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Hello. Welcome to the one show with Gabby Logan. And Matt Baker. After

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weeks of dreadful news and never ending election coverage, we guess

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that most of the us are crying out for serious escapism. It's great

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that this Sunday we'll be able to sit back, relax and enjoy adultery,

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disaster, scandal, heart break and jealous! Yes, Poldark's back! Here

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with us from the new series are Eleanor Tomlinson and Tom York. We

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know you as Demelza, but Tom you are the new brother in town. I am

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indeed. Do you have a sister in real life? No, a brother. It's nice to

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have a sister. Demelza is the sister you've always wanted. Well, I

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wouldn't say that. Bit terrifying. LAUGHTER

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It's been fantastic. Obviously, you come into a Big Show and you have

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someone like Eleanor to look after you and make you feel welcome, it's

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brilliant. I paid him to say that. You have the name of another famous

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person, Tom Yorke, from Radiohead, which you know, did cause a few

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people to be confused around here, actually. Have you ever had that in

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your life? I have actually. You look nothing like him, let's be honest.

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That's part of the thing. My first job out of drama school I went to

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Tel Aviv to film a series called Tyrant. When I got off the plane,

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there were people to collect me and take me and drive me to the hotel.

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They kept looking at me very strangely. I was like, is everything

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OK? They were like, you're Tom York yeah? Yeah, yeah. Sorry, we thought

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you'd look different. Sorry, I don't know what my agent sent you. I am

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that person. The Radiohead guy. Oh, no! I think there were a few

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disappointed people at that time. Not quite as musical. No, not at

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all. We're looking forward to talking all about Poldark. Despite

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the debate about the benefits or harm caused by e-cigarettes and

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vaping, it's no doubt it's a habit on the rise. With fewer people

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smoking, cigarette manufacturers are looking to get a slice of that

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market. Matt Allwright has been to see how their new responsible,

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health conscious outlook is all smoke and mirrors.

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For many, it's simply a way of giving up smoking. When I wake up in

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the morning, I don't feel like I've got ten ton of weight on my chest.

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First I got my sense of taste back. Then I no longer coughed in the

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mornings. Concerns have been raised about those who have a as part of a

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vole -- who vape as part of a whole new subculture. Many said they were

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attracted by what they feel is fun, glamour and excitement. All of that

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explains why vaping has become big business in the UK. It could be

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worth as much as ?5 billion by 2021. Business and vaping shops like this

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in Southampton has expanded tenfold in five years. Who's making the big

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money? In some cases the very people would sold you fags in the first

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place. This is the research and development market of British

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American tobacco, one of the big global suppliers of tobacco

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products. They're aiming to cash in on the rapidly expanding vaping

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market. Roll up, roll up. And we've been granted access to their inner

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sanctum to view the latest products. Marina is their R director. This

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is our most recent introduction. We launched pebble last December. It's

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a product that the colours, the shape and the rest of it is going to

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be more attractive to young people. We do not target young people at

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all. Neither in our product design nor in our communication. Kids

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cannot look at our commercial material on the internet and can not

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buy our products. I just worry if it doesn't take too long for kids to

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get the idea of that? It's a valid concern. We do a lot of work to

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monitor these potential risks. So far we see no evidence of it. Public

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health England says vaping is 95% than cigarettes. Many liquids still

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contain nicotine, which is addict of. Though the industry presents

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this as a healthier alternative, no-one knows what the long-term

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health effects could be. I can't help feeling we've been here before.

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Just look at these old cigarette ads for various brands from the 20s to

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the 50s. When tempted to over indulge, reach for a Lucky instead.

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Cigarettes will not only stop you being fat and blue, but look, your

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throat protection against irritation against cough. As your dentist, I

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would recommend Viceroys. Well it's a good thing you're not my dentist.

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Health fears have become health facts. In the UK smoking claims

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100,000 lives a year. Tobacco sales are falling. Vaping is an economic

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life line for the industry. But has it learned from past mistakes. In

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the heart of British American tobacco, scientists like Karl Vas

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are carrying out research into Tom Iity. They -- Tomicity. The robots

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do it. This pad has had 500 puffs from the vapour. Here's a pad from

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cigarette smoke which has had only ten puffs from it. There's a huge

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different between the colours. BAT now openly admits smoking tobacco is

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harmful. Marina shows me a floor chart highlighting the toxins in the

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smoke, but it doesn't stop them selling tobacco, with global profits

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of over 4. ?4.65 billion last year. This industry has lied to us in the

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past. And it's responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths. Why

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would you want to work here? I really believe in how impactful it

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will be to drive a change from the inside. This organisation has spent

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more than $1 billion in the last five years to test this alternative

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products. The commitment is there. The consumers will judge. I would

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ask you that you judge us by our actions. Last month, vaping

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regulations, including health warnings in smaller product sizes

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were introduced. Jonathan Greg thinks they're a good thing, unlike

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Jon Leyne blocker Dean Petit, the vaping biker. The restrictions we

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now have got is far too much. We have to regulate because this has

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advanced so quickly the science has lagged behind. Currently we know

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that vaping is possibly more productive than other nicotine

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replacement therapy for getting people off cigarettes, that it is

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less harmful that combustible tobacco. We don't know the

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consequences of long-term inhalation of substances that are non-toxic if

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you ingest them, but inhaling is a different ballpark. Clearly the jury

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is still out. Matt's here now. Do you get the

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sense that companies want to get out of selling cigarettes all together?

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No, I don't get that sense at all. From being there, they're still in

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the business of selling tobacco. This is a new market, growing. The

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number of smokers is declining. It's certainly something that very want

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to be part of. I can't believe that there's no results about the effects

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of vaping out yet. They've been around for ten years or so. Why is

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the jury still out? There's plenty of studies being carried out into

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it. But it's getting from less harmful, which there's a broad

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consensus for, it's 95% less harmful than smoking cigarettes, to safe. To

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get to that point where you can say it's safe. That's a big claim. A

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good significant any fire is there -- signifier is that there isn't a

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prescription e-cigarette you can use to quit smoking. No doctors are

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prepared to say try this, it's better. To get to that point, I mean

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it's only been widely available for ten years at most. We're still very

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early on the curve before we know the full evidence of long-term

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effects. On that basis, I'm guessing there's not much research on passive

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vaping and the effects of that. No, the key element of there is

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nicotine, the passive consumption of nicotine by people who might be

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around have aers. The Royal College of Physicians is saying from the

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work they've done and what they've seen, there's no substantial harm

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from passive consumption of nicotine through vaping. But they're saying

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and acknowledge that the fluids that are used, very hugely in the amount

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of nicotine they can contain, so people should be aware of that. We

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heard of the evidence of weaning people off cigarettes and onto

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vaping to try and help them quit. What is the evidence of that? Now we

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have 2. 9 million vapars in this country. Of those 52% of ex-smokers.

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Those are people who used to smoke and now vape exclusively.

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Interestingly, 45% of those vapers are smokers as well. Some of them

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will be looking to cut down the number of cigarettes they use by

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vaping at same time, which leaves a mystery 3%. Young people who maybe

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never smoked before, do either of you? Any vapers on the set? Aidan

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has a vape, yes, that's about it. Is it fragrant? Berry kiss is I think

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the one he uses. Other fragrances are available. Millions of us will

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be settling down on Sunday night for the first episode of the new series

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of poll taching. Let's have a recap of the romances so far. Ross Poldark

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returns from war to find his father dead, his family estate in ruins and

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his sweet heart Elizabeth enganked to his cousin. He meets Demelza and

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gives her a job as a kitchen maid. They fall in love and marry. Ross

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and old flame Elizabeth's feelings can't be ignored. They spend the

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night together. But she's married to George. Demelza and Poldark come to

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blows. In a rage Demelza leaves their marital home. They reconcile,

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Elizabeth is with child and things may be in disarray once again. Who's

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the daddy? To be continued. Very expensive that to make! Who is the

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daddy. Eleanor, hearing that there, quite an adventure your character

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has been on. What a marriage, by word. You're telling me. I mean, it

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must be a dream role for you to have gone through all of that. It's

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fantastic. I'm so lucky. It's a brilliant character and feel really

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blessed. I'm sure you get a lot of fan mail any way, but this series

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from what I've been reading and hearing, there could be quite a lot

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of shall we say juicier content or maybe people kind of wondering - I

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thought you were going to say hate mail! No, not at all. People might

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be judging your decisions. Yeah, I will be interested to see how the

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public react. Demelza is very strong and we pick the series up where we

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left off. They're in a very tricky spot. Ross and Demelza have a lot to

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work through. They do that because they love each other. It comes with

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its hurdles. We'll just have to see. That's part of its popularity. It's

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not this kind of rose tinted romance. There's a lot of struggle

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in it. That's what people love about them. They can relate to it. They

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argue with each other and disagree with each other. There are other

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women involved and it's really annoying for Demelza. I think that a

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lot of people can relate to that. It's a real relationship. There's

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ups and downs. Have you started to get the fan mail yet? Yes, actually!

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Which is bizarre. I mean sometimes they Ian Wright to me and say, oh,

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I'm a big fan of yours, your work in Poldark is fantastic. I'm like,

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where are they watching my work in Poldark. What about the accent?

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Yeah, I mean obviously you just want to do justice to the Cornish people

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and you don't want to upset anyone by not doing your home work. Are you

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worried about that? No, hopefully not. I'm pretty pleased. Maybe

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Eleanor can answer back. She's an expert. No, they've both worked

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really hard on it. You're there for a long time. When you come out of

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character, do you carry on with the accent after filming? No. No. There

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is another brother, Drake. He's played by an Australian actor. Yes,

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Harry. He does a great job. How does Harry get on with the accent. Very

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well. He's very good. We work very hard. We have brilliant dialect

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coaches on the show and it makes a big difference that they take the

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time with us. We just want to do it justice and everyone is keen to do

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that. Here you all are. We are going to look at the moment from this

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episode, the whole family around their dying father's bedside. Lord

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is merciful. And he shall guide ye home. I thank the Lord kindly. But I

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believe I know my own way. Samuel, Drake, tis for thee to lead the

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fallen souls of Cornwall. Aye father, we'll make it our mission.

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APPLAUSE Sounds good. Have you got used to

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seeing yourself in Poldark yet? I'm getting used to it. It's one of

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those things, watching yourself doing anything. Your families are

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fans. Yeah, they are. It's a wonderful thing as an actor if you

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audition for something if your parents are fans and then to get the

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part. I hope you don't ruin it for them! I'm joking!

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LAUGHTER Is your mum just saying, "Keep your

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top on, son." Yeah, no-one wants to compete with Aidan. That's the idea.

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Aidan says he's not taking his top off any more. That's not a spoiler.

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Does that feel like there's pressure on you guys, the two new brothers?

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You've seen Sam there. He's not actually a big top off type of

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character. He's very devout and serious guy. No, I don't think. So

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Eleanor, as far as the music is concerned, this is kind of taking

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you into a new tangent, has it not? This world of folk music. What's

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happening? Yeah, Ann Dudley the amazing composer of the show is

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going to be collaborating with me on a folk album. That's really

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exciting. Yeah, that's all I can say about it right now. Because we've

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yet to do it. You're singing though, yeah? That's the idea? Yeah. You had

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a singing background? No, not at all. My mum is a professional singer

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as is my brother. No, this is new for me. Just pushing myself. Does

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she sing on set? All the time. We can't stop her sing. Everyone has to

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say, Eleanor, be quiet. We're trying to film. Good luck with that. Good

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luck with that and come back with your album. The music in Poldark is

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quite something. It has two match the incredible scenery.

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Poldark starts this Sunday night at 9pm on BBC One.

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As actors you'll know about the importance of assuming

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an air of confidence when auditioning for roles.

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So our Alex has been to explore the latest psychological phenomenon

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from America called Power Posing to see if it can make us

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Sometimes it's hard to get yourself motivated in life. Leaving you

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feeling powerless. You wish you could change into somebody more

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dynamic. Well, you can! All you have to do is strike a pose! I'm not

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having some kind of midlife crisis, I'm practising the latest

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psychological phenomena from America, it is called Power Posing,

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by making ourselves bigger and more powerful we can have the confidence

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of a superhero. Harvard psychologist's talk on the subject

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has been viewed over 14 million times. When you pretend to be

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powerful you're more likely to feel powerful. I'm hitting the streets to

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try to persuade some people to give it a go. Hands on your hips. This is

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a public street! Are you feeling more confident? When! When! And

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mixed reaction, unsurprisingly. In my everyday secret identity clothes,

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I am eating Doctor Christian Jarrett at the British psychological Society

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to find out more. Would it be OK if I called to Professor mind storm? To

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you, Doctor Jared! OK... Why has Power Posing become popular? We all

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experience self-doubt at some time and Power Posing gives us a quick

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way to give us a confidence boost before a big challenge like an

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interview. It seems simplistic that if you just do that you will be more

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confident and feel better about yourself? It fits in with an

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important psychological principle, what is going on in our bodies

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affects our emotions. It may not work for anybody, for some it might

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be a placebo. We put this to the test with some viewers. Kira

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realised she lacked confidence when she moved to London. That is when it

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became obvious. David is a charity fundraiser. If this lets me give

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speeches, only to feel good about myself. Brooke once more confidence

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at work. It seems watched too simple to be true! They have been putting

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Power Posing into practice, keeping us up-to-date with their video

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diaries. I had a chorus with work like this. It did make a difference.

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It made me feel more empowered. I was in a meeting the other day and I

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found myself sitting upright and opening my shoulders. It made me

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feel as if I had my presence. I did some Power Posing before I went in

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and I think I did very well. Before the three guinea pigs started, they

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did a questionnaire asking if they agreed or disagreed with various

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statements about themselves, which gave them a confidence score out of

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45, none two weeks later they repeat the test. First up it is Kira. The

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confidence score before the Power Posing was 20.

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Big Brother: Some of 45. -- from a maximum of 45. And now it is 21, an

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extra point. Not very super. You have to do more of it to feel the

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benefits. Will you continue this? I did feel better on a day-to-day

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basis. Next it is David's turn. My score has by six points. That's more

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like it! Obviously Power Posing works! How did Superman Brooke to?

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UK with 28. 36. -- you came in. She did that -- not it out of the park.

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I had my secret weapon, Eleanor was giving me an extra lift and I felt

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more positive having done this. What have we learned from our fun

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experiment? Some others could be the placebo effect, having the benefit

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because we think it is going to be beneficial. Placebo or not, our

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confidence course have risen but there is one thing they should

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remember with great power comes great responsibility. I must fly!

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Duty calls! There is something in it? Lots of

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people will be trying! Demelza is such a strong character, doesn't rub

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off on your personality? I think it has done. I would like to be like

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her. I think she is cool. Yes. Very strong woman. We touched on the

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performance aspect of your family. And your dog has certainly got in on

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the act. This is Bert! He has beautiful, you like to dress him up?

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Yes... We have some lovely shots of him in things, obviously Poldark has

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been an influence! That is going quite far. They say dogs look like

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their owners! Absolutely gorgeous! We want to try and see if Tom can

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guess which famous character but is. This will be fun! -- famous

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character Bert is. He was dreaming

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of a white Christmas. I should definitely know this! We

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will put you out of your misery. Bing Crosby! Of course it is! Road

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to Morocco! I don't hold out much hope for the next one! Bert, looking

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happy. Beautiful hat. Audrey Hepburn played this

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character. My fair Lady?

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APPLAUSE Very good! Has he not been an extra

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yet on Poldark? I'm afraid not, he is much too busy!

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These 300,000-year-old skulls of five early humans have recently

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been found in North Africa suggesting Homo sapiens emerged

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at least 100,000 years earlier than previously believed.

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But, as Philip Mould discovers, it can sometimes be dangerous

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I've spent my life casting a critical eye over the authenticity

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of paintings and sculptures because when it comes to art, not everything

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is always as it appears. But when you come to a temple of science,

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like this, you instinctively feel you are on safe ground. After all, a

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fossil is solid rock dog out of the ground, exactly as it is. Or so we

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are led to believe. Good fossils also be a victim of fakery? Today, I

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will find out. I am teaming up with Dean, the Sherlock Holmes of the

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fossil world who has investigated many fake fossils. This one, part of

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it was embedded in a different rock type. It was fake, made from non-2

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separate individuals. Can we find more fakes? We have come to the

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National Museum in Wales to look at the price collection of

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ichthyosaurs, animals that lived during the time of the dinosaurs.

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Dean knows this display very well and wants to show me something. This

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one is dubious, this girl looks lovely. But... -- the skull. There

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are some slight discolouring. And that indicates that this snout has

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been reconstructed. The nose was missing so the museum recreated one

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from plaster to assure the public how it would look if complete. You

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can see how well it has been done, hardly any difference. If this was a

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portrait by Gainsborough and his nose was added by another hand I

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would be worried, not the real thing. It looks like fakery. The

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difference is that there has been no intention to deceive for profit.

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This has been reconstructed for display purposes, definitely not

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fake. It is more conjugated than I thought, fossils could be restored

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but that does not necessarily make them fakes. The museum has bravely

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given us privileged access to the storeroom to see if we can discover

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anything they are not aware of. For the Victorians, fossils provided

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like art and worth more if complete so sometimes teachers were sneakily

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added. It was fossils for art's sake rather than science. It must have

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been a nightmare for subsequent scientists. That is why I get called

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into museums to check authenticity. This one looks a little bit

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different, quite tiny and it has some features suggesting it belongs

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to a species... There is only one other specimen of it known from

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records. This could be super rare. This could be exciting! We have to

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prove that this is real? In actual fact, if you take a closer look,

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that portion of bone is lighter than this and when we look at these tail

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vertebrae, they are much larger than on the adjacent area, I wonder if

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that has been reconstructed. The stakes are really high, this could

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be an important find or just fake. So giving us full 3D CT scan. The

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scan reveals from the bottom up as supporting frame. Packing sand. The

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rock was finding and finally the fossil itself. Immediately Dean

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spots something strange, it is not just one piece of rock. One, two,

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three blocks making of this fossil. Signs fake but it is not that

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simple. They seem to mind up, this one with the tail, lining up with

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the rest of the tail and these are the ribs going to the back of the

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skull. If and pieces of rock are carefully put back together with

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plaster. What is key is the bones. I live from the same individual or

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not? I can see with the size of the bones in the plaster that they match

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those in the rock. I think we're looking at the specimen that is

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completely authentic. Here we have a result. We have proved this to be a

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genuine specimen of a very rare ichthyosaur, an important addition

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to the fossil record. Thank you, Philip.

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