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Are you happy with this one? It has been one of those nights! Welcome

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to The One Show with Chris Evans... And Alex Jones. Tonight, we are

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welcoming the victims of the big fish fight. In the blue corner, the

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EU. In the red corner, a man named Hugh. Guess he would won? He did! -

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Lovely, lovely. Horsemeat, big news story. Almost unbelievable.

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Astonishing. What other suspicions do you harbour when it comes to

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mass produced food? Well, what this shows is that the supermarkets just

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have not got it under control when it comes to sourcing. They spend a

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lot of time and money telling us that they know where everything

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comes from, that tracing it is important, but it comes on the back

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of a story that fish were being mislabelled, one species for

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another. There is clearly a lot of work to be done. How can you not

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know that your lasagne is 100% of something other than you are

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telling people? How can you not know that? You would think,

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wouldn't he? The answer is that they are buying it from someone

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else that is making it for them, and they don't have a full control

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over that third party. If they are starting to sneak stuff in, it gets

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lost. Did you have any horsemeat in your freezer you did not know

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about? No. We didn't think that you would. What do you think about the

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hypocrisy of meat-eaters? Either you are vegetarian or eat meat.

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Saying that you just don't eat that kind of meat, it's quite

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hypocritical? The question of whether or not we should consider

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eating horsemeat is not what is being debated. Let's be given food

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that is clearly labelled and know what is in it. You could make a

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case for eating horsemeat, if the horse was well looked after. That

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comes first and foremost, higher animal welfare. It is outside our

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cultural register, but I would not condemn it out of hand. What I

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would condemn is selling one kind of meat as another. We had a case

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where how products were being served in prison, they had Paul Le

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Guen them. Unacceptable. It's having the choice? Knowing what is

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in the food. Is it calories or horse power? The news today is that

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400,000 frozen lasagnes have been recalled. But there must be tens of

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thousands still in people's freezers. We are asking who has got

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the most potential horse in their fridge tonight. Pile-up your

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lasagne and take a picture. It's the great UK Frozen lasagne amnesty.

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Are you going to keep them, returned them, put them on eBay?

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What are you going to do? Lots of options. It's not often a seven-

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year-old managers to clean out his mum's bank account in minutes. But

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these days, all it takes is one little finger.

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Imagine if your child managed to spend more than �1,000 of your

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money in less than one hour, just by playing a video game. It is a

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scary thought, but it can happen. There was a time when the idea of

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playing a video games on your phone would have seemed like the stuff of

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science fiction. But with 39% of us now owning a smartphone, and 11% of

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UK households owning a tablet computer, downloading games from

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an' store is starting to become second nature. -- and app store.

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And many can be downloaded for free. But you do have to be careful.

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Because there are sometimes very It was one of these free apps, a

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game called Monster Story, that allowed seven-year-old George to

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run up a monster bill on his mum's iPad. It looked like a young

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children's game. I put my password in, handed him the iPad and he was

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quiet. It wasn't until the next morning when I locked into my e-

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mail, the first thing I noticed was 34 e mails, invoices for �34.99

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each time. Forgive my maths, how much was that? Somewhere in the

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region of over �1,000. �1,000?! felt sick. What was he doing?

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said, can you show me again, what did he do? Did you buy anything? He

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started to say, yes, I got cold, I bought some monsters. It dawned on

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me. When you went to your password, you have a 15 minute window before

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you asked for it again. That is when he was clicking, by gold, by

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gold. Did he know it was real money? No. I bet that was a

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surprise? How much problem did that cause? I had my mortgage going out

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of the account. I had the council tax bill. They bounced instantly.

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The extra features that you can buy during the games are called in app

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purposes. They are very common. They often appear within the game,

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allowing you to unlock special powers or gain extra wards. --

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Awards. It may not be here when you are playing, especially if you are

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a child, that they cost real money. So, is it really fair for a game

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aimed at children to include the facility to buy extra features for

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real money? I am here at the guys who represent the UK gaming

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industry to see if they think this is above board. Why to so many of

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them have these purchases? Making the game is a real craft, somebody

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has to pay for that scale. A isn't it's just about making money?

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of people enjoy playing games so much that they want extra content

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and they are willing to pay for it. It is a consumer choice. Is it fair

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to have these purchases in games that are targeted at children?

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industry takes its responsibility towards children very seriously.

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All devices have parental controls. On some, you can say no to any such

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purchases that your child might make. Luckily for Clare, Apple

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agreed to a fund the deal that George racked up, as a goodwill

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gesture. She has taken steps to make sure that he cannot do it

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again. I now have my restrictions in place a very tightly. He cannot

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buy anything. What do you think of the ability to rack up that amount

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of money in a children's game? shocked that it is legal. There is

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no kind of cap on it, there is no warning. This game is not based on

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skill, to make any progress. It is based on how much money you are

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prepared to spend. The fact it is aimed at children is what makes me

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Game over, indeed. Have any of your kids done anything similar? They

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have been reasonably sensible, up until now. The thing about kids and

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smart phones, they are as smart as the phones, as adults, we are not

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smart enough to use them. My one- year-old nephew can use my iPhone.

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Who called you on your phone when this happened? I was on a boat in

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the South Atlantic, making the new series of Hugh's Fish Fight. I got

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a call from the office. My partner told me that we had had the fire

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the night before. Absolutely devastating. I was halfway around

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the world and there was nothing I could do. They at is the River

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Cottage? That is our main cooking area, the demonstration thing where

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we render the cookery courses. year on, where are you at? We are

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well on the way we do rebuild. -- with the rebuilt. We only lost a

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couple of weeks of business. We created a tented site. We have read

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everything we do, full on, in the normal way from a fantastic sight.

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In a way, that is more fun? It has given us a whole new dimension.

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it a grease fire? They call it the perfect fire, don't they? We think

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it was started by an electric spark. But it was so hot that there was

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little left to show what caused it. You get the grill, you get some oil

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on the flames, it shoots up and the extractor fan pulls the flame

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through. Because that is covered in grease, 15 seconds, it goes up.

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Hugh is about to pick another fight with the British government. But

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he's not the only one. We I in a fish war with Iceland and the Faroe

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Islands. Sarah Mack has been to the front line.

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The UK fishing fleet catches more mackerel than any other species.

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But a bitter international disagreement over quotas has meant

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it losing its place on the list of sustainable fish. It's a decision

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with potentially huge consequences for both the fishing industry and

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consumers. Cheap, tasty, sustainable and very good for you.

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Until recently, mackerel was the ideal fish to eat regularly. But is

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it now off the menu? In the last few weeks, the Marine Conservation

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Society downgraded mackerel from its fish to eat list, saying it

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should now only be consumed occasionally. Two significant blows

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to the Scottish mackerel industry in recent times. The Marine

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stewardship Council have taken away their sustainable accreditation,

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the sustainable take, and yourselves have taken it off the

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fish to eat list. Why did you do that? Since 2009, too many are

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being taken out of the north-east Atlantic stock. A lot of the reason

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is that the stock has moved north and west into Icelandic waters and

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those parties are removing too much mackerel. How seriously is this

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going to affect the consumer? consumer can still eat mackerel.

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Just occasionally, we are advising. There was also a stock of

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accredited mackerel still available on the shells for some time to come.

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But the advice has angered some people, especially here in Scotland.

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This processing plant is one of the biggest in Peterhead. Bosses here

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are concerned. That's a devastating message, for us. We are

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disappointed, because it is no fault of our own that we are being

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affected by this crisis. Who is to blame? Iceland and the Faroe

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Islands. Because they are out of control in terms of fishing, it is

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putting Howard Dobbs and the public, able to eat the fish, in jeopardy.

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-- putting our jobs and the public in jeopardy. We are worried that

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jobs are going to be affected, and if it becomes unsustainable, if

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that happens, supermarkets decide they cannot sell it, what will

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happen is that we will lose market. The Faroe Islands and Iceland will

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not. Trade sanctions are now on the table. But A war war might backfire.

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Much of the Icelandic and Faroe Islands catch of other fish is

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actually landed and processed in Britain. It's vitally important to

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towns like this. North-east Atlantic mackerel is hardly the

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first fish to show worrying signs of overfishing. It has now joined

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the three-quarters of worldwide stocks that either declining or

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being fished beyond sustainable level. We have concerns with other

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stocks and still do. Some, such as haddock, still concerns about

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stocks of cod. We have a range of fish we advise people avoid. There

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is good news as well, many stocks are healthy such as North Sea

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herring and sardines. North Sea haddock is healthy. There are lots

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of fish still on the list to week. We would ask consumers to look at

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our good fish list. That must have made you furious? Very frustrating.

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A few years ago we were saying we should ask people to eat more

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mackerel. You were telling us! Exactly. And it is a solvable

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problem. It is a political problem. It's not that people eating too

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much, it's that the politicians cannot agree the quotas. This is

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the beginning of a campaign. Delia Smith said in the paper that she is

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retiring from television, she will go online because she is fed up

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with a lot of chefs on television. All this campaigning, get back in

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the kitchen and start cooking. How do you react? I began life as a

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journalist, really. I'm not really from the kitchen. I have never been

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a restaurant chef. Campaigning is what interested me. As long as...

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Delia Smith has done a wonderful job of educating the nation how to

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Cook. But there is more to food than how you put it together. There

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are consequences in how you shot and what you eat. That fascinates

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made. It's almost celebrity campaigners? I guess you are

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looking at one. You are on the trail a brand new campaign, that

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starts Thursday on Channel 4. it is Hugh's Fish Fight again. A

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brand new campaign, three completely new shows. What we are

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focusing on is the need for more marine protected areas. At the

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moment, just a tiny fraction of the sea around the UK is fully

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protected from all forms of fishing. Not very match is protected from

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the most damaging forms of fishing. We have made a bunch of films about

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this. Both about the UK and about marine conservation issues around

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the world. We can see you looking at a healthy sea bed? This is you,

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This is me diving. All the little indents on the

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seabed, they are done by scallops. Some are almost dinner plate sized.

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Where was that and tell us what you found around the corner? Well, that

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was in the Isle of Man. That's what a healthy seabed is meant to look

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like. I dived on a piece of ground which had been scallop dredged and

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there is nothing there for scallops. It is like a desert under the

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water? That's the only word you can think of. How long does it take for

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that to happen? Not long. It might take a year or two of regular

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dredging, but the main damage is done quickly and if it happens

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repeatedly that's what you are left with.

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And this is the dredger here. This is the destroyer as it were? Yes,

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that's the piece of kit that's used to dredge for scallops that does so

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much damage. It is so basic and horrible. There

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is millions of years of nature being wiped by away by a horrible

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piece of metal? We are not campaigning to ban scallop dredging.

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We want sensible zoning. Areas that are protected and what we found out

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in this film in the Isle of Man, they have got one of the best

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scallop fisheries in the UK because they protect certain areas and

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leave them off limits. It is like crop rotation? Yes.

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Hugh, good luck with the new campaign.

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Thank you very much. Hugh is the only celebrity chef.

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May we ask you to help us launch our next cook-off? Of course.

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Here is one of our fish people! APPLAUSE

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We are looking for the best chilli in the UK. We are. Will it be meat,

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veggy, and we want it to be unbeatable... And horse free.

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Tell us about your tips? Well, a couple of tips if you are making a

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good chilli, get a little bit of pork as well as the beef, not

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horse! And fresh spices if you can chop a

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fresh green chinly that has sweetness and aroma. This is one of

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recipes. You were too ill to make it. That's beautiful.

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One of the kids took the morning off to make it. Well done, Luky.

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you think your res your recipe is unbeatable, tell us why at

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[email protected]. Send us a picture of yourself by

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Wednesday, 13th February. The terms and conditions are on the website.

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A good good chilli corn con Carney is hard to beat. When it was

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launched in 2004, The Queen Mary 2 was the most expensive passenger

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liner built. Today I have been invited on board by the crew as

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they honour a man who played a huge role in the life of Cunard's luxury

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liners and there is a culinary treat lined up for him to help him

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relive his ocean going German chancellorries.

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Commodore Ron Warwick has captained this ship and The Queen Mary 2. His

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father Bill had been the first captain of the QE2 when it launched

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in 1969. My father was in command and he

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invited me aboard for lunch and I went on board this great, new ship.

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It was only in service a few months. I thought well, if you have got to

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go to sea, the QE2 is the ship to go on.

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Now, you had a very important guest the first time you took command of

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the QE2? Yes, I did indeed, that was Her Majesty the Queen and The

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Duke of Edinburgh. Was that a nerve-wracking

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experience? I didn't have time to think about it. My focus was on the

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ship and the safety of it and the dock operations when we came in to

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Southampton. Commodore Warwick was chief officer

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of the QE2 when it had to be converted into a troop ship for

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transporting British forces to the Falklands. We had been in a refit.

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We spent a vast amount of money updating and all of a sudden these

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chaps came aboard with metal cutters and cut bits away. It was,

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"What is happening to our ship? ". It took eight day to say con --

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days to convert the ship and that's the hardest hours I worked. Those

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eight days, we had to convert the rooms to accommodate the troops.

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They took the artwork off and the valuable paintings. They took

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things like caviar off which was unkind of them, I thought!

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While the troops on the QE2 may have missed out on luxuries, on its

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replacement, the QM 2, 3,000 paying passengers demand the highest

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standards. How different is it cooking on a

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liner as opposed to a high end restaurant off shore? If you look

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at where you are, you are based in one mini city or mini town and

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everything that you need is on board, but the logistics of getting

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the the items on board to make sure we have enough food.

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Because you can't just pop down to the shop.

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They are re-creating the menu from when the QM 2 first launched

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especially for Commodore Warwick, his wife and invited friends. You

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would always eat with the passengers? Most nights on the

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trance attic, except the first night. You would have different

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guests each dinnerpm. What sorts of guests? Lots of regular passengers.

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Sometimes you would get a message from a friend who had a friend

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coming. We have four courses, including

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duck, pheasant, lobster and loin of beef and this muse fondant -- --

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moose fondant. What sort of memories does this meal bring for

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you? The grandeur of it, really. To know that people are still

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enjoying this type of occasion. Yes.

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Sadly for me, my my cruise is over before we have left the docks side,

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but it has been great to be aboard for the tribute to Commodore

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That was one of the best TV shots of a a salt and pepper set.

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A lovely meal. Commodore Warwick is a lovely man.

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I love him to to bits. He might be catching! The QE2 was sold to Dubai,

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but there has been bids to bring her back? Yes. We want to talk

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about the QE2 London bid. There are a business consortium, they are

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investors and they want to bring her back to London and dock her by

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The O2. Could she be a hotel? yes. It would make sense being

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close to The O2. Go and have a fun night out.

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Back to the bid. Weddings. Entertainment. That's all

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great and interesting, but none of this is as important as Angellica

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Bell, she is having another one, everybody!

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APPLAUSE I am here to pro dust the --

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produce The One Show babies! Michael Douglas' cunning interview

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technique. Ah, seagulls, when I hear their call, I think of donkey

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rides, ice creams and sanny beaches -- sandy beaches, but I'm not at

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the seaside and I'm not Hague a paddle -- I'm not having a paddle

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in this. Today I'm enjoying the delights of a landfill site in

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Ipswich. And the brave souls who work here deal with all this

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horrible stuff we don't even want to think about. I have come to give

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them a treat. This is Steve and he works here in amongst all of this

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stuff. My main role is driving the bulldozer. Have you got CB radios

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and you talk to each other, "I just found a seagull.". Yes. We have got

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CBs. How much bigger will have hill get?

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Another two or three meters. And then what happens? We have to

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cap it off. And it rots away, does it? That's

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right. We take the gas out as well because landfill produces gas.

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What's the weirdest thing you found here then, Steve? We have had like

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a little cat or something come out of the bin.

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An alive cat? Yes. You never had your haircut here before?

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definitely not. Take a look. Excellent. Very good.

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He said excellent. It is not rubbish is it? Definitely not!

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You know those people who have picnics in a nice park and leave

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their rubbish everywhere, they should be forced to come and have a

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picnic up here, shouldn't they? The last time anybody worked it out, it

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was estimated across the UK a combined area the size of Warwick

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was given over to landfill, but we are becoming more aware of our

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rubbish problem. Karen is a busy mum who blogs about reducing

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household waste. Give us some tips. Choose the top five things that

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fill your bin and see if you can find alternatives to slim that down.

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My problem was food waste. So we reduced the portions. It is all

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about you know thinking about when you buy something, how much rubbish

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is this going to create? I always think how good is this going to

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taste? LAUGHTER

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We used to throw away a full typical average sized wheelie win

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every two weeks. We got down to about a carry bag's worth of

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rubbish every month. You are joking! I don't believe

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that! It took me by surprise.

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Take a look. My god that is brilliant. It really

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is. Thank you. There is a lot going on to try and

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reduce the amount of waste that goes into land fill. So many

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landfill sites in the UK now have recycling centres as well. I can't

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believe the size of it in here, it is massive. And just how fast they

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are working. It is like a sushi restaurant, but dirty!

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Danny works in the recycling plant. How many weeks worth of stuff is

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behind me? Four or five days worth. You are joking?

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Really? Yeah. Blimey! This has got to be sorted

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out? Yes, it goes through the machinery and into the cabins where

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the staff sort it by hand. The amount of material coming in is

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unbelievable. We recycling more material than we are sending to the

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landfill. That's a success story, is it?

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it is. I'm going to show you this and then

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you can put a hat on it. It will break my heart, but I will get over

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it! Take a look. How is that? fine.

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:28:21.:28:28.

It's fine. He said it was fine. Thank you, Michael. The UK frozen

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lasagne amnesty. She has eaten and she has gone to bed.

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Ian has given it to the spaniel. Lisa Smith's colleague Nick, here

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she is horsing around with her lunch!

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