10/06/2013 The One Show

with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. Our guest tonight was in a boy band,

then a man band and now he is having a crack at a one-man band. It's Mark

Owen! Good to see you. It's very exciting. I see you on the

television and it's the first time I have sat on the sofa. It's not that

comfy. Yeah, good for posture. are going to be singing at the end

of the show, very exciting. Last night was the first night of your

tour in Sheffield, how was that? Amazing crowd. People came, which is

always good. Were you feeling tentative going on stage?

vice-president done a gig on my own for eight years -- haven't done a

gig on my own for eight years. Not quite sure whether anybody would

turn up. But it was amazing. Amazing crowd. A lovely venue. It was in

Sheffield, it's a great place anyway, it was kind of close and

proper venue. It was hot and sweaty. Good. Listen after three decades of

huge sellout tours there can't be many people who haven't seen Mark

live by now. If you have a photograph of him and the boys live

in the flesh at a gig or anywhere else, send us a picture and we will

show some at the end of the show. will show them just before you sing

so you can see them yourself. me in the zone! We have had Dutch

elm disease, oak decline, and after the past year we can now add ash

dieback to the list of tree threats. Lucy's been to Norfolk to see what

you can do to help and to help the scientists starting the ash

fightback. Ash dieback either arrived through imported trees or it

blew in on a wind from elsewhere in Europe. Nobody knows for sure. We do

know is that it's now at 500 sites here in the UK, including this one

in Norfolk. It can be quite difficult to spot this time of year.

But if you look here you can see this lesion on the bark, this will

rise up through the stem and on this tree the leaves are already wilting.

In a couple of weeks they will blacken and it will be completely

dead. Unfortunately, this tree has definitely got ash dieback. Denmark

has seen 60-90% of its ash trees die. The Government scientists say

now that it's here it's unstoppable. You might think that following the

invasion we Brits would slowly accept defeat and let the disease

take root. Not so. A small army of British scientists and landowners

aren't willing to give up the fight. They've come up with an awry of

ingenious inventions and ideas which they hope will save our ash trees.

One of these is a machine related to technology first created to test for

anthrax in war zones. Now developed to fight against ash dieback.

Identifying infected areas and trees quickly has been a problem, but this

machine can do it in 20 minutes. actually got the fungus from the

tree and grew it up and had a look at its biological blueprint. It

enables us to rapidly identify whether we have ash dieback in the

field. It sounds revolutionary. Is it? Very much so. This is the first

across the world really for using this particular piece of technology

for identifying plant diseases. it that ash dieback is so serious a

concern that it merits using this? Absolutely. If it's in an area say

like this lovely woodland here where people take dogs for a walk, people

can help like wiping your boots when you have had a walk, keep to paths.

What would previously have taken three weeks... Give it a little tap.

Now takes minutes. We now pop it in the machine. After about 20 minutes

the amount of DNA has increased to such April extent we can visual is

it on the machine. What does this prove conclusively? The tree we took

the sample from is positive for ash dieback fungus. Scientists are also

using the latest mapping techniques to track the disease and this is

something we can all help with because they've developed a phone

app. That to me looks like ash dieback. But who am I to say? All I

do is take a picture like so. The phone will automatically tell them

my location and then I send it off to the boffins. Done. If it looks

like a possible case it's sent direct to the Forestry Commission

and that's helping them build a much clearer picture of how the disease

is spreading. But it's not just about identification. Here in

Norfolk ash dieback has been confirmed in over 80 sites. Why are

they planting 250,000 new British ash trees? Well, they're hoping that

some may turn out to be naturally resistant. It's a good thing to use

our own native ash because there could be subtle differences in the

genetics which make it better adapted for our climate. If we were

to bring ash in from say France it may not do as well here.

realistic realistically some of them are going to die? Some will die. The

idea of this trial is to put the wide genetic diversity of trees into

the face of the disease so that they stand every chance possible of

catching it and, sadly, a lot of them are going to die. But we hope

we will get some survivors that will give us that lifeline to the future.

That will be like the golden ticket? Absolutely. This tree here could be

the one that holds the key to giving us resistance for ash across the

British isle. Let's keep everything crossed that we will find one that

will stand strong there. During that film you were saying you have ash

trees at the bottom of your garden overlooking the studio. I think we

have a little treehouse at the bottom of - there is a picture of

the studio. That's that bloke who was in the back garden! Sneaking

around with a camera. A treehouse on an ash tree. The kids have a little

treehouse. How does it feel from that studio to standing with Take

That in front of 80,000 scream screaming nutcases like myself going

fad for you? -- mad for you? There must be a point it doesn't feel

real. That's amazing when you are doing stuff like that. You have

those people singing your songs. I have a button, like a cheering

button, when I write a song if it's a good one, I press the button and

80,000 people going yeah! Is it any good, boo! All the fans around the

country will be screaming for us to ask you the question, what's

happening with you lads? Are you going back to the recording studio,

coming back out on tour, what's happening? There are plans for us to

make a new record. We are going to hopefully be going to the studio

next year in January. That's what things are at the moment. It does

change. Four, five people involved. What about a tour on the back of a

new album? It's funny, when you show things like that it looks amazing.

Why would we not want to attempt to do that again? When you say four or

five, you are not sure how many will be back on the road or the studio?

Rob starts his big tours at the end of this week. I think he starts,

yeah or next week. He is doing big shows. He's been very busy the last

year or so. I don't know whether - everybody's kind of up for doing

something together again. You know, we will see how everybody feels. You

never know. You are all busy with individual stuff. Gary is doing X

Factor, Rob a new dad and he is busy, Howard is doing Got To Dance

in Germany. Jason, what's he doing? I think he likes taking a bit of

time. He's been up, back up north to see family and friends and chill

out. Have time for himself. He was in - did you see him in Shameless? A

bit of acting. You are busy, the new album and the title is this thing,

that you can't sit around doing nothing. It's called The Art of

Doing Nothing. And yeah, that's the name of the album. Yeah, it seems

like the one thing I have been doing the last couple of weeks is not

nothing, rehearsing, been on tour. It should be the art of working

hard! You are a budding artist, as well. Is it drawing, painting?

I am a budding artist. When I finish the Progress tour I came home and

thought, right, I am going to do painting and bought a load of

canvases and paint and an easel and started to do loads of paintings,

the whole house was covered in paint. All in my fingernails weeks

later. Nobody's ever seen any. I enjoyed making a bit of a mess.

on a minute! Who designed this, Mark? Did you design this? Yeah.

Isn't that amazing. You can all get your own mugs. Isn't that brilliant?

There is an illustrator called What Katie Drew what did illustration for

the album and she helped us, she's amazing. I can't take all the

credit. I will take a little bit, but not all of it. Before we wrap up

this, we have to say congratulations because you have been five months

without smoking but you have taken up chocolate instead. Did you see my

dressing room? We did. But it's not showing on your figure. Waistcoats

help. I am the same with these things. Every time you fancy a

cigarette on tour, maybe you could have a piece of this. Look. It's a

chocolate you Is that me? That's amazing. Because you dress up. We

can't take credit That's amazing. And they've got an easel. You can't

have that, we need that! It's ready edible and it's fresh. Hasn't been

there for ages. You can pick off a star. Mark will be singing Stars at

the end of the show. How do you keep that, it will melt. Big fridge!

Amazing, thank you, wow! Have a nibble while you are watching this.

John Sergeant has gone back to his investigative roots to look into one

of the world's most secretive meetings. John went to snoop around

to find out what was really going on behind closed doors in

Hertfordshire. This is top secret. Over there in

that hotel there's been a meeting of about 140 people, including some of

the most powerful people in the world. Each year for the past 60

years the billed Bilderberg group have been meeting in secret in

various cups to discuss - well, we don't know various countries. The

meeting took place at the Grove hotel in Hertfordshire. It's

surrounded by an impressive golf course. A great place for a weekend

jolly, but Michael Meacher MP believes there could be a much more

sinister agenda. This is a meeting of the most important people from

the banks, UN institutions, from Europe, all politicians. People who

control the biggest institutions when they meet, they meet in order

to concert an agenda, to get their plans implemented. There is no doubt

at all that they would not be here if these were not very important

decisions. We need to know what they have been discussing and they should

be held to account in parliament about what may have been decided.

You are a spokesman for a secret meeting but you can't say much, you

can't really say anything, is that right? For the first time in a long

history the Bilderberg Group has employed a PR company with a sort of

spokesman. He didn't want to be filmed and asked us not to reveal

his name. I was allowed, though, to have a chat with him on the phone.

He said what he can, which is not very much! A few years ago the very

existence of the Group was denied but an American conspiracy

theorists, Alex Jones, helped to blow its cover. His internet radio

show claims to have three million daily followers. The past years our

moles inside have gotten us their agenda. MrJones travelled from the

United States just to stand outside and attack the delegates for their

secrecy. Right, now, tell me they're meeting. What's your feeling about

that? You have a major lobbying scandal going on right now in the

UK, Members of Parliament resigning and then hiding in plain view is one

of the most famous secretive lobbying organisations in the world

and it's right there at the pinnacle of power. They're up to no good?Not

everyone who goes to Bilderberg from my research is a skound reor

villain. They're in there with regulators trying to figure out tax

avoidance schemes, for themselves, how to put their losses off on the

public Is it a financial conspiracy? Financial control is at the core of

it. But it runs the gamet. You will have some - some meetings meeting

with energy company heads and after the meeting they go and shut down

competition. You can't stop secret meetings, can you? No, but we need

to go back to the old days of 70 years ago of when the media really

would try to get in to the fat cats smoking room, we are rediscovering

the power gets behind the scenes and tries to screw the little people and

tries to use Government regulation to shut down the people. And we are

here in defiance of their tyranny! It's time for lunch, I think.

Absolutely. Goodness me, Alex Jones! Alex Jones the conspiracy theorists

has caused me no end of problems this weekend, doing what are you

doing? It's not me. You are not like him. The Bilderberg Group, it's a

great one for conspiracy theoristses to latch on to. Yes, David Cameron

was there, George Osborne, Ed Balls, Mandelson. They are certainly

important people meeting, is it a conspiracy? I don't think so.

can they justify the Prime Minister attending meetings like this?

Clarke said it is a private organisation, not government

responsibility, and in a sense why shouldn't we have private meetings?

And in a way maybe you want important people to get round and

have the matter before making policies. It can be extremely

useful, and you can pick up gossip, especially on the sidelines. But if

you had a real secret, can you imagine blurting it out in front of

perhaps 100 other people. You wouldn't because somebody might have

a tape recording, somebody might break the rules of secrecy. It is

very unlikely the delegates would say a real secret. And we are

talking about it on telly! Bilderberg Group is not the first

secret society, there are things like the Freemasons. The Freemasons

go back several hundred years, the Catholic Opus Dei group, a group of

future leaders meeting for residential courses. In America you

have the Bohemian Grove, which sounds dreadful! I'm sure a lot of

musicians must get together in secret. We have the X-Files!With

these bands reforming you might think they would get together, not

their heads together and there instruments or whatever. I don't

know. They do it without me, if they do! Getting music groups together is

about as hard as getting politicians together to agree I would have

thought. Before we got back together we had a couple of meetings. We

wanted to test how it would feel. the music studio? We sat around and

said how is everybody feeling and do you want to attempt this? And the

outcome was positive, which was good news. If the Bilderberg Group want

their next meeting to be very secret, they will have to choose

somewhere harder to get to than Watford. Rockall, the most remote

part of the British Isles, this tiny outcrop measures 31 metres by 25

metres. This SAS soldier reaffirmed the UK's writes to the island and

the resource rich seas around it by occupying it for 40 days. Now Nick

Hancock from Edinburgh wants to break that record and live in this

DIY survival pod for 60 days. a huge contrast from day-to-day

life, going to work and sitting at a desk, and going out to Rockall will

be completely different and probably quite refreshing. Nick is a

chartered surveyor and his workmates think he is crazy. Good on him for

doing that. It is good but he is mad. I think he's crazy, brave, off

his head. Winnick first raised the subject of taking two months off to

sit on a rock, the initial reaction was no! But he won them round. So

you will be spending most of your 60 days in an area known larger than

your average dining room table. will be tethered 15 metres above the

waterline. It will still get hit by waves. Last year a reconnaissance

visit to the Rock showed how crucial the weather will be in his attempt.

Sheer cliffs make it difficult to land on. There is just one spot

where he can climb up on but this year he will be taking his pod with

him and to do it he needs perfect conditions. We can see here the

swell is starting to pick up, 2.6 metres. Swell of 2.6 metres may mean

that Nick cannot get onto the rock at all. It is getting closer to the

point of no return. The pod is going on to the boat, then you are

committed and off. It will take more than 12 hours to reach Rockall. Four

hours in and the weather takes a turn for the worse. We have suddenly

dropped off the continental shelf so the ocean has gone from about 100

metres deep to over two kilometres so it is starting to get lumpy but

one of us doesn't seem bothered in the slightest. This is now or never

window, and Nick is concerned about his chances of even getting onto the

rock. I went to jump the boat fell away from me so I fell

unceremoniously into the drink! You can be on maybe a few metres and the

swell will come in and take you off again. Having travelled across 200

miles of ocean, a spec appears on the radar. As day breaks, we get our

first glimpse of the island. There we have it, lays macro rising like a

snaggletooth out of the Atlantic. Looking at it, I cannot believe Nick

is going to climb on it. As we get closer, skipper Angus Smith sees a

problem with the swell. It is not looking good. It is pulling away,

leaving a hole, then coming up quickly, rising about four metres.

It is too quick to scramble up without damaging yourself. Angus

takes Nick to one side and takes the decision to pull the plug on his

attempt. With only enough fuel to get us home and the weather

deteriorating, we have to turn back. I am really disappointed, look has

not been on my side. Looking at it, I am not confident I am going to get

on. This was the only window and Nick had to make his attempt. Leave

it any later and a 60 day stay may have left him stranded. It was

always going to be a tough challenge but coming 250 miles out here and

seeing the swell go up and down the side of Rockall, you would have to

be mad to try to climb on it, but he lives to fight another day. He will

conquer the rock yet. Nick is here, thankfully wide-awake.

Why didn't you have another go the day after? The weather was going to

get progressively worse so we had to make a run for it back to the Isle

of Harris. It is a huge shame, but what did your office colleagues make

of it when you went back? They were a bit surprised to see me but it was

good for them that I could take over some of the workload again. You have

now parked your capsule in the car park and working from their!

Obviously you did research, what was the most fascinating thing you found

out about Rockall? It rises about 2000 metres above the sea level so

it is higher than Ben Nevis. If you do try it again, good luck. Earlier

on we asked if you had any pictures of Mark. This is Mark in 2009.

piano. This is from your biggest fan called Katie Warrington, this was on

the Circus tour. She is planning to name her baby after you. I have

still got my unicycle. This is from 1993, you haven't changed a bit.

This was the happiest day of my life more than 20 years ago, surely in

witness. That is amazing. We will show some more during Mark's first

live TV performance. Ready? This is Stars. # Gonna build a rocket # Any

time you want it # Paint it pretty colours # Gonna light it up and take

us to the moon # That's what I'm gonna do # That's what I'm gonna #

Save up all the paper # Gonna need later # Maybe take a minute # To get

to my head directions of the way # You want to get away # I'm taking

you # Through the eyes of the black hole # And the open doors # Through

the cracks in the pavement # In conversation # From the top of the

empire # To a state unknown # If I say that I'm leaving # Just got to

hang on # Cos we're just stars # Trying to get back to where we're

from # One by one, we're gonna leave this planet # So don't look back #

Cos you know that it's all just time, # When you've got nothing on

your mind, # You've made it # Somewhere in the future # Talk about

forever # Take yourself a picture # Waiting in the rain for a postcard

from the sun # The one that never comes # The one that never shows #

The one that never shows # Is building something # From the heart

of the wreckage # In another zone # If I tell you we're leaving # Just

got to hang on # Cos we're just stars # Trying to get back to where

we're from # One by one, we're gonna leave this planet # So don't look

back # Cos you know that it's all just time, # When you've got nothing

on your mind, # You've made it # From the top of the empire # I think

we've got vertigo # Cos we're just stars # Trying to get back to where

we're from # One by one, we're gonna leave this planet # So don't look

back # Cos you know that it's all just time, # When you've got nothing

on your mind, # You've made it # Cos we're just stars # Trying to get

back to where we're from # One by one, we're gonna leave this planet #

So don't look back # Cos you know that it's all just time, # When

you've got nothing on your mind, # You've made it .