06/01/2017 The One Show


06/01/2017

Presented by Alex Jones and Patrick Kielty. Gary Barlow and Mel Giedroyc talk about Let it Shine, and we remember David Bowie ahead of the first anniversary of his death.


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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Patrick Kielty.

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And for the final time before her big arrival, it's Alex Jones! Thank

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you. How are you feeling? Very excited, a bit anxious and I'll miss

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everybody. We're going to make it through the next half an hour. I

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can't promise that. Hot water and towels! We have a lovely show as we

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are joined by two stars from the new BBC talent show, Let It Shine,

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but... Ooh! And the audience from The Price Is Right! Do they have

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what it takes to get on our sofa? First is a teenager called Gary,

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playing in front of one of the biggest and most enthusiastic

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audiences of his career. The # The power of love

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# The power of love that woman was definitely more into

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her gin and tonic. That was Gary Barlow on Phoenix Nights. Next,

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young lady called Mel, taking karaoke to a whole new audience,

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whether they want it or not. # Ooh nobody knows it

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# I gave you my heart # Gave you my heart! With a love of

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power ballads like that, they definitely deserve to take their

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seats. It is Gary Barlow and Mel Giedroyc. Hello, love!

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Jonesy! Nice to have you here. Last show, I couldn't have wished for

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better guests. Do we need hot towels? Just in case. Very exciting,

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the new show is exciting. Gary, I know your career has been building

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to this moment, working with Mel. Absolutely, she is great fun.

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Through gritted teeth! It is an audition show and you are no

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strangers to auditions. Mel, tell us about Mamma Mia. I

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tried out for Mamma Mia, for one of the comedy lady parts, the ladies

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with the hairbrushes. Anyway, I'd never been to an audition before,

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especially musical theatre. I brought a boom box with a Marc

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Bolland CD. Not sheet music? Mistake number one! Basically I'd put the CD

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on and I sang along with Marc Bolland. Very badly. And I was shown

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the door. Was it brutal? It was a bit. I had a little cry. Are they a

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bit hostile? They were all smiles, they killed with kindness, which is

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worse. Worse, yeah. We will be talking about Let It Shine later and

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we have an David Bowie exclusive. As we approach what would have been his

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70th birthday this weekend. It is absolutely amazing, on BBC Two this

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weekend. When you complain to a company, you go straight to the top,

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if you are as important as these two but what if the person in charge is

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so hands-off that they don't know the name of their company? That

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makes things tricky, Joe has met a boss who doesn't trouble himself

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with such details. Perched beside the Pennines on the banks of the

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River Derwent, Consett has a proud history as a steel-making town. Like

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many industrial towns, when the steelworks shot in the 80s, people

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had to adjust to the loss of their main employer. These days, the area

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boasts a surprisingly high number of company directors because the small

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town of Consett has become home to over 1000 online businesses. Many of

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them are links to gambling and adult websites. On paper, at least, those

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businesses are run by about 400 people in Consett, many with little

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or no business experience. Hello, John? Like former steelworker, John

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Mawson. At one point he was the director of eight companies. How

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come? We were approached by somebody from where we used to live and they

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asked if we wanted to have some free money, all we had to do was fine. We

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got 50 quid. All we were told is that we would get letters and all we

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had to do was post them back and that's all we've ever had to do. So

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you're 50 quid was for signing and forwarding some post? Yes. There

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were about 1200 firms, all of them the brainchild of one enterprising

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local, Simon Dowson, who set up a company who sets up companies, Shell

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companies to be precise. Why shell companies? To operate here legally,

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overseas firms must have UK-based firms and directors. Simon Dowson's

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business provided that, turning over millions of pounds every year. Many

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of his recruits like John said they had no idea what the businesses they

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were involved with actually did. Can you remember the names of the

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companies you were the director of? The only one I can remember, Thunder

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Flash. That was responsible for title websites? -- for adult

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websites? Yes. The boost of businesses caught the eye of the

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insolvency service who found that no laws had been broken although many

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of the businesses had been closed on its advice. The MPMP once rules

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around shell companies to be tightened so that consumers know who

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is really in charge. We must go through all kinds of hoops for all

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sorts of reasons to do with tax evasion but you can be a director

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without any of those kinds of requirements. Regulations are in

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place but no one is monitoring to make sure we know who is running

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companies. All companies in the UK with companies house. They told us

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that all newly appointed company directors are warned of their

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responsibilities like filing accounts and they face persecution

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if these aren't met. And as for Simon Dowson, the man behind this,

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he has agreed to give me an interview. At the time of starting

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the business I had nothing. I was unable to pay my mortgage, my

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council tax and this opportunity came along and we took it. We

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diversify away from the norm and we have brought an alternative to the

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area. How much of the money you bring in from overseas goes into the

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local community? It's important to say that it is not just the fees

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paid to individuals that go to the locality, every fee that we have

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generated have gone to the locality, a very high percentage because we've

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always had local staff and offices. Do people always know what they are

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becoming the director of? Not out of hand, people were not unaware but

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they like the opportunity of additional revenue and they

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overlooked what it was for but at no time was anybody ever not advised

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clearly what they were doing. I heard the suggestion that you may

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think of yourself as a Robin Hood, taking the online money and bringing

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it here? I don't think I am Robin Hood but I also don't think I am

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Dick Turpin either. Simon is no longer in the Shell company business

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so it seems that Consett's time as the boom town for company directors

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is now over. Now we must talk about the brand-new show on BBC One

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tomorrow night. He's looking excited. I am excited. It all

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started, I've been trying to make a musical with all of the music from

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Take That for two years and I need a band, a five piece boy band for the

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musical. I sat down with the BBC and we were talking about shows and new

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opportunities and ideas and I thought, you know what, I'd like to

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cast on TV a boy band for the show soap we started working on it. We

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have some fine judges and hosts and we also have, I can tell you, some

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really great talent, some as young as 16. Amazing, young, fearless,

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great talent. We have seen some footage and it is the creme de la

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creme, to be fair. You are not looking for mini-mes, are you, they

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don't have to be lookalikes? It is a boy band with a new story, we don't

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need lookalikes, what I'm looking for in the show is the energy of

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Take That in 1992. Pray! Ambitious, fierce. The dance routine, sweaty

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armpits? Oh, yeah! Those dressed shirts that went down a little bit

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too far. LAUGHTER Very nice! And you are presenting,

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Mel, with Graham. Yes. How do the audition stages work? We have

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recorded already five audition shows. I can sense the excitement

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building! Basically they're on their own for those auditions, they aren't

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in any kind of group formation yet. So they have to go out in front of

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500 people in a live studio scenario. The amazing judges

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including Martin Kemp, Kempo! That's a bit familiar! And Dannii Minogue,

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the wonderful Dannii Minogue. And of course the chief judge here, and

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Amber Riley is here with us. From Glee. She's amazing. Off the scale.

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No pressure, they have to get out and perform. What a line-up. You

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know, it's interesting because obviously we've been working on the

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show for over a year, trying to think of how we're going to school

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and the mechanics but what you can't quantify is the talent, and they are

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the heart of the show -- of how we are going to score. It was a relief

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that they came on and blew the audience away. I don't know how you

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chose them, the standard is so good. We don't want to give anything away

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but we are going to show a small clip of one of the hopefuls.

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My name is Nikki, I'm 17 years old and I'm from South Wales.

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# Anywhere, I would have followed you

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# Ooh! # Is not giving up on you!

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Nicky! Don't leave it there! What happened? That's cruel. I'm terrible

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at keeping secrets. That's all we are allowed to have. He was great.

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So if they make it to the end? They are standing on the 15th star and

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age judge has a maximum of five stars, so if all judges give

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maximum, you get 20 but you just need number 15 to light up to get to

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the next round. Some of them go beyond 15. Some go less than 15. You

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are a teaser! There's a big musical number at the start? Even start us.

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We were surprised to hear that you are part of this! Although you have

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a number one single? Thank you very much, that's true. Did you know

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that, Gary? Really? With Gareth Malone. I can't the name. --

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remember the name. It was for Children in Need. Wake Me Up. Not

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that one! Are you singing and dancing? Well, there may be some

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impromptu dancing. Graham's quite good at dancing. Very good. We were

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trying to work out how we start the series and for me, the best way to

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Kameni Kate is through song, so I decided to write a song but then I

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had the job to go to the racing them and ask them about how they felt

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about doing a rap. So they are rapping, brilliantly. You can see

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the full opening number. It is very strong. It is on the iPlayer, after

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this show. Let It Shine starts tomorrow on BBC One at 7pm. One

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piece of advice that Gary will give to the winner is never to forget

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where you're coming from. Ooh! Midge Ure is all too aware of this.

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Here he is, taking us back to the streets where his dreams began.

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Vienna, my name will always be tied to that city. But my well name was

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tied to somewhere else - Glasgow. Right on this spot is where my flat

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would have been. If you just look over here, these red stone

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buildings, that is a posh person of the place where I was born. I shared

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the bedroom with my brother and sister, whilst our parents slept in

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the sitting room. My dad was a van driver. Mum kept us on our toes. The

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tenements may have looked grim, but we were a community. I lived around

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the corn frer my gran and two aunts. As you were out playing she would

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hang out the window, on the top floor of this block and she would

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make you up a jam sandwich, stick it inside a paper bag, wrap it up and

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throw it out the window. And I've still got the knack! I was

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growing up at a time when the old Glasgow was being replaced by a new,

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modern version. My family were caught up in that change, when we

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were moved to here, Bucking ham Drive. To us, it was a palace. Not

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only did we have our own rooms. I shared a room with my brother, but

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my sister had her own room. It was amazing. If you walked past you

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would have undoubtedly heard music coming from the bedroom. My brother

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and I pumping out heavy rock. Music was big, big, big news here. Making

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a living from music, my parents didn't see that one coming. It was

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important to them that we moved up a rung of the ladder. But I dreamed of

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doing exactly what I do. When I come back here, I'll come around here to

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remind me of what I was wishing for in this very spot.

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This school is where I first became a musician. Back then it was called

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Rutherford Academy. I never felt comfortable in places like this, in

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halls like this. I didn't quite. About deep ya had no interest to me

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whatsoever. I immersed myself in music, learning the guitar in the

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school club. So, this is the very guitar that I got when I was 10

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years old. It cost my parents half my dad's wages, which was ?3.

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# It takes a rude man to sing a rude song

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# I'm worried now # But I won't be worried long.

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I had no worries. I was soon playing in local groups, earning a few quid.

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At 18, I was in my first proper band. This place here was the

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Electric Garden. I played here with Salvation. And this is Billy, the

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key booshd player. This is the first time we have met in a long time.

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These are the hair styles. Notice the hair! Notice the players! My

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Spanish hat. Many, many dodgy outfits. It was quite a scary thing

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performing in those days. The girls would stand at the front of the

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stage here and look at you adoringly. The boy friends stood

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behind them going... We had the look, we had the songs,

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but there was one problem. Jim said, you are Jim Ure. She said, I am Jim

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McGinly. We cannot have two Jims. As it is my band and I am older, you

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are now Midge. Salvation became one of the biggest gigging bands in

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Scotland at the time. I remember travelling back from Inverness. Get

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back at 5-6am in the morning. Did that for three or four years. All of

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a sudden, bang, bang, bang, bang, things took off. Four years later,

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Salvation changed their name to Slick. We were at number one with

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Forever and Ever. I became lead singer with ultra vox, who would

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take me to many places, including Vienna, but I would be nothing

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without Glasgow. There he is. Come on Glasgow. They

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are always nice films. Thank you. Next week is a year since we lost

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one of our greatest ever musicians, to commemorate what would have been

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David Bowie's 70th birthday, BBC Two will look at his last years, his

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last album and in this clip, his last tour.

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It is the happenest I have seen that man in 42 years, it was that tour.

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I have never seen him like that before.

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# Rebel, rebel # You've torn your dress

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# Rebel, rebel # Face is a mess

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# How could they know # Hot tramp, I love you so...

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You bet! It is so, so good.

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Any Bowie fans, you have to check this out. We are joined by Francis

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Whately and David's friend and frequent collaborator, guitarist

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Earl Slick. You made an amazing documentary about David Bowie during

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the five years where he changed music. What was so special about the

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final years and the work he did in them? We said look at David, he

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changes all the time. Isn't that amazing. In this one, we say, isn't

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it amazing, but what he's talking about remains entirely consistent.

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So, the themes he's talking about in the '60s, he's talking about on

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these two albums, too. So the themes of alienation, mortality, fame, they

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are his big things. He was changing all the time. Master of disguise

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really. He said I am not a cam mealion. He said the whole job of

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one is to fit into your environment. He said, I don't think I do that. If

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I do, I am doing something wrong. I get it. He seemed to be a lot more

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of himself in the last few years. Would you agree with that. Earl is

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the one to ask. You have worked with him throughout, since 1974, haven't

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you? He let himself change. Most people

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don't. Most people get stuck where they are. Here I am, I am

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comfortable. I will stay here forever. I will furnish it. It was

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not David. Whatever he felt, he did. That is where that cameleon thing

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is. In one of the brilliant things about

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the documentary is when you look at today's media, everybody puts

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everything out there, yet he managed to bring out the second last album

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and nobody knew. How difficult was it? You had to sign a

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non-disclosure. I signed it. I didn't have to sign it. I signed it

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because I was asked to. All anybody had to do was ask to be quiet. Out

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of respect, we would have been. It is funny doing interviews during

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that time for other things and you know, so... You know. And then I had

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done, a guitar player magazine. You get it here. It is American. It is

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kind of like, when it comes to guitar magazines, it is like the Big

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Daddy. And the Editor in Chief has been a friend of mine for years. And

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I got the front cover and we did the interview and the whole thing before

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I could say anything. I remember after the news that the

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record was released. He called me and he was like, not happy with me.

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I said, hey, my word's the word. That was it, man, and I had to stick

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with it. He understood it, but you know. I said, sorry. There was no

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skop to get. Mel is a huge Bowie fan. This is a

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dream for you to be on the show talking about this. Years and years

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ago, you got very close to him. Albeit that you didn't know. I was a

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wait re... This sounds creepy. I was a waitress in 1997, in a pretentious

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place in the middle of London, where a lot of the pop stars of the time

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used to come and get their coffee. 87, Bowie comes in with his

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entourage. I was very young. I was not allowed to serve him. I was too

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junior, but I saw his food being prepared... Was there much? What did

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you do? I licked his cake! No, guys, not a big horrid, it was

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like a little cat. It was a tiny little... And on that bombshell

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David Bowie: The Last Five Years is on tomorrow, BBC Two. 9pm. From

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Monet's Poplars to van Gogh's Mulberry Bush, trees have been a

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work of art. Nobody cares about the leaves tonight because it is the

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last show before you head off to have your little baby.

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Everybody on this show today, we had a little cake. Everyone was sending

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you loads of love and loads of best wishes, but we have here a message

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from two very special one show viewers, just for you. Look at this.

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When Matthew was first born, a lot of people say their babies are

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absolutely beautiful, I didn't get that impression when Matthew was

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born. He was the chubbiest baby around and the midwife she had never

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known a breast fed baby get so big so quickly. That is the way he was.

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He didn't have any wrists, any ankles. He didn't have any neck. He

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was just a little chubby baby. Don't worry. Go with your instincts.

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You will be fine. It is the wonderful time. It is the best

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chapter of your whole life. Our initial memory of Alex, when we

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saw her first, was her mass of very dark hair, which stood up on end.

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And for the first few months of her life she was known as the last of

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the mo hee Kens. We refer to it today when her hair is sticking up

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at a funny angle. We went to a zoo when she was five months and the

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monkeys just congregated around the pram looking at her. They couldn't

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believe there was a baby there that looked exactly like them.

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Children bring a lot of trouble, but they bring mostly joy. You will be a

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great mum, Alex and I cannot wait to see my new grandchild.

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Don't do it! I promised myself I wouldn't. I saw that in rehearsals

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and I almost went myself. It is such a special time. What advice do you

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have? She is your playlist, care -- get your playlist for your birth.

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None of these phones. A good camera. Got a little present.

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Thanks, Gary. Oh, look! And this as well.

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You might need more than one! Look!

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For the new arrival. I have got a little gift as well. You know I

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talked quite a lot about this - I have brought out my own range.

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That was meant to look cute. I had no idea how it was to look, it looks

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like you are breast-feeding a Bond villain! I am so sorry about that T

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from everybody, we wish you all the best. It is the best team ever here.

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I will miss everybody very much. See you very, very soon.

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We are back on Monday. Body of a young woman's

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just been found,

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Presented by Alex Jones and Patrick Kielty.

Gary Barlow and Mel Giedroyc are on the sofa to talk about Let it Shine, and we remember David Bowie ahead of the first anniversary of his death with his friend and guitarist Earl Slick, and documentary maker Francis Whately.