach. Over 4,000 men were wounded, captured or

killed. The allies were determined not to

make that same mistake a second time. So here in the Surrey woodland

they built this - a replica section of the Atlantic Wall to practise on.

How did they know how to build it? Because they looked at real thing

and they used information from the French resistance and sent raiding

parties across at night tomed swim ashore and come up the beach to chip

concrete off the real wall to make sure the mix of the concrete was

right. It is jaw dropping just how much

effort they went to to build this wall. Once it was finished they

spent the time working out how to smash it down and to solve that

problem they turned the imagination of a maverick, Major General.

His name was Percy Hobart, a difficult, but brilliant royal

engineer. He was renowned for his ability to think outside the box as

David explains. Percy Hobart's a fantastic character. He found his

moment in World War II. He takes normal battle tanks like this

Churchill tank and converts them by adding new weaponry. They end up

being called Hobart's Funnies. This one was called the Goat. It was

designed to be against a wall and detonated from a distance. They put

this mortar and this is one of the rounds they fired. Inside there are

28 pounds of high explosive. It will go about 100m and make one hell of a

hole in anything it is fired at. enough of these could cause a huge

hole in a wall like this one? first one didn't do it, there are 28

other rounds in there. You keep firing until you are through.

Percy's work was supposedly top secret. This local resident wrote,

our bedroom ceiling cracked in all directions during some exceptionally

noisy exercises on the Commons. What Molly couldn't eknow was her bedroom

ceiling was one small cushily at the in the build-up to the biggest land,

sector and air assault in history. On June sixth 1944, D-Day finally

arrived. After months of practise on Hankley Common, Percy's specially

adapted tanks rolled on to the French beaches. In just one day they

helped breach the mighty Atlantic wall and the allies were on their

way. In less than a year the war in Europe was over. It just goes to

show that even against an obstacle as powerful as the German war

machine, a little bit of British ingenuity goes a long way. You can

see the first episode of Dan's documentary D-Day - The Last Heroes

this Sunday evening at ten past nine. You mentioned that your mum

was part of the D-Day plans? They gave her some plans to take to

Portsmouth. She had to drive from London to Portsmouth. She was in the

female Yeomenry. As she was going south, there was a huge convoy of

American troops, also heading south. Her car got stuck with in nonstop

stream of tanks and armoured vehicles and everything. She said in

a very nonaggressive female officer kind of way, help me, help me, I

have to get to Portsmouth. And he stopped the convoy, which was a huge

thing to do, and her car got through and she got through to the

headquarters. She believes that if it had not been for her... That is a

whole new book Poverties I thought he might ring Dan right now.

programme doesn't go out until Sunday.

Sharleen, eight years on Texas have eventually brought out a new album.

It is called The Conversation. It is brilliant, but why has it taken so

long and where have you been? years ago when we did the last Texas

album it got to the point where we had sold so many records, been on so

many TVs, did so much towering. People liked us but I think it was

just a bit too much of us so we decided to take some time off.

Families and kids and that stuff. And then Ally had a brain aneurysm.

Are all the other members the same? Yep, everybody. We all see each

other all the time anyway, so for us it was, with it felt like we hadn't

stopped. We've managed to get our act together and we went back out

and did some dates. We thought, stop being so lazy, make a record.

album is called The Conversation. # Give it up

# Never gonna hold you up # You've always been afraid of love

# It is time to have a conversation. APPLAUSE

That looked like you were doing Canicross there. My dog would never

do that. I had a bit of an accident during the video. We've got the

footage. Oh! Sharleen! You are holding your head. My mouth

instantly filled with blood, so I thought I smashed my teeth. I hit my

face on the corner of the pavement. It was rather sore. Were those

extras there? No, they were members of the public, trying to pick me up

and I was screaming, don't touch me! It was pretty painful. That must

have put you out of action for three weeks? No, I got about three days.

They kept saying, take arnica. everything from behind. Like we can

do other shots, shoot you from the other side. Soup through a straw?

Yes, it was pretty sore when I was running. I had a really bad headache

for a week. Did your partner look after you? No, he's typical, he's

Welsh isn't he. Sharleen!I walked in and he took one look at me and

said, what happened to you? No, he was like, that looks pretty bad.

ehe cook for you, because he is a celeb at the chef. I couldn't move

my mouth. I just wanted to lie down. Was your dad there? He always used

to come with you? My dad goes on tour with us. He will kill me. Look

at his AC/DC T-shirt. He was in the merchant Navy all our lives and he

drove my mum insane when he retired, so we had to take him on tour.

People can come and seep you at Hyde Park? We are doing Hyde Park,

Carfest. Is it north or south Carfest? Both. And we do the Texas

tour in October. October and November we are out on a big Texas

tour, which we haven't done in a long time. We are glad to have you

back. It is about time. The Conversation is out right now.

Now, the earlier on we saw Dr Mark Porter meet Private Nick Franklin as

he prepared for ground-breaking surgery on his shattered knee.

Here's what happened just seven weeks ago. 18 months ago Private

Nick Franklin's legs took the full force of a booby trap bomb when he

was serving in Afghanistan. Obviously I lost my left leg below

the knee and I sustained a large amount of damage to the right leg.

The bone is missing around this area here. Is it painful?Very painful.

What does it stop you doing? A lot of things. I can't really pick up my

little boy, because it puts too much pressure on my knee. And my wife is

having to be a career for the little ones and for me. There was a few

times when he said, I wish they had just took the leg off, because he

was in so much pain. Getting this operation is going to make such a

difference. The complex bomb damage to Nick's right leg mean there is

little chance of his ever getting back to an active life. So

specialists here at the King Edward VII Hospital in London are going to

try to repair Nick's shattered knee with implants put in by a robot.

Welcome to extreme orthopaedics. can see from the back of the knee

the shrapnel blew away the weight-bearing part of his knee.

is what you are going to do today different from a standard knee

replacement? Most people fit high street store clothes and their knees

fit department store knees, but each person is blown up did is blown up

in a rather different way. So for these young men we make things

specially for them. Nick's tailor-made implants will be

positioned by the help of this robot fed with the exact geometry of his

damaged knee and the plans for fixing it. We are about ten minutes

into the operation and it is time to bring the robot in. It is very

important it is done with pin-point accuracy or Nick can end up with a

knee which is worse. There is no room for error. First Professor Cobb

must lock the robot on to Nick's knee. With a normal operation I look

and decide it is about here. What we are going to do now is find a lot of

points. This is the crucial point of which any precise operation. Using

an interactive touchscreen he matches up a series of reference

points inside the joint with the robot's 3D images of it. Let's go.

The robot is ready to begin its work, sculpting Nick's damaged tibia

and femur with a high -speed cutting burr. This is the bit I'm stressing

about, or one of the bits, because I'm close to the back of the joint.

And you can see it is a bit like a Space Invaders game, clearing the

bone. Professor Cobb is guiding the burr but the robot is keeping a

close eye on his progress. As you get towards the boundary, the robot

starts to resist, saying I don't want to be here. You don't want to

be here either. If you know what's good for you, stop now. Would you be

able to hand over completely to the robot? No. If you hand over

completely it stops. It would never be possible to achieve this degree

of accuraciy by human eye or hand alone. We are 45 minutes into the

operation. It has all gone very well. The robot has cut the slots

into the bone to accept the metal surfaces of the joint. So far, so

good. I've prepared these shape shapes. These are coated in the same

chemical as bone. Bone is going to grow straight on to these. Can you

see this sort of technology becoming routine? If I have a knee

replacement in 20 years' time might I be using this sort of thing?

think what you will expect is to have plans made like this, because

that doesn't cost very much and you will expect some sort of

technological assistance. Are you happy? Very happy. I'm delighted

actually. For an hour and 15 and the professor's put Nick's new knee in.

Is technology is amazing. Let's hope it gives Nick the life he's hoping

for. We can find out because Nick, Shareen and Professor Justin Cobb

are here. Nick, seven weeks ago, how are you feeling now? A lot better.

It is seven weeks, a long time ago, but yeah, the operation went really

well and... What are you noticing? Are you noticing that it feels

stronger? A lot stronger. It is a lot more secure an it was before.

Obviously when I was walking, sometimes bone would lock and it

would give in, so I would have to stop. And I would have to lean on my

wife to get to get my leg back into its normal state. But since I've had

the op done it is a massive improvement. I don't have to take so

many pain killers any more. You said you wanteded to be able to interact

more with your children. Is it making a big difference Shareen at

home? Definitely. It has made such a huge difference. He doesn't have to

lean on me any more. He is walking a lot better. He's off the pain

killers can. It has improved his temperament as well. He used to get

grumpy when he was in pain. what's incredible is the timing of

the operation. It was vital in your lives. Tell us why? I had to get

induced, because our bany Page was due on 11th April. His operation was

on 18th. If I went over, he wouldn't be there for the birth. Wow!So it

was like, get her out quick. Professor Cobb it is remarkable to

see that. Nick was interested to have that as a log to look back at.

But pioneering technology helps the accuracy. What else could this be

used for? The suite of technologies allows us to almost do anything now

in terms of reconstructing the skeleton but for ordinary people

wearing out it has allowed us to do things much more accurately and

taking away less person. The wonderful thing about Nick is he is

walking abusefully so soon. -- walking beautifully so soon.

must be absolutely delighted Nick. I guess you can't really put into it

words. What you've been through is incredibly traumatic in itself.

is traumatic and it is hard for a lot of blokes who go through what

I've been through. But obviously with the support of my wife and my

family I've managed to push through a hell of a lot of it. I should have

been on crutches for an extra two months. And it is determination. A

massive improvement. I want to push on and get on with the rest of my

life. We wish all the best to you and to your family and to Professor

Cobb. Now, I'm guessing you ladies have flown quite a lot. But look at

this picture. That wasn't down to unruly passengers. It was extreme

turbulence. Kochee on the ceiling, the lot. Marty Jopson Plett the man

charged with making sure that modern aircraft are safe from lightning

strikes. In the average year around 300,000

lightening bolts hit Britain. 45 people are struck by lightening and

in the air over 20,000 aircraft are hit. How does it happen?

It is all to do with what is making my hair stand on end. Electrical

charge in atoms. Inside clouds, water and ice are constantly moving

around. Scientists aren't sure how, but this causes some ice to become

electricically charged. The positively charged ice accumulates

at the top of the cloud. The negatively charged ice builds up at

the bottom. And because opposite charges attract, this build-up of

negative charge pulls positive charge to the surfaces of the earth.

And there is enough charge here that it flashes over and that's how you

get a lightening strike. Lightening is dangerous enough on the ground.

But what happens when you are at 35,000 feet in a metal tube? This is

what happens. 100 million volts passes through the plane. Cardiff

University have set-up a lightening laboratory to allow engineers like

Chris Stone to understand the effects and come up with solutions.

Chris, how often do planes get struck then? On average each

commercial aircraft is struck once a year.

That's a lot. It is quite a lot. So they survive it. What are they

made of? They are made out of aluminium which is a good conductor

of electricity. Chris has simulated what happens

when lightening hits the aluminium planes. In fact, it the charge

passes along the exterior and out the other end causing almost no

damage. But these days, planes are increasingly being made out of more

energy efficient materials. Modern aircraft are being built out of

carbon-fibre to reduce weight, to save energy, to make the aeroplanes

more green. The trouble is carbon-fibre isn't as

conductive so the lightening causes more damage. We can simulate that

here. We bring the lightening in through the cables. Pass it between

these two points here and it strikes the panel.

So how much current is you got then? It is three times the average

lightening strike. Let's do it. Come on!

Each lightening strike Chris makes contains the same energy as a

nuclear power station produces in a day. So it is best not to be in the

That was it? That's amazing. That's a hell of a

bang. A he hell of a bang. In slow motion, we can see frame by

frame what happens as the strike hits. It only lasts 32 million thsz

of a second. But the damage is clear to see.

Look at that. So if this was the outside of an aeroplane, that would

be bad news? You wouldn't like that to happen. To ensure it doesn't,

Chris tests carbon-fibre panels covered with different coatings to

see which coats with -- copes with lightening best. Firing.The tests

revealed the answer. A cooper weave just 600ths of' millimetre thick.

This is a cooper foil. So this is the same carbon-fibre

with chicken wire over the top. Yes. You can see the damage there

is. This gives you the best of both worlds? Yes, the lightness of the

panel and the conductivity of the metallic foil.

Chris' work means when our fuel efficient planes of the future are

struck by lightening, we will still be as safe inside as we are now.

Well, thanks, Martin, but what is it like to be struck by lightening?

Well, we know someone who can tell us, Barry Stanley. No you welcome

Barry. It is nice to have you with us. What can you remember about the

experience you had? It is extremely painful. Nine years down the line I

still feel the pain every step I a take, it feels like walking on

broken glass, broken raiser blades. It was on your birthday. Set the

scene for us. You were out for a walk? I was visiting my mum in the

Lake District. We were having a look and it came over dark and it started

belting it down with the rain. I suggested we should head back to the

car. We started walking back towards the car and 30 foot from the car, a

bolt of lightening came down and I was underneath it. And what happened

next then? Well, the lightening through me about six foot up in the

air. I hit the deck and when I was lying on the ground, apparently

there was just smoke coming off me. Me mum and brother were sitting up

shaking my head, are you all right? There was me face first in the mud.

Rolled me over. No pulse. They started mouth to mouth and chest

compressions and got me breathing. So when did you come around then?

briefly regained consciousness in the air ambulance. I looked to my

left and opened my eyes and all I could see was clouds. I didn't know

what was going on, where I was. idea how you managed to survive

that? What have they said to you about it? More chance of you winning

the Lottery than being struck by lightening, but the only thing I can

put it down to is the love and support from my family and the fact

I was physically strong and fit and healthy at the time.

Well, you have an incredible outlook on life. You really do. And you

won't let anything beat you. Thank you for coming in. Yes, thanks,

Barry. Philippa. There is a lot of

excitement surrounding the new television series. A ten parter on

the BBC called The White Queen. Let's have a look at what we can

expect. I cannot be your mistress. I may die

in battle, but this could be my last request. You could deny your king

that? You will not die. You are quick and brave and lucky. Then I

must go and this will be the end of it. Tomorrow. Sunset. Meet me by the

big oak tree even if only to say goodbye.

We are all gripped. I can't wait. It is based on your series of books,

the Cousins War. What was the White Queen? She is the wife of Edward the

fourth and one of the stories in history we do know they are married

for love. They married in secret and actually her arrival in court as the

Queen is one of the things that prolongs the wars because Edward's

chief adviser and mentor takes a dislike to her and that means there

is another series of wars after the ones that Edward just goes off and

wins. It has everything, love, lust and war. What role did you play then

as well as writing the books? Bringing the story to life for the

screen? Well, I was executive producer on the project. So I was

involved in casting and all of those decisions, but the main thing

because I'm a writer by trade, of course, the main thing I was really

interested with the sciment so I worked closely with the script

writer, Emma Frost and the team of script writers.

And where there big arguments about the scenes you had to get off and

you wanted to keep in? There are always creative differences and this

was one of the happiest projects I worked on. It was extraordinary

because we set off with a determination as staying as closely

to the novels novels as possible. You lose, you are out of time, you

know, although it is ten hours, it is based on three big novels and

those focussed on three complex women characters. Of course, you

have problems of how much you are going to be able to put in.

A real luxury to have for you. When you see something on a big screen,

you go, " It is not like that at all. They look different." It must

be lovely to have that It is a lucks lucksee -- it is a luxury, you are

right. Is What do you like about Philippa's

work? You just get lost within the story and it is fantastic to be

reading something that's historically accurate. So you feel

like you are educating yourself at the same time. You can relate to

pieces of it within your own life which is amazing.

How much can you flesh out? From an enteartainment how much do you feel

like that you want to elaborate? Nobody keeps any diary of what is

use to us. Of course, they go behind a closed door. All the material has

to be fiction. So it is almost like a reconstruction sometimes. You know

that someone is there. You know why they are dl because you can see what

they do when they are there and then you write the scene where they make

up their mind to go and when they go through the emotion. It is emotions

and feelings are always going to be fiction, but that is also true for

people who are writing straight history. They too only have a small

amount of factual material to go on. So you often find historians say, "

We know that Elizabeth fillet such and such." -- felt such and such."

don't know if you agree, one of the lovely things you write your novels

from a female prospective. Most historians tell it from a male

prospective. Do you find that? what I really enjoyed about the

whole of the series of books so far is I was struck by how young the

chief protagonists are. They were really very, very young and yet were

put in these positions of extraordinary power and inside an

awful sort of way. -- and in an awful sort of way. What they had to

endure as young girls in terms of having to bed men, whatever, who

were much older than them. I mean and in light of what we are dealing

with today in the news and everything, I just feel like gosh,

it has not really changed all that much or is it something that is

actually just part of, it is an awful thing to say, nature and

society, but it has been going on for a very, very long time.

Well, we can indulge in pill ip pa's work -- Philippa's work.

There is White Queen breaking news. Yes, the big news is that male cast

members were banned from wearing tights during film of it The White

Queen. On The One Show we can't get enough of men in tights.

So we are going to celebrate them in a game we are calling Celebrity

Tight Spots. Are you up for this? You have to try

and spot the celebrity from their legs. Dave is modelling the trophy.

No padded trousers on him. You see, I like those tights. Come in.Just

put the trophy down, but be careful with where you bend! They are a

horrible shade, aren't they? Mushroom. Let's have a look...There

is not much room in them tights. Sorry. Let's look at the first set

of pins. Alex this one is for you. Now, here are your clues. This actor

and presenter put an adder, so ary a ladder in many pairs of tights

playing comedy versions of King Charles I and the Duke of Wellington

It is not Hugh Laurie. Not quite. A friend of his. You could say he

is... Not Stephen Fry.Yes. Let's have a look. It is Stephen

Fry. APPLAUSE

Did you spot them earlier. Did you get that right? I knew that was

Stephen Fry. Do you recognise these knobbly

knees? This image is from a die hard actor's first TV Novembery in 1978.

-- TV movie in 1978. It is Bruce Willis.

It is not. He was clean shaven in Love Actually and Harry Potter. Who

do you think it is? Oh Potter. AlanRicman.

-- Alan Rickman. We have two pairs of legs for you,

Philippa. Your clues are. These comedy brothers probably flogged a

few pair of tights. They often found themselves in a tight spot and they

drank in the Nag's Head. He David sayson and the other one is

the other one! APPLAUSE

Have weigh got time for is a decider? -- have we got time for is

a decider? Thank you. The Conversation is out now. What a

wonderful conversation we had. You can see Macbeth in Manchester