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Hello, and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

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And Alex Jones. Now, we've had Dragons from the Den on the One

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Show before. But there's one we've never, ever

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been able to catch - until now. And we've struck a good deal. He's

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offered to give us all his attention for at least 25% of the

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show. It's Peter Jones. APPLAUSE

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How are you doing? Nice to see you. Thank you for having me on.

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Lots of other Dragons have fallen by the wayside, but you and Duncan

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Bannatyne are the only ones who have lasted all nine series, but

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you two haven't always seen eye to eye? No, we did not. I think we

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detested each other. Why? I don't know. I think, firstly, we were new

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to TV. I was. He was an actor as well by trade, and I think clearly

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two quite driven individuals with egos - I think it was a car crash

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waiting to happen, and we made it happen many times, but now I must

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say he's mellowed. He's mellowed! He's got his bus pass, and I think

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he's a really lovely guy. Is it right he is considerably richer

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than you? Well, that's what he tells me. I'm sure he is no. He's

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lovely, Duncan. I love him. Sir Duncan I'm sure. Very soon. You are

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fussy about how people dress. You're looking smart tonight, but

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you're very fussy that they put you in the correct business attire.

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am, because whatever environment in I think you should match the

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environment you're going to. If you go into a bank and ask for �100,000,

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if you go in ripped jeans and a T- shirt, you're up against it, but if

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you're on TV, you would look ridiculous... To be fair, that tie

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matches our sofa absolutely brilliant. You have dressed

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correctly. More from Peter about his new drama where he searches for

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the secret for making a million. Peter might be good at growing a

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business, but it's a different type of growth our resident tree hugger

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Lucy Siegle is interested in. She has been to see how a mammoth

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tree planting project taking place today, echoes one that took place

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74 years ago. An old proverb says he who plants a

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tree loves others besides himself. In 1937, the nation took this quote

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to its heart, and thousands of communities planted trees in

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celebration of the coronation of This Royal record, which was

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rediscovered just four months ago, has now been made available online,

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and it recalls the history of thousands of trees planted 75 years

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ago. Patricia was just ten when she planted one of those trees outside

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the grounds of her school in Wiltshire.

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So can you remember what it was like to plant that tree? Yes, I do

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remember. Planted the trees and the crocuses and daffodils. I remember

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thinking how beautiful they were once they blossomed and grew. It

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showed me how beautiful things could be. I hadn't noticed things

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like trees because they hadn't been a big part of my life. Does it feel

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nice to you knowing that there is going to be a whole other raft of

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children doing what you did, carrying on this tradition? It's

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nice to know children will be coming on and doing the same sort

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of things. Another proverb states the best time to plant a tree was

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20 years ago, the second best is now.

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Majestically, given all our proverbs about trees this country

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is actually one of the least wooded in the whole of Europe. The Woodlan

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Trust wants to change this, and for the Queen's Diamond Jub Lee,

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they're hoping to plant six million trees across the country. We're

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aiming to have diamond woods planted. 31 of those are already in

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place. We have 20,000 free tree packs to give away the schools and

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community groups. We're hoping many people will plant trees in their

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gardens. What would make somebody want to plant a tree without being

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cephalic? What do you get from it? You connect with the world in a

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very special way. The tree you plant will help give us oxygen,

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help to reduce flooding. It will make you feel better looking at it,

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and a tree can add value to your property. In Wiltshire at the same

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Neston school where Patricia planted her tree 75 years ago new

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saplings are taking root. Any advice you want to give to this

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new team of tree planters? Just that they don't forget what they

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have done and that it's important to them. What does it feel like to

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be planting this tree, the first one? I think it feels great because

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we're starting off planting six million trees, and we're the first

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school to do it. I think it will be amazing to actually see the plant

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I've actually put in the ground. Are you going to come back and keep

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visiting this tree? Yeah, when I am old, my kids will come to this

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school. That's the sort of commitment I'm looking for. That's

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good. Good job there.

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Lucy is here, of course, but first, Peter, your tree-planting skills,

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how are they? They're not very good. Tara is the one at home that does

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the tree planting. We were just talking a second ago off camera. I

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must admit I have a place that's big enough to plant trees. I have

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just said, I'm going to start planting trees. Very good. Sign up.

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I am in. This is the year to do it - next year... If others want to be

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involved as well, how do others get involved? Everybody can get

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involved, so the Woodland Trust is leading this initiative to plant.

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They want to plant diamond woods, jubilee woods all over the country.

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I said, I have a small garden. They have said no, excuses. You can

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plant a tree in a pot. They want to get six million trees planted

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across the UK. You can plant loads in your garden because it's so big.

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I can plant one in a pot. You can get all the information at our

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website and what pack you need. You need to start planting from

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November - the tree season runs, so from next year, you can order a

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community pack if you want to plant as a community - from February or

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in November. So you plant at the right time, and make sure that you

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get a tree that is appropriate to your circumstances, so don't plant

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an oak in a small garden because it's not the right place. No. You

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have a window boxed a a few acres, you can go for it. Exactly. As far

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as getting the hands on the Royal records are concerned, to see if a

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tree was plant near you in 1939, is that possible? Yes, they're all

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online, digitally uploaded. I actually sat with the book - I am

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so sad - and looked up some trees in my local area. It's amazing. Now

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I look at them like completely differently. They're like celebrity

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trees. This time next time around when you plant your tree, it will

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also go online and will be put in another Royal book which will be

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presented to the Queen again so future generations will be able to

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see... It's like a tree spotter. is. Tree spotters are in!

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people could potentially walk past your tree in 800 years' time.

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A dragon tree! If it lasts that long, it's doing well.

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It seems fitting that Sir Jimmy Saville, a man who lived such an

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eccentric life, should also have an extraordinary send off. And that's

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certainly what he's getting this week. Today there was a funeral

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service for him at St Anne's Catholic Cathedral in Leeds.

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Followed a so-called lying in state in which thousands of people came

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to pay their last respects. Alex Riley - a true Savile fan - was

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amongst them. Growing up Sir Jimmy Savile was a massive part of my

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Saturday night TV entertainment. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome

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indeed to another edition of Jim'll Fix It. I remember his outrageous

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outfits on Top of the Pops, him telling us to clunk, click every

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trip and on Jim'll Fix It where like a modern-day Father Christmas,

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he made the dreams of children come true... Now, then, now, then.

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at the Queen's Hotel in Leeds in a manner you would normally associate

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with a Prime Minister or royalty, Jimmy Savile is lying in state in a

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golden coffin so his friends and fans can pay their final respects.

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What was it like when you went into the room where his coffin was?

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Beautiful. How would you sum up Jimmy Savile? What was he to you?

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Kind and friendly. He is a bit of a legend. He was flash in life. Now

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he's being flash in death. sendoff like that - fantastic.

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were one of Jimmy's closest friends. I was, yes. What would he have made

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of all of this kind of pomp and circumstance? I can just see him up

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there now with that smile on his face thinking, fantastic. It was

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here at Howard's salon that his outrageous hair sometimes were

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created. Has anybody ever come in and said, "Can you do me a Jimmy

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Savile?" The short answer is, no. I used to say, "You're not much of an

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advert for me now". His answer would be "Only millionaires and

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tramps can get away with look like this." It has been said when the

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cameras were off, he was a bit of a loner. He didn't have friends.

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Jimmy was friends with royalty. He was friends with Mrs Thatcher.

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Jimmy's real true friends were just ordinary people like myself.

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believe he was the best man at your wedding. He was. The day before the

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wedding, I phoned him up and said, "Jim, please, whatever you do,

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don't wear your track suit," and he didn't answer me. I thought, I

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don't believe it. I have to say, he had a beautiful suit on. He was a

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great best man. Sir Jimmy Savile was knighted in

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1990 for his services to charity. He raised more than �40 million for

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various causes and often worked as a hospital porter at both the Leeds

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Gin Infirmary and Broadmoor Psychiatric Hospital. It's 2.30pm.

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People are still arriving to pay their respects. One is Don Lawson.

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You were on the show when you were Would you say he really did fix it

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for you? He put me on the path I am on. I write about heavy metal. He

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changed my life. Do you still have the Jim'll Fix It badge? Funny you

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should mention that. It's quite heavy. It's surprisingly robust.

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Well done! I'll put my head down in a traditional manner. Well, Jim is

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never going to fix it for me. I'll never get to meet him. So I'll go

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in there and pay my final respects to one of the last true great

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British entertainment icons. # And you

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# And you # What a guy! Now, Peter, obviously,

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you have had quite a privileged lifestyle. You have seen some

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amazing things. You have got your hands on some extraordinary stuff.

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How much would you pay to get your hands on that? Look at that - Jim

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Fixed It For Me! It's gobsmacking. My heart is racing. I really want

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it. Whatever, it's not enough... Can I not... Go on. There you are.

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Amazing, amazing. And Sir Jimmy will be buried tomorrow in

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Scarborough apparently at a 45- degree angle so that he can enjoy

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the view. A bit of a morbid question, what's your dream burial?

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After the last segment on trees, probably - if there was such a

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thing as a Dragon tree, underneath a dragon tree. You are a very

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shrewd business man, but not even Jim could fix it for you to be a

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musician. Have a look at this. Testing, one, two, three. We're

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going to do a little bit of rap then

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# I say hip, hop # You don't stop

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# Big, bang boogie # To the boogie to the boogie

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# To the beat # That is the great thing about BBC

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editing and secondly, forgetting that cameras are around when you're

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filling. I do this with the kid at home. The kids are thinking, daddy

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does that all the time. I thought it was good. Did you think it was

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all right? LAUGHTER

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His show, How We Make Millions is on BBC Two tonight. I have followed

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two quite extraordinary entrepreneurs, and for the first

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time, which is a good thing, it's not about me. It's about them and

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trying to get into their mindset. What is it about them that's made

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them special? I am hoping people will get little snippettes to

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encourage them to take the risk and become an entrepreneur, but it's

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Michelle from Altimo who is an incredible lady and Richard from

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the Smoothie Company. Richard's headquarters made quite an

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impression on you when you first walked in. Let's have a look.

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is the chiller area. It's basically a big communal area for people to

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come in for informal meetings. What's that? We call it the

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smoothie of fortune. Sometimes we'll put all the options on and

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let this decide. So whichever one it turns to... That's the one you

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go for. You make business decisions I had no idea when I went to meet

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him that I was walking into a children's play centre and that is

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his headquarters! Astroturf and table tennis. One of their

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executives was playing a ball game. I thought, interesting way to run a

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business. People were wearing flip- flops and all sorts! It's got worse

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than that! People were working late at night interesting -- in their

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dressing gowns! Don't you think you could lighten up a bit, Peter?

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went on a show at the other day and I was wearing jeans, Red Shoes,

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bright socks, and I'd tell you, they held that I got, it was

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terrible. Do you feel differently when you are dressed down? I feel

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that this is in business mode but I am quite casual really. In the

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Dragons' Den, it does annoy me when people seem like they don't care

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but I am pretty chilled out as a person. And as a dad? You have got

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five kits. How are you introducing them into the world of business? --

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five kids. The Williams is 15 and he is already starting to think not

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just about business but when he wants to go. My nine-year-old has

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really got the entropy and no real quality. She is always listening to

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phone calls I make. She says Jimmy, why did you not invest in that? You

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are stupid! My five and six-year- old, I think, you never know, I

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hope so. How We Made Our Millions is on tonight on BBC Two at 9pm.

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Anyone who has watched a moth banging its head against a light

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bulb might not think they are clever.

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But if George McGavin could prove they are incredible long-distance

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navigators, would you be interested? I think I would be in.

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So are we. We have over 2000 species of moths

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in the UK compared to just over 50 species of butterfly. But you do

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many of them having a nocturnal lifestyle, we seem to know far less

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about them but there is something we do know which seems almost

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impossible. Moths, like birds, are capable of migrating for hundreds

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of miles. But how do we know this and more importantly, how can we

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prove it? Well... By simply taking our moth traps from the land out

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there. Might guide will be moth enthusiast, Dominic Couzens. He has

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invited me on a mission to track moths out at sea in the English

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Channel. I have tracked moths been extinct volcanoes and jungles but I

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have never tracked them at sea but there are moths flying over from

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France and Spain. Almost certainly but very few studies have been done

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in locations such as this. We could find anything. That for me is the

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real thrill of it. That is what I began this study for. You never

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know what you are going to get. It is like Christmas every day. It is

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fantastic, everything we do is novel. To eliminate the chances of

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finding an accidental moth at sea, we need to travel a couple of miles

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out. Anything we find here is almost certainly going to be on

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some kind of migratory journey and once dark enough, we can set up my

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high-tech moth trap. Not forgetting my own bed sheet. That will be

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irresistible to every moth. There is the first one in! There it is!

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No, it is a flight. It is the start but it is not end -- it is not a

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moth. Fortunately, we did not have to wait too long before it kicked

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off. The problem was, they would not staying still long enough for

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us to find out what they were. They filmed more interested in the

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It has landed on the camera lens! One after another, a variety of

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species were coming in. From the chunky yellow under wings, right

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through to a little ones like micro moths. And one we really wanted to

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see it... On the edge there! The board and yellow under wing! I

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haven't seen that one! Under wings are known for migrating huge

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distances to find new breeding sites. This one could have been on

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its way to France when it was attracted by the lights on the boat

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but how does such a small creature find its way around at night over

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vast expanses of ocean with known landmarks as visual cues? There are

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a number of theories. That they use the Earth's magnetic field, that

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they use the moon as a reference point, which may also explain why

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they are attracted to bright lights. But recent research has revealed

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that they have even evolved to harness the power of the stars.

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They put this moth in a planetarium. Inside a planetarium. And it

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altered its direction according to the experimental movement of the

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stars around it. I see. They could change what it could see. They

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don't say, look, there is the Great Bear or something. But they do

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appear to be navigating and orientating themselves by the stars.

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It is an extraordinary thought. Before we released them, we were

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able to collect and identify eight different 11 species. Her many are

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there out there? -- eight different moth species. How many are out

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there? Nobody knows. It is amazing to think creatures as small as

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moths can fly over large expanses of ocean with no place to rest and

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even the tiniest gaps to wind can send them spinning to the watery

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grave. Alex's dad has a phobia of moths.

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Yes, he nearly drowned in the bath once because a moth came in the

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window. He is fine with butterflies. We could not risk getting George

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and the dragon together, so what have you got for Peter? It is a

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beautiful bearded dragon from Australia. It loves the heat.

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a real dragon! It is a bearded dragon and it comes from the arid

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parts of Australia and they are absolutely gorgeous. They love

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their heat. He will try to find or warm spot. He wants half of your

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equity! It feels really quite strange but very rough, as expected.

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Really cute! That is the beard under his chin. Lots of people have

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bearded dragons as pets but tell us about some others. There are lots

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of things you cannot have as a pet. They live quite a long time so you

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should not really take them on without due care and attention, but

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there are lots of other fantastic Dragons. This one is called the

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Flying Dragon. It comes from India. It has a flap of skin and it can

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glide 8 ft off the tree so if it isn't any threat, it will fly off.

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It can glide quite a long way. And there is another one from Australia

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caught the thorny dragon. The thorny devil. That is quite small.

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Are you OK, Peter?! It is an amazing animal. Here is a fish

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called A-C dragon, which I think is really gorgeous. -- sea dragon. It

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heights of enemies because it looks completely out of this world. -- it

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hides from its enemies. You could not make it up. Peter and the

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bearded dragon have made friends. You will get one as a pet now and

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lots of people are sending e-mails, there is an dragon tree.

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Children In Need, you have got a very special guest pitching for you.

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Can you tell us? I can definitely. People will be interested to know

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that we have got Lord Sugar. He is coming into the Dragons' Den. As

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you know, he is quite old now, so he got a bit out of puff coming up

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the stairs, which was quite funny, but he is on and it is very, very

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interesting. He was tough. Was he nervous? He looked really nervous.

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But there will be fireworks, that is all I will say. I'm into that.

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All will be revealed. Children In Need. In less than 36 hours, on

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Friday, I will be heading out on the first stage of my Children In

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Need rickshaw challenge, hopefully pedalling all the way back to

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London to get back in time for the big night the following Friday.

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Be there by 7pm! And he needs you support. Peter, if you can read the

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details. To donate, to Matt's standard network charge and �5 goes

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Thank you. People have also been asking how they can donate without

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sending a text. You can send a Make it out to Children In Need. We

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know you are in too fast cars and you a competitive so we could not

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resist asking you to take part in a rickshaw challenge: "A Reasonably

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Sturdy Rickshaw". Who wants to see Peter's attempt? Yes! It was a

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great start. Look at how fast you We haven't seen anybody go this

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fast but will you not one of the cones over? -- knock. Very close! A

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penalty! Two points. As we can see, Jean Simmons got

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19.8. What do you reckon? 22 But to be fair, Jean Simmons did

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not do anything, he just sat there as a passenger, so actually, we are

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going to get rid of him. Matt, you think you know what the next film

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is but you don't because lots of family and friends and many

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rickshaw drivers from around the world would like to give you some

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I am from Singapore! Good luck, Matt! From New York, good luck!

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Best of luck, Matt! Good luck from the rickshaw drivers in London!

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darling boy, ever been to London on the rickshaw? Not bad. I am often

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Hackney Marsh on my bicycle. Matt, why are you doing this? You saw me

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swim the Thames, you know how hard it is, but I take my swimming hat

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off to you! How about this for an idea? How about riding to all of

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your future locations? This will be a mammoth task, sun, and we are

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behind you 100% and if it was about heart and determination, you will

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do it. Anybody out there, if you see him struggling, please give him

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a push! I want to wish you all of the very best, my son. At the end

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of this, at least if you don't have a job, you will be able to go

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around Durham giving people rides in a rickshaw. Good luck, Matt!

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Good luck, mate! Good luck, Daddy! Good luck.

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There we are! We have no doubt at all that you

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will manage it. What are you dreading the most? The hills. They

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are endless. I just have to keep going. Keep going and be back by

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7pm a week tomorrow, that is all I need. That support is wonderful.

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give you an extra push, we will reveal how much you have raised so

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Thank you so much! And a personal thank-you to six-year-old Crystal,

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who has donated her pocket money to me as well.

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One more thing, to mark Armistice Day on Friday we would like to

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celebrate the military he raised in your family.

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Send us a picture to the usual address -- military heroes. I will

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get my helmet and head off. Hopefully see you on Friday.

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