14/10/2013 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the one show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

Tonight was my ghost -- Guest inadvertently made publishing

history when 40 pages of his autobiography were mistakenly

included in the new Bridget Jones book. He's still getting over the

shock of looking up with a toy boy and all those Brazilians. It is

certainly Jason! -- Sir David Jason. How wonderful to have you here. And

more news, one of your greatest ever TV shows, Open All Hours, is about

to grace our screens again with the Christmas special. So the story

goes. We are delighted. The BBC asked me if that was something like

to do and asset, yes. They said, have you any ideas? I always not,

what happens to Granville when Arkwright died? And so why mention

this, and they said, why do you not -- why not two Roy, the original

writer, and he said, that is so strange, because that has always

worried him. So Roy and I've got together. Has something been

penned? Not at the time. But we worked together and then he wrote

the script. And all I could say, it is exactly, it is like it has never

gone away. Except we will not have the governor, and you will just have

to put up with me has Granville. And Granville has a little assistant,

and cannot tell you why or how that happens because that will spoil the

plot. And the shop is still there, the roads are still there. In

Doncaster? In Doncaster. It is going to be a wonderful trip down memory

lane for all those people who loved the old-fashioned show. It is more

of the same. Great news. And you have not cast the assistant,

or the errand boy. So we thought we would help you out and ask whether

anybody at home thinks they would make a good Granville. So put on

your tank top if you do, put on a flat cap and brush your bicycle.

Sending your pictures. We cannot guarantee you will get the role, but

we will do our best! You cannot say fairer than that. We will see what

happens. Earlier today, the Welsh National

Coal Mining Memorial was unveiled on the site of the disused colliery in

Senghenydd in South Wales. The memorial pays tribute to the

thousands who have died in mining accidents in Wales. Joe Crowley

recalls the fateful day where a single blast shook an entire

community. In the early 20th century, Cole was

king. Mining it was dangerous. Working underground in the dust and

the darkness with the e-commerce and threat of a tunnel collapsing, it

could never be without risk. -- the constant threat. But one community

in South Wales knows the price of coal more than any other. In 1913,

something happens in the small town of Senghenydd that would cast a

permanent shadow over the town. I've come to a nearby museum where the

curator is taking me on a trip back in time. So this is how men would

have started the working day? This is the descent into the mine. The

cage would be jam-packed with men and boys as young as 14. And what

would they be wearing? Stout boots, and that is it. The other safety

gear is the flame safety lamp. And it was important that they had that

because it was a gassy pit. Here we are. How deep were the men working?

2000 foot deep. You are very deep underground. And the conditions?

Dusty. Even here, when we not cutting call. It was even worse at

Senghenydd. With coal dust, which is explosive, of course. They were

supposed to have watered the dust down. But they made a half hearted

attempt at it. At 810 PM, the sound that the women of Senghenydd had

feared echoed through the valleys. It was a huge blast. It had to be

across a spark. It said of the methane gas which blew up the dust.

And any fireball went through the pit. It was hell. -- and a fireball.

I want my father, I want my father. Went down the pits and felt a man,

and then went unconscious. How many of you came out of the pit alive?

18, 18 of us. 439 dead. Wives and mothers waited for weeks at the head

of the pit but in vain. 542 children were left without fathers. It was

the worst mining disaster in British history. When you think of the lives

lost, it would be noticeable in a big city but in a community of this

size, it must have been devastating. Hatay is only a small village. --

Senghenydd. Some descendants of the victims still live in the street.

From what have been told, there were five coffins in this particular

room. Five coffins? My great-grandfather and his sons and

two lodgers. How would your grandmother have coped with that?

Terribly. It is hard to comprehend. My grandmother had nine children.

And they all missed him. Sad times. At the disaster, there was an

inquest. Was anyone found to be at fault? The company was found to be

at fault but it was decided that the manager would be finds ?24 and the

company ?10, despite the fact that 500 lives were lost. It is

laughable. There was no thought of life. It was just the thought of

getting the callout. Make the boss some money. -- get the coal out. If

the company had fitted a fan capable of reversing the airflow in the pit,

as they were supposed to have done, the funeral procession might not

have been so long. The people of Hatay -- Senghenydd have never

forgotten the tragedy that stained their time with blood. The little --

little remains of the pit of these days. 100 years on, this concrete

slab covers the shaft that once took the miners 2000 feet below. It may

be sealed off, but the story of the men who died here lives on.

Such a tragic story. And this is the scene in Senghenydd earlier today.

The memorial pays tribute to the thousands who died in Welsh mines

over the years. It is a lovely memorial.

David, we were just saying there that you have Welsh heritage on your

mothers side. What a jerk other who arranged -- cousin -- was it your

cousin who arranged for you to go down a mine? We have this photo.

What a great picture. My cousin was a Jack the Lad. My mother came from

North Wales and the family was from south Wales. But my cousin, my

mother's brother's son, look at that, Jack the lad. You don't wear a

cap like that any more, do you? ! The story was, he arranged for us to

go down the pit, which we did. But the bit of the story was that what

we got -- when we got into the mine shaft, it was so black and you were

not allowed to take matches and lighters or anything down, but you

could put your hand on your eyeball, and it was so black you

could not see your hand. Because of that, when we came up, it seems to

take hours. And when we got out of it, John said, we will have to go

and see the wind, who winds you up and down, and when we got into where

he was, he was following about. And we said, what are you laughing at?

And he said, you were going up and down like you you! -- like a yo-yo.

He was so clever that he could take us up, slowly break, and then drops

down, and we did not know we were moving. But it was a great

experience. They had pit ponies down there. That is the way that life

was. It was cold and wet. As you would expect, you talk a lot about

your family appearance in your autobiography. And you speak a lot

about your dad as being the original showman. He was a fishmonger? Is

that where you got it from, do you think? I think I would probably have

to say that some of it would be genetic. Because there are certain

genes you pass on. And I would say that my father was not very funny or

gifted at home but when he was in his shop and went there many times,

he used to really enjoy the customers, and customers would come

from miles around to be served by him because he would take the

customers, and customers would come from miles around to be served by

him because he would take them idiot of them and they loved it. His

banter? His banter. Maybe a little bit has rubbed off. And you have had

a hard life to start with. You really tried all sorts of things.

And I've found it fascinating that you started and allocations

business. I've served and tradition as an elocution. And then when it

finally came to giving me my tools, and making me into an elocution,

which would upgrade my salary, they turned around and said was

redundant. -- and electricity. I am not sure whether it was because I

was an awful electricity and, or what, but redundancy is not a new

thing. My friend and I were made redundant and because there was no

work about, we were forced, in a way, to start a business on our own.

And we have your business card, a picture of it. We were wondering,

what does the J stand for? Many people would think it was Jason but

that is not the case. John. I'd guess John. David John White,

guaranteed, I said. Give her the money, Barney! I have some questions

about rewiring if you can hang about later. For you, I will do it for

nothing! You gave yourself five years to make it in the acting

world. And about two and a half years in, this is the gig that you

got. The utensils dipped into the food

and with a graceful sweep, the correct amount is carried to the

appropriate place. No. No. No. Do not adjust your TV set. It is very

Monty Python -esque. That is where Monty Python started. The three

lads, as they were there, fully grown men now, Michael Pailin, Terry

Jones and Eric idle. They came from the Cambridge Footlights. And they

got this contract with me to do a children's show called 'Do not

Adjust Your Set'. After we did a couple of series, they found that

the material they were presenting was getting cut and edited, and they

found that their material, why was it being cut, they wanted to know.

They said it was no suitable for children so they got frustrated, as

artists. And they said, look, either we get a late night shows we can use

our material, or you off. And the head of comedy at the time said, no,

you are the best children's show that we have had in years. We want

to keep you. So the lads said, sorry, we are going. And the rest is

history. And we will pick up that story in a moment. But before that,

what is more likely to get on your nerves? People who deliberately

dropped litter or cancel staff who snoop on the public?

A tough call. Tony lies the reports. -- Tony Livesey.

Most people are usually quite happy to be pictured in their local paper

but the people of Preston can be forgiven for turning the page with a

little trepidation. That is because it features a rogues gallery of

litter bugs, all tracked by CCTV. Could the man from TV who has

dropped his paper please pick it up? This is pressing cancel's litter

education officer. The voice of the loud-hailer and the woman who came

up with the newspaper shaming idea. How do people react to it? Do they

not feel it is intrusive, the fact you are sat in here watching them in

a private moment? We would move around constantly, we would not look

at one person. We're just keeping an eye in that particular area. If we

catch somebody littering, then we are able to do something about that.

So you publicly humiliate them. It is a bit embarrassing, but you have

to remember that dropping litter is against the law. They can be fined

for it. So usually, it is a fair cop. We are not really trying to

necessarily catch people and find them. This is about education. --

fine them. This is translated on the ground in the amount of litter we

pick up. There is a penalty of ?80 for anybody found guilty of

littering, or ?50 of paid within seven days. But since April, the

council has only issued 15 fines. This stinky pile of rubbish is the

total amount of litter collected just yesterday across Preston by the

city's 50 strong team. Each year, they picked up around 2200 tonnes of

litter off the street. Imagine this lot multiplied by 365. Tommy is

another member of the team, a litter supervisor. He is armed with all the

tools of the trade and a bit more besides. So you have got a secret

weapon? You look like a Dalek. And it records litter louts? It does.

People still deny it. I don't give them the opportunity. It is only

when you refuse to put it in the bin that I will issue a penalty. Are you

a litter spy? I do not watch people. I do my job. It is only if I catch

them. This is where some of the footage from the litter team ends

up, in the offices of the local paper. It takes still frames to

create its rogues' gallery and then invites readers to call the council

if they recognise anyone. Critics might say you are jumping to the

council's tune? The problem is costing the council ?2 million a

year to tackle. If we can help highlight the issue, that can only

be a good thing. You have caught five people through this. Are you

doing it for the greater good or just to sell papers? If it was just

to sell papers, it would be more of a name and shame will stop that is

not something we are doing, because we want to raise awareness. I must

admit that when we were there, the streets did not look too bad and we

did not see anyone dropping litter. So maybe the surveillance tactics

are working. It smacks of Big Brother and dirty tricks. But if

necessary, I agree with it. That would be so embarrassing. Imagine

everyone seeing that. If people don't have the sense to put it in a

bin, maybe they need to be taught to do it. After today, I can work a

litter picker like a pair of jobs dicks, and I have a sense of the

battle to keep rubbish off these streets. The wall of shame in the

local paper is not everybody's cup of tea, but most people I spoke to

thought it was a price worth paying. In Preston, at least, litter does

seem to be a. # I always feel like somebody's watching me.

That is going to get people talking, but it is sad that it has come to

this. Did you know that more people drop litter than don't? 62% of

people drop litter. Preston differentiate between those who

deliberately drop it on those who accidentally drop it. Sometimes

things drop out of your pocket, but they target those who throw it. If

it drops out of your pocket accidentally, perhaps you don't know

it has gone. But why is it that you can take a packet of cigarettes or

sweets, and you nurture it and care for it and you put it carefully back

in your pocket, but when it comes empty, you throw it away? What is

the difference? Going back to that film, does that make arrest in the

most aggressive council? They are not the only once. Darlington have

fined 600 people after naming and shaming. Austin in Lincolnshire have

been doing it on and off since 2004 -- Boston in Lincolnshire. They have

had a 50% success rate, so much so that last summer, they turned their

attention to dog poo. Don't look at me! They found 40 piles in a local

park, so they spray-painted around it, and there has a mode that back

been a marked decrease. In the US, one judge has made a name for

herself publicly humiliating people who have done wrong. Her name is

judge Pinkey Carr. She felt there was a lack of Amores among people.

For example, one bus driver, she made her band in the street with a

sign saying "Only an idiot drives on the sidewalk to avoid a school bus".

In another case, a guy was made to stand with a sign saying, I

apologise to all police officers for being an idiot, calling 911 and

threatening to kill you. There are other ways of looking at this as

well? Weak the theory is that we all want to conform, we just need a push

in the right direction. The government have a behavioural

insight team. They call it a node unit. Loft insulation was heavily

subsidised and people were not taking it up, so this team came up

with the idea of saying that the team who installed loft insulation

would clear your attic first, and then people took it up. Students in

Cardiff painted bin feet heading to the bins, and litter dropping in the

bin went up. Now, as we have said, Open All Hours is returning for a

one-off business special, so last week, we asked One Show viewers who

run family businesses like Arkwright's to tell us their

stories. I'm Dave, and this is my son Andrew. The shop was started in

1934 by my father and his brother-in-law. I have been here 53

years. Andrew joined in 1992. We came here in January 1972. I made it

my home will stop the day I got this sweet shop 20 years ago, I was so

excited that I had got my own sweet shop. It meant everything. We were

like kids in a sweet shop! It is good working with your family.

Sometimes we have disagreements about parts of the business.

Normally, a consensus comes about and I get my way. He tries to stay

traditional. If you tried to modernise anything, shall we have a

website, stuck in the dark ages. I feel guilty, because if I am shocked

at night or on a Sunday and I hear a car stopped on the gravel, I think,

that is a customer I have lost. 's opening hours are bone of

contention. She sometimes opens at six in the morning. I understand her

guilty conscience. The customers and the shop are all a big family. My

husband, even on his funeral day, I would not shut. He died of cancer.

My friend looked after the shop because if I think a shop is open,

it should be open all the time. It is such a special shop. We have a

passion for it. It is our interest, and the love of the people we deal

with. 18 customer comes in, I say, have you tried everything? Someone

has got to do it. The local children are used to how we serve the sweets.

They are always disappointed when they go away on holiday. One child

came back and said, I am so glad to be back. She said, we had to go to a

supermarket to buy our sweets, and we couldn't pick and choose! If you

try and change anything, he is becoming like Arkwright, tight and

mean. Ilott of people look at the ceiling and think it could do with a

coat of paint. I still think that is our era. Like I say, stuck in the

dark ages. Wonderful. Every night after work, he calls into an

Ironmonger's. Earlier, we asked for potential sidekicks for your new

series. Cathy thinks her dog Baxter has what it takes. That could be

interesting. But not practical. This is a good one. Perfect. Johnny has

already got the outfit. And he has got the backdrop as well. This is

the best one. I want him in my shop. Little five-month-old Lucas, from

Rotherham. He would BAA to the shop. So how did you get the role of

Granville? Well, through Humphrey Barclay, who found me at the end of

the peering Bournemouth, he then went off later on to direct Ronnie

Barker in a series called Hark At Barker. And there was a series of

sketches. Ronnie said that in this particular sketch, he wanted

somebody that could come in, and Ronnie's Richter was eating bananas

and throwing a banana skin down, and he wanted somebody who could come in

and as he went out, do a pratfall. I had to do about half a dozen

pratfalls. Also, I got on well with one knee. -- with Ronnie. He then

did another series where he played Lord Russell, and he wanted somebody

to lay the 100-year-old gardener. So because I had worked with Ronnie in

that sketch, he said, what about that QWERTY person who falls over a

lot? So they asked me on and I said yeah, because I wanted to work with

Ronnie. In your book, you depict the relationship between you

beautifully. And he gave you a job on the two Ronnies, but we didn't

see you on screen, because you were the Phantom raspberry blower.

Unbelievable. And by your own reckoning, you are one of the

world's best blowers of raspberries. There aren't many of us left. But

can you recognise your own raspberries from other raspberries?

Here is raspberry one. RASPBERRY BLOWS. . And the second

one. RASPBERRY BLOWS. On the third

raspberry. I would say number two. You are right. This is how it looked

on the telly. RASPBERRY BLOWS.

What was that? ! And Ronnie used to produce raspberries as well. He

wanted raspberries blown to the 1812 overture or for the end. And I said,

I can't do that. He said, yes you can. You get in the booth, we will

both have the cans on, let them have the 1812 overture in one ear, and I

will conduct you. So outside the box, Ronnie is going...

RASPBERRY BLOWS. . So I was watching Ronnie, and he was giving it

everything like Sir Malcolm Sargent. It is all in the book, and you

really get the sense... There are so many people bringing out his books,

and you're one is called Our My Life, but it really was. Lovely to

see you again. Tomorrow night, we will be joined by Gloria Estefan. Is

she bringing the Miami Sound Machine? You will have to wait and

see. Good night.