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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

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Tonight we are joined by a terribly interesting fellow. He has won a

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pile of awards, so he is clearly clever. And as he is the Lord of

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West Stafford, he is a classy fella. The 80s Julian Fellowes. We got

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there in the end. Your whole new role has been to adapt

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Shakespeare's play, Romeo and Juliet, for the big screen. Romeo

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meets Juliet, he falls in love with her and asks her to marry him

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within minutes and it is almost like your story. To get it is true

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I met my wife Emma and I instantly knew she was the one I was going to

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marry. Why? It is my only psychic moment in my lifetime of being as

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psychic as a door. A thing went off in my brain and 20 minutes later I

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did propose. That is only because it took me 90 minutes to get up the

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nerve. I looked at her and I knew it was her. She did not think I was

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though one, she thought I was mad. I have been waiting two-and-a-half

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years! It is recognition at first sight. You recognise your

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lifetime's partner. If someone is making an equation between us and

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Romeo and Juliet, you know that we are not identical. How do you ask

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someone to marry you after just 20 minutes? Did you get down on one

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knee? I think I said something like, it will you marry me? Just a matter

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of fact. There is no point in not cut into the chase. She would not

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even give me her telephone number. Playing hard to get. She wanted to

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even give me her telephone number. get out of the room. We will be

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talking to Julian about his new adaptation of Romeo and Juliet

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later. And Downton Abbey as well. First, Tony Livesey meets a two

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young adults with autism whose lives have been transformed by

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having the opportunity to work. It is bright and early on Monday and

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having the opportunity to work. It 17 year old Zaid is getting ready

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for work. Getting ready for work in the morning is something many of a

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struggle with, but Zaid has an added difficulty, he is autistic.

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It is incredible that he has a job. 700,000 people in the UK have

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autism and a staggering 85% are out of work. Before he started his job,

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he had never been out on his own and relied on his parents to take

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him everywhere. Hello, we are off to work. How are we going to get

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there? On the bus. What time does it come? It will come around eight.

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You carry on eating. Before he got this job, how was his life? Is it

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was quite tough. He feels he can do a lot more than this and socialise

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as well. It is not only the job, he goes two different clubs now and it

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has improved his independence. Because Zaid's brain is different

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he needed help to get to work and was taught to memorise landmarks.

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The programme is also responsible for finding him his job at

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Nottingham City Hospital. What have you got on today? First I am going

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to sort out the files. Is it easy? It is easy, but all the files get

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mixed up and it is annoying. People do not put them back in order. His

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condition means he gets frustrated when things are not in order and he

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likes consistency. He works in the outpatients Administration

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Department, sorting out the files. Andy is one of the project leaders

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and he works closely with Zaid during the internship. What issues

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do you have dealing with somebody like Zaid? It is not particularly

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his issues, it is more around employers adapting to the needs

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that he requires in the job. He is very good with figures and numbers.

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If we can understand his skills, we can better place him. Her did you

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feel when you first started? I felt more responsible. Now I am getting

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really good at this. A as well as work experience, at the project

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gives interns lessons in how to cope with their conditions. It is

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not in Zaid's nature to join in the office chit-chat. It would not

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occur to his brain to do that. But office chit-chat. It would not

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with the help of Joanne, that hopefully it will change. Four

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years ago the Government passed the autism Act. However, there are

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still only a handful of schemes like this across the country. The

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project in Nottingham started 18 months ago and one of the success

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stories is Ryan. He has dyslexia and Asperger's syndrome. After

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completing his internship, he got a job at the hospital. I never

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thought I would be fit for this kind of role. I thought I would be

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back stage IT. But they have put me on frontline support and that

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shocked me. I had that in me to do it. What is it like having him

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around in the office? He has got a massive passion for IT. He came in

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with more understanding of I T than anybody expected. I believe that is

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the printer. That has helped him get to where he is now. So I was

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all over the place before the project came in. With Ryan and Zaid

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both at the hospital they can share their experiences. I make eye

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contact a lot more that I did at the start. I did it at first in

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ten-second bursts. As time has gone on, that has got a lot better. What

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would you say to Zaid? Get to know people and talk to as many people

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as you can. It is good advice. A It is good advice. His it all going

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in? It is going in the straight to my memory. I find myself at the

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centre of a genuine good-news story today. Zaid is getting out and

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about for the first time in his life, Ryan is interacting with his

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workmates and they have organised his 18th birthday party. These

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young people have not just found work, they are finding their places

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in the world as well. And good luck to Zaid with his new

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job. We need your help. Do you or your partner run a local shop? It

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might have been in your family for generations or a business you set

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up yourself. Are you open all hours like Arkwright and Granville. You

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did not do the impression. He did in the rehearsals. Go to our e-mail

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address and let us know. The adaptation of Romeo and Juliet. We

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so thoroughly enjoyed it. It is very accessible and you have

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changed a bit. But it is a weight on somebody's shoulders to adapt

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Shakespeare's work. You cannot think in those terms or you never

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leave your bed. We had a strong agenda. We wanted to make a new

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version for this generation that was very romantic and was shot in

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Italy against wonderful castles and palaces and so on, with wonderful

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costumes. There have been good versions, particularly Baz

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Luhrman's 1. That was the Last versions, particularly Baz

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Romantic one and we felt it was time somebody else did that. Beyond

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that we wanted it to reach over its the scholar level and bring the

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story to people who would not necessarily think they would enjoy

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Shakespeare. They would think it was OK at school, or whatever.

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There have been people saying, you must not a fiddle with it. But if

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we had made the fall three-and-a- half hour original play, we would

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not have got to them and that is what we are trying to do. It is

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still 80% Shakespeare. We have tried to keep in all the memorable

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speeches and phrases and exchanges all the way through. Nevertheless,

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none of it is opaque. Every part of the story is accessible and

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understandable. It is also quite relentless. We have taken a three-

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and-a-half hour play and it is in 90 minutes. This young pair of

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lovers are caught up in this thing and they cannot pull out, they

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hurtle towards their doom. It is almost as if it is on a stage in

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parts where you have got people coming on. Let's put your words

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into pictures. Never was a story more mournful than theirs, of

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Juliet and Romeo. I never saw a True Beauty Until this night. It is

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Romeo, the only son of our great enemy. Come battle with me, boy.

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Take this and drink until the last drop and there will be no sign of

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life. It is beautifully filmed. You have studied Romeo and Juliet at

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Cambridge. Did you know exactly what you wanted to do with it? I am

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thrilled with the movie, but I went through a very good school and I

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studied literature at Cambridge, but not everyone has done that.

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There are plenty of intelligent men and women out there who have not

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been given that equipment. I feel it is a shame to cheat them of the

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pleasure of Shakespeare's reverse it is a shame to cheat them of the

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by befuddling them. Lyndsay Johns spoke out in the Conservative Party

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conference last week and said there was too much dumbing-down of

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Shakespeare. Is it not better to entice a new audience to understand

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it? I do not want to sound as if he does not have the right to his

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opinion, because he does. Shakespeare scholars will be

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shocked we have tampered with anything. I believe people have a

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right to see it and enjoy it. The one thing I do not understand his

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right to see it and enjoy it. The or less since

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You know the ending, but you are still crying. The whole love of

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Romeo and the surrogate father role in the lives of the friar is all

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Shakespeare, but the actor has put that story into it, which makes it

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Shakespeare, but the actor has put very moving at the end and adds

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another layer to it. It is in cinemas from next Friday. So some

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of the world's most distinctive and controversial airports, train

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stations and skyscrapers have been designed by Lord Richard Rogers.

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Arthur Smith has been to meet the man who is it in his 85th here and

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is still coming out with jaw- dropping architecture.

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Richard Rogers, Lord Rogers, has just had his 80th birthday and he is

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still hard at work, proving again and again that he is one of the most

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influential architects in the world. Some iconic work, the millennium

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Dome, Lloyds in the city, terminal Some iconic work, the millennium

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five at Heathrow. He is a campaigner, too. Look at this, a

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low-cost, flat pack house you can put up in 48 hours, an idea for

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tackling the current housing shortage. And the Royal Academy are

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putting on a special exhibition to celebrate his birthday. Today he is

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showing his wife around. She is an award-winning, too, with a Michelin

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starred restaurant. I don't think one realises what 1's age is. People

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say, when are you going to retire but I say, I enjoy what I do. There

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is one thing he says that is more important than designing. Passionate

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about a large family, 12 grandchildren, five sons and so on.

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That keeps me young and I have a very young wife, that keeps me

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young! Richard did not do well at school, the teachers thought him

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stupid. Years later he found out the problem was severe dyslexia. Now I

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had something that I could hang my hat on, it did not make any

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difference but it was good to know what it was called. It might explain

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this report, he lacks the equipment to translate feelings into sound

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building, his designs will continue to suffer while his drawing is so

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bad. I have a team of people who can do things like Ike -- that I can't

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do, like spell. Lord Rogers' first landmark was the Pompidou Centre in

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Paris in the 1970s. It wears its insides, like escalators and pipes,

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on the outside. It was radical, you love it or you loathe it. When the

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building was completed, I remember sheltering on a rainy day. A woman

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said, do you want to come under my umbrella? I said, thank you. She

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said, what do you think of this building? Stupidly, I said I am the

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architect and she hit me on the head with the umbrella. Among his regrets

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architect and she hit me on the head is the number of commissions he lost

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after the Prince of Wales called them carbuncles. I think all great

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architecture and all great art is modern in its time. Christopher Wren

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spent 40 years building Saint Pauls and the buildings kept on being

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turned down. He got so fed up with the last one and he was in his 70s,

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he built a fence so that nobody could see it until it was built.

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This is nothing new and Christopher Wren was modern in his times. How

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does he keep going? We stop, we are really good at stopping. We both

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work really hard but we know when to stop. We have been in Italy and

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France and Greece, we stop and come back and can't wait to start working

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again. He looks pretty fit. He is really fit, he walks come he swims

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again. He looks pretty fit. He is comedy bikes to the office every

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day, he bikes everywhere -- he swims, he bikes. Lord Rogers has

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made and continues to make his distinctive mark on Britain. This is

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Lloyds, again hated at first but now at the heart of the city. And listed

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grade one, an accolade he shares with the works of Christopher Wren.

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Over the road, Lord Rogers' latest baby, the Leadenhall building. It

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has already been nicknamed the cheese grater because of its wedge

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shape. And around it, a hoarding, maybe not unlike the one that

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Christopher Wren put around Saint polls. 80 years old -- around St

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Paul's. 80 years old, he remains focused on the bigger picture. As

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the ancient ode says, I hope to leave the city more beautiful than I

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arrive. That is at the heart of what I hope to do. Just as well he is

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still working with 12 grandchildren! It is not just Lord Rogers who has

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saved negative reviews. -- who has received. Absolutely not, most of

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our famous buildings have been savagely received. Take the Eiffel

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Tower, built in 1889 as a celebration, a commemoration of the

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French Revolution. Above 900 feet, it was the tallest structure in the

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world. And people reacted with horror. Local residents took out

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lawsuits against Gustave Eiffel, because they thought it was going to

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topple over or attract lightning. It has been hit by lightning, to be

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fair. A whole group of famous musicians got together to announce

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it a useless and monstrous tower. Arguably he happy last laugh because

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it attracts over a year. I don't look at it and think it is

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beautiful. I am impressed by it. I love the Eiffel Tower but you have

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to remember that the area is entirely dominated by the Eiffel

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Tower. You can imagine if you lived in Belgrave Square and somebody put

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the Eiffel Tower in the middle, you would be a bit ratty. What about

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Barcelona? The Sagrada Familia is would be a bit ratty. What about

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often called Gaudi's church but he was actually the second architect to

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work on it. Picasso absolutely hated it. George Ola said it was one of

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the most hideous buildings in the world and suggested it should have

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been blown up in the Spanish civil war -- George Orwell said. We should

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bear in mind it is still not finished, it should be finished in

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bear in mind it is still not 2026 in time for the Saint Nery of

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Gaudi's death. I always remember somebody said, lie heavy on him and

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Gaudi's death. I always remember earth for he laid many a heavy load

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on the. I don't think anyone gets away scot free. Certainly not the

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National Theatre watch was built in 1976, which still raises blood

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pressure. They made a mistake at the time in thinking concrete had life

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in a building material, it had no life, it doesn't mature into

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anything. It is built of dirty old concrete. Who would have thought it?

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Thank you. Next night, Mike Dilger is on the hunt for Britain's biggest

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fish. Instead of packing his fishing rod and tackle, he packs one of

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these and a pan scourer. The Isle of Man is a hotspot for the

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largest fish to visit British waters. Weighing up to eight tonnes

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and as much as ten metres in length, the basking shark can reach the size

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and weight of a double-decker bus. Armed with its window cleaning --

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this window cleaning pole and a pan scourer, I am going to be helping

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marine biologists with their research work into this endangered

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and often misunderstood shark. I am off out onto the Irish Sea with

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members of the Manx basking shark watch. Basking sharks have been in

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long-term decline so finding out population levels is essential. Our

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best guess, looking at genetic data, is that there are between 6000 and

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8000 left worldwide and that is all. We are trying to find out as much as

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we can scientifically about the animal. If you don't know what you

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have got, you don't know what you will lose, you don't know how

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precious this is. We are tagging them, doing individual passports for

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individual animals. Basking shark passports, that sounds intriguing.

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It is so we can identify the individual animal again. They start

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by taking photographs of dorsal fins to recognise individual animals, but

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they are also collecting DNA samples. They do that in a bizarre

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way. Remember the window cleaning pole and pan scourer? This is a

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vital tool for the next stage of the basking shark's passport. You are

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going to have to explain. Some years ago, a colleague in Ireland was

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close to a basking shark and the tail caught the boat. He noticed

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this black slime on one of the ropes. Being a clever guy coming he

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scraped it hampered it in a jar and sent it to the University. Sometime

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later they discover that this had DNA in it. The boat is allowed to

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pass close to the sharks as part of a scientific license. Even though

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the sharks travel at three miles an hour, getting alongside them is

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tricky as they are constantly feeding on the moving plankton, so

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it is anyone's guess where they will appear. There it goes, 200 metres

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away. Oh! There are two there, look at the size of that!

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Just seeing one basking shark is marvellous but two together is

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Just seeing one basking shark is pretty amazing. Look at that! Oh!

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Now it is down to me to see if I can get a DNA sample from at least one

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of them. Just missed. If the huge tail flips

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out of the water, I could be swept off the boat. Don't go down, don't

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go down. I think I have got a swab. I got DNA! Thank you very much! Not

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a huge amount, but I got some! See that slime on there, that is DNA

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from a basking shark which I have just managed to get. Absolutely

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chuffed to bits. These hard-won samples are sent to

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the University of Aberdeen for analysis, in the hope it is going to

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give Jackie further information about these individuals. We are

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hoping to find out whether our sharks that we have got here are the

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same as the ones in north-west Scotland and Ireland and France, or

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whether they are slightly different. Early results back are showing that

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it looks like these basking sharks are distinctly different to others

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found around the Irish Sea, and they could be returning to this spot year

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after year. I never knew that taking DNA samples of basking sharks could

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be so exciting. Let's hope these passports continue to ensure that

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these gentle giants graced the seas around the Isle of Man the

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generations to come. I would have loved to have done

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that. It was fantastic, congratulations. Onto Downton...

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People were up in arms on Sunday because one of the most favourite

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characters, Anna, was assaulted. Quite a dark storyline. Of course it

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is dark and it is very serious. It is more reflective when you love the

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character who is attacked. I feel it is legitimate within the Downton

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way, you don't see much but what we examine are the results of this

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attack and that is an's story for the rest of the series. A great cast

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and a great choice. A very attractive, nice man. I wasn't going

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to say that at it does help. It makes the danger clearer. You think

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you are going to be able to identify someone who will attack you, but of

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course you are not. The show is a global success, especially in the US

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where they are eagerly awaiting the next series. Did you know there is

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actually a whole course that you can do at a college in America, all

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about Downton Abbey? Are you serious? Camden County College in

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New Jersey has launched a new course, it is called Downton Abbey:

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Life In A Country House. Why haven't I been given an honorary degree? You

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can ask that question because the course director, Professor Ellen

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Hernandez says they have such a good response with approximately 60

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people signing up, it is more successful than ever, she joins us

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live from New Jersey. I am so excited. We know that the course has

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gone incredibly well but there are a few questions that your students

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need answered. Yes, hello. Hello, Julien. I am here with some of my

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students. The class is going great. We had some questions that came up

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and I would like to pose them. I would like to ask, within a house

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like Downton Abbey, what would be the difference between a cook and a

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chef, and why different titles? A chef would be male in those days.

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Some houses did have chefs, but not all of them. Some houses had chefs

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and under chefs. When you are writing a show like Downton Abbey,

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you have to limit the number of people you are trying to service in

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a narrative sense. There would have been six or eight footmen but we

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couldn't find stuff for eight, so we have limited it to two and we have

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one cook. Let us squeeze in one more question, please. We wanted to know

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if it was purposeful for you to make the two conniving servants, Thomas

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and O'Brien, smokers? No, I think they made them smokers. I just made

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them nasty. There is no link between conniving and smoking? We will have

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to leave the transatlantic lecture. All the best, thanks for joining us.

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Thank you to Julien Fellowes, Romeo All the best, thanks for joining us.

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and Juliet is out on Friday. Tomorrow, Helen Fielding joins us

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along with Graham Norton. CU just before 7:00pm.

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