14/07/2014 The One Show

Go! OK, we are going. Now you have got our attention, this is the one

show with Matt Baker and Angellica Bell. That was our first look at

Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes. But whatever he says, don't go because

Caesar is in the building himself. It is Andy Serkis.

CHEERING Good to see you thought about

comeback. Are you all right? You must be in fantastic spirits today

because $73 million at the weekend. That's a lot of tickets, isn't it?

That's not bad. What was that phone call like? Thrilling, I'm excited.

I'm excited for the director. He's done a brilliant job on this film.

He did this and took the story and dropped it in exactly the right

place and I think he has made a great movie. It's absolutely

fantastic for that we saw you playing Caesar at the start of the

programme. Where did you get the inspiration for the voice? It is

deep and menacing. Your voice for Gollum was famously based on your

cat. Yeah, when you play a character like this, it's not about finding a

voice but you got to in the psychology of the character and the

emotions of the character. Gollum was based on the idea that his guilt

was trapped in his throat and physically, Mike Catt coughed up fur

balls. And what in voluntary action that sparked off this sound. -- my

cat. For Caesar, it is a different thing. This job, actually, was the

biggest stretch from Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, but Caesar is

not just the normal chimpanzee, he's had an enhanced intelligence drugs

in his veins only involves rapidly. We wanted him to sound organic and

real so when he does actually start talking, he doesn't sound like he is

to articulate. We know loads of people ask you to do the voice of

Gollum for their voice mail messages. We were wondering, if

Gollum rang Caesar's phone and went to phone, voice mail, what would it

sound like? Let's see what happens. Microphone

Caesar is not home! Hello, precious. It is Gollum here. We were

wondering, will you stop crawling up his bottom? Don't say that!

APPLAUSE Thank you.

More from him later. With maybe a teaser or two about as upcoming role

in the new Star Wars film. We will try. We have got a bit about gang

into night. The cast of West side story. They will do a performance

for us a little later on. There we go. Look at that. More from those

guys later. At one time or another, most of us will have had the odd

gripe with our neighbours. A noisy lawn mower, or at the barbecue which

carries on longer than necessary, both annoying. Imagine living next

door to a pile of rubbish which is higher than your house!

Summertime. There's nothing nicer than sitting in your garden with a

cup of tea. But not if you live here.

This rubbish is meant to be sorted and sent off, but people living here

say, instead, it's just been piling up. 81-year-old Alan has lived here

for 65 years. He ran a haulage firm and least the yard to waste

management company six years ago. He had no idea it would grow like this

and is devastated for his neighbours. It's my yard, it just

crept up on us. What can I do about it? I'm sorry, terribly sorry. What

are you sorry for? This. It must make you angry? Yes. It is legal,

licensed to store 5500 tonnes of nonhazardous waste like plastic,

wood and paper, but over the last four years, the residents have

watched it increased to estimated 18,000 tonnes. One of them is

71-year-old Alan, who lives for doors up from Mr Beazley. What are

the main issues? The smell on a bad day. The dust is never-ending. A

huge amount of flies. Rats running around. I have really noticed the

flies. We can't open the doors and windows for four years. We are

really living under punishing conditions here. And nobody seems to

do anything about it. And it's not just the local residents that

believe something should be done. Since December 2011, the London Fire

Brigade have attended 23 separate fires at the site, at a cost of

?650,000. Assume that the fire starts, you have dense clouds of

smoke which arise many, many metres into the sky. Incidence, closing

local roads, the school across the globe has been affected. Residents

have had to be evacuated. A real impact on the local community. Where

does this sit in terms of risk? The highest. The Environment Agency

ensures that waste companies are complying rules of their permits.

Two weeks ago, took the current operators of the site to the High

Court and the case was thrown out on a technicality. The Environment

Agency has now ordered the company to stop taking any more waste and

reduce the pile to the size permitted by this license. The firm

told us that the most recent enforcement notice preventing the

company from accepting waste, the only source of income, it cannot

afford to reduce the pile any further. It's not just one street

affected. I have come to meet two residents associations representing

people for miles around whose lives are dominated by the dump. We have

got the residents literally on its borders. We have got the skills

surrounding it, green belts. The road closures. Fire engines. People

can't get to work. It causes mayhem. We can't take our

grandchildren to the local park. It's so smelly. It's important to

remember, when they bring rubbish in, they are being paid to sorted

and take it away. If it was taken away as it should've been, it

wouldn't be as high as it is at the moment. Bob is the local MP. Who is

to blame for this? I think the people operating the site beyond the

terms of the licensed oblivion by at agency to bring the people to book.

For failing to come up to what their terms are. We were told they will be

court action and we don't know the reasons why it's failed. The

Environment Agency said it fully understands and shares the

frustration of local residents. And it will consider what action it

should take once the reason for the court 's decision have been

announced. As for the residents, he says years of anxiety had taken a

heavy toll. You have been quite ill? Yes, I've been on the sixth two

years. -- been on the sick for two years. I worked there to get me

down. Spare a thought for the people who live here who can't open their

windows thanks to the rubbish dump next door.

I'm sure people can not believe their eyes. That does actually look

like one of the scenes from Planet Of The Apes. Can you imagine living

next door to something like that? Not that size, no. We live next door

but one to die was passed away recently but was a hoarder, and his

house is under quarantine. It was just piling up. So, there's very

little you can do. Yeah, every single room is so cramped. It's

unbelievable. Getting back to the company involved, they say they have

got to bring in more rubbish in order to pay for the disposal of the

rubbish there. Effectively, the pile has got to get bigger before it gets

smaller for the pet sounds ludicrous. That is exactly what they

are saying, yes. It is an excuse they have used before, actually. And

I suppose there is logic in that they need an income stream to pay

for this to be dealt with but the residents are not buying it any

wonder that lost faith in the whole process. I spoke to Alan who you saw

in the film this morning, to get an update on what was going on, and he

said he could not believe that last Monday when more lorries containing

more waste turned up. The Environment Agency issued a section

36 the next day, so it's now illegal for a any haulage companies to bring

rubbish to the site for them it is all locked up for that there's no

more rubbish coming in, but who will remove it and pay for it? Is there

an answer to that? No, local MP at the House of Commons today were

talking about the situation and they did not drop of an answer. The

Environment Agency said it's not its responsibility and it is the land

owner and operator's 's responsibility to remove the

rubbish. Ultimately, there has been a suggestion the local council and

taxpayer could foot the bill. We just don't know. It is a big mess

and a big dump. How dangerous is it? One of the main problems has been

fire full supply think there has been 23 fires London Fire Brigade

have attended including one of the biggest ever in that vicinity and I

know the waste industry is working very hard on prevention of fires, so

that's one of the biggest problems for them when I was there, the

biggest thing I could not get away from work the flies. I have worked

all over the world next to sewers, but the there, I have never

experienced, and the smell, as well. Thanks, Lucy. Hopefully it

will get sorted. In Planet Of The Apes, Andy Mac boss character sees

is read by humans before he breaks free and becomes a leader of his own

kind but no real apes were used in the making of these movies but for

one chimp who had close contact with humans from an early age, life is

very different. Light refreshments? Thank you most kindly, madam. No

matter what life throws at you, cup of to make it all right. A very

British idea which inspired a series of popular TV commercials. The

adverts were much loved by the public. They help to make a tea

brand the most popular in the UK. My name is Brooke Bond. They also made

superstars of the chimpanzee actors with hundreds of thousands of people

flocking to see them. This ain't Calais, it is blinking Catford.

Watch your French. Have some more PG Tips, boys. They were trained in

Leicestershire and today, the last PG Tips chimp is still here. He can

be seen in many of the famous commercials dating back to the 70s

and 80s. And this is her today at the age of 43. Unfortunately, the

glamour of TV did come at a price. The problem is she thinks she is

human. She grew up in the media, really, so her formative years when

should learn a lot of normal chimpanzee behaviour before six

years old, similar to humans, she actually was spending so much time

with humans, she learned how to be a human, not proper chimpanzee

behaviour and communication and their communication is so different

to us, they use body posturing, subtle physical signals and, unless

she knows what they mean, she can't respond accordingly and it's a

gradual process for her to learn how to be a chimpanzee, but she is doing

well and she needs know how to use her behaviour is the right context.

One of the animals you are trying to train to be a chimpanzee

One of the animals you are trying to old. She is at an advanced age but

could live another ten or 15 years so it's important that we help and

supported to a chimpanzee again. Choppers is now under growing a

special training plan. -- undergoing a special training plan. Even her

keeper stays out at feeding time. Molly, who died in 2007, was her

original trainer and he never dream that her work was doing more harm

than good. They had a whale of a time. They were spoiled rotten. They

stayed in 5-star hotels and they stayed in bedrooms. Like the pop

stars of today. Did Molly get it wrong? She was not wrong. She was of

her time. Some of the work she was doing was world leading. Like most

people she got older and the world has changed since. I think we should

be careful not to criticise the past. I remember seeing the adverts

for PG Tips and not being impressed with the way the animals were being

used. They were certainly iconic at the time and you could say that

turned some people onto seeing chimpanzees as marvellous and

wonderful animals. Nowadays our concern would be with the use of

great apes in current Hollywood movies, which would be inexcusable

these days. Gyms are fabulous animals but they need to be chimps.

-- chimps are fabulous. That is how they should be enjoyed and

appreciated. I know that the chimpanzee adverts were loved but I

am really glad that lessons have been learned and are being learned,

and now the only monkey that you will see in a monkey is a wooden

one. Very different. Do you remember

those adverts? Absolutely. At the time nobody knew the harm that was

being caused. It is pretty sad seeing that. But times have moved

on. And there is recognition for apes. In fact a couple of weeks ago

we were doing a question and answer session and a climatologist that I

have got to know is session and a climatologist that I

eight rights in line with human rights because they are genetically

the same. -- ape rights. Earlier we talked about the lengths he went to

to get the voice for Caesar but what about the body language? If you are

going to pick up a teacup, how would you do it as Caesar? Where do you

start? It is interesting because the use of hands for Caesar really

changed from Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes to Dawn. It

changed from Rise Of The Planet Of loose wristed, using four

changed from Rise Of The Planet Of a middle finger, really. Was that

changed from Rise Of The Planet Of because of his age? Chimpanzees have

an extended middle finger and they pick things up with them. You

studied them a lot. Yes. There are lots of different stages to building

a character. With Caesar it is not just playing a chimp, but

understanding the character, and as I was saying earlier he is more

psychologically and emotionally advanced. The journey from a small

chimpanzee to the one that we see in Dawn, where he is upright, and has a

human physicality. I based it on a real chimpanzee called Oliver. That

was from the 1970s. He was the subject of a lot of DNA experiments

because people believed that he was possibly the progeny of man and

eight, the missing link. He had a particular physicality, very

upright. He could walk into a studio and sit down and pick up a glass. He

had quick and rather human and sit down and pick up a glass. He

expressions and there was a sense of this otherness, this other being,

trapped in the wrong body almost. He has a connection with humans and he

bonds to keep the peace. Let's have a quick look.

Apes do not want war! Do not, back. -- do not come back. The technology

has moved on so much since the first film. It is incredible. That

performance capture, it is the whole body involved. I have had a go and

it is incredibly difficult. What it is, basically, when you think about

it, is another bunch of cameras filming an actor. That is what you

have to think of it as. There we are in a scene from the movie, and it

allows you to really internalise the thoughts. Rather than having thick

layers of make-up on and a hairy suit, we can play the subtleties of

every single gesture, thought and emotion, in a very real way. Then it

is translated, as you can see. The animators have to take the

performances and emulate them completely so that the intention is

read on the ape's face. I can see the intense and tea. You have to

really perform. Yes, all the physical and emotional work. But you

cannot make it like pantomime or do too much movement. We are going to

talk about Star Wars Episode 7. Is this going to be shot? What can you

tell us about your role? Great. Is that it! Proof that you have been

there because we have a photo from the read-through and you are in the

bottom left of the screen. Yes, circled! Are you texting? I think I

am reading one of my children's school reports. Not really! I was

concentrating very hard on an amazing read-through. That was the

first gathering of everyone together and it was an amazing day. Did you

have to audition? I met with JJ Abrahams. It is no secret,

actually. He went to see Matt, who directed Dawn Of The Planet Of The

Apes, and he went to an early screening and it showed the entire

film but with us with our head-mounted cameras on before the

animation was put on top. He was very interested in that and we met

up afterwards. So you will be using that style of technology? I am not

saying anything about the character! I don't know if my character is live

action or anything. You will have to wait until 2015 to see Episode 7 but

Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes is released this Thursday, July the

17th. Tomorrow night a new drama will tell the tale of a group of

campaigning schoolgirls who secured the release of their friend who was

seized by immigration officials. The real Glasgow girls tell us their

story. # Not giving in.

# Not giving in. This is the tale of seven Glasgow

schoolgirls who took on the immigration authorities. Their

campaign to stop dawn raids and the detention of families seeking asylum

helped to change the law in Britain. An estimated 24,000 Roma

gypsies fled war-torn Kosovo during the 1998 conflict. Many sought

asylum in Britain. In 2005, this family was among them, but after

four years of living in Glasgow, their claim for asylum was rejected.

They were subjected to a dawn raid by immigration authorities who

planned to deport them. They rushed in and I could hear my mum crying. I

knew what the problem was straightaway and they came in at 4

o'clock and took us away. They drove at 100 mph to a detention centre in

London. We thought it was over and we had to go back with nothing to

look forward to. When six of her classmates found out what had

happened, they took action. They've started a petition for the girl they

saw as a friend. One of them filmed the scenes of joy when after three

weeks she and her family returned to Glasgow. The Home Office realised it

had acted improperly by ignoring a United Nations exemption stating it

was not safe for Roma families to be deported to Kosovo. Because of her

experience, the friends joined together to campaign to stop dawn

raids and detentions and they became known as the Glasgow Girls. If we

had social media, it would have been much easier and we might have had a

bigger impact. But when she was taken away it was 2005, a year

before Facebook. We had to do it the old-fashioned way. We started a

petition in the school, and then we contacted our local MSP and showed

them the petition and also the media. The campaign really caught

the imagination of the media. The winners of the public campaign award

are the Glasgow girls. And they won awards for their efforts. Thank you

again. Finally, in 2010, came the change the girls had struggled for,

the end of long-term detention for the children of failed asylum

seekers. We are ending this shameful practice that last year alone saw

over 1000 children, 1000 innocent children, in prison. I thought it

was good because politicians were listening to us and our campaigning

and changing things like with the detention centres but I think there

is still a lot ahead and more needs to be done. The One Show has

reunited all seven girls for the first time in seven years and

brought them back to their old school to get an exclusive look

behind-the-scenes at a new BBC drama based on their story. They're what

is it like suddenly to have all seven of you together after all

these years? What is it like? Very emotional and exciting. They are

making a BBC drama about you. There will be a new audience, people who

might not know about us or the issues asylum seekers face every

day. Hopefully it will be an insight for them and they will be inspired

to do something and take some action. The Glasgow girls made

politicians think again and transformed the lives of many

refugees. Thousands of families seeking asylum in Britain have

benefited from the new laws. Since 2010, no child has been locked up in

long-term detention. Dawn raids do still occur but they are by no means

as common. And you can see Glasgow Girls on BBC Three tomorrow night at

10pm. Are you a fan of West Side Story? I love it and I have seen

this very show. It is brilliant. You can tell us what happens in a

minute! Planet Of The Apes is out on Thursday. Jasper Carrott will be

here tomorrow and we are going to leave you with a cast of West Side

Story, which is touring the country at the moment. They are performing

America! # I like the island Manhattan.

# Smoke on your pipe and put that in!

# I like the shows of America. # Wall to wall flaws in America!

# When I will go back to San Juan. # When you will shut up

and get gone? # Everyone there will

give big cheer! # Everyone there will

have moved here!