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Hello and welcome to the One Show, Hello and welcome to the One Show,

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Hello and welcome to the One Show, with Alex Jones... And Matt Baker.

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with Alex Jones... And Matt Baker. with Alex Jones... And Matt Baker.

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Tonight's guest is about to take Tonight's guest is about to take

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Tonight's guest is about to take part in possibly the biggest

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part in possibly the biggest part in possibly the biggest

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chatshow in the world for Comic chatshow in the world for Comic

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chatshow in the world for Comic Relief. Chances are, we will not

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Relief. Chances are, we will not Relief. Chances are, we will not

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Relief. Chances are, we will not get a word in. What have you been

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get a word in. What have you been get a word in. What have you been

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get a word in. What have you been doing today? Actually, I had a tap

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doing today? Actually, I had a tap doing today? Actually, I had a tap

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dancing lesson today. I just dancing lesson today. I just

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dancing lesson today. I just dancing lesson today. I just

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realised why it you had a tap realised why it you had a tap

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realised why it you had a tap dancing lesson. We will save that,

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dancing lesson. We will save that, dancing lesson. We will save that,

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dancing lesson. We will save that, because that is a surprise. He has

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because that is a surprise. He has because that is a surprise. He has

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because that is a surprise. He has been a chat show host for more than

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been a chat show host for more than been a chat show host for more than

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been a chat show host for more than 20 years, and it is, of course,

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20 years, and it is, of course, 20 years, and it is, of course,

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20 years, and it is, of course, Richard Madeley. We are going to be

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Richard Madeley. We are going to be Richard Madeley. We are going to be

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talking about this brilliant show talking about this brilliant show

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talking about this brilliant show that you're doing with Graham

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that you're doing with Graham that you're doing with Graham

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that you're doing with Graham Norton. It is going to be great.

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Norton. It is going to be great. Norton. It is going to be great.

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Norton. It is going to be great. Yes. But we have got a confession,

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Yes. But we have got a confession, Yes. But we have got a confession,

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Yes. But we have got a confession, the last time you came on, you

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the last time you came on, you the last time you came on, you

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the last time you came on, you enjoyed a few glasses of wine, with

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enjoyed a few glasses of wine, with enjoyed a few glasses of wine, with

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enjoyed a few glasses of wine, with Judy, so we decided to do a little

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Judy, so we decided to do a little Judy, so we decided to do a little

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Judy, so we decided to do a little bit of an experiment, and we took a

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bit of an experiment, and we took a bit of an experiment, and we took a

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swab from your wine glass and swab from your wine glass and

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swab from your wine glass and swab from your wine glass and

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centre to way to do a DNA test. centre to way to do a DNA test.

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centre to way to do a DNA test. Totally illegal! The results were

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Totally illegal! The results were Totally illegal! The results were

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pretty surprising. They reveal that pretty surprising. They reveal that

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pretty surprising. They reveal that you are in fact 35% ancient

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you are in fact 35% ancient you are in fact 35% ancient

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Egyptian royalty. Here's the proof. Egyptian royalty. Here's the proof.

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Egyptian royalty. Here's the proof. 46% Moroccan carpet seller. That's

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46% Moroccan carpet seller. That's 46% Moroccan carpet seller. That's

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46% Moroccan carpet seller. That's where the gift of the gab comes

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where the gift of the gab comes where the gift of the gab comes

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where the gift of the gab comes from. And the rest is just Ali G.

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from. And the rest is just Ali G. from. And the rest is just Ali G.

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But was voted the worst television But was voted the worst television

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But was voted the worst television moment in British history. We are

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moment in British history. We are moment in British history. We are

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moment in British history. We are joking, of course, we did not send

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joking, of course, we did not send joking, of course, we did not send

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anything away for testing, but have anything away for testing, but have

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anything away for testing, but have you thought about having it done?

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you thought about having it done? you thought about having it done?

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you thought about having it done? We both had it done for our channel

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We both had it done for our channel We both had it done for our channel

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for show, and mine came back for show, and mine came back

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inconclusive, whatever that means, inconclusive, whatever that means,

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inconclusive, whatever that means, inconclusive, whatever that means,

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but Judy turned out to be a but Judy turned out to be a

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but Judy turned out to be a relative of the Romanovs, the

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relative of the Romanovs, the relative of the Romanovs, the

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Russian Royal Family, they paddled Russian Royal Family, they paddled

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Russian Royal Family, they paddled Russian Royal Family, they paddled

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in the same gene pool about half-a- in the same gene pool about half-a-

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in the same gene pool about half-a- million years ago! She was quite

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million years ago! She was quite million years ago! She was quite

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chuffed about it, actually, we chuffed about it, actually, we

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chuffed about it, actually, we chuffed about it, actually, we

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never hear the last about it. never hear the last about it.

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never hear the last about it. never hear the last about it.

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testing has been in the news today, testing has been in the news today,

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testing has been in the news today, with a group of scientists

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with a group of scientists criticising companies which claimed

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criticising companies which claimed criticising companies which claimed

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criticising companies which claimed to be able to trace people's and

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to be able to trace people's and to be able to trace people's and

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Shastri through DNA, linking them Shastri through DNA, linking them

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Shastri through DNA, linking them Shastri through DNA, linking them

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to famous figures from the past. -- to famous figures from the past. --

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peoples ancestry. Michael Mosley peoples ancestry. Michael Mosley

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investigates. If you were investigates. If you were

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investigates. If you were researching your family tree, you

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researching your family tree, you researching your family tree, you

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would probably start in a library would probably start in a library

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would probably start in a library or Online, but there are also

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or Online, but there are also or Online, but there are also

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family records hidden inside us. To family records hidden inside us. To

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family records hidden inside us. To family records hidden inside us. To

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find them, I need salt water to find them, I need salt water to

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find them, I need salt water to release some of my sails, washing

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release some of my sails, washing release some of my sails, washing

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up liquid and ice-cold alcohol. How up liquid and ice-cold alcohol. How

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up liquid and ice-cold alcohol. How up liquid and ice-cold alcohol. How

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can see a tiny little strand. That can see a tiny little strand. That

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can see a tiny little strand. That can see a tiny little strand. That

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is Miley DNA. My DNA is unique to is Miley DNA. My DNA is unique to

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is Miley DNA. My DNA is unique to is Miley DNA. My DNA is unique to

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me, but I have inherited parts of me, but I have inherited parts of

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me, but I have inherited parts of me, but I have inherited parts of

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it from a free generation of my it from a free generation of my

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it from a free generation of my family line. Scientists are using

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family line. Scientists are using family line. Scientists are using

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DNA to discover more about the DNA to discover more about the

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DNA to discover more about the origins of modern Britons. So, what

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origins of modern Britons. So, what origins of modern Britons. So, what

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origins of modern Britons. So, what is it in our DNA which leads the

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is it in our DNA which leads the is it in our DNA which leads the

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trail to our ancient ancestors? DNA trail to our ancient ancestors? DNA

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trail to our ancient ancestors? DNA trail to our ancient ancestors? DNA

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is a code written in four letters. is a code written in four letters.

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These represent four different These represent four different

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These represent four different chemicals. A sequence of around 6

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chemicals. A sequence of around 6 chemicals. A sequence of around 6

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billion letters is inherited from billion letters is inherited from

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billion letters is inherited from our parents. But occasionally, the

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our parents. But occasionally, the our parents. But occasionally, the

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sequence is copied wrongly. If I sequence is copied wrongly. If I

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sequence is copied wrongly. If I sequence is copied wrongly. If I

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had to repeat the same letters over had to repeat the same letters over

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had to repeat the same letters over had to repeat the same letters over

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and over again, then I would pretty and over again, then I would pretty

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and over again, then I would pretty soon make a mistake, perhaps

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soon make a mistake, perhaps soon make a mistake, perhaps

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putting down the wrong letter. putting down the wrong letter.

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putting down the wrong letter. Exactly the same thing happens when

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Exactly the same thing happens when Exactly the same thing happens when

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new DNA is created. Sometimes you new DNA is created. Sometimes you

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new DNA is created. Sometimes you new DNA is created. Sometimes you

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will get an error, which is known will get an error, which is known

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will get an error, which is known will get an error, which is known

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as a mutation. It is also an as a mutation. It is also an

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incredibly useful genetic marker. incredibly useful genetic marker.

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incredibly useful genetic marker. These mutations act as markers,

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These mutations act as markers, These mutations act as markers,

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These mutations act as markers, because they show the start of a

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because they show the start of a because they show the start of a

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new line of ancestry, and anybody new line of ancestry, and anybody

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new line of ancestry, and anybody new line of ancestry, and anybody

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who shares that market share as a who shares that market share as a

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who shares that market share as a common ancestor. -- marker shares.

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common ancestor. -- marker shares. common ancestor. -- marker shares.

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common ancestor. -- marker shares. I have sent a DNA sample to a

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I have sent a DNA sample to a I have sent a DNA sample to a

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population geneticist. He works for population geneticist. He works for

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population geneticist. He works for a genetics history company. He uses

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a genetics history company. He uses a genetics history company. He uses

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a genetics history company. He uses a method which reveals parts of the

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a method which reveals parts of the a method which reveals parts of the

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world my ancestors might have come world my ancestors might have come

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world my ancestors might have come from. We compare how many markers

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from. We compare how many markers from. We compare how many markers

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from. We compare how many markers you sure, how much DNA you share

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you sure, how much DNA you share you sure, how much DNA you share

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with people in our database, people with people in our database, people

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with people in our database, people from other parts of Europe, from

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from other parts of Europe, from from other parts of Europe, from

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the Near East, from Africa. They the Near East, from Africa. They

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the Near East, from Africa. They can cross reference samples with a

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can cross reference samples with a can cross reference samples with a

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worldwide database of more than worldwide database of more than

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worldwide database of more than 100,000 DNA records. By finding

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100,000 DNA records. By finding 100,000 DNA records. By finding

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100,000 DNA records. By finding where a market is most common, they

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where a market is most common, they where a market is most common, they

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can suggest where it originated. can suggest where it originated.

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can suggest where it originated. am guessing that on my mother's

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am guessing that on my mother's am guessing that on my mother's

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side, there is some Irish and side, there is some Irish and

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side, there is some Irish and Scottish, and on my father's side,

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Scottish, and on my father's side, Scottish, and on my father's side,

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the story goes that we were the story goes that we were

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the story goes that we were the story goes that we were

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Armenian. Well, I do not see any Armenian. Well, I do not see any

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Armenian. Well, I do not see any evidence of Armenian ancestry...

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evidence of Armenian ancestry... evidence of Armenian ancestry...

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where do they think my father's where do they think my father's

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where do they think my father's family might have come from?

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family might have come from? family might have come from?

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family might have come from? belong to a group which we call

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belong to a group which we call belong to a group which we call

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Germanic, for ease. It is most Germanic, for ease. It is most

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Germanic, for ease. It is most common, as you would predict, in

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common, as you would predict, in common, as you would predict, in

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common, as you would predict, in the north of Germany, and in the

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the north of Germany, and in the the north of Germany, and in the

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Low countries. That kind of Low countries. That kind of

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Low countries. That kind of rewrites our family history. How

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rewrites our family history. How interesting. In reality, though,

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interesting. In reality, though, interesting. In reality, though,

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this test only covers the Y this test only covers the Y

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this test only covers the Y chromosome from the father lie-in

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chromosome from the father lie-in chromosome from the father lie-in

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chromosome from the father lie-in and a certain kind of DNA from the

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and a certain kind of DNA from the motherland. A more comprehensive

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motherland. A more comprehensive motherland. A more comprehensive

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approach would be to study the approach would be to study the

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approach would be to study the whole genome, and despite recent

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whole genome, and despite recent whole genome, and despite recent

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publicity, it is difficult to publicity, it is difficult to

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identify individual ancestors with identify individual ancestors with

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identify individual ancestors with any certainty, because this test

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any certainty, because this test any certainty, because this test

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delves deeper into the past than delves deeper into the past than

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delves deeper into the past than most existing Genie ology records.

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most existing Genie ology records. most existing Genie ology records.

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It is not cheap, either. Tests It is not cheap, either. Tests

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It is not cheap, either. Tests start at around �170 each. But

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start at around �170 each. But start at around �170 each. But

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these limited results can be these limited results can be

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intriguing. We have gathered intriguing. We have gathered

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intriguing. We have gathered together around 50 people who have

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together around 50 people who have together around 50 people who have

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been tested. Their markers have got been tested. Their markers have got

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been tested. Their markers have got nicknames which indicate an early

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nicknames which indicate an early nicknames which indicate an early

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part of their lineage. My ancestors part of their lineage. My ancestors

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part of their lineage. My ancestors come from France. My father's line

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come from France. My father's line come from France. My father's line

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is Scandinavian. Ancient Irish. is Scandinavian. Ancient Irish.

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is Scandinavian. Ancient Irish. have asked the volunteers to sit

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have asked the volunteers to sit have asked the volunteers to sit

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with other people they show markers with other people they show markers

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with other people they show markers with other people they show markers

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with. The room reveals some of the with. The room reveals some of the

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with. The room reveals some of the broad results. It probably goes

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broad results. It probably goes broad results. It probably goes

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broad results. It probably goes broad results. It probably goes

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back a long way. It is also a very back a long way. It is also a very

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back a long way. It is also a very unusual type, and we have only

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unusual type, and we have only unusual type, and we have only

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unusual type, and we have only found one or two of them in

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found one or two of them in found one or two of them in

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found one or two of them in Scotland. I guess that is the joy

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Scotland. I guess that is the joy Scotland. I guess that is the joy

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Scotland. I guess that is the joy of DNA, it takes you places you

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of DNA, it takes you places you of DNA, it takes you places you

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have never imagined. So, yours came have never imagined. So, yours came

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have never imagined. So, yours came back inconclusive, but you did go

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back inconclusive, but you did go back inconclusive, but you did go

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back inconclusive, but you did go on Who Do You Think You Are?.

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on Who Do You Think You Are?. on Who Do You Think You Are?.

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on Who Do You Think You Are?. it wobbles -- it was one of the

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it wobbles -- it was one of the most extraordinary experiences of

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most extraordinary experiences of most extraordinary experiences of

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most extraordinary experiences of the last 10 years of my life. They

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the last 10 years of my life. They the last 10 years of my life. They

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went back down my maternal line, went back down my maternal line,

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went back down my maternal line, without any breaks, straight back,

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without any breaks, straight back, without any breaks, straight back,

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without any breaks, straight back, and it turned out that some of my

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and it turned out that some of my and it turned out that some of my

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ancestors were the very first ancestors were the very first

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ancestors were the very first settlers in Boston on the east

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settlers in Boston on the east settlers in Boston on the east

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settlers in Boston on the east coast of America. I was one of the

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coast of America. I was one of the first white Americans, genetically.

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first white Americans, genetically. first white Americans, genetically.

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They found out that another They found out that another

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They found out that another ancestor, about one generation down,

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ancestor, about one generation down, ancestor, about one generation down,

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ancestor, about one generation down, was the stepfather to a woman whom

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was the stepfather to a woman whom was the stepfather to a woman whom

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was the stepfather to a woman whom he what a start of his house, he

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he what a start of his house, he he what a start of his house, he

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he what a start of his house, he hated her, for some reason, and she

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hated her, for some reason, and she was eventually married, after

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was eventually married, after was eventually married, after

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was eventually married, after begging on the streets, to a guy

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begging on the streets, to a guy begging on the streets, to a guy

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from Salem in Massachusetts, and from Salem in Massachusetts, and

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from Salem in Massachusetts, and from Salem in Massachusetts, and

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she turned out to be the second she turned out to be the second

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she turned out to be the second she turned out to be the second

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witch to be hung in the witch witch to be hung in the witch

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witch to be hung in the witch trials. Pretty cool, hey? That's

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trials. Pretty cool, hey? That's trials. Pretty cool, hey? That's

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the inconclusive but! Now, straight the inconclusive but! Now, straight

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the inconclusive but! Now, straight after Askham Richard will be

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after Askham Richard will be after Askham Richard will be

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after Askham Richard will be running off at top speed to help

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running off at top speed to help running off at top speed to help

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Graham Norton with his presenting Graham Norton with his presenting

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Graham Norton with his presenting duties for his epic Comic Relief

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duties for his epic Comic Relief duties for his epic Comic Relief

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duties for his epic Comic Relief challenge. But the art of being a

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challenge. But the art of being a challenge. But the art of being a

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professional TV chat person has professional TV chat person has

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professional TV chat person has changed over the years, as

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changed over the years, as changed over the years, as

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Angellica Bell explains. For more Angellica Bell explains. For more

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Angellica Bell explains. For more than 60 years, the classic

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than 60 years, the classic than 60 years, the classic

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combination of sofa, studio and combination of sofa, studio and

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combination of sofa, studio and celebrity has kept the nation

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celebrity has kept the nation entertained. From showbiz to

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entertained. From showbiz to serious, to the downright

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serious, to the downright serious, to the downright

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disturbing, what does it take to disturbing, what does it take to

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disturbing, what does it take to make a great chat show? Surely

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make a great chat show? Surely make a great chat show? Surely

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make a great chat show? Surely there is more to it than just

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there is more to it than just there is more to it than just

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there is more to it than just asking a few questions? Let me tell

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asking a few questions? Let me tell asking a few questions? Let me tell

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you, back in 1962, America you, back in 1962, America

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you, back in 1962, America witnessed the birth of the first

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witnessed the birth of the first witnessed the birth of the first

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chat show superstar. Johnny Carson chat show superstar. Johnny Carson

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chat show superstar. Johnny Carson became a blueprint for the chat

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became a blueprint for the chat became a blueprint for the chat

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show, with music, jokes and one show, with music, jokes and one

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show, with music, jokes and one looks. After the war in Britain,

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looks. After the war in Britain, looks. After the war in Britain,

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audiences had to make do with audiences had to make do with

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audiences had to make do with something a bit less glitzy. This

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something a bit less glitzy. This something a bit less glitzy. This

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show was so focused on the show was so focused on the

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show was so focused on the interviewee, you never really got

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interviewee, you never really got interviewee, you never really got

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interviewee, you never really got to see more than the shoulder of

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to see more than the shoulder of to see more than the shoulder of

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the host. Ladies and gentlemen, the host. Ladies and gentlemen,

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the host. Ladies and gentlemen, the host. Ladies and gentlemen,

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first guest has twice been voted TV first guest has twice been voted TV

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first guest has twice been voted TV first guest has twice been voted TV

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critic of the year, please put your critic of the year, please put your

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critic of the year, please put your hands together for Mr mark Lawson!

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hands together for Mr mark Lawson! hands together for Mr mark Lawson!

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There have been two types of There have been two types of

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There have been two types of interview on television. The first

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interview on television. The first interview on television. The first

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grow out of newspaper journalism, grow out of newspaper journalism,

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grow out of newspaper journalism, and it was the one-to-one, the

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and it was the one-to-one, the face-to-face, an intense

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face-to-face, an intense face-to-face, an intense

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interrogation of one guest. I can interrogation of one guest. I can

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interrogation of one guest. I can remember seeing the clan actually

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remember seeing the clan actually beat negroes... Michael Parkinson,

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beat negroes... Michael Parkinson, beat negroes... Michael Parkinson,

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the former newspaper journalist, is the former newspaper journalist, is

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the former newspaper journalist, is the former newspaper journalist, is

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the great example of that. On the the great example of that. On the

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the great example of that. On the other hand, you have got comedians

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other hand, you have got comedians or performers. David frost,

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or performers. David frost, or performers. David frost,

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although he got his great interview although he got his great interview

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although he got his great interview with Richard Nixon, was a comedian

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with Richard Nixon, was a comedian with Richard Nixon, was a comedian

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presenter, and that line has been presenter, and that line has been

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presenter, and that line has been carried on by David Letterman,

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carried on by David Letterman, carried on by David Letterman,

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Graham Norton, Jonathan Ross, who Graham Norton, Jonathan Ross, who

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Graham Norton, Jonathan Ross, who in different ways are essentially

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in different ways are essentially in different ways are essentially

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comedians. In what ways have the comedians. In what ways have the

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comedians. In what ways have the guests changed? The only way you

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guests changed? The only way you guests changed? The only way you

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guests changed? The only way you will get access to Madonna or Brad

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will get access to Madonna or Brad will get access to Madonna or Brad

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will get access to Madonna or Brad Pitt is if they have something to

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Pitt is if they have something to Pitt is if they have something to

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Pitt is if they have something to flog, so it has become more and

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flog, so it has become more and flog, so it has become more and

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more of a fight against plugging more of a fight against plugging

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more of a fight against plugging and marketing. He has interviewed

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and marketing. He has interviewed and marketing. He has interviewed

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eight prime ministers, seven US eight prime ministers, seven US

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eight prime ministers, seven US President's, and now he is talking

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President's, and now he is talking President's, and now he is talking

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President's, and now he is talking to me - please welcome the legend

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to me - please welcome the legend to me - please welcome the legend

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of chat shows, Sir David frost. of chat shows, Sir David frost.

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of chat shows, Sir David frost. Hello, good evening and welcome.

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Hello, good evening and welcome. Hello, good evening and welcome.

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Hello, good evening and welcome. Beautifully done just an I am a bit

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Beautifully done just an I am a bit Beautifully done just an I am a bit

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Beautifully done just an I am a bit nervous talking to you, but as a

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nervous talking to you, but as a nervous talking to you, but as a

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nervous talking to you, but as a talk-show host, what can I do to

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talk-show host, what can I do to talk-show host, what can I do to

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talk-show host, what can I do to get you as my guest? Eye contact is

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get you as my guest? Eye contact is get you as my guest? Eye contact is

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get you as my guest? Eye contact is the key thing. Once you have got

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the key thing. Once you have got the key thing. Once you have got

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that, you learn more about them, that, you learn more about them,

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that, you learn more about them, and they will be concentrating on

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and they will be concentrating on and they will be concentrating on

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you and your questions, more than you and your questions, more than

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you and your questions, more than you and your questions, more than

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what they want to say. So in that what they want to say. So in that

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what they want to say. So in that situation, you take the initiative.

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situation, you take the initiative. situation, you take the initiative.

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What makes the perfect guest? What makes the perfect guest?

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What makes the perfect guest? What makes the perfect guest?

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would say it is someone who has would say it is someone who has

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would say it is someone who has real personality and has the

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real personality and has the real personality and has the

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ability to surprise you with what ability to surprise you with what

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ability to surprise you with what they say. For instance, I found

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they say. For instance, I found they say. For instance, I found

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they say. For instance, I found that out with John Lennon and Yoko

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that out with John Lennon and Yoko that out with John Lennon and Yoko

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were no. Because they were enjoying were no. Because they were enjoying

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were no. Because they were enjoying themselves, it was a very relaxed

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themselves, it was a very relaxed themselves, it was a very relaxed

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themselves, it was a very relaxed and easy session, as it were.

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and easy session, as it were. and easy session, as it were.

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and easy session, as it were. you run the questions by the guests

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you run the questions by the guests you run the questions by the guests

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beforehand? Never. With politics or beforehand? Never. With politics or

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beforehand? Never. With politics or serious topics, you cannot tell

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serious topics, you cannot tell serious topics, you cannot tell

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them in advance the questions. them in advance the questions.

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them in advance the questions. Surprised if any the great factor,

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Surprised if any the great factor, Surprised if any the great factor,

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Surprised if any the great factor, not in the sense of an ambush, but

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not in the sense of an ambush, but not in the sense of an ambush, but

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asking them questions they did not asking them questions they did not

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asking them questions they did not asking them questions they did not

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know they were going to be asked, know they were going to be asked,

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know they were going to be asked, and that they enjoy trying to

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and that they enjoy trying to and that they enjoy trying to

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and that they enjoy trying to answer. How have I done?I think

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answer. How have I done?I think answer. How have I done?I think

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answer. How have I done?I think you have done just superb. I think

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you have done just superb. I think you have done just superb. I think

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you have done just superb. I think she is a born star. Well, just

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she is a born star. Well, just she is a born star. Well, just

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maybe the real secret is, whatever maybe the real secret is, whatever

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maybe the real secret is, whatever happens, just keep talking. Well,

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happens, just keep talking. Well, happens, just keep talking. Well,

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happens, just keep talking. Well, maybe my cooking. Oh, I think that

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maybe my cooking. Oh, I think that maybe my cooking. Oh, I think that

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maybe my cooking. Oh, I think that is a fara long. It was a wonderful

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is a fara long. It was a wonderful is a fara long. It was a wonderful

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is a fara long. It was a wonderful moment! It was, because we got to

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moment! It was, because we got to moment! It was, because we got to

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go home early. We were wondering go home early. We were wondering

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go home early. We were wondering go home early. We were wondering

:12:35.:12:36.

whether or not we were going to whether or not we were going to

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whether or not we were going to whether or not we were going to

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come back in, and they said, no, come back in, and they said, no,

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come back in, and they said, no, come back in, and they said, no,

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you have run out of time. That you have run out of time. That

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you have run out of time. That you have run out of time. That

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never happened to us. This used to never happened to us. This used to

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never happened to us. This used to be an office, so they left

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be an office, so they left be an office, so they left

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be an office, so they left everything in. But you did it for

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everything in. But you did it for everything in. But you did it for

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everything in. But you did it for 21 years, what we are doing. Yes.

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21 years, what we are doing. Yes. 21 years, what we are doing. Yes.

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Everybody asks asked, who were the Everybody asks asked, who were the

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Everybody asks asked, who were the best guests and the worst? We

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best guests and the worst? We best guests and the worst? We

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best guests and the worst? We always say the same. We want to

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always say the same. We want to always say the same. We want to

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always say the same. We want to know who was your worst and best?

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know who was your worst and best? know who was your worst and best?

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would say the best were the would say the best were the

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would say the best were the Clintons, and we didn't separately.

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Clintons, and we didn't separately. Hillary Clinton in particular,

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Hillary Clinton in particular, Hillary Clinton in particular,

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because she is so bright. Judy because she is so bright. Judy

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because she is so bright. Judy asked her just the right question

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asked her just the right question asked her just the right question

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about Monica Lewinsky, which was about Monica Lewinsky, which was

:13:19.:13:20.

about Monica Lewinsky, which was about Monica Lewinsky, which was

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the elephant in the room, and she the elephant in the room, and she

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the elephant in the room, and she the elephant in the room, and she

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put it in such a good way that put it in such a good way that

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put it in such a good way that Hillary Clinton felt confident and

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Hillary Clinton felt confident and Hillary Clinton felt confident and

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relaxed, and she thought, that was relaxed, and she thought, that was

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relaxed, and she thought, that was relaxed, and she thought, that was

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the big one over, and she relaxed, the big one over, and she relaxed,

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the big one over, and she relaxed, and she gave a brilliant interview.

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and she gave a brilliant interview. and she gave a brilliant interview.

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Bill Clinton was a very close Bill Clinton was a very close

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Bill Clinton was a very close second. But the worst one was

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second. But the worst one was second. But the worst one was

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undoubtedly Chris Rock. Why?He undoubtedly Chris Rock. Why?He

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undoubtedly Chris Rock. Why?He undoubtedly Chris Rock. Why?He

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came on with Ben Stiller to promote came on with Ben Stiller to promote

:13:43.:13:45.

came on with Ben Stiller to promote Madagascar. Ben Stiller was great

:13:45.:13:46.

Madagascar. Ben Stiller was great Madagascar. Ben Stiller was great

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Madagascar. Ben Stiller was great but Chris Rock was just awful. He

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but Chris Rock was just awful. He but Chris Rock was just awful. He

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but Chris Rock was just awful. He kept turning his back on Judy, he

:13:50.:13:51.

kept turning his back on Judy, he kept turning his back on Judy, he

:13:51.:13:53.

thought he was being funny, and thought he was being funny, and

:13:53.:13:54.

interrupting questions, by speaking interrupting questions, by speaking

:13:54.:13:58.

interrupting questions, by speaking interrupting questions, by speaking

:13:58.:13:59.

to Ben Stiller. It was one of the to Ben Stiller. It was one of the

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to Ben Stiller. It was one of the rare pre- recorded moments, but had

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rare pre- recorded moments, but had rare pre- recorded moments, but had

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rare pre- recorded moments, but had it been alive, I would have said to

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it been alive, I would have said to it been alive, I would have said to

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it been alive, I would have said to him, why don't you go and get a

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him, why don't you go and get a him, why don't you go and get a

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him, why don't you go and get a coffee? But it was a pre- record so

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coffee? But it was a pre- record so coffee? But it was a pre- record so

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coffee? But it was a pre- record so we had to edit around it. I was

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we had to edit around it. I was we had to edit around it. I was

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asked this question for a magazine, asked this question for a magazine,

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asked this question for a magazine, asked this question for a magazine,

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and I said it was Chris Rock, and I said it was Chris Rock,

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and I said it was Chris Rock, and I said it was Chris Rock,

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because I said he was a complete... because I said he was a complete...

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because I said he was a complete... because I said he was a complete...

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It was a really bad word. About It was a really bad word. About

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It was a really bad word. About three months later, in the magazine,

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three months later, in the magazine, three months later, in the magazine,

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three months later, in the magazine, there was a big picture of Chris

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there was a big picture of Chris there was a big picture of Chris

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Rock, and underneath it was the Rock, and underneath it was the

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Rock, and underneath it was the captain, and they had actually

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captain, and they had actually Now, you are doing this thing for

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Now, you are doing this thing for Now, you are doing this thing for

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Now, you are doing this thing for Comic Relief. Oh, yes, Ali G.Well,

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Comic Relief. Oh, yes, Ali G.Well, Comic Relief. Oh, yes, Ali G.Well,

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we wondered... I have �5.50. we wondered... I have �5.50.

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we wondered... I have �5.50. we wondered... I have �5.50.

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If you put that down for Comic If you put that down for Comic

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If you put that down for Comic If you put that down for Comic

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Relief, will you put this on with Relief, will you put this on with

:15:03.:15:05.

Relief, will you put this on with Relief, will you put this on with

:15:05.:15:06.

the glasses? Good lad! I have not the glasses? Good lad! I have not

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the glasses? Good lad! I have not done this since 1990, whenever it

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was. was.

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was. This is great. While you are

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This is great. While you are This is great. While you are

:15:12.:15:15.

getting on, tell us what is happening tonight.

:15:15.:15:17.

happening tonight. happening tonight.

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happening tonight. happening tonight.

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Is it cos I is black. Do you have Is it cos I is black. Do you have

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Is it cos I is black. Do you have my Judy with you? Right, Graham

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my Judy with you? Right, Graham my Judy with you? Right, Graham

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Norton is doing a marathon show Norton is doing a marathon show

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Norton is doing a marathon show from 7.00pm to 1.00am. Asking the

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from 7.00pm to 1.00am. Asking the from 7.00pm to 1.00am. Asking the

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most number of different questions most number of different questions

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most number of different questions most number of different questions

:15:31.:15:32.

on a live chat show. People can on a live chat show. People can

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on a live chat show. People can on a live chat show. People can

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text in the questions. They must be text in the questions. They must be

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text in the questions. They must be different questions. He will have

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different questions. He will have different questions. He will have

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different questions. He will have co-hosts along the way. I will be

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co-hosts along the way. I will be co-hosts along the way. I will be

:15:40.:15:41.

helping him for half an hour. helping him for half an hour.

:15:41.:15:43.

helping him for half an hour. helping him for half an hour.

:15:43.:15:45.

Do you know which guests you have Do you know which guests you have

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Do you know which guests you have Do you know which guests you have

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got? Oh, yes, 358 Omagh Faith and got? Oh, yes, 358 Omagh Faith and

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got? Oh, yes, 358 Omagh Faith and someone else! There are about 40

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someone else! There are about 40 guests all together. Ronnie

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guests all together. Ronnie guests all together. Ronnie

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Corbett... Yes. There is also a Corbett... Yes. There is also a

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Corbett... Yes. There is also a kissing booth. The live kissing

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kissing booth. The live kissing kissing booth. The live kissing

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booth and beautiful famous people, booth and beautiful famous people,

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booth and beautiful famous people, booth and beautiful famous people,

:16:02.:16:02.

prepared to be kiss. So if you come prepared to be kiss. So if you come

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prepared to be kiss. So if you come down to the Television Centre, you

:16:04.:16:04.

down to the Television Centre, you down to the Television Centre, you

:16:04.:16:06.

down to the Television Centre, you can make a donation and get a kiss.

:16:06.:16:07.

can make a donation and get a kiss. can make a donation and get a kiss.

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can make a donation and get a kiss. How cool is that sham Check it!Ali

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How cool is that sham Check it!Ali How cool is that sham Check it!Ali

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How cool is that sham Check it!Ali G! As Richard was saying you can

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G! As Richard was saying you can G! As Richard was saying you can

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see Comic Relief's Big Chat With see Comic Relief's Big Chat With

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see Comic Relief's Big Chat With Graham Norton tonight up until

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1.00am. 1.00am.

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1.00am. Now on the show yesterday, Justin

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Now on the show yesterday, Justin Now on the show yesterday, Justin

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Rowlatt began his journey finding Rowlatt began his journey finding

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Rowlatt began his journey finding out about what his grandfather did

:16:24.:16:26.

out about what his grandfather did during the war.

:16:26.:16:28.

during the war. during the war.

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It was extraordinary. Tonight he It was extraordinary. Tonight he

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It was extraordinary. Tonight he discovers more about his final

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moments. moments.

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moments. Recently, I discovered that my

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Recently, I discovered that my Recently, I discovered that my

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grandfather was recruited to be a grandfather was recruited to be a

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grandfather was recruited to be a part of a secret intelligence

:16:40.:16:43.

part of a secret intelligence part of a secret intelligence

:16:43.:16:44.

part of a secret intelligence commando team, set up by none other

:16:44.:16:46.

commando team, set up by none other commando team, set up by none other

:16:46.:16:47.

commando team, set up by none other than Ian Fleming. The man who would

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than Ian Fleming. The man who would than Ian Fleming. The man who would

:16:49.:16:50.

than Ian Fleming. The man who would go on to create James Bond. On June

:16:50.:16:52.

go on to create James Bond. On June go on to create James Bond. On June

:16:52.:16:54.

the 10th, four days after the the 10th, four days after the

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the 10th, four days after the greatest invasion in history, D-Day.

:16:55.:16:56.

greatest invasion in history, D-Day. greatest invasion in history, D-Day.

:16:56.:16:59.

greatest invasion in history, D-Day. He set out on his first mission. My

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He set out on his first mission. My He set out on his first mission. My

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grandfather was lucky. There was grandfather was lucky. There was

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grandfather was lucky. There was almost no resistance when the team

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almost no resistance when the team almost no resistance when the team

:17:05.:17:07.

landed here at Utah Beach. landed here at Utah Beach.

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landed here at Utah Beach. One of my grand father's comrades,

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One of my grand father's comrades, One of my grand father's comrades,

:17:12.:17:13.

remembers them landing in the aftermath invasion.

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aftermath invasion. aftermath invasion.

:17:14.:17:15.

aftermath invasion. You see that the boat is lying all

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You see that the boat is lying all over the place.

:17:17.:17:18.

over the place. over the place.

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over the place. They really had a tough time, but

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They really had a tough time, but They really had a tough time, but

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They really had a tough time, but they did the business. We walked to

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they did the business. We walked to they did the business. We walked to

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shore almost with dry feet. shore almost with dry feet.

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shore almost with dry feet. shore almost with dry feet.

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But the unit's luck would not last. But the unit's luck would not last.

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But the unit's luck would not last. Historian Pall Wood age helps the

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Historian Pall Wood age helps the Historian Pall Wood age helps the

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relatives retrace the steps of the relatives retrace the steps of the

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relatives retrace the steps of the men who fought on these beaches.

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men who fought on these beaches. men who fought on these beaches.

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men who fought on these beaches. What was the main target? 20 miles

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What was the main target? 20 miles What was the main target? 20 miles

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What was the main target? 20 miles up the road is the biggest German

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up the road is the biggest German army base in Normandy.

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army base in Normandy. army base in Normandy.

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So where did my grandfather then So where did my grandfather then

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So where did my grandfather then So where did my grandfather then

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go? They are moving up the beach go? They are moving up the beach

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go? They are moving up the beach go? They are moving up the beach

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and down from highland to the road. and down from highland to the road.

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Let's have a look. Let's have a look.

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Let's have a look. From the veteran accounts, and the

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From the veteran accounts, and the From the veteran accounts, and the

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From the veteran accounts, and the maps that they used, we traced the

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maps that they used, we traced the maps that they used, we traced the

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three miles from Utah Beach, in three miles from Utah Beach, in

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three miles from Utah Beach, in search of where my grandfather and

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search of where my grandfather and his unit bedded down.

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his unit bedded down. his unit bedded down.

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his unit bedded down. Is this the field?. This is the one,

:18:12.:18:14.

Is this the field?. This is the one, Is this the field?. This is the one,

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Is this the field?. This is the one, we are coming into it now. It fits

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we are coming into it now. It fits we are coming into it now. It fits

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what the veterans told us. It does.

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It does. It does.

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Here, my grandfather and his troop Here, my grandfather and his troop

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Here, my grandfather and his troop Here, my grandfather and his troop

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dug in for the light, but suddenly dug in for the light, but suddenly

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dug in for the light, but suddenly a German bomber spotted their

:18:25.:18:28.

a German bomber spotted their position an attacked.

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position an attacked. position an attacked.

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The old bombs scattered everything The old bombs scattered everything

:18:32.:18:33.

The old bombs scattered everything sideways. That is what hit your

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sideways. That is what hit your sideways. That is what hit your

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grandfather. I think it was the grandfather. I think it was the

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grandfather. I think it was the Finn it wasn't straight into his

:18:40.:18:43.

Finn it wasn't straight into his Finn it wasn't straight into his

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heart. He died instantly. It is heart. He died instantly. It is

:18:45.:18:46.

heart. He died instantly. It is extraordinary, 70 years on, almost,

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extraordinary, 70 years on, almost, extraordinary, 70 years on, almost,

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extraordinary, 70 years on, almost, to speak to you, you, who were

:18:50.:18:51.

to speak to you, you, who were to speak to you, you, who were

:18:51.:18:53.

there when my grandfather died. there when my grandfather died.

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Yes. Poor chap. Yes. Poor chap.

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Yes. Poor chap. Yes. Poor chap.

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At 44, he died just a few years At 44, he died just a few years

:18:58.:18:59.

At 44, he died just a few years younger than me and barely hours

:18:59.:19:04.

younger than me and barely hours into his first mission.

:19:04.:19:05.

into his first mission. into his first mission.

:19:05.:19:06.

into his first mission. It is incredible to think that my,

:19:06.:19:08.

It is incredible to think that my, It is incredible to think that my,

:19:08.:19:09.

you know my family were shattered you know my family were shattered

:19:09.:19:11.

by what happened here. by what happened here.

:19:11.:19:13.

by what happened here. by what happened here.

:19:13.:19:23.
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My mum and her sister's lives were The tragic news came home in a

:19:25.:19:26.

The tragic news came home in a The tragic news came home in a

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three-line telegram. My aunt, who three-line telegram. My aunt, who

:19:27.:19:29.

three-line telegram. My aunt, who was nine, remembers her mother

:19:29.:19:33.

opening it. opening it.

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opening it. opening it.

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She said, "Oh, he's gone." I never She said, "Oh, he's gone." I never

:19:39.:19:40.

She said, "Oh, he's gone." I never expected it. We went into the

:19:40.:19:41.

expected it. We went into the expected it. We went into the

:19:41.:19:42.

expected it. We went into the sitting room. She sat down. I think

:19:42.:19:45.

sitting room. She sat down. I think we all cried.

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we all cried. we all cried.

:19:50.:19:52.

I can remember saying, "Daddy's I can remember saying, "Daddy's

:19:52.:19:55.

I can remember saying, "Daddy's dead. Daddy's dead. Daddy's dead."

:19:55.:19:56.

dead. Daddy's dead. Daddy's dead." dead. Daddy's dead. Daddy's dead."

:19:56.:19:59.

dead. Daddy's dead. Daddy's dead." But one thing I am certain of is

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But one thing I am certain of is But one thing I am certain of is

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that my grandfather would feel that my grandfather would feel

:20:00.:20:03.

that my grandfather would feel that my grandfather would feel

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pride in what 30 Assault Unit would pride in what 30 Assault Unit would

:20:05.:20:09.

pride in what 30 Assault Unit would go on to achieve. They seized

:20:09.:20:12.

go on to achieve. They seized Germany's entire Naval archive,

:20:12.:20:16.

Germany's entire Naval archive, Germany's entire Naval archive,

:20:16.:20:17.

latter used in the Nuremberg trials, latter used in the Nuremberg trials,

:20:17.:20:19.

latter used in the Nuremberg trials, latter used in the Nuremberg trials,

:20:19.:20:19.

sealing the end of the Third Reich. sealing the end of the Third Reich.

:20:19.:20:21.

sealing the end of the Third Reich. Of course, my grandfather would

:20:21.:20:23.

Of course, my grandfather would Of course, my grandfather would

:20:23.:20:24.

never get to celebrate those never get to celebrate those

:20:24.:20:25.

never get to celebrate those successes. His unit was soon

:20:25.:20:30.

disbanded. disbanded.

:20:30.:20:33.

disbanded. disbanded.

:20:33.:20:34.

But I am immensely proud of the But I am immensely proud of the

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But I am immensely proud of the sacrifice that he and his comrades

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made. made.

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made. made.

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And there we are. Justin and Anthea And there we are. Justin and Anthea

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And there we are. Justin and Anthea And there we are. Justin and Anthea

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join us to talk about this a little join us to talk about this a little

:20:49.:20:51.

join us to talk about this a little more. It is incredibly emotional.

:20:51.:20:53.

more. It is incredibly emotional. more. It is incredibly emotional.

:20:53.:20:54.

Both films have been incredible. Both films have been incredible.

:20:54.:20:56.

Both films have been incredible. Anthea, you mentioned in the first

:20:56.:20:57.

Anthea, you mentioned in the first Anthea, you mentioned in the first

:20:57.:20:59.

Anthea, you mentioned in the first film, you knew there was a lot of

:20:59.:21:00.

film, you knew there was a lot of film, you knew there was a lot of

:21:00.:21:01.

secrecy around what your dad was secrecy around what your dad was

:21:01.:21:02.

secrecy around what your dad was secrecy around what your dad was

:21:02.:21:03.

doing. Do you think that your mum doing. Do you think that your mum

:21:03.:21:05.

doing. Do you think that your mum doing. Do you think that your mum

:21:05.:21:06.

knew what his job was? I don't know knew what his job was? I don't know

:21:06.:21:07.

knew what his job was? I don't know knew what his job was? I don't know

:21:07.:21:08.

how much she knew. She would not how much she knew. She would not

:21:08.:21:09.

how much she knew. She would not how much she knew. She would not

:21:09.:21:10.

have told us, any way, but what I have told us, any way, but what I

:21:10.:21:11.

have told us, any way, but what I have told us, any way, but what I

:21:11.:21:12.

do know is that when the war was do know is that when the war was

:21:12.:21:14.

do know is that when the war was do know is that when the war was

:21:14.:21:15.

over, and he had not come back, she over, and he had not come back, she

:21:15.:21:16.

over, and he had not come back, she over, and he had not come back, she

:21:16.:21:18.

knew an awful lot. She said she knew an awful lot. She said she

:21:18.:21:19.

knew an awful lot. She said she knew an awful lot. She said she

:21:19.:21:21.

knew that he had a model made of knew that he had a model made of

:21:21.:21:22.

knew that he had a model made of knew that he had a model made of

:21:22.:21:23.

where he was going. What was the where he was going. What was the

:21:23.:21:24.

where he was going. What was the where he was going. What was the

:21:24.:21:25.

objective of where he was going. So objective of where he was going. So

:21:25.:21:26.

objective of where he was going. So objective of where he was going. So

:21:26.:21:27.

they did talk to each other, but they did talk to each other, but

:21:27.:21:30.

they did talk to each other, but obviously she did not tell us.

:21:30.:21:31.

obviously she did not tell us. obviously she did not tell us.

:21:31.:21:32.

obviously she did not tell us. Knowing what you know now, does it

:21:32.:21:34.

Knowing what you know now, does it Knowing what you know now, does it

:21:34.:21:36.

give you closure? Finally, you know give you closure? Finally, you know

:21:36.:21:37.

give you closure? Finally, you know give you closure? Finally, you know

:21:37.:21:38.

exactly what it is that your dad exactly what it is that your dad

:21:38.:21:40.

exactly what it is that your dad did? It has been amazingly helpful.

:21:40.:21:44.

did? It has been amazingly helpful. did? It has been amazingly helpful.

:21:44.:21:45.

It really has been. Amazingly It really has been. Amazingly

:21:45.:21:52.

helpful. Having read Nicholas helpful. Having read Nicholas

:21:52.:21:54.

helpful. Having read Nicholas Ranking's book? He was really

:21:54.:21:57.

Ranking's book? He was really Ranking's book? He was really

:21:57.:21:57.

Ranking's book? He was really helpful in getting us in touch of

:21:57.:22:01.

helpful in getting us in touch of helpful in getting us in touch of

:22:01.:22:03.

veterans. It is called the 30 veterans. It is called the 30

:22:03.:22:05.

veterans. It is called the 30 Commando. That is what they were.

:22:05.:22:06.

Commando. That is what they were. Commando. That is what they were.

:22:06.:22:08.

It was wonderful. This programme It was wonderful. This programme

:22:08.:22:08.

It was wonderful. This programme It was wonderful. This programme

:22:09.:22:10.

has been helpful! What a find to go has been helpful! What a find to go

:22:10.:22:12.

has been helpful! What a find to go to the field? It is extraordinary

:22:12.:22:13.

to the field? It is extraordinary to the field? It is extraordinary

:22:13.:22:14.

to the field? It is extraordinary to zis cover that your grand fath,

:22:14.:22:18.

to zis cover that your grand fath, to zis cover that your grand fath,

:22:18.:22:20.

to zis cover that your grand fath, we knew he was, had died at D-Day

:22:20.:22:21.

we knew he was, had died at D-Day we knew he was, had died at D-Day

:22:21.:22:22.

we knew he was, had died at D-Day but what we did not know was that

:22:22.:22:24.

but what we did not know was that but what we did not know was that

:22:24.:22:25.

he was hand-picked by Fleming to he was hand-picked by Fleming to

:22:25.:22:26.

he was hand-picked by Fleming to he was hand-picked by Fleming to

:22:27.:22:28.

spend time in the unit. It gave me spend time in the unit. It gave me

:22:28.:22:29.

spend time in the unit. It gave me spend time in the unit. It gave me

:22:29.:22:31.

access to a story, you knew more access to a story, you knew more

:22:31.:22:32.

access to a story, you knew more access to a story, you knew more

:22:32.:22:33.

about it than I did. I had not about it than I did. I had not

:22:34.:22:35.

about it than I did. I had not about it than I did. I had not

:22:35.:22:37.

known about it. It took me on a known about it. It took me on a

:22:37.:22:38.

known about it. It took me on a journey that was moving and engaged

:22:38.:22:39.

journey that was moving and engaged journey that was moving and engaged

:22:40.:22:41.

journey that was moving and engaged journey that was moving and engaged

:22:41.:22:43.

me in the history of my family in a me in the history of my family in a

:22:43.:22:44.

me in the history of my family in a me in the history of my family in a

:22:45.:22:46.

way that I had not had before. If way that I had not had before. If

:22:46.:22:48.

way that I had not had before. If anyones that stories like that in

:22:48.:22:49.

anyones that stories like that in anyones that stories like that in

:22:49.:22:50.

their family, I would recommend their family, I would recommend

:22:50.:22:51.

their family, I would recommend their family, I would recommend

:22:52.:22:53.

that they go out and explore them. that they go out and explore them.

:22:53.:22:54.

that they go out and explore them. that they go out and explore them.

:22:54.:22:55.

that they go out and explore them. And in a way there is more. It is

:22:55.:22:56.

And in a way there is more. It is And in a way there is more. It is

:22:56.:22:58.

still coming out. It was incredible still coming out. It was incredible

:22:58.:23:00.

still coming out. It was incredible still coming out. It was incredible

:23:00.:23:02.

to meet the people who knew him. to meet the people who knew him.

:23:02.:23:03.

to meet the people who knew him. They remember vividly the moment,

:23:03.:23:04.

They remember vividly the moment, They remember vividly the moment,

:23:04.:23:07.

They remember vividly the moment, the time of his death. To sith

:23:07.:23:08.

the time of his death. To sith the time of his death. To sith

:23:08.:23:09.

the time of his death. To sith there with them, 70 years on it is

:23:09.:23:11.

there with them, 70 years on it is there with them, 70 years on it is

:23:11.:23:12.

a real privilege. Anthea, what we a real privilege. Anthea, what we

:23:12.:23:14.

love about you. love about you.

:23:14.:23:15.

love about you. You have something to kprem rate

:23:15.:23:21.

You have something to kprem rate You have something to kprem rate

:23:21.:23:26.

your dad, haven't you? Come emrate your dad, haven't you? Come emrate

:23:26.:23:30.

your dad, haven't you? Come emrate your dad, have been you? Yes!

:23:30.:23:33.

your dad, have been you? Yes! your dad, have been you? Yes!

:23:33.:23:37.

Anthea had this done at 72. APPLAUSE

:23:37.:23:38.

APPLAUSE APPLAUSE

:23:38.:23:39.

The story about the colouring is The story about the colouring is

:23:40.:23:40.

The story about the colouring is The story about the colouring is

:23:40.:23:42.

that it had to be dark blew. That that it had to be dark blew. That

:23:42.:23:43.

that it had to be dark blew. That that it had to be dark blew. That

:23:43.:23:44.

is what I remember him wearing in is what I remember him wearing in

:23:44.:23:45.

is what I remember him wearing in his uniform it needed yellow for

:23:45.:23:46.

his uniform it needed yellow for his uniform it needed yellow for

:23:46.:23:47.

his uniform it needed yellow for the gold braid that they wore on

:23:47.:23:51.

their cuffs. their cuffs.

:23:51.:23:53.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

:23:53.:23:54.

Thank you so much. It has been fascinating to hear

:23:54.:23:54.

It has been fascinating to hear It has been fascinating to hear

:23:55.:23:56.

It has been fascinating to hear your story over the last couple of

:23:56.:23:58.

your story over the last couple of your story over the last couple of

:23:58.:24:00.

days. Now, for many people, Vicky days. Now, for many people, Vicky

:24:00.:24:04.

days. Now, for many people, Vicky Pryce's attempts to get her husband

:24:04.:24:06.

Pryce's attempts to get her husband Pryce's attempts to get her husband

:24:07.:24:08.

Pryce's attempts to get her husband in court, was a simple course of

:24:08.:24:09.

in court, was a simple course of in court, was a simple course of

:24:09.:24:11.

events.Ed it she was found guilty events.Ed it she was found guilty

:24:11.:24:13.

events.Ed it she was found guilty of perverting the course of justice.

:24:13.:24:15.

of perverting the course of justice. of perverting the course of justice.

:24:15.:24:15.

John Sergeant says that justice is John Sergeant says that justice is

:24:15.:24:16.

John Sergeant says that justice is John Sergeant says that justice is

:24:16.:24:20.

not always as sweet as it should be. not always as sweet as it should be.

:24:20.:24:22.

not always as sweet as it should be. not always as sweet as it should be.

:24:22.:24:23.

It has been said that hell hath no It has been said that hell hath no

:24:23.:24:25.

It has been said that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. There

:24:25.:24:26.

fury like a woman scorned. There fury like a woman scorned. There

:24:26.:24:28.

fury like a woman scorned. There has been no denying in that truth.

:24:28.:24:29.

has been no denying in that truth. has been no denying in that truth.

:24:29.:24:31.

It was revenge that fuelled the It was revenge that fuelled the

:24:31.:24:33.

It was revenge that fuelled the It was revenge that fuelled the

:24:33.:24:35.

court case. Vicky Pryce let it be court case. Vicky Pryce let it be

:24:35.:24:36.

court case. Vicky Pryce let it be known she had reluctantly accepted

:24:36.:24:38.

known she had reluctantly accepted known she had reluctantly accepted

:24:38.:24:39.

Chris Huhne's penalty points. She Chris Huhne's penalty points. She

:24:39.:24:40.

Chris Huhne's penalty points. She Chris Huhne's penalty points. She

:24:40.:24:42.

wanted to nail him to pay him back wanted to nail him to pay him back

:24:42.:24:44.

wanted to nail him to pay him back wanted to nail him to pay him back

:24:44.:24:45.

for his affair. Men too can wreak for his affair. Men too can wreak

:24:46.:24:47.

revenge. William Shakespeare's revenge. William Shakespeare's

:24:47.:24:49.

revenge. William Shakespeare's Hamlet, avenging the death of his

:24:49.:24:55.

Hamlet, avenging the death of his Hamlet, avenging the death of his

:24:56.:24:56.

father and Cristo savaging his father and Cristo savaging his

:24:56.:24:58.

escape from prison. escape from prison.

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escape from prison. escape from prison.

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The thing about revenge, is that we The thing about revenge, is that we

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The thing about revenge, is that we The thing about revenge, is that we

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have fantasies but few act them out. have fantasies but few act them out.

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have fantasies but few act them out. have fantasies but few act them out.

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So when it does happen, we can life So when it does happen, we can life

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So when it does happen, we can life through them excitingly. There is

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through them excitingly. There is through them excitingly. There is

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the famous story of Nick Faldo, the famous story of Nick Faldo,

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the famous story of Nick Faldo, when he dumped his girlfriend, she

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when he dumped his girlfriend, she when he dumped his girlfriend, she

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took out revenge by getting his took out revenge by getting his

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took out revenge by getting his golf clubs and smashing up his

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golf clubs and smashing up his Porsche. His most treasured

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possession. possession.

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possession. possession.

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20 years ago, Lady Moon became a 20 years ago, Lady Moon became a

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household name after her household name after her

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extraordinary reaction to her husband's affair.

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husband's affair. husband's affair.

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husband's affair. He had sold the family house for a

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He had sold the family house for a He had sold the family house for a

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He had sold the family house for a lot of money and put it straight to

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lot of money and put it straight to lot of money and put it straight to

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lot of money and put it straight to South Africa where he was to live

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South Africa where he was to live South Africa where he was to live

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with this new lovely young woman. with this new lovely young woman.

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with this new lovely young woman. Therefore, even I knew then that

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Therefore, even I knew then that Therefore, even I knew then that

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getting money back from South getting money back from South

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getting money back from South Africa was almost impossible. He

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Africa was almost impossible. He Africa was almost impossible. He

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Africa was almost impossible. He went down and fell about this woman.

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went down and fell about this woman. went down and fell about this woman.

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went down and fell about this woman. She lived about half a mile away.

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She lived about half a mile away. She lived about half a mile away.

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She lived about half a mile away. Every time I went past there was

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his car. his car.

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his car. his car.

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So, by rubbing salt into the wound So, by rubbing salt into the wound

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So, by rubbing salt into the wound over and over again, it felt.

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over and over again, it felt. over and over again, it felt.

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over and over again, it felt. over and over again, it felt.

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What did you do? I took two pots of What did you do? I took two pots of

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What did you do? I took two pots of white emulsion and poured it over

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white emulsion and poured it over white emulsion and poured it over

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white emulsion and poured it over his car in the dead of night. Then

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his car in the dead of night. Then his car in the dead of night. Then

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his car in the dead of night. Then his car in the dead of night. Then

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I cut off one arm of, I think about I cut off one arm of, I think about

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I cut off one arm of, I think about I cut off one arm of, I think about

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36 suits. Then I gave away his wine cellar.

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cellar. cellar.

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cellar. Which I dropped on with the milk

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Which I dropped on with the milk bottles around the neighbourhood.

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bottles around the neighbourhood. bottles around the neighbourhood.

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bottles around the neighbourhood. You got your revenge? I got the

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You got your revenge? I got the You got your revenge? I got the

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You got your revenge? I got the attention of the world. I did not

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attention of the world. I did not attention of the world. I did not

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attention of the world. I did not realise that is what I wanted. I

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realise that is what I wanted. I realise that is what I wanted. I

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realise that is what I wanted. I wanted somebody to listen to me, to

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comfort me. comfort me.

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comfort me. comfort me.

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If you look back on this, does it If you look back on this, does it

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If you look back on this, does it If you look back on this, does it

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seem a sensible thing to do? No. It seem a sensible thing to do? No. It

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seem a sensible thing to do? No. It was very, very stupid. Very stupid.

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was very, very stupid. Very stupid. was very, very stupid. Very stupid.

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Humiliation can be a weapon. The Humiliation can be a weapon. The

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Humiliation can be a weapon. The more public the humiliation, the

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better. better.

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better. better.

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In 2008 there was an example of In 2008 there was an example of

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In 2008 there was an example of Jimmy Wales, the founder of

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Jimmy Wales, the founder of Jimmy Wales, the founder of

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Wikipedia, who dumped his partner Wikipedia, who dumped his partner

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Wikipedia, who dumped his partner on the Wikipedia page. She took

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on the Wikipedia page. She took on the Wikipedia page. She took

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revenge by going on eBay and revenge by going on eBay and

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selling his dirty laundry. selling his dirty laundry.

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selling his dirty laundry. But sometimes, these situations can

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But sometimes, these situations can But sometimes, these situations can

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But sometimes, these situations can get out of hand and be violent and

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unpleasant. unpleasant.

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unpleasant. The most horrible stories in living

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The most horrible stories in living The most horrible stories in living

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memory was the won of LoreenaBobbit. memory was the won of LoreenaBobbit.

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memory was the won of LoreenaBobbit. memory was the won of LoreenaBobbit.

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Who came into the house and cut off his manhood.

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his manhood. his manhood.

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his manhood. What is a good example of someone

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What is a good example of someone What is a good example of someone

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What is a good example of someone who played it well? Prid. On the

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who played it well? Prid. On the who played it well? Prid. On the

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night that Prince Charles announced night that Prince Charles announced

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night that Prince Charles announced night that Prince Charles announced

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on an interview, he had been having on an interview, he had been having

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on an interview, he had been having an affair -- Princess Diana. Diana

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an affair -- Princess Diana. Diana an affair -- Princess Diana. Diana

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turned up, looking a million turned up, looking a million

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turned up, looking a million dollars in a black dress. Looking

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dollars in a black dress. Looking dollars in a black dress. Looking

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as if Prince Charles was ancient as if Prince Charles was ancient

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as if Prince Charles was ancient history. She moved on, the whole

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history. She moved on, the whole history. She moved on, the whole

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history. She moved on, the whole world was at her feet. That was the

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world was at her feet. That was the world was at her feet. That was the

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only way to have revenge. only way to have revenge.

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only way to have revenge. What is your advice if somebody

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What is your advice if somebody What is your advice if somebody

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What is your advice if somebody says to you they would like to

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says to you they would like to says to you they would like to

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exact revenge? What would your exact revenge? What would your

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exact revenge? What would your exact revenge? What would your

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answer be? Don't do it. It is too answer be? Don't do it. It is too

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answer be? Don't do it. It is too tricky. You never know. The

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tricky. You never know. The tricky. You never know. The

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equation is so complicated. You equation is so complicated. You

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equation is so complicated. You equation is so complicated. You

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never know how it could back fire. never know how it could back fire.

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never know how it could back fire. never know how it could back fire.

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So, do you follow that advice or So, do you follow that advice or

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So, do you follow that advice or So, do you follow that advice or

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the example? I think not to do the example? I think not to do

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the example? I think not to do anything in haste is probably the

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anything in haste is probably the anything in haste is probably the

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lesson. Well, Vicky Pryce did not lesson. Well, Vicky Pryce did not

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lesson. Well, Vicky Pryce did not lesson. Well, Vicky Pryce did not

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do it in haste, she took her time. do it in haste, she took her time.

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do it in haste, she took her time. But it was interesting that Lady

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But it was interesting that Lady But it was interesting that Lady

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Moon was saying she wanted the Moon was saying she wanted the

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attention of the world. attention of the world.

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attention of the world. attention of the world.

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And that is what Vicky Pryce got. And that is what Vicky Pryce got.

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And that is what Vicky Pryce got. And that is what Vicky Pryce got.

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Were you surprised by that? I was not surprised.

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not surprised. not surprised.

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And you are incredibly proud of And you are incredibly proud of

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And you are incredibly proud of And you are incredibly proud of

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your other half, she has gone in at your other half, she has gone in at

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your other half, she has gone in at number three on the bestseller list

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I am. I am.

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I am. And now, Comic Relief's Big Chat

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And now, Comic Relief's Big Chat And now, Comic Relief's Big Chat

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And now, Comic Relief's Big Chat With Graham Norton is on now until

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With Graham Norton is on now until With Graham Norton is on now until

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1.00am. Richard is rushing off to 1.00am. Richard is rushing off to

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