09/11/2011 The One Show

Hello, and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

And Alex Jones. Now, we've had Dragons from the Den on the One

Show before. But there's one we've never, ever

been able to catch - until now. And we've struck a good deal. He's

offered to give us all his attention for at least 25% of the

show. It's Peter Jones. APPLAUSE

How are you doing? Nice to see you. Thank you for having me on.

Lots of other Dragons have fallen by the wayside, but you and Duncan

Bannatyne are the only ones who have lasted all nine series, but

you two haven't always seen eye to eye? No, we did not. I think we

detested each other. Why? I don't know. I think, firstly, we were new

to TV. I was. He was an actor as well by trade, and I think clearly

two quite driven individuals with egos - I think it was a car crash

waiting to happen, and we made it happen many times, but now I must

say he's mellowed. He's mellowed! He's got his bus pass, and I think

he's a really lovely guy. Is it right he is considerably richer

than you? Well, that's what he tells me. I'm sure he is no. He's

lovely, Duncan. I love him. Sir Duncan I'm sure. Very soon. You are

fussy about how people dress. You're looking smart tonight, but

you're very fussy that they put you in the correct business attire.

am, because whatever environment in I think you should match the

environment you're going to. If you go into a bank and ask for �100,000,

if you go in ripped jeans and a T- shirt, you're up against it, but if

you're on TV, you would look ridiculous... To be fair, that tie

matches our sofa absolutely brilliant. You have dressed

correctly. More from Peter about his new drama where he searches for

the secret for making a million. Peter might be good at growing a

business, but it's a different type of growth our resident tree hugger

Lucy Siegle is interested in. She has been to see how a mammoth

tree planting project taking place today, echoes one that took place

74 years ago. An old proverb says he who plants a

tree loves others besides himself. In 1937, the nation took this quote

to its heart, and thousands of communities planted trees in

celebration of the coronation of This Royal record, which was

rediscovered just four months ago, has now been made available online,

and it recalls the history of thousands of trees planted 75 years

ago. Patricia was just ten when she planted one of those trees outside

the grounds of her school in Wiltshire.

So can you remember what it was like to plant that tree? Yes, I do

remember. Planted the trees and the crocuses and daffodils. I remember

thinking how beautiful they were once they blossomed and grew. It

showed me how beautiful things could be. I hadn't noticed things

like trees because they hadn't been a big part of my life. Does it feel

nice to you knowing that there is going to be a whole other raft of

children doing what you did, carrying on this tradition? It's

nice to know children will be coming on and doing the same sort

of things. Another proverb states the best time to plant a tree was

20 years ago, the second best is now.

Majestically, given all our proverbs about trees this country

is actually one of the least wooded in the whole of Europe. The Woodlan

Trust wants to change this, and for the Queen's Diamond Jub Lee,

they're hoping to plant six million trees across the country. We're

aiming to have diamond woods planted. 31 of those are already in

place. We have 20,000 free tree packs to give away the schools and

community groups. We're hoping many people will plant trees in their

gardens. What would make somebody want to plant a tree without being

cephalic? What do you get from it? You connect with the world in a

very special way. The tree you plant will help give us oxygen,

help to reduce flooding. It will make you feel better looking at it,

and a tree can add value to your property. In Wiltshire at the same

Neston school where Patricia planted her tree 75 years ago new

saplings are taking root. Any advice you want to give to this

new team of tree planters? Just that they don't forget what they

have done and that it's important to them. What does it feel like to

be planting this tree, the first one? I think it feels great because

we're starting off planting six million trees, and we're the first

school to do it. I think it will be amazing to actually see the plant

I've actually put in the ground. Are you going to come back and keep

visiting this tree? Yeah, when I am old, my kids will come to this

school. That's the sort of commitment I'm looking for. That's

good. Good job there.

Lucy is here, of course, but first, Peter, your tree-planting skills,

how are they? They're not very good. Tara is the one at home that does

the tree planting. We were just talking a second ago off camera. I

must admit I have a place that's big enough to plant trees. I have

just said, I'm going to start planting trees. Very good. Sign up.

I am in. This is the year to do it - next year... If others want to be

involved as well, how do others get involved? Everybody can get

involved, so the Woodland Trust is leading this initiative to plant.

They want to plant diamond woods, jubilee woods all over the country.

I said, I have a small garden. They have said no, excuses. You can

plant a tree in a pot. They want to get six million trees planted

across the UK. You can plant loads in your garden because it's so big.

I can plant one in a pot. You can get all the information at our

website and what pack you need. You need to start planting from

November - the tree season runs, so from next year, you can order a

community pack if you want to plant as a community - from February or

in November. So you plant at the right time, and make sure that you

get a tree that is appropriate to your circumstances, so don't plant

an oak in a small garden because it's not the right place. No. You

have a window boxed a a few acres, you can go for it. Exactly. As far

as getting the hands on the Royal records are concerned, to see if a

tree was plant near you in 1939, is that possible? Yes, they're all

online, digitally uploaded. I actually sat with the book - I am

so sad - and looked up some trees in my local area. It's amazing. Now

I look at them like completely differently. They're like celebrity

trees. This time next time around when you plant your tree, it will

also go online and will be put in another Royal book which will be

presented to the Queen again so future generations will be able to

see... It's like a tree spotter. is. Tree spotters are in!

people could potentially walk past your tree in 800 years' time.

A dragon tree! If it lasts that long, it's doing well.

It seems fitting that Sir Jimmy Saville, a man who lived such an

eccentric life, should also have an extraordinary send off. And that's

certainly what he's getting this week. Today there was a funeral

service for him at St Anne's Catholic Cathedral in Leeds.

Followed a so-called lying in state in which thousands of people came

to pay their last respects. Alex Riley - a true Savile fan - was

amongst them. Growing up Sir Jimmy Savile was a massive part of my

Saturday night TV entertainment. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome

indeed to another edition of Jim'll Fix It. I remember his outrageous

outfits on Top of the Pops, him telling us to clunk, click every

trip and on Jim'll Fix It where like a modern-day Father Christmas,

he made the dreams of children come true... Now, then, now, then.

at the Queen's Hotel in Leeds in a manner you would normally associate

with a Prime Minister or royalty, Jimmy Savile is lying in state in a

golden coffin so his friends and fans can pay their final respects.

What was it like when you went into the room where his coffin was?

Beautiful. How would you sum up Jimmy Savile? What was he to you?

Kind and friendly. He is a bit of a legend. He was flash in life. Now

he's being flash in death. sendoff like that - fantastic.

were one of Jimmy's closest friends. I was, yes. What would he have made

of all of this kind of pomp and circumstance? I can just see him up

there now with that smile on his face thinking, fantastic. It was

here at Howard's salon that his outrageous hair sometimes were

created. Has anybody ever come in and said, "Can you do me a Jimmy

Savile?" The short answer is, no. I used to say, "You're not much of an

advert for me now". His answer would be "Only millionaires and

tramps can get away with look like this." It has been said when the

cameras were off, he was a bit of a loner. He didn't have friends.

Jimmy was friends with royalty. He was friends with Mrs Thatcher.

Jimmy's real true friends were just ordinary people like myself.

believe he was the best man at your wedding. He was. The day before the

wedding, I phoned him up and said, "Jim, please, whatever you do,

don't wear your track suit," and he didn't answer me. I thought, I

don't believe it. I have to say, he had a beautiful suit on. He was a

great best man. Sir Jimmy Savile was knighted in

1990 for his services to charity. He raised more than �40 million for

various causes and often worked as a hospital porter at both the Leeds

Gin Infirmary and Broadmoor Psychiatric Hospital. It's 2.30pm.

People are still arriving to pay their respects. One is Don Lawson.

You were on the show when you were Would you say he really did fix it

for you? He put me on the path I am on. I write about heavy metal. He

changed my life. Do you still have the Jim'll Fix It badge? Funny you

should mention that. It's quite heavy. It's surprisingly robust.

Well done! I'll put my head down in a traditional manner. Well, Jim is

never going to fix it for me. I'll never get to meet him. So I'll go

in there and pay my final respects to one of the last true great

British entertainment icons. # And you

# And you # What a guy! Now, Peter, obviously,

you have had quite a privileged lifestyle. You have seen some

amazing things. You have got your hands on some extraordinary stuff.

How much would you pay to get your hands on that? Look at that - Jim

Fixed It For Me! It's gobsmacking. My heart is racing. I really want

it. Whatever, it's not enough... Can I not... Go on. There you are.

Amazing, amazing. And Sir Jimmy will be buried tomorrow in

Scarborough apparently at a 45- degree angle so that he can enjoy

the view. A bit of a morbid question, what's your dream burial?

After the last segment on trees, probably - if there was such a

thing as a Dragon tree, underneath a dragon tree. You are a very

shrewd business man, but not even Jim could fix it for you to be a

musician. Have a look at this. Testing, one, two, three. We're

going to do a little bit of rap then

# I say hip, hop # You don't stop

# Big, bang boogie # To the boogie to the boogie

# To the beat # That is the great thing about BBC

editing and secondly, forgetting that cameras are around when you're

filling. I do this with the kid at home. The kids are thinking, daddy

does that all the time. I thought it was good. Did you think it was

all right? LAUGHTER

His show, How We Make Millions is on BBC Two tonight. I have followed

two quite extraordinary entrepreneurs, and for the first

time, which is a good thing, it's not about me. It's about them and

trying to get into their mindset. What is it about them that's made

them special? I am hoping people will get little snippettes to

encourage them to take the risk and become an entrepreneur, but it's

Michelle from Altimo who is an incredible lady and Richard from

the Smoothie Company. Richard's headquarters made quite an

impression on you when you first walked in. Let's have a look.

is the chiller area. It's basically a big communal area for people to

come in for informal meetings. What's that? We call it the

smoothie of fortune. Sometimes we'll put all the options on and

let this decide. So whichever one it turns to... That's the one you

go for. You make business decisions I had no idea when I went to meet

him that I was walking into a children's play centre and that is

his headquarters! Astroturf and table tennis. One of their

executives was playing a ball game. I thought, interesting way to run a

business. People were wearing flip- flops and all sorts! It's got worse

than that! People were working late at night interesting -- in their

dressing gowns! Don't you think you could lighten up a bit, Peter?

went on a show at the other day and I was wearing jeans, Red Shoes,

bright socks, and I'd tell you, they held that I got, it was

terrible. Do you feel differently when you are dressed down? I feel

that this is in business mode but I am quite casual really. In the

Dragons' Den, it does annoy me when people seem like they don't care

but I am pretty chilled out as a person. And as a dad? You have got

five kits. How are you introducing them into the world of business? --

five kids. The Williams is 15 and he is already starting to think not

just about business but when he wants to go. My nine-year-old has

really got the entropy and no real quality. She is always listening to

phone calls I make. She says Jimmy, why did you not invest in that? You

are stupid! My five and six-year- old, I think, you never know, I

hope so. How We Made Our Millions is on tonight on BBC Two at 9pm.

Anyone who has watched a moth banging its head against a light

bulb might not think they are clever.

But if George McGavin could prove they are incredible long-distance

navigators, would you be interested? I think I would be in.

So are we. We have over 2000 species of moths

in the UK compared to just over 50 species of butterfly. But you do

many of them having a nocturnal lifestyle, we seem to know far less

about them but there is something we do know which seems almost

impossible. Moths, like birds, are capable of migrating for hundreds

of miles. But how do we know this and more importantly, how can we

prove it? Well... By simply taking our moth traps from the land out

there. Might guide will be moth enthusiast, Dominic Couzens. He has

invited me on a mission to track moths out at sea in the English

Channel. I have tracked moths been extinct volcanoes and jungles but I

have never tracked them at sea but there are moths flying over from

France and Spain. Almost certainly but very few studies have been done

in locations such as this. We could find anything. That for me is the

real thrill of it. That is what I began this study for. You never

know what you are going to get. It is like Christmas every day. It is

fantastic, everything we do is novel. To eliminate the chances of

finding an accidental moth at sea, we need to travel a couple of miles

out. Anything we find here is almost certainly going to be on

some kind of migratory journey and once dark enough, we can set up my

high-tech moth trap. Not forgetting my own bed sheet. That will be

irresistible to every moth. There is the first one in! There it is!

No, it is a flight. It is the start but it is not end -- it is not a

moth. Fortunately, we did not have to wait too long before it kicked

off. The problem was, they would not staying still long enough for

us to find out what they were. They filmed more interested in the

It has landed on the camera lens! One after another, a variety of

species were coming in. From the chunky yellow under wings, right

through to a little ones like micro moths. And one we really wanted to

see it... On the edge there! The board and yellow under wing! I

haven't seen that one! Under wings are known for migrating huge

distances to find new breeding sites. This one could have been on

its way to France when it was attracted by the lights on the boat

but how does such a small creature find its way around at night over

vast expanses of ocean with known landmarks as visual cues? There are

a number of theories. That they use the Earth's magnetic field, that

they use the moon as a reference point, which may also explain why

they are attracted to bright lights. But recent research has revealed

that they have even evolved to harness the power of the stars.

They put this moth in a planetarium. Inside a planetarium. And it

altered its direction according to the experimental movement of the

stars around it. I see. They could change what it could see. They

don't say, look, there is the Great Bear or something. But they do

appear to be navigating and orientating themselves by the stars.

It is an extraordinary thought. Before we released them, we were

able to collect and identify eight different 11 species. Her many are

there out there? -- eight different moth species. How many are out

there? Nobody knows. It is amazing to think creatures as small as

moths can fly over large expanses of ocean with no place to rest and

even the tiniest gaps to wind can send them spinning to the watery

grave. Alex's dad has a phobia of moths.

Yes, he nearly drowned in the bath once because a moth came in the

window. He is fine with butterflies. We could not risk getting George

and the dragon together, so what have you got for Peter? It is a

beautiful bearded dragon from Australia. It loves the heat.

a real dragon! It is a bearded dragon and it comes from the arid

parts of Australia and they are absolutely gorgeous. They love

their heat. He will try to find or warm spot. He wants half of your

equity! It feels really quite strange but very rough, as expected.

Really cute! That is the beard under his chin. Lots of people have

bearded dragons as pets but tell us about some others. There are lots

of things you cannot have as a pet. They live quite a long time so you

should not really take them on without due care and attention, but

there are lots of other fantastic Dragons. This one is called the

Flying Dragon. It comes from India. It has a flap of skin and it can

glide 8 ft off the tree so if it isn't any threat, it will fly off.

It can glide quite a long way. And there is another one from Australia

caught the thorny dragon. The thorny devil. That is quite small.

Are you OK, Peter?! It is an amazing animal. Here is a fish

called A-C dragon, which I think is really gorgeous. -- sea dragon. It

heights of enemies because it looks completely out of this world. -- it

hides from its enemies. You could not make it up. Peter and the

bearded dragon have made friends. You will get one as a pet now and

lots of people are sending e-mails, there is an dragon tree.

Children In Need, you have got a very special guest pitching for you.

Can you tell us? I can definitely. People will be interested to know

that we have got Lord Sugar. He is coming into the Dragons' Den. As

you know, he is quite old now, so he got a bit out of puff coming up

the stairs, which was quite funny, but he is on and it is very, very

interesting. He was tough. Was he nervous? He looked really nervous.

But there will be fireworks, that is all I will say. I'm into that.

All will be revealed. Children In Need. In less than 36 hours, on

Friday, I will be heading out on the first stage of my Children In

Need rickshaw challenge, hopefully pedalling all the way back to

London to get back in time for the big night the following Friday.

Be there by 7pm! And he needs you support. Peter, if you can read the

details. To donate, to Matt's standard network charge and �5 goes

Thank you. People have also been asking how they can donate without

sending a text. You can send a Make it out to Children In Need. We

know you are in too fast cars and you a competitive so we could not

resist asking you to take part in a rickshaw challenge: "A Reasonably

Sturdy Rickshaw". Who wants to see Peter's attempt? Yes! It was a

great start. Look at how fast you We haven't seen anybody go this

fast but will you not one of the cones over? -- knock. Very close! A

penalty! Two points. As we can see, Jean Simmons got

19.8. What do you reckon? 22 But to be fair, Jean Simmons did

not do anything, he just sat there as a passenger, so actually, we are

going to get rid of him. Matt, you think you know what the next film

is but you don't because lots of family and friends and many

rickshaw drivers from around the world would like to give you some

I am from Singapore! Good luck, Matt! From New York, good luck!

Best of luck, Matt! Good luck from the rickshaw drivers in London!

darling boy, ever been to London on the rickshaw? Not bad. I am often

Hackney Marsh on my bicycle. Matt, why are you doing this? You saw me

swim the Thames, you know how hard it is, but I take my swimming hat

off to you! How about this for an idea? How about riding to all of

your future locations? This will be a mammoth task, sun, and we are

behind you 100% and if it was about heart and determination, you will

do it. Anybody out there, if you see him struggling, please give him

a push! I want to wish you all of the very best, my son. At the end

of this, at least if you don't have a job, you will be able to go

around Durham giving people rides in a rickshaw. Good luck, Matt!

Good luck, mate! Good luck, Daddy! Good luck.

There we are! We have no doubt at all that you

will manage it. What are you dreading the most? The hills. They

are endless. I just have to keep going. Keep going and be back by

7pm a week tomorrow, that is all I need. That support is wonderful.

give you an extra push, we will reveal how much you have raised so

Thank you so much! And a personal thank-you to six-year-old Crystal,

who has donated her pocket money to me as well.

One more thing, to mark Armistice Day on Friday we would like to

celebrate the military he raised in your family.

Send us a picture to the usual address -- military heroes. I will

get my helmet and head off. Hopefully see you on Friday.